IT IS WHAT IT IS - CAM'RON RESPONDS TO GELO BALL AND DID GIANNIS JUST LET THE BUCKS KNOW HE'S LEAVING SOON?! | S6 EP16

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

Ma$e, Cam'ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are here with another one!! On this episode, Cam'ron responds to the latest Gelo Ball interview where he says he's a colder rapper than Killa. Killa says he didn't know basketball players can get CTE & we wonder where should Kevin Durant go if he's traded from the Suns?! Then, Ma$e says Paul George gotta get it together if he want to be the GOAT & the crew forgot to wish Killa a Happy Birthday! Show love to Cam'ron for his birthday and leave a comment! Intro (0:00) Cam'ron Respond To Gelo (2:30) Kevin Durant To The Knicks?! (6:30) Paul George (17:45) Lakers Showing Who Run It (21:00) Happy Birthday Killa (40:00) Crawford vs. Canelo (45:00) Paul Brothers Boxing (51:00) Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is, this episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app. Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000

in bonus cash with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Treasurer Wilson, AKA STATbaby, along with your hosts, Mace and Cam. Killer was good, man. It was good, man. Happy to be back in the studio, man. What was good, man. It's good, man. Happy to be back in the studio, man. What's happening, man?

It's crazy out there, man. Yeah, it is. It's wild, it's wild. It's wild, man. It's wild out there. I definitely will say that. Nobody's safe. No, nobody.

You know that's our slogan on the ground. I like that, it rhymes. Yeah, nobody's safe. Shout out to Bob, that's our nigga. That's the hashtag for it is what it is, nobody's safe. Shout out to Bob, that's our nigga. That's the hashtag for it is what it is. Nobody's safe. People start thinking they safe, ain't nobody's safe. After that, nobody's safe.

Nobody's safe. I didn't heard all type of shit a couple days. KD to the Knicks, all type of crazy shit going on, man. I don't know, that's not a fact. I'm just, you know, clickbait type shit. And like I said, and I know I promoted him last week, but shout out to, you gotta check his page out, his allowance.

We gotta get Scooter a segment on our show because he has great captions with the picture. His caption was, kids, never forget you could get sold overnight too if you wanna keep drinking, licking, and eating bread. He ain't lying. He ain't lying. Oh gosh. Yeah, man. We all figured this out, Scoot. He want to do Street Center, man. Let's put his last thing together for you, baby.

That's lit. Yeah. Okay. So before we get started, Cam, I have to ask you. Jello Ball did another interview. He said that he raps colder than you. Yeah, yeah. Did you see that and what are your thoughts? Yeah, I see the catch. I never asked you about it, yeah.

The thing about it is that I told, I'm not doing Tito's no more, the Tito Jacksons. I'm just, I can't do it. But the comments, I I think personally handled that. The comments were kind of people were losing their mind. So, you know, they usually bashed me on the shade room. I finally seen a post where they had my back on the shade room. Yeah, they held you down.

Yeah, they weren't crazy. But what I will say, I've never seen like a basketball player slash rapper, whatever was CTE. Elaborate. player slash rapper whatever with CTE. There's no other way to explain his comments. I've never seen it before. I thought it was a boxing football thing but obviously rapper slash basketball players could get it too. You know what's crazy? We wanna talk about this interview. I don't wanna bring this to this show. I was gonna bring it to talk with Flee, but since we're bringing it up,

is when, is part of the interview he said, yeah, yeah, you know, I swear I'll be talking, niggas be talking about me. I guess he's referring to us. He's like, I knew I had this coming down the pipeline pause. And I'm like, for further on, okay, cool. We didn't know you rapped or rapped like that, whatever. Why do niggas keep pushing, moving the goalpost?

We said you're not a professional basketball player. I don't understand how niggas keep switching the goal. Yeah, cause I see niggas tagging me too. Yeah, Kim, yeah. Jello did, I never saw he couldn't rap. I didn. Yeah, Jello did I never said he couldn't rap I didn't even know he did rap we said he's not a professional basketball player and we could tell how quickly he switched his occupation that he Have him on on talk of flea

You're an athlete somewhere, right? You're an athlete somewhere, right? You take athletes up here since you're going around doing your interviews. Come on up, man, let's have a healthy discussion. That another thing he said, he said, yeah, I'm cold on them in basketball, rap, all that. I think because we so hip and we so in loopy and everything,

niggas be forgetting how old niggas is. Yo, bro, now look at me, man. Look, I know, let me just take a look at myself. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I dig it. I dig it. Just for those who know, because I look good, I'm in shape,

I'm flying, everything. I am older than Tim Duncan. I'm older than Kevin Garnett. This is how old I am. I just look good, man. I dig it. Fuck I look like running a full. Now if you want me to put some money up on some nigga

that I think could beat you, that didn't even go to college or anything else, I got a bunch of them niggas. You talk about killer. Get the one-on-one with Jello. Nigga, listen, first of all, I'm 48 years old. What the fuck do I look like playing nigga one-on-one? That's, I mean, I'm just saying, man.

I'm just saying. But I got some niggas though. But if you want, you're more than welcome to come up, Joe. I have a great conversation. No, nothing fly. I'm just saying. But people got to start with this. All we said was the man was not a professional basketball player. That's it.

I put up my picture with the Gauchos and all that. Niggas talking about, said they want to let that light skin nigga Nishajin right here. Niggas start going in on Wally Lynch and G Dota. Mello beat everybody in this picture. I don't know about that. No, Mello couldn't beat it. Not just you, yeah. Cause at the end, first of all, it's a different era.

Let's get that situated. Secondly, you're not gonna get the calls you got when you was playing basketball. That's why I said, errors be mattering. Cause you can hand check, you can't tell. You know, it's different rules, different times. But congratulations. Well, I think it'd be a great conversation.

