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Today, we are joined with our analyst Maurice Claret.
Maurice, how you doing today?
Mo, what's going on, baby?
What shirt is that?
What's up?
What shirt is that?
We have to tell brothers to put their glasses back on.
Put your glasses on.
Glasses back on.
Oh my goodness.
Okay, Mo.
Noted.
And then before we get started,
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You know what actually I have a cowboy hat line coming soon
this is the job that you needed to make today because
Because you're a Cowboys fan
Or just because no cuz I'm a Maverick, you know,
I'm a different kind of guy.
Might as well have a Cowboy hat line, you know?
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Okay, noted.
Well, let's get started.
So Tennessee fans for all sports will be charged
a 10% talent fee on tickets to help pay athletes
as part of the new revenue sharing
plan set to begin in 2025. In addition to the fee, they will add an average increase
of 4.5% on all football tickets. Maurice, do you think this is a good decision?
I think it is a phenomenal decision stat, phenomenal, not good, phenomenal.
And this is time that these players participate in the revenue that they help to generate
for everybody else.
And so I'm pretty sure these fans, when they get up and go to these games and they cheer
for these players, and Tennessee looks very promising right now moving forward to have
a good program.
So this is a great time to do it.
And their stadium, I think it's called Rocky top and Rocky top. I don't think that they'll have any, um, resistance with this.
I don't think they'll have any fight or pushback.
Yeah.
Yeah, we all look great.
Pro see, but I, you know, keep going.
Yeah, but you have to remember that this is, if you remember last year, the
governor for Tennessee and the governor for Virginia, these are the people
advocating for their schools to be able to pay student athletes.
So this doesn't surprise me when you have the governor and you have legislators advocating
to pay these kids, they're doing now, or just taking steps now to actually make this thing
real.
So, a shout out to everybody down there in Tennessee.
Hopefully you'll have other people follow, but I was excited when I had a chance to see
it and it just lets you know that we're moving in the right direction with student athletes.
I actually like this idea of, you know, an extra $10.
I wouldn't have been mad at 20, you know, but we'll start.
I meant 10%.
I wouldn't have been mad at 20%.
But, you know, especially if it's going to the players,
you know?
Yeah.
Add 20, if you can do 10, do 20.
Yeah.
I mean, it's saying all sports.
So it's giving every athlete is gonna get that payment,
which I think they deserve it.
Yeah, that's why I said 20, you know?
If it's gonna be football, basketball, volleyball, lacrosse,
you know, because when you divide it up,
it's really not that much money.
So 20% wouldn't have been bad.
You know, if you're looking at,
what, a $20 ticket, what's 2 2% I mean, what's 20%?
10% of 20 is 2.
No, right. So you're looking at $24. That's not that bad.
Yeah. Dope concept.
Yeah. No, it's definitely worth it. These athletes deserve it. So.
Yeah, I appreciate them even trying, even trying to make an attempt to let them know
that they appreciate the players
But you know, it's like a girl that buy me a sweater and you know when I was coming up and she said
It's a thought that count. I told her will take more time to think
Need a little bit more time
That's not where I thought you were going with that. She needs more time.
Give her more time to think.
So what happens to the NIL money though?
Is that the same or is that different Mo?
No, so you're dealing with three and start next year you'll be dealing with three buckets
of money.
This is probably a new bucket, but you have, they'll
be doing revenue sharing. And I think it's roughly like 25 to 26 million that each school
can distribute to the student athletes. The mass majority of that money is going to go
to football players though, just being honest with you or whatever sport is dominated at
that school. The NIL will still exist, but it's less prevalent.
What they were complaining about was that your larger schools who have these larger
collectives, they were basically bullying the smaller schools.
That's where the TV revenue sharing came in at.
Then now you have this bucket of money being generated from them basically increasing ticket
sales.
They're just increasing that bucket to give to student athletes.
So it's heading in the right direction. I say this, and I say this with all sincerity. basically increasing ticket sales, they're just increasing that bucket to give to student athletes.
And so it's heading in the right direction.
And I say this, and I say this in all sincerity, if you have a kid who's a junior high school
kid and you can prepare him to go to college now, your kid can now make life changing money
going into college.
And it's only going to progress.
The pool of money is only going to get bigger.
We've seen in the NFL what they've done with TV contracts. And so they're going to do the same thing
with college because you have more teams and you have the viewership is segmented to conferences.
You have the Big Ten Network and SEC Network and so on and so forth. So if you have a kid
and they're serious about sports, man, you actually have more leverage now or more incentive to basically take sports seriously.
A kid can have a chance to make life change of money.
You don't really have to go to the pros and make hundreds of thousands of
millions of dollars now.
That's pretty interesting, Mo, but I don't like the way you keep saying
they're headed in the right direction.
Cause headed in the right direction doesn't scream to me that is
actually the right amount yet, you know, and that's, that's what I'm picking up
from it.
Can you explain further what you mean by headed in the right direction and how do
you know we're there yet?
When, when do we arrive there?
Oh, that's a, that's a good question.
Well, the, the meaning I'm saying is that when you start at zero and you start to give somebody
something, you think that you're giving them everything when you've actually, you're the
person establishing the market value for these kids, right?
And so there's no baseline with any of these kids to just like determine market value,
right?
That's the clean way of saying it. So they're giving them something, but the amount of money generated. So let me just
use Ohio State for an example. They generate for a football program about a hundred million
dollars in about four months, right? And so there's not a system in place right now that
says there's no collective bargaining or there's no, there's no, what do you call it?
There's no union to say, Hey, these players are worth 40% or 50% or 60% of this revenue
and you're distributing it right now.
Everybody's just like, you know, throwing their finger in the air and saying, okay,
whatever the wind blows, we'll go that way and we'll give these kids something.
But it seems like a lot when you started with nothing, you know what I'm saying?
