IT IS WHAT IT IS - DAMAR HAMLIN & AB ARE BEEFIN' ON TWITTER AND HAILEY VAN LITH STANDS UP FOR HER TEAMMATES | S3 EP63

Episode Date: April 1, 2024

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And today we are joined with our analyst, Maurice Claret. Mo what's going on, Mo. You trying to pump up the mighty Yukon Huskies. I see what you doing. It was an amazing weekend. What can I say?

Easter is over, and I'm no longer an expert. April fools. Yeah. April fools. Oh, yeah. Go ahead, Mo. How you feeling today, Mo? Look, my boys back in the Final Four.

So they out in Arizona. If you see me on Twitter, if you see me on Instagram, you know I've been going crazy over them. And if anybody had a chance to see the game, y'all now see why these guys are so serious. And if anybody had a chance to see the game, y'all now see why these guys are so serious. And it was fun to watch. It was the first time I've ever seen these dudes go on a 30-0 run.

First half was close. But at the end of the day, man, my guys went out in the second half. They made their halftime adjustments. And they went on a 30-0 run. And it was phenomenal. I'm happy. And before the game and after the game, they was hitting me up. It was like, yo, bro, we got to see you in Arizona. Last year I missed Houston because my house flooded.

This year, I'm telling you all right now, Dan Toscano, Kimani, Dan Hurley, all my guys, all the players, we in Arizona, baby. Title time. Oh, I can't forget this they got the girls too the girls are in the final four too so you have two teams i don't know if this has ever been done i really don't but to have two teams in the final four is pretty special so title town done before come on please stop that mo just stop it it. Just know it's been done before, and the expert told you, man. Don't play me to keep going through everything I know.

You see what I got? Marnie in my pocket. You see what I'm telling you? But check this out. That's a great thing. I think I'm really interested to see what UConn do. It would be a brilliant thing if they can win both at the same time. We should get into that conversation a little bit later with with the player name page and everything like that.

But what is that? What are we supposed to be talking about? Yeah. So before we get into that, do your job. Yeah. So before we get into that, just to answer Maurice's question first, it looks like the last time it's been the men and women's team in the Final Four 2017 was South Carolina. Oh, OK. Yeah. Expert. That's why the expert is here. So when Cap goes forth, I can in because because that is a kappa too she's she's a she's a she's one what is it called you are the kappa the kappa what are you what are you what are you how do you say the aka what is it alpha kappa alpha so yeah incorporating Alpha, Kappa, Alpha. Oh, yeah.

Incorporating. Incorporating. Kappa, Incorporating. So, yes. Got to make that. Hey, get them fat. So, I did know this thing about, what you call it? I knew this about South Carolina. But, see, that's why they have me here.

Because when you guys get off the rails, you need somebody who knows their stuff. And that's why they have me here because when you guys get off the rails you need somebody who knows their stuff and that's why I'm here so continue to do your part stack because I'm gonna do mine okay well we're gonna start off kind of hot because we got two sports people up here beefing so Damar Hamlin and antonio brown ab aka our previous analyst earlier in the season yeah oh basically there was a tweet on twitter that said comment of fictional characters death that you have not gotten over ab responded posting a picture of Damar Hamlin with the hashtag CTE ESPN. So CTE ESPN just together. That's his, you know, network. Yeah. He tweets a lot of stuff with the hashtag CTE ESPN, just so people are up to speed. Damar saw the tweet and he responded,

you just DM'd me on Monday. guess you playing lame games on twitter with my situation because i ain't dm you back i pray god don't ever let me turn into a burnt out old head like you i used to look up to you damn near shit sad for real for real talk about a clone bring the real ab back there is a little bit more back and forth, but changes in what AB said to DeMar Hamlin. Well, we're not going to go Maurice first because he's filling in for Cam. So

you can't ask Cam, you know, and I'm going to go first today, Mo. We're going to switch it up. Shout out to Cam. Cam, we look forward to seeing you tomorrow and stop ducking the expert it up. Shout out to Cam. Cam, we look forward to seeing you tomorrow. Stop ducking the expert. Wherever you are, stop ducking the expert.

Get on the plane. You might be sitting next to Mike Tyson and he's going to want to box, Cam. Just get over it. For the people that are watching, Cam sometimes gets on a plane. He runs into Mike Tyson.

So now he's nervous to get on a plane. I'm just telling you what a little birdie told me. Not a dipset bird, but a little birdie told me this is what I heard. So, you know, April Fool's, you know. But check this out. When it comes to A.B. and Hamlin, I just think this is as messy as mess can get. Pause. No ditty. This is as messy as mess can get.

For you to actually do this, I mean, this is – pause before I say this. For real. No ditty. I mean this is pause before I say this for real no diddy this is as below the belt as you can get to say that you haven't seen this happen and then you put up the picture of him like in a

didn't he have like a cardiac arrest on the field this is crazy. And I think that this is how people be that he said he DM'd him just Monday. We got to know if that's true because that's even more crazy that you just DM'd me. But I think the thing is he DM'd, he was DM'd by AB and he didn't respond. And you know celebrities can really, not AB, but celebrities can really be upset if you leave them on scene, right? Say you got a baddie leave a dude who think he's lit on scene, he's like, what?

That's when his eyes get to scrunching huh he can't believe that this person has left him on read and then when i did a little research hamlin said that ab been damning him for a whole year now at least a year now so he's been on scene At least a year now. So he's been on scene for a year. Do you think he's just hating or do you think he's saying it to get his attention? That's the way Hamlin said it. He's doing it just to get his attention.

But I think when A.B. responded back and then Hamlin came back, it let me know that the same people that give out a lot of these things online, they can't take it pause when somebody does the same thing back to them. So it made me think of myself like things that I say about people, but I only tell the truth. So I don't ever try to go overboard on people. And I think people need to pay attention to that, but you, you, you feel free to go more. And I want to add that to the end before we move on to the next topic. That was a good assessment. When I look at this and I've been watching AB for a while and it made me

think of two things, right? I know with DeMar, I was actually at that game. So I know it was like a real serious, it was a serious moment. If you was in a stadium, man, it was like some shit you've never seen before. Just to have a whole NFL game stop for somebody to die, right? So you're going to internalize that totally different. And then when people start to joke about it, that's one set of feelings. But then also I think that AB does some shit that

people may look at sideways but they never say nothing because he's never doing something to them and so when DeMar says those comments he like basically saying like nigga you've been on some weirdo shit for a long time but nobody ever addressed you

you know what I'm saying? And now our paths just collided and I'm the one to address you. And even when you say like, you know, I used to look up to you, basically like you cost money, you burnt out. It's like, nigga, either you on coke,

you doing all type of drugs or some shit because this ain't how dudes act who have, who just in a healthy space in their mind, right? And, like, that's one point of view. But then also when I see AB online or through shit that he's going through, you'll see him where him and Le'Veon together, and they'll be doing some shit where they, like, coherent,

they in a brotherly space, they cool, they happy, whatever. But then also I think, like, when you're done with sports and you have nothing to do i think you do shit for attention you know i'm saying then you like like ab is not crazy but should you but should you be doing things for attention i'm gonna go i'm gonna go somewhere else with this i think there's a lot of people man once you get all of the money that you've ever gotten once you get all the fame and notoriety you really don't know what to do with yourself and so you just start doing different

shit and sometimes we call it weird sometimes we call it whatever and this is what happens it's just not like what ab once you like i'm telling you i said it before and y'all think i was tripping about lebron and i always describe it with him in an athletic sense that he's reached every goal that he's had, and so now you just start to function in a different space. But as dudes with money, you hit all of your goals, you hit everything you're trying to attain, and then you just start doing, like, weirdo shit.

