IT IS WHAT IT IS - CAM'RON GOES OFF ON PAUL GEORGE & SAYS THAT BASKETBALL IS NOT HIS FIRST LOVE ANYMORE!

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

Ma$e, Cam'ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are here with another one!! On this episode, the Rockets have put together a dope stretch by winning 9/11 games, how far can they go in the playoffs as Houston currently holds onto the 2nd seed in the West. Killa says that Kawhi might be back and that the Clippers are a sleeping giant in the West if he's healthy, Mase thinks it might be Houston. Then, KD gets hurt in the game vs. the Rockets, how would you summarize Durant's season with the Suns this year? Next, Podcast P says that podcasting is therapeutic and Killa was NOT having that. Mase says that he might not love basketball like he once did and Coach Prime gets a MONSTER payday! Listen to the show on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/4Brb7BgCw4f4jwgS5v3sXQ?si=811988ecff7b416a Listen to the show on Apple Podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/it-is-what-it-is/id1719695401 Sign up and deposit for Underdog HERE with promo code [MASE, CAM, STAT, IIWII] to get up to $1,000 in bonus credits and a free pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-itiswhatitis Get you some IT IS WHAT IT IS MERCH! https://www.itiswhatitismerch.com Shoutout to our Sponsor Pink Horse Power! https://buypinkhorsepower.com/ ALL INQUIRIES, PLEASE CONTACT: [e-mail] Keep up with us on social media! https://www.instagram.com/itiswhatitis_talk/ Snap: https://www.snapchat.com/add/iiwii_talk2023 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ItIsWhatItIsTalk TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@maseandcam Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Use code MACECAM or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus credits with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Treasurer Wilson, AKA Stat Baby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam. Killer was good, man. Murder, what up, man? How you doing? Good, man. Good? Yeah. Good, man? How you doing? Good, man.

Good? Yeah. Good, man. Great time to be alive. Absolutely. Little purple one with purple haze in it. Who knows? Purple city.

Purple city? You don't catch the indictment for the purple city. Purple city catch that indictment, man. Shout out to them niggas in Taino Towers, man. Yeah, man. Okay, so we are gonna start water good, huh? Yeah, man. It's early, man.

It's early morning, man. Okay, despite losing to the Lakers, the Rockets have won nine out of the 11 of their last games, their last loss being the Lakers, of course, and the Nuggets. They are the second seed in the West. Mace, why do you think the Rockets have been so successful? I definitely, I definitely think the reason why the Rockets are so successful

is that they're playing for each other. This is like old school basketball, even though they got players that are very talented when you got players that Really like the other players on the team. You could tell this team probably hangs out together They came up together and it will be a travesty for them not to stay together But you could just see everything about a good team is present here. You got you got good communication You got people respecting one another. You got, they're playing defense with each other. So it's like, if you get past one person,

it's not a clear bucket. It's like, like I just said from the beginning, they're just playing for each other. So, and Uduka is doing an amazing job with this team. And a couple of weeks ago, I wasn't as sold on the Rockets. I'm starting, I might come in with a red Cowboys hat tomorrow, I don't know.

Pause. Pause. Yeah, that was crazy. Just randomly come in with a red Cowboys hat. Without explanation, it's crazy. Without explanation, it's crazy. And do I see this continuing for the Rockets? Absolutely. Like I said, a couple of weeks ago, I wasn't sold on them.

Today, I think I'm starting to change. You're more sold on the Houston Rockets than Oklahoma City? That's a great question, Cam. That's 50-50 for me, I'ma be honest, because as great as SGA is, I don't know if he does it, falls down the clutch. You know what I'm saying? Like when it comes to playoff basketball,

not regular season, regular season, he's an MVP, first team, all of that. But you know, in a seven game series, the ball is in my hand. I'm controlling what happened. I'm not blaming nobody for what happens. I think when it comes down to a team that got eight players playing,

that's willing to dive on the floor for the ball, that could end up beating a great player by itself if the other people don't show up. That's a hot take. So on the Rockets, is there any specific player that you see taking over and doing that, or you just feel like- No, I think it's by committee,

and that's what makes it more scary. You know, growing up, you got players that get a lot of rebounds. You got another guy who can hit a pull up from pause anywhere. You got this other guy, he can handle the ball. But when you got all these people playing together and they're playing their best basketball,

they all are like interchangeable. That's what makes them so dangerous. Normally you find a team, this guy can only dribble, this guy can only shoot. Houston Rock and Got people that could do some of everything and they wanna win and it don't matter where they, where they find themselves to win and I think that's a great thing.

And not taking nothing away from SGA. I'm just saying I haven't I'm yet to see him do it and no criticism I have to see him do it when it counts. He's a he's a first team you know for season MVP all of those things great great player great outstanding talent great person but I have to see it done in the playoffs. I'm looking forward to him doing it in the playoffs. That's crazy that you think that the roster for Houston is better than a roster for OKC,

because you only mentioned O'Shea Gilder, just like Alexander, you don't mention Tchek, you don't mention Caruso, you don't mention Jaylin Williams, you don't mention Tchek. They play nine players, and I think that they are the deepest seen pours, at least in the West, outside of Boston having a great bench as well. But they're playing nine players,

and all nine players for OKC are really good. It isn't just the Shea Gilder's Alexander show, because I think that Shea gets a lot of credit because of what he's doing. He's really unstoppable mid-range game. We see a flash of Kawhi Leonard. That we haven't seen, well Kawhi I don't wanna, Kawhi look like he trying to come to back

and get his name back, I ain't gonna lie. Kawhi, for those who haven't been watching the Clippers, Kawhi is sneaking back in the building. The sheep and wolf cloven. I'm telling you, whatever that phrase is, he doing wolf and sheep cloven. Whatever that shit is, that's what Kawhi Leonard is actually doing right now,

because this nigga's like, Kawhi ain't been playing. Kawhi is on the hush, and we already see what James Harton been doing. Listen, let's be very careful not paying attention to the Clippers, but as far as OKC is concerned, the question I asked Mase, they're playing nine players and they have a deep team, even with Caruso

coming off the bench, they are really, really good. That's why I asked, but I'm not disagreeing with what you said as far as Houston as well. They're playing collectively good. They obviously are fighting with Denver for second place in the Western Conference for seeding when the playoffs happen. But Mesa's absolutely right.