Last year I was saying like, it's very slavish when you get,
when you don't give somebody anything and then you start to give them something,
you believe that the something that you give them is fair.
When that actually isn't fair,
fair is your market value towards which you're generating your market value
towards which you're helping to produce in the overall picture.
And so they started by giving them something they've started by giving them money, but
they've not gotten to the place where there's like a metric or a system in place to say,
hey, this is why we're paying what we're paying.
Like even when they came and gave the $27 million for next year, $26 million, that's
just an arbitrary number.
There was like no thought into it because everybody doesn't generate the same amount
of money.
They just say, let's just break this up.
You know what I'm saying?
And so that's why I said they're heading in the right direction.
And if you had better representation that was advocating for the players, people who
are real smart, who've done this before, I think that you will eventually get to what
you see at the professional level and then also in every sport, be an NBA and NBA NFL.
Nah, Mo, the more, the more and more I hear this, the more I don't like this.
I'm going to tell you the truth.
Cause I'm, I'm the more and more I'm hearing this, I'm doing math in my head.
And I'm thinking about, as this number is, is coming, coming to, to to a, to a fruition, it's not going to be
enough.
It's definitely not going to be enough, especially when you think about all the
players on a football team and how they're going to allocate that money.
10% will not be enough.
10% definitely will not be enough.
And, and another reason why I don't like it.
And the more I hear it is because it's almost like somebody been robbing you
and they make a new way to pay you why they already keeping the other money.
But they said, we're going to figure out a way to pay you.
We're going to pay you from the recession stand,
but I'm bringing people through the doors.
You know what I'm saying?
You can't pay me from, from 10% on M and M's cause I'm bringing people through the
door.
So it's like they're keeping the door and creating a new way to pay you from a,
why they still keep what they're keeping.
Is that making sense?
No, it don't.
It doesn't.
That's what, so that's what they were arguing with NIL.
So last year, remember he talking to you.
They said, oh, we're going to treat these players fair.
And they said, let's pay them from name, image and likeness.
And they said, well, you're not actually paying them.
You're just allowing other people to pay them.
So you're not giving anything out of your pocket.
You're letting these outside parties and outside entities, and then you're still being like the filtering system. And now once the
legislation came out to say, Hey, you have to, uh, now that they've lost the lawsuit, they owe like
$4.4 billion to all student athletes, like 2017 up to now, once they lost that, they had to start
sharing revenue. And that's why I understand that's why they're in a situation now, but you're exactly correct.
You gave a great analogy with it.
They're paying you off of something that they still want to pay you off of, like this small
piece of this $10 or 10%, whatever it was that they said, but it's still not fair.
And until you have somebody to say, okay, you know, this, this wide receiver, this quarterback,
his value towards this overall pool of money is X, just like they do in an NBA and just
like they do with any other professional league, it's never going to be fair.
But I just get happy just because I'm down at Ohio State.
I see these kids all the time.
And so they have more than what they've had before.
So it's moving in the right direction, which at least allows you to have the conversation.
And that's what I get excited about, but it's definitely not there yet.
So the other problem that I have with it is, is when you start, if you start making a decent
amount of money, and I think you talked about this in like episodes last season, who's going
to train these kids to, to develop them and spend their money the correct way?
Are they gonna continue to get robbed?
Are they gonna have the counselor to have some investment?
And they just get that money right back?
I don't think you need counseling for 10%, you know?
And the other part.
There won't be enough money to need counseling.
No, but what I'm saying is when they do make money,
but, and the other part is, so what makes me wanna go to,
I wanna go to Ohio State now I want to go to Michigan because I know they got a
hundred thousand people in the stands right I don't want to go to Harvey Mudd
no more they ain't nobody in the stands and if you add 10% some people the
sales may go down so keeping their hundred percent the bigger schools are
gonna get Texas the bigger schools are gonna get all the top recruits because they're going to be like,
they're going to make more money there.
What incentive does a kid have to go to San Jose State now when there's only 10,000 people
in the stands?
When you can go to Michigan and there's 102,000 at 2% of those sales and whatever else they're
doing, right?
So they're going to make some money.
So Larry.
Yeah.
No, no, Larry. So everybody will, will change. Let me slow down. Every team
next year will basically participate in revenue distributed. The other thing that we're talking
about, they're doing that in addition to raise more money to pay more players. So everybody's
going to get a chance to participate with TV revenue from their school. They'll distribute it. So it doesn't matter where you go. Okay.
In addition to that, since, since states allow schools to basically pay players, now these,
just like you have the NIL is one bucket over here who are paying people. Now the schools
can give you deals themselves. So they're raising money for themselves outside of the
collective. So you have the collectors who can give you the NIL money. You have the schools who can
give you sponsorship deals. And then you have the schools who can give you revenue share,
if that makes sense.
I guess.
So the money talk doesn't stop here because this next part might be a step in the right
direction. So Georgia governor signs a law allowing schools to pay players directly.
It will prohibit the NCAA or athletic conferences
from punishing any university or college in Georgia
for offering compensation or compensating
an intercollegiate student athlete
for the use of such student athletes and IELTS.
So after hearing that,
how does this impact college football, Maurice?
Oh, it impacts it tremendously.
It just allows, so this is is when Mase talks about our things headed in the right direction,
when you start to get legislators, when you start to get people who can push and bully
and compete against the NCAA, effectively you start to have stuff like this.
And this doesn't surprise me that you have this coming out
of conservative states and with these people
who are progressive and wanting to get people,
put money into the economy, put money in people's pockets,
all this stuff is just heading down the right track,
in my opinion, for young kids who are playing football.
So I would be excited if I was in Georgia.
I would love that.
If I play sports in Georgia,
it's a huge state for football in general.
It's a it's a rich state with with talent in general.
I would be happy because now I can get paid.
What do you think, Stette?
About them directly paying players, I also think that this is great.
I think any situation where.
Student athletes can get paid directly and make their own money after
all the time that they weren't allowed to do that is a great decision.
