IT IS WHAT IT IS - CAM'RON GOES OFF ON JA & ZION FOR THEIR PROBLEMS OFF THE COURT & TOMLIN OUT IN PITTSBURGH!

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

Cam'ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are here with another one!! On this episode, Maurice Clarett is back and he got rid of the Quarter Zip and he looking real Presidential! We start the show talking about Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh mutually departing after 19 years, what's next for both? Next, Ja Morant is rumored to be traded but is his value even high anymore and Zion Williamson once again is in the headlines for everything BUT basketball Mike Tomlin Out (0:00) Ja Morant Dilemma (13:00) Big City Vs. Small City (32:00) Zion Williamson Only Fans Model Drama (46:15) What do you think? Tell us in the comments below Please Like the video, comment, subscribe & turn on your post notifications for more content. Listen to the show on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/4Brb7BgCw4f4jwgS5v3sXQ?si=811988ecff7b416a Listen to the show on Apple Podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/it-is-what-it-is/id1719695401 Sign up with promo code IIWII and play $5 to get $75 in bonus entries! https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-itiswhatitis #UDpartner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Lock in your bonus and start playing today with code. It is what it is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Cam. Mace will be back. And today we are joined with our analyst Maurice Claret. Mo, what's up, man? Back to the suit, huh? Yeah.

I told you. Yeah, like caught a zip. That got you kicked out the playoffs. Stats. I caught a zip one yesterday. They're next. Or the other day, rival, she had a Miami corner zip one.

Whoa, don't say they next. He's trying to jinx everything. I'm the jinx. I'm not saying that you're the jinx. I just got to go by observing by what I see. I ought to call it like I see it. That's it. I hope that they went on the strength of it.

You know, I don't know anybody on Indiana. Thank you. But if I, like I said, I have a job to do. And when I see things happen, I've seen things happen. I actually told everybody before this happened yesterday then, you know, Mike Tomlin is going to step down and he actually so down.

You can make the face. You go to the video. Yeah, you did say that. I don't know. I got to call it like I see it. Sometimes I got a crystal ball pause. And I see things. And then, you know, like I said,

that doesn't even know I already set up security around the stadium just to make sure that when she gets out of there, she's good. So. Man, I appreciate that. But I'm not the jinx. I'm feeling good. I'm always feeling good, though, except I was not feeling good yesterday.

Everybody, uh, seen that. So, but I'm feeling good. I'm in good spirits and I'm hopeful. That's my word. Mike used hope, so I'm feeling hopeful. We'll go with that. There we go. Yes, but Maris, great to see you.

Um, no quarter zip like Cam said. But fortunately, you're going to start with, quarter zip, you've been good. Yeah. Yeah. So we're going to actually start with football. Then we have a stacked basketball schedule today. So like Cam said, Mike Tomlin has stepped down as head coach from the Steelers after 19 season.

So Maurice, what do you think is next for Mike T and the Steelers? Well, I was asking myself this earlier. And what I think me personally, I would roll off into the sunset and get into media somewhere. And I was thinking to myself like he's only 53. you know, he's spent basically like a lifetime with one brand. He's just one of those coaches that I would not want to see him coaching for somebody else. You know, I wouldn't want him to go into the division and coach for anybody else, not the Ravens or anybody else.

As much as I love like his blackness, I couldn't see him down in Atlanta. I wouldn't want to see him there. I wouldn't want him to go ruin his legacy and go out to the Raiders. And there was nowhere that I can basically see Mike Tom and coaching football. I think he's just one of those legendary people. that he just fits with one brand and that's it. And so I thought to myself, like, you know, he can go into media, he's young, he can enjoy his life, you do some consulting, and you just leave on top, you know, just what it is.

In regards to the Steelers, I thought that they would make a real push and pursuit for Marcus Freeman, who's at Notre Dame. And when I heard people talk about it, they think that he mimics like the same value system that Mike Tomlin had, you know, when he first became the Steelers Head. a coach. And so they probably think like, hey, since we don't have a history of turning over coaches, maybe if we give him 10 or 15 years and have him mature with the program, that he would basically, you know, fit the Steelers brand of football, being from Ohio, but, you know, growing up around just football in general. So that's what I thought for the Steelers. But in regards to

Mike Tomlin, I don't see him being somebody else's coach, but that's just me, you know, but I don't know what y'all think about it. Mo, you said leave on top. Leave on top. on top of what, nigga? Fuck, what do you? What do you mean? Leave on top. Listen to me.

The top of what? Of course. What is he leaving on top of? 500? He went out in the playoffs. That's what I'm saying. So at least it wasn't like he went three and 12 or three and four to you know what he lost his last seven playoffs game.

Leave on top of what, nigga. I'm trying to figure out what you mean, leave on top. I don't know what you're talking about more. I know you're trying to give the black man his praise, and I thought that was nice to you, man. Y'all, I think he had a sensational career at Pittsburgh as well.

Now, look, I'm not going to sit here and discredit this, man. It's not easy to have 19 seasons of not a losing season ever. But I think Mace made a tremendous point. And actually, it's even funnier that yesterday, Mace made that point yesterday morning. and then when I watched some other afternoon sports shows, they actually said the same thing, Mason. I was like, look at Mace actually making sense.

Hey, this was a miracle. I said, no, niggas ain't watched it for in the morning. Get the fuck out of here. But, you know, even if they didn't see it, they actually said the same thing that Mace said to the point where he wins too much not to get good picks. you know what I'm saying? And they were basically saying that they should,

and I've seen another analyst say this, saying that Mike Tomlin, this before that he actually stepped down, he should probably, you know, for a lack of better words, tank, you know, they're saying it politely. And he would be the best coach to rebuild Pittsburgh from the ground up.

You know what I'm saying? So they would basically say, look, forget the quarterback. Don't worry about a quarterback. forget whoever needs to be re-signed. Let's not do good and rebuild and get some draft picks. And they were saying Mike Tomlin may be the coach to do that. This was all before he stepped down, though.