They have a deep team. Not only that, they have a lot of people on the team with points to prove. It isn't just the coaches. You got Dillon Brooks there. Yeah, Memphis wanted to get rid of me. Now look, I bet you Memphis misses Dillon Brooks now. He comes with a lot of antics and everything else,

but they're sitting there saying he's one of them dogs. I wouldn't compare him to Draymond Green, but he's Houston's version of Draymond Green. But Houston looks really good, but the reason I asked him that question was when he says he didn't trust OKC a few shows ago, and when it came to the playoffs, and at least OKC with this roster has playoff experience

as opposed to Houston having no playoff experience with this particular roster. Are they looking good this year compared to, because last year they just missed the playoff by two, three games. Something really close, they were fighting with Golden State to get in the play-in. Pardon me, not just the play-offs, the play-in.

But it looked like they came back this year with a vengeance. And my only problem with Houston, and we'll see what happens, is this team presently constructed doesn't have any play-off experience as compared to OKC, who has play-off experience. So we'll see what happens with them in the playoffs, but who does have playoff experience? Dillon Brooks.

Vavly is a champion. And not only that, we have a coach that's Eastern Conference finals a couple times, not just that, possibly the finals if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, he got fired right before. Right, exactly. So we have people on that team with playoff experience, but not presently constructed.

And to me right now, and the playoffs count, but it's OKC and it's the West. That's what I look at the West. It's OKC and the rest of y'all motherfuckers. And we'll see what happens when the playoffs come, because that's my real question. What is OKC gonna do in a seven game series? That's the real question.

But I was actually amazed at that because what is Houston gonna do in the seven game series? They look like they ready. They look like they ready, but they have to have the experience. So the game the other day, they look really, really good. But my biggest takeaway from Houston and Phoenix was KD getting hurt. And right now, the Phoenix Suns are in the 11th seed,

which means they won't make the play in the 11th seed. So is this the last time that we're seeing KD in a Phoenix Suns uniform? That's the question that I took away from that game. Because if they don't make the play in, as much conversation has been going on around Houston, pardon me, around Phoenix, oh, they was talkin' about trading KD before the deadline.

He didn't wanna get traded. They're not winning. Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, those three people are not gettin' the job done as much as we like them. They're not gettin' the job done. I actually we like them. They're not getting the job done. Actually see Shannon Sharp, he had a great take and he didn't express it clearly enough,

but his take was great. It's like you got the best, he used the term oxtail, but let's say you got the best oxtail, then you got the best red wine, then you got the best pancakes. But I don't want all three of them shits together. I don't wanna drink red wine, pancakes, and the ox tail all together.

I thought that was a brilliant way he kinda put it together. And that's kinda true when you're thinking about Bradley Beale, you're thinking about Kevin Durant, you're thinking about Devin Booker. They look disinterested, it looks like they don't wanna be there. And I watched this a couple times,

cause I'm like, let me see what the fuck is going on with the Phoenix Suns. And they look really, really disinterested, like, please let this season be over with. I have no idea what's going to happen. I hope KD recovers quick. They said he should be out for a week or so, but a week or so may be too late to get them in the playing.

And if they are in the playing, I don't think that they're very interested in trying to get past in the play-in. And if they are in the play-in, I don't think that they're very interested in trying to get past the play-in, just from what I'm looking at. Now, you know, it'd be a crazy story if they make the play-in, win in the play-in, get in the seventh seed, possibly. I ain't gonna put them in that eighth seed,

because if you get the eighth seed, I don't think you want to play OKC. But you sit there and play Houston again, maybe. We'll see what happens in the seven game series. I'm not saying they'll win, but that would be almost a Cinderella story for Phoenix. Imagine them niggas get to 10th seed, ended up getting in the playoffs,

and then after that, win a first round. That's a victorious season for what we've seen. Is that far fetched when I just said? Absolutely, but you never know. Yeah, and going back to what I was saying previously, Killer, I was thinking when it comes to OKC, the reason why I was saying the Houston Rock is over OKC is because I don't know if everything breaks down

for OKC that they'll still play for each other. You know how you have those teams where, look at like the Phoenix Suns, like everybody got the talent, but when things go awry, are they gonna pull together and get it done? Or is it gonna be like my show, your show? And I see more so if things unravel,

that the Houston Rockets will be able to pull it together. Like you said, Van Fleet, he got the map. Person has won before, he know what we need to do. Week one, he know what needs to happen in the second series. He know how you need to rest, what you need to do to be ready for the finals and how you need to turn it on, pause,

when you get to the finals. So having a map is just like being in class and you got the cheat sheet. If you got the cheat sheet, you're definitely going to pass the class because you got the answers. I don't think OKC knows the answers just yet. And I want you all to prove me wrong, you know? And I don't want to say, yeah, I don't have the answer, but I don't think that. It's not giving me, they got the answers. And when you talk about KD, with KD being out, this would be like a horrible post-seasons

to have two post-seasons without KD back to back. You know, I think it was last year or the year before we was watching all of the new people in the playoffs and we're like, where's all of the guys that we used to watch it? I don't think, um, two times being out of the playoffs is, is, is just crazy for him as a player of that kind of caliber to say that you had Bradley bill on this team. You had, you had Devin Booker and you got KD.

Yeah. No matter who else was on that team, you're supposed to have at least 100 points. At least 100 points. So I don't get that. And when you said Kendrick Perkins, what, not Kendrick Perkins, who was that that said that dinner menu? Shannon Sharp.

Shannon Sharp, was that again? Wine? He was just using examples. He didn't say all that. He said, Axel Sonnos. He was basically saying the best? He was just using examples. He didn't say all that. He said, Oxdale, something else. He was basically saying, the best foods that don't go together. Oh yeah.

Basically. Yeah, that was great. Cause I was listening like, I would never eat those things. Pause me. Not together. But I definitely eat together. You need to separate.

That's basically what he was trying to say. If you out to dinner and you want right wine, you have red wine, don't bring me pancakes. We're ox tail, basically what he was trying to say. Yeah. You right. Yeah, you right. All of those are probably great things.

