IT IS WHAT IT IS - CALEB WILLIAMS REVENGE GAME, FALCONS BIG WIN OVER BILLS, DART'S SWAG & CHIEFS MIGHT BE BACK!

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

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Make sure you all support the show, locking your bonus, and start playing today with code. It is what it is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Cam. and today we are joined with our analysts, Arabia. Hello, how are you? Hey, Arabia. Oh, my goodness. My ears fell out.

I was like, what did you mean? Your ears fill out. She said, hi. Oh, my goodness. How are you doing today? I'm doing great. Thank you. I'm coming off a really busy weekend.

So, ready to talk about some football. I think I got two left ears today. Oh man What are you trying to fix it I can hear you now I thought I just wasn't hearing any commanders At this point No

I mean I know I miss commanders And I'm the first person people think of When it comes the commanders But you know I guess I guess we'll get there You're the first person when it comes the commander Your skin is glowing What are you doing these days

I'm ignoring the bullshit You know Everybody got something to say Whenever I say something But I'm ignoring everybody If you got negative shit to say I don't hear it So that's what I'm doing

I'm ignoring How are you picking up All of these negative vibrations And such on vibrant colors That are around you Um You know I don't know how

But I'm bouncing it right back Pause So you know I'm minding my business Yeah, that might have been an overrule, but... I feel like that... Yeah, she's bouncing it right back is crazy. That's valid.

She's letting people. No. Well, glad to have you on the show. Glad to see you Mace. Glad to see you can. What are you wearing, Statt? Ais. Shout out the Aces.

Oh, my goodness, Statt. And I love this for them. I love this for us. Is this? Us? Are you starting to show Cammer on in right now? No, it's just like, I'm just in a celebratory winning. mode.

So, yes, shout out to the Aces. Because they did their thing. You love that for us. Yeah. You might as well say us too. You was with Ais. Cam was with the Aces. Us as a whole.

Winning. Yes. I really want to know if Camas with the Aces, can you put the camera on Killer? Killer, are you a part of the Aces now and two? Yeah. I've been the game. Me and Stap been the games, Mace.

Thank you. Thanks you. You're the only one who doesn't go anywhere. People go places. We've been to the Aces game on several occasions. Yes. So it doesn't like we haven't been to this ACEs game. Yes, I fuck with the Aces.

You got on black and silver now too, Kim. I need a time out. Pause. I need a time out. I'm a spurs fan. Makes sense. It do make sense. Yeah. I can't right now.

For real. First of all. Cam, you've never been an Ais fan. When have you started being a fan of a female team? Because I don't know this. I know you went to a game, but I've been to a Liberty game. I've been to the Atlanta Dream, but I'm not a fan.

I've been a fan of girls' team since I was in junior high school. Cameron was the point golf our team. I've been liking girls sports for a long time. It ain't nothing new, brother. Yeah. You know, we ain't speaking a little minute. I've been supportive, man. Do you know the, do you know,

history of the Aces coach, though, where she originally started at? At the Spurs, Cam. Cam, what do you think? Do you think I'd just be rolling the dice up here? I know people think I'm rolling the dice up here, but I'm not. Can I speak? Can I speak? This is what you normally tell me is my goal.

Can I speak? Actually, everybody spoke for about six minutes and I just sat in smoking before I say anything. He was doing the colors, the vibrations and all. type of shit and I didn't say anything I was just sitting here listening but guys you can speak because I got more to say guys it's your time which team was your best team

at Manhattan Center mine's was um denika numbed you know from the Bronx yours was Karen or epi number yeah yeah Karen had to start mixed a lot show the epi epi was cool

Karen was mixing like a nigga yeah Aaron was mixing they said y'all look to like Yeah, I'm kidding. It's too early for that. I'm saying, that's like you're all going to be brothers and sisters. Yeah, shout out to care.

Yeah, shout out to care. But the moral of the story is the coach for the, for the aces started out with the spurs under my man and pop. She coached in the NBA. Not only did she coach in the NBA, she coached in the summer league where she led the spurs to a championship in the summer. in the summer league before she even went to the WMBA. So I'm not just a fan of hers because she went to ACEs. She's part of the lineage. Hmm.

What a way to tie all this together, Killer. That was crazy. You're getting good, pause, for real. You're saying, she's part of the lineage, man. Yeah, Spain game is getting impeccable. That's all facts. There's nothing I'm saying. It's not a fact.

Everything that says is a fact. well i actually was a south californa fan back when they had um what was her name something toy or something like that i forgot her name how much of a fan were you if you don't know the name do you know do you know and speaking of south californ do you know cam i got i'm having a lot on my where the asian wilson play at merlin come on that's easy south californ can okay then if you There's a fan, that's what I'm saying, the best player in the world, as far as females are concerned, played for South Carolina. And what kind of fan are you if you don't know that?

No, but this was one of my people's that played in there. She had the threes. She was super swaggery, but Don wouldn't let her shoot up threes. Okay, gotcha. It's person. Yeah. Well, either way, shout out the Aces. They did their thing because, like, Kahn said, we have been fans.

And even, like, not even to add to it, but even back then, he was posted up with Sabrina. like he posted everything and has showed a lot of visible support. So I do also want to give him his followers for that because he has been very adamant about supporting women's sports. I'm just saying. Just saying. That might be a good question to ask.

Maybe I'll ask Saudi this. Saudi Arabia, when do you actually become a fan? What makes you a fan for the listeners, for the viewers, for all of the subscribers? Remember, if you're not hating, why are you waiting? subscribe right now. What makes you a fan, Arabia? Yeah, subscribe right now. I think it's when you officially start rooting for that team, like, whenever they play.

