IT IS WHAT IT IS - CAN GOLDEN STATE WIN THE NBA FINALS & KILLA THINKS PODCAST P WILL BE MAKING A RETURN SOON! | S6 EP45

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Ma$e, Cam'ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are here with another one!! On this episode, Stat Baby quizzes the guys on Florida lingo but she quickly realizes that NY makes everything poppin'! Then, maybe Draymond Green wasn't trippin' when he said that the Warriors can win the finals this year and Cam'ron feels bad for the run that Kawhi Leonard has been on as of late. Next, Killa thinks Podcast P will be making a return now that he's officially ruled out for the season and can men and women play basketball the same?! Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states including California, Texas, and Missouri just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app.

Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus credits with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Treasurer Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam. Killer was good, man. Was good, bro. How are you today? Good, man. Was good, bro, how you today? Good, man, you still got the helmet, pause. You didn't give the other one away?

They online trying to win the helmets. Pause is more than one. And yeah, I got two helmets. I kept one for the house, I keep one for the show. This shit is dope. It's a fly out, I gotta give underdog credit. This is a really fly design. It is what it is, shit on the show. This shit is dope. It's a fly out. I gotta give Underdog credit. This is a really fly design. It is what it is. Shit on the front. I mean, if I play for a football team, I wouldn't mind wearing this helmet. I think it's dope. I like it. I'm gonna keep it here for a minute.

Yeah, it's definitely. You're looking, Nick, from Underdog. Facts. And the rest of the team. Okay, I actually got a quick question for y'all because ever since y'all got on me about not hearing like Das Green, everybody was like, okay, you guys should ask them more about Florida slang. So I'm gonna just say three words. So was that real? Because people wasn't telling me that Das Green was. Yes.

Florida when I heard Das Green, I thought I was like, a nigga's like a nerd, don't know nothing, like, oh, he's green, that nigga. Oh, like, unaware, like that type of thing. Yeah. Do you hear that before? Naive. That's not really the context. I've heard that, but it would be like, that's green,

like, that's fucked up. But have you heard the one I'm talking about? Not often. OK. That's not popular. No, no, no. Amongst you is not that popular. Let me get you. Let's not popular. No, no, no. Amongst you is not popular. Well, alright.

Let me get you, let me tell you. Okay, so I'm gonna just ask y'all a couple. I'm gonna start super, super, super, super easy because y'all should know this first one. Jit. Yeah, of course. I'm just making sure. What does it mean, Mase?

Like a young nigga. Okay, okay. What about like Grits? Only Grits, I knew Jit. Grits is the one shit I eat. I mean I like grits too. That's that's only grits I know. With cheese or sugar? Just butter actually and pepper, of course. Oh my mom.

He's old. He's old fashioned. How you like your grits? I used to have them with cheese later on in life, but I don't eat cheese no more. Okay, I like cheese grits. So y'all never heard that's grits? No. Silent. That means like everybody's face right now is so confused. That's like, that's dead. Like, it's not worth it. Like, I'm not doing it. It's grits?

Yeah. Have you ever heard of Kiss My Grits? No. We even. Last one I'll do today and I'll come back with more. I've never heard that one. Have you heard of Kiss My Grits before, Mota? Yeah. That lady on Alice.

What is that? I'll find out later. Because the more I research, I'm like, okay. Did you know what sugar mean? Sugar? Like your sweet? No. So what does that mean? Um, the old people used to say a kiss.

Oh. I've never heard that. I'm a- okay, last one for today. Whoa. Yeah, you down. You down today. No, I'm not! That's two to zero!

We knew what you was talking about. No, y'all knew one, Jit, because I started easy. Y'all didn't know Grinch. All right, so it's three one. And whoa. It was talking about. No, y'all knew one Jit because I started easy. Y'all didn't know Grits. All right. So it's three and one. It's three one. No. Well, how do you count like, whoa, I don't know. Grits means that's dead.

Yeah. Was, whoa. Yeah. What about the like, whoa, like, good. Like, where are we going? Whoa. That's like, see, that's the whole thing. Like, my whoa? Like, where we going, whoa? That's the whole thing, like, it depends, different states mean different thing. Like, my whoa, my homeboy. Yeah. But see, that's what it means for certain people,

because Drake was saying, we be saying, what my whoa? But Black Rob got a whole song called Like Whoa, and I'm from Harlem, and if I hear whoa being from Harlem, I'm going with like whoa. Have you ever heard the song Like Whoa and I'm from Harlem. And if I hear Whoa being from Harlem, I'm going with Like Whoa. Have you ever heard the song Like Whoa? Now that's crazy. That, it's five to two.

You never heard like- I've got the right record. You came in here to school and got school. You didn't hear like Whoa the record? No, she didn't. That was a big record. I gotta go back, cause maybe I don't know the name when I hear it.

When you hear it, you might as well. Nah, that's the cap right there. This is- I might. Cause I don't know the names. I might, I have to think about it. But when you just say like, whoa, like my head is like, no. Cause I don't even want to,

I'm really going to age myself if y'all know the like, well, I'm thinking of, cause y'all don't know what I'm thinking of. You pulled out a gun with two switches. Like, whoa. It's crazy you don't know what I'm thinking of. You pulled out a gun with two switches. Like, whoa. It's crazy you don't know, like, whoa. Got me there. I'm gonna go back and see, but I don't got it. In the comments, let us know if y'all knew any of the words or if you didn't. And if y'all got more that you want me to ask them.

Do you use the word dead ass? Yeah. You know where that came from? No. New York, man. Star Dad. People used to make fun of when niggas said Deadass from New York.

Oh, you must be from New York. That shit done went worldwide. Like they're poets. True. Very true. We the creators. That's what we do. Hey man, I'm white.