Right. Yeah. But real quick, also one thing I wanna say is yesterday, I said, when I was talking, cause you know our fans are fucking, they'll be on our back. I said how the Grizzlies went to the Western Conference Finals when they lost to Golden State.

My apologies, it was the semi-Western Conference Finals. The reason I had a brain freeze is because Golden State went on to win, so I was thinking that was going on to them. So thank you to our fans for correcting me. Secondly, Phoenix didn't miss the playoffs last year, like Mase just said, they went and got swept by Minnesota. So this will be their first year looking at it. And as far as their fleet having the cheat sheet,

the cheat sheet was Kawhi Leonard, because he was up there with motherfucking Demar, the Rosen and all them niggas and could not get there. Kawhi Leonard came one year, got Canada a championship. He said, thank you, thank you Kawhi, and thank you Canada, but I gotta go back to America. So as much as I like Fred Van Fleet, and don't get it fucked up neither,

you gotta be there like Mase just said. You know this guy, too. You gotta see it. Yeah, you gotta see it, you gotta know, but what I will say is this, that I don't think that if OKC doesn't get it done, what I'm looking at OKC is like the Boston Celtics three, four years ago.

They're the second youngest team in the NBA. Out of all their players, they average 23 years old. 22 and a half, 23 years old. So even if they don't get it done this year, which I think they should at least go to minimum Western Conference finals, my personal opinion. They have plenty of time, I'm not gonna throw them under the bus, I'm not gonna break the team up,

I'm not gonna say this person should go, because listen, we all said that, about that, as far as, not just this show, I'm talking about analysts, let's think about three, four years ago, when everybody was saying, yo, it can't be Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown on the same team. One of them gotta go. They can't do it.

Mind you, these players was 23 at the time. 22, 23, 24 years old. Then you give them some time to develop. You know, we all want success overnight. And when it doesn't happen overnight, we're quick to criticize. Knowing these niggas may not even be fully developed, grown men, let alone be in their prime.

So, now how they're looking like, oh shit, it could be Jalen Brand and Jason Tatum. Not only that, they wanna grab Drew Holiday. Not only that, they picked up poor Zinkas. Not only that, Derek White came into the zone. Listen, sometimes things take time. So, as good as OKC looks, they're still young, but at the same time, I'm not giving you no pass nigga.

I'm not giving you no pass, make it happen. You had playoff experience the last two years, you got the number one point guard, first team all NBA two years, get it done, get it done. That's just that. Yeah, and when I was speaking of Van Fleet, I was thinking, he gotta take a page out of Shaq's book. When Shaq went to Miami and he was talking to D-Way

and telling them about what he did with Kobe, like telling him like, yo, you gotta do this for us to win. Like putting a battery in his back, that's what I was more so speaking of. Like Van Fleet, you gotta amp one of them young niggas up. Pause that's on the wing and tell them, you gonna have, if we gonna win, you gonna have to become a new nigga.

Like you gotta put the battery in this guy. Yeah. You Kawhi now, nigga. Who cares what Kawhi did, you Kawhi now. And you know, people start hearing that from people they looked up to or people they saw win it, it start giving them unresilled confidence. That's what I saw happen with Wade.

Once Shaq pulled him to the side and told him, you Kobe now? I remember they played at the Staples Center and he blocked Kobe shot. It was like, Kobe looked at him like, this little nigga think he me? And he was like, yeah, Shaq was letting him know, I'm grooming him to take your spot. And even though I don't think he did it, but I'm just saying shout out to Wade, shout out to the whole Bryant family and Shaq,

but he knew what to tell them to get them to play on that level. And that's what it's gonna take for the Houston Rockets to win it all. That would be crazy if the Rockets played the Celtics. And you don't go with, would rather nothing better than to beat the Celtics in a chip. But it's also a great storyline

because I think we'd all be tuned in for sure. So like, I would love to see that, but you never know. Like new hotness comes in things are happening They had a lot of doubts, but then we're seeing that they are capable So if they can definitely get it done and they and they and you doke a set a year ago Or so he said he didn't want this is why he didn't entertain on James Harton coming over there. Let's see if this summer he might entertain Katie coming over there Okay, so I actually want to have a further discussion about the Suns and specifically Katie let's see if this summer he might entertain KD coming over there. OK, so I actually want to have a further discussion about the Suns and specifically Katie. So as Cam mentioned earlier, Katie is expected to miss at least one week.

And we're having this conversation right now is if the Suns can even make the plan. Are you surprised that we're even having this conversation at this point in the season or were there some signs, Mase, that you feel like you might have seen that showed that it was going in this direction? I think we knew from the first, I think I believe, me and Killer, I know we knew from probably like the first or second week maybe. I think, I mean first or second month, I think Killer gave them a little bit more time

because like he just stated, success takes time. But I don't have that kind of time. If you're gonna be a person that requires a lot, you don't get to have all that time. People need to know that. If you're gonna be a person that demand a lot, you can't ask for a lot of time. That doesn't go with the demand

because that hurts the business. So if you see him out there playing this way, acts for a lot of time. That doesn't go with the demand because that hurts the business. So if you see him out there playing this way, then you got Bradley Bill playing that way and you know you're spending all this money as a GM, I would be furious. I don't know who's at the helm of everything, but I am surprised that they allowed it to be this way. I think their basketball pride should make them rise up and want it to do more. But that's what I mean about when you don't have it

for each other, when things unravel, you don't pull it together. When you have that something for a person, you find a way to make that happen. And that's what they're looking at. and you find a way to make that happen. And that's what they're looking at. Yeah, listen man, am I surprised? Kinda.

You know what I'm saying? I'm kinda surprised. You gotta think about this. You got two Olympians on the team, two gold medalists. Current gold medalists, like this last summer gold medalists when we talking about Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. Not only gold medalists, KD showed the fuck out in the Olympics.

