IT IS WHAT IT IS - DID INEXPERIENCE COST THE SPURS IN GAME 1, KNICKS SMOKE THE 76ERS & CAN LEBRON JAMES SHOCK THE THUNDER?!

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 He said, that's crazy. He said, do you want to start tighter wide? He hasn't been around for a while, so he's... No, but like, I don't really call a lot of things out. Like, that was so crazy, like, what? He said you got some preferences. No, like, this is cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:26 He said he's shirt is. See, now you're trying to act out cool. You got to put that in. All right. Pause again. All right. Five, four. Yeah, I was crazy.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Off the rails now. Okay. We're back at it. Welcome back to It Is What It is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Cam. Mace will be back. And y'all, today we got Nick joining the show again. Back to back days.
Starting point is 00:01:23 What up? Yes. It was good, man. How you doing, man? I'm back. I'm chilling, bro. You know, I was a little worried after I caught you slipping yesterday with, they had problems getting it up twice, like you said, with no pause that I would get the invite again.
Starting point is 00:01:36 It's all good, Nick. You know, I'm not feeding into that. Pause. I'm not feeding into that, man. I'm not. But good to have you back. Good to be in studio with everybody. Yeah, let's do it, man.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah. Well, there's something else you probably don't want to feed into. But we got to get to it. You know, we're going to start with this game one. So Timberwolves beat the Spurs 104 to 102. This is a very, very good game. Anthony Edwards made his return. Cam, I'm actually going to let you go first.
Starting point is 00:02:07 What do you think was the biggest reason the Spurs couldn't win? Too many threes. It's absolutely too many threes. Even though, look, you got to think about this. Spurs, let's just go fast forward to the end of the game. Spurs are down five points with about a minute left. They cut it to four. They get a steel with 30 seconds left.
Starting point is 00:02:28 End up cutting the game to two points. Minnesota comes down, misses the shot. Spurs got about 11 seconds to get it to the other side of court. And Champany, he shoots the three. Listen, man, you know, I'm one of these people that always believe three points or more than two points. But when it gets to the point where it's costing people games, not just game series. We just talked about this with Boston yesterday. It's causing people's series.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Everybody is not the Golden State Warriors. And Steph Curry put this in everybody's head that you have to be able to shoot threes. Big men are shooting threes. Now, I'm not against it when it's working, but when it ain't working, it ain't working, it ain't working. You know, a lot of people don't even know this, right? It's spectacular of a player,
Starting point is 00:03:15 Ant Man is in dynamic years because he's so athletic. He's the one last year that led the league in three-pointers. People don't even know that he's the one that led the whole league in three-pointers. You know, because we're used to somebody light-skinned or white, you know, leading the league in three-pointers, not a dark-skinned nigger from Atlanta out here leading the league in three-pointers. You know, it went back to regular schedule program this year, you know, con Cohn Cinepple, and then second place was another light-skinned black-nigger mellow.
Starting point is 00:03:45 But it's too many threes. I'm sitting here looking at Wimby. Now Wimby had a great game defensively. set the record for blocks. Nick was pointing that out to me because I knew he had a lot of blocks, but I didn't realize he set the record. Nick just told me 12 blocks.
Starting point is 00:04:00 But Wimby, you're 0 for 8 from 3. I get you can shoot the 3. We understand that you have an all-around game for a nigga that's 7-4, so on and so forth. Yo, get inside, bro. Get inside. You had 11 points. And then the next thing, people are saying,
Starting point is 00:04:17 oh, Rudy Goldbeard's out here shutting everybody there. Oh, you see what he did this? The Joker, Wimby only out 11 points. Don't be that next nigga. Because then everybody's going to start talking Rudy Goldberg crazy again. Oh, he was defensive player the year, this, that, and the third. And he was defensive player. I don't slack on giving anybody that title.
Starting point is 00:04:36 But we don't need him out here ditty bopping like he's one of them niggas now. You don't see what I did. I sent the Joker home. Then I sent Wimby home. Listen, man, we don't got time for Rudy Gaubert. Shout to it. Man, though. He came back off the bench at 18.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I didn't know how good he would be because of the injury. You know, when we've seen that leg, that looked like a couple weeks that he gonna be fucked up and he was, but he came back looking really decent. Julius Randall, shout to Julius Randall. You know, he came in there looking like a dog. This is somebody who is the number one option for the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:05:13 He gets hurt. Jalen Brunson becomes the number one option, and they ship him off to Minnesota with Devin Tenzo. So you gotta think about this. All this praise, Jaylen Brunson is getting, which we'll get to next game and well-deserved for Jaylen Brunson. Julius Randall may fill away because he's not the number one option in Minnesota, but
Starting point is 00:05:32 he's a very important piece. Even times where I sit there and say, I don't think he should be a second option. I think he should be the third option. I've been on the show a plethora of times and said that because it's not getting them over the hump. But this is one game. Congratulations to the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Spurs. have to get it together as far as the three-point because especially wimby we don't need
Starting point is 00:05:57 eight o for eight from wimby to end up with 11 points that's not going to get us to victory it's just not Darren fox four four four four four four four four four four four four four four eleven step four kance castle with 17 points he shot 50 cent from the field listen it's not going to get done it's not going to get done with these numbers that i'm looking at right now uh only eight minutes for cornet two points no We only lost by two and we played terribly, so I'm not really worried. I'm more disgusted than worried.