Big out, man. You know what you go listen to? It's a song. Ebonics. Ebon man, I'm waiting for every day. Big L, man, don't you go listen to us a song. Ebonics. Ebonics. You'll get all the slang. Big L, you got two songs for homework. Like Whoa, Black Rob, and Ebonics.

OK. Then we're going to quiz you. OK, I'll be prepared this time. Everybody thinking I'm not. I will be. Y'all just wait. OK, so let's get started. We're actually gonna talk about the Warriors.

So the Warriors beat the Bucs 104 to 93 without Steph Curry on Tuesday. So Mase, what does this tell you about the Bucs and what does this tell you about the Warriors? Whenever something like this of this magnitude happens with a team that's supposed to be recovering. And when I say recovering in content, we're talking about the Milwaukee Bucks. They're supposed to be recovering the status of a dominant East Coast team.

And when you're getting beat by the Warriors, you should never lose to the Warriors without Stephen Curry. That's just post-Clay Thompson. They should never lose to the Warriors without Stephen Curry. That's just post Clay Thompson. They should never lose to this team. So once they're losing to this kind of team, it just says a lot about where they are right now, like they're not they're not serious yet. That's what it says to me. It says that that Doc Rivers don't have them ready yet.

I don't want to go any further than that. That's enough to say, but it does say that Jimmy Butler is a real thing, because if Jimmy Butler could beat them without Steph, this is this is looking crazy. This is looking crazy. They're looking crazy right now. Looking at a fruit cup with backscores, I didn't pay attention to after the game was over. I've been saying this about the Bucks. We talked about the Bucks a couple of times

in the last part, let me put this there. Couple of times in the last couple of weeks. The Bucks started off slow. We didn't know if this Damien Lillard trade was gonna be good or bad. It hasn't worked out to their favor just yet. It's worked out for Boston so far with Drew Holiday, him actually coming in his first year

winning the championship there. So they're already behind an eight ball with not having Drew Holiday and having Damian Lillard there, even though we know that Damian Lillard is gonna be a Hall of Famer. Yeah, like I said, I'm not sure about Damian Lillard is working out because of True Holiday,

but Chris Middleton. I like a healthy Chris Middleton. The problem is Chris Middleton hasn't been healthy for a long time and Milwaukee probably was getting sick of it. Kyle Kuzma. Kyle Kuzma, I'm not mad at him, but is he as good as Chris Middleton? Is he that third piece or not even third piece, maybe fourth piece to get to an NBA championship? I'm not mad at him, but is he as good as Chris Middleton? Is he that third piece, or not even third piece,

maybe fourth piece to get to an NBA championship? I'm not sure. Yanes is doing what Yanes can do, but a lot of people figured Yanes out. Has his jump shot gotten better? Absolutely. Free throws gotten better? Absolutely.

But it was a time a couple years ago when we thought Yanes was to be one of them players that was about to dominate the league for the next six, seven, eight years. And he looked that dominant. But then when the playoffs came and they started setting traps in double teams and triple teams,

he didn't look that inferior over other players as he did leading into the playoffs. That's the one thing about the playoffs. That's my question with OKC. Are they going to win a seven game series? Because people have time to figure you out. This is not football where it's any given Sunday, one game and you're done.

This is not the NCAA tournament where one game you're done. This is a battle of nutrition. Four wins, possibly seven games, and people figure you out. Milwaukee has done nothing to show me that they're ready to be one of the top teams in the East. I'm not even sure if I have them ahead of the Knicks with a fully healthy Knicks. I'm talking about Jaylen Brunson included.

And it's really disappointing. It's really disappointing because we're sitting there saying, okay, okay, we love Drew Holiday, but Yonis with Damian Lillard? It should be a go. It should definitely be a go. And it hasn't been a go. Now, we know Bobby Portis is out for a certain amount of games. Is Bobby Portis that big a difference to where they can't win without Bobby Portis? We'll see when the playoffs come because Bobby Portis is one of the rumble tumble dudes. You know, he reminds me of a player

who could have played in the 90s or early 2000s who isn't afraid to get in their scrap a little bigger than Draymond Green, so to speak, but he brings that intensity to the Milwaukee Bucks and we know that he's out for whatever reasons he's out for. If you don't know why he's out, Google it. They'll tell you why he's out for whatever reasons he's out for. If you don't know why he's out, Google it. They'll tell you why he's out. But not sure.

I have no faith in Milwaukee. I thought coming into the season, they would be a top-four team. They're fifth in the East now, if I'm not mistaken, but they're not a dominant fifth. And me a fifth in the East right now is not really hard to do. I have no faith in Milwaukee.

As far as the Warriors are concerned, they're looking sensational. Everybody thought Draymond Green was bugging during All-Star break when Draymond Green said that they could possibly win a championship. Well, with Jimmy Butler there, it doesn't look like a joke that much. You know, Jimmy Walker just got there right before All-Star, so people laughed at Draymond when he said that. But I tell you one thing for sure, two things for certain,

that Golden State right now currently is fourth in favorites to win the championship, either fourth or fifth, one or the other. I believe it's Boston they have first, then don't get me wrong with the order. I know Boston's first, then OKC, then they had Cleveland and the Lakers, then I believe it's the Warriors, if I'm not mistaken. And this is a team that before they got Jimmy Butler,

we wasn't even knowing if they was gonna make the play-in, let alone the playoffs to be the number five team east or west to win a championship as far as gambling is concerned, so it's vague concern, as far as the underdog and all the other apps are concerned, they are actually fourth or fifth to win. And who the fucking thought that

before Jimmy Butler got there? So I wouldn't say that the Milwaukee Bucks are declining, but they're stagnant. And I would definitely say that Golden State is on the climb. And just to confirm that for you, the Warriors are listed as fifths. So it's the Thunder, the Celtics, the Cavs, the Nuggets, and the Warriors.