And I was like, you know, when May said it yesterday, I was like, that's true. You don't have a good enough team to win the Super Bowl, but you don't have a bad enough team to get early draft picks. I'm like, you stuck right in the middle, pause. So when he stepped down, I thought that it saved him and the Steelers a lot of media speculation the next two weeks, the next month, the next so-and-so. Yo, what's Mike going to do?

They're going to keep Mike, and they're not going to keep Mike, and they're going to do this. And I believe he has enough respect for the Steelers organization that he says, I'm not going to put either one of us through this. We had a great run. We won a Super Bowl out of it. We didn't have any losing seasons, whether that led the playoff wins or not. It was a great career with the Pittsburgh. Steelers. And look, maybe he may take a year off or to the coast.

Me personally, and I know most of it may be getting the media, I think he talks great, has a lot of great quarter bulls, says a lot of fly shit. But the petty nigga and me is going to the Ravens. I'm going to the Ravens ASAP, nigga. Fuck you. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello two times a year. Fuck is going on. I'm going with the black quarterback here. I got my nigga Lamar here, nigga, Derek Henry, you're shaking, nigga,

you're shaking, nigga. You know, flowers, what we doing? Yeah, let's go black on black crime on these niggas. Yeah, let's go. Since niggas is like they don't know what to do, like I don't know what's probably.

I'm going immediately to the Ravens tonight. If I'm Mike Tomlin, it's no question, what I'm going to do? I'm not going to Cleveland. I'm not going to the Raiders. I think that it's a sensational opportunity for any coach that goes to Atlanta

with that core players they out there. Cameron Jowles, if Mike Tomlin, car track. Figure that shit out. Figure that shit out. We went to Ravens and like, yo,

Ma-Ma-Mar, what's good? They're acting crazy? What we doing? Ma-M-Mah, Ma-Mah, what's good? Yo, what's happening, man? Yo, we're D.H.

I'm going to D.A., we're shaking, yo. You ready? Let's get this blackness popping, nigger. Let's go. We're in Baltimore. The wire,

nigger, let's go. I'm Omar. That's where I'm going. Me personally. So, Mike Tom. Yeah, so I ask, no, so I ask myself.

Don't get scared nail stack, but that's scary. I'm not scared. I'm just saying, that's a scary sight to see, niggas. If you sit there and the advertisement is Mike Tomlin in the middle, Lamar Jackson, Derek, Henry, you like, oh, now there's some black shit going on. This could be a dangerous right here. This shit could get wild, nigger. You're like, oh, shit, you got to start doing all this.

You start doing all this. I don't know, y'all, niggas. They were favorites to one last year, now they might be favorite favorites to one. I'm just saying, that's me. I don't know what Mike going to do, but Mike, take that job if it's available, nigga. We would love to see more blackness. Nigger, that shit would go crazy right there.

Niggins will be walking into Baltimore like this, black fists in the air, nigga. They might change the logo up, nigga. That's just that. That's what I mean to cut you off, my bad. No, no, but I was asking myself, it depends on, like, if it was like the breakup, right? So this might be the politically correct version

hey, you step down, but he probably wanted to stay. And it all depends on, like, how things separate it. But I also told my dude when he was talking about, I said, man, if he goes to Baltimore, that would be the nigger of the most niggiest team in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nigga. I like it. I like it a lot. Word.

I like it a lot. I can say I don't like it. Don't want to see that happen. Let me just butt in here. First of all, it's very bittersweet because I do still think my talk. Tomlin is a great coach, even though you all tried to grill me about where I think he should go and what he should do. I never said I wanted him to go. I never said that. And I also just think with Mike Tomlin leaving, that brings other questions because I also feel like other players might want out because I think that he was the reason a lot of people really also wanted to play for this dealer.

So I think it just brings us into a whole rebuilding period as a whole. And then we still don't know what's happening with Aaron Rogers, but like we can assume and know. know what's happening with Aaron Rogers. So it's like, then what happens with quarterback? Like I know everybody's like, oh, maybe we should start building with the younger quarterback. And we do have Will Howard from Ohio, which is a possibility, but it's just like we don't exactly know where we're going to go with that. Just overall, like, I'm happy with the way that they did it though, because you can see that there's a lot of respect by them saying that he stepped down as coach and kind of giving him that decision even if he didn't have that decision himself. because looking at the Ravens size, as we're talking about the Ravens,

how they handled Harbaugh to me was crazy because, yes, they fired him. And then there was a press conference, and they asked the owner of the Ravens, they asked him, they were like, if Tyler Loop had made that field goal, would Harbaugh still be coach? And he literally responded for a week.

So I feel like that was a brutal response. I feel like that was crazy because it's like how long Harbaugh's been there just as long as Mike Tomlin's been with the Steelers. I just feel like that's not how you treat. somebody who has at least put a lot of effort into your organization. So really on the flip, I'm not saying I want Harbaugh to be our coach, but like that's to me the one that would make more sense because that's a little bit of vengeance.

It's like, okay, Beth, like you talking like me crazy at the press conference. Let me show you all something. But I do think Mike Tomlin should choose peace. So I think if he wants to take a little break for a year, that's fine. And then he just comes back to his senses and see where the league goes so he can be in a good situation. cool. Great. Love that. But I don't want to go to the Ravens. Yeah, I bet you don't. If I was a still a fan, that's the last place I would want to go. I wouldn't want to see that nigga twice a year and either. Nope. But shout out Mike T. We will see what happens to him next.

Okay, so moving along to basketball. So the Grizzlies are open to trade calls for Jaw, Morant. So just overall, Maurice, do you think that this is a good decision? and then where do you see Jai going? I know it's speculation and just guesses, but what do you think? Yeah, me personally, I think it's good for John Moran's career. And I'm always a dude who's optimistic about, you know, dudes who get in trouble and eventually, you know,

getting into an environment where they can turn themselves around. And, but I just have a preference just looking at the small town he had came from with South Carolina. I would probably ship him to, not to call Indiana, a small town, but I was thinking, like maybe the Pacers, maybe up to Milwaukee. And I even thought down to Orlando of just places he can go to contribute, be a piece, and probably, you know, get a chance to just focus back on basketball.

