IT IS WHAT IT IS - CAM MEETS HIS NI-AMORE, BILLS MAFIA GOES CRAZY & TAYLOR SWIFT GETTING PEOPLE FIRED?!| IIWII EP#71

Episode Date: December 18, 2023

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Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Florida, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They will also match your first deposit up to a hundred dollars and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm treasure Wilson, AKA stat baby along with your host Mace and cam.

What's up murder killer was good. Shit man. A little hangover. I'm good though. Yeah, man. I'm all right, man. You on fire on the internet, man. I don't ask for this. I don't want to end the night, man. I don't ask for this. I don't ask for any of this, man. You know? So I've heard. I've heard, man.

I've heard. You've heard? Yeah. How did it go, man? My God. I don't know what you're talking about exactly. Did you get it? Did you get the second base?

First base? Did I get what, though? I'll talk to you. Are we talking about Neymar? Neymar. Yeah, listen. You're in the blogs, Jeff. Yeah, listen, man.

Don't mess that one up. I'm not with Ne-Amour. It's because I see people talking. People are doing exactly what you're saying. Yo, Cam, don't fumble this. Look, I've met my Ne-Amour. She was very was very very cool yeah

I seen actually she brought it to me and I he said my brother loves you

I'm like oh Nia Moore what's up she's like so she says you're funny you're hilarious yeah

I said yo but I'm you know I got there yeah so I said but what up she said

I said did you see my DM but you didn't open and she said I seen it I said what she thought about she said nah that was fly that was fly I said, did you see my DM? It was in the opening. She said, I see that. I said, what you thought about it? She said, no, that was fly.

That was fly. I said, all right. OK. And we, that's it, people. We took a couple pictures. Because the rumors in the street is that LeBron set it up. What you mean? And that's what the streets are saying.

What they, I mean, well. The streets are saying they invited Nia to the party and then doubled back and invited you to get back at you, doco. Oh, niggas use me. That's what the streets are saying. Oh, niggas use me. Sniper University. Give you the sniper's report.

Sniper on another level. Hey, man. Like, okay, we got a problem? Oh, yeah. Oh, they lined me. They lined both of us, actually. Yeah, they lined you. Hey, yo, look, line me, baby.

Line me. If that's the case, thank you. I appreciate. I don't think LeBron did it, but that's what the streets is saying. Well, if there's any truth to it, thank you. I appreciate. I don't think LeBron did it, but that's what the streets is saying. Well, if it's any truth to it, thank you. I appreciate it. But I see a lot of don't fumble. Look, I'm not with me along.

I've met her. She did not give me her number. I actually gave her my number, but she didn't give me hers. We have not spoke. We took a couple. You gave her your number? Yeah, I gave her my number, man. That's different for you,

Cam. It is. It is. But she's a different type of female. You know. Matter of fact, matter of fact, I have found some shit real quick. This ain't no rhymes or nothing. I think, well, where is it? Damn, I know I

had it, but damn, I don't know what I did with it, but I'll find it damn I know I had it but damn I don't know what I did with it but I'll find it I'll actually send it over to what's my nigga Nick to play

if I if I could find it I don't know what the hell I did with it but but it was something fucking it's just

what did you think about it you like Nia for Cam oh I love it I was in the comments like yes yeah thanks man put me on on the res game What did you think about it? You like Neil for Cam? Oh, I love it. I was in the comments like, yes! Thanks, man. Put me on the risk. I support it 1,000%.

Thank you so much, man. Heard you was out the last couple nights. How'd it go? Kanye, what's your shit? Yeah, I'm like in the background of, you know, some things. Hold on, hold on. I found what I was looking for. It's right here.

Hold on. I had my childhood celebrity crush was Neil. some things. Hold on, hold on. I found what I was looking for is right here. Hold on. I had my childhood so everybody's crush was Neil. I had my childhood so everybody's crush was Neil. I don't know what that was.

Somebody said that to me and said I was wrong. I didn't know this. As long as I knew him, that must have been, that was interior because he never expressed that to me. So I didn't know that. But look, we're not up here to make a spectacle of things.

Hopefully she reaches out if she doesn't. It was just a pleasure, good enough meeting her. And that's it, man. I don't, it was just a pleasure. Good enough meeting her. And, and that's it, man. I don't need you people talking about Kim. If you see me out somewhere with somebody else and anything else, you fucked up.

Why you do that? Yo, y'all crazy. Cause y'all people are crazy, man. Um, it's nothing. I don't think the people is who you got to worry about. Is you doco.

I ain't worried about that. Okay. That's the last thing I'm worried about. I ain't worried about that. Okay. That's the last thing I'm worried about. I ain't worried about that at all. I go courtside with him. I pull up courtside. At a Rockets game? Yeah.

I forgot, yeah, this is Teddy University, you know? Yeah, you ready to strike. Forgot where U umbrella I come from. Yeah. And Stat was in the background on a few things this weekend. How you doing, Stat?

I had a great weekend. You know, networking. That's what it was. But yeah, but on another note um everybody uh wanted it was so many people happy birthday to rich fall there were so many people there that said so you murdered congratulations uh stat as well they love y'all i mean from it was uh i can't even name everybody i was me and kevin hart talked for about 25 minutes or, you know, just about the show and what he's doing. Like, the shit was kind of funny

because it was an 80s, 90s party, so niggas had on troop jackets and all type of shit. So, Kevin Hart, we was talking and he was telling, you know, he's like, yo, man, I love the show and what you guys are doing. And, you know, you guys are being yourself unapologetically and you have to sugarcoat it and still do what you do.

Yo, by the way, I got 15 bricks in the trunk if you need it. And then go back to something. Like, niggas was in the 80s zone out there to when they was really thinking they was drug dealers and all type of shit.

But shout out to Kenya. I mean, I'm about to say Kenya. Yeah, they said somebody saw you and walked out. You care to elaborate? Sugar, tell you a few words. I don't want to make nobody uncomfortable. All the calls came back to me. Yo, your man just saw a killer and walked out.

Yeah, yeah. I felt kind of bad about that. I'm like, damn. Because you know what's crazy? I was thinking to myself, Suge made a great point. Because I won't say who, but I don't want people seeing me

and feel like they got to leave because we're doing our job up here. So I won't elaborate on it. But damn, bro. God damn. I ain't trying to make niggas walk out. We just doing the job. It ain't, you know,

you got to have a conversation. You actually pull me to the side. Be like, yo, what's going on? Just don't get too crazy. Or you could play better. That's a great solution. Yeah. The solution to not liking it is what it is.