Yeah. Like I said. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. It's starting to make sense number-wise because when you got three extra players that could come off the bench and get double figures, whether that's Buddy Hill, whether that's Gary Payton, Jr. and Kaminga. Now they're bringing Kaminga off the bench.

So if they they could get three players, three to four players, they get double figures. That's definitely a championship pedigree. Yeah, so specifically in this game, Jimmy Butler played really well, but also so did Draymond. So he was asked if he has a case to be named the league's best defender. He said, I look around the league and I don't see many players impacting the game on the defensive end the way I do. I don't see many players completely throwing off an entire team's offense the way I do. So 1000% basically saying now with Wemby out of the picture, he thinks that he could be that guy. So what do you think about what he said and who would be your case for

defensive player of the year? Right now, I haven't even thought much about it. I will need a little bit more time to consider that just on the spot. I like my picks to be accurate. But right now, we're just talking about Draymond as is right now. I think he makes a strong case every year if he could refrain from the foolishness of yoking people and, you know, choking players and all that. I think that kind of really those kind of antics took him out of the conversation of best defensive players. So his defense has never been questioned.

It's just been the other antics that he started doing later on in the season. I don't know where that came from. Yeah, listen, first of all, we thought Wimby would win it. Wimby probably was going to win it until he got hurt. So Wimby's out of conversation right now. Draymond Green every year has a, whether they talk about him or not in a defensive player conversation,

every year he should definitely be one of the top five players in the defensive conversation of the year category. Look, Draymond seems like he has, not seems, he does have a lot of anics like Mase says. He does bring a lot to the table off, not say off the court, but outside of the game. But I think that's what motivates him. I think that's what makes his team galvanize around him.

The fact that he's so passionate, so he's emotional. He wears his emotions on his sleeves, and you can actually see that. Does he get a little bit dirty at times? Pause, yeah, sometimes he does, but sometimes that's what needed. Let me tell you something about Draymond. And if anybody wanna go back and watch that series,

the Warriors against the Celtics, the year that the Warriors actually beat the Celtics in the championship a couple years ago. Draymond, the Warriors was down that series, and Draymond started getting crazy. That's what happened. He started flipping niggas on the floor. The nigga actually pulled down Jalen Brown's pants one time. Jalen Brown was just confused.

He didn't even know what the fuck was going on. Threw Jason Tatum on the floor, but all that showed more grit. And I know we're not here for a boxing and wrestling match, but sometimes that gives you energy if you see your teammate doing the dirty things that make you excel as a see your teammate doing the dirty things that make you excel as a basketball player.

So Draymond to me is the heart and soul of the Golden State Warriors locker room. Far as the Defensive Player of the Year situation. Right now I would have him in second place for Defensive Player of the Year. If I had to pick somebody right now for Defensive Player of the Year, it'd be Evan Moley from the Cleveland Cavaliers.

There, his rebound is double digits. I can't tell you off the top of my head, but I know he's averaging close to 13-something rebounds or maybe more, a little more, a little less, over a block and a half per game. And sometimes it's not just about the rebounds and the blocks. It's also about the presence in the middle of the floor. It's also about making people change their shots. It's also about the presence in the middle of the floor. It's also about making people change their shots

It's also about deflections right now He is my lead candidate for defensive player of the year and I've Draper in second place not far second place But Evan Mobley right now if I had to pick would be my defensive player of the year Yeah, and I remember who I would say, Amen, from Houston. I would play him. How'd you remember that quick, man? She just said you want your picks to be right and you want to be accurate.

What happened that fast? Because I was looking in my notes. Okay, I didn't know you put a million. Oh no, before I said his name, a while back as a defensive player and it seemed like he kind of faded in the last couple of weeks, but when you brought up the guy from Cleveland, I remember it.

You want to make a bet? I know you don't gamble, gamble. A little 10 pushups a certain on the show. On who? I got Evan Mobley. You guys sure got 10 pushups. Oh, no, he's young. I can't bet on him that early.

Oh, I know. All right. He's young, you know't bet on him that early. Oh, I know. I ain't not confident. He's young, you know. He's not consistent yet. This sound like a nigga paid you to say his name on the show. That's better sound like me. Well, no, didn't I say his name before? Amen Thompson. Yeah, he is good. He's just injured right now.

So like he's... But earlier on, those were those conversations. You did bring him up because he was doing pretty well. And then to your point with Ed Mobley, he is averaging 9.2 rebounds per game. So that's the- He ain't even having double digits, but I'm gonna go with him right now. Yeah.

I mean, the Cavs are still on top. So do y'all want to make a bet or? No, this is it. I'm rooting for the Cavs. No, and if his man is injured, that ain't a fair bet. I wouldn't have put that bet if that thing ain't playing. Cause if Wimby was praying, Wimby would win.

Yeah. We'll get back to your answer a few episodes from now, just to kind of see where your head's at, just so we can get a confirmed answer. But, so Steph Curry is listed to make his return to Day versus the Raptors. So, Underdog has Steph at 26 and a half points. 50.

No, let me stop. I'm crazy. No. You have him higher or lower? Higher. You know, Steph coming back off of whatever he's coming off, he's definitely looking to shoot and shoot amazingly well. So I would go higher.

I'm never gonna bet against Stephen Curry. If he's on the court, he has a chance to win or a chance to do whatever they put him down for. You know what I love about the NBA, and because you know, not just NBA, professional teams and athletes and coaches, staffers and scouts and GMs, they have this shit down to a science. Because you sit there and you talk basketball with niggas

or people who's in the casual world who don't have access to GMs or players and so on and so forth. And they be like, yo, nah, this nigga gonna do this tonight, do this tonight. When it's really like a whole system, a whole like, okay, he's ready. And I'm not talking about Self Curry,

but I'm gonna use Self Curry because that's who he's picking. But the answer to for Underdog, Self Curry is gonna have higher than 26 points tonight. But they strategize it. So let's say for instance, I don't know who Golden State's last game was, but it is not really important.

