IT IS WHAT IT IS - CJ STROUD TOOK IT TO BURROW AND OJ'S 49ERS ARE SO BACK | IIWII EP#43

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

Cam'ron, Ma$e & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson and THE JUICE O.J Simpson kick us off for Ep 43 of “It Is What It is” Season 2!  ***NEW MERCH** Shop the Come And Talk 2 Me Store....https://comeandtalk2me.com  What do you think? Tell us in the comments below Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $100 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson.

The best basketball player I've seen is me. It was your video. But I think we could still see it. And the boy mad at you. You couldn't pass the ball. You had no time to. Hey, are we taping this? You had no time to.

Yo. Thank you, O. Thank you. Oh, let me tell you something, O. Thank you, O. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, let me tell you something, O. The man kept y'all in that game.

It was his shots, his effort, and he was flying. I'm telling you. He kept y'all in that game. Oh, you saw the whole game? Thank you, y'all. Not a thought of miss at the end, though. I'll be trying to protect my brother, man. You know that?

Let me tell you something. This is my brother, bro. This is like my big bro, so I'll be trying to protect him. If he had highlights, you'd think he wouldn't have found them. You'd think Murda wouldn't have got them highlights if it was highlights. Now, Murda got

some highlights. They just wasn't taped that day. They wasn't taped. Come on. I was about to say, I got some highlights. I'll be honest with you. We missed the camera earlier. Yeah, we missed the camera. If we got the camera, it would be crazy. It would definitely be crazy I shook a nigga so bad they jumped me after the game

yeah that's true too I remember that that happened I was going crazy that's a fact what I would like to say is thank you for recognizing me being the best basketball player from Harlem that you ever seen in your life.

With your eyes, man. I appreciate that. Thank you. Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Florida, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. It will also match your first deposit up to $100, and you get a special pick when you sign up. Of course, I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby

along with your host Cam, and soon to be Mace. How you doing? What's good, Stat? I'm good. How are you? What's up, now? How was your weekend? It was great. I had a great weekend. How you doing? What's good, Steph? I'm good. How are you? What's up now? How was your weekend? It was great. I had a great weekend. What'd you do? How was yours? It was good. Just went out a little bit. Okay.

You know, it was nice. Okay. Yes. And we are joined with our football analyst, OJ. Uncle O. What's up, Uncle O? What's happening? What's going on?

Everything. I missed you, man. I missed you. I thought I'd see you at my little Friday night haunt, which used to be Thursday and Saturday night. But now that I'm not playing golf on Saturday morning, I go to my spot and you would have liked it. Listen, every time I meet you, it's a great environment.

I'll just leave it at that. The environment's great. But I got to get an itinerary on you because your golf days switch up from your hangout days, and one day you might be at the spot I met you at on Wednesday, but you're going near Sunday. I got to get an itinerary because you're moving around like you're

younger than me. Well, you'd be surprised how many girls got father issues and granddaddy issues. Hey, yo, we're going to go there. I followed and granddaddy issues. Hey, yo, now we going to go there. I followed that granddaddy issue. Now we going to go there.

Oh, I wasn't going to let the cat out the bag. But everywhere I meet, oh, I'm not saying he's with them, but it is some nice ladies in the environments that I meet OJ. And I mean, see, the thing about me, oh, at my age, too, is what I learned is I used to run around. See, I was a CEO and a member of one of the greatest hip-hop groups in history. So we ran around with 40 guys, 30 guys, like all the time. So now I run around when I go to spots. If I go to, let's say, a club.

Let's say if I'm in Vegas, I go to Dre's. And now I surround myself with 10 to 15 to 20 females. It got so crazy one day. So one of my old friends is here, my man Tito, matter of fact. Tito's been with me since the very, very beginning. So we're walking in the club, and like I said, Tito's been around since there's been like 30, 40 of us. And we're walking in the club with about 25 females.

It's four of us and 25 females. And Tito's so confused because he used to 30 niggas running with us every day. He talk about, hey, is all these girls with us? I say, yeah, T, that's how we moving now, man. We did 30 niggas already. We moving 20 girls or better because I like to surround myself with beauty.

He didn't figure it out till late on after about four or five drinks then he understood what was going on and he liked it and I'm not saying he indulged in anything with any other females because he's a happily married man but I'm just saying that he understood where I was coming from well I uh you know i got my buddies uh my two main buddies i run with here mike and mauricio and uh all of my magnets you know they they used to call me bait all my teammates even these guys today they call me bait because they control with me and uh new ladies show up for whatever reason. The ladies show up. So, you know, I mean, what can I tell you? We can do it.

In a nice way, you trying to say you're a pussy magnet? No, you're trying to say. No, I'm not. I like a stimulating conversation. Who's that trying to plug in over there? Who is that trying to plug in over there? Who is that trying to plug in? I? Who is that trying to plug in? I need to close up.

Oh, look at my man. My man is just flying. Whatever you do, he's flying these days. Jetlag, oh. You know what it is? Jetlag. Great jetlag.

Yo, murder. Great jet lag. Yo, murder. So real quick. All I heard was OJ was a coochie magnet. Because you're talking about he bring up. I met O a few places, and there's a lot of girls already talking about his two guys as magnets. He said they used to use him. They used to use him for the girls and all that back when he was playing and all that to get the girls so now the shoes on the other foot

well i didn't say you used to they still do no disrespect whatsoever but it's kind of it's kind of cool why why you're here real quick uh murder because i was playing a little michael jackson you know i probably got myself my own But it's kind of cool while you're here real quick, Murda, because I was playing a little Michael Jackson. I got myself my own little soundtrack before we start recording. And I said, what you know about that? Oh, he said, I know everything about it. I was running around crazy.

I was playing PYT. I said, well, who's your favorite artist? He said, well, if we're going to go favorite artist, I'm going Tupac. I'm from the Bay. I said, oh, I didn't know that you was repping the Bay like this, man. I thought it was Dr. Ruff. I thought it was Messi, Maab, it's Quentin, it's all these. I was into all the Bay guys back in the day.

E-40? What about E-40? All of the Bay guys. E-40? Back in the day. 40 Water, E-40? Yeah about E-40? E-40? Back in the day. 40 water, E-40? Yeah, yeah. What about Matt Dre?

I was in every rapper, everybody that was doing it from the Bay, just like in football. I supported them all. That's what's up, man. Yeah, and at one point or another, despite all the women they had, they used me as bait. Juice, you putting 20 on pump 10.

I ain't gonna hold you, bro. I like this because I've been waiting to talk this shit for a long time. It's a lot of shit. I'm like, before it's over, niggas going to know what a lot of people was doing, man. And we're going to get to that, man. That's a fact.

Well, you know, I spent February, March, and April in Miami. Yeah, in Florida. Yeah, most report a lot of that because it's spring break. And as I told you, you'd be shocked at how many of them girls got granddaddy issues. And I'm all right. I'm all right there. All set. The stats of the world got granddaddy issues.

