IT IS WHAT IT IS - DAWN STALEY GETS HER REVENGE ON CAITLIN CLARK & BRONNY JAMES GOING TO THE NBA DRAFT?! | S3 EP68

Episode Date: April 8, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support this show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They'll also match your first deposit up to $100, and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treasure Wilson, a.k.a. StatBaby, along with your hosts, Mace and Cam.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Murder, what up, man? Killer was good, man. Did you see the game? Yeah, of course I seen the game, man. I'm mad I wasn't there. I'm pissed off about it. Let me fix this. I know it's a glare that's better
Starting point is 00:01:06 nick on the gear let me fix that sorry about that yeah man i'm sorry i'm apologized to the fans in cleveland everybody who thought i was coming had a little setback but i do apologize but it was sensational man it's a great weekend of women's basketball man yeah it was a very, very great week of basketball. Some hating going on, but we're going to get into it. I sensed a lot of hating. I ain't going to lie. I didn't call it all hating, but, yeah, there definitely was some hating going on. Let's get into it then, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Definitely want to know your thoughts on that. But first and foremost, we're just going to start with the game overall so South Carolina defeated Iowa 87-75 what did you guys think of the game and what did you think would have been a better story Kaitlyn Clark winning the national championship or South Carolina remaining undefeated that's a good one that's a good one that's a really good one i think as them as south carolina going undefeated is a great story you know to me it seemed like it's the beginning of a dynasty down there in south carolina shout out to don staley and that whole team and even the freshmen. Her freshmen are phenomenal. It gave me the feeling like they were actually able to do something that the Fab Five was supposed to do. So, I mean, there's a lot to take from this game.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And I don't want to be too long-winded because I want to come back with some more points. But just looking at the game and looking at what Kaitlyn Clark was able to do, she got a regular 30. But if you was asking me what would have been a better story, it probably would have been a crazier story for everything else that she was doing historically this year to leave out with a championship. was doing historically this year to leave out with a championship but i mean i didn't expect her to beat all of them by herself but i did i don't know if that makes sense you know like i wouldn't have put it past that if she was able to pull it off pause it wouldn't have been it wouldn't have been a surprise to me a better story for white people is caitlin clark a better story for black people
Starting point is 00:03:29 is dan staley pardon me don staley don staley pardon me it's a better story for black people look i i cheered for um pardon me i cheered for iowa all the way until last night. I wanted to see Caitlin Clark do everything. It was amazing. I was rooting for her because I like watching greatness. So I rooted for Caitlin Clark until last night because I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be straight up honest. I said, enough's enough.
Starting point is 00:04:05 This white girl can't run through the bracket like this. Now it's just getting ridiculous at this point. Just me, personally, as a former black athlete. And no disrespect, whatever. As a former black athlete, the buck had to stop last night. I ain't going to hold you, my nigga. I was was sitting there like I rooted for this girl from the beginning of the season middle of the season
Starting point is 00:04:28 end of the season the beginning of the tournament and then when she made it to the championship I said nah cause it's black on white crime white on black crime however you wanna put it see Huggins, Page
Starting point is 00:04:41 and Connecticut that was white on white crime so I'm like if I'micut that was white on white crime yeah i'm like if i'm gonna pick a white on white crime situation i'm going with caitlin i like caitlin attitude but it's sort of like when you watch family feud you even if you don't know the black family you root for them even if they say something stupid you just go if you black you go for the black family. If you look at this game, the starting lineups, there's four black girls on South
Starting point is 00:05:09 Carolina and one white girl. And on Iowa, it's four white girls and one black girl. Let's get it. Let's get it. The difference in the game, honestly though, is that the depth that you see the depth that South Carolina had, man.
Starting point is 00:05:29 It's just they played nine players a lot of minutes, too. The lowest person, one person didn't play. The other four people off the bench, lowest 14 minutes, 18 minutes, significant amount of minutes, just putting pressure. And they outscored them 37 to 0. That matters. That matters when you got that kind of depth. And Dawn Staley really was like she got two starting fives.
Starting point is 00:05:53 She trusts everybody at any given moment. So it goes to speak to the Delta, South Carolina. But to answer the question, Stat, it depends on who you're asking because as a black man, I'm going to go with the black story. As a white person, this is what I will say. America. America. America, if you wasn't around for Larry Bird, younger American,
Starting point is 00:06:21 this is your Larry Bird. Dirk Nowitzki don't count. The Joker Bird. Dirk Nowinski don't count. The Joker don't count. Luka don't count. You have a homegrown American white athlete that's a superstar. It's been a lot of white athletes since Larry Bird, but none of them have been American.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Dirk Nowinski, it don't matter who it is. They wasn't American. And America been starving for a superstar white athlete for years and to be honest with you i haven't seen anything like it since larry bird so um without all the larry bird killer hold on real quick ma i'm gonna get back to that because i want to put my disclaimer real quick i don't mean them i don't want this to sound racial what I'm saying, or like I'm discriminating. I've been rooting for Caitlin Clark, but us as black people know the truth.