And so then you want to be a rock star. Give me an example of weirdo. Is that being weird? Am I being weird? No, no, just like here we go. This is what I'm saying. No, because I have some of my goals. Cam, hey, this goes.

Is Cam being weird? No, but you all aren't done. Right? So when you're still trying to accomplish something, you understand that there's parameters that you need to behave in to keep moving forward, to keep attaining your goals, to keep progressing, right? Yeah.

But once people have reached a point where I got all my money, I got everything and more than I've ever thought I've had before, A, B ab went from junior college to i think eastern michigan or one of those smaller schools yeah i think he he didn't get drafted higher he's undrafted i don't know i don't know that piece of it but we can get the facts on it then he goes to pittsburgh and this motherfucker shoots out like a rocket and becomes a star bro you know i'm coming from so he's the fifth round pick so he he rocket and becomes a star, bro. You know where I'm coming from? So he's the fifth round pick. So he goes and becomes a star.

And so through that, you're basically telling everybody, fuck you, motherfucker. Like, I've achieved more than I've ever thought that I achieved. And so if you go back to that interview where he was sitting in his house, and I'm not sure who was interviewing him, he was sitting down across from him on a one-on-one interview like, man, look what I got. My house paid off.

I got millions of dollars. I got a Hall of Fame career. And he was acting like I've just arrived. But then I think once you reach that point, you don't wake up with purpose, so you self-destruct. Like, this goes somewhere else. And I'm just talking about, like, if you look at people who don't wake up and say, hey, man,

I have something to do every day, or I have a significant purpose, these people, in some regard, they go entertain themselves or do things for attention. That's my personal opinion. And I'm just – like just through life assessment, even through what I went through personally, I think that A, B is still in that phase,

so some of the things that he does go through that vein. That's my opinion. Man, that's interesting. I see you didn't say stat name, so do you think stat is going to change stuff? I like this spot. I like it. Stat is still – so look, we can use stat as an example. Stat is trying to still come up, so she behaves a certain way.

She presents herself a certain way. It's certain things I will and won't say but i think once you once you get to a point where you say fuck it you just begin to do whatever and that's what demar hamlin is saying like bro you know when we come from the nfl we come through this fabric and come through this line we don't act like that and i think that's what's happening yeah i think i think that's interesting that you say that so you're saying after after people get money they just become clowns basically if you if your goals are small and you don't reset i personally believe that you need to keep on moving the needle as to what you want to accomplish.

Not for vanity. Give me four clowns. Give me four clowns. Give you four clowns. And here goes the disclaimer. I'm not calling you a clown. To understand what he's saying, I need

an example. Who's an example? As a matter of fact, don't even say their name. Just say something people would do. In order for people to understand, Cam was here. He'd be like, what Mo is really trying to say?

What is Mo really trying to say in Cam's voice? Hey, this is Ali. I'm like this. Yeah, no name but what do they, what would they do? Because here at it is what it is. People count on us for the truth. They count on

us for the truth. Oh man. No name. You go stat and then let me think of them but I'm going to give you some clown behavior before it's out. I'm pretty sure our chat chat gonna tell us on youtube who some clowns are watching this right now list for clowns right you do it and instead of us doing it you do it so they can't get mad at us you call them a clown if you're watching it is what it is subscribe right now follow this link and

also right right now who you think has clown behavior is it when a person grow their hair out they never had their hair grown out before what do they do do they get 50 years old put diamonds in their teeth like what what is the clown behavior he's talking about do they start painting their nails no we're gonna get to that later stack can you take over for our takeover you know a great idea to me definitely let us know in the comments as far as a b just my quick little opinion um i feel like the purpose of ab's Twitter is to try to be like a meme account because if I like I follow him because obviously he was on the Steelers and Le'Veon Bell like I see the relationship that they have like race was talking about. I think he was trying to make it like a meme account. And because he's known for saying out of pocket things, people follow him for out of pocket tweets, but it comes to a point where there's certain subjects that are just no matter what you say there's no comedy there the end of the day demar hamlin almost lost

his life that was i was at the game i wasn't there but even from the tv it was like everybody stopped what they were doing was like whoa wow and mom doesn't even watch sports the god moment yeah so moments like that are just no matter what you try to they're just not funny like i don't it doesn't matter you know you want a reaction it doesn't like he's we are blessed that he's alive today so one of those things you know i actually respect demar for even like clapping back, like saying something, because it's just like a lot of people in those scenarios would probably feel some type of way and not. But he at least, you know, spoke to A.B. directly on Twitter and called him out. And A.B. tried to kind of say something back. I think he tried to say it wasn't him. I don't like his interest. There's like a lot of different things.

OK. him I don't like he has inter there's like a lot of different things okay at the end of the day I just feel like when you say something like that you could at least own up to him or at least say something to him after the fact because that was his life and I just feel like that's something not to be plagued with regardless of whatever you're trying to trying to do on your twitter so I don't know a lot of weird things about how I feel about that especially considering you know I am still his fan and he was on our show but there's just certain things that I'm not going to support. And that's one of them. So, yeah. Okay. So moving along, talking about painting nails, Jared McCain has signed an NIL deal with beauty and nail polish brand, Sally Hansen, of course,

now in North Carolina state beat Dukeke but what do you think about this new deal that he is signing well you know actually this guy mccain is the second he he i think he's got the second most nil deals behind um who is that um ronnie james with 1.2 million dollars when it comes to basketball so he's doing really good when it comes to his endorsements and um to add on this endorsements he's already with i think it was dick sporting goods and somebody else and then he he gets this deal to paint his nails i think it's kind of weird i do i think it's kind of weird but i understand that from what he said he painted his nails one time and he played so well he just kept it up and you know he he said he's not superstitious but that would be superstitious right if I paint my nails and I hit 18 threes,

and then the next week I say I'm painting my nails again, and I hit 15 threes, then the third week, he's going to paint them nails again. That is what superstition looks like. It's so boring to say that's not superstition as well. But you know how people say whatever floats your boat? No, don't let this float your boat you know like i think there gotta be somebody that that just says you know what

i've done wild things in my life i've done crazy things you know and but i think i think it's time that we have some people that that keep us on some kind of compass, you know, because it's starting to erode the fabric of young black men. And I think when you get paid a lot of money, but the things you do destroy people, I don't count that as success. Yeah, no, I'm with you on that and i went like two or three different directions with this and one you know i always advocate for young dudes get money right uh and that's just because i've went through that you know these guys generate a lot of money and there's endorsement

deals that you can sign to do so right so i I'm happy he's put himself in that position. The second part is, and this was like me thinking about, when you look at him, he's the leader of the team, right? And I've seen they just lost to North Carolina State, right? And so when you paint your nails and you fit the stereotypical prototype light skin soft dude that people look at Duke to be, and I'm talking about historically back when Jalen Rose and those guys was playing with Michigan and they was talking shit about Grant Hill and all those dudes down there.