Before we even get to sports, I want to know, give me an example of a female that had a granddaddy issue that you encountered. Without giving us too much detail. Without a name, without a name. Without a name or giving us too much. Give me a name, you know. Yeah, but how'd it go?

I'm minding my own business. And I'll give a, this one's from New Hampshire. It was one that I liked. So I got to, I liked, so I gotta say I did like her, and it wasn't a fleeting thing. I mean, it lasted at least three days.

And... Oh, you do it three days? Oh, I'm gonna get you that. It was three days. You had to go back to school. Go back to school. And we kind of pink horsepower. He had to go back to school. Go back to school? And we kind of kept on. Oh!

Oh, sent him back to school. Okay, hold on. Where was y'all at? She's from New Hampshire, but where were y'all at? Were y'all in Florida? We were in South Beach. I mean, not South Beach. We were on the beach.

And there's a street called Los Olos Boulevard. Yeah. It's, to me, the best street in america okay clubs bars and good-looking women and a treasured good-looking guys it's right there it goes right to the beach it It runs off the beach, and there's just tons of terrific restaurants, great-looking people. Then at the end, you got the beach. You got the main beach there at Fort Lauderdale, and it's a little crazy there because it's, you know, with me,

you know, the boys get on my case, right? I don't know how to use this language. They call me, they be teasing me, and they call me the dick magnet. And I say, come on, man. I get more girls, I get more girls coming than guys

coming. So we said, let's count. So we started counting. We got to the point where I had, I was up to 78 girls, 420 guys. That's crazy. That ratio is wild. But there were fans. There were all

these fraternities, you know, it's spring break, all these guys down there and they're all football fans. So that's what that was about, you know. So basically, you're trying to tell me is, oh, when I want to go out and get some girls, bring you with me. Yeah, well, if you want some fresh new girls, you know what I mean? Okay, say no more.

They love Uncle O. Okay, OJ's been outside in Miami. The more you know Miami the more you know you're going viral I'm letting you know that okay granddaddy issues is the new one granddaddy issues as well okay well I'm happy you had a great

time in Miami but let's get into football the Jaguars had a tough 31 point loss to the 49ers so thoughts on the Jaguars loss and then how dopoint loss to the 49ers. So thoughts on the Jaguars' loss, and then how do you feel about the 49ers right now? OJ first. Well, you know, the 49ers let me down the last few weeks, and you guys are going to dog me about this.

But after what happened to Baltimore today and Cincinnati today, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Cam, about Cincinnati. Well, good to know you. Don't be But... Yeah, don't be sorry for them. Not yet. And, you know, every week it looks like somebody else is the best team in football. Now that

the Niners, you know, they got Debo back and people don't understand how important Debo is to that offense. Even when he's not doing a lot, because he can do so much, the defense has to worry about him and has to put extra guys on him. And he was in that offense today, and you saw what that offense did. When Deebo's there and now getting Chase Young to help with the pass rush, that defense, that defense was unbelievable.

I had a problem today because I have my quarterback in fantasy is Lawrence. Right. And my actually top running back scored for me this year's ETN. So I had to make a choice and I had the 49ers defense, but I didn't run them. I ran Pittsburgh and I ran my Lawrence and Etienne. I'm telling you, Etienne, Barkley,

Lawrence, none of them scored as high together, total, as high as the 49ers defense. And I think, barred injury, this is a 49er team that you're going to see in the Super Bowl. Oh my goodness.

Now you're ready to put them back in the Super Bowl. You're ridiculous. They are back, man. What are you talking about? I knew you were going to say that. Because you saw McCaffrey back. Now you got Purdy back. What are you talking about? I knew you was going to say that. Because you saw McCaffrey back. Now you got Purdy back.

You think you got all the pieces. The beating. Oh, but it's not enough. It's not enough, O. That's not enough. What are they missing? What are they missing? Well, what I will say is to agree with O a little bit.

I was saying that to myself like, yo, because Deebo came back.bo's back he didn't have he didn't have a great game today but just with him being on the field i think it makes a difference for the comfortability of a whole team uh when everybody's there they look great man but this is football oh everybody may not be there every week that's the whole thing if somebody's missing or what so that's the excuse you're gonna get you're gonna get to the playoffs and deborah mccaffrey's hurt and look you can say that that's the reason they may lose but that's football somebody may not be there every week you know what i wanted to bring up to you oh is that how mccaffrey uh touchdown street ended right after he broke that record.

It seemed like he just wanted to break your shit and said that I'm cool. As soon as he broke that record, though, the streak stopped. Well, as I said, records are not monuments to people. They're goals. And a lot of people, once they get close to it, and I'm sure he didn't think about it until he got close to it and they started writing about it. Once they start writing about it, you become aware of it

and you're shooting for it. You know, as I told you last week, I took a lot of pride, even though you never hear anybody talk about it. Gale Sayers was my favorite player. I mean, my all-time favorite player. And I really wanted to break his touchdown record, which I did. At the time, it was 22 and I got 23. But trust me, once I got to 15 and 16, I was pointing for that 22.

I wanted to get it. I was aware of it. I didn't need the media to tell me. I was aware of it because I was aware of virtually everything that was Gale Sayers. That's sort of what happened. I'm sure he was reading as he was passing trying to think some of the guys he was passing getting close to me. He ended up, you know, he added in and said, not only him, but the coach and his teammates. You know, they want to see you break those records. And I'm sure they want to see him break that record.

And once it's broken, what are you shooting for? I don't know. Yo, do you think just after he broke it he just took his his foot off the gas and just there was no reason to keep going no he was playing hard today i mean i don't think he had a whole lot of the opportunity is i mean they scored 30 some points it was a surprise to me that he didn't score today but once again i i'm sure that the coaches when guys are getting close to those type of records the coaches become aware of it i remember um i had a i had a record for most yards in a in a game you know i think it was 273 and somebody it might have

been walter payton was getting close to it in a game. Well, they had won the game and he was out of the game. But when the PR guy came down and told him that he was like 20 yards behind breaking that record, they put him back in the game and he ended up breaking the record. I think Dickerson ended up breaking it also. But Dickerson's effort was in the heat

of trying to win the game. He didn't go back in the game to break the record, you know. But I would say you don't play for records. If you play to win, win or not, records will fall if you got, you know, if you got the skills. Yeah, and last question before I kill a goal. Which one are you most surprised by jacksonville breaking their streak or by um 49ers winning no i'm not surprised with with debo back in the addition of chase young

that the 49ers won i was surprised about how you know i on, 37-3? I didn't think anybody could hold Jacksonville to three points. So I think I was a little surprised about how dominant they were in winning the game. I was more surprised that Cleveland beat Baltimore and certainly surprised that Houston beat Cincinnati. We'll get to that. We'll get to those games in a minute. What I will say is this, though.