So, you know, when people sit there like, skip bailers to me, like, KD is just isn't him, KD isn't that, KD isn't that. To me, KD is bustin' ass. What they're talking about is that, actually they hope KD doesn't miss enough games this season to where he's not eligible to make all NBA. Because if he's eligible to make all NBA,

he's gonna make first, second, and third team for how good he's been playing this season. KD's been playing exceptional. It's that the Houston Suns collectively have not been playing good at all. And like I said... The Phoenix Suns, Phoenix Suns. I'm sorry, pardon me, Mace. Thank you very much. The Phoenix Suns collectively have not been playing good at all. Like I said. And then the Phoenix Suns.

Phoenix Suns. I'm sorry, pardon me Mace, thank you very much. The Phoenix Suns, they're not playing good at all. And when I watched them, it's like Mace just said, there's no camaraderie. You don't hang, you can tell they don't hang out. You can tell they can see each other, go home, and that's the end of it.

And I'll see you next game or practice or on the flight to the next game, whatever it is. You can tell they don't hang out because there's no communication. Secondly, I don't think they're cool enough to have a absolute, pardon me, what's the word I'm looking, well, whatever word I'm looking for, they don't have a leader.

And I don't mean none of them have leadership skills. I just think that they probably all respect each other too much to where they don't feel they could talk to a nigga a certain way. Like, for instance, when me and Mase played, or anybody I played with, nine out of 10 times, I hung out with two, three niggas on the team. Maybe I hang out with all eight, nine niggas until 11.

But yo, you ain't doing this, nigga. Come on, you playing weak, B. You gotta be able to talk to niggas like that if that's your man or that's your teammate. Hey, yo, come on, my nigga. Yo, fuck is we doing? Yo, yo, my nigga, you like niggas? You letting them go crazy.

Yeah, exactly, my nigga. Yo, you playing weak.iggas, you like niggas? You let them go crazy. Yeah, exactly, my nigga, you playing weak. I remember I was playing a game against Martin Luther King High School in school. Mason's a great head of me, he didn't plead with us already out, but he's at a game. And I went to a time out, he's like, yo, you playing mad weak, and I'm like,

where in the hell am I, right? He's like, you playing weak. And I started bullying niggas, I was strong. I started pushing niggas all the time, flying all in the sky to it. I was like, Word, I'm playing Mad Week, and I went crazy, because a nigga told me, I remember a nigga actually telling me that,

I'm like, Word, I ain't bet I'm bugging. Bust Joaquin and them niggas all the time, they started washing them niggas up, Noah, Elvis, all them niggas. I put them niggas under the bus after that. Yeah, we're having Elvis. Elvis, yeah. Shout out to Elvis. Shout out to Elvis, Joaquin, all them niggas, man.

Shout out to them niggas, but sometime you need to hear that. Yeah. And if you don't got a nigga to tell you that, then you just gonna play lackluster, or you gonna think that you doing enough to say, and I'm doing enough, but if you ain't got a nigga to tell you that, then you just gonna play lackluster or you gonna think that you doing enough to say and I'm doing enough. But if you ain't got one of them niggas

to be in your ear like, that ain't it bro, you looking crazy, you might put in your mouth and oh what I am? And turn it up a level or two. And I don't think they have that communication on that team. Okay, so now Paul George, so he calls podcasting therapeutic, he said, when I started my podcast, I knew there was gonna be some backlash.

I knew there was gonna be people that had things to say about it, he's an athlete, he should be in the gym 24 hours out of the day, but to be honest, it's therapeutic, it's a chance for me to talk about things that go on in sports that I probably would hold onto. So just hearing that, especially given the Sixers record, he's not playing, what do you think of his reasoning, Mase?

Shout out to Paul George. I wish you well, man. I hope you get better. Man. I was supposed to be all positive today, you know? But this is messing me up right now. What did he say again? Yeah, basically he said that it's therapeutic.

He gets to talk about things that he usually wouldn't get to talk about. Excuses. Shout out to the goat, man. Kill it. Kill it with you. That's terrible. Shout out to the GOAT.

Yeah. You know what's crazy is that we sit up here and joke about this shit. Yeah, I think the GOAT comment jinxed him. I think the young niggas calling him the GOAT jinxed him. I don't even think it's about his skillset. I think it's about his mindset. Because I talked about this on yesterday's show.

When he said he was gonna stop podcasting and focus on basketball, this first game after he said that, he had some crazy numbers. I don't know if it was a triple double, but he had some really good numbers. I'm like, okay, here we go. But see, I heard this earlier,

and I'm gonna bring this up really quick and in reference. So like I said, I've been catching up on a lot of different things. And Brock Purdy made a statement, and I know we're jumping to football real quick. Brock Purdy made a statement, we don't have that on our topics today, do we? All right, cool, I just didn't wanna jump the gun.

Brock Purdy made a statement on a podcast, on these fucking podcasts, these players and these fucking podcasts. But he made a statement on a podcast saying that, you know, talking about how last season the San Francisco 49ers didn't play good, and it's crazy, and basically, when you're sitting there and you playing into February

or end of January with the playoffs, you basically have five, six weeks off before you have to repaint the spring camp or whatever camp it is. And then you get off for another week and then you gotta do summer shit this down to third. And then after that, get ready for the regular season. He's like, yo man, it gets tiring, bro.

You know, we're tired, man. This play is just starting to turn. I'm like, are you wanting to just give you 50 million a year? That's what you say in the middle of contract negotiation, you dumb motherfucker? You ain't supposed to say that. Because if you tired,

you don't think Patrick Mahomes is exhausted, nigga? Patrick Mahomes play longer than you, nigga, every year. Every year. Do you hear that coming out of Kelsey Mouth? Or Patrick Mahomes Mouth? Or Tyree Hill Mouth? Paws? Out of all these players who play way longer than you play every year, Brock Purdy.

Every, not just one year. Year after year after year after year, they play longer than you play every year, Brock Purdy. Every, not just one year, year after year after year after year, they play longer than you. And you know what, they probably show up to training camp before you show up to training camp, because they want to play longer than you again next season. Why would you say this and you in the middle of a contract negotiation?