Yeah, they just got to pay them for real though.
It's this idea that, hey, we're giving you something, but something is not what I'm here
for.
I'm here to really get paid.
You know what I'm saying? We're headed in the right direction. I'm here to really get paid. You know what I'm saying?
We're headed in the right direction.
I'm only here for one year.
So I need you to get this right while I'm here.
I'm not here for the next class.
I'm not here for the, the upperclassmen. I'm here for my class.
And in the class that I'm in, I need a classy check for real.
Welcome cam.
How you feeling?
Long morning man.
Talking about the governor allowing students to get paid, but they're not,
nobody really know what they're getting paid, but they say But most saying we're moving in the right direction.
I need us to be in the right direction, boss.
Sorry, I ran here.
You're all good.
You can get my head piece and shit.
You can circle back to it if you want, it's okay.
Now I wanted to talk about,
I liked all these topics that we had today.
I swear I'm a little mad that I'm running a little late.
Pardon me.
Okay, so let's do this.
Hold on, I got something to say about this.
Okay.
Get my earphone.
Listen, y'all wanna figure shit out now.
But I don't know what May said or what Mo said,
but y'all trying to figure shit out now.
Well, y'all could have been figuring shit out.
Y'all been getting billions and billions of dollars
for years.
Now niggas talking about,
oh I see niggas like Dion or whoever other school
paying niggas.
Now y'all figured that way out to pay niggas.
Oh, it's my, what a co-winky thing.
Y'all just figured out how to pay niggas. Come on, y'all could have been paying niggas. Or it's my, with a co-winky thing, y'all just figured out how to pay niggas.
Come on, y'all could have been paying niggas.
Once you seen niggas start getting money,
now the school can pay niggas.
Cut this shit out, man.
Matter of fact, I wanna come back to this.
Let me get my shit together.
But y'all been could have been paying niggas.
This is not something new.
Y'all could have been paying niggas for a long time.
I'm gonna come back to this.
No, we will.
Okay, so moving along,
Isaiah Pacheco is injured and expected
to miss a couple weeks.
So the Chiefs brought in running back Kareem Hunt
to the practice squad.
This is six years after he was released from the Chiefs
after a video altercation with a woman.
What do you guys think of the decision to bring him back? And then Isaiah
Pacheco's injury, Maurice. Well, shout out Kareem Hunt is my man. He's Ohio, born and raised,
and I've been knowing Kareem since he's been in college. And so I'm excited that he's getting a
second chance back out there in Kansas City. If everybody remembers, he had a phenomenal start to
his career from being in that system.
Obviously, he ran into a few bumps in the road and he had to come back out here to Cleveland
to restart his life, but he did a great justice and a great duty when he was here with Cleveland,
but he couldn't get on the field in front of Nick Chubb because Nick Chubb was being
Nick Chubb.
But I'm happy that the Chiefs brought him back.
I'm happy that they allow him to redeem himself.
And so when you have these coaches who see an athlete get into some trouble or run into
a situation and they allow him to redeem himself and come back out to the team, maybe moving
forward, if there's some other guys who get in trouble and they're a little hesitant about
bringing guys back in, maybe this may be an example of like, Hey, you know, a guy can redeem himself.
Yeah.
I think, I think is a great idea, especially because not only did he have a
good first year, it seemed like he was off to a great second year before, before
that tape was released.
And, um, when you, when you add him to the Kansas City team,
he's gonna be the piece that is definitely needed
because it seemed like we're losing people left and right.
So definitely.
We.
We is crazy.
We is wild.
We.
Can I interrupt you? No,'re right, no, I just, you're right, you're right.
My bad.
Yeah, like I said, we.
My bad, bro, my bad.
Yeah, man, where was I, man?
Where were we, you know?
Go ahead, Ken, go ahead.
My bad, you said you was losing people left and right.
Yeah, we losing people left and right.
We are losing people left and right.
And I think, you know, even the time
that he's been away, it gives time for even the society and the community to heal from what they
encounter with them. Yeah, Kareem Hunt, he's a dog. Yeah. Dog. Toledo, Ohio. You know, I was up in
Toledo for a little while too. Shout out to them niggas up there in Toledo, right by Detroit.
I was up in Toledo for a little while too. Shout out to them niggas up there in Toledo,
right by Detroit.
Led the NFL in Russian, Pro Bowl his first year, 2017.
With Pacheco gone, I think this is a great fit.
Sad to see Pacheco go, I'm a real Pacheco fan,
to be totally honest with you.
And yeah, I think it's a great fit.
He did really well with the Browns as
well. I just was wondering why he can't be consistent because even with the charges he
had, they never stuck. He didn't get prosecuted, indicted, whatever it is. I don't want to
bring it up, especially if he wasn't charged with it. But I think he's great. He's not
even 30 years old. I know running backs have a short life in NFL, but I think he's a real dog.
He'll feel good with the Kansas City Chiefs again.
What we them.
Okay, now we got to discuss the Dolphins.
So Tua is officially on injury reserve after suffering a concussion during their game versus
the Bills.
He will miss at least four games.
We don't even know what that number is going to go up to. So the Dolphins decided to sign Tyler Huntley off the Ravens
practice squad. So how much does this affect the Dolphins? And do you think this is the right
decision for two of Maurice? Well, it definitely affects their entire franchise. Just moving
forward. You know, you have to imagine he probably took all of the reps in minicamp through OTAs and then
they probably built everything, the team and everything around him.
I'm pretty sure that they knew he had concussion issues.
Obviously it's been noted, but you probably think something like this isn't going to come
up, but you don't go into the season to have all of these pieces and build this team and then expect to get a guy off the Ravens practice
list.
You know, just here's what it is.
But to say something personal about his personal health, I've heard a ton of people who've
had concussions and who've given their opinion on other platforms, and all of these people
say the same thing, that my man should just call it quits and move on with life.