I'm glad you brought that up because them with Chase Young is closer to the 85 beers that you were talking about. That's getting them a little closer. I'm not saying they're the 85 beers, but the addition of Chase Young is a big deal, and I will say that. Look, all phases of the game today, the 49ers look – look, this is what I have to say about the 49ers, a couple things. 49ers look great.

Kittles had three receptions, 116 yards, a touchdown. Deebo, like I said, didn't have a great game. Brock Purdy looks great when everybody's there. The thing about the 49ers is, though, when everybody's not there and it's not guaranteed that everybody's not going to be there. You can say that about everything. Well, good. We're going to say it about...

Well, look, at the end of the day... Leave my 49ers alone. Let's say that about you. You think the show is the same when you're not here? Oh, what you think? Do you think the show is the same? I enjoy not here? Oh, what you think? Do you think the show is the same? I enjoy being here. No, no, I'm saying, no.

The reaction I get on the street, people like to hear. They like the show. So, you know, the people like it, I like it. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Oh, my point is this. I'm relaying it to the 49ers. It's a great vibe. It may be better to people when you hear, right?

Yeah. I like to think so. That's the answer I was looking for. That's what I was thinking for. As far as the Jaguars are concerned, look, they're still leading their division. They had an off game. Not scoring any touchdowns is disturbing.

But look, yeah, that's disturbing. But look, they're still leading their division. I think they make the playoffs this year. Just ran into a 49ers team that had the full squad and they was ready for. Yeah. The Texans took a 30-27 victory over the Bengals with rookie quarterback C.J. Stroud.

So how do you feel about the Bengals losing O.J. first? The fuck you looking at? What the fuck is you looking at? The fuck is you looking at, bro? I almost missed my flight getting here. Yo, what is you looking at? Getting here to tell you about this. What is you looking at, man? Yo, what is you looking at?

Go ahead. Go ahead. Actually, I can't wait to talk about it, to be honest with you. Yeah, go ahead, O. Everybody was surprised. I mean, what is it? D'Amico Ryans, the coach, he's got that team playing, you know, on all cylinders.

The defense is playing. I mean, they gave up some points to Cincinnati, but Cincinnati scores on everybody. But that quarterback, C.J. Strode, is it? C.J. Strode. That it? C.J. Strode. That man should have been the first guy drafted ahead of Young, it turns out. And he is preemptive. To me, I don't care what happens from this point on.

That guy's rookie of the year. He does not play like a rookie. That kid has got game, and the team believes in him. They've got a couple of guys nobody ever heard of. Nico, whatever his name is. All these guys are stepping up, catching the ball, running the ball.

Ryan's been a great defensive player himself. He's got that defense playing like he used to play. That team is a big surprise. At this point, you've got to think they could make the playoffs. Cincinnati, I was surprised. I really was.

I mean, I thought Cincinnati's defense would teach the kid a lesson, but they got taught. All right, Mason. I want to hear what you got to say. Well, no, I'm going last. Yeah. You got to hear what you got to say well no I'm going last you got here late I want to hear how you explain this one go ahead

I mean your guy did pretty well your guy did pretty well I mean he came to play he definitely came to play I mean when I look at when I look at let's start with Burroughs, right? So he got 347 yards.

I always make this note that the first quarterback to 225 yards normally win the game. I'm starting to pay attention to that. I think the statisticians need to watch me because I'm on to something. to that, I think the statisticians need to watch me because I'm on to something. And then when I looked at Cam's guy, he had two touchdowns, two

interceptions, sacked four times. I mean, it's a lot I could say, but I'm going to let you talk a little bit. It sounds like you just got some stats so you don't have anything else to say. No, I do have something to say. Say what you're going to say. He just proved he's no Pat. No, the point is this.

If they had about a minute and some change left, maybe two minutes, he put the ball in the guy's hands in the end zone. No, he dropped the pass. I guess you didn't see the game. No, I did. I'm just saying the interceptions is what caused the game. No, regardless of anything, in the fourth quarter, with a minute and some change, maybe two minutes

and some change left, they was at the 15, 16-yard line. He threw the ball, and the guy dropped the pass. There's no other quarterback, Pat Mahomes, of course. More dropped passes. The ball was in this guy's hands. Tyler, let's call him out. What's the nigga name? Tyler Boyle. Tyler Boyle's call him out. What's the nigga name? Tyler Boyle.

Tyler Boyle need to drop an album. This is why you got niggas talking to me crazy up here. You get what I'm saying? You got niggas talking to him crazy. You got niggas. They dropped the ball with a minute and some change left to win the fucking game and wouldn't have to go into overtime.

So, I agree it was interceptions, but CJ Stroud threw two interceptions. What I will say is this. There's no excuse. The Bengals lost. That's the most interesting division to me in football right now because Pittsburgh is playing good. Baltimore, Cleveland won today, which we'll get to.

And look, the Bengals are still one game out of it, even though that they lost. But what I think the biggest story is what OJ was saying is that we have to, and somebody must have said something on the page or something. I don't know what we said about the Texans. Maybe it's one of them shits where me and Mace was like, oh, we're not watching the Texans. Yeah, and it was early in the season.

We talked about the quarterbacks, the rank and the rookie quarterbacks, so now they're bringing it back up. Right. We need to stop. And, look, we're not one of those people that act like we're not wrong when we're wrong. At least I'm not. I can't speak for other people.

Yeah, you can't. Yeah. So the point being is, look, because of the Texans' history over the last years since before shout out to my nigga dray johnson since since he left it's just been downhill deshaun watson leaves they while receiver goes to arizona then listen it's just been a damn mess over there with the massages and all of that so the point being is that we probably need to start paying more attention to the Texans. C.J. Strout is doing his thing.

And like I said, we may have been talking spicy about him, but that's going to stop. And now the microscope is on you because the Texans are back in the conversation and they might make the playoffs. But what I want to say to O.J. and what I want to say to Mace is that no matter what happened today, Ohio won.

Oh, my goodness. Which school did C.J. Stroud go to? Yeah, you're right. Regardless of anything, we won today. We didn't lose. So Ohio still won no matter what happened. Another one. That's how you want to look at it.

Another one for Ohio. Okay, man. Okay, man. That's how you want to look at it, baby. If that's what you're talking about, that's how you want to look at it. That's how you want to look at it. Oh, that's a fact. What other way could you look, though?

Hey, but Cleveland won. That's another it. Oh, that's a fact. What other way could you look, bro? Hey, but Cleveland won. That's another Ohio. Yeah, yeah. Hey, yo, listen, man. Listen, man, you go to power rankings. You know, me and Mase have our little Mahomes-Burrow thing, so that's why I tried to come at you. But power rankings has Patrick Mahomes number one.