And I don't think that Jha has a, as I have a personal problem. I think Jha has probably like an environment problem. And, you know, just the environment that you win that allows you to grow, focus on basketball, probably mimic something that you grew up around in South Carolina before you got all this money and got into just different places where, you know, you're just doing a whole lot of shit that don't make sense. And he can be the superstar. So, you know, those are a few of my places. You know, obviously go to Milwaukee and, you know, hook up with Janus.

But I just don't know who they would give up for them. You know, that's what makes it tough. Indiana, I don't see them get rid of Halliburton or one of their significant pieces in the East when they already made a championship run. But then I thought, what is the name? I always mess up the kids' name down in the, Orlando, what is it called, Saloven Ventura, whatever's name is? Hollow Benkero. Yeah, I always messed his name up, but I had seen him play last year, and I just thought to myself,

if Jah, I don't want to see him in Miami, I just don't think it'd be good for him to be in Miami. I thought like if he went to Orlando and add an additional piece to Orlando, that Orlando can be competitive, and then he'll get with the kid who he was playing in Memphis witness down there as well. So those are my three teams that I would send him to, but it's probably more important to him to a smaller market. just so he can focus like those dudes down at O KC, just focus on basketball.

So let me ask you this for I get my opinion, are you saying that Memphis is a big market and he can't focus? I'm saying Memphis is a nigger town. And I think that when you got kids, yeah, I think when you got like, you know, this is just a different conversation, right? You ever meet kids who grow up and they don't really grow up in a black town, but it's like a fascinating, for them to show off that they're a nigger

or their blackness. And I see this with like a lot of college kids where you end up getting into environments where you want to prove that you're a nigger. But for people who grew up in it, yeah, he's... And I think it's a that thing with him and in regards to his pops, I think his pops kind of, is like living through the child.

Like, I got the child's money, I got the child's status. I can fuck these olds. I can be number one. And I think the person who should be leading you is actually acting like your homeboy rather than a mentor, right? And if he gets to where it's just basketball and I just don't have to have that nigger energy off the court, like I love Orlando because Orlando ain't distracting. It's a tourist city. You can kind of relax. You can go there. You can play basketball, go home.

And the spirit of the city ain't like hearty vibes and all this other crazy shit. You go to Indiana. It's a Midwest town. It's small. You go play basketball. You go home. If he goes to be around. That's what I'm talking about.

But I just think, nigger, like, I would love to see him go to Houston, but Houston just has too many distractions for a nigger who ain't never seen nothing. But I think it's the same thing with Zion. That's just my opinion with John Moran. That was a very, very good take on.

Yeah, that was excellent. Orlando would be ideal, but Desmond Bain is there. We've seen the Desmond Bain and John Moran project not necessarily pan out. Think about it, but then at the same time. I'm brainstorming while I'm talking to you. They actually were

pretty good when they, you know, one year they almost was, they was ahead of the Golden State Warriors in the playoffs 2-1 and then John Morant got hurt on the year Jordan Pool was done. And I was saying that, yo, Memphis is all right. And then the distractions came.

You know, that's why I wanted to get more clarity on what you're saying and you broke it down, better than you could break it down. I don't know if people see John Morant's new celebration. His new celebration the other night when he scored, he went like this, pointing his gun and then say, to act like he's talking to somebody. Then somebody else that was imagining he put the gun down and he put it in his hip.

And I said, I don't know. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? What we do it, man. What I really believe is this, right? In my opinion, you couldn't have broke that damn better from the father to the small town, South Carolina, to Memphis. being a nigger tail.

Listen, you broke it down way better than any other analysts that I ever heard talk about the John Morant situation. I don't have nothing else to add on, but just trying to figure out where he maybe could go. And I don't know, because you think about

this, he's owed a bunch of money, and do you really want that headache as well if your organization? You know, you can have meetings with him, and you can sit there and say, hey, was that just you acting out because you didn't want to be there anymore? Or were you bad with the organization?

Are we going to get John Morant who could be a team player? They're all getting older now. So as a GM, you might not want to deal with the attitude off the court that he brings to the table. I think me personally, on top of everything you said, Mo, I think personally that he thinks this helps him what he does off the court. marketing wise. Marketing to be the main Y-N. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

His sneakers sell out in an hour or less. The young niggas love him more than anybody else as far as their favorite basketball player. So to me, my personal opinion is, I don't know if this attitude will stop because off the court, it's marketable for his brand. Nike ain't getting rid of him. That's interesting.

Yeah, Martin, but I agree with you. saying, it's a GM's nightmare. It's a organization's nightmare to have this attitude. But he's saying, it's working. For me, off the court is working. My sneaking's selling out. All the young niggas love me, I'm their favorite point guard, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

But it's not equaling out to the wins that they were having in his early success. Not only that, injuries are also plaguing him. So therefore, we're not getting John Morant, but 50. games a season, if that. You know what I'm saying? So, Mo, you've been a great take.

I thought it was sensational. And, you know, no, absolutely. And even to the point with his dad, you know what I'm saying? No disrespect to anybody father or mother. I don't, I'm not here to disrespect parents. But we see you, nigger. You know what I'm saying? We can see you on the sidelines.

Almost fighting, shit in this shop. Yo, your shit is wild. So we see the enjoyment that he's getting because a lot of people don't know. John Moran's father was a basketball player too. He's just a make-it pro. You know, he played with Ray Allen and so on and so forth. So when you're almost there and don't get there, then you can train your son, not just train your son.

He's a great dad. Let's not get that fucked up. But the actions that we see that it makes us have caused to pause. But we ain't going to see. I've seen the 30 for 30 where they have the video on Facebook back in the days when John Morant training. Team Morant got in his backyard, jumping over tires, jumping over fences,

playing all the kids in his backyard playing. He trained John Morant to be the pro that he is. And then John Morant didn't have any scholarships going from high school to the college. And then he went to Chris Paul's camp, if I'm not mistaken, and got that one scholarship to where he went and played and he dominated for two years.

