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Mace will be back. and today we are joined with our analyst Maurice Claret. Y'all Moore was good, man. I don't know. I don't know if you know we're getting rich up here, man. A nigga Bernie took the news. I couldn't love him more, man. Couldn't love.

You know, we're about 3,000 in, B. Word, man. How are you doing? You good? Oh, all is two things. All is well. So y'all didn't set a price for, if you totally absent. So y'all set a price if you were like a minute late,

then 30 minutes late, but if you ask that should be like triple the price. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one, man. We ought to see because I know he probably ain't liking this rule right now, man. So we'll see what happens. But good to see you, man. You know, listen, man, and being that he's not here, just so you know,

me and Nick got some palm trees on the way. I don't know if they got there. No, no, no, they're back there. Do you see? Let us see. Yeah, man. We couldn't wait on murder, man. I'm so mad.

We got the palm. We sent the palm trees in. We got to be waiting like that. Fucking up the credibility of a Harlem nigga like that, man. Come on now. I'm going after they got there, man. Yeah, man.

I appreciate them. Look, I had to appreciate them. I had to cut them to get them through the door. And they're there. They're pleasant. And so, yeah, there we go. I appreciate it. So shout out to you.

Shout out to Nick. I appreciate it. No problem, man. I'm so mad he ain't here to see this, but I definitely remind him about it tomorrow. We can actually add a screen grab and show him. Like, you know how I did the, we could show him and get his thoughts,

because I still think that would make sense, because this is crazy. Everything is crazy. I'm confused. I already know what he's going to say. He's going to say, he's going to say them the cheap palm tree. I already know he's waiting for some shit from Japan.

He's going to say he's waiting for some Mediterranean joints. It takes six months to get here. I already know it. It's all good, though, but I'm happy you got them, Mo. Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate it. You make Harlem look good, my brother.

There you go. We're trying, man. You're trying, man. There's a Harlem Queen's collabo, man. Nick is as well, man. You know what I'm saying? So I got to give you Nick a shout out too. Shout out, Nick, my brother.

Okay, so we got some football to talk about. A lot of things are switching up recently. So let's start with Kyler Murray. he will be released when the New Year League begin bearing an unforeseen trade. The Cardinals will have a $47.5 million cap hit in dead money if cut by March 15th. This move will avoid any guaranteed money in 2027. Maurice, was it time? And then do you still see him as like a franchise quarterback?

What are your thoughts? Yeah, I think last year was the time. And I think they gave him one more year because where they draft to him at and how much guaranteed money that they had. invested into him. And when you see all of the pieces that they had added to basically become competitive and try to put themselves in a different situation, it was clear that, and I don't know if it's height, you know, it is a league of people who are tall, both office alignment, defense alignment, and maybe stuff that he did at the collegiate level didn't translate. But I think last year was

a time and they held on for as long as they did. But, you know, when you went to go see the success of Sam Darnold and then all of these other quarterbacks who are in the free agent market coming up. You have to say to yourself like, man, let's go ahead and cut our losses, move on from him, but then try to grab one of these other guys who may be in the open markets

to sort of revive our franchise. And so you don't get all these number one picks and add these pieces and have all of these other elements that you can't capitalize on. So I think it was time and I don't see him as being a franchise quarterback somewhere.

else. I think there's a lot of people who have collegiate success, but sometimes that stuff just doesn't translate to the NFL. It's not to sit there bad players, but it's just a different style game. Yeah, listen, I kind of seen this, but I wasn't sure because I wasn't putting too much stock after the first maybe six weeks in Arizona. They look good at the beginning of the seizure, and then they kind of went downhill. And then when we see how good Jacoby Perci was playing, Everybody's like, yo, he still wasn't translating in the wins, but they're like, damn, what do you do? Do you bring Callow Murray back when his injury is over?

What do you do, yada, yada, yada, yada. And I think they prolonged saying he was injured, so it just wouldn't be weird because they didn't want to take Jacoby percent out. So I think that they were saying that he was injured longer than he really was injured. But look, man, Caller Murray, his first two, three, first two seasons were sensational. I forget what it was, but he had like something, 24 touchdowns, 10 of the deception.

He had a good, good first two years, and then we've seen it starting to dwindle. I think this is like a catastrophic drop where he's at now to where he first came in his first two years. But as far as him being one of them dudes again, yeah, to me, absolutely. It depends on his situation, right? Nobody thought that we would be talking about breathing the breath of Sam Donald being a Super Bowl champion. You know what I'm saying? We didn't think about Gino Smith, even though he's not in a great position now, but going to Seattle and reviving his career.

You know, we're looking at another topic we have somewhere even though he's still young, Daniel Jones. There's a lot of people that's just not in the right situation. and I'm not saying that Arizona is the best team or the best organization, but it just takes being in the right situation. I'm not going to count him out because we've seen this story happen a few different times as of recent, not just years ago, recently, seeing quarterbacks just being put in a better situation. They're even talking about Call and Murray possibly going to Cleveland.

And I'm like, yo, God damn. Cleveland just love having quarterback problems. They love it. They love that controversy over there in Cleveland. They said, fucking, we can't win no game. Let them talk about us about something. You know what I'm saying? Then you think about it.

What if you do a calumary tour swap? Does he do better in Miami? Who's Miami's quarterback moving forward? So I'm definitely not going to count him out. But I would just say from where he started his professional career, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but you go look at this numbers the first two years to where they're at now. He's like, damn, how we get here.