Like you have to have like situational awareness and you have to say to yourself, like, um um with me being the leader of my team am i is this being more of a problem or more of a distraction even though i'm getting paid from doing so like is this being a distraction because i'm somebody who's from something totally different and i would walk on the court and i would be like man fuck this bitch ass nigga he's not about to beat me you know i what I'm saying? Are you... Just because he's playing his nails? Yeah, you look for

as a competitor, you look for things, one, outside of your game, but then the fabric of sports is very competitive and however whatever gets you going or whatever gets your teammates going, you just say certain people ain't going to beat me. You know what I'm saying? just say certain people ain't going to beat me.

These motherfuckers ain't going to beat me. When you rap it, it can be these motherfuckers from the South or these motherfuckers from the Midwest ain't going to do something better just because there's something like... You say this nigga had a thong on. He can't be harder than me.

He can't be tougher than me. No, he ain't about to beat me. He can't be tougher than me. No, he ain't about to beat me. And so I look at that. But he could be. But he could be. He could be. He could be.

But I get to looking at that and I say, you know, knowing that you're the centerpiece of the team, sports and winning championships, bro, are about intensity, focus, leadership, and to get to that level where Duke was under Mike Krzyzewski and that level, it ain't that sassy shit. It ain't the shaking your ass and your hips and fucking teeny bop songs. That's what these niggas is doing.

You know what I'm saying? Shaking your hips? What you mean? Like that? That's not a dance I'm saying? And- What you mean, like that? That's not a dance I'm talking about. Look, I see the nigga online, and he like doing this shit, like come on, man. You look at these-

So you saying Uzi ain't hard? Pause. No ditty, you said Uzi is not. Okay, you're making my point. Uzi's an entertainer. What I think is being conflated is these athletes want to be entertainers. It's always been like that. It's okay.

So it's okay. You're saying, like, say, Playboy Cardi with Thong. It's okay. He's an entertainer. That's what you're saying? I'm say Playboy Cardi, he wear a thong. It's okay. He's an entertainer. That's what you're saying? I'm not saying that's okay. What I'm saying is entertainment is entertainment, right? These guys entertain.

These are costumes and things that they do to entertain. That's one thing. When you're an athlete and it's time to go compete against people, that has its own set of parameters. You know what I'm saying? how you compete and who you compete against and how you dress and how you act towards your teammates and how you influence him and who's competing against you that's what i'm saying so why is it okay for entertainers and i'm saying it's because when i had one time i met playboy car he seemed like a really a really cool dude and Uzi as well.

Why is it okay for entertainers to wear thongs or paint their nails and it's not okay for athletes when they're both entertainers? I'm going to just go with my personal opinion, right? I'm going to exclude the thong. I'm going to just keep it to the nail piece, right? They go together. Girls that wear thongs get their thongs. So if

I would, like, in the spirit of I'm just holding you accountable. So the way I view it is like, when I'm going to entertain somebody, I'm going to put on whatever outfit, costume or whatever I have to go entertain the

crowd right and it's a performance right okay wait wait wait so exclude them exclude uzi exclude playboy cardi just on this subject because there's other people that do it as well so you're saying these athlete is okay for entertainers because they're going to put on a show. But I thought when a ball player who is the number one in the country, isn't he going out there to put on a show too? Isn't Shador putting on a show? Yes, but in the context, right, you're talking about the context of an artist is an individual. I go up there, I perform my music, my image, my clothing,

the way I enunciate words, the way I rap, whatever it is, the way I sing. That's it. That's an artistic individualized performance. Duke, Ohio state, Connecticut, these are institutions, right? And the institution governs, it has parameters. Like you, we can go, we can go deeper pause than that. These institutions are ran by a board of trustees who are a bunch of old conservative men and women, right, in most cases, at most universities. And RAP is a institution led by older white guys, too. led by all the white guys too.

And I'm saying this so we can have a balanced argument because they're not here to put their part in, but I know that's kind of what they would say. So I'm putting that in there. No, it's definitely a good discussion. But when I think of the head coach, when I think of the people who run the university, I know what they're expecting out of their athletes. They won't say this out loud, but they'll be like,

damn, what the fuck are you paying your nails for? Like, this is Duke. This is a notable university. Nigga, just show up like every fucking other person. Clean cut. Show up clean cut. Don't make something a problem or a distraction that isn't. So they can't come out and publicly say, nigga, we are against your nails because it will

make them look crazy and it'll make it look like they hate on this thing. But I guarantee you, they wish that nigga had a Nike deal or some fucking other deal for that same money. You know what I'm saying? Because if you got a thing like this, if they're paying you for their nails, that means every five seconds, the nigga got to do this, right? I ain't trying to hear all that shit.

Nigga, I brought you here to play ball, nigga. Not to shake your nails and do TikTok videos. What if he get the three and he goes like this with the nails? He did versions of it. He got these niggas in the locker. But this is what I'm saying. If you look at the videos, he's the leader.

He's the ringleader of the team. And who wants their ringleader shaking their ass with niggas in the locker room on some sassy shit? I know niggas laugh about this, but when it's niggas who serious, head coaches serious, man. Assistant coaches serious. Niggas who pay for these tickets serious, they want serious dudes, bro.

Like, people put up, here we go, people put up with that stuff with Rodman because he was an accessory. That's what they put up with it. Michael Jordan. I get what you're saying. Jordan is not supposed to have his nails black with

a tongue ring. Give me one sassy nigga on anything. You can go entertainment, sports, business, anything. At the highest level, you give me one nigga who's been sassy and succeeded. It don't work like that.

You want me to answer that? There's a few who have been sad. Can't argue with that. Go ahead. Go ahead. Right into that one right i'll give you a few niggas

and we're still like i don't know um well y'all know me. I always have a different opinion. Wait, wait. Let's have our discussion. There's a lot of niggas who painted their nails, wore dresses, wore just everything that you would declare sassy that has succeeded. So I don't know if I agree with that. Because those are most of the niggas who are lit. actually let let me let me bring it down i'm talking about it niggas are played out this sassy negative then that's why stat stat like all of that she want she wanted loan her scrunchie and all of that what are you talking about

scrunchie and all of that what are you talking about sack they both they they weigh each other scrunchies and all that no um i mean if mace has no further comments yeah i ain't gonna get into that because that'd be too that people think i'm being personal i with me, it's never personal, you know? I'm just here to tell the truth and hopefully it helps somebody, you know? That's fair. It is what it is. It is what it is. That's fair and I respect that.