Starting point is 00:06:28 How much stock do you put into, like, because to me, Cam, when I was watching this game, I feel like the Timberwolves, they're battle tested. You know, back-to-back years, they've been to the conference finals, and the Spurs, they win 60 games. This is the first time they're in the playoffs. And Ant-Man just looked like,
Starting point is 00:06:46 I'm happy y'all don't got beef no more because I fuck with Amman. But, you know, I'm down with you. if you got beef with someone, he's an op right away. So I'm glad Ant Man is back on good terms with you, but him being back on the court, it also felt like, yo, they got their guy back. Like, you know, you always talk about playing sports and shit.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I'm sure your teammates felt better when you was on the court for something. That's kind of what it looked like to me with Anthony Edwards. And to your point about the threes, man, I just think that's the NBA nowadays. Like, both teams just hit 10-3s. One went 10 for 36, the other went 10 for 26. But to me, it was a team that's been seasoned. and grizzled, been through the wars in the playoffs, and the Spurs, they kind of have some deer in the headlights.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And Wembe, too, like, yeah, 0 for 8, bro. Like, come on, man. We understand you this unicorn in this one-of-one, but fucking get in the pain. You could dunk from the three-point line. Do that shit instead of shooting threes when you don't got it. So that's how I felt watching that one. Well, to me, this is what happened, right?
Starting point is 00:07:44 We come into this thing with House Money. It's just that we played so good this year that the expectations got greater and greater and greater as the season went on. Oh, the Spurs are already yet. It's going to be next year. Oh, wait a minute, they can win this year. To me, we're playing with House money.
Starting point is 00:08:02 De Aaron Fox is the oldest nigga on the team. We talk about stuff on Castle is 21. Wembe's 22. We just drafted Dylan Harper. We're really playing with House money, to be totally honest with you. Our future is very bright. But because of the season we had,
Starting point is 00:08:17 the expectations got good. greater. What you just said is 100% correct. Julius Randall, playoff experience, Anthony Edwards' playoff experience. The team in general, Nause, they all have playoff experience. But because of the season we had, we're expected to do better. So it is what it is. But I want us to do better.
Starting point is 00:08:39 But if we lose, what can you say as a young team? You know, now, you're hedging now, bro. That's what I'm not. My face immediately. No. I was just about to say that. Misery loves company.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Like, Statt is up here because her teams is out. So now she's up here like, oh, the Spurs. Right. Nah, y'all lose gay one. And I was like, yeah, because we're just going to pinpoint staff. We're not even in the conversation. We're not even in the conversation.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I see, I'm reading faces. I'm not talking about none, but people making faces. People up here making faces. I'm not hedging at all. What I'm saying is this. Our expectations. are higher. I expect us to still win this series.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I still do. But I'm just telling you, everybody, two, three months ago, like, oh, the Spurs, they're a year or two away, then they're like, oh, they could win it now. Yeah, we should win it now. I'm not saying we're not, but don't act like two months ago. Everybody wasn't like, they're a year two away.
Starting point is 00:09:36 They're a year two away. I understand that both your teams, transport portals out, stat. I understand Trista team is out. She's room for teams on the east. understand. And nobody wins up here except for Mace
Starting point is 00:09:50 because he picks every team. You know what I'm saying? Doesn't matter who win. So when somebody's getting close to a real victory for somebody they really fuck with, nobody wants that. I get that.
Starting point is 00:10:00 That's my real life outside of sports. When I win, nobody really wants that for me. Not talking about y'all. I'm just saying people in general. So it's nothing new up here for me. You can say hedging, you can say whatever you want, Nick.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Enjoy yourself because this is what you're saying. happens, y'all. People celebrate too early. This is what always happens. People celebrate too early and they think because it's one game in the series that it's over. Don't worry. Will we visit this day
Starting point is 00:10:27 next week? I'll be back next week the same time, same channel and tune in. Let's see everybody's faces and hedging and whatever words they want to use next week. But it's all good. Go ahead, Nick. But yo, I feel like your expectation is coming into the year.
Starting point is 00:10:45 that shit changes if your team ends up winning 60 games. Like sometimes you just your time is now. Like New England, right, in the NFL, they had a second year quarterback, new head coach, and then they get to the Super Bowl. Like, to me, the expectations change once you see, like, yo, we're a good team. We might make it, might make a run.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And then I always think, like, every time someone says, yo, this team is young, they're a year or two away, they'll be around for a decade. Shit, Oklahoma City Thunder, they thought the same thing in 2012. And then they got rid of Hardin, Westbrook leaves a couple years later,
Starting point is 00:11:17 Durant leaves a couple years later, and it's like, yo, that court is not going to stay together forever. So to me, I just look at it, like, if I get a chance to make it to the finals, I want to win that shit now. If my team got there already, like this young court that the Spurs got,
Starting point is 00:11:30 like, fuck next year and down the road. Like, I think we can win it now. So my expectations change as we go. Absolutely, but let's be realistic. Who's better than the Oklahoma City Thunder? Who's expecting to really beat them besides the Spurs? Yeah, that's so if we're talking about expectations,
Starting point is 00:11:45 just because they've been winning since the beginning of the year to the end of the year, we don't really talk about that. Oklahoma City Thunder having lost in the playoffs, their only team that didn't lose in the playoffs this year. But because they've been so dominant from beginning to end, other storylines become attractive. Like us, we're attractive to talk about. Yeah, they should win now.