But he's too young for me to just dismiss him and say he won't be the quarterback of a franchise moving forward because he's still young. He's still got time and there's still some pretty bad franchises out here that can use a decent quarterback. So let's actually discuss some of these franchises because there have been some names that have been dropped. So potential five landing spots that were suggested

were the Vikings, the Jets, the Steelers, the Dolphins, and then the Falcons. Maurice, do you think any of these teams would be a really good fit for him? I think the Vikings may be number one just because you've seen what happened with J.J. McCarthy last year

and they had a huge falloff and they put all of that money in him. They drafted him in the first round, like I think the eighth pick or something. So I see the Jets happening. I don't see him going to, or the Vikings happening. I don't see him going to the Jets.

I don't think the Hays. head coached to God who I came from Detroit. I don't think that he'll put that much stock into that. And I think the Justin Fields thing was a debacle, so they wouldn't want, like, a version of that to come back. I like the Miami thing. Like, if you're thinking about where he could go from the people that you just named when you say Miami and, like, being around to and being after that,

that may be a fit. But I just don't know. I'm not saying his career is over, but I'm not saying. his career is over, but I will say that I'm just one of those old school people that believes that at the quarterback position at the NFL level, you have to be 6-2, 6-3, 6-4 just to make all of the throws that is required, you know, to be made in order to go, you know, either deep into the playoffs or go win a championship. So that's my thought on that's no knocks to him. And then, you know, to what Cam was talking about earlier,

sometimes that they'll say, you know, if you have an athletic quarterback, or you have a very dynamic player and they come in the league. They typically have success early on until people find out their tendencies and then when they find out their tendencies have a read on them, they'll then build defenses around him to attack him.

And so I think that he had a lot of success because people didn't know how to prepare for him. But once you get through a few scouting reports or a few seasons, you find out what throws that he makes very well and then you start to take away stuff that he necessarily can't see or you can manipulate him.

So not saying his career is over, but I'd understand. believe that, man, height matters when you're talking about, and I say, pause, when you're talking about the quarterback position in NFL? Yeah, that's a good point, man. And I'm not saying he's super tall. He's not actually met Kyle or Murray. The thing about him, he's fast, and he can scramble.

And not saying that the height doesn't matter. But, you know, it's just, it's just wow where Stats says absolutely, because I know she's referring to Russell Wilson. Okay. The whole thing about it. Yeah, but the whole thing. about it is Russell Wilson is actually a bad call away

from being a two-time Super Bowl champion. He's a one-time Super Bowl champion and Pete Carroll made a wild call when you got motherfucking Marshawn Lynch on the one-yard line. Don't run the ball. And then you miss two-cham... In my brain, he's a two-time champion.

It's Pete Carroll's 40s. So I don't know what Scott's referring to when she's talking about, absolutely. Absolutely. Who? You talk about Russell Wilson? Are you talking? Because he's really a two-time champion in my brain. He's really won, but, I mean, that's Pete Carroll's fault

that you want to throw the ball on a one-yard line when you got Marshawn Lynch sitting right there, Beastmo. So I don't know who she's talking about, because still hate on Russell Wilson. It's crazy. You actually play Disa for y'all, I think. But back to the original questions. What team is, look, man, I don't know.

I know they have a new general. manager in Minnesota. You know, they fired queasy mess, of course. You went with McCartney and got rid of Sam Donald. You know, they fired that nigga over that shit.

I ain't blaming them, neither, because they said, look, he ain't played these last two games, y'all, they didn't want to pay him the money. You niggins go on and win the Super Bowl. They actually fired him right before the Super Bowl. You look, these are the shit that cost you jobs. Like, that nigga, JJ,

I don't know what you guys. Like, you course that man the general manager position. Black nigga, too. That's the shit I'm talking about. Black Nick, cost that man a job, my nigga, playing games.

Believe in you. Minnesota, I'm not mad at Minnesota. The Falcons, I'm not sure because, look, we're going to talk about that too about Kirk Hussein's in a minute. But is there a chance I'm going to start

with Penix there. So am I battling for the job or if Pennix hurt in the beginning of the season? I know he left with an injury. Let's say he is hurt in the beginning. See, I don't know how deep his injury he was,

but when he comes back as his job given to him, we know it's a new rain down there as far as coaching that's concerned in Atlanta. I'm not sure what I do with Atlanta.

I don't want to go no mom to fucking Jets. I just don't want to do it, my nigga. Even if I play good on offense, even if I play good on offense, we know that the defense ain't getting no interceptions.

You know, I can't depend on that defense now. And that's not just a shame because, you know, right before Aaron Rogers came, the New York Jets was considered as a league best defense, and that's why they went out to get Aaron Rogers. It's just been a mess ever since Aaron Rogers got there. And who's all the two teams set?

Yeah, you said, yeah, Miami and the Steelers, but yeah. According to the stack, y'all don't want them. According to me, I don't, but I'll... According to staff, the Steelers don't want him. He's too short to be a quarterback. But what's the real situation in Pittsburgh? Wait for Aaron Rogers to make a decision? You know, I think Aaron Rogers, I'm not saying he don't.

deserve it. I just think that he's one of them quarterbacks that doesn't, isn't going to want to make a decision on his career until it's closer to the season. And at that time, you have people who, um, say, we can't wait till the end of the season. I mean, right before the season to make a start. This is the same way that Brett Farb got out of Green Bay, year after year after year, making the decision last minute whether he wants to come back. What I would say is this real. quick. Miami, and let me do that with Miami. Miami, look, that may not be a bad place for him. He just left

Arizona. Arizona's pretty warm over there. It's hot, Miami. The temperature might be good for. I don't know. And none of these teams sound appetizing as far as if you want to go win a Super Bowl. But last thing I'll say about this is that, you know,

it's like rumbling to Aaron Rogers, possibly going to Minnesota. Because that's where he kind of wanted to go originally anyway. You know, When you don't leave the franchise that you first started with, same thing kind of like with Brett Faw. You want to go play them twice a year because you got a little attitude with them niggas.