Jello, you are an athlete, so we could have a good talk. Yeah, you're the queen of if he could get away with it. Then get away with it. Listen, don't just stop. We would love for you to come on the show. I see you doing your rounds and everything. Come on up. Yeah, let's do it. Okay. So we know the NBA trade deadline is February 6th and a lot has been happening. So first we're actually going to start with Kevin Durant. So the Suns are fielding trade calls for KD. It was reported they don't plan to move Durant before the deadline, but they are

listening to various teams pitches on the flip side. Kevin Durant is said to be aware of all this, so it wouldn't come out of the blue if anything were to happen. But Mace, do you think that the Sun should trade KD? And if he were to go, what do you think would be a good landing spot for him? I honestly think the Suns, how could I say this? That's a great place for Kevin Durant, but I don't think they're any different

than when it was Book's team, right? So these are both for like two players that I really, really admire on this team, Kevin Durant and Book, right? So I don't think with either. I think they could get the same amount of wins with one of them, no matter which one it was. So I don't really see the

the importance of having them both because they haven't figured out how to play together because both of them need the ball to score. You know, they're not players that play without the ball that do a lot of things need the ball to score, you know, they're not players that play without the ball That do a lot of things without the ball. So pauses till when you talk about trading Garnett you probably could get something really great for it And I think they they the real person they need to get out of there is Bradley bill He messed us up, you know, like I don't know. I like Bradley Bill as a person, but basketball wise, it just wasn't a great fit. And I think like another thing when it comes to the Suns,

yeah, they got to get they got to get two of them out of there. Two of them out of there. Got to be Bradley Bill and somebody else. Yeah. As far as the sons and Kevin Durant is concerned, I think their best opportunity was the year we went to the games the year before last, but we seen it didn't look like they will be able to get over the hump with Denver. I think when we went, Luca has 79. That's why I'm exaggerating, but some incredible number, pardon me.

And I don't think that the Karen Durant, Devin Booker thing has pant out because, and I don't know this, I'm just saying, I'm speculating, they didn't have that LeBron James D Wade talk, and it looks like Devin Booker sometimes defer to him, and Karen Durant defer to Devin Booker, and I can be Kevin Durant deferred to Devin Booker. Not gonna be totally wrong.

I'm just telling you from me watching the game from the outside in because that year we went when Kevin Durant first got there, it looked like, okay, they gonna be all right. And then maybe it's the Bradley Bill factor that made them not be all right and that's a great tape. But I'm not sure if they mesh Tony Moly Devin Book, and Kevin Durant well,

because we've seen that they couldn't beat Denver last year. Last year, I mean, the year before last. Last year, I believe they got swept by Minnesota. Yeah. So it's obviously not working. What I would say is this to, well, Rich Paul won, and whoever Bradley Bill agent is to, is this goes to show that no trade clause is important.

Those only two players in the NBA with the no trade clause for the even be considering trading Kevin Durant. That's how much this Lucas should shook shit up because now what's going to happen is general managers aren't going to be scared. They're not going to be like, I don't know man, you know everybody going to hate me if I do this or do that or do this. And winning solves everything so that's yet to be seen for Dallas or the Lakers. But I don't think that now general managers are going to be scared to move a big name. Is it going to happen? I'm not sure if it's going to happen. But the answer to

your question is that the two teams I would say Kevin Durant with fit on immediately is like we were talking before the show aired. I like, I think on the Knicks, I don't know who the Knicks would give up for him. But this puts them right there with Boston. If you get Kevin Durant on the Knicks and you keep Brunson, Carl Anthony Towns, OG, and you put Kevin Durant there? I don't know if Boston is better than them. Right now it's looking like Cleveland is better than everybody in the East, but we have to see when the playoffs start. I'm not putting Cleveland ahead of Boston at the personal, in my personal opinion, until the playoffs start. They may run away with it in a regular season. But I think Kevin Durant puts the Knicks at least at the top of the East. If they don't finish they'll be alright in the playoffs.

Another team that comes to mind is Golden State. I don't know how him and Draymond's relationship is these days but it's a team he's familiar with, organization he's familiar with, city he's familiar with, two of the core players that he won two championships are already there. So those are the two teams that come to mind. It definitely helped go to state in the West and it isn't like trying to fit in. They already know how to play together.

And if it was the East Coast, I would go with the Knicks. What about Jimmy Butler, Miami? Well, the thing about Jimmy Butler is the word that I've been hearing is that the way he's handling the situation in Miami, nobody wants to be bothered. Because they know that playoff Jimmy Butler's a real thing. Like, that's a real thing.

When the playoffs come, Jimmy Butler, it's a real thing. But the way he's handling this situation, a lot of people, it's turned them off. Like Golden State was interested, but Steve Currie and stuff more, and Paul Nessa more and stuff, Currie is like, we don't need that energy in this locker room. They probably like, yo,

we already got one that could go crazy. Yeah. Yeah. We don't. Imagine the fight right now. You gotta do it with them niggas. Yeah. Can't hold both of them. Yeah. So, so basically, that was being talked about.

Him trying to get to go in the state, but Steve Kerr and Stuff Curry was like, not saying they said no, but they're worried about his off the court and locker room activity. Jimmy Butler, everybody knows the playoffs is coming up and what he can do in the playoffs. So for him not to already been traded by now, that just goes to show some teams are like, you know, no, I don't know. I actually seen Kevin Durant and Paul Pierce talking about this situation.

They were mad. They were upset with Jimmy Butler. Two former All-Stars, Hall of Famers, because they're saying that the way Jimmy Butler, two former All Stars, Hall of Famers, because they're saying that the way Jimmy Butler is handling this, he's going to fuck up, and this was their words, not mine. He's going to fuck up guaranteed money for players in the future. Not coming to practice, taking your own flight to the game, walking out of practice, continuous suspensions. Taking his own flight to the game.