Starting point is 00:07:13 What's on the inside. Pause. You're not going to go against the blacks. Like if you looked at that stadium, it was literally black against white. It was black people over here and It was black people over here, and it was white people over here. It almost reminded me, and I know Snap probably didn't see it. She's a little too young. A Harlem Nights murder when the black nigga went to fight at Harlem Nights,
Starting point is 00:07:36 and the white people jumped up when the white nigga did something, and the black people jumped up when the black nigga did something. It was that type of vibe, man. So I'm just being honest, but Caitlyn Clark's amazing talent. Not only that, she lived up to the hype. There's been a lot of pressure on this girl. I'm not going to sit here and say from the beginning of the season, even though it has, but midway during the season,
Starting point is 00:07:58 you got to beat that. She's, what, 100 points away from breaking this record. Oh, you're 10 assists from breaking that record. Oh, you can lead the school NCAA in scoring completely. Oh, you may lead the NCAA turning in points completely. It's a lot for her to carry, and she lived up to every single moment. Like I said, there wasn't much more she could do. You go out on your shield scoring 30 to be totally honest
Starting point is 00:08:25 with you and no disrespect to the rest of our team, but how to get here is crazy. How to get here with that team is crazy, man. So salute to Kaitlyn Clark and the rest of the team in Iowa. But yeah, Murda, let's talk about it. Who's the white superstar since
Starting point is 00:08:41 Larry Bird? American. That's what I'm thinking because a lot of times you look at something and then when you do the background, you're like, they're not from America, you know? Yeah, you think about it. That's what I'm saying. When you sit here and really think about it basketball-wise,
Starting point is 00:09:00 I'm not going to put baseball in anything else. I'm talking about basketball. Basketball-wise, I'm not going to put baseball in anything else. I'm talking about basketball. And a white American superstar has not been here to this height or potential as Larry Bird if you really sit there and do the math. And I ain't really even ready to argue about it. I would like for you to tell me somebody who's even closer. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:21 Because I thought about this, but not even with Caitlin Clark. Just over the years, how much America would love a white superstar that is from America. It would go crazy, bro. If niggas had an Ant-Man,
Starting point is 00:09:38 a Trey Young, who else? John Morant, a Luka, a SGA, somebody said a john moran uh a luca uh sga uh uh a joker yeah you know how much their success would be heightened because they're from american white even i named black players too yeah i'm just saying any of them super you know on the on the rise superstars i'm saying all stars, with potential superstar assets if they're not already a superstar,
Starting point is 00:10:09 do you know exactly how much more their celebrity would be celebrated being that they're from America? And not only that, Caitlyn Clark's from middle America. She's from M&M land. So when you're from middle America, they love you because middle America feels like that's the last of America when it comes to white people. Yeah, she's actually
Starting point is 00:10:29 from that lifestyle. I think when it was all said and done, Don Staley was looking at it week after week and said, we're going to put an end to this. That would have been my whole theme of what I would have been saying
Starting point is 00:10:47 in the locker room. Tonight, that ends. It ends with us. Yeah. Maybe they wasn't bold enough or forward enough or aggressive enough to get this done, but tonight we're going to stop all that Kalen Clark stuff. Yeah, and then – Sorry, Mike. That's what they went out to do. I mean, but she had a gang load of points, man. When you think about it, for her to finish with
Starting point is 00:11:16 39-51 for a career, that's right there at 4,000 points. That means she's been killing all her years. It's not like it just started this year. So that's a hell of a career to have down there in Iowa. And I think Dawn Staley echoed that when she kept saying she lifted the sport. But then she started saying she's going to lift the WNBA up. So I don't know. We're going to have to get into that a little later. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Big shout out to Kaitlyn. But, yeah, look, when you're coaching, you don't want to look ahead of teams and you don't want to say we're going to beat them, beat them. But I agree. That was circled on the calendar. But not only that that what you got to realize is this was a revenge game for south carolina because last year because caitlin sent them home last year in the semifinals so don staley this wasn't just about south carolina
Starting point is 00:12:19 against iowa this was about don staley don pardon. I don't know why I keep this pronoun in my name. Dawn Staley against Kaitlyn Clark and her coach as well because she's like, yeah, I got a whole new group of bitches, pardon my language, whole new group of females and we ready to get crazy. It was good. A whole new staff. It was even dope to see the girl
Starting point is 00:12:41 I'm so mad I can't think of her name, who graduated from South carolina last year who was hosting on espn during the game um with the rest of the girls but she was the number one pick i believe last year out of south carolina and even before she started doing an interview um post game to see her tears to see her joy to see her emotion because it was like good i wasn't a part of it but i'm here for more my young girls got y'all yeah i'm with all that and then uh ironically they're probably going to be teammates so man i can't think of the girl's name but you know that she plays for the team elliot boston yeah because she's on the indiana fever and which is right
Starting point is 00:13:23 first pick for the wNBA draft, yeah. Right, exactly. I was going to say how ironic is that. She going to be friends with Kayla next year. Right. But also, you know, while we're still on this, I watched a lot of commentary over the weekend because it wasn't just last night.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Even Friday's night game where UConn was a thriller, it was a great game. You know, South Carolina got North Carolina State out of here fairly easily. But I was watching Diana Taurasi, and they was talking about, you know, they're all UConn players that was kind of talking. And when they beat UConn, they was giving Kaitlin mad praise
Starting point is 00:14:08 and everything else. And, you know, he's a little disappointed that UConn lost. But they asked, I remember Scott Van Pelt said, is there any word that you want to use Diana Taurasi, that is? And I don't know if our fans to use, Diana Taurasi, that is? And I don't know if our fans are familiar with Diana Taurasi, but she's a monster. She went to UConn and got busy and gets busy in the WNBA. When they asked them,
Starting point is 00:14:35 what do you have for the young girls coming into the WNBA? She looked at the camera and said, reality. And she said, there's levels to this. She said, I'm not saying Caitlyn's game or anybody else's game won't translate in the WNBA, but it's a course. It doesn't happen that easily. In our exact words, it's levels to this.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So he said reality. And the great thing about this is that we don't even have to wait that long. The WNBA season is probably like- Yeah, this is like two, three even have to wait that long the wmba this is like two three months yeah exactly so we're gonna see about all that early but as far as what you said murder to make my last point is that when dawn said that caitlin's gonna lift the wmba yeah she said that the WNBA more. Yeah, she's looking at that. I've seen it. She's 100% right because what's going on
Starting point is 00:15:28 is this. This girl is getting NBA postseason views. She's getting playoff views on a women's college game which has never happened before.
Starting point is 00:15:41 So therefore, now television is looking like, oh, she could draw this many millions? She could draw this many millions? She could draw this many millions? And I don't know exactly how the contracts work in the WNBA. Maybe I'll do some due diligence
Starting point is 00:15:54 on it this week. But if she's dictating how much the WNBA army can make on television games because she's going to be playing. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:10 We got to figure out the budget for me because if I'm Caitlyn, the big three is waiting for me. Yeah, $5 million. $5 million to go play for Ice Cube. Yeah, five M&Ms is waiting for me. So why would I sit here and take $100,000? I know I got my endorsements where I'm going to make $5 million anyway, but 5 plus 5 equals 10. So I don't
Starting point is 00:16:30 understand how this is going to work moving forward. And the reason Don Stanley said that is because next year, the WNBA's contract is up with these TV deals and they have to renegotiate. And if you got Caitlin Clark in the WNBA,
Starting point is 00:16:46 that's a big deal because odds are going to be on her. I don't know how her, her staff, her parents, whoever, her agent runs her business, but this is the time to start figuring out the cheat code. I don't know how it's going to work
Starting point is 00:16:59 because I don't have to be here. Yeah. Yeah, and I think Ice Cube will need security if he get on the big three. Because he'll be messing up a lot of money. He'll be messing up a lot of money without going to the big three.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Can you imagine the day that she signed with the big three? What it'll be like for television? Because they're all banking on her to show up with the number one pick you know so if she doesn't show up that could be a new wrinkle in the whole system
Starting point is 00:17:34 exactly what you're saying so this is going to be really interesting and this is the time where she needs definitely a good agent. She needs a good agent. She might need Michael Jordan agents.