But let's just say it was Borussia, right? They said, nah, he ain't played for a while. We ain't gonna do Borussia. Let's bring him in against the Raptors. So he could warm, you know, to me it's disrespectful to the Raptors. They don't respect you. So they say, let's ease them back in.

Bring them back in against East. Pause, you know what I'm saying? This man is disrespectful. Like, nah, we ain't gonna do that against Boston. We're gonna warm up against the Raptors, come back in, and then that way, when they get ready to play Cleveland, he'll be ready by then.

Take it as disrespect, Toronto, because that's exactly what it is. He probably could have came back last game or the game before, but they waited for you to be on the calendar because they sit there and say, them niggas is 24 or 45, they not even making a plan. Fuckers, we, yeah, let them come back against them. Hire, and I'm gonna be part of the disrespect,

and say hire. So, Raptors, I would be totally disrespected. That should be, I might have somebody do investigation on that. How many good players came back against the Raptors for their warmup games to get back in the league? That's what I'm gonna find out. Answers higher.

Okay, and Draymond Green's at one and a half first quarter rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower? K? Higher. Higher. Okay, and Scotty Barnes, 17 and a halfounds. Do you have them higher or lower, K? Higher. Higher. Hey, and Scotty Barnes, 17 and a half points. Do you have them higher or lower, Mase? Higher, yeah, definitely.

I'm gonna go lower. Okay, make sure y'all download the Underdog app and you can make your picks too. So, the Clippers had a good little win against the Cavs. 132 to 119. They're currently the seventh seed in the West. Mace, do you think that the Clippers are being slept on, considering how close the wins are in the West,

or do you think that they're nothing to be worried about right now? No, I think the Clippers are a decent team, and the reason why I say decent and not good or great yet is because winning one game is different than winning five. You know, what it takes to win one game, you just have to be good on that night. When it comes to being great in a series, you got to be able to make adjustments on the fly.

And they haven't shown me that yet, you know, so they made the adjustment of Paul not being there, but they had a long enough time to do that. When you're playing in those series, you got to make an adjustment tomorrow or you got to make an adjustment tonight. Somebody been put in a lineup, somebody's been taken out of the lineup and now you got to do something you didn't plan to do, switch your game plans up. And this seemed like a team as long as things are going the way they wanted to go, they'll do well, but they don't.

They haven't shown me yet that they can respond to that adversity and still get the job done. Now James Harden is having an amazing season. He's looking like he's having one of those kind of MVP seasons, but it's not enough on that team to beat anybody out of the West. The West is loaded right now. You got you got Golden State, you got any any of those teams. You got OKC, you got. Denver, you know, all these teams, you got the Lakers coming on Paul Strong.

So now with all of these teams ahead of them, I don't see them being the Lakers in a five game series. I don't see them beating Golden State in a five game series. Definitely not in a seven game series because they'll figure out that once you double team James Hart and somebody else will have to beat you. And it just haven't been time to do that. It's like boxing.

You know, a person can see you keep making the same mistake and they don't take advantage of it because they waiting to take advantage of it when they need to. So it's just not time to take advantage of their weaknesses. And they got glaring on weaknesses. And the exact question, stats aren't answering correctly. Do you think the Clippers are being slept on on the West

considering how close the winds are, or do you think they're nothing to really be worried about right now? The Clippers on the West, I'm actually proud of what the Clippers are doing so far, to be totally honest with you. It's the seventh seed, the third seed, the tenth seed. When you have a superstar, or former superstar,

or have a star, or whatever you want to call, Kawhi Leonard at this point in his career, and you're banking on him to show up this season and he doesn't show up this season, it's hard to try and get chemistry because you know why? When Kawhi Leonard comes back, you know he's going to get minutes, whether he needs to, whether he's in full rotation or whether he's getting back in shape rotation or whatever the case is, he's gonna get minutes. Right now, Kawhi Leonard has played 23 games, either 23 or 26 games, pardon me.

I was doing a little homework before we did the show. I don't remember if it's 23 or 26 games, one or the other. But the point is, he's played less than half the games this season. Not only has he played less than half the games this season, he's averaging 20 points, 19.2 points per game. He's averaging 2.9 rebounds, five or six if I'm not mistaken.

With these numbers, these are great, these are decent numbers. Kawhi Lennon can give you better numbers, but if he's not playing consistently, what do you want him to do? What do you want Ty Lue to do when he says Kawhi is ready to go, and then you get him

in the rotation for two games and then he's missing for another 10 games? And then he comes back and gets in the rotation for three games and he's missing another 15 games. Now you get, what do you want Ty Lue to do? I have no idea what you want Ty Lue to do. As far as them being a let down, I wouldn't say they're a let down. You can't do nothing without the best player on your team on the court. Now, I love what I'm seeing from James Harden this season.

James Harden is giving me Houston flashbacks. I love Houston James Rock, pardon me, James Harden when he's with the Rockets. And I love seeing what the fuck he doing with the Clippers because we see a niggas getting put in the trick bag. You reach in, he's going through the legs, he's scrambling, and he goes, J-Var did some shit the other night.

How the hell, I thought the nigga was in the park. Nigga look crazy the other night. But we all know that does not equal championships. We seen this movie, and I like the movie. It's like John Wick. I don't watch John Wick, but I know niggas will go see the new John Wick. You know what's going to happen. He going to kill 7,900 people in the movie, and you still, and he's not going to die,

and you're still going to go see it. Same thing with James Harden. I'm going to go see the movie again because I like seeing the movie. I liked the Globetrotters when I was little, too. But at the end of the day, you're not gonna win a championship with this style of basketball. Is it entertaining?

Absolutely, he's very entertaining every time I see it. But you're not gonna win. But at the end of the day, I can't get mad at the Warriors for what they're trying to do with a Peredio Hall of Fame when it's time for them to go to the Hall of Fame and you don't know his schedule. Yeah.