Yeah, he didn't get on the plane. Yeah, he didn't get on the plane with the team. So, you know, Kevin Garnett was very passionate about it. Paul Pierce, you know, Paul Pierce, a little mellow. But he's like, yeah, we came to work, whether we like what was going on or not. We showed up and did our job as professionals and we went home. If we didn't like what was going on or not. We showed up and did our job as professionals and we went home. If we didn't like what was going on in the organization, we didn't handle things like this.

And what's going to happen is from their perspective is guaranteed money is not going to be guaranteed money for NBA players moving forward because of the way Jimmy Butler and people like Jimmy Butler handle this situation, according to Kevin Durant and Paul Pierce. You know they say when people show you who they are, believe it. Believe it. like Jimmy Butler handling the situation, according to Kevin Durant and Paul Pierce. You know they say when people show you who they are, believe it, believe it. The first time. Facts.

And this is not his first time. Right. Also, just regarding the Jimmy Butler situation, so he actually told the Warriors also that he was unwilling to sign an extension there, and so that basically ended their trade talks, in addition to what Cam reported. Oh yeah, he got a lot going on.

I don't know how it's going to work out for him. And honestly, that's a great question as where do you guys even see him landing? Cause now Dallas got AD Max Christie, you know, the Warriors are ended trade talks. What do you even think would be a see? Pat Riley understands he'll end up there. He'll end up right there because when it's all said and done, Pat Riley will love to be able to tell you nobody wants you.

Nobody wants you with your antics and the things that you're doing. And I'm not saying I'm saying this, but Pat will definitely is sitting back like, yeah, let him let him finish doing that, because after that, he's definitely going to just drop the contract and get them out of there. And it'll be one of those things where we've seen this a few times where players could have played well beyond those years and even been coaches when it's all said and done, but they remember these type of things when it's time to move on.

That's a great point Mase because at the end end of the year he has a $52 million option at the end of the year that he can pick up. But you're right, Pat Wright type of nigga say, buy that nigga out and let him figure it out. But that still gives him his money. And so you could get a like, Russell Westbrook type deal where you might play for league. Not league. Veterans maximum.

Veterans maximum. So, he fuck around and now, now that's a different scenario. Now, if you getting Jimmy Butler for two million, three million, you might, you might wanna put up with it. You get what I'm saying? So, I know one thing that the deadline is two days away. Well, Thursday at 3 p.m. Eastern is over. We should see a lot more activity

in the next couple days and see what happens. But Jimmy Butler is gonna be on Miami if this doesn't happen by Thursday for the rest of the year. And then what do you do? Because it's his option to pick up the $52 million option. So you're right, Mase. Pat Riley be like, you might just go and stay here. Cause.

Would you trade them for Kawhi? That's a good one. Yeah, that's a great one. They're both heard a lot. Kawhi to me, and I'm a super duper Kawhi fan, but, and I don't mean this in a malicious way, I just, he's too unreliable. It's that same, that's what I was saying,

it's the same unreliable for unreliable. Right, but Jimmy Butler's hurt a lot, but not as much as Kawhi. Not as much as Kawhi. Jimmy's also choosing to be unreliable. That's the problem with that, cause it's like, yes, he gets hurt, but he is able to even play right now.

But he's throwing a hissy fit and none of us like it cause we want to see you play. And that's right, he's choosing to be. Yeah, gotta give some respect to Kawhi. Kawhi is going through things. Okay, so it was reported the Warriors are calling about every All-Star player ahead of the deadline. Three players named specifically were LeBron James, Kevin Durant and Paul George.

Mace, who do you think that they should get and then who do you think is the most realistic option for them to get? How about let's say who they shouldn't get. They should not get Paul George. They should not. And I was I know I was quoted on him being a goat and all of that. That was funny. It's not get Paul George. They should not. And I was, I know I was quoted on him being a goat and all of that, that it was funny. It's not funny no more. No. It's not funny no more.

You know. And damn, Paul George is my guy, but it's not funny no more. And niggas gotta choose. Niggas gotta choose if they gonna be players or podcasters. That's what they told me, man. You gotta choose niggas gotta choose if they're gonna be players or podcasters. That's what they told me man You gotta choose so I'm just reminding people what they told me you gotta choose, bro like they paying you too much money to not be out there balling crazy and trying to work on your

Beat what they call it your plan B your plan a already working Why you working on your plan B and you talking about who else? LeBron? Yeah, LeBron, Paul, George and Katie. Yeah, LeBron is definitely out of there. LeBron is definitely out of the Lakers. I'm telling you. If it's not this year, he's out of there.

So they know something. But LeBron would, I would like to see LeBron with the Golden State. That would be really cool. That would be really cool. I don't think LeBron would be mad at that. If he woke up and heard tomorrow he was traded to Golden State, he wouldn't be mad. Playing with Steph. That would be crazy.

What exactly is the question to answer correctly? Yeah, so basically the three players named specifically by the Warriors that the Warriors have interest in is LeBron James, KD, and Paul George. So who do you think that they should get one? And then who do you think is the most realistic option? Realistic? Realistic is about, I would say LeBron or KD. Cause the thing about it, first and foremost,

LeBron has a no trade clause, so he's not going anywhere he doesn't wanna go. So if he ends up in Golden State, it's by his choice. As far as Kevin Durant, like I said, I just said that last take, last segment is that he, he, he's familiar. He's familiar with the situation. Paul George, nobody wants to pick up that big ass contract

he just signed with Philadelphia. He just signed a wild contract. I don't know what the exact price is right now, but that's why if I'm Philadelphia, I'm pissed off, not just with him, with Joe LMB too. Everybody got chicken over there. All three of them niggas, Tyrese Maxey, Paul George, and Joe LMB.