So for me, let's say there's a team that's playing the Cowboys. I'm low-key rooting for that other team, but I'm not a fan of that other team just because I'm rooting for them. I'm a fan of my team because I don't care who we play, when we play, I'm hoping they win. I'm rooting for them in all situations. So, you know, it's really when you start to get behind the team and watching all their players and knowing all their moves and stuff like that. Okay.

So then I can, so then you can have more than one team. You can, you could be behind two teams, right? I mean, you could, but I wouldn't recommend it. I think you should really just have one team. A backup team seems like a cop-out. Okay. Thank you. I got a better, I got a better question for you, Mace.

When do you stop being a fan? Because week to week, we don't know. When you stop being a friend? According to Arabia, when you stop following what they're doing and you're no longer interested in what the players are doing and you're no longer rooting for them this week. So that could change week to week according to Arabia. It could, but it shouldn't.

I think that makes you fake, but you are a fan. You just told me what a fan was. A volatile fan is you're standing behind a team. You want to know what the players are doing. You want to know everything about them. It's just like dating almost. Stop wanting to know about them. You stop caring about what they're doing or how they're feeling that week, right?

This, come on, Cam, help me out here. If you're a serial fan or a serial dater or a ho-ass nigger or just a ho, then yeah. You're going to get with multiple people from week to week. That doesn't mean that you're not a fan. It just means that you're giving it up real easy. That's all it is. Oh, well, back in the days, I was easy. I'm not going to lie, Paul.

What a lovely combo to start. We love definition. We're going to start with the games from last night, starting with the commander. So the bears beat the commanders 25 to 24, Arabia. What were your biggest takeaways from this game? my biggest takeaways were the takeaways it's hard to win football games when you lose the turnover battle three takeaways for the bears Washington had three turnovers two of them I think were on jaden Daniels one was an interception and one was a fumble when he was given it to bill and the other one was just a force fumble by bill once again but I mean the bears did what they had to do they capitalized on those mistakes by the commanders especially early on 10 points in the first half that the cap that the bears got based on the commander's turnovers um sorry as defense commanders got a sorry defense i don't want to always hear about joe whit junior and the way he's scheming it up the players on the field are

not executing whatever the plan is and the offense isn't helping with those three turnovers so based on how they play the commanders deserved to lose this game i saw terrible things in the defense too many mistakes in the offense the bears deserved to win this game I don't know if I can go that I think you're being too hard on your team if they had two more points you probably will be talking better I don't think you'll be saying all of this if y'all if y'all won the game would you be saying that the defense was still horrible if y'all won the game yes I mean I'm on record saying I think my team's going to win nine games this season around nine games I'm not that type of person who thinks that like sometimes the better team doesn't win so I'm I'm not a type of person who thinks that like sometimes the better team doesn't win so I'm not I'm not the type of person just because we played a good game. Like, no, it's any given Sunday for a reason. Well, actually, this goes along with my thesis of what I said yesterday, Cameron,

if you're listening, because I know he hates when I say Cameron, but if you get over to the person. I love my name. I love my name. I actually like being called Cameron better than Cameron. Like, my name is Cameron. Okay. Okay.

Well, Cameron, this is what I would like to say. this is a perfect time to look at 225, because that's what we're watching right here. We're watching 225, and it's not a 30-point game. And guess who wins? The quarterback that got the 225 first. That isn't this ironic. We're looking at Caleb Williams, only one touchdown. The other guy got three touchdowns and one interception, but it doesn't matter.

Remember, my secret to football. The first quarterback, the 225 is going to win the game unless they win with championship points. And that's 30 points or higher. So I stand justified in this stat. Okay. Cam. Drew came into the fact yesterday, actually, where the 30 points stood. Cam, the people loved it.

The people, I read the comments too, Cam. The people love that. Some people said, yo, this nigger may, he's the best. in the whole world, but, but they have to agree. That's not, that's not a compliment, just so, you know, I didn't know if we knew that or not, but it depends on how you hear it. It depends on, it depends. It is, not in this scenario, not in this scenario.

It's really not a good compliment. It's like when I be hearing niggas be saying, yo, I went viral. Vival's not always good. Yeah, viral is definitely not always good. You might never work again, but you went viral. But you went viral. I'm viral. You're viral for the wrong

reason sometimes. But as far as the game is concerned, I'm not going to even sit here, act like I watched the whole game because I was more focused on the Bills and Falcons game and the way the NFL is scheduling shit. I didn't want to flip channels today and I didn't want to put it on two TV, so I focused on other game.

But I did see the end of the game, which is purely the commander's fault. I mean, it was raining and all that fly shit, but you're up to field, you can end this game, it's only a couple of minutes left, and they fumbled. And Arabia, maybe Arabia's point was on cue. You can't turn the ball over, and not just turn the ball over, turn the ball over at crucial times. This was a payback for what y'all niggas did to them last year, Arabia. Do that motherfucker, hell Mary, when a nigger was playing games on the sidelines, so on and so forth.

Same time, same place last year, and it just ain't going your favor this time. But, yeah, you got to protect the ball, but not just turnovers, the time of turnovers. Y'all was in position to win the game whether your defense is playing good, bad, or indifferent. Y'all could have won this game,

but that last turnover with about two, three minutes left, I'm not sure exactly, I know it was short change. And they kicked the field, go to beat you. I agree with your take. I don't have too much more. say outside out. I thought you hit the nail on the head for it. Okay. So now next.