Starting point is 00:12:05 They should kill now, which I do believe that. But come on, yo, let's be serious. Who's better than the Oklahoma City Thunder? see when they play the Lakers tonight, we're going to talk about that a little later. But without J. Dub, when they're not out, they still win. Shea misses a plethora of games, they still win. Shea might probably going to get MVP this year. But we're talking about others.
Starting point is 00:12:28 We're talking about why the Knicks are winning. We're talking about Cleveland. We're talking about the injuries with Luca. We're talking about injuries with Kay C Cunningham. We're talking about a bunch of different shit. And for some reason, I don't know why Oklahoma City Thunder are under the radar. Like they're not the number one team Throughout the
Starting point is 00:12:47 Throughout the Throughout the NBA They have home court advantage If they make it to the finals But the storyline is Hey Win now, Cam They got plenty of time
Starting point is 00:12:59 Remember O KC back in the day? The favorites is still the Oklahoma City Thunder If I'm not mistaken I mean Who should beat the Oklahoma City Thunder Not saying they're not going to win Or are going to win But what team is better than the Oklahoma City Thunder?
Starting point is 00:13:16 I'm just asking. Yeah, I don't think any team is better, but all of our expectations have been shot. I didn't expect the Celtics to be eliminated. I didn't expect the Lakers to win that series versus the Rockets. I didn't even think that the Nuggets would be out when we saw that Ant Man and DeVincenzo weren't even going to be in the game.
Starting point is 00:13:33 So at this point, putting up any sort of prediction is just really questionable because even like, I'm not going to lie, this game won. And even though it was a great game, I fully expected the Spurs to win. So at this point, I feel like it's really hard to just go off the expectations regardless of who you think the best team is because there's like these other things that come out during the game and whether it be momentum or even just the excitement in the moment or even HomeCorp
Starting point is 00:13:57 advantage, like all these other factors kind of put towards that overall win. So I don't know anymore at this point because... That's the thing that's called expect because you don't expect things. I don't expect you to walk in here with papers saying that you're a Golden State fan there. People just don't expect it. It's shocking, though. It's very shocking. I didn't expect it. So we did a lot of things we don't expect to happen.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I also didn't expect them to lose. But also, what if Flage's mom say? Like, I went in real life. Like, that's how I feel sometimes. Because you put your faith in trust and teams and people and sometimes. That's a defense mechanism. But for her moms, because her daughter lost, you don't say that right after loss.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, I won in real life. Fuck all that. Yeah, you know you hurt. Yeah, you're salty and you hurt. The same thing like with Jalen Brown on Twitch and like, bro, what are you doing? What are you on Twitch complaining for the day after you lost? You know what the nigger said that we didn't actually talk about that? He said even though everything happened, he felt like this was his best season.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Why would you say that, bro? Like, my nigger, so you got to take that into consideration that. statement, right? You sit there and say, all things considered, this was my best season. A season where Jason Tatum didn't play, a season where they were considering you MVP by yourself because you was the Adolo, a season where you actually got bumped in the first round. So you're sitting there, and you know it might be speculation with people saying, what does he mean by that? What does he mean this is the best season? I think, because I've seen I'm talking about this on my man Jay Will on first take talking about,
Starting point is 00:15:44 and I agree with Jay Will. You don't say that at that time, bro. You know, even if you feel that way, I would not say that, bro. Because now you're adding fuel to people's fire because you're always talking about who's Batman, who's Robin, is the Tatum team, is a Jaylor Brown team. Now you're talking about this is my best year. Didn't you win a championship in the finals MVP and a playoff MVP?
Starting point is 00:16:08 Well, how is that not your best year? here. So now you want to start some shit up. That's how I took that. So, yeah, I didn't like that at all from Jalen Brown. You don't do that right after game. The only reason I bought that up because you bought Flage's mom. It's like once you start losing, if you say that the day after you lose, same thing like
Starting point is 00:16:32 just Jalen Brown, I don't like it. I'm not supporting. If that's your attitude all the time, like, I'm going to fuck you're talking about. I'm going to wonder whether we win this season or not. That's my attitude. To me, that's your stomach hurt and you're salty, and that's a defense mechanism. But I didn't like what Jaylen Brown said when he said that.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I think it was terrible timing, me personally. Yeah, and then just exact what it says, it was my favorite year of my basketball career. So, Nick, I mean, when Cam brings that up, how do you feel about Jaylen Brown saying that? Because we talk a lot about timing, too. So what are your thoughts? Bro, I don't know what we were talking about.