Starting point is 00:17:52 She needs somebody. Where's Rich Paul at, man? Rich Paul needs to be snatching up, man. Yeah, I'm surprised he's not on it. Yeah, Rich Paul. You know, he got Juju rocking, so I got to talk to him about it. Yeah, Juju Watkins and Kaylin, but I feel you. She could be.
Starting point is 00:18:13 She could be. She could be. Let me not put my foot in my mouth. I'm about to say, Juju Watkins got another three years. She was actually second leading the women's in scoring this year gino ariyama told her get out of here now he said we don't need you around here fucking of you con shit every year get on out of here he told her to leave early so yeah she's not caitlin now but she definitely has potential
Starting point is 00:18:39 so also adding to this conversation because this does lead to deeper conversations right so Caitlin Clark will be leaving college without a title do you guys believe she needed one to really become considered the goat of college basketball absolutely not she had 3,000 and she had 3,951 points I mean and she's always shown up on the grand stage. This is what one of the things that I really like about her is that she's never really not showed up. You know how with most players that have a storybook career, they end up going out on one of those games where they didn't perform as well. they end up going out on one of those games where they didn't perform as well. She even ended with 30 points against a super stacked South Carolina team.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I mean, and she was wearing my number, Stat. What you want me to say? Greatness comes from that number. Me, Clyde Drexler, Caitlin Clark, and the list goes on. I can't even, I'm not even going to get into this with Cam. I see him turning his face. Jim Jackson,
Starting point is 00:19:53 Michael Redd, you know, and the list, Mace, and the list goes on. I was expecting it in my number. I may have left something in the number, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:03 pause. Bunch of niggas who ain't winning nothing. Everybody you name. I may have left something in the number, you know? Pause. Bunch of niggas who ain't winning nothing. Everybody names. All fell short. That's true, too. All niggas got right there. They got right there. You right, too. Cly right there. You right too.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Clyde won, he cheated. Yeah, Drexler won, but Jim Jackson, Michael Redd. Clyde didn't get his in Portland though. He cheated and went man down to Houston for a minute. Look to me, I agree, man. I ain't counting no championship to make her to go. She didn't have the weapons on her team. Look, I'm not I agree, man. I ain't counting no championship to make her to go. She didn't have the weapons on her team. Look.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Yeah. Look, I'm not gasping, man. I do not know how she got to the championship, man. I really don't know. I really don't know how I did that. And Mace makes a great point. She didn't shy away from the moment, man. Didn't shy away.
Starting point is 00:21:02 No. It's a lot of time. And Killer, it was a lot of niggas who came pause through the Division I for her to even pass niggas on the guy's side. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Look, like I said, stepping up to the plate when it matters, matters, man. You know, I was watching some clips over the weekend
Starting point is 00:21:27 and LeBron was talking about how it was his fault against the Dallas Mavericks series in the championship because he couldn't get it done. And he was having four points in the fourth, two points in the fourth, eight in the fourth. And he took accountability.
Starting point is 00:21:44 He sure did. But fourth quarter in the fourth two points in the fourth eighth in the fourth and he took accountability he sure did but fourth quarter in the championship elimination games or when you got niggas back because you don't go nowhere she never went anywhere even when she passed the ball it was more it was the right thing to do but it was almost the right thing to do on the second note because you see somebody open, you pass the ball, but you got to think when you're in this mindset, when you're on your best play on the team and you know your personnel, you're like, okay, she's open, but I got a one-on-one. Damn, here come the double team.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Let me do the right basketball play and pass it. And she was doing that because at the end of the day, you can't beat double and triple teams all game it's just not going to happen it's not so um to answer the question nah she don't need no championship to be the goat that girl the goat man i got a goat she did it with all the pressure on her man yeah and her supporting cast was not i, that was a miracle. Everything she was doing was miraculous with that team. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:52 See, for her, obviously at the end of the game, she was super, super emotional because a lot of the WNBA players who got multiple college championships, they feel like she does need it to solidify her status. So I could see that kind of being like like i wonder if the it was all the connecticut players yeah it was yeah that's what i was telling you they were saying on that play i don't know why you know gino didn't come back and and challenge it but that's that's what all that is about. They wanted UConn to win.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Well, listen, even if, and just so the viewers know what we're talking about, we're referring to the game on Friday when Iowa was playing UConn, and they called an off-the-ball foul on UConn with probably about four seconds left, something like that.
Starting point is 00:23:44 But the thing about it is Iowa's up one. Kaitlin Clark gets fouled with three seconds left. After that call, I think that was a terrible call. After that call, she goes to the foul line, makes the first one, misses the second one with three seconds, a little over three seconds, and UConn doesn't get the rebound. You get the rebound, call timeout, you have another chance. So that was UConn's fault.
Starting point is 00:24:12 I'm feeling them on the call, but if you don't secure the defensive rebound, it wasn't meant for you. Yeah. The moment was too big for them. Pause. That's what it was. Heard you there. Okay. And then Cam spoke about a little bit earlier, but Diana Taurasi said reality is coming to the players entering the draft.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I'm just curious. How do you guys feel like the college players? Cause I feel like the college players are independent stars, which is why, you know, we follow them more because they have a story. They make themselves more marketable. Do you guys think that people will follow these players to the WNBA or do you think it's going to be a struggle curious how you guys think the future will be um first of all I'll say yeah for Caitlyn and I think is a different I think is a different statement that she's making. When she says that reality is coming in the WNBA, I think she's more so trying to downplay if Caitlyn's game is going to translate.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Even though people say that's not what they're saying, it's kind of what she's insinuating. She's trying to say, oh, she's going to be playing against grown women, you know, women with their heads shaved, all of that, a total tougher, different type of woman. And to me, I wouldn't say that. I don't think you could just say that, you know. You can't say what everybody's process is going to be.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Some people come to the pros and get crazier. There's times when guys and women were not as good in college and they got to the pro level and excelled. So just like that's another reality. And I hate when people try to make their situation or their transition somebody else's transition. Everybody is different. And if anybody's different, Kaitlyn Clark is different. I don't see her getting to the WNBA and shine away. And because she's going to be on a team that they got to let her go crazy. I think it's an injustice if she doesn't go crazy, because that makes the league bigger if she's a sensation. It's almost like when Wimby came to the league, they were putting things in play to make sure Wimby does well, because if he does well, the NBA future is secure.