If the playoffs started right now, they're in seven places. So they will be playing the Houston Rockets, which will be perfect. And playing against his old team. And I think they'll be out first round. I can't even. That's why I said that.

Yeah, no great takes. OK, so here's a hot take. So Stephen A says the reason I'm not sold on the Clippers is because I'm just looking at my watch and I'm just waiting for Kawhi Leonard to get hurt. I know that come playoff time, he's not going to be available. So I know you guys both just had your takes. But hearing what Stephen A said, do you agree with his point of view or not? I didn't even consider coiling it.

I think when Kawhi comes back there, they're much everybody knows they're a much dangerous team. But if he's not in shape and that doesn't really help them. So it puts them back where I was saying before they out in the first round. So and and that's probably what Stephen A is talking about, because the writing is on the wall and no matter how great James Harden is playing, there's a history. There's a pattern of history with James Harden that just says he's going to go to the playoffs

and it's not going to get done. And I love the one-on-one play pause and I love, you know, the dribbling and all of that and getting 40 points. But until he proves different and I'm not hating on James Harden, I love to watch him play. But it's just until he wins, that's going to be the stigma that's on his name. So just to clarify, you're not really putting it on Kawhi, you're putting it on James Harden style of play. Yeah, because even if they got Kawhi Leonard, the ball's going to be in James

Harden hand and James Harden is not going to defer to Kawhi. I just don't see that. Must be an echo in here sound like I just said the same thing a second ago. You're lay-oo. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. My nigga Murda with the echo. We're seeing the Old Joke Society. We're seeing, I was trying to see, when's the last time Karatlyn had played? That's what I'm sitting here trying to find out.

Yeah, I mean, he played in that game versus the Cavs and had 33 points. See, that's what I'm trying to say. And what I'm saying is this, because Murdaugh alluded to when he comes back. He come back when he won. Murdaugh like this nigga, we come back this week two games,

missing for three weeks, then come back for four games, we missing, like that's what I'm trying to tell you, is that is no consistency. And as a coaching staff and as a team, going into the playoffs, you're trying to build some consistency because we know he's going to get in when he's time to play.

But let's say for instance, right, pardon me, I was three years on the basketball team with two other people. And Stat is getting coiled in minutes, but Stat playing decent. But then, coiled come back, Stapp Minnis is gonna fall because we gotta get James Hart, pardon me, Kawhi Lenny back into the rotation when we're playing okay without him, but we know we can play better with him.

Okay, let's get him back, cut Stapp Minnis out, and then he leave again. So now, Stapp like, we all know these niggas is emotional. We know this. Everybody got a little bit of emotion in them. But how you handling it, that's one thing from another. Yeah, niggas were my 17 points back again after Koala. That guy hurt niggas,

need my little 13 to contribute again. I cool, but it's fucking the chemistry up. So that's why when murder was talking, I was like, no, no, no. And the disagreement way is more like when he get back, when the fuck is he get back? They beat back every week, every other every other week for a couple of games and then break out.

Like what did you find? And when's the last time he played outside of the 33 points? Was it two weeks before that? Yeah, well, okay, so just in general, since January, he's played 26 games. There's 16 in 10 when he is on the floor, but let me look to confirm the exact games that he... I don't know how many games it's been since January, but the point being is,

Murda, this nigga, we don't know when he playing. And listen, I'm one of the people that's hard on the people, boys, that say, load management this time, third, you know, we don't support load management at this show. Well, I don't, Ty Lou doesn't strike me as a person who lies. And Ty Lou was saying that it's nice

that Carole Lenin calls him crying, saying how bad he wants to play and can't play. He's just not an emotional person in public. But, Ty- What is he crying about? That he can't play, he wants to play bad, and he's not healthy enough to play. This is what's out of Ty Lue's mouth.

And, but the way Ty Lue explained it, I don't see somebody just making that up about Kawhi Leonard. If you told me Ben Simmons said that, I was like, get the fuck out of here. I don't see a nigga making that up about Kawhi Leonard. Speaking of Ben Simmons, he's also on the Clippers. Just don't not bring that up, because people forget that he got traded to the Clippers.

But I don't see Kawhi Leonard. And like I said, I don't support low management, even though low management actually started with him and the San Antonio fucking Spurs and Greg Popovich, shout out to Pop. With Ty Loo just making that up, saying the man calls him in the middle of the night crying, saying he wished he could do more to help the team out.

So whatever Kawhi's going through, whether it's physical, whether it's mental, whether it's, whatever it is, I hope you get better, bro. I hope you can get back on the court because you're a great talent to watch. It's sensational. And I'm rooting for you, man.

I know you have a lot of personal things that go on outside the court. And they're rooting for you, man. I know you have a lot of personal things to go on outside the court. And they're not just little things, deaf family members, et cetera. And it looked like you keep a lot of it modeled up. And I can't tell you what to do, mental health-wise or anything else-wise or physical-wise.

I don't really know you that well. We met a couple of times, that's fine. But you are such a great talent bro that I hope whatever you got going on it figures itself out you get back on the court. I think the reason why we're not talking about Kawhi Leonard missing a lot of games as many as he's missed the last few seasons, seasons, pardon me, is because we're watching SGA be a version of what Kawhi Leonard was doing. To me with a little more flair actually.

Kawhi Leonard don't usually do three, four, five, six, dribble through the legs. Kawhi Leonard finds the spots, picks them, mid-range game is crazy, crazy middy. Get to the basket, finish with either hand. Great defender. We know he's prime time under pressure. Great, great outstanding talent,

but SGA is kind of have a little bit of the same game. Midy is crazy, a little bit more flair on the handle, get into the basket as he pleases. And I think to me, that's kind of compensating for why we're not asking where the fuck Kuala Leonard at all season. Yeah. So to answer a couple of your questions, so Kwai actually has been pretty consistent because

versus the Caz, he had 33 points. Last game before that was March 16th, the Hornets 23 points. Then right before March 14th, the Hawks 25 points. Then the Pelicans 9 points. Now I ain't worrying about the points. Yeah, just the games played. What's his dates? 25 points, then the Pelicans get nine points. Nine, I don't know about the points. Yeah, just the games played. What's his dates?