Starting point is 00:17:05 One of the nights, one of the days we were filming, and I was like, man, there's some shit. you got to just keep to yourself, bro. It had nothing to do with basketball. It was just another thing we saw on the internet. It's like, the timing of it is just terrible. You got to read the room. Because you know that we're going to come up on here
Starting point is 00:17:19 and we're going to say like, yo, he don't fuck with Tatum. He won out of Boston. He want to be Batman and all that. And this is a dude who was the highest paid play in the league too. So like, I don't know, man. I just think that that's, you just got to read the room. You can't say that shit right after you lose. Yeah, I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:17:34 But also like, okay, say he's on Twitch and he's just talking to his like personal fans who are logged on to. his stream. Like, you don't talk to the people who really fully support you, even though you know it could potentially be a quote, because I feel like just off-rip, he's just talking to his biggest fans, really directly. Still, no? I'm just asking. I always got to have the other side, because that's what he probably been thinking. The whole thing about it is this, right? He's a very smart person. He's very smart. Like, I'm talking about school-wise, education-wise,
Starting point is 00:18:04 so on and so forth. You know what you're doing, nigga. Talking directly to your fans so they can snatch that sound bite and then take it to people that's not your fans and put it on the sports networks. So people take that sound bite and run with it. He's not dumb whatsoever. So at the end of the day, you could be talking directly to your fans, but you know people are going to snatch from that, what they want to snatch from that. I don't know how long he was twitching or whatever you want to call it for us.
Starting point is 00:18:33 But at the end of the day, it was a few different sound bites that they took from that. he's going to be on there for an hour. They're going to take the three, four things that he said off to there and use it for content for us and other analysts to analyze and talk about. So I don't think me personally, and, you know, I was talking to Nick about it about podcasting during the playoffs or right after playoffs to be a thing because it seems like me. Jay Will said, I think Jay Will shot Jay Will.
Starting point is 00:19:05 He had a lot of great takes. Give it 48 hours, bro. Give it 72 hours. Nigger lead a locker room. Yo, get the Twitch ready. Yo, my nigga! What's you talking about? My nigga, these niggas?
Starting point is 00:19:18 It's a drug, bro. And then that shit, that social media shit, is a fucking drug. And I'm happy, yeah, I'm happy that I didn't have to grow up in it. Like, I'm happy as I have it as a tool, but I'm happy I don't have to panic. Niggas be panicking. Oh my God, this picture didn't get this many lights,
Starting point is 00:19:37 take it down. Yeah, oh my God, you got my past side. Oh, my God, take it down. Oh, oh, no, my God, it didn't get this many views. Say, yo, my nigga, who gives a fuck? But people give a fuck, and I be laughing. Oh, my God, my phone's on 10%. What am I going to do?
Starting point is 00:19:53 Anybody have a charger? Yo, my nigga, to me, I get the laugh at it. But they grew up in it so they don't know no better. But to me, it's like it's a drug. Who the fuck runs the Twitch after getting? getting eliminated. Dissing the referees, dissing Joe L&B, calling them a flopper, saying this is my best season, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yo, bro, let that shit calm down for a minute. And then if you feel like that in 48, 72 hours, cool. I can't tell a nigga what to do. I'm just telling you from me looking in. You know, somebody like Stapples, he just said, maybe he wants to talk directly to his fans. But it's not going to be only just your fans. Even if it's just your fans and you need a pass code
Starting point is 00:20:36 to get in or anything like that, they're going to record it. And then you'd be like, oh, TMZ, be 10,000. Look what this man just said. It's going to get out. Period. Yeah. That's an interesting perspective because obviously I grew up
Starting point is 00:20:51 in the social media era. That's all we had. Yeah, right. And everybody still uses it as an outlet. And that's just the way that a lot of people communicate because even I'll say my generation, like communication skills aren't really the best for a lot of people at all.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Like people don't even know how to have basic regular conversations with people, which is unfortunately a lost art, because how do you not know how to talk to people? But then I think about it, it's like you never really had to talk to people. If you needed to address something, you could send an email. You don't have to go to that person directly. If you need to say something to somebody, you can send a text. You can send a DM. You don't have to physically talk to that person. And it's been like that since we were children. It's not like, oh, like I used to not have that. Then I had this. Like since we were in elementary school, middle school, we had the iPods, we had the iPhone.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Like, I don't, I don't even know if I had a phone before an iPhone. I maybe had a BlackBerry, maybe. I don't really remember because who would I be calling? So we started off with that, so we don't know anything different than that. So I can't really see a different side because that's just always what it's been and how it is. Yeah, so I'm 35, right? And I feel like my generation, and everyone always starts shit off like that, but like I grew up Like, I grew up where I remember the phone when you would call you didn't know who answered.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Like, I still had the landline phone. And then, like, I had the, had that Motorola cam. You remember that shit? With the game Snake, that shit was, like, indestructible. You couldn't, that shit couldn't break. I didn't say a mad poor shit all day. I remember you had beef. And now I remember the game Snake.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Yo, no, I don't remember it, actually. But, yeah, I don't recall. Yeah, so Motorola. So they had these, they had these. They had these shitty-ass phones, right? And they were like a brick, bro. And that shit, you could drop it from like the Empire Stable and that shit would not break.
Starting point is 00:22:40 So from that, I went to the sidekick. I used to have a sidekick, too. So like, it was like a, it was kind of a phone like that. Sidekick is crazy. Yeah. Flip up. Yeah, it will flip up. Like, I think to this day, I think it's-
Starting point is 00:22:50 I got that shit. I got a box of technology in my mom's house, like a bunch of shit over the years. I didn't mean to interrupt. Yeah, nah. I still feel like to this day, bro. I feel like that's the coolest phone ever. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:01 You don't know about that, but I get it too. I remember, like, my generation, we had both. Like, I grew up with the internet. Like, I didn't have an iPhone until I was in college, but I remember, like, all the other shit, like, yo, going to the park. I didn't have to hit up my friends to be like, yo, yeah, going to play ball? You're going to do this.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It's like, yo, four o'clock after school, you're there. If K'm not there today, he has something to do. He'll be there the day after. So, like, when I hear all that stuff, it's like, yo, bro, I just feel like it's attention-seeking right now. And I can never, I can never imagine having a contract. for $300 million and then going to do a podcast
Starting point is 00:23:37 that's going to pay me half a mill, a mill. Like keeping the main thing, the main thing, how you guys always like to say too. But to the stats point, when you grow up in it, what else do you know?