And Tyrese Maxey is out there like a madman doing everything by himself. And salute to Tyrese Maxey because you got your name back, nigga. You looking good, bro. You doing everything by yourself, man. And I've been watching the last few Philly games. I want to salute you and handle this like a champ

because Paul George and Joel Embiid, all they doing is at a time out, and you were on the bench giving you all this when you walk into the bench. Yeah, yeah. You're impersonating me. Yeah. best yeah yeah that's all they doing like yo my nigga that man is out there on a one man mission no help i didn't even know that the sixes had all these niggas eric fucking gordon and rudgy jackson

i knew i knew um kelly ubray was there but i just saying, he's out there literally doing everything. So salute to Tavis Maxey, but realistically for the Golden State Warriors, it would be LeBron James or Kevin Durant. They're not picking up Paul George's contract, and especially not a reliable Paul George. Okay, so obviously Mavs fans are still very upset about this L Luca trade.

So they have since been protesting outside the American Airlines Center stadium, and they've even chanted, sell the team. So, new information also shows that Luca had actually just bought a $15 million house out there in Dallas. So that confirms, of course, it was a shock to all parties involved. So my question to you, Mase, have you been able to process this trade yet? And then what do you think about the Mavs fans protesting all of this? I think the Mavs fans should be irate.

They should be livid. You know, I don't remember a worse trade than this ever in basketball history. It's never been a time where somebody traded their best player for an injured player. I don't care what you think of the player. That is never, it's never been done. I'm gonna go on a record. Like I know we was talking earlier

and talking about how Luke I has been first team five seasons, you know, pretty much in a row, five seasons in an early NBA career. We're talking about a guy only 25. And when you think about that, Stephen Curry has not done that. And you can go down a list of great players, Katie, you know, different just different players that have not done that in the in the early state of their career.

And when you got somebody balling like that, they say he's out of shape. But Luke has never been chiseled. Luke, I've never been lean to the fact this is how he's always played. Even when people talk about him drinking, he's from a country where they drink after every game. So this is none of this is new. It sounds like to me is only two reasons why people leave. I mean, people fall out is money or women and the money doesn't even make sense.

So I think people should be livid when it comes to this and they're going to pay for it. They actually are going to pay for it because it's going to be hard for even Anthony Davis to play well at a place he probably don't want to stay. Now, the only way this makes sense and the only way Mavs fan should be happy is if they pulled the major chess move of the century. And I mean, make it look like they did some weird trade to get Anthony Davis over there.

And LeBron end up with Kyrie, Anthony Davis, and all of them at Dallas. That's the only way it could make sense. I like that take. I think that's kind of great. Cause LeBron is only one year contracts with options on it. So LeBron could go with a fucking one in a minute. Excuse me.

He wanted to play with Kyrie in the beginning. Yeah, I mean, actually, they were trying to, the Lakers, you know, won't give any names. They were trying to get Kyrie Irvin when his value was low in Brooklyn. And the Lakers didn't want to touch it because nobody knew what was going to happen with Kyrie when he made the tweet, when he got suspended by Brooklyn and looked like he was racist, then he said he wasn't racist. And Dallas took a chance on him and got him when his market value wasn't that high. I think this though, personally, I think being that Luka is such a global phenomenon.

He has been first team all NBA for the last five years. He's only 25 years old. So that means he's been all team, all NBA since he was 20 years old. That people are underestimating how this looks for Dallas. I think this may be all right for Dallas. The scoring differential between Anthony Davis and Luca is three points, four points or something like that. Anthony Davis is having 25. I believe Luca is averaging 29, 30 before he got hurt. He's missed 20 something games this season. Dallas was at the championship last year and majority that a lot to Luca.

But like I said, to me personally, I never seen the togetherness of Kyrie Irvin and Luca. I always seen, your turn, your turn, your turn. It wasn't like when Luka got a Kyrie, you go run off a screen, a double screen, and come get it. It was more of a, nigga, we both nice, do your thing, and we'll figure it out.

Not saying that the other players didn't contribute. But I think to me personally, me personally, this puts Dallas top four, at least top five, me personally at this particular moment, we don't know what trades are gonna happen. But if you think Luca got a chip, you think Anthony Davis don't got a chip? You don't think he's gonna be mad?

Anthony Davis played 76 games last year. He didn't miss a lot of games this year. He's averaging a double-double. He's playing really, really fucking good this year. And you got Kyrie Irvin. You got Jason Kidd at the coaching. PJ Washington is no scrub. Lively and Gaffer really showed theyself last year.

Their front court's gonna be amazing. So I think this is a very underestimated trade for Dallas because everybody's so Luca crazy. Um, the Anthony Davis is going to have a chip on his shoulder. And now he could play the natural four position that he wanted to play. I have two centers, uh, as a backup. Also my personal opinion. Um, as far as the protestors, yeah, they have to write the protest.

Uh, you're 25 years old, uh, NBA all team, not just NBA All Team, a global phenomenon. I've been playing pro since he was 16 years old, 15 or 16. Yeah, they have a right to protest. But it's a lot of layers to this trade because what this also shows is that with LeBron not knowing what was going on, Rich Paul not knowing this was going to happen being a he's 80s agent, LeBron's agent, what I think also happened with this is that the Lakers said we need to let people know that Clutch Sports isn't running the Lakers because that's what people think. They think whatever Rich Paul and LeBron

says goes so they didn't tell these people this was going to happen because imagine whatever Rich Paul in LeBron says goes, so they didn't tell these people this was gonna happen, because imagine letting Rich Paul know a week or two that this trade is gonna happen. Rich Paul would have pulled out every stop in the book to compensate the trade for anything they make him comfortable some type of way or try to stop it. I don't know what Rich Paul would have did. This is all speculation, But this is two things.

For the Lakers to let the world know they know. Clutch Sports does not run this. We make the decisions here. And it's a message to LeBron as well if you ask me also because it goes to show, look we did everything. Your son, you're paying you what you want. Your son's on the team. I know this your man, but listen, we don't know when you leaving. You could leave next year. Even though we know LeBron's not leaving next year.

We need to build for the future for the next 10 years. And this is big. I actually heard the Greek freak talking and he was excited. And I don't know what this says for Milwaukee murder. When the Greek freak says, and I've seen the interview, he says, yo, I'm happy Luca is in LA. I wanna see all the European players in Major Marcus.