We just seen a nigga get benched in the middle of the Stephen Richardson for saying he was tired. They threw flack on him because Richardson for saying he was tired. They threw flack on him because the nigga said he was tired. What the fuck do y'all niggas be saying? Do y'all niggas know how to shut the fuck up? Do you know how to shut the fuck up? Back to Paul George, the reason I brought this up, why would you make this statement

after you got paid all this money from the NBA, pardon me, from the Philadelphia 76ers. You didn't do good this year. You played when you wanted to play. Y'all didn't make the playoffs, which means y'all didn't make the playoffs in 2015-16 season. And then you sit there talking about,

yo, not say, you know what, I'm gonna get ready this summer, get my body together, get in shape, so next year I can make the Philadelphia fans proud and get the sixes back to where they wanna be. No, no, no, no. Podcasting is therapeutic. That's what you go to after the season just happened. The reason he's doing this everybody because he's lining y'all up to let you know Podcast P is coming back. This the advertisement. He's like you know this now, it's therapeutic. I get to talk about things I can't talk about

anywhere else with nobody else. He not telling Philadelphia we gonna be all right. I'm telling you it's therapeutic and be on the lookout because we coming back April 15th with the podcast B show. This was nothing but a commercial to let you know podcast B is coming back. Whether the Philadelphia 76ers are in the playoffs,

or not in the playoffs, fuck my money I'm getting next year because next year I'm making 53 million, regardless with the 76ers. After that I'm probably gonna make 57 million. I'm locked in, so I'm telling you it was therapeutic to me because I already gaffled these niggas for 200. Y'all niggas wild, bro. Y'all niggas, y'all athletes, it's okay to shut up.

It's okay to be quiet because what's gonna happen, and you can ask a plethora of players. But most recently, ask motherfucking Ben Simmons how the hell Philadelphia gonna turn their back on you. Forget Ben Simmons, ask Joel Embiid, how, you ain't gonna ask, cause you probably was there, how they booed him this season for not performing up the park.

They will boo you, they will run you out the tower, you wanna run it hard, the Philadelphia Fierce, do not play. Pick and choose what you say out loud, bro. All you niggas, man. So this is what you meant when you said why he couldn't be GOAT. It's not first.

Well, it's a couple things, Murda. I never thought he was the GOAT anyway because you didn't win. It was a time, it was a time when he was in Indiana with the Pacers, he was this close behind LeBron. Paul was with them. When LeBron hit that shot out the backboard. Right, I'm talking about a couple years,

it was a couple years where they was like, it's Paul George's nigga, Mike Kessler, LeBron. He never did it, but he was right there. And it just never panned out. Then, so that's to me, you never been to a championship. And sometimes, we sit there and tell players, not tell players, analyze old players and be like, how you was good, you know what I mean, to the championship.

Well, we could sit there and look at a couple people. Let's just throw a couple names out there, right? Who never won a championship. Carl Malone never won a championship. Been to a championship, and has a couple people. Let's just throw a couple names out there, right? Who never won a championship. Carl Malone never won a championship. Benton Championship and has a league MVP. Let's talk about Charles Barkley, never won a championship. Benton Championship has a league MVP. Let's talk about Reggie Miller.

Never won a championship, Benton Championship. Let's talk about Patrick Ewan. Never won a championship, Benton Championship. So these are great players, but the least they got there. He's never been there. So that's that. Then the second thing is this, is murder slogan. Let's keep the first thing first.

And obviously, I don't give a fuck, when nobody say basketball is not the first thing no more. It's not the first thing. And that's just that. We don't have to live with that as basketball analysts, fans, or anything else. Basketball for Paul George, and it's fine. It's fine.

I'm glad, you know what? I'd rather you tell us so we know. Basketball is not the first priority for Paul George. And I'm not talking about family, because they're gonna be like, yeah, basketball like the first thing. I got a family, I got a wife. We're not talking about that. We're talking about career-wise.

Career-wise, this is not the first thing for you. Career-wise, podcasting is the first thing for you. Yeah, like you play, like you're in high school or you're in school, you get good grades, then you can go play sports, you know? Do your homework first, you know? And this is what it's like with basketball. You do the basketball right,

the podcast will be even more jumping because now you're a champion on a podcast. So you even, you know, bless your podcast by performing greater as an athlete. Yeah, and it's kind of hard to have, I mean, maybe it's just me, I have a little bit of sympathy because I'm just like, dang, and it's kind of hard to have, I mean, maybe it's just me, I have a little bit of sympathy

because I'm just like, dang, if it's like a mental health thing and that is therapeutic to you, like maybe you know, fine. It's okay, like again, it's okay to go to therapy. It's okay to talk to somebody if you just want to talk about some things. But on the other end, it's like you initially said,

you stopped your podcast because you wanted to focus on winning a championship. So by saying that, you're saying that it was a distraction. So it's like, which one is it? Is it a distraction or is it really therapeutic for you? Yeah, and if he needs therapy, I definitely suggest that he get one. Get some therapy, pause for real.

But the podcast, that probably shouldn't be the great outlet of therapy because that made you before people broken and constantly speaking or tired and constantly speaking. And that's never a good thing because there's no limit to the things you could say. Yeah, and also real quick,

you know, there's so many tools, pause out here, as far as technology is concerned, as far as social media is concerned, as far as internet is concerned, to get your message out there, so on and so forth. Basketball was my therapy when I was growing up. If you're a basketball player, that's supposed to be therapy, nigga. Get out there and play.

That take your mind away from all the other shit going on. That was the therapy where I, I didn't have the tools we have today. But basketball players therapy is basketball. I see mad players be like, yeah, this my therapy. Now it ain't the therapy no more because you can go talk to niggas. I ain't jacking that shit Mason and Stad just said.

They giving you out. I just gotta look at both sides. I know Stad, I know. I gotta look at both sides. Okay, so my last question, because that's a great point, and honestly, that is like the argument. It's like, why are you looking at any other outlet

if you are a basketball player? But just food for thought, and I'm curious on what you guys think, if you feel like you are not where you once were, you know, you feel like, you know, you typically play at a high level, you are not there anymore, I feel like isn't that kind of a depressing thing?

Like as a reminder, like damn, I can't even play how I usually do. It could be one of those things that's like, damn. I am not. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Bjo, you was saying something? Now yeah, you see what he said? He get to talk about things he don't get to talk about.

That show you basketball is not the top priority. That comment right there, show you basketball is not his number one priority. It's excuse. The answer to that question is, stop stealing money money that nigga. You robbing niggas and they say, and you ain't good like that no more.