Starting point is 00:23:48 You don't know no better. You don't know nothing else. That's better. You just don't know. That's all you know. Right, yeah. You don't know anything else. So I don't be,
Starting point is 00:23:57 that's why I don't be knocking that shit because you don't know. It's like, how are you going to fault somebody for not knowing? And like, niggas be really good, man. How you don't know this? How you don't know that?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Maybe because I wasn't born, nigga. No, literally. At sin, literally. Yeah, like, what do you want something to do? And then to your point, when you're like, you're making $300 million and then you run Twitch, right? I get that as well. But think about this, right?
Starting point is 00:24:25 And I learned this during the documentaries, that Lamar Oldham documentary. You make all this money playing basketball. but you want to be a reality TV star. Why? I want that fame. I want the Chloe Kardashian fame. This basketball shit cool,
Starting point is 00:24:43 but I want to be a reality TV star. He wanted that shit. And watching that shit, you know, from the outside looking in, that's why I give, watching that shit, I give Chloe a lot of credit because she never blew the spot up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:57 She never was like, yo, this nigga's on crack. Yo, this nigga wants the camera's rolling. You know, this nigga wants to be like, yo, put the TV, put me, he wanted all that shit. She was just letting them do it because she was his husband. She wasn't forcing the nigga to be on the Kardashians or the life of Chloe and Lamar. Whatever the fuck they shit was.
Starting point is 00:25:15 He wanted that thing. So this ain't even the internet like that. He wanted to be a, you know what the Lakers, Kobe Bryant, Phil Jackson, nigger, and you want to be a reality star? Some niggas just want that of a life one, nigger. And sometime, you know, I remember growing up, you know, rappers wanted to be athletes,
Starting point is 00:25:36 athletes wanted to be rappers, and it's kind of still the same thing. You got these niggas who make all this money, and they were like, now I'm gonna go do the album. You gonna do the album? Yeah, man. Out there, I'm gonna be a new young boy. Yo, my nigger, you make $290 million, right, for four years.
Starting point is 00:25:57 But they want other fame, you know what I'm saying? And I get it. I get it. I know females that deal with rappers. Like, I don't like athletes. They're corny. I'm not corin. I'm talking about females.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Oh, those niggas is corny, Cam. I can't fuck with them niggas. And they're really dead athletes and fuck with rappers because they feel like rappers is cool. They're standing third. But half the time the rappers don't have the money the athletes got. But they rather not be around corny niggas,
Starting point is 00:26:25 neither. A lot of times athletes, and I'm not talking about anybody specific, a lot of times athletes don't know they not. cool. You sit there because you've been good at your craft since you was four, five, six years old. So most of the time when you're professional, you didn't start being good at 12 and 13.
Starting point is 00:26:41 You started being good at six, seven, eight years old, maybe before that. So you've been good at eight years old, been good and people've been treating you good and go to this school and go to that school and here's a free pair of Nikes and get the sponsorships. And you're being corny the whole time because you don't got to even get no
Starting point is 00:26:57 swag to be cool because everybody's kind of jumping on your dick paws. because they feel you're gonna make it. Oh, he's gonna make it, he's gonna make it. And this whole time you're not gaining nothing to be cool, because you never learned how to be cool. You got the internet now so you can try to learn to be cool on the internet.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You know what I'm saying? It ain't like you gotta go outside and physically be a cool nigga. You know, it used to be a saying like, you can't sit at the lunch table with us, you're not cool, nigga. Now you might Google like, yo, how can I sit at the lunch table to be cool with these niggas?
Starting point is 00:27:31 might be an app for it. You know what I'm saying? It's a different time, so you can't get mad at that. Yeah, and to me, I'll add to that too. A lot of that still goes back to those social interactions because also as far as lifestyles, typically an athlete is going to be a lot more sheltered and have a certain path that takes them to where they go,
Starting point is 00:27:49 as opposed to, like, in the music, entertainment industry, you're meeting a lot of different people along the way that kind of brought you to where you're at. And even, like, with Lamar, it sounds crazy because it's like, why would you want to be a reality but you're culturally relevant in a completely different way than just the sport alone. Because even with a lot of athletes, they're actually pushed to like push their social media content, get a present, socialized because they miss that mark and just, I don't know how the
Starting point is 00:28:15 mark is always missed, but in music, it's just completely different for y'all because y'all are shaking hands, talking to everybody, whether it be in fashion, like you guys have a larger realm as opposed to just like, dang, it's me and the field and my teammates. and I'm around the same type of dudes from elementary up on, and then you guys meet a range of people. So I get it, but it also, it's like, wins some you lose some. Yeah, but that's part of the reason why people was bugging out, talking about, yo, nobody knew who Clay Thompson was, till the y'allah.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yo, because it's music. So some people ain't watching sports, especially overseas, you know what I'm saying? So it was a lady on the podcast from UK or whatever. And she's like, we didn't know you, Clay Thompson. We knew Megan, because I reached this forever or whatever as far as music concern, but it's about what you're tuning into, you know what I'm saying? I end this with it far as, like, generation gaps.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And I thought this was cool for the younger niggins. Because I went and don't matter with me. I'm older, even though I'm older, I still do young niggins shit. I'm in the loop. I may not be twitching and all that shit for us. Why you call it switching? What you call it? Streaming.