He said, I wanna see the Joker in New York. I'm happy Lucas in LA. All the European players should be in big Marcus. And I'm looking at that like, wow, does that mean you? He on the move. Yeah. He let you know his answer.

Yeah. So when I heard that statement from Giannis, I don't know how many years are left on this contract. I think he signed an extension last year, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know off the top of my head. But this sounds like if they don't win enough a championship, he's going to a main market for those. And this isn't a statement I read. This is an interview that I've seen with him actually saying that. He was happy that the European players, he said they all need to be in major markets, but protesters got a right to protest.

This goes back to the relationship with Nico Harrison and Rob Pelinka. When Rob Pelinka and Kobe Bryant was at Nike, Nico Harrison was the representative for Nike, Angel, and Brand. He lived in Dallas, so he also built a relationship with Michael Finley, who's also at the Dallas Marrikes right now.

So this is some good old boy shit from back in the days. And they're all showing that relationships matter. And when you have these type of relationships, you can make these calls without them getting out to the media, to other players, to agents, et cetera. So that's what I have to say about that. It definitely looked like they just took back control. That's all it looks like.

You know, like before you had to talk to this player before you make a move. We're not doing none of that. Yeah. Remember, I bought this team. Yeah. And then to fill in the gap. So Yannis' contract extensions is through the 2027 to 2028 season. And then a specific quote that he said is he wants Luka to the Lakers. He wants Jokic to the Knicks. He wants all the Europeans to go to all the big markets.

And so where does he want to go? I think I just said that. Yeah. Thanks for confirming. No, I was just giving the direct quote, but yeah, say. No, no, I get it. I'm just talking with you. What team you think he would try to go to if he want to see, if he

want to see them in New York? Major market like Miami. Yeah. You would say that. I set you up for that. That's called chess right there. Well, I'm just like, when I think major market, that's what I think Miami, but I also don't know.

I don't know. Anything can happen this weekend. We've been saying that, so I'm not even gonna put anything out there. Not even just cause I'm a Heat fan. I'm just saying, you think major market? Yes. Yeah. What's realistic to me is that Boston, if they keep all their players intact,

because they've been around a long time and they just winning their first championship, and it seemed like, when are they going to get it done? When are they going to get done? Talk about Boston they going to get it done? Talk about Boston. Jason Tatum is 25, 26, 27 years old. Brown is 26 years old. They just re-signed Derrick White. Drew Holliday's 34, still playing phenomenal. I think if he went there,

and I'm not saying there's nothing wrong, but I think it would be a juggernaut, kind of like when KD went to Golden State, it was a kind of a foregone conclusion. What I would say is the Knicks, is it Knicks? Miami? I don't know. I knew Stat wouldn't even throw another team in it.

That's why I was mad. I was waiting for them. Oh, two, three more teams in it. They were like, me to listen and then I got quiet. Stop that. Shoot off. Stop that, Miami. I was like, whoo.

Luke, now let's think about this. If his contract isn't up to 2027, we're in 2025. That means he out this season and next season. Luca and Giannis. We know LeBron. LA. Yeah, Lucas. That actually be dangerous.

They wouldn't miss LeBron. Luca and Giannis would be dangerous, bro. And listen, they're both young enough to go. So we have a situation where sit around and be patient and let's see what happens. But for Yannis to make that statement, to me that's on the record saying, we have to win or I'm leaving.

Don't say I didn't say this. Oh, crazy. Okay, and then real quick, so regarding the Lakers, so they're projected starting five would be Luca, Austin Reeves, Ru Hachimora, LeBron James and Jackson Hayes. With this starting lineup, do you feel like that's enough for them to start winning more games or you feel like there's still something missing? No, I mean, it's good enough to start playing a little better. I don't think this is pushed them that much further.

I think the next the next piece that they get will do that, though. I mean, when you start because once you people see you reconstructing, other people start getting a grand idea, just like we're talking right now about. Yonis, there's somebody else that we're probably not thinking about this thing. And hey, I could be the piece pause that's missing from this team to make this a championship contender because they're one piece away because in the playoffs is about getting a bucket. And this will be a team that won't be short of a bucket.

We know Bron can get a bucket. We know Luca could get a bucket. And I know we was talking about this earlier. Killer, you stated this about Dwight. They need one of those type of wild big men that could get, you know, rebounds and two blocks, maybe a steal. And this becomes a dangerous L.A. team, a real dangerous team. Yeah, I know Dwight's probably like 37, 38, but he's in great shape. I know Dwight's probably like 37, 38, but he's in great shape. If nothing else makes, Dwight Howard's gonna get you two block shots,

12 to 13 rebounds, and six hard fouls. If you don't get nothing else, you'll get that. And for them not to give him a chance in the NBA, I don't know what the fuck Dwight did to piss the whole league off, and maybe they just attributed it to age, but if anybody at his age is in shape It's him, you know, I'm saying so um, I don't know what happened I and Dwight I know we used to last season last year

I should say we was fucking with you, but it was as far as basketball skills We have nothing to say about your basketball skills I believe that Dwight Howard the reason that they won the championship that year, that they won the championship. So, me and like Murda said, we was talking about this off-chance, Conrad, give them a 10-day. Don't they get 10-day joints? See how it work out.

Because at the end of the day, when the Lakers, before Anthony Davis got traded, he was like, we need a big man. And so I could play natural four. Dwight Howard got on this ground, he like, hello. Hello, I'm here. So obviously Dwight still wants to play. I'm pretty sure he keeps his self in shape. But look, Lakers, let's take a look at this, man.