And ended up being the second draft pick. It's like the number two draft picked in that lead, you know, after Zion, but you know, he may walk around with that edge too. Like, the guy, I have no motherfucking college office. Lucky, the other nigga needed some Doritos and looked in there and looked and see me playing to where I just went to captivated the country for two years and now I'm the overall two, second-old draft pick. Like Draymond Green, he walks around with that chip on his shoulder to where, you know,

his city isn't necessarily off the court, but Draymond Green was the first pick in the second If you asked J.Mond Green today who was drafted before him, he will name all 35 players that were drafted before him, like literally, like not exaggerate. I see him doing an interview. He names 35 people that got picked before him. You know what kind of mental shit that you got to be walking around with and that's like the chip on your shoulder to remember every last nigga that was picked before you? That's a different type of chipper. I'm not saying John Moray has that, but that maybe his attitude, but more, I thought you broke that down cessationally. Yeah, that was really good.

Respectfully, of course. Okay, so a little bit more about Joe before he move on. So he's missed over 100 games since 2023 between injuries and suspension. So just, Maris, I'm curious. How high do you think his value is? Because we're talking about a whole bunch of different factors, but like they're talking about potentially trading him. Like, what do you think you would get?

Yeah, that's a tough thing. Because when people think about him, they think. that they're getting like the version of like Derek Rose super athletic explosive take the person off the dribble come down a lane you dunk and all of that but it's the off the field not off to feel off the court stuff that becomes a question and i think that's what they're having a tough time doing they're like you know we have a Lamborghini we have a Ferrari but the Ferrari is running like a Chevy you know or it's operating like a Chevy or so teams don't have that they they don't know what his value is because there are so many variables.

And then when it comes to the other teams, I'm pretty sure that they'll want to put all these controls in its contract to try to drive behavior to incentivize them. And I'm pretty sure if you're aging, you're probably working against that and said, hey, I don't know. I don't want that to be the case because, like, I just don't know. So I don't know it's tricky. And I don't know if this would be a multi-team trade.

I don't know what it is. But I think even the fact that they've put him up on the trading block, it probably took a long time. time to get there and they're probably saying, hey, let's take him to the market and let's see what other people will at least give us for him to just evaluate what they think he's worth. So I don't know. That's why I can't say we're here on land because I can't look at somebody else and say, hey, let me give a proven marquee player for somebody who's a question mark. So my answer is I don't know. That's a great question, stat, because let's think about this, right? Right now, considering that the salary cap goes up, you know, the last couple years every year. Right now, John Moran is pretty cheap, you know, as an acquisition compared to what somebody's getting. And I'm looking at it right now, right?

This year he's making $39,000, $400,000, rounding off, of course. Next year he's making $42 million. The year after that, he's making $45 million, right? And I'm looking at somebody is Jason Tatum's contract, right? Jason Tatum this year is making $58 million. next year is $63 million. Year after that, $67 million, and the year after that, $71 million.

So right now, compared to what niggas is getting, this is kind of like you at the auction. You know what I'm saying? I'm not downplaying it because the salary cap has went up since he's been in the NBA. But if you're paying people over $50 million a year now, and his next two years are less than $45 million, A year, you might want to take a chance when you're at GM.

But do you really want to take a chance or somebody who's missed a hundred games in the last two and a half years? Somebody who could potentially say, throw a grenade is a celebration. You know, you want to fight this down and the third. But if I'm looking at the salary cap, I'm looking at what's going on as far as the salary cap keep going up, you may want to take a chance while the time track is still low.

And John Morant may have a chip on his. shoulder to where he says, I'm going to show Memphis that I still can ball. I still am that nigger. Because we have to think about this. When Jabber rant was that nigga, we seen him doing the gritty. We see him doing that shit? Yeah. He was sending Anthony Edwards home that day.

He did the gritty. When he was doing that shit with Dylan Brooks. That was on Minnesota court sending Ant Man home. Since then, Ant Man has transcended to be a superstar. in this league. You understand? John Morant, let's think about that.

John Morant was ahead of Ant Man at one particular time. John Moran was trying to figure out if they wanted to make him the face of the league. And people have came and stepped up. And now, let's think about this. Jalen Brunson, which is considered to a lot of people to be the best point guard, at least on the East Coast.

You know what I'm saying? You know, I don't necessarily consider Donovan Mitchell, a pure point guard. You know, he could play the one or two, even though he's a little undersized pause for the two. But if we're talking about point guards, you know, on the East Coast, definitely, you know, we're saying that Jaylon Brunson's the best. If we're looking at the West Coast, we're looking at somebody like Luca Dantzich being the best point guard. And man, pardon me, John Moran was in these conversations.

So when you think about somebody like Jaylon Brunson definitely came and surpassed him as far as this is concerned, at the moment. Then you have somebody like Ed, man, even though he's not a point guard came and surpass him at the moment, John needs to be somewhere, my opinion, where he's saying, all, cool, let me show niggas. Because he definitely wants to show niggas, my opinion, but where's that going to be at? I'm not sure. But if you get them right now for the next two years under $45 million, I think that's a steal, considering what the market is paying right now. I do want to ask something. Yeah, I want to add something. And just just because I'm around it and sports science has progressed so much, right?

And what I mean by that is that when you have more guys who keep getting injured, it just shows one thing that they're not taking their recovery serious. And I can like pinpoint data that all these people have on all these teams, excuse me, so for those who don't know, a lot of these athletes, they end up getting these monitors put inside of their shoes. And it has how much pressure is on your left foot, how much is on your right foot, how many miles you read, and people monitor this stuff. And then they also have metrics and mechanisms for you recovering.

And they'll tell you 1,000% of the time, they say, man, if an athlete keeps getting injured, it's only for two reasons. It's either you're doing a bunch of soft tissue damage or you're not taking a recovery series because you either drinking, drugging, or fucking. That is literally what they say in Yukon. That's literally what they say in Ohio State. And I imagine if he's at the Memphis Grizzlies, they have the same sports signs. So when I say going to a new market, get with a new team, be around something that you have a different lifestyle. all this stuff might contribute just to him being healthier. And environment plays a huge role.