I mean, four. No, I was going to say four first downs based on penalties. I feel like the Bears actually bailed us out a lot. And we were handed opportunities to win the game and just didn't. So congratulations to the Bears. Y'all deserved to win that game. Y'all got y'all lick back. All right.

But are we ready to say that Caleb Williams is serious at this point? Are we taking them serious at this point? Cam, Arabia, stat. Got to take everybody in the league serious. Go ahead, Cam. No, what I was going to say is that this, you know, we give Kayla Williams a hard time up here sometimes. But there's three games in a row. You got to think about he went through different offensive coordinators, different coaching.

And it's not always a pick up on somebody's offense or coach of style and so on and so forth. But I will say this, that the bears are hitting a rhythm right now at a good time and hit a rhythm. And Caleb Williams is a part of that. He's playing really well. We'll see what time tells. But right now, I'm not afraid to say I believe in the Bears, but I do want to say that they're looking good the last couple weeks, considering all things they have to deal with the last couple of years.

What about you, Statt? Is he tall enough to see over the defense? I mean, yes. I never had an issue with Caleb Williams with anything that he's done. I just wanted him to have the best career that he can have, being younger and he's getting better game by game. So that's all I want to see. I'm rooting

for everybody. Not everybody. Not everybody in my division. Okay. So this next game, we're going to talk about the bills because I feel like just in general, we've seen a lot of games have an outcome that I feel like a lot of people didn't expect. So the bills lost to the Falcons

24 to 14. Arabia, do you think the bills should start to be worrying or do you think that they're just fine? And then how do you feel about the Falcons. Yeah, no, the bills are just fine. If you watched my show, All 32, which comes on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 4 p.m. On this channel, I said the Patriots were going to beat the bills the previous week.

And then once again, I had the Falcons upsetting the bills this week. It's all on wax. It's all on the show. The reason why I said that, number one, before I get to my reasoning, before we get to my reasoning, once again, it's hard to win football games when you lose the turnover battle. right now through what six games four interceptions for josh allen he had six total last season all four interceptions came in the last three games he has to protect the ball if you don't win the turnover battle you probably won't win the game it's a very reliable predictor to wins and losses

but when it comes to my prediction the reason why i had the falcons winning this game was because coming into this game the falcons had one of the best passing defenses in the NFL they allowed the few as passing yards in the NFL, very few touchdowns as well. When that happens, especially if Atlanta were to get up in the game early, which they did, that puts more pressure on Buffalo to keep it on the ground. But what does that do? It forces you to eat up time. At some point, you're racing against the clock.

You have to pass the ball because you need to get up quickly because time is running out. And that's exactly what we saw. So there's nothing to worry about because the Patriots are a solid team. They're in their division. Division games, anything can happen. And for the Falcons, a really good passing defense. So the bills are completely fine. They have nothing to worry about, just clean it up moving forward.

Yeah, I really believe that the bills have nothing to worry about. I think when you got such a Supreme quarterback that when it comes down to the postseason, it really boils down to players like that and people that can make plays. And he can make Josh Allen can make plays. Not to mention that when you look at this game right here, Atlanta versus the bills, It's a testament, again, about the numbers that I keep bringing up, just like you just share a point of view that you have, Arabia. I'm sticking with mine the same way, the first quarterback to 225, and that happened to be Pinnock's, and they happen to win the game. I think the bills definitely need to be concerned.

The last two weeks, they haven't been playing good, and the Patriots are looking like they're hitting their rhythm. Actually, the bills aren't in first place in the division, and I don't know how long. Maybe since the Patriot era. No, don't quote me because we know we got our staff masters in the comments and so on and so forth. But, you know, in recent memory, the bills have been winning that division consistently. They lost to the Patriots and not only losing to the Patriots, they look really, really good. I'm talking about the Patriots this season. Stefan Diggs got them niggins on one.

The quarterback play, Drake May is playing really good, and you can see the frustration on Josh Allen face two weeks in a row. I wouldn't write them off, and I wouldn't say they're going anywhere, but should they be concerned? Yes, right now they should be concerned because the Patriots, this is the most excitement that they had in their spot. And probably since Tom Brady was winning championships there, we know Bill Belichick didn't do anything after Tom Brady left.

But I see a lot of excitement in New York area. But on the other side of football, we've got to give the Atlanta credit, Atlanta Falcons some credit. They're also in strata. People don't realize the dogs that Penix has to work with, not just in the receiving game. I don't want to say his name wrong, but Bejohn Robertson, pardon me if I'm notherne, name wrong, homie. Man, that niggas a killer and not just as a running back, but also he could catch the ball. So when Pennington is in trouble out the backfield, he's also going to be a problem. Right now, he has the most yards from scrimmage, I believe a little over 800 yards.

In the least amount of games, Christian McCaffrey came in to this week leading with the most yards from scrimmage in six games. Bejohn Robertson has 800-something yards from scrimmage in five games. And then he's running for a shitload of yards. And not only that, he could catch, like I said. So I think, you know, we've always given this last couple of years, this division saying, well, we know Tampa's going to do it. We know this team are going to do it. This division always could finish under 500 and some type of weight,

always make it to the playoffs. But sitting here looking at the stats, and I'm looking at them there, pardon me here for taking a second to pull up, they're a game and a half outside and back of Tampa Bay. and they're playing really good and Tampa Bay is playing phenomenal right now but two losses and two wins from Atlanta can change that all up

so I want to keep an eye on Atlanta as well and as far as the first question is that yes the bills should definitely you know I'm not writing them off but yeah the alert button should definitely be on for the Patriots in that division and then Cam you spoke on the Patriots excitement which they have every reason to be excited right now

because they are sitting at the top of the AFC East Arabia how did? legit, do you think the Patriots are? It all depends on November and December. And that's one of the reasons why I don't think the bills should be super worried. These really good teams are really good in September and October, but some of the best teams in the NFL don't play their best ball until November and December. So I just want to see the Patriots prove it when it comes later on in the season.