Yeah, March 18th, March 16th, March 14th, March 11th, March 9th. So he's been pretty consistent. Okay, cool, good. But to answer your question about Ben Simmons, he did get 13 minutes versus the Cavs. He just had zero points. So.

Well, you know, one thing for sure, two things for certain. That is very, very good to hear for the Clippers organizations and the LA fan base to like the Clippers, because if you got Kawhi Leonard revving up for the playoffs right now, now this could be a definitely different scenario. You know, like I said, I haven't been watching a lot of Clipper games,

so pardon me if I've been mistaken on the games that he's been, hasn't been playing, has and haven't been watching a lot of clipping games. So pardon me if I've been mistaken on the games that he's been, hasn't been playing, has and hasn't been playing. But that's one thing for sure is that if you got a healthy Kawhi Leonard in the playoffs, this could be dangerous. Now look, I know what Mase said just now about James Horton,

not deferring to Kawhi Leonard, but if you, listen, this is a great question. If you got a 100% fully healthy Kawhi Leonard and James Horton, I don't know if Houston beats him. I don't know. Yeah, not if he's healthy. I'm not going with him if he's healthy. Cause they even got homeboy from Atlanta that,

what's his name, Bogden or something like that. He had 20 and he's tough. He's a good spot up shooter. If he's open, he can knock down all the threes. And when you got- Yeah, Powell too. Norman Powell. And Patty Mills, Paul.

So they got a lot of, they got a good team on paper. I don't know If everybody's healthy. If everybody's healthy, I don't know if Houston wants that matchup, but healthy Kawhi Leonard in the playoffs is very, very dangerous. So pardon me for getting the dates mixed up, but when I was watching, I wasn't sure what he's playing.

But if he's rubbing off for the playoffs, he's going to be healthy. I kind of disagree with Mace a little bit. When I say that, I don't think that James Hart would defer to Kawhi, because the thing about it is this, James Hart had been deferring the last couple years. James Hart actually won the SIS Award last year with Joe Ellen B being the centerpiece for Philadelphia.

But I do get what Mace is saying. He's saying that Kawhaiians, I mean, probably James Hartons is in his James Harton bag, and part of me. Yeah, they got him at the two. Yeah, and listen, I ain't mad at whatever James Harton, he can play one or two. But what I will say is James Harton, to me,

needs to figure out that medium of when he can be Houston James Rocking, and when he can be Brooklyn Nets slash Philadelphia James Hart, because he was passing to Kevin Durant. He was passing to Kawhi Leonard, I mean, pardon me, Kyrie Irving, those short games they played. We seen what he did with Joel Amiti, fed him the ball, because he wanted to win the championship.

One thing about James Hart, and that we have to realize too, before he actually left Houston to go to Brooklyn, they offered him a two year deal for 103 million, which at that time was crazy. And he turned it down to chase a ring. So now he's like, the ring may not be here. Let me go back to just get it doing what I do. But I think if he thinks they have a chance

to win the championship, he knows how to be a point guard as well. So we'll see what happens, but pardon me, LA fans, Clippers fans, I didn't know that James, pardon me, that Kawhi Leonard was back in the loop because I would definitely be watching the games when the Clippers have a full healthy team.

I love that team that is constructed presently, even without Paul George there. I think James Hart and then Karal Lennon still got a lot left from the tank and they can be dangerous if everybody's healthy in the playoffs. Okay, we're gonna go to break when we return. We will discuss the Rockets. Don't go anywhere. One heart, one heart, one love. Don't go anywhere. What? Damn. I'm Rico fucking Strong. Oh, shit.

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I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him. I'm gonna kill him. Welcome back. So the Houston Rockets are currently the second seed in the West Mace. Do you think they are the true second best team in the West or is it only a matter of time?

You always ask me the weird questions that are they to do they live up to the second best team? Absolutely not. Like they did well coming from where they were last year, but second place. No, you think when I think of second place, I think of somebody like Denver or someone like LA. Houston, we got to see because the playoffs is going to let me know if they're ready to

take that next step. You know, you work well in the 82 game system and then you got to prove that we're ready to be another type of team. And that takes a lot of grit, takes a lot of focus, takes a lot of things that the the the regular season just doesn't doesn't prepare you for. I think the regular season just give you seeding and they give you home court advantage, but it don't prepare you for playing the same team over and over

and over and being able to beat them decisively three and four games. over and over and over and being able to beat them decisively three and four games. I don't know if they're the second best team, but I will give them kudos for being where they at. Like Mase said, this year, as opposed to last year, we have to see what happens in the playoffs. This is a young core of players, primarily their best players are younger.

They got some veterans on the team, but we do know a few people on that team have a chip on their shoulder, and not just the players, the coach as well. Dylan Brooks has a chip on his shoulder. Eme Ucadoka has a chip on his shoulder. People wanna win, and we'll see what happens when the playoffs start.

Like May said, it's a different, and I say this about not just Houston, I say this about Oklahoma City the last few episodes as well. We already see how dominant they are in the regular season. It's the playoffs that's gonna count, and that's where I'm at with the Houston Rockers. We're sitting there saying they did a second best team, but they're actually second best

because they probably hold the tiebreaker, or not even the tiebreaker, they got a better winning percentage they probably hold the tiebreaker, or not even the tiebreaker, they got a better winning percentage right now than the Lakers. Because the Lakers and them, basically are two games behind them, but not really because they play more games than the Lakers.