I think we minimize it at times. Even his father, you know, his father might get into an environment where that niggas shit just ain't acceptable. And people just say, yo, bro, like, it's just time for you to grow up. And, you know, I'm not taking shots, but I don't mind speaking certain shit about certain people just because sometimes people need to hear shit.

It was times I needed to hear shit. And sometimes, like the father got to be a father at some point. And since he has, that connection, he's probably more influential than anybody else. He should be leading the way I say, yo, my son has to, you know, in the prime of his life, he can make 30, 40, 50 million dollars. I need to preserve it because that shit don't stick around for him. Okay, so we keep bringing up environment. So we're going to go to break. When we return, we will discuss the best environments for a player. Don't go anywhere.

Okay. Hey, you want to put the light on it. DJ, the dime life brand. It's serious. I love that shirt you got on. Like this and your bank account is that much? You say whatever the fucking want a second. Rally around him with that, you know, the picture of his daughter sitting on the lap, the LSU player. Will we have it as you can join us?

Man, thank you for having me. Look, I tell you. Okay, let me tell you like this. I got too much money to be fighting. We ain't got that number. And we've taken that song a long time and made it our anthem. Paul A. Jenkins. I even put your bullshit-ass book up here on my, you know what I mean.

Welcome to start with the facts. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day tonight. The Cavs will play the Sixers. Underdog has Tyrese maxi at 27 and a half points. Do you have them higher or lower? Higher. Okay.

Joel M. B is at 25 and a half. Lower, man. I know he's been playing a little decent. I ain't even listen, man. Listen, I ain't sold yet. I know you're back a little bit. You're looking at eye. Listen, you're a MVP. You're supposed to be that nigga. You're on Lippian. Lower. Do it again. Do it again. Tyree's Maxie team right now. Where the fuck is Paul George? Fuck is he at. Shit's crazy, man. Got it. Donovan Mitchell is at 26 and a half points. higher.

Higher. Okay. Make sure you all down on the underdog app and you can make your picks too. So speaking of environment, there's just a couple things here. So it feels like Zion and Jha up to this point, people can argue they haven't reached expectations set by teams and fans. So Maris, you started talking about it a little bit, but we might as well kind of define it and get deeper into it. What do you think is the best environment for a player? And this can be in NBA.

This can be in football, college football. like what is what's going to make like an elite player the best environment no and i'm just speaking from experience my you you have to take into account uh where these people come from and what you've seen coming up and you know when i look at zion when i look at jah and what environment did those dudes flourish in and what we're like the surrounding factors and for zion being in new orleans for job basically being in memphis if i was advising both of them i would try to create a professional environment that mimics something like that where these dudes can just focus on a sport and all these other variables that end up taking all of the attention. I would do it like that. And so,

excuse me, for like if I'm recruiting anybody, you know, I didn't grow up, I grew up in the town of 100,000 people, right? And so just my mind and how I view the world and how I view friendships is really going to coincide with that. It's not to say that you can't, you know, grow into a bigger city, but like if you stop allowing the main thing to be the main thing because you get into all this other shit, then you're kind of distracting yourself from the mission. So I don't have a team off the top of my head in regards to Zion, but I would probably try to mimic that same environment

that you first got a chance to know me in. Because like even with Zion, when you think about when he went to Duke, he didn't have these issues. He was in an environment where he was conducive to like, okay, the standard of behavior was up here. You weren't allowed to operate down here at a lower level. And then he became Zion to the world. The moment he gets around niggas and he can just

kind of be a nigger in New Orleans and do all the shit that he's doing with the only fans, models and all this other stuff, that side came to, that side came out to the world. And just me, I'm about to always said I'm 42 years old, I'm still a full-fledged nigger, so I just stay away from nigger environments because I'm just going to do nigger shit, you know what I'm saying? And it's a reason I live in the country. I'm just not good to be around nigger shit because I'm just going to turn into a nigger, but you have to know that. And so, you know, you live life accordingly once you know, like, who's, you know, like,

who you are. So that's just my, my thoughts on it. Which we'll get into that OnlyFans clip, too, by the way, but Cam, your thoughts. My, Moe is 100% right. It's called saving yourself, because I'm the same way. You gotta save yourself, yo. You know if you go certain places, that you're gonna revert back to their old ways,

and it's called saving yourself. I dig that so much, Mo. Because you know, I'm getting older, a little older, and my young boys to be with me, They starting to be like, Kim, don't start that old shit, nigga. Sugar, digger, hate it. Sugar, digger, hey. Oh, Shug, I'm getting old.

Don't start it, Kim. Don't start that shit. We're going out, nigger. We, no, shug, I can't do it no more. You don't look that old, we're going to, we're going to get these. I'll be like, Shug, they don't want me to get old. They don't want me to have a girlfriend. They don't want me to retire.

They just don't want none of this shit. Because it's been a ball for them since they was 14 years old. They've been with me since they're 13, 14 years old. I said, do you realize you've been to me since you was literally 14 years old? You're 37. He said, I'm 37. This is what the nigga said. He said, I'm 37.

I say, yes, you're 37. You're not even a little nigga no more. He said, you sure, niggins start counting the year on his finger like this. He said, hey, nah. I say, yo, yeah, I love shit winding down. So I get what you saying more when they come to that, yo. You got to say yourself, man. man, and don't put yourself, I'm not talking about Zion or

job around, I'm going to get to that minute. Talk about me and you. We know what's best. We've been there, nigger. We gotta do what's best for us at this particular day. I told me, I'm talking to that niggas yesterday. I said, Mace, you gotta do the math, right? Look, if you lucky, when you turn 45, you might got,

if you're lucky, you might got 30 summers left. Yeah. The way it is. You can, you might have 25, 30 summers left. If you're lucky. Some niggas is on 10, and you got habits, bad habits, you got 10 summers left. You don't even know.