Cleveland Brown went and got Joe Flacco off the couch, man. That nigga been playing sensational for a nigga who was on they couch. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of people. Kurt Warner was in the supermarket packing bags. They went and grabbed him. I mean, Kurt Warner was a little younger,

but shit, Joe Flacco ain't no spring chicken even. I think that these are two different sports. But I think the way I was 100 times more shaped than Joe Flacco or whoever. Who? Yeah, John Starks out the supermarket. You know what I'm saying? Exactly, Bezo just made a great point.

Go get the nigga a shot. If you don't fit it, don't fit pause. But at the same time, I don't know anybody else you shouldn't give an opportunity to, because you know he wants it. Pause. So. Yeah, I definitely agree with that statement. And then this is no diss to any of the players on the Lakers, but I think that the Lakers could look for a replacement for Jackson Hayes. I think they could have a different center. And not to cut you off stack. That was actually the question. I'm sorry for not answering.

No, this isn't gonna cut it. This is not gonna cut it. Because, all right, let's put this in the perspective, right? You see what the Joker was doing to A.D. What is he gonna do to Jackson Hayes? I'm thinking. What is the Joker gonna do to Jack? And I don't know you like that

Jackson Hayes because Joker does the best of the best dirty and filthy paws. He might come out and laugh at you man. He might go talk to niggas. It was like a time like Mayor Me and Murder was talking about like Labby Burr used to be like, yo, why you got white niggas guarding me? He might just feel disrespect. Yeah, well you got curly ha white niggas guarding me? He might just feel disrespectful. Yeah, well you got curly haired niggas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're being disrespectful.

You're being wild disrespectful, man. So, and I'm just giving you the top of the list. You know, Jad Jackson is playing amazing in Memphis. You know, I was hard on them the other day because I was saying that when Jad Moran isn't playing for the season, it seems like Baines, Jackson, they are not the snuff. And then you got Edie, so if they want to put Edie in and move Jackson to the fore, this is a problem down low. Pause. And what if they say, Wimby, get off the wing and get on the box? It's a problem. Y'all need to fix this problem quickly, immediately. Great points. Okay, we are going to go to break. When we return, we will discuss Canelo versus Terrence Crawford. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back.

Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. Tonight, Dallas will play the Sixers. Underdog has PJ Washington at 15 and a half points. You have him higher, lower Mace. I'm going lower, pause. I normally would go higher, but it's a new team. You know, they're going to be trying to figure stuff out. He might not have that.

Who is it? Maz versus Sixers. AD player? Oh, well, they don't have him listed. This is what I'm talking about. NBA is a f— You got Joel MB and AD and we don't know who the fuck is playing. What's going on? Yo, Murda, did you see the other night?

I forget who the fuck it was. He was doing an interview and they took his shit in the background. I said that shit to you. You seen it? The Lakers took his nameplate in the background while he's doing an interview and they took his shit in the background. I said that shit to you. Seen the Lakers took his name plate in the background while he doing an interview because he got traded mid interview. Christie. Yeah, it was Christie. Yeah, I think it did it all. Yo, you just see a hand take a nigga name in the middle.

Yo, nigga said we not niggas no murder. Nigga say, yo, we taking this shit back from the players. Yo, you see what they say? Niggas say we not, niggas no murder. Niggas say, yo, we taking this shit back from the players. Yo, yo, that was crazy. They took that man nameplate in the middle of an interview. You seen that shit, B? Yeah, so did the B. Oh yeah, Instagram is on, my son show. They took the man.

Niggas say, yo, niggas is forgetting who own the team and who just playing. Jerry Buzz is looking down. Who got what, Sted? I'm just thinking about the two niggas. Forgetting about the two niggas who ain't playing. Yeah, no, all good. So yeah, PJ Washington's at 15 and a half points. And then to answer your question, AD and Max Christie are listed as questionable, but AD still has an abdominal injury.

So he probably isn't playing. PJ should get higher, but I'm going to go higher. Okay. Kyrie is at 35 and a half points, rebounds and assists. Do you have him higher or lower? Higher. Higher. Okay.

And Embiid is at 23 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower? Mace? If he's playing, see, this that trick question right here. Yeah. Is he playing stat? What do you think? Right now he's supposed to be.

If I were him, I would play this week with everybody who's getting shifted around. Not saying that he will, but I would play. I would trade him, B. I would do. I'd take it. No, let me stop. I'm reliable.

I'm going higher. I'm reliable. I'm going lower because he's not going to play. I'm knowing what he's not playing. I'm going to go with that. lower, because he's not going to play. I'm going with what he's not playing. I'm going to go with that. Oh yeah, if he ain't playing, yeah, lower. It's hard? Yeah, and my first one, pause lower,

because he's not going to play. Okay, if you guys like these picks, remember you always get a free pick if you're not already an underdog, so make sure to support the show. Sign up now and you can make your picks too. So Canelo and Terrence Crawford are in the process of finalizing a deal for September 13th

for a Super Middleweight Championship fight in Las Vegas Mace. What are your thoughts on this? Hold on, hold on real quick, man. We've been filming 40 minutes, man. About 35, 40 minutes. I gave y'all a opportunity. I thought it was some, somebody got some strippers for me

and said, this is my birthday today. Nobody has nothing for me. This is kinda wild, man. I thought something was gonna happen at the midway point after the break. Thought balloons was gonna fly down and stuff. Thought the hoes was gonna walk in here. This is actually crazy.

That this is my brother, and this is how they treat me on my birthday. I didn't even get a happy birthday, but go ahead. It's fine. Go ahead. No gifts. No nothing. Niggas don't got me nothing. You know. It's crazy.

I can't say anything. Everybody just has to wait. That's all I can say. They told me I'd be birthday. Thank you, man. I appreciate y'all niggas, man. I know it's my birthday. Good looking, man. You don't have a gift? It's crazy, man.

I cannot say anything today. This is wild, man. You guys can just wait and see. It was supposed to be a surprise, Kayla. No, no, no. I ain't running with that. I ain't jacking. OK.