Stealing money nigga, give it back. Just robbing Philadelphia 76ers for hundreds of billion dollars and you talking about I ain't like that no more. You robbing niggas. He said that? No, no, I'm, man. He said that? No, no, I'm saying that. She's saying that.

I'm just saying in general, what if this is like, damn, like I can't play how I usually do. That shit's us. Get a Brad back. Yeah. Get a Brad back. That would be the... Yeah, exactly.

Come to the Tuesday league, nigga. We only got a dollar for you. Give some of that shit to the referees. Fuck, you talking about I ain't like that no more, man? Get in the gym and get back like that. What you talking about, man? If that's the case. And I'm just running out of hypotheticals because you just don't know.

I'm just like, well, what if it's this? What if it's that? Like, no, no. If you feel like he's not like that no more, go get in a pickup game with people that you could dominate, pause, and get your confidence back high and come back out there playing. Because you're getting a lot of money

and when you're getting that kind of money, that's what I was speaking to earlier. It's hard to hear excuses from somebody that you're giving 150 million or. 200 something. Yeah, 200 million and somebody telling you, I'm just not there anymore. Well, how can we get some of the bread back

will be my conversation. You take all the time you need, but remember I said, if we're talking about a large amount of money, you don't get the time that you normally get because it's too much money being invested. This is a business and a large portion of this cap salary has been devoted for you and set aside for you.

So it's very ethical to make sure that you're on that floor at your best because this is somebody who's taking care of their family and a lot of people lose their jobs behind things like this. You better believe somebody who thought about Bradley bill being in in Phoenix in this debacle It's gonna cost somebody we don't know exactly who but somebody's gonna pay for this and if Paul George doesn't perform I got you know major love and respect for Paul George But if he doesn't turn this around somebody in Philadelphia might be in trouble because this is this is something they did to win You don't spend two hundred million dollars of mine and we don't win might be in trouble because this is something they did to win. You don't spend $200 million of mine and we don't win.

Right, I wouldn't even say the person's name but you give somebody money and they don't perform, you're like, I'll be like, your killer was good. You know, what's up with homeboy? But you know, love is love. Caught in the Mace, caught in the Mace a couple shows ago, when you get the largest sum of money,

you're obligated to give it back, especially if you're not performing, man. Give the money back if you're not gonna do what you're supposed to do, man. Mace said people with money are obligated. Give it to somebody. Yeah, man. May say people with money are obligated. Give it to somebody. Yeah, yeah. Good points, can't argue that.

I stand on that. Since you, I mean, therapeutic, you wanna help people. You're going through something. I didn't do well this year. Hey, if there's somebody watching this, need tuition, start, you know, start helping people. That's a positive way to look at it for sure. But those are just hypotheticals.

Paul George did not specifically say what I said. I'm just saying, I put it out there. So in the comments, let us know what you guys think about him calling podcasting therapeutic. So today the Sixers will play the Knicks. Obviously they don't have Paul George or a lot of players. Cat is at 23 and a half points. Do you have them higher or lower Mace?

Hi, I think we talked about this already. If no Joel and Beat is there, I don't think they have anybody worth not going to the rack and getting a basket. So definitely I got them higher than that. Okay. Absolutely high. Okay. Absolutely higher. Okay, OG is at 31 and a half points,

rebounds and assists. Do you have him higher or lower? I'm gonna go higher, OG. Think he had 25 points or more the last four games straight. He's on a little hot streak. If you throw in the points and assists, what is it, points, rebounds, and assists?

Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna go higher. Okay, make it. Yeah, I'm going higher. It seem like he got the coolest name in basketball right now, OG. Okay, and Quentin Grimes, is that four and a half assist? Do you want him higher or lower, Mase?

That's a hard one. Pause. Pause, yeah, higher. I'm gonna go lower. Okay, make sure y'all download the Underdog app and you can make your picks too. Does the NBA have a tanking problem? We will discuss after the break. Welcome back. So of course, a lot of teams want the potential number one draft pick in

Cooper flag. At this point in the season, we've seen a lot of teams underperforming starters are being benched, a lot of injuries, a lot of things are just going on that isn't as entertaining to watch. And some people may feel like there's a race to the bottom. So Mase, do you feel like the NBA has a tanking problem? No, I think the NBA doesn't have a tanking problem. I think they have, what's the word I'm looking for when you're just a content problem. They have a lot of people that just made a bunch of money and they're just not

motivated. They the NBA seem very unmotivated. You got teams like, you know, Detroit looking like they're trying to bring back that fire back to the NBA. Whether you're talking about OKC, you're talking about the Rockets, you got about like nine teams that are still playing basketball. But for the most part, it seemed like the rest of those teams, you got a lot of people that just have made a lot of money and they're just content.

They're not they're not trying to be anything better than what they've already accomplished or do anything. And you could just see it. And this is sad state for the NBA. I don't know tanking is the problem, but yeah, I like what makes a content disinterested after a certain point of the season. Like I was talking about the Suns.

Look, I think that this, and I didn't like it at first. I'm gonna be totally honest with you. I didn't like the playing situation. I'm gonna be totally honest with you, I didn't like the playing situation. I was like, what the fuck are they doing? Cause it's only 13, 14, how many teams in the conference? That means only three teams, guaranteed would definitely not make the opportunity to make the playoffs.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm sitting there saying, I don't like this. I think this is stupid or whatever the case may be. But when I looked at it, I'm saying, look, this almost gives a better opportunity, actually, a better opportunity, pardon me, five teams to make the playoffs. I gotta be on point with these motherfuckers.

These niggas go crazy out over here, man. So pardon me. It's actually five teams that don't have a chance to make the play. But it's actually genius if you think about it right, because you have a team, you got eight teams to make the playoffs. And if you're anywhere from nine to 10,

and of course seven and eight, you have a chance. So let's say for instance, right, let's just look at the record right here. We're looking at the Sacramento Kings right now that's currently in the tough seed, with their fight with Phoenix. They're not even 500. They're 36 and 39.