Starting point is 00:29:26 But it's different streams, right? You can stream on YouTube? on kick, you can stream on Twitch, you can stream on YouTube, but it would be considered streaming, but Twitching this just sounds funny. I bet you, I bet you start stealing it. I bet you that. I bet you that next week. There he goes to twitching.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I bet you next year of a nigga go say Twitch because if it's streaming, you can be streaming on several different things, right? So he was on Twitch, right? He was twitching. When you're on Twitter, when it used to be called Twitter, you was tweeting, right? Yes. All right things.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Well, let's he say tweeting. We don't say exing, you know? Because it don't sound cool. Yeah. I bet. I'm gonna copyright that shit tomorrow. Why? I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:30:05 twice. Like, yo, you're gonna Twitter? You were twitching the night? Of course. You'll be like, what the hell? Sound funny now. Remember, I told you this. I didn't,
Starting point is 00:30:15 I just can't, why you're going with pink? Next year, are you right? I'm telling you, I'm a transcend. I'm telling you. What should happen? Twitching, y'all. Anyway, what I was going to say is that, um,
Starting point is 00:30:27 it was like, so, it was pretty funny. My man was his, I don't know, his godson or his little cousin, whoever it was, somebody came to visit him from down south, so I was at his crib and shit. And he was like,
Starting point is 00:30:42 my man is my age, and he's like, yo, this a nigga on line. And he got out here trying to meet a bitch on line. He's like 18 years old, the kid. He told him he got chicks up here. He met online. He can't even go outside and meet nobody. And the kid was like, yeah, I'm going to meet this girl I met online.
Starting point is 00:31:01 He's like, yeah, look at you. You're online trying to get some pussy, y'all, y'all, yada. So his nephew, cousin, whatever guy, son, whatever he was, he said, oh, my bad, I should go to the club and meet a random. Don't know nothing about her. Go to the hotel unless she fuck around and rob me. And that's how I should do it, how you should do it. Meanwhile, I got a whole paper trail on this bitch.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I've been talking to her letting her know that I'm coming to New York. I see what she really looked like. We already discussed her sucking my dick, so I don't have to go outside and figure it out. You stay the way you do it. You go to the club, and hopefully you get some pussy tonight and don't get AIDS. He went off on his uncle or whoever he was.
Starting point is 00:31:41 I was like, yo, Shirley got a point, man. He already got shorty resume. You're going to go outside and try and figure it out in the club tonight, and you may end up not getting nothing. I like his way. I'm not saying I'm getting online doing none of that. But I'm just telling you he had a great argument. I thought that was pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I thought he won the argument that day. I did. I thought he won. You won that. Okay, on to the next game. So the Knicks beat the Sixers 137-298. Sixers actually came up one point short of the worst playoff loss in franchise history. Nick, got asked you this first this time. What adjustments do you think need to be made for the Sixers?
Starting point is 00:32:21 And then how do you feel about this Nick's win? What's the thoughts? I mean, you know, the Sixers, I don't think they need to overreact, like being objective here. I think it was just the garden, the garden was rocking. The Knicks was hitting their shots early. They kind of controlled the pace of the game. They didn't really attack Brunson as much as I thought they would. Like, I was really nervous that.
Starting point is 00:32:44 We was talking about it yesterday about, like, Edgecombe and Maxie being able to do whatever they want to Brunson defensively pause. I know I've got to be careful now. But I wouldn't worry too much about that for the 76s. It happens. Like, we see a lot of blowouts in the playoffs, especially when teams are hitting their threes. Like, the Knicks went 51% from three, right? Like, the difference, they hit 19 threes to the 76ers 11.