Starting point is 00:26:48 If Kaitlyn Clark comes to Indiana and have a great first year, even the monies are going to change for the WNBA. And you can quote me on that. If she come there and turn up, they're going to need all new salaries because she's bringing television viewers and i don't know whoever brought that to the league i'm not um i haven't done my research on that but she's bringing another thing to the league makes i just said that i don't know what you're listening to but i actually just said that.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I don't know what you're listening to, but I actually just said that a little while ago when I said the TV bill is up. Yeah, I just threw that in at the end of the transition. Well, I don't know what you're listening to. I threw that in there so you could speak. That's how you normally... That's normally how you hand the pass back off, Cam. I don't pass.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I don't pass. I don't know. I know that. If anybody knows you don't pass, it's me. I'm not the guy you have to tell you don't pass. I think I know that. Oh, it's been funny. I knew you. I passed that to Oh, it's been funny. I knew you. I gave you the – I passed that to you actually just now.
Starting point is 00:28:09 It's that. You think I need to know that stat by now? Hey, man. Yeah, but, yeah, to go on top of Poe, what Mace just said is that he's 100% right. Things are going to get bigger. And this is what I will say to answer your question about Diana Taurasi and the rest of the females
Starting point is 00:28:31 that UConn now was hating. Mace is right. Everybody's transition is not the same. Some people are slower. Some people are faster. Some people won't excel at all. Some people excel quicker than others. But what Caitlyn will have that these other females didn't have is the eyeballs on her.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Because women's college basketball, not saying it wasn't big, but she made that shit this year the biggest ever pause. So what you are going to have is eyeballs on you. And like we said in the same segment earlier, I don't think she shies away from moments. I think she wants these type of moments. I think she lives for these type of moments. So no matter what, no matter what the transition is,
Starting point is 00:29:16 that has yet to be determined. But I know one thing, the games will be televised. I don't know ESPN2. I don't know CBS, ABC, Fox, NBC. They will be televised. I don't know ESPN2. I don't know CBS, ABC, Fox, NBC. They will be on television. Absolutely. So that's up to her. She has another big moment coming up this year because she's still going to be being watched. And if she does well, like Mace just said with Wendy, it looks good for the WNBA for the next however many seasons. He's 22 years old. Yeah, and this is what they've wanted, Killer.
Starting point is 00:29:48 This is more so what I was getting at. This is what the WNBA been trying to get for the longest, trying to get people to watch the games. So if you got somebody who brings at least a million more viewers, you got to make sure they do well. That's a part of their business model, to make sure that Caitlyn does well. So I don't know what Taurasi is talking about. I love Taurasi as a player, but that statement is like an old nigga
Starting point is 00:30:17 talking about young niggas rapping. It's just not going to go over well. Unless Murda, and I'm not saying that it is going to go over well. Unless murder, and I'm not saying that it is going to go over well or not go over well, unless they all getting together. This sounds like everybody. This sounds like everybody was on the group line, on the group text. This thing she killing. Because her exact words was, you're not going to be out there
Starting point is 00:30:44 playing with 18-year-olds and 19-year 19 year olds i'm like yeah this is crazy so i think it's a group text i think diana was the spokesperson i don't think it's just so i think they all together waiting to do this girl dirty pause i hope that's not the case. But then the last question concerning this topic before we go to break. So we saw All-Star game. It was the Steph versus Sabrina three-point contest. All-Star 2025. They're looking into making Clay versus Kaitlyn Clark. Is that a matchup that you guys would like to see?
Starting point is 00:31:21 No, because Kaitlyn might win it. Right now, Kaitlyn might win it.'m not gonna lie to you instead what happened to the women's empowerment women are hating on women that's i thought that was a black girl thing i didn't know that that um you know now the women do that um i don't agree with that but i think i think they're just being tough on her. Like, it's just like, look like. But like she she's already super humble. Like nobody's trying to, you know, people are just saying things. I don't think it was with any hate or ill intentions at all.
Starting point is 00:31:57 No, that is where hate is. You get the undertone was you getting too much attention. That's what I picked up. You're getting you're getting too much attention. That's what I picked up. You getting too much attention, you know? Enough with this Caitlin Clark stuff. I shoot the ball, too. You know one of them attitudes, killer. I shoot the ball, too.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Hey, man, listen. You know how that shit go when you a senior and a freshman come in and you don't even want to hear it. Even if they supposed to be all American or that he the best nigga recruited. No, I don't want to hear all that, man. Nigga got a problem with himself. Yeah, nigga got to die for this spot.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Nigga want this spot. Nigga going to have to die. That's how it be, man. When you're a little older and you think that you're better or just as good as somebody, man. But the original question was, what's that? Basically,
Starting point is 00:32:56 so All-Star 2025, they're looking into the three-point game. Yeah, that's what it was. See, that's what I'm trying to say. That was good because it was steph curry against uh sabrina which was great it was dope i think my personal opinion sabrina may have something to say about who the best shooter is sabrina may be like yo
Starting point is 00:33:20 caitlin cool but i i shoot. I'm a sniper. Like, nigga, I snipe shit because she snipes shit. And she snipes shit in the WNBA. And she was sniping shit in college. Let's not act like she wasn't nice in college. I ain't going to say she was Caitlyn. But listen, she grew up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I think I wouldn't want to see that before her against Klay because, yeah, Mason's right. What if Clay lose, fuck shit up? You gotta deal with the woman talking crazy to us. They already talking crazy. Yeah, we be the three time chairman or four time chairman, all that, it's over.
Starting point is 00:33:57 It's over. See, Steph wasn't with all that. Yeah. But I'm not against it. If that's what what they're doing they got a lot of viewership and notoriety then i'm with it but i just think that uh as far as shooters are concerned i think sabrina gonna have something to say about this shooting shit i really do and then as far as the actual matchup is clay who you would want to see versus Caitlyn, or is there another player that comes to mind?