You know what I'm fair? I get to, like, when you get older, you start doing wild shit. Like, you, let's say, for instance, you don't eat three times a day, right? Let's say you eat twice a day. So that's 730 meals. a year. And then you times that, you got 15,000 meals left.

Then you better take you got to eat decent, man. You don't try thinking about this, man. I dig that shit you're saying, man. But back to athletes. Listen, man, environment matters. And what happens is this. That's why even your last take when you talked about Jai,

Memphis is a niggatown, so on and so forth. And he comes from a small town. That was absolute take. And it's kind of connecting to this take, right? I went to college. See, you went to school mode down the road. You know what I'm saying? Not saying Columbus isn't a bigger town and a young town,

but you was in state. You wasn't that far from able to get home. I went to school in Corsicanor, Texas. You know, that's a small town between Dallas and Waco, and it's a culture shock when you get there. And this is your first time when you're a young person being away from home. So now you're a grown-up in your brain. You know, you've been living with your parents or me, for me, my grandparents.

And now I'm on my own. I'm living in a dorm. I have to shop for myself. I'm doing this down and third. But I'm in a town in a city or a town that is not necessarily even close to New York. Nigger, they talk about, yo, the KKK used to be over there. And yo, the Crips is down there. You know, it was just a whole culture shock

to where I ended up getting kicked out of school because this was the Walmart. You could go buy Doritos, underwear, and guns from. You know what I'm saying? Nigger, you know, I'm saying? I, you know, man where guns are illegal. If you get one, you go into jail, et cetera, to being able to walk in Walmart.

Walmart doesn't do it now, but the earlier Walmarts, you could walk in and buy guns, shotguns, handguns, all. Like, when Walmart first started, you buy Doritos, underwear, two-paces, and the 9 millimeter. And that's what I did. And it was a culture shock.

You know what I'm saying? It was a culture shock for me. So now let's throw Nial in it. You know what I'm saying? Let's throw, I'm the star of the team. I wasn't the saw my team. I sprayed my leg, I tore them ligaments. And I was in junior college.

I wasn't even at the university. You know, being a star of the team, then you leave not just a star of a college, now you're a star in the NBA. You got a lot of people don't really. realize your brain is not fully developed at 21 years old or 22 years old. Sometime it would people mature quicker than other people. But I'm sitting there saying, I use this example all the time.

Imagine my nigger sugar digger with 200 million. He even loses this motherfucking mind. He's 30-something. Imagine a 21-year-old, the 22-year-old sign for 200 million. You can't expect them to be sane. You know what I'm saying? That's why when you bought up the T Moran situation, I'm like, yeah, you got a guy that a nigga.

Because the nigga who signed that, that's just the NBA contract. Now, whatever you get the sneaker deal for another 200 million. Man, I got 400 million. I'm 22. I'm going to act crazy, dick. I remember, you know, I used to be in Chicago. I live in Chicago. I was all right on my niggas in Chicago.

Derek Rose, at 21 years old, did the deal with Adidas, was the man in Chicago, league MVP, youngest MVP ever, at 21 years old or 22 years old. Niggas on the south side of Chicago, it was, I don't know if y'all remember the wranglers with the doors off, but they could take the doors off like 10, 20, 15 years or how long ago? It was 48 of them sheds riding around. Derek Rose is, niggas.

There's 48 fucking wranglers, niggas' legs taking out. You know, I ain't gonna say what said he used to be, where I'm not gonna, I ain't gonna do that to D. Rose, but if you Google it, you'll see him throwing up some signs. These niggas was going crazy. Because he had that much money, and Dee Rose not saying he was particularly in the situation, but this is the shit of 21 and 22 an all-star, not only an all-star league of the MVP is going to do. I'm about everybody, motherfucking wranglers with the doors off.

Give me 77 of them shits. I can afford to do it because you think this is how life is going to be all the time. I think about that when I talk about music. I sit there and say, I'm happy as far as music is concerned. I had the career that I had as far as music, I didn't come out to gate and sell four or five million records. I came out to gate went gold. Another album went gold, then I eventually went platinum,

and did some more platinum records. But if you come out the gate and you sell it in 18, 19, 20, 21 years old, and you sell four or five million records, you're going to think, oh, this is how life is about to be. Oh, I'm going to sell four million records every time. No. Chingi came out. He sold $3 million.

Next album was $200. 30, 40,000 or a year. Maybe it went gold, but you're like, damn, what the fuck happened? I thought that shit hurt when you're a superstar and then you just dropped. And I say, shing, he still isn't recognizable or anything like that. I'm just saying sales-wise, as far as that's concerned.

So you gotta realize environment does mean a lot, but sometimes it's the money you make. You can sit there and be like, yo, you could put a nigg in the South Pole. Like, man, get me a fucking stuff. Get me to put rims on the sled. And dime me in the shit out. That's just that, my nigga. That's just the way it is, my nigga.

Young niggers with money, they're going to be do young niggas with money shit. It's very rare. You know, it's very rare because it's a great point you made. I love this. I know I'm a little bit all over because you could come from a great environment and a great household, like you said, with John Morant, two-parent home, father and then, everything else.

but at the same time you like, nigga, we have this, we want to floss a little bit. Then you may have somebody who didn't have that much and it's a little different now because you make money in the NIL before you even get to the, get to the professional

pros. Yeah, the pros, whether it's basketball, football, baseball, whatever it is. And you like, yo, I'm getting money in college, I'm getting money. And listen, man, listen, I'm going to act up a little bit. I'm going to act up. So environment is important, but at the same time,

I think it's more about the money that people didn't have for them to make them act like the way they act. Lastly, Zion just got a bitch problem. He liked them a hoes, man. And listen, you come in from South Carolina. South Carolina are some beautiful women. You know what I'm saying? But them Louisiana women is vicious, man.