It's play better, man. Yeah. We're trying to give honest commentary with satire, but honest commentary. So even an exaggeration or anything we do is to shed light on the truth, you know? Yeah, because you know,

you know, like, Shug, he's actually is here today. He doesn't come a lot, but pause. But it was funny

because there was a lot of people in there that are on the Atlanta Hawks. Like, Rich Paul, a lot of people, a lot of money

was in the building. And Shug said, Draymond Green can't come to this joint tonight, right? He said, niggas ain't high. Niggas said, Suge said, Suge said, niggas told Rich, if Draymond come in tonight, I'm leaving. I'm telling you that right now.

We don't need them to get a drink and they accidentally slap me by accident. Suge said, he'd type and pull out a line of coke and say, I'm suspended anyway. So, yeah, and I thought about it.

I said, I don't know if, I wouldn't have been uncomfortable, but who knows if somebody else would have been uncomfortable. It was, I would have liked to see

Draymond Green, but it was cool. It was very cool. Shout out to Braun. Braun was in there with his wife, very cool. Shout out to Braun. Braun was in there with his wife Savannah. Big shout out to Braun. He showed much love.

Keep doing what you're doing, homie. Ohio was in the building, nigga. In Ohio, we was deep. I'm talking about all parts.

Niggas arguing about what part of Ohio and what's better in there, man. I don't know if y'all would have felt that comfortable with that much Ohio niggas arguing about what part of Ohio and what's better in there, man. I don't know if y'all would have felt that comfortable with that much Ohio niggas and that much money in the building at one time, man.

But yeah, big shout out to Rich Paul. Happy birthday, man. Well, I'm happy everybody had a great weekend. We're going to talk football. We are now joined with our football analyst, OJ. How you guys doing? I'm straight.

What is that? OJ. How you guys doing? How's things? What is that? Go on. Look at the girl. Hey, Cam. Yes. Our mutual friend sent me that picture with you and Nia. Oh, okay.

And he wondered how I felt about it. Nia and my daughter were like best friends forever. And Nia was like a niece to me so i don't know if i was happy seeing you uh you know going out with him when knowing that you go out with others i i didn't go out with her i met her at a party i i actually wanted to go out with her if i get confirmation that things will go more seriously with me and nia then possibly I may put things to the side with other people. But right now, it's just a photo we took, a couple good laughs, a couple whispers that I won't talk about. And we'll see what happens from there.

But you're right. Our mutual friend did explain this to me this morning because I didn't know I was on TMZ. He called me about it and said, Kim, I see you. uh this morning because i didn't know i was on tmz he called me about it and said camera sees you and he told me that your daughter was best friends with uh nia for a while and off the off the camera i was going to talk to you about this to try and get the number for me now you put me on blast saying that you don't like it man i thought I thought we was going to have a cool conversation about it. Oh, how you go from grand... Oh, oh.

And Nia does what Nia does. Okay. Good girl. Good girl. Oh, how you go from granddaddy issues to you don't like this for him. Oh. Like family. Nia for years was like family.

Oh, that's like, I don't know. We can't call it pocket watching, but it's definitely got cock blocking. This is straight up cock blocking. Talk about my bills and my 49ers.

Oh, niggas ain't no granddaddy. You know it. Nah, because we would never disrespect. This is offside. Yeah, we would never disrespect a family member now, but this is not blood related. This is offside. I'm going to throw the flag on the play on this.

You got to throw a flag on this, man. Oh, how you doing today, man? Hold on. Before we start, hold on. Before we start, let's get a solo. I see some new, what is that, a Bill's pillow? What is that over there? Is that a Bill's pillow?

Over your right shoulder. It look like a Bill's coat rack. That's a Bill's, you know, a wood, you know, my woods. Oh, that's golf. Oh, that's golf. This nigga. Oh, my God. Come on. Oh, my three woods, my driver. Oh, that's golf. Oh, my God. Come on. Oh, my God.

Oh, man. What are you talking about? Everything in this house is bills of 49ers. You may know this right now. Even this. This is Ralph Wilson. He was the original owner of the bills. He was the owner when I took over the team.

He's gone now. But I honoring him. Watching what my Bills did to those guys. No, your Cowboys. Your Cowboys. That was your Cowboys. That was your 85 bands. Oh, give me a break.

I think it's about the guy who watches football with us on Sunday that always shows up with their cowboy hat and their cowboy jerseys. When the Cowboys beat a team that hadn't won a game, they're saying they're going to the Super Bowl. They're going to the Super Bowl. They weren't saying that today. Oh, you said they were going to Super Bowl week two.

Oh, I did not say that. You said they were the 85 Bears. Oh, do you remember that? They looked like them way back in the beginning of the season. But let's face the facts. They normally do not beat teams with winning records. And they got it handed to them today. The way I see it is they don't play well outdoors.

When they're at home and they're playing indoors, they really play well. But when they're playing outdoors and the weather is, you know, inclement weather, they don't play that well. And it was raining today. It didn't look good. It didn't hurt the bills. But the Cowboys had a lot of trouble today. Well, Mace picked the Cowboys to win, so yesterday when we were –

Yeah, we was making our picks this morning. Okay, we'll say that. Mace jumps around. Oh, that was pause. He was on fire the last couple of weeks. I thought he was going to continue his journey every time. Well, you give it to him. He played great against Philly. But how many Philly defensive players were hurt?

What, five, six? He has not played great against good teams. five, six. He has not played great against good teams. You know, 49ers, Bills, or winning teams he has not really played great against. And you certainly couldn't call today's game a great game. Now, I still think they're going to make the playoffs. And I think what normally happens when they make the playoffs, which seems a lot like what happened today,

will still happen. But they're – I mean, they got good players. They're a good team. The Bills are fast, just like they're fast. And you saw it today. They don't dominate teams that are fast and physical. They don't dominate those teams. are fast and physical. They don't dominate those teams.

Yeah, I think this proves, this actually proves Dak Prescott is proving everybody right about him about being a game manager. When you think, when I see stats like this, just 134 yards, passing yards, and no touchdowns, and interception, this is horrible for me. You know, I'm from Titletown. Listen, Mace, this morning you was – pardon me. Sorry.

I'm a little saucy. I got my days. I'm sorry. At least I can tell you I'm saucy. I don't have a problem waking up. What I say is this, Mace. You was all Dak Prescott yesterday morning. No, I was trying to give him a shot pause because we were so, you know,

dealing with him, you know, without kid gloves on, you know. So I figured he got on a run. Maybe he'll keep it up on this because this would have been the game to prove, I said, that he's a real player. But it proves that he's not a real player. Why would you give him that opportunity? I knew he wasn't going to get it. Yeah, you know, they say you give him the benefit of the doubt,

but I learned that on Sunday. You know, there's no benefit of doubting. That's what they was talking about in church. There's no benefit in doubting. Well, you got to give Purdy credit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Stop, stop, stop, stop. Oh, no, no. Stop, stop, stop. We get the time out.