Yeah. And Joe Burrow number two. Yeah, it's good. And now you're comparing him to CJ. No, I'm not comparing him to CJ. You said he had two interceptions. No, I'm not comparing. He did.

I'm not comparing him to CJ. I'm saying that Ohio won. Okay. Regardless, shout out to Ohio State, all my people there in Columbus, man. You heard that though, right? What did I say? I said that he had two interceptions? When I said he had two interceptions, you said, yeah,

and CJ had two interceptions. So that's a comparison. No, that's a fact. I know. This is not really a comparison. We reading stats off. I'm just telling you, I'm just reading the stats. And at the end of the day, I'm just saying Ohio once,

because y'all thought y'all were going to get me. And y'all wasn't.all were going to get it. You're trying to find a way to spin it. And there's no way to spin it. No matter who won that game, Ohio one was a winner. Shout out to all my people on 21st street, North side, East side. You know what it is, Columbus. Alumni right here, baby.

Alumni. That was baby. Alumni. That was good. I will say, yeah, we were definitely wrong about C.J. Stroud. He's been playing exceptionally well. No, we weren't wrong. We were wrong. No, you were wrong. No, you were wrong, too, because you definitely said Bryce Young. Like, you said other quarterbacks.

We were wrong about him. He's been playing exceptionally well. And I think the argument for him. He was at 500 yards last year. Yeah um he actually has the second most passing yards this season so he's been playing great i definitely think he should be at the top for rookie of the year and we'll see what happens especially beating joe burrow in his 10th career pro game exceptional see i hate that i hate that i hate that and and then listen so as it's always Columbus before any other city in Ohio. I love Cleveland.

I love Akron. I love Youngstown. I love Cincinnati, Dayton, et cetera, Springfield, et cetera. But this man had an opportunity to win the game. Boy, boy, boy. Yo, boy. See the shit I got to deal with, boy? You should drop an AP.

Yeah, you keep dropping shit. You fucking now. Now we got Stats doing the job. But I got to hear this. Going head to head, he beat Joe Burrow. Because you dropping shit. This is what we got to deal with in Cincinnati for the time being. Don't worry about it.

But shout out to CJ Stratford. We apologize for not recognizing. And Mace won't apologize because he said that he did. I will take full responsibility for my behalf. I don't want to say Mace said he didn't say it. I'm going to say we were wrong and since you're doing such a good

job, there's microscopes on you. Yeah, don't start acting like the Lions did. They wanted all this attention and then we put the microscope on them, and then the next week, they fell apart. So we'll see what happens. Okay. The Giants' losing streak continues with a

49-17 loss to the Cowboys. So the question that I'm asking first is, can you foresee the Giants winning another game? OJ first. The Giants are in trouble, especially at quarterback. They were in trouble at quarterback. I still,

I think even with Jones at quarterback, they was in trouble at quarterback right now. I mean, you know, people may not say it, but you can, you got a lottery going. You got a number of teams, Chicago being maybe the main one because they own Carolina's number one pick. But they're all after Cam, USC, Caleb Williams.

Everybody wants this guy. He'll be the first guy drafted. He won't win the Heisman this year. You've got Chanik and the boy from Oregon. But you've got about three or four guys that will probably be ahead of him. He may not even be invited when they invite four guys to the Heisman thing in New York,

but he will be the first guy in the draft. Chicago could get the first two guys in the draft, the way they're playing, because they're not going to win. I don't think they may not win another game there. They've won two. So they may get both Carolina's pick and their own pick, and I'm pretty sure they're going to take Caleb Williams and Harrison Jr. from Ohio State.

Yeah, yeah. I'm glad you know we got somebody in the husband race man yeah my man marvin harrison jr killing killing but yes uh uh so my point is uh you do reach a point don't get me wrong i think everybody tries to win but i think some of these teams will reach a point when you got some exceptional player like Caleb coming out and like Harrison coming out. Uh, you know, they may, they,

you know, they may start half stepping. Oh, can I say something real quick? Yes, please. The question was, was a giant is going to win again,

bro. Like, yo, Oh, did you, did you, did not answer. I get everything. All I said is, like, yo, oh. Okay. With all that I said.

I get everything you said. With all that I said. Yes. I don't think so. Okay. Thank you. Man, we was on that for a long fall, though. Damn.

Titanic, though. Well, I'm trying to tell you a little bit of why they may not win. No, no. And listen, that was very important because everything, I didn't know that the teams you said had each other's draft picks. So you're basically saying you don't think they're going to win, but let me rephrase the question. Do you think they're going to lose on purpose?

You think they're tanking? I don't think, see, you know, everybody say teams tank. You may recall the guy in Miami suing the NFL now. The owner was trying to get him to tank, but he wouldn't tank. You know why? Because they wanted Tua. Everybody thought Tua was a guy, and they were allegedly tanking, but he wouldn't tank.

He ended up getting fired, and he's suing the NFL because of it. They were allegedly tanking, but he wouldn't tank. He ended up getting fired and he's suing the NFL because of it. So I don't, you know, I think you can't say you're tanking because you got players out there. The players aren't trying to tank. The coach could help the tank. But how'd that work

out for Miami though? They got two. They ended up being Miami, though? They got two of them. It ended up being great for Miami. They got two of them. Now they looking good. But they didn't tank. That's the question. He didn't go number one, but they didn't tank.

He wasn't number one, but I don't think he was the first guy. The whole thing is that whether he wanted to tank or not, them niggas was sinking. They wasn't shit. They was trash. Whether they wanted to act like they wasn't tanking, he talked about, oh,. Them niggas, they wasn't shit. They was trash. Whether they wanted to act like they wasn't tanking. He talking about, oh, no, I know exactly what you're talking about. Oh, they wanted me to tank.

You know, the owners talking about, we don't know what the fuck you're talking about. They just act like he was crazy. And I get it. I know everything that you're talking about. Point being is, whether he was trying to tank or not, it looked like he was tanking. Shit ain't work out because at the end, he was going to get fired anyway. So he started blowing the spot up about tanking,

but they ended up getting two, and now the Miami looks pretty decent. What I'll say about this game is this. I let Mace talk about it because I'm not going to talk about it. Giants ain't shit. They ain't got no cool. Yeah, I don't talk about the Cowboys. Yeah, I don't talk about the Cowboys

and the Giants ain't shit, and now Dak all of a sudden will have 400 yards on a team that don't got a quarterback. Fuck and the Giants saying shit, and now Dak all of a sudden will have 400 yards on the team that don't got a quarterback. Fuck out of here, bro. I'm cool. Only team in Dallas we talk about is the Mavericks. Yes, sir.