Like, okay, y'all they see it. Let's play. I can't wait to play y'all niggas two times of years. Kind of like we're seeing that now with... What's your old coach name? Mo? Can't think of that nigger name. Just left y'all into Atlanta.

The Braille's former coach. Oh, it's the fansky. Yeah. Yeah. Stapansky, right? We look in there, yeah, we look at Stafansky in Atlanta right now,

and we talk about Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield said, I can't wait to play him twice a year. Nicky just going to cut me. Whatever, how I've ended with Baker McPhil? I can't remember right now. You're like, yeah, a nigga ain't called me or nothing. I was cut. I didn't get no good by-letter or nothing.

I can't wait to play this nigga twice a year. year. So those little grudges sometimes matter, and that's why his talks of possibly Aaron Rogers might be going to Minnesota if he decides to play anymore, because that's where he kind of want to originally go anyway when he left Green Bay. But as far as the five teams, stat name, I don't know none of them teams just say an appetizer to win the Super Bowl. So I don't wish that on Cala Murray anywhere else, but I don't know where it's another open spot at where he could be a contest. under. Yeah, it's, it's a, it's a hard situation for him. And I don't think it's over for him either. I know I said what I said about the height. I fully feel that way and I feel that way because it's

not like I just viewed it. I felt like I was in it and I don't want no parts. I think he could be great, probably somewhere else. I personally don't want to try it out. And I know you're talking about Russ got cheated or whatever he's supposed to have two. But if we start with the facts, shout out Maurice, he does only have one. So we have to go with that. I'm just. just going to put that out there. I think the only short quarterback that, like, I'm okay with. And obviously, he's set where he is, is Bryce Young because we saw how he turned it around for the Panthers.

But I just, I, I'm okay, you know? Like, I think short quarterbacks obviously still have the potential to win. Shout out Russell Wilson. I just think that for our situation, specifically, and we got a whole new thing going on. I just don't think it's the time to be trying that, to experiment that, to do any of that. I'm okay. But I think he will thrive elsewhere, you know? Like his season, he got hurt and it just unfortunately, like,

somebody else took over what he started. And I think that he'll be able to thrive somewhere else. I just don't want it to happen in Pittsburgh. I'm going to say that now. Like, this is like my letter right now, please. Because we always do something that doesn't make sense at the beginning of the season. I'm just hoping that doesn't happen now. But yeah, maybe the Dolphins is a great option.

We'll see. We'll see. But shout out of California. Yes. Let me ask you this real quick before, Mo. Uh-huh. Huh? Like, so how many championships was Mike Taublin have?

He has one. All right, Mo, you could go. You got just as many as Mike. Okay. And? And? Just saying. Yeah.

So I was going to ask her. Like, he got, Mike Tomlin got one and he's supposed to be this great coach, right? He is. He is. He is. And he still is. Okay. Okay.

well, they threw Russell Wilson under the bus. He's a big part of that championship. How many Super Bowls is white-tonglin bench? Here's the thing, though. We're talking respect and respectfully. We're talking win or talk.

Kyler Murray is only even the playoffs. Like, I don't want to backtrack. At least let's start with, let's just. We're just having a conversation. We are having a conversation. That's what I'm saying. I don't want to backtrack. I don't.

Like, at this point, like, unless we have a top pin. Did you say? You said let's start with the facts. No, I know. I'm saying unless we have a top pick specifically in the draft, if we had a higher draft pick, that's the only reason where I'm like more okay with starting from the beginning.

But right now, we already got too, we already have cowboy territory for the steel. Like, there's too much going on. I don't think we need a backtrack and start with the shorter quarterback again. I just think if they need to work with Aaron Rogers and that's what we need to do, cool.

Then we move forward. But we cannot move backwards. I think it works for the. the Dolphins. I think it might work for the Vikings. I just don't think it's going to work for us. That's all I'm saying. That's all. How many Super Bowls have Mike Tomlin been to? That's all. He's been to

one. I'm blanking on the number two. Yes. I thought it was two. Yeah. So him and Russell Wilson are the same position. No, but that's not the same. That's not the same. Okay. But let me make this clear. Let me make this clear.

I have a lot of respect. I was experience getting on, as far as experience on getting to the Super Bowl, they have the same experience on getting to the Super Bowl. And he was like, what he did? And so Mike Tom was great. Russell Wilson just throwing away. No, but I have a lot of respect for us. But at the same time, that did not work for us.

So let's not try to do something. I'm okay. I get it. Because you're putting that in the universe and we don't need that right now. We don't. I'm just defending Russell Wilson because you're trying to. You was down with him. Then when you started losing, you turned your back on him.

Then you took your father to Pittsburgh game and you talk about I see the problem. He's my hype. I'm just saying. That's what I'm saying. Kyler Murray is shorter. Like, I don't, I'm okay. It's okay. It's not going to do with Cala Murray.

This only has to do with you said, well, since we're going to state the facts, he didn't went to. Yes, because you step up for Russell. And I love that. Any other episode? But specifically for this case, no, not doing it. No problem. You have a point.

No, I was going to tease you. I was going to tease you and say you used to feel that way about Carson Beck. And then Carson Beck and they're taking your canes to the championship. So I was just teasing. Didn't win. But you can't hate on me. He brought you all there. You can't hate on that.

No, there's no hate. It's respect. I mean, I'm still obviously upset about how things turned out, but that's football. That's just how the game goes. But look, at the end of the day, in Carson Beck's defense, nobody beat Indiana that year, not even Mo. No. No. We lost two, Stats.