They eat you up. We only see the people on the internet. Imagine the ones we don't see on Bourbon Street, the fatty just walking, niggins like a Zion and the nigger. A lot of, listen, we see this many bitches having babies with and fucking and so on and so forth, because it's a new bitch that just popped up. I'm talking about it, it's a new female that just popped up recently.

It is at least seven, at least six dozen that we ain't seen. It's a bunch of them bitches I can keep a secret. Nobody got no nothing about what we're doing. I don't mind being a side bitch. Yesterday, we've raised here's on Toto. We talked about side-nick nation. Side bitch. It's a bunch of bitches that have played their position.

I think Zayn'an is just really hot, horny nigger, pores. You can't control itself. And whether that leaks in the basketball or not, I don't know. Because when you're in South Carolina, it wasn't this hurt this much. And I'm not saying high school is the NBA. But God, damn. Here.

Heard a lot, but you got a lot of bitches. You may got more bitches than games you play. I don't know. So I do want to get into that story because that was viral. We got to talk about it. But I do just have a quick comment because when you guys were talking about how like you'll stay out of certain environments because you know how that's going to be, I feel like I've like felt the opposite because I grew up in an environment that like I would be the only black

girl in my class. like there wasn't really a lot of black people around. Like I never had like a school that would even play like hip hop. Like I was not introduced to that growing up. So then for me, when you are introduced to that type of environment, you're literally like a kid in a candy store. Because I grew up in a small town, in Lesse Chapel, and then I found out about Tampa.

And I'm like, oh shoot, like the world is way bigger than this. And then especially when I got to Miami, that's a whole different ballpark. Like I'm meeting, like literally like you were saying Zion is meeting people Louisiana built very different than what he's used to. Like, I was meeting people I've never met before because that wasn't in the environment that I grew up in. And so one of those things, it's kind of like, it depends how you are going into that

environment because half the time people are really intrigued by you because they're not used to you, especially if they're used to being around a lot of other black people. It's like, okay, this one, she had a little different. But then half, the other half sees you as bait because it's like, okay, she don't know nothing or he don't know nothing because I know he ain't been around here so I kind of know what I can do with them. So it's kind of like two sides of it because it's like you're not going into a situation thinking that you're finessed. You're going to a situation thinking this and that. You're just like, wow, I'm around a whole bunch of people and I got more money. I can kind of do what I want

to do. But that's like when people become naive because they're going into situations not knowing what they're going into. So then this leads me to my next little example. So, Now we've got to talk about Zion because there was a viral clip of this only fan model attempting to expose Zion by posting a video of herself in his crib while he was setting up the fireplace, setting up a movie, he was going to relax, he was chilling. And then she posted an alleged Zell transfer from him of $2,000. So we've seen Zion's name, like we kind of expressed earlier, attached to a lot of different women and just being in different scenarios. and of course we spoke about environment. So Maurice, what advice would you give to somebody like Zahn in the situation?

Because we see the star power and the potential that he has, but he does keep getting caught up with off-court drama. Like, what advice would you give him? It's two things. The first thing is like, you kind of made, if people listen to you kind of made my point. They are the male version of you. You know, they love that.

Yeah, they just have all the access and all the money. And they have much more responsibility. You can do it innocently from a woman's standpoint, but like you made a point, right, that in regards to it, like I just don't understand the culture. I'll answer your question, but I don't understand the culture of like people, like we're in a culture like people wanting to expose people all the time.

I just don't understand that culture or I don't understand what a woman gets from saying this man gave it a money. Like I just grew up around women that if they was getting paid from a man, that was like they business. So like I don't get that or like going viral to say Zionist paying me to fuck me or whatever. I just don't get it, you know what I'm saying? But it's to that point when you grow up and you green and you just now getting or having sex or getting pussy in your late 20s from all types of women, you don't really understand who you dealing with. And that's why these guys keep on getting in trouble just because they don't know.

And that's why I blame their fathers or people who grew up in it who supposed to know. we supposed to God rather than participate in the fund. So I just don't get the culture of exposing people when this kind of could be like your lick if he liked that. From a woman's standpoint, and even saying that he gave you money, like, you just kind of stopped your gravy train. So like that doesn't make sense. So I don't know.

It's just, it's confusing to me. Before I answer the question, that Mo made some points that I want to get to. Mo, shit started when basketball wilds and all that, start loving hip hop and all that. start coming out, bitches said I could be host and get paid. That's when shit started because you're right. Growing up, you couldn't even tell a bitch suck your dick.

You'd be like, she'd be like, if you tell anybody, I'm telling you that right now. Now bitches tell you, you better suck his dick. You know, I've seen the transformation. I'm old enough to see where it wasn't cool to suck dick to now bitches better suck your dick or niggas is out. That nigger tell you, look, bitch, you don't suck my dick. I'm a bitch, a hundred bitches like my dick. It wasn't cool.

Like, you had to keep shit to see. Even sex, bitchens used to, there used to be a time with business. Like, this thing is running his mouth. Nails reversed. Now's reversed. They're bragging about born and nigger. You know, you see a video Superhead back in the days. I don't know if y'all know who Superhead is.

Yeah. Google Superhead if you're not familiar with her. She had a picture of Bobby Brown laid out on the couch. You remember that, Pete? Yeah. Niggas, like, damn, Bob's slipping, man. Bob's slipping now some big deal. You know, now when

bitches keep posting the niggas sleep, you know, the couch, putting the niggins out, like, y'all, y'all, y'all. Niggas is like, yo, come on. I remember James Hardin years ago, got caught up in a picture, niggas said they photoshopped it. That wasn't me.

He's sleep. Yo, shit changed, yo, because they realized now, yo, we could come up off these niggas. And I'm not meaning in the bad way, But we've seen a sex tape turn into a multi-billion dollar business, not just for one person, for their family. Family.

How do you think Ray J. feel? You know what I'm saying? What you think Ray J. feel like right now? Niggins fucking sex tape turning to billions, not for me, for my sister, from my little sister, you know what I'm, you know what I'm, give me 5% from Ray J. You know what I'm saying? I would feel away.