Starting point is 00:34:28 No, we don't need to see Klay shooting versus anybody right now. Klay has got to get his name back, yo. You got to get your name back, Klay. And these over here are Klay Thompson fans. You got to get your name back. We don't need you that oh you you already did what you did at golden state we do not need you to get in that all-star weekend and be the first shooter that lose to a woman then we're set back
Starting point is 00:34:57 we're set back play we don't need you to set us back anymore. Yeah, I'm still going with Sabrina. Look, leave the niggas out of this, man. Now Sabrina will be Clay, flat out. I don't even have to see it. Sabrina will be Clay. And see, that's sad.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Clay, we gotta say this. Sometimes people are like, yo, I can't believe that say this sometimes people like yo i can't believe that nigga may said that i can't believe you making me say this like that's the real problem y'all putting us in a position to say this like we should never be talking like this please make it right for real because sometimes people are like, oh, them niggas is going crazy. It's like, no. We should never be in a position
Starting point is 00:35:51 where now we're talking about can Caitlyn beat Klay in a shootout? That shouldn't be the case right now. But this is what happened. Niggas start playing with you. They're going to keep playing with you until you put your, put your, put,
Starting point is 00:36:07 put, put them in a place. That's that. Okay. So we're going to go to break. When we return, we're going to talk a little bit more college hoops, but this time NC state's DJ Burns jr. Don't go anywhere. She called this thing about toxic Junior, Don't Go Anywhere. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. So tonight, UConn will play Purdue for the national championship. Tonight, UConn will play Purdue for the national championship. Underdog Fantasy has UConn's Tristan Newton at 15.5 points.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Do you have them higher or lower, Mace? Higher. Okay, Cam? I'm going to go with Mace, say higher. Okay, UConn's Cam Spencer is at 6.5 first half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? I think his name was Cam. Gotta go higher, man. Yeah, he better have higher pass, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Disrespect the name, man. Yeah, Cam's gonna have more than six. Okay, and then Purdue's seven-foot Zach is at 14 rebounds and assists. That's your boy, Mace. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? I think he's going to be right there at 14, but I'm going to still go higher.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I'm going to still go higher. Yep. I'm going to go low. I'm going to go low. I'm going to go low. I think Edie is two seasons for him. I ain't like him. I was getting dunked on all last game. You did all right.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Niggas was acting crazy. You want him on Alabama dunking on the nigga and all that. I'm going low. Edie going to be too much for that man. Okay. Download the Underdog KC app and you can make your picks too. So previously before the NC State game, in an interview, DJ Burns Jr. was asked his comparison to produce Zach Eady.
Starting point is 00:38:36 He said, seven inch difference. No ditty. What do y'all think about him saying that? And that being his response. That was good. It lets you know that they're watching us. Also, I think he spoke his own demise when he did that. Because he put that out there, it kind of showed up in the game
Starting point is 00:39:02 because he ended up looking Paul was too big for him. He said that before the game or after the game? That was before the game, I think. Oh, no, I was just asking. I wasn't sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I didn't mean to cut you off. No, that was it he said that so whenever somebody saying yo the nigga's too tall the nigga's too this that already lets you know that the nigga ain't really was prepared it was already psychological
Starting point is 00:39:38 with him look you know what happens, you know, certain shit for a while becomes culture, not culture. And some shit sticks and some shit leaves. Pause. I don't know. No Diddy may be around in a few more months. No, nigga's going to say no Diddy.
Starting point is 00:40:00 It's culture right now. It's like, remember how I was doing this dance? Whatever that was. It's culture right now. It's like, remember how I was doing this dance? Whatever that was. What the nigga? The Junebug or whatever the fuck that was. Do it again, killer. The Junebug, nigga was doing the Junebug for about a year.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Was that on Spottum Gottem? Was that Spottum Gottem? Nah, remember the nigga who looked like Gilly? He had the shit going on the Junebug like three years ago. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Four remember the nigga who looked like Gilly? He had the shit going to Junebug like three years ago. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Four-head nigga, and everybody was doing it. It might have been Spottam.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I don't know the song. They played one song behind it the whole time. And I even liked everyone. That was a different one. Spottam got him with that. Spottam got him with a different dance, right, Stat? I don't know which dances y'all was referring to. You know what your fair share
Starting point is 00:40:46 stat I know you did it I know you did it I don't know what that is this was just two years ago Junebug dance I do not recall everybody did it it wasn't even an age dance what was that
Starting point is 00:40:59 old people the one I know is like the that one but know is like the That one, but that's not the same thing. Junebug, everybody was doing it. Yeah, that's why I told him to do it again. He probably went back to the dance. I'm telling you, Gilly made it hot, yo.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I'm telling you, Gilly made it hot. Oh yeah, I know which way you're talking about. Yeah, you right. Now you know what I'm talking about. How'd the dance go, Murda? Murda, how the dance go? I don't know how to do it right. Niggas was, it wasn't even that much.
Starting point is 00:41:32 All he was doing was moving his arms like this. It wasn't even a big deal. Yeah, you right. See, that's what I'm saying. Nigga, Murda was a dancer now. He only wants to show niggas his moves before it's like, I'm asking him to get in the circle and break dance. This nigga, nigga was a dancer, yo.
Starting point is 00:41:53 He wasn't the nigga that throw his arms over, his legs over his arms and that. And bust his split and then come back. Yeah, nah, he wasn't one of them niggas, but he know how to get the crowd. Anyway, motherfucking, you made me forget the question thing,
Starting point is 00:42:10 looking for the June bug. I'm pissed right now. Y'all don't know, Stat don't know the June bug. What's the question, Stat? Basically, yes. Yo, listen, it's culture for a little minute, man. And when it's culture, motherfucker, when it's culture,
Starting point is 00:42:27 I found this nigga too. I'm going to get that song. When it's culture, it goes on for a little while. As far as what Mason just said, him saying it before the game, first of all, pause. He did the right thing saying pause. He wants to say pause.
Starting point is 00:42:39 That was correct. Secondly, look, man, if he said that before the game, I don't like it. But to be honest with you, he may have been the most entertaining player on Saturday night out of both
Starting point is 00:42:55 games. And I don't just mean with the ball, pause. Without the ball, too, he moves, he said, pick. He was very interesting pause to watch. Left-handed, low post game. And you could tell he wasn't really in basketball shape. He like in some football shape.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I heard the NFL and all that is looking at this nigga too. Very agile, very soft touch around the basket. If he's not a senior, I would be looking forward to see him play next year. But they're going to definitely have to find somebody bigger. Not saying that everybody's going to be 7'2", but he looks like a great power forward and not a center, man. Very agile. I like the way that guy plays, man. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Did he remind you of Big Baby? Pause. I think he was a little more skilled than Big Baby. Like, you know, I don't know because he was left-handed. You know them left-handed niggas be looking? Yeah. He'd be looking cool with them niggas. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:52 So, I'm not sure, baby. This shit's that. Y'all remember this? Oh. Isn't that Spot that is bottom got him no it is bottom got him a little bit yeah but that's the nigga like go ahead huh yeah i know what you're talking about i bet you won't that's what i what you're talking about. I bet you won't. That's what I thought you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Name is Junebug, man. It's called the Junebug Tennis. You don't even know the dances of your times. The way y'all said it, same way I talked to you. You don't tell us that. You're frowning upon us. You're frowning upon us because we don't know spongebob now we don't know nothing you didn't say that obviously y'all are hip but the way it was explained
Starting point is 00:44:53 confused me but i'm caught up you know we're all caught up and so is the audience now okay so moving along gotta discuss brony James. So we did previously talk about him declaring that he would be transferring, but he also will be declaring for the NBA draft this year while also still, you know, keeping his transfer eligibility. He will work out for and visit NBA teams and make a draft decision based on evaluation. How do you guys feel about him even entering the draft and the decision that he has made?