And if they're still playing well and have that momentum going into, you know, week 15, 16, 17, then yeah, definitely got to keep an eye on that. But right now is cool. but, you know, the rail will separate from the fake come like November. And then, Mace, do you think the Patriots are legit? Or do you agree with Arabia's point? I agree with Arabia. I think is, but I think you could tell that much earlier than week 15, 16, 17.

I think for me it's around, round week 12 to 14. I think when you get to the end, you kind of already, it's kind of easier to tell. But right, week 12, you could see who's making a turn, who's getting. worse and who's going to actually be better when it's all said and done. Okay. And then, Cam, do you have a rebuttal to that? Are you? I think all these games count.

Football is not basketball where you got 82 games. Every game counts. What do y'all think the Jets going to look like in week 12? You know, it's going to be a different from week six? Do you think Baltimore's is going to make it to the playoffs? I doubt it. I'm not saying that Arabia is wrong or Mace is wrong. You're right when it comes into them dog.

months of the NFL. That's when it really counts. But I agree with Michael Erwin said on our show yesterday, this year is not a year where you're going to see one team just dominate and be like, oh, that's the team to beat. It's a lot of disparity this year. And week to week, teams that we thought were win will lose. We all picked the bills to win this game, but they didn't, except for Arabia, pardon me. But it's a lot of disparity to where you're like, you're not going to know what happens week to week. So I do agree with you guys, but I don't want to sit here and say week one through six doesn't matter because if you get off to a fucked up start,

yeah, it matters. Right now, Baltimore, I wouldn't even know if I put Lamar Jackson back in the rest of the season just to make sure he heals up for next season, depending on what their record is when he does get back. But yes, November, December counts, but these games do matter. Yeah, all good points. And I just think in general it makes it interesting when there's not just somebody at the top of the ladder. I like to see teams that we wouldn't typically expect being in spaces that we wouldn't expect them to be because I think it adds more fun to it, even just as a viewer, because now I think our predictions as a whole have swayed a lot because our expectations have

just not been met for a lot of people. So it's interesting to kind of see how it's going to go and hopefully we get a little bit more fun. But again, just not for the game on Thursday because I need that win. Okay, so I just got to make that clear. Okay, so now we're going to talk about the Titans. So they fired their head coach Brian Callahan after a 1 and 5 record for this season. So the Titans president of football operations said,

we just felt like this was the right time to make a change. But I also want to highlight this quote from him the other day when the Titans lost to the Raiders. He said, I'm incredibly discouraged by the outcome. We felt good coming into the game. And to not to be able to perform well on offense, to not be able to score points and then lose the game. It's disappointing. We've all got to be better. Cam's a part of that, too.

Cam's got to play better football, obviously, in reference to Cam Ward. So Arabia, how do you feel about that quote from their now past head coach? Then do you think they made the right decision in firing him? I mean, first of all, let me just say about Cam Ward. He has only three passing touchdowns over the last six games, his first six career games. The only number one overall pit quarterbacks to have fewer passing touchdowns do their first first six career games, John Elway, Terry Bradshaw, and Alex Smith. So if you're worried about Cam Ward through six games of his rookie season, don't worry. He has a lot more football to be

played. You cannot put your rookie quarterback on a short leash. That is a mistake. So yes, you can expect more from your number one overall pick, but I agree. And I'm sure we'll talk about Tom Brady later. I agree with Tom Brady where it's like we put way too much value on where he was drafted. and the expectation based on where he's drafted, when we've seen time and time again, late round picks come in and be dogs to have long careers, and these top picks be trash. And as far as the last four number one overall picks in the draft,

all four have seen their head coaches fired in their rookie campaign. It began in 2021 with Trevor Lawrence. He saw Urban Meyer fired. Then, 2023 with Bryce Young, he saw Frank Reich fired. Then last year, Caleb Williams saw Matt Iberfluse, fired. And this year, Cam Ward saw Brian Callahan fired. So the last four number one overall picks have all seen their head coaches fired. One of the best thing you can do for a rookie quarterback is consistency. And I hate that these, I hate that this is happening, but it kind of is what

it is. So coming up, they have, you know, the Titans have the Patriots. Who's the head coach for the Patriots? Mike Vrable, who was fired by the Titans. So this would be Vrable's first time facing his former team since they fired him, which would be a very interesting. storyline for week seven. Yeah, I think when it comes to this particular firing, it was warranted, even though they made a commitment for a long-term plan. Sometime you make a long-term plan and you recognize that you made a mistake and it's better to cut your losses earlier than later, like you said, a lot of these quarterbacks

their coaches got fired, but this coach got fired for the mere fact that it was just too many turnovers. It's like, yeah, as a coach, it's one thing if you're losing because something is not working out just yet. But when you just, you're just losing the ball every time you go down, not every time, but it was just too many turnovers. And I think they just had enough of it. And they couldn't blame Cam because he had just got there. They think is the system and they don't want to lose the coach and the player when they could just pick one. And he had to go. It came down to him and Cam, and they wasn't ready to leave Cam. am. They just got him there. And they just got rid of the coach. I think he got to people got to take

it serious when they get in there. And I think his after the game post comments really let Tom getting fired as much as that wasn't brought up yet. When you speak in low of a quarterback that was drafted so high is is very, is nowhere good to go in that kind of conversation. So you had to go. football's the ultimate team sport. You're not going to get everything done in one year. The reason Ken Wall was the number one pick is because the Tennessee Titans were the worst team in the NFL last year. It's not going to all turn around because you drafted the quarterback number one. It's just not going to happen. There's too many other pieces to have to go together. But to put some more context to what the coach said, a couple Sundays ago,

