IT IS WHAT IT IS - CAM'RON & FORMULA ONE, GAME 7'S IN THE EAST, SCARY 76ERS & CAN WE TRUST JAMES HARDEN!

Episode Date: May 4, 2026

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Welcome back to It Is What It is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with her host, Cam. Mace will be back. And y'all today we got Nick joining the show. Yay. Nick's in the building, Nick in the building, you know? You're always in the building. You're just on the...

Now I'm on the show, yeah, big time now. I'm good. I'm good. Stad. How are you? How was your weekend? Great. It was good. Cam, how are you?

I saw you with the... At the pit with the F1 drivers. Yeah, man, you know, doing a little bit of everything these days, man. Facts. You really do. Like, your presence has been literally everywhere, and it's dope. And the fit. You already know you do that.

You do that. But that was fire. And, like, you know. Thank you, man. I appreciate it from Gen Z, man. You know what I'm saying? I really do, man. It means a lot, man.

It means a lot, man. So thank you so much for that. Of course. I appreciate it. Real quick, Cam, was that the first time you ever got, like, exposed to Formula One shit. Are you fan of Formula One? Like, how was that?

Because that's pretty big time, bro. Formula One's in Vegas every for the last two years. So I've seen it. But shout to Adidas, shout to Farrell. You know, so basically, let's, you know, to breaking down, because I heard people talking about like the camscorches beef with Adidas and everything else. I never had any beef with Adidas. They did a campaign, you know, it wasn't just, you know, it wasn't just me.

they dissed the show. You know what I'm saying? They just, uh, it is what it is. They called us it is with an ain't. So I just felt, yeah, so I felt like I wasn't only defending myself. I was defending everybody who's a part of the show, you, Mace, stat, everybody. And what, what do we ever do? So when I seen Farrell, um, probably eight, nine months ago, we was talking.

He was explaining how he was really, um, upset that they did that campaign. You know, he's one of the, I don't know his exact title of the DEDA's, but he's up there with the big dogs of the DEDA's. And he was explaining that he was upset with them for doing it. It was uncalled for. He didn't even know it was about. And then we talked about a bunch of different stuff for me, possibly designed to shoot for Adidas one day, et cetera. We just talked, it was at dinner with Steve Stout, shout out to Steve Stout as well. And we just talked about a bunch of different ideas. And we just said when the opportunity presented itself,

we'll figure it out. And his sneakers are being released this week, and this is the pink version of his sneakers, the jellyfishers. So who else to do the pink sneakers but me? So they reached out. Just a great opportunity to start off a good relationship, hopefully moving forward.

So for those, all the sneaker heads and all the sneaker pages, and everything else wondering how I got cool with Adidas and everything else. I never had a problem with them. They came at us. I was only defending us. But you got to give the credit to Farrell for actually putting a play together. And thank you, Farrell, as well.

And everybody up there, Adidas, for thinking about me when the pink sneakers came out. So that's how I wanted to play. Yeah, that's super dope. And if you're not following Kim on Instagram, make sure you tap in. So you can see all the cool stuff that everybody has been doing. Okay. So time to get into basketball. a whole lot of game sevens.

But we're going to start with the Sixers, because the Sixers got it done in Boston, beating the Celtics 109 to 100 in game seven. The last time the Sixers actually beat the Celtics in a playoff series was 1982. Shottie was not born, aka me. Cam, going to let you go first.

How did this happen? How to happen? Easy. Joe Missouri. And, you know, I think he's an exceptional coach. I really do, considering what they've done this season without Jason Tatum. Not only that, you lose Jason Tatum a few games into the series. But I do think that you live by the three and you die by the three.

Game seven, Jason Tatum didn't play. But all year long, we're talking about how Jalen Brown should be considered for league MVP. Jaylen Brown's the Batman of the Boston Celtics. We talk about how he should be, should have been on Olympics. All this stuff we've given Jalen Brown credit to. And he had one game to get it done. And Big Bad Joe L&B been on the tear

the last three games. You know, he lost that first game when he first came back. Well, you've got to consider, you're thinking about somebody who's actually had a surgery two or three weeks ago for appendix, appendicitis, whatever it was. He was in surgery.

And the sports and Celtics big men had no answer for Joe L.M.B. Not only that, we get a few games with some vintage Paul George. You know, we call him podcast P, but he's been bawling since he's been back. And it looks like he's accepted his role on the 76s. When I say accepted his role, you got to think about this. We got an all-star Tyrese Maxie. We got a superstar when Joe L&B is healthy. We see still not 100% healthy.

So I think Paul George doesn't mind being the third option, which that's a great third option to have. We got the emergence of Edgecombe. Kelly Ubrey plays his part. And they got it done three games in a row. I've seen Jalen Brown actually complaining, said, Joe L.M.B.'s a flopper. He messed the game up with flopping.

Flopping. Yo, bro, bro, you, y'all was up. There's no reason that you let a hobby. Joe L&B, come back and beat you. Not saying he didn't have help, but you had help too. Pritchard was doing what he was doing. Like I said, Tatum, even though he missed a couple games, he came back and did what he had to do.

I think Derek White was probably missing a lot in this series, but I'm going to put the most of the blame on Joe Missoula for not adjusting. You're missing threes consecutively. This last game, you went 11 for 20. What is it, Parme? You went 11 for 28 from 3. And all, no, pardon me, that's not, that's the sixes I'm looking at. 13 for 49.

So you shot under 30%. And you didn't make any adjustments. You say, you know what, limb by the three, die by the three, that's that. And that's why they pretty much out shooting a bunch of threes now. You know, sin is, I don't know, he got to bring some. He wants Joe Missoula fired. I said, you're not going to fire Joe Missoula. He had a good record considering Jason Taylor.

and was out this entire year. I think he rushed back to try and help the team get to the next round. Didn't necessarily work out. But I will say this. They wanted to live by the three this year, and they died by the three this year in the first round. And I'm actually looking forward to this series of Joel Lindy because stay healthy with the Knicks.

Because the way the Knicks looked last game, everybody in the East should be scared of the Knicks. Because they look really terrifying. They look aggressive, and they look like they won it, and they look like they look like they're tired of people playing with their name. So congratulations to the Philadelphia 76 is moving forward. But this was a case of shooting too many threes and not making enough of them. Yeah, that's a good ass point because in game four,

stat they hit 23-3s the Celtics did. And they're the ultimate live-bought-a-3, die by the three. But you said something interesting there, Cam, about Missoula. Like, you know, I'm a big betting guy. and he's now lost three series with the Celtics as like big betting favorites. So like 2023 to your heat, is this still your heat or what do we? It never was not my heat. I just want to make sure, you know, I just want to clarify so I'm aware of everything.