Are we going to get the Purdy, man? No, no, no. We can't just jump the Purdy, man. Oh, we went down. Oh, we get the Purdy. Get some blueberry juice, yo. Oh, you just jumped from one game. We're going to get the Purdy. You cannot go from Dak to Purdy. We're going to get the Purdy. We

promise you Purdy's coming up. Can we stick to this game? This is jet lag. Look at him. This is jet lag. It's the 49ers and the Bills. It's the 49ers and the Bills. Anyways.

Okay. But what about, okay, let's talk about your Bills then. We just shit all over the Cowboys. What about your Bills? I mean, they didn't have the best offensive game. i think the weather had a lot to do with the game how do you think that they looked i mean they smashed down dallas and you made a great point they may not play good in weather but how do you think they looked at it as a team overall today i thought they looked great okay i thought i look i'm not going to tell you that the Cowboys don't have talent.

The Cowboys had talent. But you said they didn't do well. What did they score today? No, they did well. I said Josh Allen didn't have the most amazing game today. No, he made some great plays. He made some great plays. But Josh Allen is going to be Josh Allen.

He's going to make incredible plays, and then he's going to throw the ball away once in a while. That's what he's done since he's been in the league. Today I thought he did better than most games. Today I thought he played a really good game. Okay. I can't recall that he threw an interception today. No, no. No, but he had 94 yards. He can't recall. Did he throw an interception today? No, no.

No, but he had 94 yards. He only had 94 yards. That's what I talked about. He didn't even crack 100 yards. That's why I was asking. Well, he won. It's all about winning. Yo, more blueberry juice for you oh man

listen I I ain't seen you smile this much since about week six man big smiles on the day you got a Bills win 49ers first of all Murda I don't know I have no idea why the golf clubs are even in the set

just to let you know it's the Bills golf. I tried to put everything bills in this room. Yeah. I see the helmet, everything. All right, man. We ain't look good this year week, baby. This year week. So before we even go to the next question, I'm just curious. What do you have to say to the people who had Dak Prescott in the MVP race? What do you have to say to the people who had Dak Prescott in the MVP race? I can't argue that he has performed this year that would put him in the race. I didn't think he would win it.

But, you know, I think Purdy. I actually think a running back, McCaffrey, should be in it. And I definitely think Tariq Hill should be in it. I hope getting hurt and not being able to play today hurts his run for 2,000 yards. Oh, oh. But that man, if he got 2,000 yards, he should have it. Oh, she didn't ask you about Tyree Hill, no running backs. She asked you about what do you think about Dak Prescott being in the MVP race, not who you think should win the MVP.

I answered that. I said, I can't argue that he, earlier in the year, most of the year, he played like he should have been in that argument, but I don't think he's in that argument now. I'm going to say this to the organizations,

the Bills organization and the 49 organization. You know, OJ's my uncle. I think y'all should try to win more often because he got the Bruce Leroy glow today. It's not as if me or O is just shining today. He looks healthy.

And then not saying you don't always look healthy, but it's a different type of light glowing. Bruce Leroy. Yeah, Bruce Leroy right now, man. No, it's that my fantasy team did well today. And my two life, well, not lifelong, 49ers lifelong, but the team I'm in the Hall of Fame with, the Buffalo Bills, were very impressive today.

So I'm a happy man today. That's great to hear. Look, I'll answer the question even though this was OJ's question. Get that the fuck out of here. Pack them on up. This was the opportunity for him possibly. To prove something.

Yeah. You know, I'm just giving Mace all the time because we, you know, we was just going against each other on pictures today. But he gave, all jokes aside, he gave Zach the benefit of the doubt. And I said to, you know, it was really two sides of the coin because Mace made a great point on saying, this is the game that Dak could move into a league company when people mentioned the best quarterbacks in the league. And on the other side of the coin,

what I said was that this is the game where the bills need to make a statement if they want to make the playoffs because they've, they've been on and off all season. So we were just debating on that. But at the end of the day, Dak, you had your chance. Yeah. Not just Mason, but a couple people gave you the benefit of the doubt. And you fumbled.

You fumbled the ball. And let me say this. Let me say this. Not only did you fumble, like Cam said, if Jerry Jones doesn't let you know the next move he does, he has every right to do that. So remember in the beginning of the year, we was like, Jerry Jones don't got to tell niggas who he's bringing to the team.

This will be one of those situations. He don't got to tell you, you out of here. I will be honest with you, period. I think anybody on that team since 1997, he ain't got to tell nothing to. They don't even win Jerry Jones shit the way he has to be obligated to tell you anything. Now, if you're an elite player, maybe he could confide in you and ask you,

what you think? Do you think you can work with him or think you can work with him or what about if we bring him in? But he doesn't have to tell anybody what he's doing. This is a guy who people always cry and say, oh, you're just giving Ezekiel Elliott a long-term contract. Oh,

Dak Prescott deserves a long-term contract. Oh, Tony Romo, or this person, or that person, or Des Bryant. Look, he keeps paying after y'all cry and y'all don't deliver this man a championship. I'm starting to be... Don't get mad when Jerry Jones, his niggas want to come on, my nigga.

Yeah, this game was definitely a come on, my nigga moment. Yeah, absolutely. So now let's talk the 49ers. They won again, beating the Cardinals 45 to 29. Brock Purdy said he believes Christian McCaffrey, OJ to basically what you were saying should be MVP because he does everything for us. So first thoughts about the 49ers and then thoughts on Christian McCaffrey potentially being an MVP candidate based off of Brock Purdy's words.

There we go. Well, I've been clear. Okay. How are these guys? I don't care how these guys try to mess up what I say. Say it again. You've been clear.

I've been clear. There's no more talented team in football than the 49ers. They have no real weaknesses. They got a little bit of everything. Now, I give Arizona – was it Arizona? Yeah, I give them credit today. They played them pretty well for a while. But as I've said, when teams play in the same conference and they play twice, normally that second time they play is going to be a tougher game.

And that's what that was for a while. But the 49ers wear people out. They get worn out as the game goes on. Debo is going to do his thing with two touchdowns today for your boy devo did his thing uh a kiddo was terrific today and uh and look pretty pretty did what purdy does he gets the ball to the open guy and the defense. Defense played real well when they had to. So I don't think anybody argues with me.