Unbiased but truthful answers. Yeah, truthful answers. Yeah. So me, y'all know how I feel. I'm not, you know, blind. Like I understand why some people feel some type of way about it because you know some people don't want to see that but like that's what I see like that's the world I

live in like Jerry McCain I've seen his TikToks all the time especially after quarantine he made himself very marketable people like that he has a flamboyant personality and sometimes people hear flamboyant and they're like why would I want to be described as that I mean it makes him look personable makes him look like he's exciting like people like stuff like that the hip tiktok dances i like it nikki minaj be on stream with kai sanat doing that and they be killing it and those clips go by that's the truth ladies nikki is a female icon nikki's the lady but i'm saying a female icon like there's plenty of men who i've been seeing dancing on tiktok and girls eat that up like i don't know what to tell y'all like i feel like for them

what if i need to go on my i need to go on my on my that's what i'm doing tomorrow i'm getting on my i just feel like truthfully you know if the man likes women and the women are into it they don't care one two they're making money from it three they're not bothering anybody and four if it's not messing up his game i don't yeah that's the problem that's the problem right there people keep saying he's making the money that's fine if it makes you much money i'm all for it i'm my number one thing is it don't matter's fine. If it makes you make money, I'm all for it. My number one thing is... It don't matter what it is as long as you make money.

I didn't say that because that can be dangerous. The main thing is as long as it doesn't mess up your game. But at the end of the day, if we're being true, if it doesn't mess up your game, that's still about money to these institutions because you playing well is what puts money into the university's pockets anyways.

So it's all around the same thing. I'm happy you finished right there because that's the main thing. So she actually just helped me make – she helped to make my point. These guys are catering to the women, the women like it. The head coach and everybody else is saying, like, we don't care that the women like it. We brought your ass here to win basketball games, nigga. That's it.

You over there. So, that's what I'm saying. So, that was like the girls like it. I enjoy watching it. He's cool. Look, so, I'm saying, so, I'm not hating on that. I'm not. But what I am saying is that if I was managing and I was somebody who was close to him, I would say, look, bro,

eat that with all that shit that could be a distraction, go do it in your free time. But when you come in this ecosystem, this ecosystem, like this is like, I feel like my daughter, right? My daughter thinks that she can bring her personality and her space and her things into everybody's universe. Right. And I love my daughter to death. And that's more of like a Gen Z thing. If that's the generation I'm talking about, or let me be an individual in other pieces of people's spaces,

then my opinion matter. Nah, not for real. Like, everybody's ecosystem is governed by whoever runs that ecosystem. And we need to quit telling motherfuckers that, like, your opinion matters in every ecosystem because, like, that's a cool thing to say online.

It doesn't. You know what I'm saying? It's a whole lot of worlds I go into where I'm the king in my world, but when I go in other worlds, I'm fucking carrying the bags. And I'm just a part of another world, but I don't think that the younger generation gets that. I hope that doesn't sound like an old man talking, but you know what I'm talking about.

It does. It does, but it's truthful. It does. It does. I was going to say, I see both points. And also with that note before we wrap and go to break at the same time yes okay cool everybody's opinion doesn't matter but like jared everybody knows jared mccain's name on duke if you don't remember somebody else's you know

he's the one who's painted like if that's what you want in addition okay say we cool we don't care about the girls we don't care about the extra money if you want to make a name for yourself he he did that he did no i'm not going he did you know jaron mccain who became famous for doing a lot of things that as life went on they do not it doesn't help them at all i will give you some names but i don't want to shoot people down but they became very popular for what they did made a lot of money but at the expense of their future and they can't go anywhere and they can't enjoy anything let me say something i'm gonna say something before we go to break. Man, I'm glad you brought that up.

What I'm saying is because this voice of what we're talking about and this conscious, not consciousness, but this concept is not making it to this generation. That, yeah, you may get lit, and, yeah, you may make money, but at the expense of the rest of your life some people are never going to take you serious again and so you're doing this now when the trolling is over you may not have a future let me say something real quick i'm gonna give you a name what was the kid's name from that played for miss, was a defensive player of the year,

and right before the draft he came out of his game? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Michael Sam. His name is Michael Sam. So all through college, just think about this. All through college, my man goes out here, dominates, becomes the SEC defensive player of the year. I think that those are his stats, right? Correct me if I'm wrong. So for you to be the defensive player of the year. And I think that those are his stats, right? Correct me if I'm wrong.

So for you to be the defensive player. No, right before the draft, he goes from just being a great ball player to you should stand up for all of the gay LBGT2 rights or whatever the acronym is. And I'm just want to respectfully say it, right? So all of a sudden he goes pre-draft and the whole thing is hijacked for his sexuality.

And somebody got behind him and said, man, you can be the face for this. And he got his boyfriend on draft day. He wants to sit with his boyfriend. He wants to be right. He wants to sit in other people's world and say that I'm an individual. I should be able to do this. I make money. All the things you said that.

And there was a bunch of people who pumped him up. But there was also a bunch of old men who was like, ain't no motherfucking way. I'm bringing this shit in my locker room. They would never publicly say it because they will be ridiculed. And people will march outside and say, fuck this institution and all this other stuff. They lose sponsorship dollars, but it is what it is. Tell us how it tells us how it is. Man, they got that nigga to fuck up out the league quick. And they did it in the most polite way. Hey, you're not good.

Hey, there's some things you need to work on because you're not about to be in no masculine male dominated field and be sitting here talking about i'm i'm doing my own thing within your thing nah nigga oh no no no is that homophobic though is it homophobic yeah for you would never tell it's homophobic, but I just know it's not about to exist in that environment. So the owners, man, these dudes from wherever they're from, they're not going for that. Like you talk about people who grew up in Bible belts and have old, deep-rooted church, traditional family values. Man, literally traditional family values. They're not going for that shit, bro.

And we hate to say this stuff out loud, but that's what it is. And so when you look at somebody who paint their nails, there's somebody who's sitting up high and looking down. And it's cool, it's comical, but when that shit starts to affect the bottom line or it looks like this is a distraction and it's disrupting other people, this is how they play. You know what I'm saying? This is literally how they play. know saying this is this is literally

how they play and i'm talking about there should be somebody in mccain's corner saying that to him like yo bro you don't want to be that person go ahead my fault yeah you don't want to be so you basically saying he shouldn't be the mascot for something that is bigger than him unless that's where he want to fully embrace and know all the things that come with it basically i wanted to be a real nigga it's a lot of young niggas who want to be real niggas and play sports yeah real nigga can be a hindrance just as painting your nails can be a hindrance a real nigga mentality doesn't exist in a professional setting. Keep that shit where it's at, but when you step in this setting, you're a professional and you function up under the guidance that's set

before you. If you can't separate the two, your ass will be limited with your growth. We make it to negative connotations with people doing ignorant shit, but it also is with any behavior that doesn't fit in this box. That's what I'm saying. In your ecosystem, that's what you call it. My father, we went past the break, my father. Just super quick.