Clarity questions. Clarity questions. Yeah, we're back with that. So, so Missoula in 2023, right, they lose to the heat. He's minus 600 to win, meaning you got to put 600 to win 100. And then when they lost to the Knicks last year, they're minus 800. So 800 to win 100. Yo, this year for the 76th series, $1,300.

So you have to put $1,300 to win $100 on that. So, like, Cam, do you think he's on the hot seat? Because there's also a title in the middle of everything that I just said, too. And it's like, yeah, you always say that we forget what happened yesterday. So the year, so the first year that you said he lost the series, what year was that him coaching the Celtics? His first year. That was after the-

Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. The next year they win the title, right? Yeah. The year you're talking about when they lose, again, who gets hurt? Yeah. Yeah, but the Knicks was up, though.

Who? Yeah, but the series wasn't over. Who gets hurt? Right, Tatum. First team, all NBA. Yep. Olympic gold medalists. Who's not playing the whole season this year?

Tatum. Who gets hurt in the middle? middle of the playoffs. Yeah. So if you take that, if you take what you're saying, right, and you're putting them on a hot seat, take any other superstar off their team, take LeBron off of the Lakers and try and get a second seed in the West. Take Jalen Brunson off the Knicks and try and do what Joe Madula did.

So you'd have to put that into, you have to put that into perspective. You're not just losing an average player. You're losing of consensus first team all, all NBA. the last couple years, Olympic gold medal is an NBA champion. So I'm not saying you're wrong for us. Betting is concerned. But if you put, like I said, once you're out there, you're out there. But if you're taking all the circumstances in consideration, fine.

You're adopting a team the first year after EMA Doker left. Cool, you're getting familiar. It doesn't happen. What happened? You win the championship to next year. The next year during the playoffs, even though you're down in the playoffs. you lose to the next, but the series wasn't over. And then this year, you got your superstar trying to rush back.

Now, people thought that they possibly could win because how Jalen Brown has been looking all season. But it doesn't carry over in the seven games, obviously. And then if you don't have Jason Tatum for two or those two and a half of those seven games, it's going to matter. I don't think he should be on the hot seat. But I understand if you losing your money, you feel that way. If you bad.

No, but I also think like I was just going more so that it's crazy that this dude just won a title, like not too long ago. But for him to be on the hot seat and everybody talking about that, I saw something interesting too. And it's like, you think maybe Tatum ultimately it cost him that he came back because like they were playing so well without him and then trying to throw him into the mix with everything. And to camp's point, like, yo, there was a bunch of times where we were saying he was an MVP can. at Jalen Brown. So do you guys think there's anything to it with like maybe Tatum ultimately kind of costing how the play the how the team was playing? See I kind of asked before Cam goes, I had this kind of similar conversation with the Lakers even when Austin Reeves had his return because I was like, you don't really know. And that's kind of the sacrifice that you have to make.

And we see and we'll get to that conversation too things worked out well for them. You never really know. I feel like that's the risk that you have to take because then you also don't want to have that conversation that's like, dang, if we did put him in or, did not like what would the outcome have would have been it's always going to be a shoulda coulda what a situation and I don't really like taking it there and it's the worst too yeah yeah yeah it's so much easier after to be like yeah he fucked the team up you're right exactly but cam curious on your thoughts if you're in agreeance or not I agree with what you says that it's gonna happen you're off the way and see you could have said that right game

the first game joe l mb came back right you know come on man this nigger he fucking the chemistry. I was on that for a minute. Yeah. Yo, come on, man. Bring him off the bench. Why you're starting him? He just got off or came out to surgery, out of surgery, out of surgery.

And then what happens? He gets in Riverman and then the sixes end up advancing. Same thing on Sturree's, you know. They lose the game. They come back. Lakers end up advancing. So when it doesn't work out, you could say, cool. But I think this, right?

You had one game to get it done if you're Jalen Brown without Jason Taylor. You know, a candidate or so you felt like you should be a candidate. And a lot of people felt like you should be a candidate for league MVP. It's the same team you had when Jason Tatum wasn't there. And you could say Jason Tatum came back and may have disrupted the chemistry or whatever you want to say. You knew what you was doing when he wasn't there. It's just that Joe Lombie probably wasn't around or wasn't healthy when he wasn't there. And I think that the Sixers are getting healthy at the right time and everybody falling into their role.

because my thing was this, right? I thought that even when Maxie, Eschcombe and Ubre, they were all right, because Paul George missed 25 games, we know Joel and B in and out the lineup. I was like they have no chemistry. But they look like they have a lot of chemistry the last three games because you've got to realize this. When you pass the ball to Joel and B on the block, he's taking up six, seven seconds on the shot clock.

He's dribbling. He's trying to get in the position. position. If it equals a basket, then it's good. If it doesn't, it doesn't. But he's a problem when he's down there on that block and the Boston Seltas had no answer for it. But if you're Jalen Brown, you have one game. You have one game to get it done without Jason Taylor. And you've been doing it all season. So I agree with true stat. When it works out, it works out. When it doesn't, it just looks bad. Right. And then just looking at the percentage when you said live by the three, die by the three. The Celtics actually saw it 26 percent from the three in this

game when they shoot under 30% they don't look too hot and we've seen that so that's something that they're going to have to figure out but i also want to go to this comment from jalen brown since we're kind of i guess having that expectation for him to be able to step it up and this is the comment that he actually made post game so he accused actually mbid of flopping around he said mbid put a lot of pressure on us on all our bigs and our guards we didn't really have an answer for him we tried a bunch of different things he's a big body he also was flopping around so he got some extra calls and they rewarded him for that but that's the league that we're in so cam how do you feel about those comments from jalen brown and then do you now believe in

ambide jaylin brown said it itself that's the league that we're in you ain't first of janeum brown i like jaylin brown i do but you ain't play in the 90s niggins niggins i ain't playing the 2000s niggins when niggas was getting beat up when you had to like literally know how to fight and i said i don't know fight and I'm not accusing you that. But I'm saying, bro, you play in a very soft league. And you're saying, this is the league we are now. So it's been going on. And the problem, we had this conversation last week, I believe,

where the fund is only $2,000 for flopping. Guys are getting $300,000 a game, so they're going to flop around. If they could get away with it, they could get away with it. The fine needs to be bigger so niggas won't be flopping around. But it isn't just Joe, And it's a bunch of people that flop. It's because the rest are going to call it.