Because when they had concussion issues, the welfare of their life is more important than
the actual game.
And so I hope that he takes the time to kind of think about it.
And I don't know the dude personally, but you wouldn't want nobody walking around crazy,
excuse me, crazy, concussed and their faculties are all messed up just because they wanted to play a game of football.
Um, can you give us more, more of an example about what you mean of why they
say he should not, um, cancel plan?
Yeah, well, it was one guy in particular, and I think the guy's name is Nate
Burlison, I think, I don't know what network he talks on, but he said he played
with a guy in Detroit and he was playing with a dude in Detroit, the guy's name is Nate Burlison. I think, I don't know what network he talks on, but he said he played with a guy in Detroit.
And when he was playing with a dude in Detroit, the guy has so many concussions.
He was like a first or second round pick, whoever it was.
And the guy was talking about how he had issues of getting concussions.
And one of the most traumatic things that he went through was that.
And he said, when he came back, he said the hardest thing was that it wasn't
a leg or arm or a part of his body that was basically hurting, but his spirit felt like
he can play. But the quality of his life and just the way he felt or him maybe feeling
like he died or he was dead or couldn't remember things. He just said, just like him hanging
the cleats up and moving on with life is what like, what was it? Was the best decision for
him looking back, even though he wanted to play a
whole lot.
And then you would just hear other players on different platforms talk about
having concussions and just never being the same and always thinking about
having concussions.
And it really wasn't them.
It was the amount of, um, like the impact that had on family members.
When they kept on seeing these guys get knocked out or just thinking that more
was going to come from it.
So hopefully that answered it, but that's who I was referring to.
So is it, is it like constant migraines?
Is it constant, like just memory loss, short memory, long memory, you know, like
what explain the, can you explain that a little bit?
No, I think, I think it's more just the, the being knocked out part.
Even when Mike was on earlier this week, I remember when he got knocked down. I remember watching that
game when I was a kid and I remember he was laid out on the field. I think like
that piece right there is what scares family members. And when guys get like, I
give you a prime example, I was running the football against Northwestern and a guy
hit me right before halftime and he knocked the vision out of me. I remember
getting up and I remember having to grab my player's
jersey and walk back to the huddle.
And I was like, yo, don't give me the ball anymore because like I can't see straight.
Right.
And I was like, man, help me to the locker room.
I like that piece of it.
Right.
And I remember going to the locker room and having to get smell assaults and
get myself back together.
I can't only imagine what a dude not being able to get up off the
field and blacken out.
Like I can't, I just can't imagine how that would make like your mother or imagine what a dude not being able to get up off the field and blacken out.
Like I can't, I just can't imagine how that would make like your mother or your uncle, your father or whoever loves you feels.
And so I think like when they see family members and how they react in, in just
the pain that it causes them, I think that some dudes really just like, you know,
but it's not worth it.
And then you also have to go into effect that some of these dudes have insurance
checks, right?
So they get these loins of London policies. And so, you know,
somebody does just say, Hey, you know, to a, he may say, Hey,
I may walk away with a hundred million dollars or $50 million or
$75 million. And that's enough to start my life.
So there's other contributing factors, but, you know,
hopefully that answered it.
Yeah. And that's good. Cause that mean he does have an out where he can be safe
and he, and he can, you
know, have a great future financially for his family, because every time we, we've
discussed this issue, it seemed like money came up.
So if he can find a valuable way that he could be just as lucrative and, and
successful to take care of his family, then that becomes a great option.
And sometimes it's better to have that option.
So I think that's a great, um, situation for him.
Now let's see when he comes back, I would definitely put that insurance policy in
motion, but I would also, uh, when I look at the person that they put in for him,
this is going to destroy the hopes of Miami.
Miami is not going to do as well as they, they should for the next couple of
weeks.
And I don't think anyone is expecting them to, no matter where they got this guy
from, he might do well, but it ain't going to be well enough.
Not, not for who they got coming up.
Oh, it doesn't shock me that he's on the injured reserve.
Miami wants to win.
And pardon me, Miami wants to win.
And if they have a chance to bring to a back,
they're gonna bring them back.
This is the football business.
It is what it is.
No disrespect, and I agree with everything
May said, me personally, but I'm just telling you
as a football player mindset that this is what they
wanna do.
Will Smith had a movie called Concussion,
one of his best, out of all the movies Will Smith
have done, whether it's Ali or all the Bad Boys series
or anything else, this is one of the best movies I've ever seen Will Smith in,
to be totally honest with you. And it was one of his lowest box scoring movies because people
didn't want to accept the facts. I had friends actually who have football kids in Florida and
Miami and they say, I'm not taking my son to see that shit. We're not going to destroy the dreams and the hopes of that shit. Nah, we not going to throw shit
off track. And the movie is based upon, I think, don't get me wrong, Dr. Burnett, when
he studied, Junior Sayal, God bless the dead. And I can't think of, I think Emerson, they
both committed suicide from CTE. So Will Smith is playing this doctor
that actually done study on CTE
and people commit suicide and niggas are like,
sound good.
No, he's not getting nominated for it.
I mean, no, we're not going to see it.
My son is seven years old and this is our way out camp.
I've seen, I actually seen one of my friends
beat his eight-year-old kid because he was busting ass in practice and his first game he played he was scared and stunk
it up and I was like yo what are you doing and he said Kim this is our way
out please mind your business I gotta mind my business when it comes to
pairing it. This deadass I'm not gonna say his name.
He know when he see this, he gonna know I'm talking about.
And I said, yo bro, I swear to God,
Miami, he know I'm talking about too.
All our niggas know.
I said, yo bro, you don't do that.
He said, Cam, please don't tell me what to do.
This is our way out.
You made it out.
Please let us do what we gotta do.
And later on, that same night, we went to the club
and his wife was there and she was there.
And I said, yo, you cool with him hitting y'all son?
He said, she said, yeah, nigga embarrassed us.