Yeah, that's fair. There's the best anymore way around, man. That's fair. That's a very, very good enough for Stap, Mo. Yeah, she was slandered Carson Beck for two years, man. But I wish him the best of luck in the draft. I wish him the best of luck in the draft. But again, like, not the Steelers anywhere else.

Okay. It's going to bring it. That's all. Okay. So another QB. Kirk Cousins. So he is going to no longer be with the Falcons. His move comes after two seasons with the team.

They'll be shifting focus to 24. First round pick, Michael Pennix. And Kirk Cousins will become a free agent, Maurice. what do you see happening with Kirk? Man, Kirk is going to make some more money. Shout out to Kirk, because of his agent.

When I looked up his contract and all of what my man was guaranteed over these last few years, he literally robbed a bank and has, I think, when Nick said it before the show, that he's the fourth highest paid person in the NFL. So from a personal standpoint,

I'm proud of his agent and getting him all of the money that he's gotten. but when you talk about where does Kirk Cousins land, I think that he actually might end up in Arizona. I think you're going to have him try to get out to Arizona and sort of be the piece that they need. You know, and I'm telling you, the NFL is a very trendy league. And when you see people who Daniel Jones goes from the Giants to the coach

that he has success and Sam Darno goes from the Vikings to, excuse me, to the Seahawks to have success. and I think Cam said, and I do agree with him, like your situation just allows you to propel. But I see him, I don't see him with the Jets and people taking a flyer on him. I see him going back out there to replace Kyle and Murray. So that's my thoughts on him.

But shout out to his agent for getting paid the way he's done because if you've made over a quarter billion dollars and you've paid a quarter of that time, you know, you've done well for yourself. So shout out to him. Yeah, I was going to start with what Mo said, because I didn't know this before, either and Nick pointed out to me, for him to be fourth time, think about how long the NFL been in play. We think about all these great players. For him to be fourth time ever in Money Made in the NFL is amazing.

You know, it is. And Mo gave the best shot out. Shout to his agent going to get him that bread. So that's amazing On the self We don't realize It's this right When you think about

Robert Griffin Jr. The third You think about how far He's been removed From the NFL Right Because of injuries Concussions

Whatever it is You don't even really Think about him To the casual Being a football player We see him more recently For analyzing On ESPN

Or whatever he's going through On the internet with his girlfriend and all this other stuff. Kurt Cousins was his backup for three years. And Kirk Cousins is still playing. We don't, you know, like I said, we don't even, it's been, I don't know how long Robert Griffin, Jr. been out the league, but we don't even really consider him

as a quarterback. We look at him more as the analyst. And for Kurt Cousins to be his backup is still playing now. It's amazing. I didn't think about what Mosef's or Mosecette. Arizona might be a great destination for him to land at. And I was just thinking more of Kirk Cousman being a great, great backup quarterback. Because we think about how Flocko came off the couch and helped Cleveland a couple years ago.

Then also, after he gets off the couch, he ends up last year actually starting it quarterback for Cleveland. After being a backup quarterback in Indianapolis and Richardson got her and he ended up starting it. So Flacco, for somebody who was on the couch, the last, you know, for a couple of seasons, get off the couch, get in, come right into motion, play decent for Cleveland, play decent for Indianapolis, start last year for Cleveland again. I think Kirk Cousins could play that role, but I didn't think about a starting job for Kirk Cousins until just now. So I think that was a great take more. I'll have to put some more thought into where he would be able to start at. You can't go wrong with Kirk Cousins as a backup. And I ended with saying that we always talk about players getting a franchise attack

and how they don't like it because it's only one year. And we don't know if they're going to get hurt in this one-year deal, etc., etc. And Kurt Cousins made a career of being a franchise attack. That's why he was getting so much money. But the reason why I worked out for Kirk Cousins and it may not work out for other players, we're in a league now that you can't even touch the quarterback. You hit the quarterback too late. It's a flag.

You know, you sit there and sneeze by accident from 20 feet away. Any other particles getting on a quarterback. It's a penalty. You can't touch the quarterback. So this is the franchise tag for a quarterback to me. That's saying quarterback still can't get hurt. But it's less opportunity for them to get hurt than any other position. But shout to him and his agent because via franchise tag worked out.

really, really well financially for Kirk Cousins. Yeah. So Maris, I know you brought up, you know, Kirk's all time. And I did kind of want to bring this up just for the viewers because it is an interesting fact. So he's made $322 million over his 14-year NFL career, which is just $11 million less than Tom Brady. We know Matthew Stafford is the current leader with $403 million in career earnings. And then Aaron Rogers ranked second with a total of $395 million. So I know you guys are saying he could go somewhere else. Like, if it were you, at one point, are you like, you know what?

Maybe I'll retire. Just keep this money and do broadcasting. Or do you feel like because you still can play, you should still play. Maurice. Yeah, I think there's two things I say. And I think you could take Cam's point. And when you're literally not getting hit or you're not required to go to the ground and get tackled is basically like you working out and out of habit.

doing the same thing that you've been doing for the last 14 or 15 years. And sometimes I think that when we talk to athletes and we talk about money, people talk about $30, 40, $50 million, or even $20 million to play football. People talk like that's like $3,500 or something. That's a lot of money to go to somebody's practice field, watch film, film, go around the country and just do that. It's just a ton of money, right? And I know he can make some money broadcasting, but that's one thing.

But then I also remember when Joe Flacco, they had did an interview with him, and they said, man, Joe, why do you keep on going? And he said, it's going to come at some point when I can't do this anymore. And he said, it's not really about the money, but it's about just me doing it as long as I can do it. Because once it's over, like, you can never get it back. It's sort of like that mentality of like every yard that I can give to the game or all an effort I can give to the game. I've seen so many people get this thing cut short for whatever reason. And so, man, when you sit in here making all of this money, you can have a bunch of money,

but enough is never enough. You know what I mean? If you can say go out here and you make $20 million by being smarting back up, you're going to go do it. And so that's just, that's my opinion. And that's what I would do. I would, for lack of better words,

pause, milk the cow as long as I can milk it before I had to transition and do broadcasting or whatever. Yeah, I agree with Mo. As long as you still can do it, why not? Why not? And then we see a few different scenarios, right?