Ken Ward kind of took shots at the whole team. He said, we're playing like shit. And I'm not paraphrasing. They were playing like shit, all of us. He included himself. But he basically, you know, I don't remember if he threw a coaching staff in there, but he basically took a shot at the whole team saying we all playing like shit. And we're not doing good. And he took accountability for itself.

So, you know, when you come in and still lose games after those type of comments, they won last week by luck. But this week when you lose again and there, you have. up the coach saying his name. So now it's like we don't know because we're not in the locker room. We don't have any information probably to the locker room. Who knows if Cam Ward and the head coach is on the same page? And nine times out of 10, if you're a superstar, not saying Cam Ward is a superstar,

but Arabia brought up some great stats and some Hall of Famers. I don't know if Alex Smith is going to the Hall of Fame, but we know what Terry Bradshaw and John Elway did. He has a lot of time to be great just like those people. players. So they rather nipped this in the button now as opposed to waiting another year or two and then it comes out that they're not there. This is not nothing new. And the reason I use superstar players because we've seen, and you know, I'm just going to go to basketball because I'm more basketball knowledgeable than football, even though I know more football. But we've seen this with Magic Johnson, get a coach fired. We've seen this when Michael Jordan, you know,

he won't admit it, but wasn't on the same page. with Collins and they bought Phil Jackson. The superstar or the star or the potential star, it's going to have the long term. It's going to have the upper hand in the situation. If you ever coach and you're not doing good and you have a potential

superstar on your team, watch your mouth. That's the pause. That's just that. Be careful what you say because it only takes one walk upstairs to the front office ownership or anybody else and say, I don't know if this is the place for me to be. Oh, What's the problem?

Now, the coach, I bet. We don't like that nigga like that anyway. Be careful. Watch them out. Yeah, wasn't he coaching last year, Arabia? Because now it's not just one in five. He's like four and 19. Yeah, so they actually went four and 19 since last season.

Yeah, yeah, he definitely got to go. He's not just one in five. My thing is this when you lose and Maceboard up a point. See, this is my thing, right? with certain shit when you bring over sometimes you just lose the locker room and they're not fucking with you

and it's just like that like when you bring up the turnovers like May say he's right you can't have turnovers but the coach can't secure the ball which you want him to do he can't hold on to the ball if y'all fumbling and

throwing interceptions and not reading the routes correctly etc. They just like man whatever we don't fuck with this nigga anyway like if I was the jet coach I was talking to my man yesterday and I'm like if I'm the Jets coach I would just walk in the locker and be like if y'all don't want me here say

that if y'all don't fuck with me just say y'all don't fuck with me because y'all trying to get me can't. Y'all definitely don't fuck with me. We can't win a game just say you don't like me like that I was telling my nigger that yesterday that's what I would say if I was the head coach just say y'all don't fuck

with me big. Let's just get out I don't know. Yeah. You're mad at that because at least it's honest. No, it's true. Because when they want their bonus, pause, you want me to run the play if it's your bonus week, right? If you're going for yards that can give you that incentive,

you want me to tell a quarterback to run this play, right? Today I need y'all niggas to win me a game, man. I'm halfway out the door. Yeah. And it seemed like y'all, y'all, y'all, it seemed like y'all would put me out the door. Pause. That's how I feel. Same way,

same way, for instance, right? You sit here and we hear all the rumblings about the giant, and this is in a coaching situation, but you sit here and hear the rumblings. It was only two weeks. Yeah. We're Jackson Dard at. We're Jackson Dard at. And then you see how much

they love Jackson Dard as opposed to Russell Wilson. Energy is different. And that carries on sometimes. Yeah, three weeks ago they was acting like Russ might be back 300 yards barely even that.

The excitement for Jackson Dart is very, very valid and a clear, clear difference. Sorry to Russ. The shout out of the Giants Bay. The thing about it is this. The thing about it too is this that I don't care. Outside of

Philadelphia, I would say maybe D.C. And it's a couple of other places that I may not be naming. Atlanta. When you got white, it's all right. Especially when he got a little swag, and he can play, man.

White is all right, man. That's just how it goes, man. If it's always going in certain cities, you sit there and you don't see any black fans in the front because the tickets are two especially unless they're family members. It's just the way it go, man. So when you got somebody white, and to me, Jackson Dog got a little more swag than Russell Wilson.

of every black, white, or Chinese, or spinach, or whatever, and he's a little more swaggy. So he appeals to the older white people, and then the younger white men or whatever kids that want to wear du rags. He's definitely a good in between. Just his movement in the hidden heads with the scouting. Like, he definitely got some swag to him.

So I see the, See what I'm saying. He's right. Yeah, this is crazy. He's right. Nicar is just averaging. She's telling him how he got swag. He does, though.