I'm cool on that. Okay. The Browns beat the Ravens 33-31. How do you feel about the Ravens losing? OJ first. Well, I was surprised. I didn't think the Browns could score 30-something points against the Ravens. You know, I said last week I thought the Browns may have the best defense in the league,

but they gave up 33 points that day. So that doesn't help that argument. But I didn't think, I really didn't think that Cleveland could score, you know, 33 points. I really didn't think they could. So I was really surprised that they were able to beat, you know, Baltimore. But as I've said in the past, when teams are in the same division and they play each other, the records almost don't mean anything. You're going to, especially that second game.

Now, look, what happened to the Giants? I'm sorry, that goes against, because I think they lost the first game 40 to nothing, and then they lost this game with a 40-something to seven. But generally speaking, when teams in the same division, no matter who wins the first game, that second game is always much tougher. You know the guys you know the uh the players you're going against and uh you pretty much know their offense you know the defense so uh it becomes who gives the the best effort who gets the breaks and cleveland certainly did today because they were they were getting swallowed up there in the beginning, but then they kept working.

And, boy, I got to say, Deshaun made a couple of key plays. He made a couple of key plays for them, and that's why they paid him that, what, half a billion dollars or whatever, quarter of a billion dollars. They kind of indicated, I mean, at least sort of showed what they wanted from him when they decided to pay him that money because he did make some key plays to help win that game. So, oh, according to what you're saying, based upon what you just said, at what point is he like a star player? And what point are you like just managing the game? Because with everything you said, he still only had about like 200 yards. But they won.

You can't count Purdy's yards because it really doesn't do much. You want to talk about yards? Look at Lamar Jackson. He's having games. I got a buddy who got him in fantasy. He's pissed because he's having these games where his stats are nothing but they're winning.

You can't complain. They're winning, but his stats are kind of sorry. It's what you do when you do it. Deshaun made some key plays, a couple of scrambles at a real key time in the game and got him first downs. And like Lamar, he makes great passes,

but he don't get a lot of yards passing, but it's the passes he make at key moments in the game that matter. What I'll say about this game is this, that I called this game the half a billion game. You got two quarterbacks that got quarter billion dollars, one more than a quarter billion dollars, and this is the half of billy gay who was going to show up yeah and what happened when i looked at is this is that the

ravens this season they've been up three times and blew their lead three times and that's what caused them their three losses they don't finish off like lamar jackson i believe he was like one for seven with 11 yards in the fourth in the fourth quarter and Deshaun Watson was seven for seven and he showed this is why this half of Billy is here you have to play when the game's on the line and like you said oh they they done what he Deshaun showed up when it counted what I think about Deshaun Watson is this it's kind of like and I'm not comparing them just yet to Joe Burrows, and most of the time with football, people get injured as the season goes on.

Joe Burrows, Deshaun Watson started off the season pretty much injured, and I think they're getting stronger as the season goes on. That's just my opinion. But I just think it was a dual. Fourth quarter, Deshaun Watson outplay Jackson and when you don't call the Billy boys this is what they come to see what you're going to

do in crunch time when the game's on the line now as far as the points is concerned you got the number one offense playing the number two defense I mean pardon me the number one defense playing the number two defense so I'm surprised even one of them got that many points but that's what you want to see who could beat the best defense. So I give the,

I give the game ball to Deshaun Watson today. Yeah. And to think about how he came back in the fourth quarter, I think that as even another wrinkle in the whole thing to say that he got more, he got, they was down 14 and they won a game in the fourth quarter. That's why they pinned.

Yeah, right. I'm sorry. No, you're all good. So let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. This afternoon, the Knicks will play the Celtics. Underdog fantasy has Jason Tatum at 26.5 points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Lower.

I'm going to go lower. he's averaging 27 points right now um against the knicks though he averages 22.7 a game i'm gonna go lower lower also use code cam well underdog fantasy if you want to win some money i'm telling you against the knicks, he ain't that spicy, and he only averaging 27 points right now. So go low. It doesn't really look good. I can't tell you he's not going to have a breakout game, but history tells us that he's not going to do it. Underdog fantasy, use code Kim, put up $5, they'll give you $10,

and win a bunch of money. I'm telling you, it's been working for everybody all year. There you go. Okay. Jalen Brown is at 5 and a half rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? I'm going lower. He's against the Celtics.

He averages three rebounds per game, 3.7 rebounds per game. So lower, definitely lower for his career, not just with the Knicks for his career overall. I'm going to go higher. Okay. And Jalen Brunson is at five assists. Do you have him higher or lower? Lower.

Jalen Brunson. He's going to shoot the ball. He's not going to have assists. He's averaging four assists, so I'm going to go lower as well. Yeah. Make sure to download the Underdog Fantasy app, and you can make your picks too. We are joined back with our football analyst, OJ.

Okay. So there are some rumors that Bill Belichick and the Patriots will part at the end of the season. They currently have a 2-8 record. So, one, could you see this happening? And if they do part, what do you see Belichick doing next? OJ first. Well, I don't see him going to another team I think he'd leave the game uh if that was the case but from what I know about Belichick uh Belichick is not gonna go out a loser I think think he's going to try to do at least one more season and try to turn things around.

He has been a winner his whole career. He's a competitor. And let me tell you, he's one of the nicest guys I've ever met. You know, you see him on the sideline. When he's not on the sideline, he's a pretty congenial, nice guy. i had to interview him once when he was a coach of the cleveland browns and me and my producer we went uh to his house in cleveland and it was a snowstorm i mean it was crazy and when we got to his place his then woman that he was living with i don't know if she was his wife i think she might have been his wife at the time. They couldn't have been nicer. I mean, he showed me a bedroom. He said, no, you got to stay here. Don't drive to the airport. Don't fight that weather. I mean, you couldn't have been nicer. I mean, and we left anyway. I mean, and we made our flight. That was a

big thing with me to never miss a flight. I guess I had something to do with hurts and running through the airport and all that crap. But this guy was a great guy. I do not see this guy leaving the NFL a loser and this season will be

a losing season for him. And I just don't see him doing that. I think he'll hang around and try to turn it around. He'll make some adjustments. Maybe he won't do the draft. Maybe he won't be the manager of the team, you know,

the general manager. Maybe he'll just be the coach. But I don't, and I don't see Kraft firing him. I just don't see it happening. You want me to go? Yeah, oh, this is not going to be good. It's too much work to do, especially with this team.

He would have to do a lot, especially if he, the people that he's already selected turned out to be a bust. So, I mean, that's, that's, that's asking a lot at this late in the stage with that unit of team that he have. Pack it up, Bill. Pack that shit on up, man. 71 years old, man. Don't stress yourself out.

You should call my nigga OJ and see what you can do when your football career is over. Because you are a football gem. But you're gonna drive yourself crazy trying to get back to where you was at look let me whiz it at your record without tom brady is 82 and 97 pack it up you told you went with mac jones i thought you knew what you was doing you sent cam newton packing it up blamed it on covet and said you was gonna go with mac jones over cam new. Shit not working out for you.