Starting point is 00:33:12 That's 27 points right there. You know, we were talking about the game before, how the shot attempts that they missed on the threes, missing 10 extra threes, like, what do those possessors? turn into. So if you're if you're Philly, I think they just got to keep everybody healthy. And I think they'll be just fine. I think this is going to be a seven game series regardless. I think it's going to be similar to Cavs in Toronto where every team at home is going to win. So that's why I think with the Knicks having that game seven at the garden, if it gets to seven,
Starting point is 00:33:45 is going to be really important because I don't know if you guys caught that, but 76 has put out a memo saying if you're a season ticket holder, if you got tickets, don't sell it to anyone with like a 646 area code, 212, 718. They want to keep all the New Yorkers out the garden. But when it comes to the Knicks, the Knicks side of things,
Starting point is 00:34:02 look, man, Brunson did his thing. Bridges showed up. I think he's the biggest X factor. I'm like, I can't fuck with Bridges, man, sometimes because it's, you know, the five first round picks that they give up for him and then you look across the league and some of the trades I went down,
Starting point is 00:34:17 like Anthony Davis and a one guy, That you Luca. Now I'm thinking like, damn, you know, what if they didn't mortgage the farm to bring a Janus in if things don't work out? And I understand Brunson wanted to play with his boys with the Nova guys, the Nova Knicks that they were calling. I think he's really the one because I think Cad has earned his stripes with the Knicks and with the fans where you kind of know what to expect with him. And he's pretty consistent. And then Brunson is Brunson. But it's really Bridges.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Like if Bridges could give you, I'm not even asking for 17. Eight. Let me just get eight a game if I'm Bridges And defensively, he balled out And that's the guy right there, can for me If I'm watching the Knicks is Bridges Even OG is pretty consistent But Bridges like, yeah, back-to-back games
Starting point is 00:35:01 He had zero points in the series before. It's like, yo, you're way more down than you are up pause. So to me it's Bridges But for the Sixers, like they just need to stay healthy. The Knicks, man, look, if you're in East Conference the last two games, the Knicks look really scary They look like they are really a problem. When I'm looking at this box,
Starting point is 00:35:23 what's really incredible is that every player on the Knicks scored, they had nine players off the bench score, which is incredible. So that means you played actually 14 players. Of course, there's a blowout, so you make sure everybody gets some run, but that's still impressive to get 14 men on the floor, and then everybody score on top of that.
Starting point is 00:35:45 So that was really, really impressive. Jalen Brunson came out fire and he's on top, fire from the very beginning. And they won every quarter. You know, it wasn't a quarter the Philly didn't win. I think this game, too, we'll see a lot and we'll see where this series is gone. But the way the Knicks look coming into last night, it looked like they should dominate the series. Will they? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:36:11 But it did look like the 76ers are coming off a seven-game series with the Boston Celtics. That's exactly what it looked like. It looked like, yeah, listen, we're tired. And it ain't like we just motherfucking had to play the Sacramento Kings. They played the Boston Celtics. Jason Tainham played a couple games, and they won three games in a row to advance to this second round. But it looked like they had a first round hangover,
Starting point is 00:36:38 and the Knicks did exactly what they had to do. They had a couple more days rest, and they bust their ass. But I can't call where this series is going until the next. next game. But shout to the next, the last two games, they look like the scariest team in the Eastern Conference at the moment. Yeah, great assessment. And then I want to touch on a point that Nick actually brought up regarding the ticket sales, because they've done this before, but they're doing it again. And then the website itself says that the sales to this event will be restricted to residents of the Greater Philly Area only. It'll be based on credit card
Starting point is 00:37:09 billing address and orders by residents outside of the area will be canceled without notice and refunds given. How do you feel about stadiums and teams deciding to do that? Do you like like that idea or you feel like it's just not? I think it's corny, but if I'm a season ticket holder and someone's going to offer me $3,000 for my seat, I'm probably going to sell it too, make some money. Like, you know, it happened most famously, it happened with the, when the Rams went to the Super Bowl and they beat your Bengals, Cam, sorry to bring up bad memories there. But they were hosting the Super Bowl, right?
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yeah. What last time you went? We won it last time we was there. What time was that? 2011. Yeah. Where year we went? No rings, though, bro.
Starting point is 00:37:51 You ain't in Tidal Town. Where year did you go? 2011. All right. How old was you? Six? Nah, no. I was 20.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I was 20. I was in the building, too, actually. I got to go to that. But so the Rams, right? The Rams, they hosted the game in L.A. And then they were playing the 49ers. And the Rams were, like, putting out memos like that. Like, yo, don't sell it to anyone from the Bay.
Starting point is 00:38:17 area and then they still got like half the crowd was from San Francisco and that because they're trying to protect home court. I think it's corny though. Like, yeah, if you want to go and buy a ticket to the game, cool. But nowadays, like, there's a lot more fans like you, Statt than there are, like, the hardcore fans that root for a team. Like to find fans like me. So the under 30 crowd, they fuck with players more than they do with teams. And that's been the case. Like, I'm a Knicks fan, right? If If I was a Knicks fan with Linsanity and Mello and then like Pablo Pregioni and all these guys. Like I'm going to be a Knicks fan where a lot of people your age, they'll be like, yo, I fuck with the Thunder now because they got SGA. But if he leaves and he goes to Memphis, I'm going to be down with Memphis.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yeah. And I think LeBron kind of started that too where like people are Cavs fans and they're down with the heat and they down with the calves again and now with the Lakers. So that's what I mean by that where like I don't think anyone's really like a hardcore. Yeah. Yeah. Have a Kyrie going on. I'm just gonna go with Kyrie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:23 No, and I feel you too, like, especially like, if I know a player too, like one of my friends he fights in the UFC, like, I'm always rude for him because like there's like a personal relationship and I know the guy. So like if I had a friend that played in the NBA, I'd be like, yeah, bro, I'm down with the Raptors now because that's my boy, you know? And then if he leaves and goes to another team, then I'll go and like, you know, chase him and be on the bandwagon like that. but for the most part, I think there are a lot of people like that. Yeah, the portal, yeah, Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry. Okay. That's true. When one team loses, they. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:54 It's still consistent with you, P.T., if you guys can't hear PT, which you probably can't, he follows the player just like me, but we're trying to change up the meaning now because I have two teams. It don't matter. I made it clear I always like stuff, and we can argue all day about Jimmy Butler. I get it. I've made it clear. My request was in.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I'm no longer changing any more teams. As long as Steph is on the warrior. When did you make it clear that you as a stuff fan, like... I said it so many times. Like, bro, I need some... Bro, like, all the fans, I make all those edits. Like, this is not the time y'all want to bring up the old clips from the past three years to, like, help me prove my case.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I've said it before that I really like Steph. Black Mamapoo or somebody going to do it, and I'm going to find the clip because I have made it clear. That's definitely one of my favorite players. Because shout out LeBron too, but Steph has always been my goat. And I will say it through and through and through. Yes. Kim.