I know Cam agreed with me last week that there's no more talented team in the NFL than the 49ers. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I would just say when you look at the Cardinals, football is simple. You're not going to win if all you get is one touchdown and the other quarterback get four. It's just math, science.

You have a firm grasp on the obvious, buddy. That's what I'm supposed to do that's why I proceeded by saying that listen it's not supposed to be that complicated you know

it's actually real obvious nigga Oto murder yo wow you really know what two plus two means. You killed it with that. Yo, he told you the nice way. You have a firm... Hey, yo, I'm stealing that, though. You have a firm grasp on the obvious, my nigga.

Like, oh, if you get four touchdowns, another person doesn't, of course you're going to win. Yo, Murda, he trying to play intelligently. It's not like the Cardinals is really a great team. So, I mean, it ain't much to say. If your one team is stacked and one team is pretty much horrible. I like that.

They beat the Cowboys. They beat the Cowboys. I know, but they are 3-11, right? So that is the obvious. They're not a great team. I'm just telling you that. The team's played for us twice. That second time is normally a pretty tough game.

I'm stealing that one all the way here. You have a firm grasp for us on the obvious, brother. That was good for TV. That was a sack. But as an expert, they are 3-11. You got a team that's 3-11 playing a team that's 11-3. What would you expect to happen if they played twice? Okay.

Wow. I like y'all. All you know of y'all two is finish with each other. I like the smoke he's coming with, but good thing I know what I'm talking about. So you're saying he has a firm grasp on the obvious. Yeah, he has a firm grasp on the obvious. The team is 3-11, playing a team that's 11-3. So no matter how many times LeBron plays Julius Randle,

he should win every time, right? I'm just looking. I'm just over here minding my business. Because it seems like both of y'all have a firm grasp on the obvious. Both of you guys. I didn't know who was going to win the debate on who has to...

That's why I started by saying, you know, I'm a firm believer in math and science. I went to school for science and math. I'm actually a genius. We went to the same school, Mace. Hey, I took a test to get in. You played basketball to get in. Mace, you got recruited, too.

You went to junior Richmond it was a zone school coach Ford came and got both of us you can sit up here with your jacket and glasses we both got recruited to go to you did not take a test

I'm not going to let you go with that let you slide. We both was in the scene. We both was in the scene. I'm sorry. Were you guys looking at painted shoes earlier? Where we going? Oh, that was, oh no, that was Mace ordered some sneakers.

They was. This is what my daughter-in-law did for me. Check that out. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, you guys give me your shoe size and I'm going to get a cup prepared for y'all. Crispy. Those was crispy.

Nice. Why they got to be the Bills colors though? It's 32. It's Bills number 32. You know why they got to be the Bills. Let me ask OJ and Mace a question. Who would you guys rather have not starting the team

or anything like that today? Today, and I may know OJ's answers, but I may not. If you needed a quarterback today to start the season, not, you know, not necessarily franchise, same age, everything,

who would you rather have, Brock Purdy or Dak Prescott? Oh, come on. Purdy. I'm taking Purdy. Purdy played a lot. Yeah, I would definitely go with Purdy. All the guys were together. With him and Deebo and Williams and Tackle,

when they were on the field together, he hasn't lost a game yet. And let me give some expertise since he says I have a firm grasp on the obvious. O.J., the guy Purdy actually seemed to be getting better every game. That's the point that you really got to pay attention to. Some people are on a decline and some people look like they're going to. Purdy is one of those quarterbacks that look like he's going to be better by next year because his confidence is growing.

Yeah, I want to give Purdy a bunch of props. You know, Purdy is one of them players that were, I believe, one or two players away from not even being in the act. He could have went to any team. He wasn't going to be drafted. So, yeah, I want to give him a bunch of credit. I don't know. I don't know what you call him now. You may call him Mr. Relevant. They just call him

Mr. Irrelevant. Just early in the year, O was calling Purdy a game manager. Oh, okay. Since he got a grass on the obvious. Yeah! Let's go! Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. Is that true? Would you call him a game manager at the beginning of the year? Well, in the beginning of the year, I said if you give him. Just yes or no. If you give him the players that he has, he's as good as anybody. Is what I said. We're going to have to go to the table on that.

Because I don't remember. I don't remember that slogan. So I need clarification. Are you guys all in agreement that Brock Purdy should be the MVP? Of the season? Yes. Because that was basically, he was sayingdy should be the MVP of the season? Yes. Cause that was basically, he was saying it should be Christian McCaffrey,

but who do you guys think should have that title? Well, as of right now, I'm ready to give him MVP right now. Now it's too early for that. Yeah. I think it's a few games left and I think it's other players, not just on the 49ers that need to be looked at,

but if I had to pick somebody on the 49ers, I think I would agree with Brock Purdy and go with Christian McCaffrey if we're only going on 49er players. I believe he's ahead of Purdy because, listen, not all running backs could catch as good as he can.

You know, O has a particular name for them. What do you call these running backs that catch? Let's get at it. I don't remember. I don't remember either. They're kind of a hybrid. I forget. O had a great name for them. You have guys that

they can do both. They're the name. I don't remember what he said. Off the top of my head, but I just think Christian McCaffrey is a Swiss Army knife. He can do a lot of different things. So I- Two skills, I mean, he has it all. Yeah, so- He blocks, he blocks for Purdy.

Yeah, exactly, that's why I said a Swiss Army knife. He's a ball, and he runs the ball. He's gonna be right near the top in rushing this year. Yeah, but if I- But don't forget, I mean, And he runs the ball. He's going to be right near the top in rushing this year. Yeah. But don't forget, I mean, Tariq Hill, if he comes back, if he can get that 2,000 yards that he's been chasing, boy, that's for a wide receiver to get 2,000 yards and I don't know how many touchdowns. That's quite impressive.

Well, just so we know, I picked it up real quick. Just so we know, they're leading that in Vegas with the odds for MVP. I'll give you guys the top five. Brock Purdy is leading. And Dak Prescott's number two. Lamar Jackson's number three. Jalen Hurts is number four. Christian McCaffrey is number three. Jalen Hurts is number four. Christian McCaffrey is number five.

It's pretty interesting because even as a quarterback, Purdy doesn't have the best stats. So it's kind of interesting just to think about. He's probably like number four in stats as a quarterback. Just, you know, stating the obvious. Y'all two today, yeah. Just stating the obvious. Y'all through the day, yeah. Yeah.

Since we stating the obvious. Well, this conversation will be continued because I want to know you guys' thoughts as the season progresses, but let's move on to the Dolphins versus the Jets. The Dolphins crushed the Jets, winning 30-0. The Jets. The Dolphins crushed the Jets, winning 30-0.