So we've seen that shit change. Bitch told me, you know, a bit and I told me, bitch sent me one time. See, that's the thing about me, Mo. Bit sent me a picture one time. She had put me out, you know what I'm saying? This is a while ago.

Send me a picture. You know what I'm saying? I'm sleeping my mouth open. She said, yeah, I put you sleeping. I don't care posting. That's what you were supposed to do. If I wasn't asleep, then I ain't coming back. You act like you're going to hurt my feelings with that shit.

You got the wrong one. That's what you was supposed to do. You ain't doing me. If you're blackmailing me, I don't give a fuck. You don't want to suck me to sleep. You're a Hoover vacuum. What you get into attitude with me for? I mean, I'd have to act like you showing me something that I give a fuck about.

Another bitch going to sit me and DM me, not DM me, text me. So one of these blogs, right? One of these blogs must have posted. Someone I DM the chick. Yeah, it was good, you look good, whatever. I don't remember what I said. blog, Hollywood, I don't know which one. I don't want to put down Hollywood a lot. One of these

blogs posted, my DM, like, look at Cam, jumping and show these DMs. So, a chick I know sent me my DM on the blog, talking about, look at you and these bitch DM. I said, that's, they ain't got the rest of them? I shoot.

I'm in a bunch of DMs. Shoot a shoot. Every shot you don't shoot is a miss. What's the problem? You can't hurt my feelings with it. Period. That's just me. I don't care, Mo. I don't care. And that's people with a family and work for an organization with the clippers, the Lakers, IBM, you know, Microsoft, and you can't get caught out there like that? I feel for y'all, niggins. I get it. You can't be out there at Super Hadshouse sleeping. I understand. I totally get it.

So I'm just saying, don't try with me because I don't care. What's the actual question? So we know what you would do. What would be your advice to Zion in this type of situation? See, that's the thing about it, though. If Zion was winning and ball it, nobody would care. Not saying they wouldn't mention it. They would mention it.

But if you wasn't hurt all the time or you was winning or get the Pelican to the playoffs or championship run, this would not be a bigger deal. as people making it a big deal. When it solves a lot of shit, man. When it solves a lot of shit, my nigga. And not saying that it's right. Sometimes a person can be dead wrong,

but if they help in the organization win, then they'll sweep shit under the rug, which is not right either. But what I'm saying is, I don't think that this would be a big deal if Zion was winning. You wouldn't care about them setting up the Christmas tree with the, with the,

joint. Shorty even when you talk about that Zelle, right? And you gotta love women. Women just stick together. Zion sent her $200. And you see her bank account was... $2,000, yeah. Pardon me, $2,000. And you see in her bank account was $600. So, niggas was like, she was at $600. That $2,000 saves her life. Here come the girls. How you know that's her only bank account? How do you know...

She was pot, my nigga. That was that last six. That was the last six. That 2000 helped, my niggas. You ain't going to sit tomorrow. How you know that just ain't account for the niggas? Okay. They'll always find a way, man. They'll always find a way.

I've seen this shit thinking of women stick together, right? I've seen a post-in-day. It's a real story in Florida, actually. This is a little bit off topic. This is just about women sticking together. It was a female where the boyfriend broke out with her. She has sex with his best friend and his uncle. And then came to his birthday party dressed as a pizza woman

to come fuck up the party. Fuck the party up got locked up and all that. Bidches in the comment talk about what's her bear? Free her. She ain't do nothing wrong. Yo, let's start a go from me. Let's help sis out. This is to stick together shit. Both his uncle, both his best friend, dressed up his piece of delivery girl, fuck the party up and what she did?

What he do? She ain't just doing that for night. They didn't report what he did. She made the news. Women stick together. Stuck together. Stick together, man. Some women stick together.

Yeah. But you do see it a lot. So I have a question for you because you were saying that you DM somebody and then they tried to like expose their DM. So like if that, if that happened to you again or even just back the Are you the type that would like circle back or would you just like, nah, like she's doing all that, you leave it alone?

As far as the girl who tried to expose me? No, I can't fuck with him. Okay. Because some people do. That's why I was curious because I'm just like, I don't understand how you see people. No, I can't fuck with her. I start fucking with a lot.

A lot of bitches, a lot of bitches, because I'm a very private person, believe it or not. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm talking about, you know, I have my fun, this, that, or I'm not saying that. I'm not a, you know, a fellow that has his fun. But I don't like a bunch of poster. You know what I'm saying?

I don't like a bunch. Unless we talk about, oh, we're out having fun. I don't like a bunch of posting unless I say it's okay to post. You know, I'm not into that. And what happens is sometimes I tell a female, you know, don't be posting when you're over here. Or don't be posting this down third. You know, not for no other reason, but I just don't want to be posted.

I don't know if your locations. I don't know. I don't want you posted. and then I go on their gram and they post it. And I'm like, yo, why are you posting? No, that's my toes. Bish, nobody else got this rug? Nigger, this rug flooring from Peru.

Nigger, Jeannie was on this shit. The fuck is you talking about, nigga. Stop trying to be slick because you know this rug is a one-on-one. You know, this floor rug or you try to do just a little bits where you see a Grammy Award in the back of the way. around a nominee, well, I don't have actual Grammy, but they give you a little certificates where you get just enough to know you are in my spot.

Stop playing games, alright. Beck, now you're in the hotel. Why can't go to the house? You can't come back. You're not invited. You're not invited. No, I told you don't post. I didn't tell you, I didn't know this post in my mother.

And like, it's just my house. This is my house. No, no. I don't double back once you violate. Once you violate, cool. But that's the thing about it. When you think that you're exposing me, it's a win-to-win, because I don't care. Now, you're out.

Thanks for doing it early to get yourself kicked out the whip. Let me know. Yeah, a lot of people would be too geeks. People need to bring NDAs back. There's a whole lot of things that are problems. But hopefully, especially these players, figure it out. But that is all the time that we have for today. Maurice, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show.

Good seeing you more. I like the suit, man. Presidential, looking good, man. Yeah, I'm back. Yeah. Okay. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is.