He ain't gonna go out there and do that.
He up there in practice showing off,
doing everything else, jumping around.
Then first day he get hit and he don't wanna go.
And he don't wanna do nothing else.
Yeah, I'm cool with it.
And then I'm just looking like this.
Seriously?
And her brother was there.
And I say, yo, I tried to sneak off
and have a private conversation with him.
And I say, hey, yo, I said, you cool with what they doing?
He said, yeah, Cam, I am.
I said, I just want to grab my bottles and went about my business and said,
fuck it. So when you got these players, this now a grown man,
and this is all they've been taught to do, not saying that they don't want other aspirations.
This is what they were taught to do,
and this is what they planned on doing their whole career.
So I'm just giving you a little insight
of a personal situation that I knew about
and actually seen with my own two eyes,
along with the Will Smith stat,
because that's when, look, Will Smith,
he had an African accent in the movie.
He was saying doctor terminologies.
A lot of people don't know how hard it is
for us to play somebody else.
Not for me, but I'm just saying like,
if you really doing the study and have to play somebody,
like Will Smith did an exceptional job playing Ali.
Nobody wanted to see the shit.
That's when Jaden started beefing with the Academy Award.
Jaden, his wife, told him,
oh, y'all nominating them, and Chris Rock,
you should bend, and all that shit stemmed from that movie
because niggas is like, you will not put this
in our kids' minds and tell them
this is their dream could be fucked up
because of their brain.
Yeah, and I agree.
I agree with the parents,
not that they should beat the kids,
but I agree with them being on the same page.
That was really cool for the mom to say,
oh yeah, I agree.
Yeah, when they see it, they're gonna know,
I ain't gonna say their name.
They're probably gonna tell you,
Ma, you should have said our name.
I ain't get permission, so I'm not gonna say the name.
Well, as far as Tua, I'm just hoping he has a nice recovery.
I think his health is very important.
And as far as them, signing Tyler Huntley, he was a probable quarterback.
I think it's a great decision.
I think we're seeing this season.
It's literally the year of the backups, because I think a lot of backup
quarterbacks have gotten chances that they would not have gotten before.
So maybe for the Dolphins, this might be a good thing.
They will be starting Skyler Thompson is what they said.
And he did have a playoff start.
So we'll see how that works in their system.
And if not, they have a backup who should be good enough to take the spot.
Okay.
So there is a video caught of Ravens fans bickering at Marlon Humphrey after
their loss to the 49ers saying you give more effort to your podcast than you do
on the field.
What do you guys think of fans making those comments
and is there anything to that?
Maurice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, we just talked about this last week, man.
And the dude who was heckling, he got to be a fan of the show.
But that was the first thing that he said when he seen the dude walking out the
tunnel. He basically said, man, you put more effort into your podcast.
And I talked about it last week, man.
I think people are going to use like this other platform that these guys have
to basically criticize it becomes part of it.
But I actually, him saying that actually made me go to the dude's page and look at his podcast
and the dude, he has a decent page and I like some of the content that he had on there.
So like I said, I'm a fan of it because it gives you more exposure, gives you the ability
to connect with fans and maybe generate some revenue or give it a chance for people to
like your personality.
But I will say this as well.
Keep the main thing, the main thing.
And so you got to shore up the main thing and not feel like that this
other thing is distracting you.
Oh man.
This is one of those things.
Nigga, you ain't Mason cam stick to the first thing you would do on me.
That's all I'm gonna say.
It's all on you.
So why is that exactly so?
They was hacking on them.
Cause what the, so just so I'm clear,
cause I didn't know the Ravens had a podcast.
Yeah, well, no, it was, it was one of the players.
And so after they lost the game, they were just like,
you give more effort to your podcast than you do
on the field yelling at him, Ravens fans. Right. Right so the Raven fans were yelling at a Ravens player. Yes. What I'm saying
is what Raven players have podcasts. Well Marlon Humphrey has one. So Marlon Humphrey has a podcast?
Yeah. I don't know I didn't no disrespect I didn't't know Marlon Humphries had a podcast and I'm not being funny when I say that so
Listen, I know what it was going on down there in Baltimore. Look, it's a gritty city, man
and they want results and
Coming off the season that you guys had last year. Oh and to start was not in this in the
What the fans were expecting.
And now if Niggas is doing podcasts like May said, or no, not just like May said,
obviously he has a podcast and Mo is letting us know and Stata is informing me.
I would take off to y'all start winning.
Like you can't do it because Niggas is going to fuck with you the whole time.
So I don't know if you're under contract if you doing this for fun with your podcast or whatever
But I would definitely take off the podcast
Until you get some victories at least to be over 500 because that's all you're gonna hear right now
Nigga don't get on the air until y'all niggas is winning Marlon Humphries. My suggestion.
Yeah, and he's a good player, you know. Yeah.
But the city of Baltimore deserves more pause.
Yeah, they ain't with it.
Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. I would be mad, too.
OK, we're going to go to break when we return.
You will discuss a Mike Tomlin quote. don't go anywhere.
Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day.
Sunday, the Steelers will play the Chargers.
Underdog has Justin Herber at 204 and a half passing yards.
Do you have him higher or lower Mace?
Higher.
I'm going lower man.
Harbour got the ball.
They running the ball absolutely really really good.
These, not saying that Justin Herbert is a game manager.
He's one of, he's an exceptional fucking quarterback.
I'd probably put him number five, if not before that,
in the league for top five quarterbacks, maybe.
Let me reevaluate that as the season goes along,
but hell of an arm, but the way Harbaugh's moving him,
he's like a game manager and they're winning on the ground,
so I'm gonna go lower.
Okay, George Pickens is at forty seven and a half receiving yards.
Do you have him higher or lower? Cam? Hi. Hi.
And Najee Harris is at fifty three and a half rushing yards.
Do you have him higher or lower? It makes law.
I'm going to go higher.