That's the reality of some things, but from the beginning of time, a lot of things have been that way. And it always just takes that one person to break that barrier, to see change. So if that is something that he truly cares about, if he's like, look, I can ball. If y'all really worried about me painting my nails, I'm going to paint my nails and continue to show you that I can still ball. And if he is that one to do that, he breaks that because things have been systematic like that since the beginning of time, we're talking about you know people's sexual orientation whether we're talking about race whether talking about gender like women couldn't do stuff black people couldn't do stuff like there's so many different boxes and i know it's just sound simple yeah

i'm just saying i know what i'm saying i know it's simple but if that's something that he cares about and he's like look i just want to do this like even down to wearing certain colors people felt some type of way about that and thought that that meant you liked this or you wanted to do that i don't think it necessarily means that i just think like i definitely like i'm not blind i get where y'all are coming from and sometimes you do have to just play that part to just be able to get where you want to go I understand that aspect of it but at the same time I don't really think it's that deep right now now if it's causing problems and if he enters his career but how do you start new generation how do you start 22 that's why you don't think it's that serious Yeah Talk to Lil Pump and you'll see That it was that serious

Lil Pump is around my age That's exactly my point What he thought wasn't serious before It became serious Like the Island Boys You know what I'm saying I don't think they're different They're a different lane No I'm saying different um they're different lanes

that you think is okay when you're younger when as you're trying to and shout out to both of those those you know musical acts it's just as that's why you need guidance because what mo is basically saying is if that's what you want to do you you may be able to do that down the line. But first, establish yourself before you try to make change. Like that's what Kaepernick did. Yes. Change is not made from the bottom. Pause.

Change is made on the top. You got to reach the top to make change. Change from the bottom is revolution. they always get rid of revolution when you give change from the top pause it's called solution hey i came up with a solution and then if you want to make change young fellas out there this is why you got to talk to people like me don't throw your life away trying to be the first reach the top and then you can make that change and be the first but don't throw your way your life trying to be the first back to you stat that was great not mad at that and that's a good point but i like how we all have different perspectives and all could share different aspects of what we think about it i

agree both points i definitely see where everybody's coming from, but I also got to throw in, you know, what my better is too. So, okay, on that note, we are going to go to break and when we return, we will talk about LSU's Haley Van Liff. Don't go anywhere. Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option

Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening to me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about she wanna be free welcome back now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day tonight the celtics will play the hornets underdog fantasy has jason tatum at 27 and a half points, do you have them higher or lower? Mace? 27 and a half points? Yes.

Who are they playing again? The Hornets. Of course he's going to have more than that. Okay. This is why y'all need me. Cam is not here. For this type of stuff, Cam is not needed. I'm really the go-to on this.

But use Code Cam. Take my advice and use code camp so that way he'll get you to the finals but you'll know it was me okay shout out the killer you better get back killer okay jaylen brown's at 31 and a half points rebounds and assists do you you have them higher or lower? Rebounds, points and assists. That's a tricky one. Pause. He could, he could, but I'm going to go lower. Okay. And Miles Bridges is at seven rebounds, higher or lower? Higher.

Use the code, Cam. Everybody use the code, Cam. Go ahead. hmm higher well code cam everybody use code cam go ahead download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too okay so lsu's hayley van lift says there is racism behind negative lsu comments so basically an article posted a column labeling them as dirty debutantes. Kamalke also weighed in and wasn't happy about the article written about them. So Haley Van Lith spoke up and said in a conference, we do have a lot of black women on this team. And unfortunately, that bias does exist still today. And a lot of the people that are making those comments are being racist towards my teammates. still today and a lot of the people that are making those comments are being racist towards my teammates i'm in a unique situation where i see with myself i'll talk trash and i'll get a

different reaction than if angel reese talks trash so what do you guys think about hayley speaking up the comments that she said you know speaking up for her teammates and the article that was written about LSU. What do we think about Haley speaking up? It's great. It's great she's speaking up. However, what does debutantes mean? It sounds dirty. Yeah, when I was searching debutante like the pictures were kind of like show girlie stripperish so oh you know what and if they're saying that they may be referring to like the extra baby hair

you know they may be i'm just saying what what somebody can be seeing from, from, from a different vantage point. Not that it's right. I don't think any of it is right, but I'm saying this goes back to the previous conversation we were having. You must not, number one, the comments are wrong. However, I'm saying you must not present yourself a way and then get upset that people treat you that way. Right. So we're in this in this touchy society where people want to people want to be treated as grand, but they want to act poorly. Right. So it's like I don't want to be responsible for my actions, but don't talk to me like I'm crazy. But I want to be able to do crazy stuff.

This is your generation, Stat. This is your generation and my generation. People want to do crazy stuff, but they want to be seen as something else. Like, no, this is just my time doing this. And it's impossible for you to be a public figure and not think that your public image hangs on how you carry yourself in public. Right?

So if you got loud people, if they're doing grunchy things, and this is not what LSU is doing, but we're having a conversation because it seems like there's a big gap of people taking accountability. It's like accountability doesn't exist. Van is saying this.

How do you say her name, Van? Haylen. Like, she's saying this, but I would love to see what she says when she's not with them. Because what I notice most times is that people that say these things publicly, they don't feel that same way when they're not with black people. Not that she's like this, but I'm just going to go ahead and say it since we're on this topic today. There's people that'll be around you and like, oh yeah, I got black friends, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. But do they talk that way amongst people

that are not black when black people are not there? That would be a better question. So that's how I feel about it. It's great that she said this in public. It's great that she took that stance. But I've seen people do this on different sports shows. They do the same thing when they're with Black people. But when they're not with them, they talk totally different. So either way, I think it's all wrong. I think it's all, you know, sad that people are still in 2024 because, you know, white girls like black guys and black guys like white girls.

So I don't see how people are really racist. You know? You see the white guy, look at you. I'm going to let y'all go first before I say any of my comments. I'm just saying what I'm picking up, what it's

giving. Ain't that what y'all say? What it's giving. You take a swagged out white boy, look at you. You would, and there's nothing wrong with it it's nothing wrong who said that yeah i mean people be in my dms like who said that like people be asking me because your comments yeah i'm just letting you know i'm just letting you know it's all it's all good in the hood you're from florida so i know you probably have you ever dated a white guy yes

but you see how you're around black people right and you're and you're claiming them you get what i'm saying i'm black i know but i'm saying without without them present you're claiming them you're speaking well of them i'm saying most people not a lot not not many people often speak well of black people when they're not in the presence of black people that's why racism can go on. If behind the doors, there was, you know, white people with white people, and they said something about black people and it wasn't okay, then it wouldn't be okay publicly. Like I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a scholar at what we're talking about right now. That's how I know how to read people's body language. You ever go around people and you think you cool with somebody, but their friends are not acting like you're cool but you think you're cool with their friend somebody that's

with them that's because behind your back they're not talking like you think y'all are right here behind your back is a different conversation and that's why the energy is funny because it's not really what you think it is. So that's what I was picking up from Van Halen. Not that she's doing this, but it ain't a hundred. I'm going to give you something else to add on to it.