We'll look at Tom Brady, or we look at Tony Romo. I don't know what Trey Eggman's making. There's very few that's going to make $25, $30 million broadcast. You know what I'm saying? Tom Brady's getting paid more broadcast than quarterback. So everybody's not going to go get that money.

But I agree with them because, look, unless you have your future lot down, not saying Kirk Cousin does it, you might get bored home and get that itching and it's like, damn, I can still do this. And you may not get the call. again in two years to come do it

or three years to come do it but you're saying to yourself damn I could have stayed a couple more years and got a couple more dollars I remember it's going to take something like where you get hit crazy and then it wakes you up saying what the fuck am I doing out here

but you can't hit niggas crazy no more I remember Kurt Warner Kurt Warner was getting older he was winning and I forget what game it was but he got hit. This nigga, Kurt Warner. This is when you still could hit the nigga, of course.

He got hit, and that nigga might have retired that night. No, I'm exaggerating, but that nigga said, man, fuck this shit. I'm not playing no more. And you can't do that no more to the quarterback. So I would play until the wheels fall off, man. And he didn't like, you know, that's me forgetting yesterday. Kurt Warner, you know what I'm saying? He's a Super Bowl champion.

You've been in the Super Bowl or anything like that. But he's a damn decent quarterback. quarterback. You don't get franchise tagged if you're not decent or valuable to the team because you only get one franchise tag per player per year. So obviously, teams seem some value in him. He had to, he had a good couple seasons. You know, then he became a backup, had to come in when Pennitz got hurt and asked to rally the Falcons to try to get to the playoffs, so on and so I don't think because the last two years hasn't been good. But we were talking about Kurt Warner three years ago, two and a half three years ago.

Don't get me on follow time catches up to all of us. Possibly being a league MVP. I remember the nigger was on the jet. He had the jewelry on. They had him like just doing the dancing and this shit on the plane. Kurt Warner's was lit like two and a half three years ago. So I think it'll be a great backup somewhere. Mo made the best statement I thought about where Arizona.

But I'm playing until I can't play no more, especially if I'm going to give me a number of eight-digit contract. Absolutely. I'll also add, Kirk Cousins did really good at just maximizing his earnings overall because even just recently during the playoffs, like he was doing in-game calls, doing broadcasting, announcing. So the fact that he can do that and then potentially, like you said, just go back and be a backup quarterback. And like if I were him, you would make all this, then he probably will just go off the grid for a little bit and then just be able to enjoy. because, I mean, he's young enough still. Still, can still, like, he's not having any, like, extra injuries or anything like that. He could kind of just chill and just maximize that.

So shout out to him for being smart about it because aren't. He's younger than Amher Rogers. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, no, I'm going to first mad today. He said, anything Steelers-related? No, no. No, I'm not saying for the Steelers, because I don't know if he's going back to the Steelers.

Yeah. I'm just saying it. general like you're not forced to Aaron Rises, not you, I'm talking about people. Yeah. You're not necessarily, some people will be like, yo Aaron need to retire, but you, if you're the Minnesota Vikings or Pittsburgh or somebody,

like, nah, we still can use him. He's younger than Joe Flacco. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So they like it ain't niggas older than him. Yeah. Playing. It wasn't for you, sad. I'm just saying people older than him in the quarterback position that's still playing out there. Okay, so on to the Colts. So the Colts

have placed Daniel Jones on a rare transition tag, and they give Anthony Richardson permission to seek a trade. So regarding the transition tag, it guarantees the Colts the right of first refusal for Daniel Jones, preserving the right to match any competing offer sheet he might sign with an interested club. The news comes ahead of Tuesday's deadline to assess franchise or transition tags on players who are scheduled to hit free agency next week. So if Daniel Jones does not sign a competing offer sheet, he would earn a one-year guaranteed salary of $37.8 million.

This is a rare thing. What's your opinion on this transition tag for Daniel Jones? Yeah, after you read the whole thing, I didn't know that first part where the Colts had, I encourage Anthony Richardson. Yeah, I don't know. I'm talking about Anthony Richardson's trade. Yeah.

So to me, if I'm thinking about it, I think that they did it to protect themselves. I don't think that Anthony Richardson is going to hit the open market and somebody's going to offer him a starting position at the organization. I don't think it's going to happen, but I think that in the event that he does hit the open market and somebody does it, I think that they want to at least be able to retain him in some capacity. So I think they put it on him as a controlling mechanism. But for me, if I'm Anthony Richardson, after a year that Daniel Jones had, I don't remember.

Did he have an Achilles injury or something like that? I knew it was something like or a calf strain, something towards the end of the season. It's not looking too good for him. So to me, that whole situation is just messy. I would say like this, that's just messy. But if I was the coach, I would go ahead and pursue a career with Daniel Jones because I don't think Anthony Richardson, he'll have too much pressure to perform like Daniel Jones was performing last year.

And he will always be up against that performance. And so I think the coach did it to protect themselves. But to me, it's just messy at this point. Because you really need him to fail to get the guy that you want in. And you're not going to give value out of us. I had any Richardson. And Stan, repeat the question. I heard it, but let me answer it correctly.