OK, you guys like these picks.
Remember, you get two free picks this week, So make sure you guys sign up for underdog. We are joined back with our analyst Maurice
Okay
So when asked about the petty game ball Russell Wilson received after Denver's loss Mike Tomlin
Responded in Mike Tomlin fashion and he said it's none of your business
I can't give you all the ingredients to the hot dog. You might not like it.
How do you interpret what he said, Maurice?
Wait, Mike, that was crazy, Mike.
You can't tell everybody the ingredients.
Go ahead, Mo.
How do you?
I don't know what to say, man.
Mike Thomas said he can't tell you.
What exactly was he referring to when he said that again?
Yeah, so they were asking about the petty game ball
that Russell Wilson received,
and they were asking him just about the situation.
What's the petty game ball?
Yeah, so basically because they beat Denver,
when you beat the team that you were on before,
that's the petty ball that you get,
even though he didn't play.
I was just about to say the nigga didn't even play.
Yeah.
Fuck is the person.
Why does he need, yeah.
I mean, if he would have played, I dig that.
I understand that if he played, but the nigga didn't even play.
So.
Russ doing too much.
What I say, what I say is this, though.
He's right about one thing and super duper poor.
You don't want to know what's in the hot dog.
I don't know how that correlation matches up.
Seriously, if you, you might not, you eat glizzies.
If you find out, I don't know how the correlation goes on
with the game, but don't ever Google what's in the hot dog.
If you like hot dogs, my nigga, telling you that right now,
you won't, we probably won't eat one again.
Pause.
Pause.
Is the same thing in a regular hot dog, is a chicken hot dog or a turkey hot dog? I?
Ain't do that much study
Beyond is with you, but a regular hot dog
Don't do it. Do you know what's in a hot dog?
Snoop told me what's in a in a I said, nah, I'm good after that.
And it's pretty bad what's in a hot dog.
Yeah, it's bad.
Yeah.
Yo, yo.
Yo, church, you grabbed that number?
Yeah.
She said, yeah.
She did say.
She said, yeah.
And she's 33. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. And she's 33.
Crazy.
It is funny.
It's a luxury working here.
Sometimes it's roughly a luxury working here.
Oh my goodness.
Okay.
Let's talk basketball.
So the OKC Thunder will give the Seattle Sonics their history back if the NBA grants Seattle and NBA team
Sources say they would give the Seattle history back to the Super Sonics
So after hearing that do you guys feel like they should bring the Super Sonics back?
I don't know if they should bring the Super Sonics back
But when this question was in the thread, I was asking myself, like when you give them their history back,
do you give them the rights to sale all of like the old jerseys, cards,
memorabilia and all that stuff that probably was selling before?
And that was like my only question I had in regards to this, because I don't,
I don't know why they would give them their history back for any other reason.
They would sell it to them, but I don't know why they would just give it to them.
I don't know. they would just give it to them. I don't know.
Yeah. Well, they, will they get that KD Jersey back in Seattle is the question and that
Russell Westbrook Jersey, I mean, you've given somebody back the history.
What is that?
Like, what is, are you giving a, like their slave name back?
I don't, I don't be trying to be funny.
It just, it's just, this this the way it comes to me.
Cause you know, what are you giving them back? Actually, you're not giving them the arena back. Um, what else you giving them banners back?
Imagine somebody owe you hundreds of millions and then they call you up and say killer.
I'm gonna get your Jersey back.
And you're going to give me more than just the Jersey back.
We need the team back.
I think they should bring the supersonics back.
I think it's way too much history that goes along with the supersonics,
Seattle supersonics did not have that team.
That's a, that's a storybook team.
I mean, even when you think of Peyton McMillan,
Dallas Shrimp, you know, Perkins.
There was a lot of-
Gary Peyton, Sean Kemp.
Yeah.
Dale Ellis.
Dale Ellis, yeah.
Dale Ellis had worse fate in the NBA history, but he could shoot.
That was my God.
You want to say something more?
Yeah.
Are, are, are they fighting for a team just like Vegas is fighting for a team?
Or I guess, where did it, where did it originate from that, that the
supersonics can have their team back?
I mean, I don't know.
Well, this is what I'll say about this,
is that I do think that the Supers,
pardon me, Seattle deserves
a NBA team.
They have a great football fan base there,
and they had a great basketball fan base there.
What happened was this, is that they couldn't get public funding to get a new arena.
Their contract was done where they were at and they needed a new arena.
They didn't want to renew their lease at that arena.
It was going to cost money to get a new arena.
The government didn't want to pay for it.
At this particular time, Katrina was going on so therefore the New Orleans Pelicans moved to the
move their franchise to OKC. When they moved their franchise to OKC because
of Katrina it was selling out every night and David Stern was like I'm gonna
pay the city back. So as soon as they couldn't get funding in Seattle he said
oh I know a place where we could take the team, move to Seattle Supersonics, to Oklahoma City,
renamed it the Thunder, and now we act like
the Seattle Supersonics never existed.
I don't really know what this,
I was just giving everybody a little bit of history to find,
just in case you don't know how the Thunder became
the Thunder in Oklahoma City and what we're talking about.
That's exactly how it happened. I don't know what give your history back actually means.
Like are they holding jerseys ransom at the bottom of the arena?
And OKC and Banner's I don't know what it means.
Give their history back.
But if you're old enough to know, like myself,
then you know that Seattle once upon a time had a team.
And if you're old enough to know,
Kevin Durant actually was drafted
From the Seattle Super Sonics. He played one year there before going to OKC
So I think that they deserve a team will they get a team? I'm not sure because we're talking about Vegas
We're talking about
Different places, but I think if it's gonna be an expansion team
I think it's out of Seattle or Las Vegas depending on what Tom Brady and LeBron want to do.
Yeah.
So basically they, they're giving them back their colors cam.
Their trademark will be transferred to the owner of the new team.