It's so many times that they go to instant replay and then you see somebody not getting touched. Somebody act like they get touched and don't get touched. And if you don't have a challenge as a coach because you use your challenge early in the game, then sometimes you're just going to get penalized for that. But Jalen Brown, I don't think it's the time to say that. I don't think it's the time to point fingers

and flopping at this down and third. I just said it last take. You had one game to get it done. And we know Joe Lombie is good when he's healthy. It was you against him, basically. And I'm not saying that supporting cash doesn't matter. But you've been considered for league MVP and not necessarily voting-wise,

but amongst people talking-wise. So, no, I just don't think this was the time to say it after you lose a game and you go home in the first round, especially in the first round. You know what I'm saying? Nobody was picking Philadelphia to advance. Nope. Niggas wasn't picking Joel and Bede to come back this series.

Nope. So like Nick was saying, for people who may have bet before this series started, they probably pissed off if you bet on Boston. So cool. But as far as me believing in Joel and Bede, I believe in Joel Embed as long as he's healthy. It's about him being healthy. It's during the game seven,

we seen him on the sideline with an ice pack and ace bandage on his ribs. I don't know if that's the side where he got the operation. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. But I don't know if you get a fully healthy Joel L.B. And the way that the Knicks are looking, it look like the Knicks could actually be a problem. Now, if you get, look, you think about them when they played the Knicks, I believe it was last season. Joe Lombie had 50 points on one leg and one eye. he literally had one eye and one leg and had 50 points.

He will be a problem if he's 50 to 60% healthy. It's about how healthy Joe L.N.B is. So I believe in him when he's healthy. I believe when he's 60, 70% healthy. But I don't know what Joe Lombie we're going to get in the next year. Yo, so I'm a big soccer fan. I fuck with the flopping. Like I think it's gamesmanship.

I think to your point, you love to say this. Now you have an issue with it. Like, yo, you can get away with it. It's not like they only calling it for one team. Like, you can manipulate it too. Like, all the best guys in the league, you know, they get the superstar file anyway. So to me, it's kind of normal. Like, I've been normalized to it.

Like, you know, like I said, a soccer player gets hit in the shoulder. He grabbing his ankle. He rolling around for 20 minutes. They bring the stretcher out. World Cups around. Everybody's going to be seeing that shit, too. So to this, it's like, yo, you could. you get the same whistle if you manipulate it, right?

Like SGA be shooting and then kicking his leg out. He gets tripped. We see that all the time. So I don't got no problem with it because both teams could get that same whistle. You just got to be able to, it's gamesmanship. You manipulate. You try to foul bait somebody. You know, growing up, you're playing basketball or sports with someone.

You try to get in their head. They throw an elbow. They get ejected. Like, that shit's been happening. So to me, it's whatever. Does it slow the game down? Is it corny sometimes? Yeah, but fuck it, yo.

if you can. And it works, like, you know, especially it's free points. You get to the free throw line. Like, you see it happen all the time. That's a big knock on SGA. Everybody behind on SGA. I think it's an art for him. Like, I think he's mastered an art for him. And all these guys, Hardin was doing that. Steph does that. Like, how many times does Steph hit a three? And then, you know, it's a four-point play now. So, and I'm a Knicks fan. Brunson be doing that shit, too. So honestly, it might be a hot take, but I'm cool with it. Like, I think you can manipulate it and get that extra whistle by all means. So I don't, I don't mind. flopping but to can's point like you know the timing is everything saying it now you look like a sucker don't like it and then the second part do you now believe in imb because he basically called imbed out

for it so well and bead the only knock on him is that he just never healthy he's he's missed more games than he's played when he does play we see how good he is but it's like yo you're you're robbing the sixers with no no gloves no mask on right you're getting paid all this money you just never available Like as a Knicks fan, I preferred Boston. I wanted Boston. I'm worried about this one because Embeddeed is a tough matchup. I think Brunson's going to be in a blender trying to guard Maxie and Edgecombe. Like them two, you know, we're talking about Embed, but that backcourt had 53.

They've been cooking the backcourt for the Celtics and together. Like Edgecombe don't look like a rookie. Not at all. It looks like he's like year seven in the league and Maxis Maxi's Maxi. So yeah, that's going to be a tough-ass matchup for the Knicks. Like I'm still confident in them because I think the guard. is going to help them get a win. But in regards to him,

the only knock on him is just, he's just never healthy. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. You don't sound too confident in the next, but I will let that fly because I think this was an honest answer. And we'll get into predictions later.

So it's good to hear that perspective, especially from a Knicks fan. Yeah, I'm pretty rational. And Kim, you know, like this beef, I don't know if, you know, last couple times since been on the show, he's like, yo, I don't trust Nick. I don't trust Nick. And that's all because I pick Cade Cunningham

at the start of the year to win MVP. Does that make me a year? shitty fan bro or is it just like yo that's just my opinion on who I think might win MVP no it's just that nick fans are irrational yeah yeah they don't look at what's going on seriously like they really don't like I'm talking about the upsets nick fans they don't look at what's going on it's like you know stevenate nephew Josh he keeps tagging me yeah yeah like they did something that they shouldn't have done he's tagging me at every post Josh you don't have to tag me in every post you put up

you did what you were supposed to do. It was the Atlanta Hawks. And because the Atlanta Hawks had went up to one on y'all, people were speculating. Y'all came back and won the series. Congratulations for being the Atlanta Hawks. You know, he was up there talking about he calling out of work. This is what I'm talking about. You're calling out of work for being Atlanta Hawks and going to the second round.

This is the shit that Nick fans do. There's a celebration for what? you not now does it look optimistic? Yeah, right now it does, but this is what I'm talking about. No, it's there a question next? No, it doesn't make you not a loyal fan. It makes you look at what's going on around the league. Pardon me, what's going on around the league and paying attention to it.

That's it. That's it. You haven't done anything wrong. And don't let them tell you anything different for being observant. Let's go. They're going to tell you regardless, though. So good luck. It gives, they're like, you're a traitor.

Why would you? Yeah. Yeah. Halfway through the show, I'll get a call from sin and being like, yo, I knew I couldn't trust you. I knew you just like them and all that shit. Like, so I get it. But thank you for Cam.

I appreciate that. Yeah, because I'm reasonable. Yeah. Same cloth. The same fan cloth, literally. Okay, this next game. So Pistons win the series after beating the Magic 116 to 94. Y'all were right.

I was wrong. I was like, the match you're going to win it. That did not happen. The Pistons came from 3-1 down and when their first playoff series since 2008, Kim, what do you think made the difference for the Pistons to win this game? To be totally honest with you,

the reason the Pistons won this game, it came down to be honest with you, came down in supporting cast. And because Pio, you know, my nigga Ben Chow, I'm going to go back to him. Paulo, Pee-5. Paiio, Pai, I don't know, my pronounce you.

on Benchuk. He, this whole series, I loved it because the superstars came out. Two number one picks. You got the 2021 and 2022 number one picks. He finished this game with 38 points. Kate Cudder here with 32 points.

So you sit there and say, who's going to help out the superstars this game? And the most help came from this, from this particular game, Game 7, from Detroit. When you get Tobias Harris, getting 30 points. That's what did it.