What about the QBR? He already has the memes. He already has the confidulations of just the things that he's been doing. And you know, like, especially once kind of like the media and like the fans and the audience decides like, oh, he's cool. Like, that's stamped. he's stamped he is like he's already made that name for himself

so like what name they're like he has like two and five what name is he made he has though like he's stamped like him is correct

like everything that I've seen I'm like I can't even disagree because he's literally stamped that on himself so Jackson and he went to USC like Cali Cool like all the things so let me ask you a question

is that does cause the back have swag Yeah, let's go Yeah Now Now we do You was hating on the nigga So I was just wondering

Do you got swaggers I admit that though I admit that Now he does You admit what You was hating I don't like the term hating But I wasn't on the bandwagon

Yet I wasn't feeling it And now But now he's Now because he's winning He got swag Does one they make you have swag yeah it does you do what you want would you pop it that's a real quote that's a very real thing you do what you want when you poppins so as long as he's winning do what he won when he's popping yeah this is crazy that's the truth that's the world okay so we talked about a quote coming from the coaches side so this next conversation is going to be real interesting because we're going to talk about a quote directly from the quarterback got to talk about the dolphins we will discuss after the break

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It's that like this. going to go higher. I got the, I got the Steelers yellow on. I'm going higher. Okay. Cam. Yeah, I'm going to go higher as well. Okay. D.K. Metcalf is at 64 and a half receiving yards. Do you have them higher, lower, Cam?

Higher. Yeah, I'm going to go higher as well. Okay. And T. Higgins is at half of a rushing and receiving touchdown. So do you have them higher or lower Mace? Half rushing in so basically, touchdown, whether it's receiving or a rushing touchdown.

I'm going to go lower. Okay. And come. Yeah, I'm going to lower as well. Okay. Make sure you all download the Underdog app and you can make your picks too. So Dolphins got a lot going on. The Dolphins lost to the Chargers 29 to 27.

So after the game, Tua talked to the press and called out leadership. He said, starts with the leadership in helping articulate that for the guys and then what we're expecting out of the guys we're expecting this are we getting that are we not getting that we have guys showing up to player only meetings late guys not showing up to player only meetings there's a lot that goes into that do we have to make that mandatory do we not have to make that mandatory so it's a lot of things of that nature that we got to get cleaned up it starts with little things like that and that is just one quote we've seen a lot of quotes from toa just over the season.

So, Arabio, what is your opinion on one, what Tua said, and also where he said it? Tua don't know where he at. Tua fucked up. Tua Abdullah Ablangada in there doing the Harlem shake. Tua needs to be usher off the pony, and Sarah Bellum is fucked up. It's crazy because I have an inside source on the dolphins, and I can't say who. But I asked, I was like, your quarterback said, y'all showed up the meetings late. He was like, we don't know what he's talking about.

We have no idea who he's talking about, what he's talking about, what player only meetings. Is he talking about film study? Because those aren't player only. Like, yesterday on Monday, some of the players got together and was like, what is Tua talking about? So Tua just needs to be ushered off the podium. He don't know what he's talking about. And he said it's about leadership. Nigger, you're a leader.

Yes, there are different levels of leadership. You have the owner and you have head coaches in GM, but you are in a leadership position. And for you to once again get behind that podium and throw your guys under the bus and maybe even admit that they don't respect you by saying that they're not coming to players only meetings or showing up late just shows a lot about your leadership. So it's Tua, Tua fucked up, man. Tua fuck up. Yeah, Tua is throwing his team under the bus and he's throwing the football away. He's talking about people not delivering. He's the main one not delivering. Pause. He have three interceptions in this game. Such a

close game. They lose by two. And he has three interceptions. Not to mention that the way, the way even when he's scrambling with the ball, he's not looking like he knows what's going on out there. He wants to blame everybody else. This is the team. You are, you're in Miami. You're in the best place that you guys can hang out. You can build camaraderie with. And you just got to do more, I think, on this team off the field. I think you could tell, like I remember we were talking before and I think it was killer. Somebody was talking about how you could tell when players don't fool with each other. Like this, this, it just hasn't written all over this team. This is the worst place to play, play bad at because it's such a beautiful city. And the fans

don't deserve this. And they're all, every day we're hoping that tour doesn't get hurt. But I don't, I don't know if him not getting hurt is, is really beneficial to them because right now he's not playing well at all. If I'm Mike McDonnell, I don't know if y'all, if y'all ever seen Juice before, the movie Juice, Statt probably hasn't. But the movie, Seen the Statt, or seen Nick Winterstatt, did you see it? It's on my list. That's crazy. Oh, my goodness.

It's on my list. What is it on your list means, Statt? I have a list. You seen juice before? Oh, man, it's on my list, too. Oh my goodness We're in here with I feel so seen

I'm just gonna say that My goodness Guys there's a lot of movies There's a lot of movies There's a lot You guys should do a movie Suburban black girls Yeah

No we need to start a club for sure I'll be the president It's a scene in juice where Tupac, you know, his name is Bishop in the film and he hasn't seen his man in a while when they closed the locker he's right behind the locker like, what's up, where you've been?

That would have been me from Mike McDonald right into a locker room like, yeah, what's up with you? Back to the point with the Jets, I just saying, what is you trying to get me fired, nigga? What do you mean it starts with leadership? Do we have a problem? It seems like we got a problem

because it seemed like you're trying to get, get me can't because you tee turning the ball over. That's what it sounds like to me when I heard. It sounded like too long fuck with the coach. Tyreek is out for the rest of the season. Miami been under scrutiny. The last, ever since Tyreek Hill got there, it's been scrutiny. It's been concussion after concussion.