That's approved for them to play in a renovated key arena at no cost.
Play who who's playing them.
They're not going to be playing.
It's just good jargon, you know, good talk.
We did right.
I don't know.
There's nobody even playing.
Like Mo said, we're moving in the right direction.
I don't know.
We started conversation.
One thing for sure, Two things for certain.
I will say this, uh, Seattle produces really, really good basketball players
and not just good NBA basketball players, the list of NBA players from Doug
Christie to Nate Robinson, to Murray, to, uh, the Crawford, to Brandon Roy.
Listen, they, they create, produce really good basketball,
NBA players in the city of Seattle and Tacoma.
Don't get it fucked up.
I shot the Isaiah Thomas cause niggas get that.
They get a little touchy about that to cute Tacoma
and Seattle stuff, but outside of America,
it's just Seattle.
So shout to Tacomaoma, Jingles.
OK, you got it?
Yeah.
Hi, my nigga.
So they really produce a lot of good basketball players
in that area.
I asked Jamal Crawford, actually, why are you guys so good up there?
He said it rains so much, all we do is go inside and play basketball.
So hopefully you guys will get a team eventually one day.
I think you guys deserve it. So hypothetically speaking, where would you guys want to see a team for Seattle or Vegas?
Me personally, I'm going to say Vegas.
I mean, I'm not just in Seattle, but you got to go where Niggas is around.
Me personally.
Yeah, Vegas be lit.
Yeah.
Then Maurice, what do you think?
No Vegas.
Last time I visited visit Vegas Vegas was turning to a real city.
Just not the strip.
So I just I just like Vegas now moving along.
Miles Bridges dropped his on the radar freestyle.
He then tweeted dropping a tape before the season then retiring from music.
So how do you guys feel about professional athletes making music?
And then what was your reaction to the drop Maurice?
Making music is one thing, putting it out as something totally different. I agree they
can make music in, but that shit, he could have kept that. I just don't think he has
good people around him.
He wasn't going crazy, Mo?
No, that was some bullshit, bro.
When he say keep the main thing, the main thing, he uses leverage to get on that platform.
So whoever runs that thing, because I always see young people who rap on there, guys who can really rap
and really make good music. When he did that shit, somebody should have told him, like,
yo bro, we probably shouldn't do this, but he's confident. He's whack. You know what I'm saying?
You heard him, Mase?
That's a, I don't know.
To his defense though, Moe, he did say after this he's retiring though. How do you feel about that?
Hold on. Before you ask Moe, do you know any of his songs that he retired?
Funny miles I want to know I want to be dysrack you know, he was he was battling Damian Lillard
They had a little beef one time
But do you know any of his records, you know?
one time.
But do you know any of his records? You know any of his?
No, I don't.
I don't.
I'm not going back like I do.
Okay, I feel better to say, I don't know any of his.
Okay, all right, that's it.
I'm just asking.
Cause you trying to throw Mo under the gun.
Like you know,
you know his.
And I'm like, do you know?
He's so tiny.
And all I remember is, and I did hear,
and I was like, he wasn't bad when he was battling
Damian Lillit, I picked Damian Lillit,
but it was like a good battle,
and then Damian Lillit said some crazy shit,
and it was like, I'm gonna go with Dane.
He looked like he could be a good rapper though,
if he had, you know, if he had the guns,
the fake guns in the video, you know?
When he do this?
Yeah.
Niggas be having the long pause, fixed,
when niggas start all that.
You need more niggas around them,
pause with their shirt off and guns out, you know?
All right, cool.
Sella music, man.
Sella music.
I didn't think it was bad.
I think him and Dame are the best NBA rappers,
but I mean, everybody has different opinions.
What about Shaq now?
I know you ain't in the NBA no more.
I like his DJ sets.
Shaq battled Damian Lillard and everybody picked Shaq
when they did the vote online.
Yeah, you wildin', you wildin', you wildin' right now.
Shaq got the new freestyle, shout out to Shaq.
He got the new freestyle and he shout out
it is what it is in the show.
What happened to You Can't Stop the Rain?
Shaq sold about nine million records.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Shaq was a foosnickin'.
She wild and talking about.
Shaq Foo.
Yeah, Shaq was Shaq Foo at the minute.
She don't know the foosnickin'.
I don't.
But I'll go check it out.
In the comments, let us know who you guys think
is the best NBA rapper.
Okay, so it's that time of year again.
Ben Simmons is back.
He's in the gym.
He's working out.
He's putting up shots.
Three, two.
Yeah.
How do y'all expect put the season to go for him?
Put the camera on Cam.
He's gonna ball out this year. Yeah. That's my prediction. Killin on Cam. He's gonna ball out this year.
Yeah.
Killin' the Zs.
He's gonna ball out this year.
He was in threes.
He's balls from D2.
He gonna ball out this year.
He been listening to Cam.
He gonna ball out this year.
Watch.
He gonna ball out.
He gonna ball out.
Y'all.
Cam, you got been motivated.
You got it motivated.
Let's figure back to show Mo what he thinks.
I say the same thing about you. You have to have better friends around you.
Right.
When, when he, whoever his PR team was and they said, man, let's put these
videos out once again, it's the same cycle of bullshit where you get everybody
excited and you see this guy shooting shots.
You think that he can, you know, do all of these moves and then you get to
the season and he doesn't play.
I think it's going to pan out the same way.
History is going to repeat itself.
That's just my opinion.
Until further notice, he's a, he's a model.
That's just me.
Look, if anything is, this is what I will say.
What kind of model? Runway or print?
Look, man, be good at another thing.
He was super good at basketball.
People tend to forget he's a three-time wall star.
I don't know what kind of model he should be.
He be wearing glitter sneakers and shit
when I seen niggas.
So at the end of the day, what I will say is this
as far as basketball is concerned,
his contract is probably running out
not this year or the year after.