Their Charo didn't have that much help. Baines was fairly off. We know they're missing another key player that's hurt. I don't know why this thinking. What's the name? Franz Wagner. Yeah, Franz Wagner. Yeah, France is out right now.

Jalen sucks. We're more defense than offense. He's six points. Kane had five points. And he didn't really have any help. And you get 30 points from Tobias Harris. Not only that, you get Durham 15 points. You get a thorough of eight points.

Then you get off the bench. Jenkins, Jenkins came to fuck out of nowhere and started busting there. So it was really about the supporting cast, and that's why the pistons are moving on. Venturo didn't have help yesterday. Kay Cunningham did have help. But I do want to give it up to Kay and Banchero for putting on the show this entire series, because that's what you want to see. not only that

I want to give a lot of love to Cade because, you know, that injury he had, you know, people were like sending in saying his career is over. Not the season, his career is over. He's not going to be able to play anymore. I'm like, yo, I did the homework.

They said the name is going to be back in two weeks. What are you talking about? Yeah, I don't know about that. Collapsed long. Tupac got shot. Yeah, what? Like, how does the correlation? Way different.

Yo, Tupac got shot, nigger. What do you say? Yo, bro, this is the nonsense that I have to hear. So I just want to give a big shout out to Kay, because the few weeks he did miss might have cost him being in the MVP finalist conversation, even though he'll be up for awards, all NBA, so on and so forth. Just watching him the series, smooth, man. That kid's game is very smooth.

He doesn't get rattled. doesn't panic. You know, the game before last, even though Orlando set a record for missing the most shots in the row, I don't even remember how many motherfucking shots they missed, but it was ridiculous amount of shots. And

they were down, I believe, 18, 20 points. It was, pistons were down, talking about Game 6, a ridiculous amount of points, and Kay Cunningham wheeled them back to a victory, and it looked like they picked up right off that energy from Game 6, more than the game 7. And then,

moving on to the next round, but the reason that the Pistons won this game, you had Tobias Harris, Tobias Harris, Jenkins off the bench, helping out more than anybody else on Orlando Magic. And that's what I was trying to say last week when everybody was like, yo, congratulations, Orlando Magic. Congratulations. What are we congratulating? Tris, I can't wait for you to come back on.

I mean, I can't wait. I can't wait. Because you said you will celebrate if they don't go to the next round. Is anybody who watches Trish out to Trish? She's our basketball endless sensational at what she does. I'm talking about not just basketball, period. But sometimes you hit her unlucky streak. Just bet against her.

It's, you know, bet against her right now. It's just the best bet if you want to win money. She said it would be a good city of Portland. She dissed in Detroit all year long, talking about how she can't wait to come back this week, and she is going to celebrate. Celebration is off, Trish. Celebration is off.

And please do not pick the Spurs to win anything. We don't need your kind of take our analysts or not. Please don't pick us for anything. We don't want you to pick us because right now you're smush. If you haven't seen the movie Bronxdale, go watch Bronxdale and find out who Smush is. Trista. Can't wait to see you this week, though.

Looking forward to it. Bruh. That's such a backhanded compliment. Not she the jinx. It'd be like that sometimes. It'd be like that. But, yo, to Cam's point, something that he said that I found really interesting. And when I was thinking about this game and watching it, like, yo, there's also a 3-1 lead that got blown by Orlando, right?

And, you know, you expect this is why Cade make $250 plus million, right, gets that contract. This is why Paolo got paid. These game sevens, Super Bowls, you know, like I said, I'm a side. soccer fan World Cubs. I call it the random guys. Like the guy that, like Jenkins, I think Detroit wins this game because it was at home too. I know, I know there's been a trend. The last 17 game sevens, the home team is seven and ten. We're like in the 80s and 90s, yo, you had a game seven at home, pack that shit up. You were going to win anyway. But, you know, we'll talk about the Raptors and calves later. Another team that won at home on game seven. So you get generally.

Jenkins off the bench and he dropped 16, right? Tobias Harris hit this one shot where he was fading away where the dude blocked the ball. And he kind of like threw that shit up and it went in. And it's one of those where you're like, yo, I know it's a five point game there, but that's a bad omen if you're the magic. And again, Kay just, that dude can't take a break, yo, because they were up like 19 and then they sub him out and his back-to-back turnovers. And then before you know it, the coach Brickerstaff is calling time out.

He's like, yo, bro, listen. I know, I know, I know Sin is saying that your career was. over, but you got to get your ass back out on the court because we can't even afford that shit. Because, you know, not for nothing, like, they saw it firsthand because they were on the other side of it where they came back down 22 in game six. So that dude, Cade, man, he's so valuable to that team. And, you know, he drops 32. And then again, you get the random performance from like a Jenkins.

And he's been solid for them all year. But in a game seven, you need those random guys that are off the bench. And, you know, you saw it with your team, Kelly Olenick that one time. Yeah. You know, it's like, when the fuck was that going to happen? Like, I'm hoping as a Knicks fan you get that random Tyler Cola game where it's like you'll remember it like that. But that's what I'm saying.

This is what happens, though. That's how it works. You know, who would have thought like Luke Conard was going to turn into JJ Reddick at Duke? Like, he carried them in that first series against Houston. So that's what I mean when I say like the random guys. And that's what I took it from with the magic and Pistons game. Yeah. For the quote unquote, random guys.

I don't know what you're saying. One second, just to add on the. what Nick was saying real quick, is you absolutely right. They need to figure out how to break that pressure. I don't know why Orlando didn't do that more, even though when Kay's there, they get through the press pretty well. But when Orlando

started putting pressure in the back court against the Pistons, they were having problems getting it up. And if I'm scouting the next round, if I'm Cleveland, I'm paying attention to that. Because I don't know, like I said, I don't know

how it goes. A lot of to me, Like I said, I never made it to the pro level, so I can't talk about it. But a lot of fundamental shit, and I don't know if this shit practice translating the NBA. It's a lot of fundamental stuff that you learn when you're playing bitties or midgets or junior, you know, in the AAU circuit when you're being coached or out of bounds plays. How to get the ball in bounds. How to break the press. You practice that shit. And it seems like the last two years out of bound plays.

five second costs, turnovers, et cetera. And when I was watching this when Nick was just talking about, y'all niggas, can I get the ball up to court? We actually seen in college

Duke may have been cost to championship because they couldn't get the ball across half court. Like, what are y'all practicing? You should be practicing that. In college, you can't break the press in college

or you don't have it, the president. in some mind to say, look, it's eight seconds left. I'm just going to hold on to this ball in the back court until I get fouled or something else because in college it's still 10 seconds to get it over half court. I just don't get while the fundamental shit or certain shit is out. And maybe because you're in NBA, they're figuring, well, y'all should know how to do this already.