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Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. me 20 bands last year. Yeah, you ain't get no nothing, sir. Crazy, man. I can't say anything. I plead the fifth. That didn't get you anything. That's, okay. Yeah, well, go ahead.

I just crawled for them niggas right there. Like, you can't say. It's foul, man. Glad the audience got to see this. I waited 40 minutes to see. I said, nah, son, I gotta go on after the break. Midget, you're fishing to a cartwheel, son. I don't know if that's politically correct.

Smaller person, I don't know what's the word these days. They know what's up. That's all I have to say. I can't say anything. That's just bad. I literally can't, no, I literally can't say anything. You guys just have to wait. That's all.

Terrence Crawford, right? Just a shit. You guys just have to wait. That's all But like I like surprises See it right this second, but it's fine. That's fine. We can move on. Not fine. It's actually not fine. We can actually move on, man. My nigga Nick! Yeah, Nicky! Yeah!

Oh, Nicky. I knew it, my nigga Nicky. Thank you, Nicky. Yeah, Nicky. Another bonus, man. The only nigga on the team. Oh, no, no, let the crowd see. That's not true.

White boys taking care of the tickets. That's not true. White boy. My nigga Nick, man. Oh my gosh. My nigga Nick, man. You did horrible. Thank you, Nick.

No, you guys, I literally cannot say anything. Like, that's it. That's gotta fuck up, though. My gift ain't here. Oh, Russell, you know. That's what I'm saying. What do you get, man? You know. I'm a Bret the Hitman fan. This is fire.

This is dope. Thank you. Thank you. The Heart Foundation and all that. Good looking. My gift is over on the other side of town with the black windows. Thank you, Nick.

I think that's the best gift. And also, Nick already knew this isn't pink, it's mauve. I don't wear pink. I wear mauve from now on. Thank you, Nick. I appreciate that. Terrence Crawford. Terrence Crawford.

You go about Terrence Crawford. How do you feel about Terrence Crawford. Terrence Crawford. You go about Terrence Crawford. How do you feel about the fight? I don't know about him. You're trying to buy me a gift for a life. No, look at my joints. I can't even, you know. Look, I made it awkward. Let me go, man.

I feel awkward. Those niggas ain't had enough for me, but I'll go first. No, it's- First of all, it was a great fight this weekend. It just passed by. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm me go man. I feel awkward that niggas they had enough for me, but I'll go first First of all, it was a great fight this weekend. It just passed man, and it got overshadowed by These trades

The Benavides morale fight was really really good. That was a great fight Morale like me and Mase talked about it off camera, this was one of those situations we believe Benavides say, all right, you in a fight now? Kind of like when Floyd took Canelo early. Not saying Canelo wasn't begging for the fight, but Floyd really, I think a lot of people forget about that fight, the way Floyd gave that nigga a nice, old-fashioned ass-whipping politely for 12 rounds.

And I think this is the same scenario. Morale may have needed four or five more fights to maybe more than that, to compete with Benavides. But the opportunities there, you take it as a pay-per-view event, you only had 11 fights to knockouts. And I thought he put on a great performance for a person who only had 11 professional fights, had a great amateur background so on and so forth so salute to both

of them for me. Shout out to Benevitas for winning the fight. Terrence Crawford and Canelo. This is a really really really really interesting fight because what you would say is this, is that Terrence Crawford is coming up two, three weight classes, something like that. And this is an advantage for Canelo. And Canelo has a lot of experience, especially at this weight classes. You know, this is two, what's it called, pound for pound,

top fighters, whoever you want to pick. It could be Canelo, it could be Tunge Crawford, but it's arguably the top pound for pound fighter going against each other and probably whoever wins just to get that. I would say Canelo, but Bud, when you go against him, it seems like it's crazy. This fight is in September, it's in January. It's, pardon me, fight is in September, we're in January. Pardon me, February, pardon me, black history, my birth day and shit, pardon me. That nobody remembered. That he has time to bulk up

and time to get bulkier. Pause that. But build his weight up and get strong. and time to get bulkier, pause that, but build his weight up and get strong. This is literally probably what, six, seven months? It looks good. But the one key that I am gonna say, whether in Terrence Crawford is nice, I think y'all saw him get his weight up

and we'll see whose skills are better. But what Terrence Crawford has, and I don't know how often it's gonna happen, is Floyd Mayweather popping up the camp. When you got Floyd Mayweather popping up the camp, this is all favors for Terrence Crawford. I've never seen a boxer mind like Floyd Mayweather in my life.

I'm talking about when he fought Canelo, he made Canelo be a 154 and drain him, pause. He sits there and tells Tank, yo, when you fight Ryan, don't let him rehydrate himself the next day. Make sure he stays at the same weight he was at at the weigh-in. When Ryan fights Haney,

he tells him, fuck the 100, 200,000, million, whatever it is you're gonna lose, come in three pounds overweight and watch what happen. He isn't just skilled in the ring. He knows all the tricks and trades outside of the ring to make this an advantage for Terrence Crawford. Is Canelo the same fighter that Floyd fought however long ago?

Absolutely not. But Floyd's boxing mind is unmatched when it comes to anybody being smarter and the smartest fighter I've ever seen in my career, in my life. I told people, is Michael Jordan and is Floyd Mayweather? Those are two people I don't go against

until further notice. Floyd Mayweather fights tomorrow night. I'm going with Floyd Mayweather. Those are two people I don't go against until further notice. Floyd Mayweather fights tomorrow night. I'm going with Floyd Mayweather. I don't care if he fights Mr. Miyagi or if he fights Tank. And no disrespect, because you know Tank, I'm just giving examples. I just don't go against people who haven't lost until they lost, especially as long as he's been winning. So I think the advantage, if you have Terrence Crawford, with Floyd Mayweather once in a while coming in,

not saying Terrence Crawford couldn't do it on his own, but I would definitely help love Floyd in my camp, me personally. Yeah, I think when it comes to Terrence Crawford, he normally sees something in fighters that other people cannot see. You know, like when it came time, he was calling for the fight against Aerosmiths for a very long time. A lot of people thought he was out of his mind. He saw that Stiles, like most people know, Stiles made fights. And when it comes to even Canelo, I think he's looking at this the same way.