Starting point is 00:45:30 I would love to talk to a few guys that work in the NBA that are like away or outside of the camp that he's a part of so I could get more of a fair assessment from their vantage point because from, like Cam says, the eyeball test, I mean, he's going to make the league definitely because his dad has said in 2022 that wherever Bronny goes, that's where he will be at. So I think there's some validity to that. And I think anybody's looking into this offseason has got to be considering that. If we get LeBron,
Starting point is 00:46:15 we draft his son, not only do we get LeBron, but we get a storybook ending. You know what I'm saying? No matter where he played at, this will be one of those places that have a lot of fanfare. It raises the ticket sales. It's so much money and so much Paul's eye candy with just a dad being able to play with his son. It's something that's never been done. I don't think I've ever seen that. So I know there's people that have played with their brothers. There's people that play with their cousins, boss, but we've never seen this. So whatever franchise get to host this event, because it'll be an event every day, because it almost will be like he's playing, but he's coaching his son. He's almost there
Starting point is 00:47:01 rooting his son on. I mean, the pitches alone will be worth a lot of money. So I think him going in the portal is just something to say realistically. But I think him going to the NBA is a foregone conclusion because his draft stock can't get any lower than what it is right now. But I think he could do well in the NBA. I don't put that past him as well. I'm just giving the facts about where we are today. It's been done not in basketball,
Starting point is 00:47:39 in baseball. Ken Griffey Jr. and Eshwaba played together before, but not in basketball. but it has happened in baseball before. Look, these are some smart businessmen manipulating the whole system. When I say that, I'm talking about whether it's LeBron James, Bronny James, Rich Paul, Maverick, Savannah, his little brother, whoever else we don't know, UTA. I don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:48:12 But they manipulate the system to the highest level. And I don't knock that. This nigga's entering the draft while still staying in the portal. knock that. This nigga's entering the draft while still staying in the portal. So, if the draft don't go right,
Starting point is 00:48:32 and the right school need a good guard still at this point in the year, or whatever point in the year they get to, you have the option to say, oh, nah, nah, Ohio State, they cleared out at Point Garden's good, or Michigan cleared out, or, nah, Ohio State, it cleared out at Point Garden's good,
Starting point is 00:48:47 or Michigan cleared out, or North Carolina, or whatever. Yeah. You still have that option while still having the option to go to NBA. See, and, you know, every time we talk about certain shit, I always hate to be like, you know, because I used to be that 19-year-old, 20-year-old nigga and be like, yo, I don't want to hear all that shit,
Starting point is 00:49:07 what niggas used to be doing. But sometimes you got to hear some of this shit. I understand where it's coming from. You know what I'm saying? Because you have to go through that. That ain't really our problem, my nigga. So with that disclaimer, what I'm saying is when I played in the 90s, once you applied to be in the NBA draft, you couldn't go back to college.
Starting point is 00:49:33 That would have changed a few years ago. I don't know. Maybe 10 years ago now. I don't know how many years ago it was. But to the point where even if you get elected to go to the NBA draft and you don't like it, you can go back to school now. Yeah, Ricky Rubio. Yeah, so Ricky Rubio went back overseas,
Starting point is 00:49:53 but now you have the option to go back to school, and it's even better because you're probably making NIL money anyway. So it ain't like you're not saying you ain't going to make some M's, but you're like, I'm making enough to eat anyway. I'm not talking about just Bronny. I'm just talking about the system. Yeah. The system is wild to where, back to Bron and his family and Bronny,
Starting point is 00:50:16 the way they manipulated to the highest level is amazing because a lot of people will say, LeBron, and some of the stuff I probably wouldn't have done LeBron did is amazing because a lot of people will say, LeBron, and some of the stuff I probably wouldn't have done, LeBron didn't either as a player, but I understand as a businessman, you know, LeBron sits there, goes to Miami, delivers two championships.
Starting point is 00:50:42 See Kyrie is doing good. He said, listen, let me go back to Cleveland, get this championship, I promise them. In the said listen let me go back to Cleveland get this championship I promise them in the meantime let me GM this shit too I don't want Andrew Wiggins give me the Kevin Love nigga that nigga yeah the Kevin Love nigga I need him with me so now he's GMing
Starting point is 00:50:58 playing calling the shots now the owner gotta kiss his ass cause remember LeBron didn't leave on good terms with the owner so now LeBron got everything in the shots. Now the owner got to kiss his ass because remember LeBron didn't leave on good terms with the owner. So now LeBron got everything in the palm of his hands because the owner like that's a miracle this nigga even came back because I told you this nigga kick rocks basically when he left
Starting point is 00:51:13 the first time. Delivers the championship, goes to LA, gets to LA, opens up a successful sports agency with his right hand man, opens up a successful production company with his left-hand man, and they're getting mad money all in the family, and now they're manipulating the NBA situation
Starting point is 00:51:31 with his son. Look. Yeah. I asked Mace, how do you know Spanish? Boss, the nigga said he had the answers on his fingertips. I know what you think. I'm mad at that.
Starting point is 00:51:43 I'm mad I didn't think of it. Yeah. on his fingertips. I know what you think. I'm mad at that. I'm mad I didn't think of it. Yeah, and now his wife, not that she needs it at all, I mean, obviously, but now she's going to do the podcast and he's doing the podcast, so they're going to also control the narrative. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:06 You cannot control this any better than LeBron James. Say what you want as a basketball player. He's not Jordan, whatever you want to say. Nobody has a better business resume. Maybe Magic Johnson, but after LeBron got the lifetime deal with Nike, and they threw him over the – we don't even know what that deal is. Nick just said lifetime deal. We don't even know.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I think this nigga business acumen is amazing. And it is. Okay. So the Sixers sat out Joel Embiid for injury management on his left knee. The Sixers still won 133 to 126 in double overtime tyrese max he dropped 52 points but just in general is mb's injuries becoming more of a concern for you or do you guys think the sixers can hold it on their own that's a good question i think both i think both answers are right not one or the other i think both are answers are right when it comes to his health his health is
Starting point is 00:53:15 definitely of concern um but you know some people would say well it was their first time they're playing a back-to-back game since he's been back, and we're not ready to put that kind of rigorous thing on his body. But when you think about it, Paul, he shouldn't be out there if he's not ready to play. And that's what I was speaking to earlier, that you're running the risk of hurting him again, and I don't think that's really worth it with the team that they have.