Now imagine they make the playoffs. I'm just giving scenarios here. They make the play-off under 500, end up making the playoffs and winning the first round. That means you had a chance not even to be 500 in a regular season and still make the playoffs. If you still want to take after that, goddamn, you didn't even have to play hard the regular season

to get in the playoffs. It's still an opportunity to be not even 500 and get to the playoffs and do some damage in the playoffs. So I thought this was genius. If a nigga's still tanking after that, well, God damn, man, listen, as much as I want Cooper flag on my team, if I'm on team as well,

cause listen, let's think about this, man. We had this conversation a season or two ago, or three ago, however long it goes. We still to this day have no white American that did the damn thing like Larry Bird. And Cooper Flagg looks really, really, really, really good. Not only is he a white American, that nigga from, he not middle American,

but he up there in Maine, white, white, whiteness. You know what I'm saying? Black niggas go to Maine to sell drugs to white people. I don't know if they still do that, pardon me, if anybody's up there. But that's what niggas used to go to Maine for, because Maine is cold as shit. Ain't no reason to be up there.

Maine and Vermont and all that other shit up that way. We get another white American basketball player that's nice, we've been waiting on that. So I can imagine teams drooling pause for Cooper Flagg. Not only he's doing well at Duke, we've seen what he did with the Olympic team in practice. That's where a lot of people started paying attention to him. The kid is really good and he has an upside.

So I get it. But you know, it's one of those situations where you be like, you know we can see you, right nigga? And I'm talking about teams tanking. Which you're sitting there right next to me, you know we looking at you, right? And that's why the NBA has teams on the investigation as we speak for shit like this.

Not only that, the NBA is not the NFL. The NFL, the worst team gets the first pick. The second worst team gets the second pick. The third worst team gets the third pick. The second worst team gets the second pick. The third worst team gets the third pick. It's not like that in basketball. You get in the lottery ball sports, and if you're the worst team, you get more lottery balls than the second worst team.

Let's just use an example. If you're the worst team in the NBA, you get eight lottery balls. If you're the second worst team, you get seven. If you're the third worst team, you get six. If you're the third worst team, you get six. Whatever the shit is, because you're the worst team, don't mean you guaranteed to get the first pick. So sometimes if they really are taking,

it's not gonna lead to you getting the first pick. Everybody in New York was losing their damn mind, thought they got jerked when the Knicks didn't get Zion. Oh, it's fixed. They don't want us to win. We never get a first pick, San City. Hey Mr. Patrick, we got a first pick, it's all set up. I'm like, yo, it's just the system, it is what it is. But those Tink teams, Tinker, what can you do?

What can you do? I think they did a great job including the plan to try and prevent from Tinker. After that, what's the next plan? Yeah, Figa, I think I definitely like that take, but I disagree with the part about it's better for the, not better for the NBA, but I think if you just keep it to eight teams,

it makes more people have to play. Because you can come in at the end, pause, and just play in the plan, a lot of people use that as a safety net to coast. And that's what we're seeing. Well, it's like a big indifference that's going on. That's the word I was looking for earlier. Everybody's just indifferent.

Like we could win, we don't have to win, because I know we're close enough to be in the play-in. And it's like, no, you should want to be 500. You should want to be a 600 team. You should want to have home court advantage. But I think the way that things are structured takes away a lot of the attitude and appetite pause for people to be great. That's what I really believe. But I definitely like that tape. And I was thinking about Cooper, Cooper Flag, if he goes to like Dallas, what does that look like? He goes, but he might end up going to Utah

or some place like that. And really, I think he's gonna be either as good as Larry Bird or Christian late now. I don't think there's no middle room. Okay, we'll of course see what happens eventually. Utah is kinda looking like that could be the choice for him. We will see. I kinda feel like it would be fun

to see him go somewhere else, but to each their own. Shit is, that's what I'm trying to say when it comes to the lottery with them. Yo, them lottery balls go wherever you want. It is no guarantee what team is gonna get them because if you have the most lottery balls, pause or the least, you got one lottery ball and then be the first pick.

It's just the way it is. Right. Yeah, as long as he doesn't go to the Washington Wizard. That's what I'm cool. But you can't stop that. He could, yeah. Cause the odds is like 14%, 14%. It's like the same for like- No, I know that.

I'm just saying that's probably where, it's one of those type of teams, Charlotte. But what I'm saying is to stat when she's reading the percentage, dumb shits don't matter. It's just the highest percentage. It doesn't mean that they're gonna get the pick. Every year is some team that's supposed to be,

if they have the highest percentage, and they never get the number one pick. It's the nigga with the third highest percentage. Right. It's real weird. I just know if he goes to San Antonio, it's rigged. That's some shit Sim would say. It's rigged.

I would like that. I think that's exactly what San Antonio need. Then they can start talking. I need to go to San Antonio. It'd be crazy. Not be a funny or nothing. Not gonna work. Popovich getting up. Pop coming back outside.

Pop coming back outside, he go to San Antonio. Thanks. Okay, so now we're gonna discuss Dion Sanders. So he earned a five year, 54 million dollar contract extension that runs through the 2029 season. With Colorado, this will make him the highest paid football coach in the Big 12 and among the top 10 highest paid

college football coaches in the country. His contract is actually around the same as Bill Belichick's. Mace, what do you think of this new deal for Deon? I'm really proud of Deon. And I hate when people use proud like they had something to do with it. I really didn't have anything to do with it. But I'm really proud to see how Dion has excelled like time after time, like at everything that he's done, every step of the way, every from college to college.

You know, I know I had some words that, um, some words that that, that was just concerns, but I'm really, I'm really excited to see what he was able to accomplish as well as this, this extension just proves that he belongs on this level and he, he actually belonged in the NFL. So they got a still and getting Dion being able to pay him that amount of money. Sometimes people think there's a whole lot that everybody else, but for a man that bring that kind of pizzazz, you know, I haven't heard that word in a long time, but a guy that brings so many things from mentorship to leadership to motivation to coaching to

fatherhood and is just so great to see him be rewarded in front of everybody. And not just rewarded in one institution, but rewarded on a national scale, because even though he did it at a black college, that's great, and I don't take nothing away from that, but he deserved to be honored on a main scale. Yeah, I want to read this from Coach Prom.