Between the two seed, which is them, and the five seed, the Memphis Grizzlies, it's a two game span between two and five. So next week, Memphis can be number two. So next week Memphis could be number two. Next week Houston could be number five. Denver could be number three. This whole thing between two and five could switch up in the next week.

And not only that, Golden State is only three games or two and a half games behind. Memphis, which is in the, which is in the, pardon me, the fifth spot. So Golden State's in the sixth spot. A the, pardon me, the fifth spot. So Golden State's in the sixth spot. A game, three games, pardon me, two and a half games behind Memphis, not only that, we have the Clippers

that's only one game behind Golden State in the seventh seed. Not only that, we have the Minnesota Timberwolves who's been on the chairs of late, who's only one game behind Golden State. This whole thing from two to eight in the Western Conference, compared cake, flip-flop, waffle, French toast, any minute, any time, any day of the week. So we gotta keep a close eye on this as the weeks come. But if it's gonna stay the same way as it is now,

absolutely not. We're gonna see a bunch of changes in the next few weeks. But they answered the question outright. Is Houston Rockets the second best team in the Western Conference? The statistics say so. So as of now, yes. Yeah, I just thought that was a fun one, because if you really look at the, you know, the top six teams is really the new hotness versus like the

OGs. Cause you got SGA, you got Jalen Green, then you got Yokoz, then you got LeBron and Luca, then you got John Moran, then you got Stefan Draymond. So it was like, Hey, it'd be a fun little thing that they got going on. The Lakers is not the new hotness staff. No, no, they're not. I'm saying in comparison, in comparison, when I think new hotness, I'm thinking OKC, I'm thinking Rockets, and then I'm thinking the OGs, like the Warriors,

the Lakers, so that's the kind of matchup that I'm, that's how I'm seeing it, so. How old was you when OKC, Kevin Durant, and Russell Westbrook? Very young, that's all y'all need to know. Damn, man. Shit seemed like yesterday, man. Very young. Okay, so Paul George has been ruled out

for the rest of the season after receiving injections in his left abductor muscle and left knee. We kind of saw this coming, didn't know if he was gonna make the decision. Ultimately, he ended up making the decision. What does this mean for the Sixers? I know we talk about them a lot, but it's just like hit after hit after hit.

This Philly team is gonna it looks like they're going to become the new Milwaukee. Actually, that's what it seemed like. You know, like you get this trade where it seems like this is going to be everything. This is going to turn this franchise to what it need to be. And then it's just something happened and something happened. And then you promise next year is going to be better. And it just turns into that same Milwaukee feeling. That's what is giving me Milwaukee bucks.

When they got Damon Lillian and everybody was like, oh, he's going. Next year is going to be a better year. This is that year. I don't know if people remember this is that year. I don't know if people remember this is that year. What's the over and under the podcast come on Monday? What's the over and under on the abductor, conductor, abductor, whatever duck do you want podcast back on, I bet you that much.

They can't wait to race to that motherfucking podcast. That nigga will be, that nigga wheelchair, crutches, cane, whatever the fuck muscle shot. See, that shit will not stop the podcast. The boy can't live without the podcast, man. He can't live without it. Shit got so crazy, nigga said, my abductors is fucked up.

Shoot me up and take me out for the rest of the season so I can get back to the podcast. What was it? It had to be no more than two weeks ago that we niggas said, you know what? I'm gonna stop the podcast, the focus to try and help us win the championship. If you've been working on your abductors

the whole season before you figured this out, you wouldn't have been needing no abductor help, nigga. You need abductor shots because you've been sitting on your ass, pause, doing the podcast. You just finally clicked into your head, wait a minute. Podcast ain't paying me no motherfucking 50 million a year. It's, I like doing it, but I ain't gonna, let me focus on this.

Now, the doctor, whatever doctor stat, I know you're gonna say, I say the doctor. I don't give a fuck. Cause matter of fact, I did dog, let's do a special one. Let's do a special over another on Paul George, a special co-care just on when the podcast P podcast come back out. What's today's stat?

The 20th? Yeah. 27th podcast be out. The latest, the latest podcast P go watch him y'all cause he won't be with the Sixers. You can't see him there. Go see the podcast. He's out for the season, mysteriously.

What do you say, Stat, on the 27th or before? I feel like because he knows people are going to have this reaction, he's purposely not going to do it, I'm hoping. But what I'm saying is- No, I think he's from LA. He's still gonna stick with the 27. What I'm saying is, I feel like Stass said,

so this is why I picked the 27. Let me tell you why. Because I think he wanna do it before the 27. I'm giving him a week, cause it's probably gonna itch him. Like, microphone ready? Just shitting the cameras up. I could do this a whole week.

He don't got a place so you know he wanna get on the podcast. I said a week because I agree with Stat that he gonna hold out so after the 27th just to prove me wrong. I agree with that 100% because him not playing ball and not doing the podcast for a week is gonna burn them up.

But I do agree with you, Starr. I think it'll hold out just purpose, just because. I'm not going to, like, it got to prove a point. I agree. Okay, so last topic before we wrap. So the LA Sparks are holding male practice tryouts to practice with the girls for the upcoming WNBA season. After some concerns, the team said any players selected for the practice

squad will undergo a thorough background check process to ensure the safety and wellbeing of their athletes. So just when you hear that. What do you mean by that? The background checks are the male practice squad. If you got guys in there, what is your background check for? Just to make sure, because people are weird. So you got to make sure, you know, they practice it with stand up men.

But the question is, how do you feel about that? Male practice squad. Um, does the guys get to have a ladies practice squad? Like, well, no, they're not. They're just regular. Like, they're not playing in the league or anything. So like, no. I asked you that so you could see how I felt when you asked me that.