Yeah, so basically, Colts gave Daniel Jones a rare transition tag. So basically, they can have the right of first refusal for Daniel Jones preserving the right to match any competing offer sheet. He might sign with an interested team. But in addition to that, they also gave Anthony Richardson permission

to seek a trade. How much is, Daniel, you set the price. That's what I really was better at all. He would earn a one-year guaranteed salary, of 37.8 million if he does not sign a competing offer sheet. Yeah, you know what this is about. Richardson, they don't go, let's do Richardson first. Richardson that.

And this is one thing when we talk about players with injuries. I feel bad for Richardson, right? Because we always talk about, oh, this nigga don't play, this thing can't make it. He didn't even get a chance to start an NFL career, so we know he's not bullshit. You know what I'm saying? we sit there say damn he

he was supposed to be one of them once and then he keeps getting hurt his biggest fault was when he said he was tired the time he's talking about he's tired you getting up and down the film and he's oh really yo flaco he's gonna fuck this young

nigga talking about he's tired you you 89 years old get in there so don't get tired fucking mean he tired and that was the one thing detrimental to him because he had a couple good games and then he came off injury came back and it was plainly tired. They sat his ass down again.

But I feel bad because injuries hindered him to see if he does have the potential. Not only if he has the potential, if he could be sustainable even if another team gets him because they're like, we never really got a chance to see how you were

paying out in the NFL. So that's that with him. I'm wishing the best. I don't think it's going to be anybody who really wants to trade for him unless he could. I don't even know the rules if he could go work out for another team or something like that. But if I'm a GM, I need to see you work out. You got to show me some

spectacular shit in the workout because what we've been seeing from you in the NFL as far as you're not available. Back to Daniel Jones, you know, this shit ain't about nothing. You know what this shit is about? All they say in Daniel Jones to the

you want long-tone contract, get out there. See what's out there for you. See if you get more than $37 million. Because they have to write the match it. They do that they do that in the music business right it's contract right it's called first right or refusal so basically they give you a one album deal or one single let's just use album deal they give you a one album deal and then they have the option to get a second album from you if so they so basically it's the same thing let's just say you sign the deaf jam one album deal with a with a

first right or refusal meaning that you can go do your thing, but give us a chance to match it. So if Columbia record comes in and says, yo, we got two million for you. Devjian might be like, we got two million for you. We gave you the opportunity, right, nigga? We got you. Let us at least give an opportunity to match the two million Columbia's offer you. And that's the same thing going on here. Dan Jones may think he hotter than what he is. And the calls are saying, if you can get more than 37, go get it. But if you get more than that,

let us get the chance to match it remember they forgot about you and the Giants you went to Minnesota after the Giants they went with the JJ nigga right we got your hat nigga we got too late now you're talking about you

we'll go get more money let me see let me see go get it let me see and if you get it we'll match it that's what they're doing so they're saying if a team is basically going to offer you $42 million $40 million

$45 million we're going to match it And I think that's what the cults will do. They just don't want to overspend. They just say, we don't want to get this nigga $45 million if he's not worth $45 million. Now, he had the first great three quarters of the season, but we did finish the job, but he looks sensational. If there's a team out there willing to give him that bread, we'll match it. But right now, we got the nigga $37 million.

We're going to give him another dollar for him. See, let him go test the market out. That's what's going on. They ain't going to let that nigga go. they're just going to try and keep them in 37 million. His quarterback's not against 60 million right now a year. So that's what Daniel Jones is trying to get some of that close to the 50 million. And the costs are going to match whatever offer is offered to him.

That's what's happening. They ain't like that. They ain't going nowhere. That was a great breakdown. And obviously we see that Daniel Jones is a great fit for the Colts. So we'll see what happens there. But we're going to go to break. When we return,

will discuss athletes against the Hawks Magic City Night. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back. So in a previous episode, we discussed this Hawks Magic City Night where they were going to be basically in theme honoring the strip club, however way you want to take it. But one athlete set the tone. A couple athletes came and followed to disagree with what's going on. So Luke Cornett is requesting the Hawks cancel their Magic City Monday theme night. So he actually has a blog. And on his blog posts, and I'm going to read the whole thing, so we have full context. He said, Hawks failed to acknowledge that this place is as the business itself boasts Atlanta's premier strip club. Given this fact, I would like to respectfully ask that the Atlanta Hawks cancel this promotional night with Magic City.

The NBA should desire to protect and esteem women, many of whom work diligently every day to make this the best basketball league in the world. We should promote an atmosphere that is protective and respectful of the daughters, wives, sisters, mothers, and partners that we know and love. Allowing this night to go forward without protest would reflect poorly on us as an NBA community, specifically in being complicit in the potential objectification and mistreatment of women in our society. The NBA should desire to protect and esteem women. And Al Horford, Horford gave his two cents agreed. Maurice, a lot there from this blog. Do you think this is a fair take?

What do you think about what Luke Cornyette had to say? It is just his perspective. And, you know, anybody can have their perspective on the issue and everybody won't agree. But you do have to also honor that, excuse me, whether you agree or not, Atlanta has his own culture. Strip club culture is normal business down there, just as if you've grown up in Texas and you have kids with rifles and they go hunting at early ages and you could frame that differently if you want to, right? And there's a lot of things that if you frame them to make them look bad, you would frame them to look bad and call it for what it is. But I don't think that's anything wrong. It's just that's Atlanta culture.

If you're in the city, if you're moving around, a strip club culture, and how he may view it in his hometown if he grew up in the Bible Belt, which I see that he did. And if you grew up with like religion being the dominant thing as to how you view the world, you're going to have that perspective. but I don't say anything wrong with it. If I sat here and I got mothers against drunk driving, they could frame why do you have tailgates and why do you drink all the time? And I'm not saying he's right or wrong, but I'm just saying with anything,

you can frame it how you want to and try to act like you're taking the moral high ground because everybody who goes into adult entertainment, rather they strip clubbing or rather you do adult porn, it doesn't mean that they've been abused or they're getting abused. They just happen to choose this line of stuff for work. You know what I'm saying?