Now what niggas is saying is that you're not a good GM, that you should just be a coach, and you look like that type of guy that says, look, if I can't buy the groceries, don't ask me to cook the food. I don't want you to cook the food. Give me the groceries. I know you want to be the GM. I know you're like, nobody would know Tom Brady without me. I'm the one who—look, you're getting older, nigga. You got to get some young niggas to know what's going on to do that for you,

and you don't look like that type. Now, OJ say you a nice guy and all that shit, but you look real stubborn when it comes to your football team. And I can't blame you. You know, you coached with Lawrence Taylor. You didn't have that much success when you was with Cleveland. Had a tremendous success when you got to New England. But those days may just be in the past.

I would call my nigga Juice, Uncle O, and girls with these granddaddy issues. You know, it sounds like a lovely life. What is it, Osala Boulevard down there in Fort Lauderdale? Los Olis. Los Olis, baby. Los Olis. That got granddaddy. That been on Los Olis. Yo, but. I think you're a tremendous coach, but the thing about it also,

a lot of people don't know what to do after their life coaching, because they've been doing this so long that they've been going home and they're like, Hey, you want to go grocery shopping? Hey, how about we go? And niggas like pushing a shopping cart like, yo, I'm getting in a minivan right now.

Niggas are sitting at home yelling at the TV because they're so used to seeing plays being called every Sunday. You have to talk to some people who have a successful or not necessarily successful, a happy life after football. Because Bill, Bill, remind me of my man british you don't look happy unless you unhappy you want the people that gotta be mad to be happy so hopefully you find some some something after football that makes you happy me personally i don't think bill going to motherfucking place bill is one of the people like i gotta win one more time one one more

i have to win one more and i don't more. I have to win one more, and I don't know what's going to happen with him. You think he's competing with Tom? Yes. Yes. It's like that Kobe and Shaq. Yes, he's definitely competing with Tom, and if he say he isn't, he's lying, because when Tom Brady first left, that was all people were talking

about. We didn't have our show yet, but that was the time. Who's going to do better? Bill Belichick or Tom Brady? Bill Belichick, Tom tom brady belichick tom brady tom won the super bowl on that first year he got out of there yeah so tom brady already solidified his career after belichick now tom retired he like already did what i had to do but i think in bill's mind he has to prove to himself not other people more himself that I could win without Tom Brady because so many people told me that I couldn't. And he got to prove it to Tom when they go golfing.

Yeah, I mean, I really don't think Tom hang with niggas. I think Tom, they're like, yo, you tried to go out my back and get Garoppolo. Look at Garoppolo now. Look at Garoppolo. You really thought that was you going to take my spot, nigga? You're out of pocket, man. Wes Welker. All these stories you hear about Bill Belichick are not necessarily good

stories when they leave. Now, they don't shit on Bill because Bill gave him the opportunity, but it's a bunch of receivers that Tom Brady had over the years. Even Gronk has said a little slick shit about Bill, but they don't necessarily diss Bill, but they'll throw little shots in there. I don't think they're going to play golf, in my opinion. They might, but I don't know.

Tom might want to play golf if he doesn't win another championship. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're inviting him over to just ask him how was the season. Yeah, yeah, but that's the thing. What are you doing in the future? That's why them shits digger be, oh, you being funny? Like, yo, you a funny nigga. So, yeah.

So we've talked about players and we've talked about coaches, but we're going to pivot real quick to fans. Panthers fans are planning a march in protest of their team losing this season, so they've only won one game this season so far. An official statement from one of the organizers says, we love our team, but it's time to demand better performance on the field. Let's show our passion peacefully and push for change. So thoughts on this March idea?

Hold on. I'll go first. Niggas doing a peaceful protest on the Panthers. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. A peaceful protest on the Panthers is wild, yo. Because, you know, and I'm not going to say no names or start no feelings or nothing like that. protests on the Panthers is wild, yo. I'm not going to say no names or stir up no feelings

or nothing like that, but this is when it's really a crisis with people getting together. People start protesting. They pick up signs. They picket signs and all this other shit. What I am telling you, though, is I'm very intrigued to see how this goes

because for them to get to this point, the frustration has to be at an all-time high. Who set up the protest? We would like to get you on the show. The person who set this protest up, please hit us on the Is What It Is page or our email. We would like to know how this came about and how it's going to go moving forward

because I'm very interested to see how this goes. Like I said, we're going to have a peaceful protest I'm very interested to see how this goes. Niggas said we're going to have a peaceful protest. Yeah, like did y'all give them a warning? Did they give them a warning? This is the warning. Oh, if niggas don't start winning. They won one game. Oh, go ahead.

It ain't going to do any good because this is a team that needs a lot of help, and they trade away a lot of their draft choices. They could have the first pick this year, but they traded it away. Chicago has it. Because, you know, they wanted to get it. Who did they get in return? Bysha.

Oh, my goodness. What I would say about this always. And Bryce is not bad. You know, you can't dog Bryce until they get some players around him and until they get an offensive line. Their offensive line sucks. They ain't my nigga CJ in Texas, I'll tell you that. My point is they can't turn that team around.

Like you say, Belichick right now needs too much help in New England to turn them around, even though I think they got a pretty decent defense if they had some offense. But Carolina needs a lot. They need a lot. And they've traded away their capital. They traded away a number of their draft choices. What I want to say is this.

a number of their draft choices. What I want to say is this. And I know, and it's a peaceful protest, which I respect. What up, bitches? Hey, baby. Yo. What I'll say is this.

Is that I understand it's a peaceful protest and it should be. but the ass whipping sometime may help shit out gotta kick one of them niggas asses down there for losing my accident jump one of them niggas is what you're saying i'm not promoting that i don't want to say i'm promoting that let a linebacker get jumped at a bar randomly like let a let a random cornerback get smacked for no reason walking down the street. That shit may change up. Now, I'm not saying that's what to do. I'm absolutely totally against that. But sometimes lessons not learned in blood don't get learned at all.

Well, it has happened with kickers. It's happened with kickers who've blown games. I knew when I got to Buffalo, this guy, Boots Lustick, missed a game-winning kick, and they got him in a bar, and he never played again. He never played

again, man. They kicked his butt. So that's what you said. He never played again. You ain't gonna jump on no defensive end or no you know offensive tackle you ain't gonna jump on none of them boys on the street you pick the guys that you can whoop

and you probably can whoop most of the kickers so those are the guys that get it oh hey pause man them niggas drilling out there you don't know what they kick a nigga and they calf my nigga it's a whole different era. Oh, they'll attack a defensive lineman, man. I'm telling you.

Right in the calf. You don't know these niggas with these Pusheisti masks. I'm going to send you some links. Pusheisti masks outside. No, that side shit don't matter no more. Pause. Oh, you fucking up the town business, man. Outside the line.