First of all, real quick, Coach Prom says, this is on his Instagram page, he's gonna make $20 per minute, $1,232 per hour, $29,589 per day, $207,000 per week, $900,000 per month. And this caption says, I prayed about something and a blessing came and God is using me to bless my kids.

I'm paraphrasing because it's a lot, and bless the people around me. Yo, you gotta love Coach Pram. Coach Pram is one of the market, this nigga's a marketing genius, bro. See, he had to post that, and I like that he posted that because he wants to let you know, listen, first of all, when Colorado signed him a couple years ago,

I remember they signed him for $5 million. And Athletic, they interviewed the Athletic Director. They said, do you have $5 million to pay DL? They said, no. But we gonna get it, we gonna find it. We gonna dig under some trees, bushes, whatever we gotta do, we gonna find it. But it just goes to the work ethic.

See, a lot of people see that like, yo, you don't understand the work ethic that goes into going from a $5 million two-year deal to a $54 million five-year deal. You're not, and a lot of times, not just that, anything that we do, as far as analysts or fans or anything else, you see a product on the floor,

but you don't see what it takes to get to the level of the product that you're seeing. Especially coaches, because when you're a coach on any level, you have to get there before the players, you have to stay after the players, you have to come up with schemes, you have to look at tape. It's really a tireless job, bro.

And I'm glad that he's getting rewarded, because like Mase just mentioned, we have to think about the longevity of Deon Sanders from high school sensation to college sensation to a baseball sensation to a football sensation. This is a guy who played in a football game and a basketball, pardon me, I keep saying basketball, baseball game

the same day in the World Series. Like bro, this nigga's phenomenal. Not only that, he gets to coaching, coaching high school in Texas. They're not giving him the money or whatever he needs to get it done. Goes to Jackson State, shot to the HBCUs, but he gave more light to the HBCUs,

does his thing over there, then comes in two years' time and turn Colorado program around. They won one game in a year before he got there. The first year he gets there, he wins four games. The next year he gets there, he makes it to a bowl game. Not only that, he builds up all the financial situations around the school.

So Buffalo Wild Wings, they motherfucking, bottom line went up 300% of Five Guys, or Burger King, or Twin Peaks Restaurant. Everything around, shit grew. Student enrollment up 80% of some wild shit. He brings something to the table outside of just him and he has that aura. Everybody doesn't have it, he has an aura.

You get there in dissonance for wearing sunglasses, next week he make $2 million on sunglasses. You sit there and say, okay, he's wearing a hat during interviews, he make another million dollars on sunglasses. You sit there and say, okay, he's wearing a hat during interviews, he make another million dollars on hats, he knows how to turn your hate into dollars. Not only that, what happens last year, he brings out the Nikes, the Deons that we already had, and it's the number one selling shoe for Nike last year.

This nigga recycle game is crazy. Shout out to Coach Proudman, I love you, I'm proud to call you a friend and big bro, and I'm happy for everything that you got going on right now. Yeah. Yeah, that was crazy, Killer. Of course. Yeah. What part you talking about? I forget what I said. His recycle game is crazy. That's Reacher. I'll take that to court. His recycle game, we go to court about that. We go to court.

We need the gavel and bat. We need the gavel and bat. We can go to court. I'm thinking that at the trial. His recycle game is Reacher. That's why I reach out. I'm going to court. If you want to go to court about that. We go to court. We need the gavel and bat. We need the gavel and bat. We go to court, I'm thinking about the trial. The recycle game is reaching. That's why I reach. I'm going to court. If you want to go to trial, court, I'll fight you to take it. Well, I got the indictment. Yeah, we can put that on the net. Yeah, right now, and the indictment is up.

Recycle game stat, is that reaching? It's recycled. I'll let the people decide. Yeah, yeah. I'm not taking it. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. I don't think it, I think it's a reach. No, there's a court I can follow, George. Thank you, that's what I'm saying. I think it the people decide. I'm not taking it. I'm not taking it. I'm not taking it. I'm just saying, I'm just, no. I don't think it, I think it's a reach.

No, wait, there's a court like the Florida joint. Thank you, I was like, it's a reach. I think it's a reach. But they might say something different. I was just asking y'all opinion. He asked you so you could have two witnesses before the court case. We forgot how Nick Saban was hating on him.

Yeah, true. We forgot how Nick Saban, he changed the whole thing. And Nick Saban was hating on him. Yeah, now Nick Saban doing commercials on the Aflac I'm Nick Saban, was hating on him. Yeah, now Nick Saban doing commercials with him. Like, aflac ropes. So he definitely deserved, everything is earned, nothing given. So he definitely earned that.

So he deserved it. Yeah, and I also just want to give him more of his flyers. When I look at this list of the coaches entering the new season, they got Kirby Smart, Ryan Day, Bill Belichick, Brian Kelly. Deion Sanders is the only black man on that list. He's continuing to set the standard and only make it higher and higher, which is great to see.

He deserves his flowers and Dawn Staley deserves her flowers. She became the highest paid women's college basketball coach. They both, I just think, have so much respect from everybody and anybody. And I think even if you didn't have roots, you know, with what school they're coaching at, by default, we all are just supporting and loving everything that they're doing because they showed us the standard,

and they did that. And they did it in a short amount of time, too. So congrats to both of them. Real quick, man, because a bunch of our fans was wondering about why we aren't covering college basketball. We're way to the Final Four. We're not gonna sit and act like we know a bunch about college basketball when everybody leaves every year,

but we are locked in for the final four, men and women. So we'll give you an update on that when that happens in the next few days. But bringing the reason I brought that up because I wanna give a shout out to Dawn Staley because this is her fifth straight final four. And I know we talk about Gino and a few other coaches and everybody else, but five straight final fours

there's nothing to sneeze at. And you don't have a one dominant player. That game she just played, her last game, she said her best play out the whole second half. I thought she was bugging the fuck out. I said, how you going to serve the whole second half? And she killed it. That just goes to show where you're an exceptional coach.

You know who to put in the game and who to take out for us. Yeah, so shout out to South Carolina for sure. Stay tuned for when we talk about the Final Forts. But that is all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching and as always, it is what it is. Thanks for watching!