So the NBA aligns itself on a lot of stuff that, depending on who you are, you can look at is wrong. So I think sometimes we make things more than what they are. And I think when you, you know, I just think sometimes we make stuff more to what it is. Have a night, have fun, honor the people who make Atlanta cool. And just because it isn't your version of cool, it doesn't mean it's not cool for other people. Is he black or white? White.

Protesting this, nigga. I'm protest start with you, nigga. Fuck you talk about. Protests start with that encyclopedia you wrote. I ain't listen to half that shit. Fuck you talking about all those big-ass words. You know who gonna be at Magic Seek Monday? Thi-I, expeditiously.

Fucking you talking about, nigga. What the fuck? The big-ass fucking essay you wrote, nigger, nobody can fuck about that shit. What you're talking about? Man, this shit balancing out. This niggas out here mad that niggas got fingernail polish and all that.

I'm not that mad anymore. You know what I'm saying? How the fuck you ain't protesting against that? It's niggas who mad about that? It's this shit balancing out. This culture, nigga, this, where the nigger from? Where the nigga from?

I got to do a little more. Where the nigger from. Kentucky, I'll double check. They got to look at him. Yeah. Lexington. Lexington. Yeah,

Shabbled Lex Louis. Listen, you mad niggas one, the girl man want to see tities and ass. Not saying

that's going to be there. They just represent that night. And I bet you one thing, I bet you course I'll be flooded.

Boosey, two chains, Gucci man, all the niggas we want to see. Fuck as you talk about, man. The audacity of you,

man. Al Hoffer, you too. Buy your business. You got nothing to do with you. Don't jump on that nigger.

Bannwagon, you Spanish you got the most best of beautiful strippers fuck as you talking about nigga like yo the greater women these women make a living man

you know they make a good money off of this man and some women some dances right now that tell you fuck off you're trying to fuck up my income this is what I like to do I remember before social

media that was a way to pay for your college tuition girls were stripping to go to college. It always been, they'd always been room for this. It's not that, look, you know what? It's about to be 9.30, 10, the month.

Babe, where we going when I'll finish filming? We're going to eat wangling and look at the titty this morning. She wants to go. She needs to go to the strip club. That's what this is.

I'm in asking to go. Fuck that nigga talking about. He out of his mom, man. Go back where you came from with that dumb shit. Go shoot hoops and go home. Wow. What's your pot stat? Wow.

I was like an all-time rant. And like the thing about it is I'm usually the one that's like, but guys, I agree. I genuinely don't, I literally don't see an issue with it. I don't know exactly the context of what the promotion is going to be, but like I heard wings are in play. People are going to show up for wings. People are going to show up for lemon pepper hot wings. Like they just are. And then you add in a basketball game.

And then I'm sure if they have the girls they're representing, like I just, I don't understand what the expectation is. I'm like, the girls are going to be clothed. Like it's not like that. Like the NBA is not going to do that. so I just don't, I don't know. There's a lot of uproar though. So I know that my take is like, but stat, like it is disres. I don't even see it as disrespectful to win.

Like I think it's more liberating. Like if you want to, if that's what you want to do, that's a decision that you want to do. I'm not going to tell you what you can and can't do with your life. I can advise things. But if that's what you do and that pays the bills and that's what you want to do and nothing is offensive, nobody is in harm. No, I can't even just think of all the things. Like, I just don't think that it's.

doing anything detrimental to the team or detrimental to the women involved. Like, that's a choice. So, like, I agree with Cam and I agree with Maurice. Like, I... But that's like trying to disassociate all things that's crazy in Vegas with Vegas. Like, if you go to Vegas, Vegas, but if you were, the NBA has a whole summer league there. And what makes Vegas is the culture of Vegas. If you went to Miami, you're going to get strip club culture.

people have different industries that are just they famous for what they're famous for and what it is just like just because you don't like it doesn't mean that other people don't appreciate it and doesn't make it bad yeah that's what i'm saying so and also he grew up in lexington but no he was born in lexington but he grew up in lantern texas and this is when i go back to like understanding where people are from they're just going to have different views when they've never seen nothing that's just my opinion And it's fine. Oh, go ahead, Cam. No, go ahead.

I'm just going to say it a little quick. It's completely fine to have different views. Like, I think there's an understanding that if you view something a certain way, everybody has to think the same thing. But I'm like, this genuinely is not hard. Like, obviously if you bring out naked girls, then, okay, like, we cannot do that. But I'm like, that's not, at least I'm assuming that's not going to happen. And if it's literally just the.

food and like you want to hear some Atlanta music cool cute like I don't I don't even have an argument here I just don't see an issue with it at all but go ahead Kim hey listen like you said they're not going to be naked they're going to be clothed like but and no disrespect to any cheerleaders out there these bishops right way too more talented than the cheerleaders I hope they bring three big ass poles out there and these bids just start climbing the pole and show what the fuck they can do. I hope they put a pole under one basket, the other basket, and the half court, and they go to fuck

off. I hope they go to fuck off, because people don't know how talented some of these females are, man. Flexible flips, hold their stuff. That shit takes strength. You know, I grew up with a few strippers, I asked them, and then they got older. I said, you know what? I remember

when we was young, you was good on the monkey bars, man. I knew that strength, man. That strength matters, man. That shit Yeah, coarse. Yeah, corn strength is crazy, man. Hold yourself sideways like this in the air. That shit is muscles, man.

So shout to the chair leaders and all that, but these girls may be way more talented. This should go right. We may see more of this. Well, um, Cam's take is Cam's take. But we're all in alignment.