But to me, that's a great point, Nick. Kay Cunningham went out the game. Them niggins was turning the ball over having problems getting over half court from the Cleveland Cavaliers, I'm going to figure that out because putting pressure on them in the back court to look like they had a problem. So that's something they need to work on the next round. Sure.

Okay, so next, the Kaz versus the Raptors and the Lakers versus the Rockets. We'll break it all down after the break. Welcome Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She's tired of hearing I don't know My stubborn in me won't fall

Oh oh With this thing called trust But she really thinking about She want to be free Why am I? Welcome back So the Cavs advanced to the Eastern Conference semifinals with the 114 to 102 victory

Over the Raptors. Cam, what did you think of this Cavs win? I thought this was a great series as well. I got really, really familiar with Scotty Barnes, outstanding player, R.J. Barry, you know, coming for the Knicks. Really, really great player as well, even though he's Canadian. He's playing at home. I got familiar with this Raptor team because they wasn't really on the radar throughout the season for me anyway. I won't say for everybody for me. But, you know, not having Brandon Engron,

even though he wasn't really producing that much when he was there, that's still a body on the floor that you need. But everybody, as far as the starters, did really well. But I think that really what won this game was when you have Mowbly stepping up in games in game six, even though they lost that game, he started to get some of his mojo back. James Hardin, Donovan,

subpar game for those fellas. You know James Harton's finishes with 18 points, Donovan Mitchell with 22 points. James Harden only takes nine shots. Donovan Mitchell finished with under 50% from the field. But you got the bench that came in for the Cleveland Cavaliers, and that's what made the difference, I believe. But I think the Raptors put up a great fight, just like Orlando.

I think they put up a great fight too. But these are the two teams that you want to see play. And that's why I kind of disagree. You know, a lot of people are talking about the first round should go back to five games. We don't need that's several, these seven games. We should figure out in five. This first round really proved that some of these teams may need seven games to win. You may not have this next round matchup if it only went five games.

You may be seeing the Raptors versus Orlando if it went five games. So I think that the seven games in the first round is still outstanding. Keep it in the seven games, the more basketball for me to be. better because it's going to be days coming up without basketball and I'm going to be sad about it. So I love having more basketball. But I think that the Cleveland Cavaliers play overall, overall better as a team. Not only that I have home court advantage and they take advantage of that. But shout to the Raptors.

I think that y'all had a decent playoff series, things to look upward for y'all next season. Hopefully you get a healthy brand of angering back. We'll see what happens. Yeah, this was a series that every team won at home. And you saw, like, to me, I can't trust James Harden, Cam. I know when he first went to the Cavs, you and Mace was on here, being like, yo, best bad court in the East. And yeah, I see why y'all say that, but like, yo,

there's a running joke on James Hardin's that, where, like, he shoots tour dates in games that matter. Three of nine, four of 17, five of 26. And just like historically, you know, he's nine points in a game seven. against the Celtics, three of 11, five turnovers. Four of 15 in a game seven versus a thunder. Two of 13 from three against the Warriors. And these are all game sevens, Cam.

Like, I still think, even though they got through it on this one, Scotty Barnes falling into foul trouble, I think that definitely killed Toronto. They're another team that they play better at home than they do on the road. That's why every team won at home here. And to me, it's just, yeah, they got through. They were supposed to. They were big favorites going into the series to.

Cam's point, like the Raptors forcing it to seven. They also overachieve this year. Like they surpassed their win total by almost 20 games. So it was a shock that they even got to, you know, the first round of the playoffs. But to me, it's like just moving forward. Donovan Mitchell has never been to a conference finals. James Hardin in a big spot just lets his team down. So to me, I stat, I can't trust it.

Yeah. I don't trust them. Yeah, they got through Toronto. They were supposed to. But I'm just, I've seen it time and time again. And I fuck with James Harden. When he was on the Rockets, I felt like he was the only team that gave the Warriors issues. But when it mattered most and like, yo, at some point, if it don't work out here, it's like, yo, bro, what else could we do?

Are you the problem? Yeah. So, you know, so I talk about this on my show, right? Kim, and tell me what you think about this. It's like he's been on five teams now in nine years. It's like, bro, at some point it's you. Like if I got married and divorced five times in 10 years, at some point, y'all would be like, you know, You kind of fucked up.

It ain't Kathy and Susie's fault. You got some issues, bro. And that's what I think it is with James Harden. Like, he's a hell of a talent. Talking about the foul baiting earlier in the show. He kind of, like, made that poppin in a weird way when he was with the Rockets. But I don't know, man. I just don't trust them long term just because we've seen it time and time again.

And I think at some point, the common denominator, Kim and all this is James Harden. Well, to my, to, you know, people are going to say that. But when you think about James Hardin on Houston, you just said it. They didn't lose the average team. He lost the dynasty. He's in the midst of a dynasty. It isn't like, you know, yo, they lost the Sacramento Kings. You know, he's in the midst of a dynasty.

Then you were the one time you actually could probably go to the finals and you got Chris Paul there, Chris Paul gets hurt. So you're like, damn, this nigga was here. We get to game seven and then we get hurt in game seven. So you don't get to advance. So when he's in Houston, I can't knock him for being in the midst of a dynasty. It's not a lot of teams that beat Golden State during that era. So that's first stuff.

Secondly, he leaves there and then goes to the Nets. You get there, Kevin Durant's hurt, Carries hurt. They may play a total of nine games together. I don't know for a fact stack. You can look that out while I'm talking. Yeah, so you go there thinking that you're going to be playing with Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irvin. 16 games. Kyrie Irvin had his stance on not taking the COVID, the shot.

Kevin Durant was hurt, so you don't go there. Then you get to Philadelphia. It doesn't work out. Kevin Durant leaves. Listen, nobody's there no more. This started off on that team. Kyrie's not there. Kevin Durant's not there.

Kevin Durant's not there. He goes to Philadelphia. Cool. He's the assist leader. And pardon me. He finishes the league, the season being an assist leader playing with Joe Lombie. But that year, you run into a season Boston Celtics who ended up winning. If I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure that's the year that Boston won.

If I'm not mistaken, you can check on that's two stat, just to make sure if I'm right or wrong or not. Okay, cool. that doesn't work out. I'm not going to have no excuse for him, and I have no argument with me, Nick, with him at the Clippers. You know, it's him and Kauai there. They should have got more done. You have no argument with me there.

But then he goes to Cleveland. The thing about it is just the reason why people say James Harton may be the common denominator, and I'm not knocking James Hardin for this. He gets to go where he wants to go. And it's a lot of people that wish they could go where the fuck they want to go. Look, I said I want to go

to motherfucking Brooklyn. Matter of fact, no, I didn't. I said, I wanted to go to Philadelphia. Man, fuck all that. I said, I'm from L.A., man. Put me in L.A. Yo, you think Cleveland can win? What's that way?