And if he does bowl out like Larry just said is because running out, not this year or the year after. And if he does ball out, like Larry just said,
it's because he like, nobody's gonna pick me up.
Look, Rich Paul and them dropped you.
My niggas like, yo, we ain't got time for this shit, man.
His agent called me when OJ had my back.
I don't disrespect his agent.
I Googled him, solidify agent,
but at the end of the day, niggas,
when the agent don't want you,
cause they know, you know, they eat off you.
It's bad, Murda.
Yeah, they know, no money's coming.
It's bad.
What I will say is this, this your last chance.
The Australian national team didn't want him.
The Australian national team said, nah, we good.
When the Olympics came around, how bad is that?
So, further notice, I don't know, but if he does bull outs, cause his
contract is up and what kind of contract do you do give them if he does
ball out, cause we're trying to say, Oh, you want a new round of money to not
play again, what do you really need to do is just join the Kardashian show.
That'll be a good transition.
Yeah.
They get, they get to it.
Yeah.
You can make money.
Yeah.
Give my hair product.
Yeah.
So shit.
Get one of your little products, the best thing is glistening, glistening your hair.
I don't know.
That's why I'm not mad at that.
Yeah.
Chris Jenner find you a bag.
Yeah.
Chris Jenner, she'll find that bag, nigga. Sign up.
Definitely. OK.
And then last, you know, reaction video.
So TMZ got a video of Derek White getting his hat slapped off his head
during an altercation at the Colorado versus Colorado State football
game the other week.
What was you guys' thoughts when you saw the video?
Who was he rooting for?
His alma mater.
And he went, you know, he went there with a rivalry game.
It was Colorado versus.
He went, so he went to Colorado?
Yeah.
Okay, gotcha.
And then there was against Colorado State.
He was at, you know, up there running his mouth.
Shout out to Derrick White, good basketball player,
but everybody's not gonna play with you.
Pause, niggas don't care that you're in the league.
Watch your mouth, man.
That's how homeboy took it.
Yeah, and another thing is, just to chime in real quick.
Nah, Derrick White is my guy, I'm just being funny,
but the kid that he was talking to
was just like they was talking,
and the dude didn't care that he was in the league.
He might not have knew, and I'm not saying he didn't know,
the whole thing is, if I'm just sitting there,
I know Derrick White because I know his face,
but it's like, when you're in population,
anything can happen.
When you're not on the field, when you're not in the skybox,
when you try to fit in for us.
When you're in population anything can happen, my nigga.
That's just the way it goes, man.
This is why they got field shit, skybox shit.
Because when you're, but you know how some niggas try to be like,
I'ma just fit in.
Yeah, I'ma be a regular.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
Okay, get your hat slapped off.
Yo, Slug, Slug, Slug is out there.
Word, that's what I'm saying.
But, yo, Slug, I got you a gift murder
before we wrap up.
Woo!
Let me see, real quick.
Yo, speaking of Colorado, Nick,
could we go to the tape real quick?
Let's go to the tape.
Hey, hey, I got damned today.
First and foremost son, drop that beat, give me some.
Come on, Dion.
Just said he ain't see.
You must live on another side.
These actually your glasses too.
Get a close up on me real quick.
Come on, Dion, now.
These is Mesa's glasses right here. I just got a. Yeah, Dion. Yeah, he's his Mesa's glasses right?
You know we used to fight over the D
Yeah, Mo and another thing y'all have Ohio State, all right
Mesa's glasses
He all said that we could come on the field and do our show on the field whenever we want before the season's over.
It is what it is. He said, you're invited too Mo. Let us know if we could go on the field on Ohio
State and do our show there. Get back to me when we got some more information on it.
Oh, you ain't gotta go nowhere. You ain't gotta go nowhere. That's already been worked out.
That's already been worked out. That's beyond.
Let me know, man.
He just said he ain't seen Macy's.
He said he been looking for you.
I might say it, Joe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got more sneakers.
I just bought everything, you know?
He said, yo, yo, man.
You're my favorite.
Yo, we gotta remember that, kid.
Can we get a run back on this video?
Run it back one more time.
A funky little T.
Give me one more time, Nick, for Coach Proud, man.
Hey, hey, I got damn today.
First and foremost, son, drop that beat.
More glasses.
You know we fought over them.
They can see.
Niggas was getting robbed for Deons when we was little.
Coach Proud, I delivered the package, pause.
Mo, I don't know what kind of sneakers they wearing up there, Ohio State.
But if this is what we doing, let me know.
Just let me know, man.
Coach Proud, my man, I'm going to be nice.
Coach Proud, my man. But he said heam my man, I'ma be nice. Coach Pram my man.
But he said he never seen you in Titletown.
But he said he never seen you in Titletown.
He was referring to us.
That's all I'm saying.
No, what I'm saying is Coach Pram's a champion now.
Don't get knocked Colorado.
Coach Pram lives in Titletown.
Don't act like you're even Super Bowl winner.
He lives in Titletown, all right?
Super Bowl champion, all right?
Let's not get that fucked up.
So he walks around Titletown.
Maybe like they said, he live on another side.
So he just might not have seen him yet.
Yeah, this was a good one.
You did good.
And murder, and murder just for the record.
You're back, you're back.
Thank you, murder, and just for the record, I remember when we was having our rap beef.
You told me you waited until I finished so I got more people from Titletown.
Just like, you know, I've been talking to a lot of people
in Title Town.
I'm not gonna load every single table.
I kept that in mind when you told me.
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All right Moe, it's your turn.
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Silence.
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You back.
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Honest words to that guy.
Thanks.
Statement of the day.
Well that was great.
Shout out Coach Prime. Maurice, that was great. Shout out, Coach Prime.
Maurice, thank you for being here today.
We will see you next week.
That is all the time that we have for today.
Thanks for watching.
And as always, it is what it is.
It is what it is, man.
Yeah, that was good.
That was great.
That was really good.
Nick, I think you are suffering.