That it's not that Canelo is not great. It's not that he's not, you know, one of the pound for pound best fighters. He just knows that it's a certain thing that Canelo does that is tailor made for Terrence Crawford. If he's able to get that counter shot is a counter shot that's there all the time. And I think all boxers or people that really know boxing, they look for it. Like every time he make a movement, he moves in a way that fits. Pause what Terrence Crawford would like to do.

So I think, you know, if he if he get knocked out to some people, that wouldn't be surprising. But if he also went, it wouldn't be surprising because it's going to be one or the other. It's not going is not is not going in both of their favor. It won't be like a good fight. Somebody will be dominated. That's what I truly believe. And I'm hoping that is Terrence Crawford that get the victory.

OK. And then another fight. So Jake Paul versus Logan Paul. They announce an upcoming fight It will happen on HBO Max. There's not a set date or anything yet after hearing that Mase What are your thoughts on this matchup and who do you think out of the brothers would win? I Don't have much to say about Jake Paul versus Logan Paul, but if I had to if I had to bet And I don't bet, but if I did, I would probably go with, who just fought Mike Tyson? Jake Paul.

Jake Paul, I'm going with Jake Paul. He just seemed like he have a little bit more grit than his brother. Pardon me. HBO Max, see when Netflix did, they want some of that bread or some of them viewership or some of them downloads or subscribers, et cetera. This fight, I'm not interested. I'm not watching it.

Jake Paul's my man. Salute to Jake. And I like what his promotion company's doing. And if they could grab a bag from HBO to get it, cool. But to me, HBO see what Netflix did. It's like, let us get some of that. I mean, I'm not, they're not even the same weight class. Logan is mad bigger than Jake Pauls.

So to me, it's a money play. And then how bad do you really wanna hurt your brother that you be with, that you love? It ain't like they are strange brothers. They be with each other. So you think you just brought a man for the bag, it's an MVP-less. Absolutely, not even know if there's a budget.

They don't even argue. You know what I'm saying? They- You snatched Floyd's hat for his brother. Yeah, exactly. Them niggas don't even argue. You ain't see when they was in the ring after the fight and Logan was there sitting next to Mike and Mike said, who are you going to fight next?

And he said, maybe I'll fight Logan. He's like, Mike, I'll kill you. That's what Logan Paul told Mike. His brother is his man. So I can't even take this fight serious. People are going to tune in, though. So we'll see what ends up happening with that. That Logan Paul is is bigger, but I would say Jake Paul,

he's on a run right now. And I think there'll be a little friendly competition, but like y'all both said, they're not actually gonna go and hurt each other. It doesn't make sense, but there might be a little twist. You never know. Nigger knock him out.

He gonna jump on over and be like, oh my God. Like it wouldn't even be a chance to count the fucking 10 count. Cause he gonna be concerned. He loved it nigga. Okay. And then lastly, Glarece Shields makes boxing history as the first ever female undisputed heavyweight champion after beating Danielle Perkins.

She's also the first boxer male or female to become the undisputed champion in three different weight classes in the four belt era. Mase, what do you think of her accomplishment? belt era, Mase, what do you think of her accomplishment? This is interesting because she's she's breaking a lot of records and it seemed like she's doing it fast. Um, and I, I just, you know, hats off to her. That's all I could say. I didn't watch much of the fight.

I watched the highlights. So, um, it looked like the girl that she beat was definitely somebody that should have had the potential to beat her. And that's what I look for when you see people compete in how much is this, like, is there risk here? And there was a lot of risk there. So shout out to Clarissa. Yeah, I didn't see the fight.

I think, and shout out to Clarissa too. Congratulations, three time undisputed championship champion in three different weight classes. Nothing to sneeze at whatsoever. Congratulations. My biggest takeaway from the fight was thinking about Papoose coming out rapping, bringing her to the stage, and Remy Ma and the rapper dude that she fuck with. And I'm like, yo, I thought about this more than a damn fight. I seen Pat Poos before the fight.

Because you know, Pat Poos is one of them people to me, and me and Pat Poos are cool. We don't know and speak to each other all the time, but when we see each other, there's much love. When he was bending down, tying her timberlands, to show her how to get her timberlands right, I see, see, Pap is black love. You know, Pap is the black love type.

That man sat there and said, let me lay your timberlands right. You know what I'm saying? So I was more intrigued, like, damn, how long is this gonna play out with the rap Remy Ma and the rapper, Easy to Block Captain, that's the name part of me, and Papoose and Clarissa.

I was like, yo, Pap, did you see him bring her to the stage? Pap came out, he brought her to the stage, then went off at the end right before he got in the ring, he said, and what nigga do you think? I said, oh, he put a, it was crazy. That was a great intro. So I didn't think that Clarissa would lose. I didn't know the other opponent that well,

but I'm more intrigued about what's going on with that shit. What's going to be next? Because now Pap is public with Clarissa at the fights and Remy is promoting easy to block captain battles. Time will tell.. Time will tell. Only time will tell. Well, that's all the time that we have for today. Cam, happy birthday.

Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Too late now. It's not too late. Y'all just wait. You could have just set this on the show if you really meant it. No, because the thing is, really quick,

I have to say really quick, you're messing up the surprise. That's all. That's all. I told you this last week. Stats, yeah, you're messing up the surprise. You're messing up the surprise. I told you this last week.

Now it's gonna look performative. No, because now it's gonna look performative. It's like, oh yeah, no, that can't be, like no. Like that whole. Mace knows this and I told you this last week. I'm resilient. It's okay. It's not okay.

It's not okay. It's not okay. It's okay. It'll be okay, guys. It's not okay, guys. Stay tuned. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. Thanks for watching guys!