Matter of fact, I said me to... He gets his way. So I think a lot of people are mad at that because they don't get their way. We can think about somebody like, Janus right, man, right? We don't know where Yonis want to be. He wants to act like he wants to

in Milwaukee. You want to be on Knicks. He want to be traded. He's under contract, so he's not getting his way. If James Hardin is manipulating the system, he's manipulating the system. But I see why I'm not,

I don't have an argument with you, Nick. I'm just making some points out there while people may say it just doesn't work out for him, but I'm just giving you the other side of equation to where you're saying, you can't blame him in Houston. The nigger led the league in scoring, I believe, three times.

He was out there killing. And every time he tries to get somebody, it just didn't work out. Think about Russell Westbrook, who went there for a minute. You know, the chemistry just wasn't right. But you're in the midst of the Golden State Warrior Dynasty when you're in Houston. Everything after that, you got to realize he wants to rain. He is offered at that time, which was unprecedented at the time, two years, $103 million.

He turned it down in Houston. He could have took that money and me like, fuck it, I just want the money. But he didn't want the money. he won't the win. So he left there to go to the Nets to try and win a championship. So you can't knock him for trying to win because it ain't all money with him. Because if it was all money, he could have been rich as shit still in Houston. Not saying he ain't rich now, but rich here.

Yeah, that's a good point. And then also, like, if you think of football stat, we always be defending Lamar and Josh. Like, yeah, it's not his fault. It's not their fault. They with the Mahomes era. So to his point, that's a good perspective. I never thought about that. It's running into the wrong time.

Yeah. And it's also like, if timing is not on your side, there's nothing you can do about that. So you got to figure it out. It is good to hear both perspectives, though, because you always wondering, like, how does the other person see it like that when you're seeing what's happening? But that's also what that person was for themselves, too. Right. And I'm not arguing with Nick, but you got to, you know, you got to just look at both sides

of the court because there's a lot of people who say what Nick say. It's a lot. James Hong got to be the problem. You got to, look, y'all are younger, so y'all might not know. Michael Joy and fuck niggas careers are, bro. Legends. Patrick Ewan, no championship. Charles Barkley, no championship.

Carl Malone, John St. It's a plethora of NBA Hall of Famous. Reggie Miller, you just run into the wrong niggas at the wrong time in life. And it just be like that sometime. Yeah. And also, I'll add, I think, how you go. about situations matters too because also like from just things that we've seen or like what we've heard from from an office just I think by default sometimes people are kind of like yeah you're the

problem because I mean when we saw that clip all I think of is Daryl Morey is a liar and it's like okay man like I don't know like that's looking kind of crazy so it's like that's the other thing too man like I can't I can't hate someone if they toss me 250 million like responsible for that perception matters like from the public view because we don't know what's going on. So when we see that, sometimes it's like, are you the problem? What happened? Yeah, we'll see with that clip, people don't know the context behind it.

What happened is Darry said, if you sign here, we'll trade you. So he stayed with the sixers and, you know, him and Darren Mori, that's the reason he went to the sixes, I believe. That was his GM when he was in Houston. So when he goes

to the 76s, and he's like, yeah, I don't want to be here. Darren Moore says, do a sign in trade and I got you. That way you can keep some extra bread because you signed here and when you leave you'll have the money. And Darrell Moore signed him and he was taking too long

to trade, James Harder, in which he promised James Harden to trade. So when the trade was taking too long, James Harder looked like, oh, this thing lied to me. I thought this was my man. He told me he's going to sign me. You know what? I'm going to get fat and I'm not coming in games in shape.

That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to just bullshit. and do everything else because he felt betrayed at Daramoree ended up trading them, but it didn't happen as fast as James Harton said it. And if James Harton didn't put that pressure on him in the media and start saying shit like Darren Roy's alive, what do you have even traded him? So you have context behind the clickbait. Yeah.

Power of the media is crazy. I'll say that. Just deteriorates everything. But all great points, great conversation here. Now on to the Lakers, the Lakers beat the Rock is 19. 98 to 78. We see them also move on. Cam, who do you give credit to for the Lakers win?

Who I give the credit to? I give the credit to LeBron James. Listen, man. LeBron James, we still waiting for Mace to bring in whatever proof he's talking about. Oh, there we, here we go. Yeah, yeah. I'm still actually waiting on whatever, whatever say he got some proof he going to bring in. I have no idea what it is.

We haven't heard a scene of proof since, but I'm waiting on it. But LeBron James is just phenomenal, man. You think about, you know, I know we talk about the game in and game out, how he's missing Luca and Austin Reeves just get back and so on and so forth. Because there's a point during the season, and I'm saying to myself, okay, LeBron's, you know, 14 points, 17 points here, 15 points. I'm like, maybe he is getting older. But no, he was playing a role.

that he need to play with Luca Dantich and Austin Reed because as soon as them niggas left out, he turned back into King James. And even King James, pardon me, the whole series. You know, he has 28 points, 37 minutes. I'm not going to sit here and downplay, even though I have a big scoring game with Marcus Smart, him contributing throughout this series.

I always butcher his name to Snat. You say it for me. her tomorrow. Oh, yeah. You're good, you're good. We get it. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to butcher nobody's name.

But he had 21 points. LeBron brings people to rise to that cage. And I always say this about LeBron as opposed to rest and peace to Kobe Bryant, right? Kobe used to have to me the personality, you'd be like, I'm not going to Lakers. I don't want to play with this thing. Because Kobe was strict. Kobe's knocking on your door 4.30 in the morning. Let's go to the wait

from Kobe, no. I just got in. Kobe was really strict to me and ran some players away where you don't want to play with Kobe Brian RIP because I think, don't get me wrong. I think Kobe's one of the best and he demand a lot. Not saying LeBron doesn't demand a lot

but LeBron knows how to get the best out of its players instead of talking down to them. He uplisten them. Like you said, early in the take, Luke Canard, bro. I didn't, where the fuck did he come from? You know, for real, where did he come from?

But you don't have Kevin Durant. I know we're talking about if he won this game, talking about the Rockets, if the Rockets won this game, and we get a game selling Kevin Durant, it would have looked really, really good. But it boiled down to LeBron James being the best play on the four, the highest IQ, not only the oldest, but doesn't look like the most athletic,

the highest IQ. and the most dominant player doing what he need to do. Pardon me, doing what he need to do in the series. He had the most points. DeBreis Smith finished with nine points, Easton 14 points. Sagan, 17.