Starting point is 00:53:44 It would be better if they let all of them ball out this year and then just come back next year. Their future will be stronger because of that. But if everybody's balling and you throw Joel Embiid back in there, then it's like you're bringing the ball back out of their hands again. So that's the first thing. So I think both of those answers are true, that they can ball out without him. And it's also definitely imperative that they pay close attention to what they're doing with his health. Because if he get any way hurt in the least bit, you run the risk of running another injured Joel Embiid all of next season, or at least for a bulk of that season,
Starting point is 00:54:29 and then you ran the risk of losing two years that you could have won a championship or at least got to the finals? Yeah, sit them to go. If he hurts, sit him out. If you want to play, let him play. I'm going to keep it real. I'm of the mindset of Mace is that if this was any other year, I would have the same exact mindset that Mace has.
Starting point is 00:54:58 He's a franchise player. You don't need him hurting the whole next season. You're running the risk of that all of those things are correct but how many seasons we giving this like god damn how many years is the process it's like nine
Starting point is 00:55:20 years bro it's like eight nine years ago it started with Markel false yeah yeah like bro we're not gonna sit here and say well we're running the risk well run the risk man i'm tired of this nigga with the process and yo give him one more yo no run the risk bro run the risk my nigga we gotta run it we gotta run it we. We can't. So we gotta wait all summer, then a whole nother 82 games for you to say
Starting point is 00:55:49 maybe this might happen again. Run the risk for me, but you, listen, you are talking absolute general manager's mindset, a player looking out for a coach, a GM president looking out for the organization,
Starting point is 00:56:08 doing what's in the best bet of the organization. That's 100% correct. I'm talking from a Philadelphia fan point of view. Fuck all that. Run the risk. I don't got time, yo. I don't got time fucking with these niggas. Next year, he be talking about his contract almost up
Starting point is 00:56:26 and he need more money and we ain't seen the process yet man does anybody know when the process ends that's the question that's the big question they say trust the process
Starting point is 00:56:42 when does the process end when can we collect? Exactly. This is a, this, I'm sick of niggas that be like, yo, the joy is in the process. Where is the finished result? Yeah. Come on, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I'm gonna come on my nigga for Dalmori on this. Yeah, and I'm gonna keep it a hundred murders, but you gotta realize is this, and it'm going to keep it 100 murder, but you got to realize is this, and it may sound funny and it may laugh and it's not really a joke. The process started, stat was 13, B. Yeah, stat.
Starting point is 00:57:15 That's what I'm saying, man. Like, yo, stat was probably 12 when the process started, bro. Yo, nah, risk running, bro. Run and get out there, bro. Double dutch still when the process started. Stat just got to middle school when the process started. Yo, running out into the pools, man.
Starting point is 00:57:31 You had a lunchbox, Stat. You had a lunchbox when the process started. You had a SpongeBob joint. You see what I'm saying, man? Nah, that nigga got a running murder. Yeah, you're right. Nah, we can't keep letting it talk about we're running the risk. I dig it.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Trust me, I dig it. But, yo, come on, man. Come on, I dig it. And they have money back on the process. That's what we need to know. They have money back guarantee. That's when my man says city shit come in. I don't want to make sense.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yeah. Yeah, I don't feel like making sense right in. I don't want to make sense. Yeah. Yeah. I don't feel like making sense right now, Mace. Run it. I would love to hear what Sin City got to say about this. Sin, if you're watching, let us know what you think about this. Sin ain't going to ask nothing about this related. All he's going to talk about is why we don't talk more about the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Now, real quick, Stan, let me ask Mace a couple things. Look, look at Nick in the background. And Nick in the background talking about we don't talk enough about the Knicks. All right, Nick, you too. You and Sinkers. Niggas got mad gripes with us like we don't know the Knicks history. Mace, let me ask you. I'll ask you the question.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I told niggas, and I don't know how you feel about Knicks, Nick. You can shake your head and pause, yes or no, whatever. But niggas act like that the NBA don't want the Knicks to have a good team. It's the fucking method, B. Why wouldn't they want them to have a good
Starting point is 00:59:02 team? So Sin wants to know, Murder, why haven't the Knicks had a number one pick since 1985 Patrick Ewing? And is that fair? That's a good question. You went deep on pause, yo. Sin, that makes sense. I didn't expect us to be good with no number one picks? That's what Sin is saying right there.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Yeah, yeah, Sin in the house like this, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got a point, Sin. Because they definitely did something funny by giving us the third pick when it came to Ja Morant and Zion. That's when I knew it was rigged. I'm going to tell you the truth. For me, that's when I That's when I knew it was rigged. I'm going to tell you the truth. For me, that's when I checked out. I knew it was rigged.
Starting point is 00:59:49 They don't want us to win. They don't want us to win. He mad about that one, too. I'm speaking for Sam right now. This is the way he thinks. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they don't want us to win. Third person.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I'm just saying, yo. Don't say I didn I speak up for you. That's exactly how New York fans feel. They just knew they was getting Zion. And when they didn't get Zion, they just knew they was getting Ja. And then after they get Ja, it's like, man, you just don't want no Andre Barrett Nigga You don't want no Andre Barrett
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Starting point is 01:00:59 We wanted Zion. We thought he was in the Zion sweepstakes, man. Niggas will take Zion to the right food spots, make sure he stay in shape. Niggas need Zion. They still need Zion right now, to this day. Yeah, Steve Sin is mad about that.
Starting point is 01:01:23 And then, so what is your last point about this? Do you think it's fair and what should be done about it? Yeah, I don't think it was fair. I think, I don't know, because you're right. The NBA does better when New York, Miami, and L.A. is playing well. When there's a California team in the NBA or Dallas or, you know, New York or Miami, one of those hot markets, the NBA is just a better league. It's a better league. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:01:55 So what do you think should fix it? Because there's lottery balls, Poise, that, you know, even if you got the worst record. They would give niggas the lottery this year. Let's say, not that they could, but I'm saying this would be the year they give the Knicks the lottery when it ain't nobody niggas really want. You know what I'm saying? Niggas end up with 80 or something like that. Niggas would be like, oh, we got 80.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Oh, we got 80. That's all we needed was a solid big man. Like, niggas always want to give New York the best of the worst, man. I remember we got Kenny Skywalker. That was tight, bro. Yeah, yeah, I hated Kenny Skywalker. Why we didn't get Rex Chapman, man? Yeah, Kenny Skywalker was stink, poor. Niggas thought they killed him when he won the dunk contest.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Now y'all seen Sky? I ain't calling that nigga Sky. And then, listen, last thing I'll ask you and Stat this. This is more New York Knicks shit since we don't get New York Knicks on the show. Let me ask y'all, right now, not overall career,
Starting point is 01:03:03 not what they've done for their whole career, just this season. New York Knicks fans and others believe that Jalen Brunson is the best point guard in the NBA right now. I'll tell y'all what I said
Starting point is 01:03:18 after I hear you guys' opinion. Is Jalen Brunson the best point guard in the NBA right now? No, absolutely not. What? Absolutely not. Who you got?