When you're doing a national publication, bro, you know how many fucking editors you go through before you put material out? And so for everybody know what the fucking editors you go through before you put material out and so for everybody don't the fuck a dirty debutante is when uh i just know when i was coming up it was what is it mo i didn't know no so i don't i don't know the exact terminology right but when girl when we were coming up in high school there was girls who go like to etiquette classes and then they would do all these etiquette classes and then it would be a debutante ball and they would all have like suits and ties and it would be some like formal things so to call somebody a dirty version of that is to say that that person is like basically like a

piece of shit right but i just look at like who who's who passed this who's destined to pass for them to say oh okay this shit is cool to put out. You know every fucking line of everything that goes out and you know how it's displayed. She's just the one who's pointing it out. And so she's probably also speaking to when we moving through traffic or when we whooping team's ass

and to your point, when motherfuckers talking shit and just rocking how niggas rock and displaying that behavior, that's going to get a certain opinion when you step in certain environments. And we can say, oh man, fuck this, fuck that. It just is what it is. You know what I'm saying? People are going to label you a certain way based upon how you act in whatever environment. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying, I know based on how i present myself whether i'm competing and getting loud or how i'm displaying myself on social media

or when people even see me getting money and they resent it so when you're young and you black and you get money there's people who get up and work their ass off and they resent it and people hate to hear that that's why they try to minimize sports and talk down on it and talk so much shit like man these niggas shouldn't be making this money all these things are like uncomfortable and cringe words to be heard out loud bro but it is what it fucking is you know i'm saying and until people have that honest conversation so what ends up happening is you get these sideways remarks where dirty debutants you don't mean motherfuckers laughed about that and shot that out you know i'm saying and so i'll look at that's why i made it in the media that's why i made it that's exactly

what i'm saying behind closed doors when they were talking that was okay that's why i made it to print okay just just think about a moment just think about a moment where early in the season i was about to make a bad joke and motherfucker said this we ain't gonna do that you see where i'm coming from yeah because somebody cares about you to say nah but if somebody lets something go through you can tell that they'll let your ass jump off a bridge. But they let those comments come out. You know what I'm saying? And that's how people collectively feel. I can go on and on about this topic. But my fault, Stat. You go ahead and weigh in. Wait, I want to add something else. What else I thought about when it comes to Van, Haley Van?

Van Lith, yes. You can just say Haley. Yeah, when it comes to Haley is this. She needs to correct them because she understands what they're doing is communicating to other people. So if you're going to stand in the trenches with them on a topic that's going to affect them, also tell them about the behavior that they're doing. Because she's kind of like going about it from what I'm reading. I don't know her, but from what I'm reading, almost like in a I'm not going to say she's being passive aggressive. I would like to see her be more assertive with them because it's their behavior. Just like she said, if she start making comments on the court, it's because it's taken totally different.

It's taken totally different to who? That that means you're aware of the race difference. the race difference. So if you're aware of the race difference, then you need to school them because obviously they don't care nothing about it. And what I've learned about friends that I may have known when they don't care nothing about it, I don't care nothing about it. If they're not going to care about how they treat, how they talk to people and how they treat people, then I'm not going to care about the outcome because they don't care. If they want to like, you know, like date them, then you got to accept what comes with that. That's all I'm saying. The accountability, you know, this from, from the first topic to the second topic, to the third topic is the same thing it's no accountability we want to act however we want and we want to be treated grand no matter if we're acting without and that that just got to change

yeah so my thing about Haley I definitely respect her comments for this because kind of to Mace's point like if you see that your teammates are frustrated about something, then you know that you're in the position where you can make a comment and make some sort of change. You know, I respect that because I mean, a lot of the teammates have made comments about, you know, how the media portrays them

and keeps trying to say that they act ghetto and stuff like that. And it's kind of like people brush over and they're like, yeah, that's how you guys act. But now that Haley and their coach Kim has spoken up, like this is like an ESPN headline title. People are like, this is what they're saying, which I think more people need to see one.

And two, I just see it just seems like she's a great teammate. She's been sticking up for her teammates for a lot of stuff, even in that fight with South Carolina when Camila Cardoso and Flange got hit. Haley was the one who ran through the side and was kind of like, even though Camila's like 6'6", I don't remember how tall she is exactly, but she's mad tall. Haley's a lot smaller. She made sure that she came to her teammates' defense when nobody else really kind of like helped.

How did she run to her defense? Did she throw a punch? I said in the video that I seen, it looked like she stuck Camille a little bit, a little hit. People are saying that that's not what happened. But from what I've seen, that's what it looked like to me. But she definitely came to Flau'jae's defense when Flau'jae was on the ground. She went up to Camille, basically kind of like telling her like, what's good, that type of thing. So I have a lot of respect for her because it seems like she is a good teammate.

And I think that there are just a lot of negative for her because it seems like she is a good teammate and I think that there are just a lot of negative comments towards LSU and I've spoke about this a lot because I mean they do voice their opinions and people see them winning and get mad when they're winning and it's just like you cannot wait on somebody to play well crazy and they talk crazy everybody talks crazy no no not like they talk not like they talk everybody does not talk that crazy they talk crazy so that's what i'm saying if they could give out smoke pause they got to be able to take smoke but that's if it was coming from somebody trash talking on the court that's very different from a quote- quote unquote professional article who's supposed to be reporting on the team. Like to me, that just doesn't look right. And as a journalist, then being journalists, you should know better than to write articles like that.

That's like one of the number one things that we're we're taught. Like you can be opinionated and have opinionated articles, but to paint them in some picture that they're clearly not and we're still forgetting that they are young women. I just think calling them black women are the most unprotected. Let's protect the black women.

Listen here, black women. Make sure you carry yourself like queens so they can continue to treat you like queens is that fair that is very fair and to add so like obviously a lot of people on here watch me follow me on social media you can't like how i present myself right but i don't think that they're doing anything to present themselves in the wrong like they're not like they're not doing anything that's crazy out of pocket social media our lives are you know looked at in a microscope nowadays like i mean even before i mean i don't think everything was as you know public as it is now obviously um but i don't think that they're doing anything to to be getting any

of this so let me add on to that right i i can agree with you when you say i don't think they're doing anything purposely right and sometimes culturally how we act in our neighborhoods or how we grow up and i know flange comes out of uh new orleans or baton rouge and i don't know which part of new or Orleans that she comes from. Angel comes from Virginia, D.C., Baltimore area, somewhere over in there, right? And there's things that we do when we're working out, when we're playing games, when we compete,

and that works for those environments. But it goes back, same thing I was talking about, the kid from Duke, right? Those behaviors exist, like, personally amongst yourselves when you're working out and doing your thing. But these institutions are controlled by donors, by sponsorships, by dollars. The people who fill these stands are old white families, people who have graduated, and people who continue to come to these institutions and these games to support these teams. So when they sit down, their expectation is to see a certain thing. And so when, this is no offense, I listen to Lil Boosie music. When you got set it off playing in

the background and you have young women and they say, you want to talk shit, you want to run your mouth, you want some gangsters in your motherfucking house we'll set this bitch off and then that's what makes this for you not to say I don't understand how people are looking at me like this I got caught

AK-47 gun say it again Mo say it again cause she don't understand say it again, Moe. Say it again. Because she don't understand it. Say it again. Wait, say it again. Wait, wait, wait. Let Moe finish.

I'm a Boosie fan. No, no. Just say the song. Say the lyrics. This is what's playing. Go ahead, Moe. Say it again Moe

go ahead say it if you want to talk shit you want to run your mouth you want some gangsters in your motherfucking house we'll set this bitch off now listen to me people have just never seen this out of women in the house, we'll set this bitch off. Now listen to me.