Yeah, but listen. So basically, O, just to ask you, because you mentioned the kicker and position pause doesn't really matter to me. Are you suggesting the ass whipping? Well, I don't suggest it. O thinking brass knuckles. Look at that. O from that era.

I've seen kickers blow games. I've seen kickers. We've seen the last couple of weeks kickers blow games. I've seen kickers. We've seen the last couple of weeks kickers blow games. And, you know, if I was him, I wouldn't be hanging out in any bars, especially in light of the attitude of this country right now. People are looking to get in fight. Yeah, who's that in light of where the country is? Niggas said stay out the bars, niggas.

People are fighting over everything now. So a very different topic. Former NFL star Earl Thomas' ex-wife and her new boyfriend reportedly stole $1.9 million from him. His ex's wife's boyfriend was tried and arrested for identity theft, forgery, money laundering, credit card fraud, computer fraud, and bank fraud charges, and he stole from his retirement account.

So, thoughts on the situation? Mm-mm-mm. Yeah, well. Oh, look, the rest. That must have been good. She must have been good. She must have been good. She must have been good because obviously she was a cook.

And he married her. Okay, man. That's on him. That's on him. So listen, I'm glad we brought this up, O, because we didn't have a chance to bring it up because it wasn't really football related. But we're going to start, know when we when you're here right and and it wasn't necessarily still i

want to get back to this because uh we had a female on our show uh joe smith's wife he was mad she was on only fans and she didn't tell him about it, but her back was against the wall, so she says, and she needed to get money to pay for their bills in the house, because he wasn't making any money. I'm asking you this because of, and she used to be a former pornography star, an adult film star, before he married her, but he knew that when he married her. The reason I'm bringing this up is because I just heard what you said about what he said. He said it must have been good to get him to do that. Did you hear about this story?

No, I didn't. Okay, okay. We'll leave it alone. I'm not sure if you heard about it. I haven't. Look, man, what I want to say is this. It's a lot of scorned females, and I'm not sure how their relationship ended,

but do we have any more info on that? Or just know, we just know she stole shit. She stole, he was arrested. No, but how did the relationship end with him? We don't know. I can find it. When you say he was arrested, you're telling me her new guy was arrested.

They was together? While they was together, she pulled a pistol out of him. The new guy kind of showed him how to orchestrate getting Earl's money. What I would say is this. One other producer for the show, Bob, our social media guy also, he just informed me three years ago that she pulled a pistol out on him when they were together at the um at a baltimore ravens game i would say this my personal opinion is she think he pussy like yo my nigga she pull a pistol out on you now she

taking your shit whenever she get a chance why she even got that much info I understand it's your wife but listen man the end of the day when the shit is over you have to put a certain lock and key on all your shit everything I just think she think he pussy pull a pistol out now

her new boyfriend is robbing him identity theft she definitely knew she could get away with it she think he pussy. Pull a pistol out, now her new boyfriend is robbing him, identity theft. She definitely knew she could get away with it. Yeah, like, look, and listen, it was the right thing to do. But look, he said, call the police. I know how to handle this. I know how to handle this.

That may be another indicator that he's scared of her. Yeah. Because that was his first. Well, you got to keep your finances separate. I've always felt that the easiest thing to do is keep your finances separate. You should never, especially if the other person isn't really contributing to whatever that pot is in the bank,

you should always keep your finances separate. Okay. Oh, but what do you think she thinks of her ex-boyfriend that she stole off? What do you think her mental is like, what she thinks of him, her new boyfriend? Yes, psychologically. Like, think about this scenario. I'll lay the scenario out. He moved on, man.

He got arrested. she moved on. We know that. No. If he was arrested, she don't have nothing to do with it and she's moved on and she's looking for you. No, no, no. I think you're misunderstanding the situation. She's with her new boyfriend.

She convinced her- She got arrested. No. No, she convinced the new boyfriend to go rob her old husband which was in the NFL and he got arrested yes the new boyfriend got arrested

and she gone she's gonna claim she had nothing to do with it he hosted it I heard y'all things correct y'all didn't hear y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all.

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I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. I heard y'all. Listen, man. Look at this girl. Look at her history. Let me tell you something, man. She's moved on. Let me tell you something.

She's not sitting in the court while that man is being prosecuted. She gone. Any girl that's trying to get over on me, I got this nigga, my friend. His name is Duke the God. He don't believe nothing. If a girl come around me and tell me she like me, I'm turning the radar on her and they Duke sniff out. Does she really like me?

Because he don't believe nothing. Cam, she don't really like you you know why she's here yo duke she wears size seven you believe that's a size seven look at her foot she's lying about her foot size she wears a size eight nothing's gonna get past what else is she lying about yeah so therefore anybody who comes in my direction i'm putting calling duke with the riff radar he go riff everything's riff. One day I'm going to bring him on the show when I think he won't say something crazy enough to get us canceled. I'm going to bring him on the show. I ain't worried about

no girls trying to get me. I got that nigga right there. He don't believe shit. Bring him to Summerlin one of these days. You met him? Oh, I bought him. You met him? Oh, that day. Oh, that's who that was? Wait, did I? I don't know. Yeah. Oh, I bought him. I bought him. You met him? Oh, that day. Oh, that's who that was? Wait, did I?

I don't know. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, it was me, him, and my assistant that day, the girl. The first day I came to get the,

yeah, that was him. Yeah. He was quiet that day. He probably didn't believe you was OJ. He's one of them niggas. Yeah. He doesn't believe nothing.

That wasn't OJ. You sure that was OJ? he's one of them niggas nah i look like oj but you believe it yeah nice yeah yeah that was some you met him already well to oj's point i definitely agree she is gone which is crazy because she definitely gave her new boyfriend all of his information and she's facing no punishment. She gone. She gone. People just got to be careful with, you know, where they decide to. She done moved on.

Yeah. To what she's done. Right. Okay. So switching gears to basketball real quick. The Lakers beat the Suns 122 to 119 for their in-season tournament. The Suns and the Lakers currently have the same record. So thoughts on the game and them having the same record. What I'll say about the game is that I watched that game.

And, you know, it's a few things. When I watched previous sports shows before we started doing this show, it's like I used to be like, why do they talk about this so much? Why do they talk about that so much? Now I see why LeBron James is a topic a lot, or not the Cowboys here, but LeBron James in certain places. LeBron James, I watched that game. Nobody wanted to win more than LeBron James that night,

on his team or against his team. Now, Kevin Durant, that's my man. He's always going to do Kevin Durant. He had 36 to 38 points. I'm not sure one or the other, but I'm talking about on a nigga face pause. LeBron James just wanted to fucking win.