It's been Tyree. Hill arrested on the floor. It's been thrown on the floor outside the stadium. They're not winning games. And this is all frustration built up when you don't win and you expect it to do better. and what you're doing, it's frustration.

And then what happens with frustration if you don't fuck with niggas, finger pointing. Then you start blaming one person and say,

listen, though, this and third, Arabia gave us some information we wasn't preving to. So that was great to know that.

But it sounds to me like Tua is pointing the finger at everybody, and that's just, that's just what it is. More importantly, I know he said

the player meetings and so on and so forth, but the both, the one thing he said in the comments when I watched the interview is leadership. And now, you know, Arabia pointing out different type of leaders. But if you talk about leadership, you talk about coaching staff, general management, or the owners. I don't think you want to talk about the owners that's cutting the check.

And I don't know if he has a problem with general manager, but I see Mike McDonald come on the day after to him made some statements and was like he shouldn't have did that. he shouldn't have came on you know i'm paraphrasing but he he shouldn't have did that and he knows better type type vibe like he know if i if i had to paraphrase he because he was like niggas know better than that and and niggas need to keep their name out my mom up that's how he kind of said it and the mike macdonald way sound like a bunch of finger pointing from to my personal opinion yes and i mean the only other person he could have been talking about was the offensive coordinator but i mean when you think about it a lot is going wrong from the

beginning of the season. Just imagine you a quarterback. And I always do this, not to be double-minded, but just to show you the other side of this conversation. He may be thinking, well, at the beginning of the year, I thought I was going to have Odell. I thought I was going to have Tyreek and all this other stuff. And now he's sitting here without any of that. And he got to play by itself pretty much. Well, listen, this could have been years when Tyreek and them niggas said, we thought we was going to have you. You wasn't available. So that's a double on both sides of the coin.

You was out for two years straight with injury, apart me with concussions, and the reason I came here was for you. I'm pretty sure Tyreek Hill looked at every Kansas City game and be like, man, we could have won four straight. But he went to took his money, he got his championship, et cetera, but he came there but thinking that he had a reliable quarterback, And because Tua hasn't been hurt in the last year, thank God, he's pointing fingers now.

You was missing for a couple years. Not straight, I mean, you played games in the season, but he was out too. It happens as football. Yeah, even to that point, even just with Tua, like, I wish he would say something like that. Because you got other teams literally working with what they got. We've seen it prime example with the Buccaneers. I mean, we're sure Baker Mayfield wishes he had Mike. fens we're wishing he's wishing he had bucky irvin like all those players that are literally

injured so like the excuses are dumb because he is literally pointed fingers at everybody else except himself because when cam brings up the quote from cam ward at least cam ward can admit where he's making mistakes but also he's a rookie in doing that not just blaming everybody else so to us gonna need to fix that but my question to you guys just after kind of hearing that and then hearing can paraphrase what Mike McDaniel basically said which show that they weren't on the same page what is the solution

supposed to be here like what can be done because we're seeing all of this miscommunication from different angles he's gonna he's gonna um Tula is gonna have to take a page out of what's the guy named Baker Mayfield

he's gonna have to take a page out of Baker Mayfield book just play ball bro and when and when you do well, just shut your mouth. I mean, you can't blame Frank Smith. Even though I would love to, I would say, you know, probably they just lost because he used to coach for the charges, and they know the way he thinks. So sometimes you're playing against people that just know you, and this was just one

of those games. So I think he just got to play ball and shut his mouth and lead by example. And if you lose the locker room, one of the things you got to do is just like you lose a family or you lose anybody that's not listened to you. You got to go back to those people and ask them, what would it take for you to follow me again? That's the hardest part to do as a leader when you've lost the leadership. You got to go and pause, fall on the sword as the king and say, what do I have to do to get this leadership back? And some people are going to tell you what you have to do.

it may be hard to hear, but you can turn those things around, but you got to have to be willing to ask the hard question. Okay. And then Arabia, then Cam. Yeah, he better be careful because nobody is bigger than the program. And if he's not careful pointing the finger at this person and that person in leadership, they might be like, all right, have a seat. You're not happy.

You don't, you know, you think we're doing such a good, a bad job. Have a seat. And Zach Wilson, you're in. Or we're going to give Quinn Ewers, hey, you're in. And don't let whoever come. and for you do a better job than you and run this offense better than you and be more efficient than you because now you just shot yourself

in the foot. So point the finger if you want to and find out that you are not bigger than the Miami Dolphins program and that they will continue without you. To answer your question, straight off stat, what they can do is win. When you win,

it doesn't matter. It's a bunch of people that play with each other that didn't like each other. Kobe and Shack change pork with each other. They won three straight championships and then when they didn't win that next year, the niggins said, okay, it's time to split this up, this year. It's coming to a head to where this shit might not

going to work anymore. When you win, it solves everything in sports. Whether you like somebody or don't like somebody, it's just the way it is. And I think Mace gave some really great advice especially if you're in that situation. That was

outstanding advice. Because you go to, you lost the locker them and you go back to people you know you lost and at least have a conversation with them and they tell you what you can do to fix it that's a beginning they may tell you to fuck off ain't nothing you can do nitty you don't burn this bridge nigga and ain't no boats ain't nothing you could do but that's at least to start to try and figure it out and then last one before we wrap the chiefs so the chiefs beat the lions 30 to 17 Arabia are the chiefs back in the groove. How did you feel about the outcome of that game?