People have just never seen this out of women. This is what goes on in our communities. This is what goes on behind closed doors. This is what goes on in the parties. This is what goes on when we're by ourselves. But then we seem to take ourselves like we will accept it from football

players. Was Kim Monkley going like this when they were playing? Hold on. Was she doing that? Was she doing that? I have a response. I'm just... Is Kim Monkley going like this is all I want

to know. So, what I'm saying is this, Zach. I'm a Boosie fan. I still listen to nigga shit. I'll be back in all Cam's old music. I'm full nigga, right? But when I go somewhere, I don't take that with me. You were playing on the PGA Tour.

Nah. You got to. This is part of mature, part of development. And it's not selling out. No, it's not selling out. It's understand this is what the environment calls for. And sometimes when you're younger, you want to push your youth or your mentality in a space or in a system, and you can't get mad that they respond a certain way. Now, I've said my piece about the editors and allowing this shit to happen, but then to elaborate what Mace said is like, okay, now,

there's a reason that you present yourself a certain way. There's a reason I sent you a message. You turn up, right? a certain way. There's a reason I sent you a message. You turn up, but you just coming on camera, doing all of that. So it's the same way. We're going to protect our sisters at all costs. We're saying now, because

we're protecting, you don't just throw us in wars, because you know we're going to protect you. And let me say me because stuff can be stuff can be made out of context i love flange that i sent you her freestyle earlier i enjoy her rapping she can really rap i enjoy angel reese i knew angel reese from jordan hawkins they come up together jordan is my dude who played for the pelicans right but i'm also going to say i've been through my nigga phases

and I wanted to push my nigga phase into everybody's face. And that ain't what it is. And you don't understand it till you get older. That's it. I do want to just preface. I understand all of that, which is why I am Kenny too. I am the generation you guys are talking about. I can come on camera and talk with you guys. Everybody thinks I'm older than I am. I act accordingly. I know how to present

myself in certain spaces and I take pride in that. And I have respect for myself for doing that. Always going to do that. But in this case, to me, it feels like that's why I'm saying social media is just such, when you have just cameras everywhere recording everything you do, I don't think, like, they're not doing that on the court, like, that video of them singing Lil Boozy, like, everybody knows in Louisiana, Lil Boozy is that guy, like, at LSU, white kids, Asian kids, Black kids, everybody singing to him knows it word for word, all the songs, that's just how they vibe, they were dancing to that song in the locker room but people for these instances when it comes down to those articles are all gonna all of a sudden gonna bring up those videos and be like see this is how they act and like I promise you they probably

don't act like that 24 7 but I just know how it looks that's basically what I'm trying to say like the way things are carried on social media like you know when they always say like bad timing or like social media is forever these clips are going to be brought up like that's just what people do that's the way the cookie crumbles that's why it's like we are expected to carry ourselves in a certain way at all times because you never know when stuff is going to be brought up but at the same time it's just like it sucks for them because it's just like I know they're just living life they're in college things that you know other people did in college they probably never do now and I'm not saying that they're actually wild because they're not but it's just like it sucks for them because it's just like i know they're just living life they're in college things that you know other people did in college they probably never do now and i'm not saying that they're actually wild because they're not but it's just like that's just how it goes social media are things recorded we're seeing that stuff so let me go go it's not it is is is

once you get a reputation for something that's what you're you're you's what you're not acknowledging. Once you get a bad reputation, everything is perceived bad because you have a bad reputation. So it's other black girls that play basketball that could throw Boosie on, and they're not going to be called that because they don't have the history of bad behavior. Are you getting what I'm saying? Once you get that behavior with Derek, they're doing things just like if we was talking about a B. Because of the history, anything that seems wrong, we're not going to give the benefit of the doubt anything that seems wrong we're not going to give the benefit of the doubt to AB we're going to give the benefit to Hamlin

right because of reputation and this is what all of our culture period is not being taught they're not being taught that it's profitable to have a good name. A good name is profitable. You're supposed to guard that with everything.

And the society is saying, this goes back to one of our first conversations, if you can make money doing something, people just think it's the thing to do. But if it's going to ruin your name, yeah, you're getting a lot of likes on this. Because even myself, I started coming across people like, I don't know if I want to be perceived like that. I'm not just going to be taking shots at people because it make money online or this and that. That's not my vibe. That's not my thing. So I got to pretty much just say the truth about stuff, but I'm throwing no extra shot at nobody because that's not me.

But once you get that crown for that, that's how everybody see everything you say. And they won't give you the benefit of the doubt, even myself, of something I said, even if it came from a good place because you're known your reputation is this so that's how people see the things you say it's on you but but i'll add to this it's what it goes back to i remember when i first started having success with our house state the coach gave me a book the prayer of jaybaz

and it was about to whom much is given much is required and as you get blessed in a larger territory you can't act like everybody else i was young and i didn't get it so when i go ahead and give you this contract and i say i'm gonna give you a million nil deals or i'm giving you money for gatorade i'm giving you money for this that is a contract inside of that contract, there's language that you need to fit within the brand's requirements. You need to act accordingly. It's engagement. And so that doesn't give you the ability to do what you want to do. And I'm not saying that they have been doing that, but the, the, the, like the perception is like, sort of like what May said, let me get

the money. Let me act like myself and let me do what I want to, even though I'm sitting inside of somebody's ecosystem that has all of these standards requirements and so on and so forth. And so, and I think that's the, that's the major point that I'm trying to make. If you young, if somebody gives you money, somebody aligns their brand with you, or you're at an institution that has institutional values, whether you like it, hate it, love it, or not, that environment that's bringing you all of your success dictates how you should act or what people expect from you. That's it. When I'm on this platform, it is what it is. It's saying, people expect from you. That's it. When I'm on this platform, it is what it is. This ain't my thing. I'm functioning up under Mace and Cam and I'm functioning accordingly. Even what I say out

my mouth, even when I play around on the internet, I'm associated with this brand. So I'm thinking of them and how I'm perceived. Like I wouldn't do no silly shit because it's like they wouldn't co-sign. So that's what I'm talking about. Understanding alignment, understanding where you at inside the process, the system. And so I can go on and on about it. Y'all see, I'm passionate about this stuff. So I'll let you go. It's not my fault. No, I want to say I agree 100%. And I understand that. I just, I'm basically just saying,

I don't think it's necessarily fair but I just know that that's how things are supposed to go and even though I am the younger generation because it feels like I'm just like speaking for Gen X Gen Z whatever because I technically am but um that is an understanding that a lot of people don't realize because I mean at the end of the day we're thinking like this is this is, this is our world. Everybody else is living in it. Like, that's just what younger people think. Like I, I have to exit myself in my brain. It's just like this, that's what it is. Um, which isn't the reality. Things do have to function in a system. And that's what I think our generation is just like break the system. Like that's annoying. Like we don't have to do things by the book. We don't have to do

things. And the reality is like, that's how things are. I also think that's why I'm in the position that I'm in because I listen a lot. Like I definitely take what you guys say and listen to that and understand all of that. I'm not saying that I always think it's fair because for example, like, yes, like LSU should act a certain way in certain spaces because they know that people are already going to have that image and stuff of them because of past behavior. I just don't think Like LSU should act a certain way in certain spaces because they know that people are already going to have that image and stuff of them because of past behavior. I just don't think that's fair because I'm still thinking like, hey, they're young girls in college, they're living their life.