The Jets are officially eliminated from the playoffs for the 13th straight year. This is the longest active drought in America's four major sports. What change needs to happen to the Jets? OJ first. I like the coach. I'm going to tell you that. I do like him.

He coaches a great defense, but they need an offensive line guys. I don't care if they're telling me that Rogers is coming back, that he's gonna be eligible this coming week. Anybody is playing quarterback in the Jets backfield is gonna get beat up. And he'll be running for his life. And even Rodgers, if Rodgers decides to play, which I don't think he will, but if he decides to play, he ain't going to look too much better than the guys that have been playing.

That offensive line is horrible. Yeah. No, seriously. Oh, man. Great point. You know, when I was talking to Tito's team. Yeah. Tito said it looked like a setup. Tito said, yo, I don't know if they

paid the offensive line or whatever, but everybody was under distress and it was terrible. And he was really upset about it being that he's a Jets fan. You know, this is another game that I picked the Jets to win

because I was like, Zach Wilson was talking shit and he was like, yo, I don't give a fuck what's the worst they could do is bench me. And they did.

Yeah. I was waiting to see that yeah yeah he got beside himself so they said what's the worst

you could do is bench me and they benched them so don't get too fly to where you think you can't

get benched um there's a couple things I have to say. Well, congrats to the Dodgers. I mean, the Dodgers, the Dolphins, of course. A couple of things I have to say about this. It's not really about the game.

It's a few things about what OJ just said, because I was thinking about it as well. I don't know if Aaron Rodgers is coming back or not coming back, but I wouldn't risk it and come back. But this isn't even about if he does come back. The fact that he's eligible to come back is crazy because now what they're going to do

is put more pressure on more athletes to say, if you got an Achilles problem, you need to go see the doctor that Aaron Rodgers got. There's no way he's 39 years old and he was out for three and a half months and now he's able to play again. Why you need two years to come back from an Achilles injury?

So it's a couple of things. They got the best doctors, Aaron Rodgers, that is. Or this wasn't an Achilles injury. And I don't know which one it is, but it's crazy that you come back three and a half months from an Achilles. I just don't understand it. What do you think about that, Mase?

I think, number one, he definitely should not come back. I think, number two, they're definitely going to use his recovery against other people, and it's going to be to a lot of athletes' detriment because he's probably just a freak of nature, Paul, but everybody else that try to come back from an Achilles that's a hard thing to recover from many athletes are never the same

no matter what sport it is yeah because that's he's 39 you're 26 why you can't come back if Aaron Rodgers did it and that's your explosion you know that's your explosion that You know, that's your explosion. That's where you generate a lot of your speed from.

Right. So what I want to do is give Aaron Rodgers a lot of credit, period, because let's break down the timeline real quick. Before the season starts, he gives back $10, $15 million, takes a pay cut to get other players so the Jets can have good players around him. He gets this injury the first three minutes into the season. He stays around the whole time helping out Zach Wilson and others around the franchise as well as rehabilitating, getting back to where he needs to get to.

And then to be eligible to play in week 16 for a 39-year-old, this is really, really dope. Because a lot of older players would have been like, yo, give me that money and y'all figure out who else y'all can get. Wasn't selfish about that. Wasn't selfish about like I'm going to sit around home and mope about this injury. Stayed around the franchise. And then even if the Jets were good,

I agree he should not play. But if they were in a playoff hunt or even close to it, I think he might've tried to play. So Aaron Rodgers, salute to you for being 39 years old. Not even, this isn't even an age thing for me.

It's the fact you're 39, but a 25 year old wouldn't do what you're doing so big props to Aaron Rodgers and I think a lot is getting lost with this Miami Dolphins and and the Jets game because one of the running backs he um broke the record with um 20 20 touchdowns this season Mozart yeah he had 20 um touchdowns to season. Mozart. Mozart. Yeah, he had 20 touchdowns to break the single record, which was 18, which has been broken since 1984. I was waiting to tell OJ that because, you know, that's why he probably clicked off.

Oh, to let him know you ain't the only one out here. And it wasn't so obvious. And then I was going to tell him about it. So, O.J., I'm talking behind your back, but I'm on camera. So even Tua is amazing because Tua is having a similar season to Purdy.

There's the same thing as Purdy and his numbers is better than Purdy and he's only one game behind what Purdy has done. But we're talking a lot about Purdy, the same thing as Purdy, and his numbers is better than Purdy, and he's only one game behind what Purdy has done. But we're talking a lot about Purdy and not about Tua. What y'all think about that? Tua's beating him on stats. That's a great point. I think people like the story of Purdy.

I think that Tua was an elite college player. He came in with high expectations. I think he has a great story, too, because of what happened to him last year, getting injured. People were saying that he wasn't going to be able to come back. He can't get hit. He did a lot of things in the offseason, even including learning how to fall so that he doesn't hit his head. So he has a great story, too. and how to fall so that he doesn't

hit his head. So he has a great story too, but there's nothing better than the good old American white person coming out that wasn't That's what I was getting to.

Yeah, your reverse racism. Reverse racism. That, that, that, no, no disrespect to white people,

but I'm just saying like, you know, at the end of the day, let's just be realistic. Of course, at the quarterback position, you guys have been dominating for years and over the last decade or day, let's just be realistic. Of course, at the quarterback position, you guys have been dominating for years

and over the last decade or so. And, you know, not saying there wasn't people like fucking Randall Cunningham and my nigga Moon down there in Houston years ago.

It's been scattered black quarterbacks. But over the last 10 years, it's been a lot of black quarterbacks. But I didn't want to necessarily focus on quarterbacks.

I wanted to focus on there's been a lot of black quarterbacks but I didn't want to necessarily focus on quarterbacks I wanted to focus on it's been a lot of dominant black athletes period and in baseball maybe Spanish so when you get somebody white who's elite it's a big deal so and not saying that they don't deserve I think

Brock Purdy deserves all the credits so that's going to be magnified like yeah Mr. Irrelevant, he almost wasn't drafted. Now you're out here killing. Matter of fact, he never even lost a game when everybody's playing.

So I think that story's bigger than Tua's story, no matter what the stats are, because they're both winning. And it's a great point that you brought up, Mace. Mm-hmm. Okay. We're going to go to break. And when we return,

we will discuss the Patriots versus the Chiefs. She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening, me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust but she really thinking about wanting to be free why am I in this one way welcome back

so let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day tonight the Mavs will play the Nuggets underdog fantasy has Luka at 35 and a half points do you have them higher or lower Mace against the Nuggets. Underdog Fantasy has Luka at 35 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Against the Nuggets, lower. Right under that 35. He's going to be in 30, though.