I just want to say congratulations to the Chiefs for the win, not just for the win, but for playing a perfect zero penalty game. Do you know that since 2019, there have been over 3,380 individual team performances. Of those over 3,300 game, number of team performances, half of that as the games, 12 of those have zero penalty games. Two of the 12, the 12, belong to the Chiefs. And you can look at that two different ways. You can look at it with the narrative of, oh, these have their reps in their pocket, blah, blah, blah.

Or you can look at it like they're coming off of a loss to the Jags where they had 13 penalties for over 100 yards. Andy Reid coached those guys up, cleaned their act up, and the fact that they had zero penalties all game stem from the fact that they were coming off a loss with 13 penalties. I'm choosing to do the latter and not go the conspiracy route,

but do with that information, which you will. So congrats to Kansas City for having a zero penalty game. Yeah, I just think the boys are back. I don't know how else they explain it to y'all. You know, as the weeks go on, I think this is nobody's league right now. But like you guys said, it's going to bore down to coaching. And we just have one of the better coaches. That's what it's going to bore down to.

And not to mention when we're playing the way we're playing now, if we just keep it up, I could see us eight and three, you know, seven and three. And then we're just going to take off and then we'll look back at this and say, we gave niggins a head start. Like I told you, we was just giving everybody a head start. So I'm glad everybody got to got the running with the Steelers and everything. But we'll see you guys in January, you know. I'm going to go with Arabia, with Arabia's analysis and not take the ladder.

I seen after the game, they showed four penalties that they didn't call on the Chiefs. And that was off the Hummel. That was as soon as the game was over. They showed four penalties. They didn't show with the Chiefs. But you know who was in the house? Taylor Swift back. When Taylor Swift back, this is what happens.

He was back in the building. They kept show her all game. And Chiefs did have one penalty. Come on, my nigger. Come on, now one penalty. Come on, my nigga. They showed four penalties. five minutes after the game was over that they didn't show.

I mean, that they didn't call. It was dead obvious. So, yeah, the chiefs are back in the NFL's pocket or vice versa. How would you want to put it? And they're like, if Taylor Swift is going to be coming back around, normally this is the way things need to be. So, no, I'm not going to congratulate them or having a penalty-free game because it really wasn't a penalty-free game.

But if the rough don't call it, the rough don't call it. We've seen it. They just didn't call it. To add to that really quick, Taylor Swift and Caitlin Clark. Yeah, I see Caitlin Clark up there too. It's getting white about a minute. Oh, man. The ice is colder.

That's, yeah. That's your ice. It's not my eyes. It's your ice. What? The ice is colder. Yours. And I love that for you.

I just said it to trigger you. That's all I did. I'm not triggered. Yeah, you were triggered. I love that for you. I saw it, PT. Was she triggered? Put the caramel on PT.

Did it trigger her PT? Yes or no, Pt. You ain't got no reason in law. Talking about cold eyes. She's triggered. She's triggered. She's triggered. It's cold, huh?

You ready. And I love that for you. Enjoy your stay. No. Realistically. Enjoy your stay. I just said it because I knew it would get you upset. I wanted to see how you responded.

I'm not upset. You responded a little irritable, but it's okay. Smiling means I'm irritable? No, you just, your disposition, your body language, it told on you a little bit. I don't think so. Okay. It's something about when you said Caitlin, it's just, I don't know. It's something about when you said Caitlin.

You got the Vegas jerseys on. Yeah, you have the dynamic duo. Yeah, not me. I'm just for the Chiefs. I'm not for all the other stuff. Okay, you don't come with what's part of it. No, it's not a part of it. It's just like I'm not a part of it.

It's just the players on the field. Okay, it's not a part of it. People off the field don't win the game. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Obviously they do. But if, yeah, if Taylor's paying them, then pause, then that's another story.

I don't have knowledge on that Taylor's paying the reps, but I know we're not paying the rest. Nobody said it's not about Taylor paying the ruffs. It's about Taylor being there and getting the most ratings for the NFL to get more money. That's what it's about. Taylor Swift comes when Taylor Swift is there, I remember last year we read the ratings.

I don't remember off the top of my head. But it's a significant difference when Taylor Swift is there as opposed to when she's not there. And the NFL ain't dumb. They know that. We know that. If we know that, you know that. They're doing analytics all day.

Keep showing that bitch and keep bringing the Swifties over. Pardon me, I don't want to call her bitch. She's a fiancé, man. Keep showing that lady. See, now this is what I'm saying. So in the Super Bowl, when she's there and we lose the way we lose, how does that play into this narrative? same way that you say it takes the quarterback

hold on hold on hold on it plays into the narrative murder because that's the last game of the season they can do a fair one there's no game next week it's no game till next year we don't need them anymore until next year I was going to say to Mesa's logic

that happens the same way a quarterback can lose even if they hit two and fifty yards before the other one. So at that point, things happen that are out of people's control. It's just going to happen that way. Yeah, it's an anomaly. Exactly. Exactly. Okay, y'all. I'm glad the switchup is crazy around here. It's not a switchup. Aces fans, all this. Today was too much. For us, for us, for real. Again, shout out the Aces, but y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. Arabian, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you so much for having me and get used to these double-heder Monday night football games

because the NFL sold more broadcasting rights to Disney. So ESPN and ABC are going to show more games on Monday Night Football. There you have it. No, you're absolutely right. I just didn't feel y'all teams was important enough to watch. That's fine. And with that being said, Thank y'all for watching.

And as always, it is what it is. and drive.