But I understand the requirements that need to be taken so that doesn't keep happening. It just doesn't feel fair to feel like that they have to act a certain way in order to be taken seriously or not be called ghetto and ratchet just because they're living their lives but that's just the reality of how things are and how things function and how things work in a system but that makes any sense that does living your life means being ghetto living your life some people some people some people are like that you know some people some people just are are like that you know some people some people just start ghetto and that's fine like i'm saying because you use the term of them living their life and it's not fair when yeah because when you're giving something everything

you get comes with responsibilities yeah just say somebody gave you something and it's not fair that they're requesting a responsible behavior is, is, is crazy. But that's, so my point when I say that is right, like if you, if you, I don't, I don't even have a good analogy. Like if you live a certain way and you act a certain way and you're around certain people and that's all, you know, and then you're just put into a completely different situation that you're not used to. A lot of people don't have that reality check, like, okay, this is a different scenario. You know, let me, let me do what's being requested by this institution. Some people are just like, that is making me change who I am. of a good example and I don't even want

to go into a whole nother discussion because we do have to wrap soon like shikari like everybody was like why is she doing this why is she doing that why is she wearing her hair like this and it's just like that's just who I am so y'all are trying to make me change who I am and that's not what I want to do you know she got you know a lot more leeway after that but it took a lot of things in between for her to be able to be quote-unquote taken seriously because then it was like all right people are saying really out-of-pocket things but i just this is really disturbing honestly because even when you think she could have almost lost a career yeah her talent is a gold medalist but her brain is fried rice

you you can't you you gotta change that mentality because that's what causes us as a people to underachieve by the time you grow up you're. See, you're saying this now, but you're not realizing we was young niggas. And saying the same thing. And so many opportunities are lost so the people are telling you this so you don't be out here looking like scrambled eggs. You know what I'm saying? Your talent is iconic, but your character is going to have you back in the hood. You don't go as far as your talent. You go as far as your integrity. And that's what people are not teaching. Most young, talented people don't understand that that's why we have so many people that don't get to their full potential because your talent is only going to get you there but this behavior that we talking about

is going to be the reason somebody either answers the phone or nah we're going to pass on that and then people like well he could have played for eight more years. Why is he not playing? It's his behavior. It's the same conversation we're talking. Well, she could have done this. Why she's not on Pepsi? Because Pepsi don't want weed smokers on the cover. But she's living her life. No.

To be great, you sacrifice to be great. I think also, man, and I know you've got to wrap it up in a second set, but we need to get out the mindset that maturing, becoming professional, having class is a white thing. That is that is an evolving thing. that is that is an evolving thing and you know it's just it's like we think like that all black people ain't supposed to be niggas you know so we're not like we're not supposed to function and you know function at the lowest level of humanity socially verbally or you know just interpersonal skills it's not but we got got this thing that since we can't hold on to, like, and that's not even Black culture. Like, nigga ghetto culture is not Black culture. Like, let's start to separate that shit, too. Like, how you present yourself,

that is how I would want my daughter to present herself, right? And that's no offense to nothing else, but it's just how I would want my daughter to represent our family and to care about our name and how she interacts with people and just being thoughtful and all this other shit. And so we need to do that. That is the big thing where you like, you know, motherfuckers speak proper English or they clean up their dialect or they enunciate words. And we'll be like, oh, this motherfucker acts like no motherfucker. He's acting like a human being who's red and has learned more words and wants to present himself better. You know what I'm saying? And that's

what I'm talking about. And this ain't no shot at Angel Reese. This ain't no shot at Flange. This is no shot at everything because go Google my shit. I went through that phase, but it took for my ass what makes it stand. That's why it resonates to his home. I lost a lot of opportunity being a nigga and I thought that I

stood for all these niggas in my neighborhood and they had to see me no that's where them niggas stopped you know what I'm saying and they make you hold on to a space because they don't want to grow no more and then when you start to get outside of that space motherfuckers be like oh you changing

yeah motherfucker I am because I'm starting to experience more. These niggas who you impress and who send you direct messages and you represent for us, these niggas ain't cutting you the checks that's helping you advance. That's the shit that we need to learn about. But we think that when we leave this nigga shit behind that we're about to fucking fall apart. And like, you know, you about to get some other friends who didn't come up all broken shit. Sometimes you need to leave niggas where they at. You know

what I'm saying? Sometimes you need to leave the nigga shit where you at. And nigga ain't just black person. Niggas is white boys too. Asian motherfuckers, Indian motherfuckers, it's just low level behavior. It's that mindset. It's low-life. Yeah, take the race piece

off of it. When you get a million dollars, two million dollars, and you're the face of an institution, you don't dictate how you fucking act. You can say, I can put my little sauce on it, but you need to figure out who the fuck came before,

and you say, okay, this is how they get paid. The greatest motherfucker all time, and I'm going to tell you like this, hails from fucking Akron, Ohio. You think that motherfucker ain't a nigga on some level? Yeah. But you know what he's mastered? He's mastered the art of being a professional.

And people pay LeBron for being a fucking professional. Fuck the game shit. Fuck all the basketball, the point shit. I don't even have a fucking opinion on it, right? But I can tell you like this. They pay that nigga for being a professional. So for any young kid who's looking, they can say this is somebody who played the game the right way.

And so he may go with Rich and Mav and all these motherfuckers and be a nigga where he wants to be a nigga, but you ain't going to never catch him talking talking about you wanna talk shit. I bet you know every word of the song, though. You sure I'm coming from? And that's what I'm talking about. And so, hopefully I said it with taste. Sometimes they beat me up in the comments, so I wanted to make sure I cleaned

it all up. Say it with taste. Grow the fuck up. You know what I'm saying? It's not bad for niggas to grow the fuck up. And be better. That's it. And stop keeping people down with that behavior. Because as you become an icon or a legend or whatever you are, you're holding people back by making people think that's cool. It's the people who blow up and they try to stay the same you're

actually doing us a disservice instead of showing us we could be more because if you stay the same you're gonna end up losing everything and then everybody's gonna be looking at you like a like a donkey like what why did what happened to you so the same people that champion the behavior is going to call you stupid when you lose everything oh and that's a snapple fact no doubt about it i'm sure we all have plenty of more comments because this is actually a great conversation in a gen of an episode because we took a lot of sports topics but it it became a lot of things that are deeper that need to be spoken about a lot of people aren't talking about but we must come to an end Maurice thank you for being here I love y'all man you did your thing pause no ditty and it's that you held it down. Stat, Stat, you could talk a lot, Stat.

I didn't know you talked that much. Hey, we missed you, Cam. Hey, Cam, hurry up back. And stay off the plane with Mike Tyson. I heard he's looking for you, Cam. Well, that is all the time that we have for today. All right. We'll see you next time. well that is all the time that we have for today all right