I was going to say right under the 35 because this is a battle of Europe. Yeah. This is Luka against the Joker. And they like, yo, we both from overseas. We ain't come over to play no MC. This is the shit I like. You know what I'm saying?

And listen, underdog, big shout out to underdog. You know, if you deposit up to $100, they'll double your deposit. Use Code Cam. Nigga's been killing with Code Cam. They have. They really have. Use CodeCamp. Niggas been killing with CodeCamp. They have. They really have. I really need,

and listen, I'm not, it's no cap. I think it's now, I spoke to my nigga Nick. We got 12 people since they've been using CodeCamp going to the Super Bowl this year.

And it's been over, it's generated over $1.7 million using Code Camp. $250,000 there, $10,000 there. Fuck with me, my nigga. I'm a fucking gold miner. Listen, I have a song.

I have a song that says, if you ever brush shoulders with me, go play lotto nine out of 10 times you went. So every morning you brush your shoulders with me, go to Underdog and play some bad nigga. There we go. But back to what I was saying is I agree with Mason, but it's going to be right underneath. I was going to say 34, but Luka might score 37.

Look, these niggas ain't coming to this country to play no games. They left their family overseas to come play basketball in America. So you don't really see Luka taking nights off. You don't see Luka doing load management, pause to say, oh, I need to get back. These niggas is not home. The niggas will be taking days off and on. I live in America.

These niggas from overseas is not over here to play no games. The Joker been making, may take a game off here or there because nigga Joker gets beat up. He's down there in the paint. Niggas is fucking him up. You know, so lately last season, I think he missed six, seven games. This season, I think he

missed a couple games. The seasons before that, he's playing 82 games. They're not over there playing no games. So I want to say Luka for 37, but I think it'll be about 34. To answer the question, I'm going to go lower, right underneath 35. Okay. Jokic is at 50 and a half points, rebounds, and assists.

Fuck her. The dog know the nigga about to drop 50. I think he's supremely dominant in the league, but I'm not going 50. I'm not going. I'm going lower. 50 and a half points, rebounds, and assists combined. 50? 50 and a half. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going lower. 50 and a half points, rebounds, and assists combined. 50? 50 and a half, yeah.

Yeah, I'm going lower. Okay. I'm going to go actually higher. Look, he may have 33, 10 assists, 12 rebounds. He's averaging a triple-double just about. I think he's 0.2 assists underneath. So he's averaging a double- double double with points and rebounds and assists he's at 9.8 assists he's averaging I'm gonna go

higher he could be higher because if he get 25 15 that's 40 and yeah higher you're right okay and Jamal Murray is at three and a half rebounds do you have him higher or lower Mace higher okay make sure to download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too we are joined back with our football

analyst oj oj i had a question for you you ran off you know i was about to give you some pause that wasn't the obvious you know they had a running back down there in miami that broke the single game record or the single season record for 20 touchdowns. Do you know about that? Most start. You mean running touchdowns, right? Yes. Okay.

He didn't break touchdowns. I had it at one point at 23, but I think. Yeah, I know it. I know it. Don't act crazy, it. Don't act crazy, nigga. Don't act crazy with my uncle, nigga. Don't act crazy.

I'm just here to let you know. I don't just know the obvious, you know? Yeah, don't act crazy with my uncle, man. Running, and seven were receiving. I think most started as a couple of receiving touchdowns also, but I love him. I love him when he was with the Niners.

I love him when he's with Miami. I drafted him. Number one is my running back on my fantasy team. Mostard, I mean, he's a beast, man. He runs hard. I think he was a 100-meter champ in the Big 12 or the Big 10 or something back when he was in college. Yo, oh, can I say something real quick?

Yo, I'm so happy you knew all this. Mace ain't think you knew none of this shit. You went back to college, man. He thought he had your number. He thought he had your number. You didn't know he used to play at the 49ers. That's where you fucked up at. No, I got a 49er

question too. Okay, okay. And also you making this big deal about Purdy and Tua got better numbers than Purdy. And he's right there with the wins. It's 10 and 4

versus 11 and 3. And Tua numbers are better. Is this reverse racism I'm hearing from you, O? Versus 11-3 And Tua numbers are better Is this reverse racism I'm hearing from you, O? No You can have better numbers Not make you the most valuable player in the league That's

Every year That's The guy with the best numbers Is not necessarily the MBB But before you go I know we're running out of time I need you guys

We need to talk to our guy. I'm not on TV besides your but the picture and I need a shoe size. Oh, yeah. Nah, nah. Listen, those joints is tough.

Those joints is tough. I would love to wear the Air Force One OJ's Buffalo edition, man. So I'm going to definitely get our sizes over to them. But I'm so happy.

Listen, oh, you don't see, you so smooth, oh, you so smooth, you don't even realize you shut Buffer down

and take it. Because I still got questions. No, but I'm going to let you get the questions. But hold on, you ain't know going to let you get the questions. But hold on. You ain't know that nigga ran track for the Mozart. And secondly, he said because the numbers are better,

that doesn't necessarily mean it did MVP, which is both correct. Which is, I wanted to debate that, though. If you say somebody's numbers are better and they win as much as you, what are you basing the MVP on? If we got better numbers and we win the same amount of games, what's making you MVP? Are you white so you get MVP? Or is this guy is black and he got better numbers

and he win the same amount of games? Well, we agreed earlier, I believe, that the season's not over. It comes down to winning has a lot to do with it. But who wins has a lot to do with it. And it's, what, four games to go? So if we win the same amount of games, how are you better if I got better stats and we win the same amount of games? Well, it doesn't mean you make it to the championship game

and play in different conferences. It doesn't mean you're going to make it to the Super Bowl. I mean, there's a lot of teams that had the best record in football. I remember Green Bay was basically undefeated, and they took a week off, two weeks off, really, with Rodgers, and then they lost when they came back and didn't even make it to the Super Bowl. So, you know, we got to wait and see.

We got four more weeks. We'll see. Does that make sense? If I got the same many wins as you, and my stats are better than yours, how are you MVP over me? That's a valid point, right? Yeah, it is. I'm just making sure.

I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure, OJ. I ain't got blueberry juice up here. I just know this from what I know, you know? But I appreciate it. I had a season where I had the third most rushing yards ever. And I broke the... I didn't get MVP.

It happens. Was you winning though? We won nine games, I believe. Okay. And 14 game season. Hey, you talk to our buddy and get me some numbers. What was your number in basketball? I was number 11.