Starting point is 01:03:35 This is New York Knicks questions. You just had 43 on day one last night. Brunson is dead nice, but I don't have him above Steph. I don't have him above SGA. This season, Murr, remember we talking about this season. Yeah, this season. We talking this season. I don't have him above SGA.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I don't have him above Steph. And, you know, I don't really put nobody above Kyrie, Killer. I don't care what they do. Yeah, Kyrie had 48 last night. Yes. Kyrie went crazy. I got him right after that. I got him right after that.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Yeah, so I had to put some money in front of Kyrie because Kyrie been so quiet that we almost forgetting about Kyrie. Yeah, he just ain't getting in no trouble. He still getting buckets. When they was talking crazy about Brunson and talking about how crazy he was playing, Kyrie was almost identical. It's just he wasn't in the papers and he was in Dallas.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Yep, and not only that, the garden sheds a different light on you as well. Who do you believe is the best point guards in the NBA right now? Best point guards right now? Is Jalen Brunson the best point guard for New York Knicks? No, and it's not even dating.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Like, he's playing well, but I don't think anybody agrees with that except Knicks fans. It's like that sense of delusion that you're in. Shout out to y'all, but it's the truth. Like, nobody's saying that. He'susion that you're in. Shout out to y'all, but it's the truth. Nobody's saying that. He's not in no conversation for that. Yo, look at Nick's face. Nick just lost all love for you.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Y'all know? It's the truth. Just lost all the love for you in that one moment. New York niggas right now, what they doing? What does she know? What does she know? Who is she? She doesn't know Paul. Now they got to discredit you. Who is she? What does she know? Who is she?
Starting point is 01:05:27 They got to discredit you. Who is she? What does she know? Who do you got at the top of the list for your point guards in the NBA right now? Probably SGA. Honestly, I mean, Luka, but the Mavs are okay right now. Yeah, I'd put SGA one right now.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Who after SGA? I'm thinking, like, I'm leaning towards Luka because I still think he's great, but there's plenty of other people. Luka the point. He's second for me. I got Luka second. I got
Starting point is 01:06:03 SGA first. I got Luka me. I got Lucas second. I got SGA first. I got Lucas second. I got Steph third, Kyrie fourth, and then I got Jalen Brunson. Just to clarify, because when you say Steph third, people be like, but we're talking about this season. Yeah. Yeah, Steph overall don't even ask questions about overall, but this season just what he's doing by himself. And to be honest with you, I may trade that order
Starting point is 01:06:31 and put Jalen in front of Steph just for this season. I may put Jalen fourth and Steph fifth because Steph is carrying the golden – No, no, no, I'm just looking at overall. Steph is carrying his team, no doubt. That's not a doubt. But it ain't like it ain't his niggas. It ain't a new bunch of niggas. Y'all,
Starting point is 01:06:51 you knew your personnel. You know these niggas. Y'all won championships together. Jalen Brunson, to be totally honest with you, three of the Knicks starting five have been hurt majority of the season. They get OG, OG gets hurt as soon as he gets there.
Starting point is 01:07:08 He just coming back. Now we find out Julius Randle is out for the rest of the season. The center Mitchell been out since December. That's three. And then it was somebody else who went out. They have four starting five out. And majority time, three of the starting five out, and Jalen Brunson is still getting the win, still got him in the 4-5 seed without the usual personality he was used to last year,
Starting point is 01:07:35 and plus with additional trades, so on and so forth. So when he has the Knicks this season compared to where Steph has Golden State this season, I'm going to put him above Steph right now for this season. That's the only reason. So Steph would be fifth on your list? Today as we stand. Yeah. All time.
Starting point is 01:07:55 I'm just talking about today. Yeah, just this season. Yeah, just this season. Now, look, we don't know what's going to happen. The playoffs come. Everything, you know, is different dance floors, man. Yeah, it could be back in the same order we thought it was. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:11 It's different dance floors, baby. Absolutely. I'm just telling you right today where the season stands at today with four games left in the season. But, yeah, I just think that we do forget about Kyrie a lot, man. And because he's not in the news or on TV, the game he had last night was sensational.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And thanks for bringing him up, Mace, because I'm not saying I wasn't going to bring him up, but we got to stop acting like Kyrie ain and Kyrie, man. He's the best show on earth when he want to be. Also, shout out R.J. Barrett because he caught a crazy stray earlier, and I hope he's doing better with the loss of his brother.
Starting point is 01:08:57 So shout out to him. I don't know him personally, but I just felt like, dang, if I was R.J. Barrett. I know he lost his brother. No disrespect. We know all of that. We know all of that. We know all of that. Blessings to the family. Prayers with the family.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Yes, sir. Yeah, definitely. You're right. No disrespect. God throw me under the bus, that. I wasn't throwing you under the bus, but I was probably about to be like, dang, what'd I do? Like, you didn't do nothing.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Nah, but on some G shit, did I have murder back? Not do nothing now. But on some G said they have murder back. Not like that, because I really don't want to have his back. But he ain't lying. That's what you think is his life. Do you know disrespect? Because I know you're going through some personal. But listen, when niggas got poison, it's New York. And it's like, fuck, is this old, big, tall ass nigga?
Starting point is 01:09:40 Yeah. Fuck. Yo, who the fuck is this? Yeah. New York. Niggas don't know. They don't know. And remember, I'm speaking for the New York people. I'm not speaking for me. I'm speaking for New York. That ain't even my team. Shout out to RJ.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yeah, I'm just saying, that wasn't personal towards him because they are rude. If they don't know you, know you like you said, Zion or somebody, they don't want to hear that shit. What the fuck is this until further notice? Yeah, until you prove different. They thought they was getting Zion.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Okay. Well, y'all, that's all the time that we have for today. Thank you guys all for watching and as always, it is what it is.

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