Sagoen, you know, ever since I took up for him against Denny, he just has not been looking like the player that I thought he once was. And even with Karen Durant out, I'm expecting him to step up more. But he actually hasn't. But all praised the King. James, you win this series because of him.

He's been in this situation plenty of times, and he knows what to get, what he needs to do or how to get the best out of his players. So congratulations to the Lakers. Man, you know, the Lakers, I'm just happy they didn't blow this lead, that being up 3-0, because you knew people had shit in the drafts on Twitter and Instagram and captions, being like, this y'all goat, MJ would never. So from someone that, you know, I respect LeBron, I think it's crazy. that you get punished for losing in the finals where some people and some franchises

I've never been to the finals. I still think, you know, MJ is to go, especially like the last dance. They always, Cam and Mace always talk about like experiencing it and shit. Like seeing that was like really like, yo, bro, it's just levels to it. But with this, though, I think this is a major win for them, not having Reeves, not having Luca. And Houston was supposed to be this dynamic defensive team with pause how long they were defensively and just the way that they play, but pretty

underwhelming from a lot of their guys. And I think it's a pretty bad look for the GM and for EMA to going into the season, we knew about the Van Bleet injury, right? And it's just something that was never addressed at all. Like, how do you not make a move for a dude at the trade deadline? And I'm saying all this. Obviously, I'm saying all this now, Kim, because like, yo, you knew this was going to come down to a point where it was going to cost you. And that's really what it did. Like, yeah, Durant bringing up the ball with three minutes left in the fourth quarter, that's cool every now and there. But consistently,

like, you know, he played the second most minutes in the league. He's 37, right? Like, that's, that's substantial. Yeah. And that's really what it came down to. And LeBron just was able to, a vintage LeBron game, 28, 7 and 8. Like, that's just like a regular night for him. And they balled out and Hachimora dropped 21. Reeves coming back, I think I've calmed them down. And then the Lakers, the Lakers got that random, the random white guy that could just bang threes every now and then Luke Carnard, I think him and Marcus Smart, like, they're the X factors, how I was talking about before, like the random guys, if they could emerge and give

them something consistently, like we're not saying to drop. They had one game where they both had 20 or more. Let's not get that crazy stuff. But I'm talking about just like, can you give us eight and it not be a 12-0 run when and you guys are on the court for the other team. That's what they need. I'm just so upset, Cam, that Luca is, it's like doubtful he'll be back. And if he does come back, it'll be like game six.

I just, would you give them a chance against the Thunder if you knew Luca was going to be healthy? I know what it could have should have, but from what you've seen so far from both teams. No. Fair. It could be that simple. I feel you. I think, I think, I think, I think personally, now, it depends on J. Dubbs' health, too. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? You're going to need J. Dub this next series, especially if you had a Luca. You're going to need them. But I've never, I never thought I see, not acting like I haven't seen a lot of basketball. Devin Booker crying over a suite complaining about what Shea does and how She does. it. You know, they don't even get a game. I don't think, I'm not sure. I don't think, I think that Oklahoma City Thunder is the only team that didn't lose yet in the playoffs. And it isn't like, it's the Atlanta Hawks. It's the Phoenix Suns. You get what I'm saying? So, we know they

didn't do that well this year in the West, considering, you know, they finished the 8th C. But God damn, bro. SGA out here throwing subs in niggas, laughing. He's playing in a halter top in practice. He's know whatever he wanted to do out here, man. It's SGA world. And when you have a second and third option with somebody like Chet, it's just hard to be. Not only that, we talk about depth.

OKC has depth as well. LeBron going to have to take it up to another level. He's going to have to get more out of his team. Oklahoma City Thunder defense is really, really good as well. But I'd be mad if the Lakers won. I don't know. I want to see LeBron go as far as he can.

Right. I love that shit. I love to see records set, history being made, so on and so forth, but it's a tall task to ask against that Oklahoma City Thunder team. but I will say they're going to need J. Dub moving forward and not how healthy he is. That depends. Yeah, definitely always going to give LeBron a lot of credit. It's really hard for me to say anything bad about him just because what we've been able to see to me is absolutely insane.

Even how we all are giving him credit as being like the best ones to really lead this team still at his age and just through all that the team has been through. And I think it's even bigger than the game. It just adds to his legacy as a whole because these are those moments where if they were to lose, people would be like, LeBron couldn't get it. Like all that stuff is out the window. They go on to the next round. So we'll see kind of what happens. And if they are,

because at this point, I don't know, everything in the playoffs has been so unpredictable because this was also a series. I completely thought the Rockets were going to win. I was like, yeah, the Lakers have no chance. And we talked about it.

We were like, who's going to step up? Like, we had no, we didn't think there was an option for the Lakers to win this. And I think I'm speaking for more than just myself because a lot of,

of us had set that up here. So it's just really interesting to see. But then on the flip side, going back to the shit, it would have been really dope to be able to see KD able to play more games because that is like that face to face that I wanted to see. He was only able to play one game this series. So that just sucks because it feels like,

I mean, it's not his fault, but it feels like you're robbed of a good series, just in general as a whole, because then you can go into the Luca conversation, all those things there. But again, made the best team win. We'll see what happened next, but yeah. And then also about like being I think us as NBA fans are being robbed of what could have been a banger series, Thunder,

and the Lakers if, like, Luca was available. Because, like, let's not forget, last time Luca ran into the Thunder, he packed them up when they went to the finals with the Mavs. And he's a dude who, he rises to the occasion, especially against them. So for him with that matchup, I think that would have been, I wouldn't have called an upset, but I think that shit would have been a competitive one because, you know, Luca would go crazy in one of those games style. like he always does.

And it's just one of those where you guys talk about it all the time, Cam, where he's like, this y'all man, this y'all goat? Like, I packed them up before. So it just sucks when dudes get hurt at this time of the year. Yeah, interesting to see. But then we'll see what happens for the next round. There's a lot of good games today that we'll talk about in that next episode. But before we wrap, we want to get into this fight that happened this weekend.

So Benavides had a sixth round knockout of Zerto to capture the WBA and WBO cruiser weight titles. He actually also called out Canelo. He said, I just want to give the fans what they want to see. I saw Canello in the building. Let me just ask the fans this. Do you guys want to see Canelo versus Benavitas? You know, a lot of back and forth.

You've been wanting to see a lot. But, Cam, what are your thoughts? What did you think of his win? Watching this fight, Benevitas, first of all, you got to realize he's still the champion at a hundred seventy-five pounds. He went up 25 pounds to fight Zordor. And when I was, you know, it's a lot of speculation when you go up and wait. Are your punches going to be as powerful as hitting somebody 25 pounds less than you, et cetera, et cetera.