Mason was 22. Some days he's 15 and some days he's... No, they ripped my jersey. You forgot that. Coach ripped my jersey. Okay. Yeah, I just seen the picture one day. I'm like, when did he get 15?

Yeah, nigga ripped my jersey remember go out there do what I tell you nigga ripped my jersey like Hulk Hogan so on picture day I had the wrong jersey

our coach was on cocaine that's how strong he was our coach told us look y'all little punks don't know what I do when I get mad I get a 9mm

2 kilos of cocaine and go to Puerto Rico and do the wild thing. What kind of coach was that? Poor example. He was definitely a poor example of a coach. Real crazy stories. But OK, let's talk the Chiefs, right? The Patriots lost another game this time to the Chiefs, 27-17. Do you think the Chiefs are one of the biggest threats?

OJ first. No, I don't. I think they got the best quarterback overall in football, but I don't think they're a threat this year. I think those wide receivers, the day we saw it, they're dropping passes all over the place. So I think because every year

they seem to change all their wide receivers, this year it didn't work for them. So I don't see them as a threat. Now that's another one of those conversations, though, where people would ask, if you're not even the best at your position, how are you the MVP? But I'm going to let it go. Pause. I'm going to let Cam talk. But that's, you know, inquiring minds will want to know.

Well. That's on the sales. Sound like I want to respond. Yeah. No, I don't say it's MVP I just said if you were drafting the quarterback

of all the quarterbacks in football I don't think anybody wouldn't draft Patrick Mahomes okay Mason's just so mad you knew that nigga

ran track he wants to he wants to he wants to start an argument with you you look at him I'm not tripping off track because I told everybody

that was the cheat code in the beginning of the season right that track was the way people are actually better athletes so I said that

early in the year well the thing about it is that OJ was actually a track star as well so you know we knew that coming is that OJ was actually a track star as well. So, you know, we knew that coming in when our analyst

was actually a track star. I know, but I was the first one to say it on camera. Well, we had an example of it. We didn't necessarily have to. We didn't have to say it. You see what I'm saying? Oh, thank you.

Go look it up on camera. You know. The question is, is the Chiefs a threat? I think that as long as you all looking up on camera you know the question is is the Chiefs a threat I think that as long as you have Patrick Mahomes

on the field it's always a threat yeah and that's just my opinion are they looking elite like they've

been looking the last few years not as elite but it's kind of like my you know Patrick Mahomes's kind of like my, you know, Patrick Mahomes is kind of like my Steph Curry of the NFL.

And I know Golden State is having a poor year this year, but when they have a decent team, as long as you got a Steph Curry, in my opinion, you have a chance. And that's just how I feel about the Chiefs. I think they still have a chance. Let me take a look real quick. And obviously, obviously, oh, I'm going to just be straight up with you and Keller right now. If they catch like pause three of these three of these passes with 12 and we will be 12 and three. This is not what we're talking about is a matter of those wide receivers

catching the balls. They were perfectly placed in the end zone on at least three of those games. Now, I know you don't win off... I know you was going to say that, but I'm saying when you think of this team being a threat, they are definitely a super threat

because we would really be like 12-3 right now. That's where we should be. The thing about it, O, is that he has a grasp for the obvious. If you could, if Patrick Mahomes can't throw and catch the ball, you have to catch the ball. I'm basically saying it's not

like this team, like when people talk about them not playing well, these are just three freak accidents. This is not like they're playing horrible. Yo, bro, Kevin Durant, if he wore size 14 instead of size 16, they would've went to the fucking championship

the year the Bucs won. He stepped on the line with a piece of his toe. We could say if to a lot of shit. I get that, but he didn't step on that line three games in a row. At the end of the day, that one game mattered. Look, the Chiefs could have won the game last week when the nigga lined up offsides,

when they threw the lateral pass. That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of special things that are happening, even while they're losing, because that play would have been a play for the ages. You hear how you say, what a cut of shit are those sort of things that don't matter, man? I know.

This is title town. Until you beat the champs, you're not the champs. I mean, I am talking with people who know sports, so am I. Should I just walk out? Are we talking to people who know sports? You're the same person that didn't even know who was the quarterback with

the Kansas City Chiefs until they won the championship. I actually did know. No, we told you it was Alex Smith. We know you live in Titletown because you just moved to Titletown. Whoever has the title, that's the town that you moved to. So you're always going to live in Titletown. It doesn't matter what city it is or what state. You told me and Maurice Claret, don't act like Michigan ain't in it.

Where did Michigan come from? Out of nowhere. So we always know you live in title town. I've been in Michigan before I went to Milwaukee. Okay. Actually, let me get on the mic. I was in Michigan before I went to Milwaukee. But you was a Georgia Bulldog and everything else.

Soon as they out, you talking about I wore blue today for Michigan. You always going to live in title town. So, yeah, I got maroon on for Alabama. We can move on. Purple. Okay, so before we go to the next game, I know you guys are kind of in agreement about Patrick Mahomes being the best quarterback in the league,

but do you guys believe he's the best quarterback this season? Right now, I mean, based upon stats, he's probably number eight. And the person that got the best stats is probably the guy from Detroit, but I don't think nobody will call him the best quarterback. So to OJ's point. Who got the best stats? Jeff. Goff. Jared Go? Jeff. Goff.

Jared Goff. Jared Goff. So why he ain't in the MVP race according to you? That's what I would be asking OJ. Yeah, but that's what I'm asking. You didn't bring him up. Is this another case of reverse racism? Why are you scratching your neck?

On OJ's part. When you start doing all this. That's a good question. When you start doing all this. When you start doing all this. You make a good question. Will you start doing all this? Will you start doing all this? You make me think you're thinking about something. Because we just went,

you just said the Tours, Tours numbers are better than What is Detroit's record? What is Detroit's record? I think it's the same as, yeah. Yeah, this is what you need to be telling OJ.

This is what I'm saying. I'm not beefing with, no, I'm just trying to figure out I'm beefing with him This is what I'm saying. I'm not beefing with no one. I'm just trying to figure out your philosophy. I'm beefing with him. I'm beefing with him. What is it? What is it?

Okay, so right now they're 10 and 4, but that was a pretty valid question. Thank you, Cam. Yeah, because if he has the best number, I'm going to your philosophy. Yes. If he has the best numbers and he has the same record as the Dolphins,

why wasn't you bringing him up in the conversation? I was basically saying anybody. I would add him to it. I would add Jared to it as well. No problem. I mean, what's a better story than Detroit is finally winning?