You see, when I said, are the guys going to have ladies there? You said, no. Like, why would they, right? So that's what I was thinking. I still lost because they would have the guys to practice with them, like, why would they, right? So that's what I was thinking. I still lost because they would have the guys to practice with them, obviously, because they're like stronger. So you're saying on that, what are you thinking? I thought the women could shoot as well as the guys. That's what Sabrina showed us.

Basically, that what makes us trying to tell you is if it's good for the girls, why they ain't good for the guys. That's what he's saying. If the girls got a practice squad of guys, why the guys can't have a practice squad of girls? The reason why it's not registered to you, Stata, is because you're not realizing Macy's being sarcastic when he's saying this.

It's not registered into your brain. So I'm telling you this, he's being serious, but he's being sarcastic. He's basically saying what you're trying to do is make logical sense. Be like, of course they want guys because they're stronger, they're faster, whatever. But ain't it supposed to be the girls are strong, fast, and can do everything the guys could do? That's what Mason said to you, stat. He had no infliction in his voice or anything.

I'm like, what are you saying? Yeah, he's been poker-faced. Like, bad poker-faced. I'm like, uh. Yeah, he basically said, why the girls can't practice with the guys if the guys can't practice with the girls. And you're not...

Since it's a ladies' world. So you can answer the question. Yes. Since it's a ladies' ladies world and they shoot as well as guys and they can do everything a guy can do, why do you need guys? I can leave that to the people, but I think that it makes sense to me. But that's actually a good question.

It is a valid question. You're making total sense. It's when you asked it that didn't. Yeah. But. Well, see. I don't know, that goes back to the point where, and, and like I said, I'm not fighting no fight with nobody, but if girls are just as good as guys and everything that guys do sports related was, why do you want men practicing

with girls? If the girls could do what the guys can do. That's my max. You don't understand what I'm saying. No, I do understand. You're saying I don't have an answer for you. Oh, well, that's what I'm trying to say, because girls supposed to be able to run as fast, play tennis is good, jump as high, play basketball is good. What do you need niggas for to practice with the girls?

Because you want to make the girls better so that when they play against girls and be like, we can do this against men. Right. But why? If they're not better. Yeah. Well, I don't think anybody said that they're not. I still think shooting is different from like physicality though.

Like, I still think that's a difference. Y'all niggas be wanting y'all way for specific categories. Like we can shoot, but the physicality part. Go on, go on, Murda. I mean that makes the difference though. So that's why they having the background check for the physicality. Cause they'll be boxing, like the niggas, like they'll be

In case it gets chippy. Yeah. Then why have niggas there anyway? Yeah. Cause I just feel like if you get, I mean it's self-explanatory, if you get bigger dudes that you boxing down against, like it's gonna make you stronger.

And better. Anyway, not to cut your guys off, cause this is an interesting conversation you had, but South Carolina does this too. They have male basketball, practice players, college students, college tutors do this, but that's what I'm talking about. When I'm talking about certain shit.

See what Stat just did? She made, Stat made such a great point because murder just kept picking at her, picking at her, she didn't even realize it. But the point is, niggas want convenience. When it's shooting, it's all good. The point is, niggas want convenience. When it's shooting, it's all good. But the overall whole sport, it's too physical, it's too much physicality.

You're like, you can't win. You can't win. You can't win. You can't win. Let me win, but then, I could win. Yeah, yeah, like yeah. Yo, nah, shooting's different. It is though.

Yes, but a three point shootout is very different from playing still. Okay, so why do you wanna play with niggas? Well, they're not, this is for practice purposes, not in the actual games. To make them stronger. Exactly. But we knew that already.

But the whole thing is, ain't girls strong too? Yes, but not as strong. Then what about the girls that be trying to pop on niggas in the street and swing on them and all that? That's between them. And that niggas can't. And some girls them and all that. That's between them. And stuff grows stronger. Look, at the end of the day, if you want to get niggas,

and like I said, that was a great conversation that you and Mase had. And I'm glad Mase brought that up because you didn't even get it, first of all. That was even funnier. That's why I had to stop it and translate the sarcasm. But I understand it.

Trust me, I understand why they want men practicing with them. I totally understand. But for equal opportunities, women-wise, is this fair? I'm still a little lost, so I'm gonna just leave it. It's not translated. It's not a right or wrong answer. You give me a real opinion.

Well, I'm saying it still might not be translating, but you're basically, it's all sarcasm for me and Mase. Yeah, we get what the question is. Yeah, I know that. We get, okay, they want to practice with niggas so they get stronger. So when they play against other females, they'll be more dominant

because if they feel they can do whatever the niggas, they can do whatever the females. But what about the female mentality that's always like, we can do what men do. We can do everything a nigga could do, but you want to practice with niggas. Go find the females that think they could do everything a nigga could do and then go practice with them.

That's all Mase was trying to elude to and I'm not mad at that. Yeah. I was gonna say, my response was this. Look, underdog put together, they wanna get crazy. Me, we'll get the underdog team. Me, Murda, Gilbert Arena, Swaggy P, and Kenyon Martin. Go five on five for that chicken.

Go to over and under on that. Pause. I know Gil will be willing. Gil get three. We got two. Pause. Let's go play against them joints. See what they talking about.

I wanna see it. Yeah. Yeah, underdog, put that together, man. That would be... But shout out Don Staley, because they do do it over there at South Carolina, as you were saying. And like I said, we were just giving... I'm not disagreeing with what South Carolina does. I love that.

I'm not disagreeing with what the Sparks want to do. We were just being facetious and giving the other side of the equation, because... We don't need niggas for shit. A lot of females have that mentality. And then the same female, and this ain't sports related, the same female be like, nigga can't even help me with my rent. And that's why I was confused just real quick

because I don't even have that mentality. Like I don't care about men. Like I literally think we need each other. You know, I'm not disagreeing, but as females with that mentality, you be like, I don't need a nigga for shit. Next month she need help with her rent. That was really good. That was a good one.

That was equitable. Well, y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. Thanks for watching!