We just, we just, you know, say it in different ways. You know, you got to be. be getting on the monkey bars when you're younger, yo. I'm saying, that shit is strep, yo. You ever see? Because I used to be on the monkey bars, pause. You know, monkey balls wasn't paused when you was young.

You know what I'm saying? See something of them doing flips and all that? Like, fuck, you did all that stuff for them to be doing a backflip off the monkey bars at nine years old. Yeah. Okay. You ain't mad at it. You ain't mad at.

You ain't mad at. You ain't mad at. What's Simone Biles? You're not saying she's a dancer. That's a stiff. It's creativity. When she ran across the shit flipping around

holding herself up on on the parallel bars and all that. Man, y'all got ahead with that shit, man. Take your out back down the towel to text where the fuck you from? You bugging, nigger. Shit is art.

Okay. So I'm going to ask you all one more question just because, like, I've seen a lot of the comments from the other side and I want to get you guys opinion on it because it becomes more of a cultural conversation and topic. So there's two parts.

One, Marisie's, Do you think this makes, and I'm just going to ask the general question, do you think this makes the black community look bad? One, and then two, the other question is what about the children who are going to see a game? No, it doesn't make the black community look bad. It all comes down to what your standard is. I don't base my standard on culture based on white culture. If I understand something as part of black culture and I understand it and I like it,

I don't say this makes us look bad towards white people. And that's ultimately what they're saying. as if like somebody has like a moral authority over something. I don't really roll like that. If I like something that's cool, it just doesn't represent or speak for all black people. Like let me tell you to this. Everybody got a ratchet part to their race,

today's society and some degrading behavior, some degenerate behavior. And, you know, each culture has views on it. You know, that's the larger conversation. But I just don't care. You know, I just come from the thought, like I just don't care how other people may view it to think that inmate looks bad on me. So no, I don't think it's bad for that. And like I told you,

if these kids sit up in the stands and watch this, then we can sit here and talk about Bad Bunny and Bad Bunny having two men ground on each other. And was that offensive? Or you'll have somebody say something about sexuality and empowerment. So we can sit here and you could ring around the Rosie, but at the end of the day, it all amounts to nothing. And we'll probably not talk about this in 48 hours and we'll forget about him. But to me, it was just him trying to get attention. Like, you know, there's white strippers. It's all type of shippers.

What the fuck? That's all going to be only black strippers there? What are we talking? You know, what's man, white strippers? What are we talking about? Like, yo, it's strippers at every nationality. I bet you they have a few white shippers just for a point just like this. They're going to round up a couple.

Just for this. I don't know what, like I said, the reason this is dope because we don't know what to expect from this. It may just be lemon, pepper. wings. I don't know if the girls are coming. If not, like I said, I'm going with stat. They're not going to be naked. But at the end of the day, we're not going to make it a race thing because it's mad white strippers too. They may not all be a magic city, but it's, I bet you they got, it's like the token when we got a black person somewhere

and it's all white. The token black person, it's going to be a token in there. They're going to be a token in Magic City. That night going to be lit. After the game, you know, that man, I'm That shit is going to be wild. I'm mad, I ain't going to be there. That shit going to be crazy. No, I ain't turning this racial. I ain't doing no racial shit. No, it don't make us look bad.

Now, what you said about the kids, Mo made a great comeback from that. You got two men grinding on each other at the Super Bowl. What's bigger than the Super Bowl? They happen. They happen on each other. What about when we're watching these age commercials losing two men tongue kissing.

What are we talking about here? No, we're not doing that. That's what we're not going to do. We could go back and forth about what the kids are seeing all day. That's crazy. No. I'd be proud of my little nine-year-old. He's excited to see that.

Let me go on going on, going in the right direction. You guys are not. I can't say you guys. Can't have your daughter real person. You're not a real person. I ain't going in the right direction. Like, you're just not a real direction. You're not a real direction.

You're not a real fair. Yeah, that's a fact, no. What they need to track, though, is the viewership for that game. I am curious to see number. Like, I'm just, I just want to see what's going to happen. Okay. Let me tell you something real quick. Last thing I say about this is when you say track viewership, right?

Yesterday, I was sitting there saying, Oh shit, fuck, it's Tuesday. I missed it. How fuck I miss Magic City Monday? I'm like, damn, but then I looked so that I wanted to try and find some clips on social media. And I found out it's the 16th, so I was like, I didn't miss it. I was excited. I thought I was pissed off.

I was trying to find clips. I'm like, damn, there, there ain't no Magic City Monday clips. Because, you know, I thought I missed it, but I got two weeks. He said I got time. Okay, we'll come back with our notes. reaction because I mean, shoot, I'm going to be tuned in. It's a little, it could be anything at this point. Okay, but y'all, that is all the time that we have to for today.

In the comments down below, let us know what you guys think about it. We know that there's two differing opinions, but we want to know you guys is. Maurice, you know it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. Oh, hey, again, thanks you. Thanks for Cam and Nick for the palm trees. And I won't take your advice. We're going to start filming and start. I'm not going to know this, but I got some invite me for the show.

We're going to start filming at the hotel. So we're going to show the renovations. We're going to show the comedy that go on there. And you should, even if you put gopros in there, take everything, because whatever don't make it, they don't make it. Take that's in 24 hours. You know, we're going to put it out. We're going to definitely put it up. We won't let people see the journey.

But when I promise you, it's comedy is comedy. The journey. The journey. The journey. The journey. The journey. Yeah. No, no doubt.

So again, thank you all for the trees. Thank you, Statt, appreciate it. And the line of the day was to make my little man know he going in the right direction. Yeah, that signed off just like that. Okay. All you're enjoying today. Thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is.