And what LeBron is realizing at this age is because he says it after the game, every game, he's like, yeah, all y'all acting crazy saying I shouldn't have passed the ball to Cam Reddish when we lost the other day. You see, I passed it to him this time and y'all don't know what the fuck y'all talking about so what LeBron James has learned is that I don't care what's going on I'm I'm at war with these guys whether they're good or not good or decent or not decent

I'm gonna have their back and at this age age, he's doing such a phenomenal job. And he played the whole fourth quarter two games in a row. We got these young guys, and not necessarily young. You could be young. You could be mid-20s, early 30s. There's no reason LeBron James should be playing all these fucking minutes for them to win. But that just goes to show the will, the tenacity, the effort,

that how bad he wants to win for me uh the joker's having a great season lucas having an exceptional season joel mb for me right now eight nine games in just because of the will and i'm not sure if they're winning they have a losing record which they probably do um lebron jamesron James is my MVP just off his tenacity, effort, and what he brings to the game. Playing all the minutes in the fourth quarter of the last two or three games, exceptional, man. Much salute to LeBron James.

And my last final word is it's an Ohio thing. That's what we do there. That's what we do. an ohio thing that's that's what we do there that's what we do yo let me start by saying this kevin durant stop laughing with lebron i want to start with that every time lebron makes kevin durant laugh it gets me upset because they lose just go and watch all the tapes whenever he gets to talking to KD on the side, he trying to, you know, Paul, soften him up. I know he had 38, but KD just got to take over the game. I think KD at this point, his legs, Paul, should be a little bit fresher than LeBron's.

And he just, KD, you got to take over the game. And yeah, and I think also if this team, this team wants to be a success, they're going to have to make some major moves. Right now they got a lot of key pieces. This would be a good time to bust some moves, especially with all of the personnel that you can move around because, you know, this team alone will not be standing in the end. I'm willing to put my Chanel pin on it, LeBron.

Y'all will not be standing there when it's all said and done. I don't think or not. Listen, you ain't got no argument with me about that. You said he's your MVP right now? Yes, right now he's my MVP. Yeah, LeBron is balling, LeBron. I mean, categorically, there we go. He's not going to win MVP.

The team with a winning record is going to get MVP. I'm just saying. Yeah. Look, a great question is this, and I don't know. If it has been, it's only been one game. Have we seen Kevin Durant, Bradley Beal, and Devin Booker play together yet? No. Exactly.

It's always somebody hurt. It's always an excuse. Anthony Davis rips hurt. He only played a couple minutes off a game. LeBron James is 39 years old in less than a fucking month, bro. And he's out there looking like hungrier than anybody on the floor. And I'm not saying that people are hungry on the floor, but you see it in his facial expression. You see it in the will to play. This nigga in the floor. And I'm not saying that people are hungry on the floor, but you see it in his facial expression.

You see it in the will to play. This nigga in the lane. This nigga through traffic, bro, the other day. I'm just saying the energy and the effort I'm seeing. Will he win MVP? I doubt it. But first eight or nine games, he has my vote just off being 38 years old and going this hard.

And there'll be 39 in a month. And out of curiosity, O oj i'm just curious would you choose the lakers or the suns which team uh well as the year season goes on uh the suns everything goes to health if the suns are healthy, I have to kind of lean towards the Sun. I cheer for the Lakers. But like he said, LeBron is 39, and I've seen the effort that he's done thus far this year, but can he do that over an 82

game schedule? And it's just a matter of when Davis is going to get hurt. It ain't a matter if he's going to get hurt. It's a matter of time. He's swinging now. He's going to get hurt. So I would have to give them the edge. Hey, look.

Who's your team? I'm from San Francisco. I was about to say, who's your team? I'm a warrior, man. I'm from San Francisco. Don't get me wrong. I cheer for the Lakers. I cheer for the Lakers, man.

I mean, I never saw, unlike somebody on this show, I never saw Jerry West miss a game-winning shot. I'm Michael Jordan for that matter. Unlike somebody on this show. Unlike somebody on this show who I thought was balling. I thought he was balling, and he balled until that last shot. Who you talking about, O? Well, who do you think I'm talking about?

The guy you were mad at. The guy you're still mad at. To this day, O. To this day. I don't think you would have been in the game. From what I can see, from what I can see, if anybody's on the internet, they should look at this. From what I can see, Cam was balling, and y'all wouldn't have been in the game.

Thank you, O. It wouldn't have been no last shot. Oh, you spread your net everywhere, O. He did miss it. Hey, y'all. Oh, listen, man. Let me ask you a question. This is what I'll ask you right here, all right?

And I'm going to end it. I don't know if my staff is going to say, I'm walking out and getting my bag after this. I don't know if my staff is going to say, I'm walking out and getting my bag after this. I don't know the score of the game. I don't have no idea the score of the game you played or anything like that. But I'm going to bring up a game that I've seen some footage of or heard some footage of that you played.

And we talked about it on this show before. Your quarterback was four for 21 with 29 yards, right? You had 276 yards, right? It's fourth down and three on the three-yard line, and y'all down five points. Are you trusting your quarterback to throw it, or are you going to say, give me the ball? Give me the ball.

If you don't get the touchdown, we can live with that because you just had 276 yards and the quarterback had 29 yards. This is me and Mace. Mace is the quarterback. Well, that's right. You wouldn't have been in the game. Mace, y'all wouldn't have been in the game Yo Yo That's crazy

I didn't see that coming I didn't see that set up You were 4 for 21 Nah I wasn't 4 for 21 You was about 41 It wasn't his day He had good games

That wasn't one of them The coach to this day cries when he see me. He say, you know what? You was supposed to be in that game. I played the seniors. That's crazy because I was a sophomore. So how that work? That's crazy.

I'm just telling you what he told me. If you want to be crazy, if you want to be honest with you. Yeah. I'm just telling you what he told me. To be honest with you, if you want to be crazy, if you want to be honest with you. Yeah. Our coach started getting high, so our real coach wasn't even playing. Our coach got addicted to crack that year,

and we was playing with an interim coach. And he was coaching, and then he got suspended, and he was coaching us from the bleachers with another coach on the bench. Yeah. No, that was the second coach so all right cool first coach got got got addicted to crack he probably was on it but the year he recruited me and mace 15 days into the school year not basketball season he couldn't control himself cracks falling out nigga getting high he got kicked out so his man took over and his man that took over was feeling on.

Maybe some girls had some granddaddy issues, but they was too young to have granddaddy issues. He stopped fucking with the students. He got fired. So then we had to deal with Mr. Glatton, who was really the athletic guy. It was a mess. It was a mess.

It was a mess, man. It was a mess. But we made it to the chip. That's all that matters. Oh, thank It was a mess, man. It was a hot mess. But we made it to the chip. That's all that matters. Yo, O, thank you for being here, man. We appreciate you again, man. Thank you, guys. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Always, man.

Amazing. Thanks, OJ, for being here. That's all the time we have for today. Thank you all for watching, and as always, it is what it is.