And yes, it didn't, it worked out. The way he beat Zordo up and I've seen it, like it was really bad. And it was powerful. And I'm sitting there watching the family. like, why does Zoro keep coming forward? He's hitting him with non-punch combinations. It was really, really bad. When I, you know, to make a long story short,

my assessment of the fight was it was a great fight for Benavides. And to narrow it down is nobody's going to fight you, dog. Canelo's not fighting you beating people out like, yo, bro, you better go overseas and fight somebody else. After watching that fight, I'm going to find every, excuse in the world if I'm in between 175 and 200 pounds not to fight him.

He hits too hard, he's breaking people face up, and he's a problem. He has the name Monster for a reason, and it's going to be really hard for him to get fights. We talked about it when he was on the show, like, yo, you beat these people up and then you expect somebody to

come fight you. I don't know where Canello was at after the third, fourth round of that fight. He did he bought right the fuck up out of there. Because what the fuck Benavides was doing. Canello's not fighting you, bro. I want you to fight Cannella. I think the Mexican fans would love that.

That's a fight that needs to happen. But if you're Canello and you see that shit, nah, no, why risk it? Why are you even risk it? Sorry, Benavides, you are too good and you're too strong and people would be scared. You might need to move up to heavy waiting for it and go overseas and fight the big boys, bro,

because if you're American boxing between 175 and 200, you do not want them problems, bro. You absolutely do not want them problems, bro. Shout to David Benavita's great fight, great performers, but all I took from that shit is, I'm not getting in the ring with him if I'm a boxer. I think it's fast and powerful, and he breaks people with your family.

If you look at that fight in slow motion, when that last punch, you actually see this dude, I explode. Literally. So that's what I took for me. He's going to be hard for him to get good fights. Yeah, that's an orbital bone. I've seen that shit too.

Like, that was just, he can't even say he quit. He probably couldn't see out of that shit. But he was getting pieced up. I got to go to that fight. Shout out to Kenneth from PBC. Shout out to Cam for hooking it up, as always. Side note, it was dope to see the talk with Fleet logo everywhere. Yes.

That was fire. And to the girls I was sitting next to you, I didn't lie. I am a part of all this shit. telling them. So I did use it as a pickup line for short. I'm screaming. I was like, oh, D.B., like, that's my man. So, like, you know, David Benadvinist? I was like, yeah, he was on the show. So, you know, I'm here. I wasn't lying, but. Nick using this for his dating life. How'd that work. I don't got a girl. I can't get in trouble.

So back to this, though. That was pretty dope to see. I was talking to Camel out and shout to sin he was in the building too. But like, yo, he's never fighting Canello because he's like six to six three. And Conello walked right by us at. And, and, I'm taller than him. And, and like, it's now, he just fought at 200 pounds. He probably walks around there because I heard a post fight that he weighs, he normally weighs like 205. So he didn't really need to, you know, the weight cut was easy for him because it was

him fighting at 200. But, yo, he looked fast as shit, was piecing him up. And the power definitely translated because you saw it. But even if the power don't translate at heavy, at heavyweight or cruiser weight, when you're over 200, like, those, those punches, are way more devastating, and he was just on volume, just piecing him up bad. So, like, sure, he might not have the one-punch knockout power at the heavier weight classes because they also said that, you know, he'll be 30 next year, Benavides.

He's still pretty young in fight terms. Like, yo, can you go to heavyweight? He's like, yeah, maybe down the road. Like, they always say power is the last thing to go. But, like, the speed is going to be there. So he might be a guy that, yeah, he might not have that one-punch knockout power as it gets to heavier weight classes, but he might hit him. you like 250 times and eventually in the later rounds. And that's what I think you saw with Zordo.

Yeah. Even when we were going over our predictions when we did the PBC opening bell, I think a lot, like Zerdo was not as much as the favorite, but a lot of people were choosing him because of his stronger punches, which to me, I feel like most of the time speed is going to outweigh because that's definitely going to slow down your opponent a lot more. So again, shout out to Benavitas for this win. And then this Canelel fight, even though it would be dope to see because I just like to see people go head to head. You see that and it's like, ah, it's like, yo, bro, if I'm in Canello's team, I'm like, yo, bro, let's not get too. Maybe not, maybe not do that one. Yeah, yeah. It might not be the time. And also another thing, it's funny when you just bring up him being

shorter than you had thought, I think even just with celebrities in general, I think people automatically assume that they're like, at least I thought this. A lot of people were like taller or whatever and that's usually never the case. And then you meet because, you know, you're seeing boxers and fighters and certain athletes. And you're like, yeah, he's got to be. It's like, oh, no, they're not. No, but on the flip, yeah, not, I feel you. But on the flip side, too, like when Tyrese Halliborne was in here,

I was like, damn, you pretty. I mean, MBA is the exception, but I feel like, yeah, yeah, everything else. Because even, like, Cam is really tall. Like, every time I meet people, like, you would be surprised how much people are actually really short because I'm pretty tall. So I, that's the first thing I always notice because I'm 5'8.

So I'm like that. But that's for a lot of people. I think a lot of people don't notice that. And Canello, like, yes, he's Canello. he is a lot smaller. Yeah, yeah. And at that, at that point, like, nah, it's like 30 pound weight difference, six, two, to five, seven and a half, five eight, let's just say, no, he shouldn't do that.

Yeah. But then again, congrats to Benavides, because, of course, going up 25 is no easy task. He did that. We'll see, you know, be awaiting for this next fight. There's a lot of fight speculations that we're hearing. Nothing's fully, fully, fully confirmed, but we'll see kind of what happens next. But y'all, that is all the time. have for today. Nick's thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me.

Yeah Nick good job man. Thank you. Thank you. Cam, you're the man. You know, I fuck with you. I love you. No pause. But I do gotta say this during the Pistons Magic game, not once but twice. He said they had a problem getting it up. So I'm out of here. And the show's that. When did I say that? See, he's walking away. He's walking away. He said he's going to play the repay. All I know is he's going to use this against his next day. He's going to be like, yeah, I I told him this, so go ahead, Nick, go crazy. Whatever works for you. Hey, listen, man, whatever works, man.

Listen, like I said, Trista will be waiting on Trista, you know, Sin City, Nick, die-ass. All y'all are panicking there. All y'all are panicking because, you know, when the Nick's advanced to the second round, everybody's like, yeah, what's going on with Cleveland? What's going on with Detroit? Just takes a little longer. Everything is right on schedule.

Only people that didn't make it was Boston, and I'm not mad with a Philly replacement. East Coast, Eastern Conference is right on schedule. Pause, whatever you want to say. That sounds like nervous energy to me. See, he's so smooth because the spurs are so smooth right now, but may the strongest survive, y'all. But thank y'all for watching.

And as always, it is what it is. The Pistons, they were having problems, getting it up. The pistons, they were having problems getting it up.