That's a good point. He's white. Yeah, I'm not mad at it. Talk to OJ. Maybe OJ can answer this. He's white. Yeah, I'm not mad at it. Talk to O.J. Maybe O.J. can answer this. He's the Hall of Famer. O.J., you answer this. I'm not the biggest fan of O.J. When he was out here with the Rams.

I'm just not the biggest fan of his. But I do say he's playing a lot better than I thought he was capable of playing. Yeah, you've been shitting on Detroit since the season started. I'm going to be totally honest with you. You said when the playoffs come, go fuck Detroit. That isn't the exact words, but you said, oh, forget Detroit, and then

nothing's going to matter when the playoffs start, so we don't even need to pay them no mind. God damn, won't you just sweep them under the rug like that with a 10-4 record after all they've been through all these years? I think when you get to the playoffs, he's going to do

Romo and he's going to do Jack. So I'm correct. I stand corrected. MVP is regular season, right? It has nothing to do with postseason, right? So then we should be going by that. We shouldn't be going by what he does

in the playoffs because the MVP ain't got nothing to do with that. I know in basketball it doesn't. OJ Canucks, I answer that. That's a great question. He knows that's the truth, but let's see what he got to say. Go ahead, O. I say I don't totally agree with that,

but that has been the way it is. That has been the way it worked. Okay, so I'm right. You're always right. I didn't want to hear all of that. That's what he needed to hear. Oh, I'm putting you on my shirt saying you're always right. If you believe that, you're always right.

That was just super sarcastic. You're always right. Okay. So next game, the Ravens beat the Jags 23 to 7. Their record is 11 and 3. How are we feeling about the Ravens right now? And did you expect them to win? OJ? Yes, you expect them to win OJ?

Yes, I expected them to win. I, for most of the season, I thought they played like the best team in the ASC. Not that I thought they were, but I thought they played like it. This is a big win for them because they played against a pretty good team and basically they dominated the game

so they're a tough team to get by they're going to be a tough team to get by in the playoffs I see them going against the Bills Kansas City, I can't throw Kansas City out because like you said, they got the man. I can't see them being the same playoff team

that they were last year and the year before. I think that those running backs are going to hurt. It was good. You're great great that was great looking at it now they clinched their

playoff berth today we knew that they was going to go to the playoffs so I think this is more about Jacksonville losing we talked about this yesterday morning now it's a three way tie

for the division between Jacksonville Indian Indianapolis, and Houston. So the next few weeks, we'll see who wins this division and makes it to the playoffs. But I'm not surprised I picked. Actually, I think I'm not sure I picked. I may have picked Jacksonville because I know Mason.

I was going against everything yesterday that was supposed to go right. Not surprised that Baltimore won, but I would like to see who's going to win this division. I'm rooting for Houston to win this division. I wouldn't be mad at any one of these three teams that won the division because Indianapolis had quarterback problems at the beginning. Jacksonville been going through the ringer for years, and they got Trevor Lawrence, and this would be great for him him and I'm not mad at the story down there in Houston either

so I'm not I don't have a dog in a race but any one of these three teams that win division getting the playoffs it'll be interesting to watch okay last question sportscaster Al Michaels will not be part of NFL playoff coverage and people are speculating. It has to do with his Taylor Swift comments. He referred to Taylor as a sideshow and said, you can't make a sideshow the show, but other sources are saying he's being criticized for his lack of energy. So thoughts on his Taylor Swift's comments.

I can't talk about this. Taylor Swift comments. Al was a longtime friend of mine. We did the 84 Olympics together. We did some track and field and other events together, even a little football together. He's a great guy. He really is a good guy. I think he's in his early 60s now.

So maybe he's losing some energy. I don't know, but it does seem plausible to me that he would put his football, at least announcing career danger because of Taylor Swift. But I don't know. I didn't hear him say it, but with the publicity it's gotten, I have to assume he did. Real quick, he's 79. Yeah, what did you mean by putting his career on the line for Taylor Swift?

Well, you just said that they've taken him off football. Basically, he says some shit like he was basically, wasn't Taylor, Treasure Red is basically, He says some shit like he was basically with Taylor. Treasure Red is basically he's saying that you can't make the football game about the sidelines spectacle. The spectacle on the sidelines meaning showing Taylor Swift all the time. And that and those comments may have gotten removed from announcing the playoffs. So that's what we're talking about. Yeah, I don't agree with that.

I definitely don't agree with that because one of the, one of the things that's missing from sports is honest commentary. So when somebody is being honest, a lot of times people hear lies so much that when they hear the truth, they're offended by it. And that seemed like where Cam went through when he went to the party. So this guy is 100 percent right. Just because y'all fanboying for Taylor Swift, that doesn't change his opinion. He's on TV to give his honest, I mean, expertise.

You said you play with the guy. He's he's he's obviously decorated in the sport of football. He should have the right to say this game is not about the people on the sideline. That's what I was saying in the beginning of the year. All I could say came with me. I always

thought he was a terrific guy, so I'm kind of sad this is really happening, that this is happening to him. Look, and to add on, to add on, we had a situation, not us, but we looked at a

situation maybe a month and a half ago when this guy said something about James Harden, a broadcaster, and they made him, they erased it or some shit, I forget what happened exactly, but he gave his honest opinion and they made him take it down on social media

or erase it or say sorry. Whatever it was, he wasn't able to give his honest opinion. I agree with Mace 100%. Like he said, just something similar happened less than 48 hours ago because people can't accept honesty.

So when you're giving them honesty, they get offended by it. But what I will say is this. You have to realize when you're not bigger than the system, whether you're right or wrong, and nobody's bigger than the badge, which when I say the badge, it's the NFL badge. So if Taylor Swift has generated money for the NFL and somebody goes

against that, I'm not, I don't think it's right, but that's what's going to happen. No, we can, you know, I don't know the numbers. I'm just, I'm going to use an example. If they're getting the extra 3 million, 4 million views per game, because they feel that you may get a glimpse of Taylor Swift, then you're affecting their bottom line. And when you affect their bottom, you have something to say about their bottom line, they don't have any problem kicking you out the system, which I think is totally wrong.

I agree 100%. That's really good. Yeah, all good points. Okay, well, OJ, thank you for being here. Thank you. Oh, we love you, man. We appreciate you. Talk to my guy this week. I'll make sure you get your shoes.

Cool, man. Yeah, yeah. We're going to send you some of the sizes and everything else, man, and that was a great job. And great show, O. Great show. Both of y'all seem to have a grasp

on the obvious for us. It's a great, great show, man. Both of you guys, man. Well, thanks, OJ. That's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.