Starting point is 00:40:45 on them basically restricting the tickets. I don't like it neither. Like, you know, I see Joe Lumbiz say that shit. He said, Philly fans, we really need y'all help. Last year it was like Madison Square Garden East or whatever. Yo, bro, New Yorkers gonna travel. That's one thing, they're gonna travel, bro. I don't know if you've seen outside of Atlanta
Starting point is 00:41:10 after they beat Atlanta in Atlanta. Shit was flooded and there was mad New Yorkers. They was mad hype. This is Atlanta. You know how much further Atlanta is from New York? There's a lot of New York niggas in Atlanta. Don't get it fucked up. Philly, that's an hour and a half drive.
Starting point is 00:41:28 In New York, we are the number one niggas scamming. Do you think niggas ain't going to figure out how to get them tickets? No, those sides are 646. Yo, change our area code to 215. That's all they're going to do. Switch their phone numbers up or their emails up. you, Philly's finest at gmail.com
Starting point is 00:41:46 Like, yo, I'm like, if you think phone numbers and emails is going to keep people from New York not getting in there, it's not going to happen. I think that it's bad to even say it because if New York fans do get in there and they seem louder than the Philly fans like it was last year,
Starting point is 00:42:04 or I think it was last year, then you know what kind of aha moment that is? AHA. George's going to keep us out, right? Ah, we in here. Yo, throwing the Philly hats and the Philly jackets and all that shit. And then you get out and you throw that shit in the garbage and you got on Nick paraphernalia.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yo, I wouldn't even set it. Even though I get what you're saying, you're crying for help. So it seems like you have some fans. But that just motivates New Yorkers more to do what you don't want them to do. So now with them saying that, my personal opinion, is that it's going to be crazy New York niggas. in there knowing now that your
Starting point is 00:42:42 niggas are crying for help from a fan based perspective. That's where niggas team up. Yo, it's by these 10 tickets. I got them online right now. I told the nigga we from North Philly. He's going to sell him to it. Look, bro, don't say that shit out loud. It's like the internet
Starting point is 00:42:58 right, or the online. When you tell people you hate something, they just start doing it. They put it in the comment. If you sell somebody, y'all don't like that and then they're just going to start doing or more of what you don't like. So I wouldn't have said it at all, to be totally
Starting point is 00:43:14 honest with you. The art of finesse. We will see how many New York fans actually pull up to the stadium. But next, we'll talk playoff surprises, disappointments, and predictions, and we'll discuss it all after the break. She called this thing about it's toxic.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Four years and counting. Got you feeling like an option. Me, I'm a mom. problem big she's tired of hearing i don't know much happening me won't fall oh oh dealing with this thing called trust but she really thinking about she want to be free welcome back let's get into some predictions of who wins this series let's go east nick pistons versus calves what are we thinking here I said yesterday I don't trust them.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I don't trust the beard. And I don't trust Donovan Mitchell, too. They both, well, Hardin's been to a conference finals, but Mitchell's never made it out the second round. I think the pistons are going to get a lot of momentum from coming back from that 3-1 deficit to beat the magic. I think it's a good matchup for the pistons to be able to attack the calves, especially down low. I think Duren is going to bounce back. Like, not for nothing, yo, he was kind of getting dragged through social. media for being pretty underwhelming in that opening series against the magic.
Starting point is 00:45:00 And then, you know, he comes back with a 15. I think he had 15 and 15 in that game 7. And then you just know Kate is, Kate is one of those guys, Cam. And I would love to hear your good thoughts on this. He reminds me of someone that's like, he got like 90s swag to him in the sense of like, yo, I'm going to go out there and I'm really going to try to kill you. He's, there's been that video that goes viral all the time where he's on with like Chuck Shaq and Kenny, and he's talking about, I forgot who went second in the draft that year with him.
Starting point is 00:45:31 And he was like, yeah, when I see him, it's like, he knows what it is. There's no handshakes. There's no jersey swaps, none of that. He's kind of cut from that era. So I'm a big Kay Cunningham fan. And I think that he's so valuable to the Pistons. And I think he has a great matchup also because the guards for the calves are not going to be able to contain them either. So I'm going with the Pistons.
Starting point is 00:45:53 I do not trust the beard. I've seen it way too many times. The tour dates that I said yesterday, he's going to have that 3 of 18 from the field. Mitchell is going to have a game that he's going to cost him to. And it's just I'm going off the track record of what I've seen. And I think the Pistons coming back from 3-1, I think it's going to be, they're going to be a problem.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And they got home court throughout the rest of the playoffs because they were the one seed. What do you think of K, though? I think he's spectacular, man. Watching him in this series, You got to think about this, right? This is somebody who's lung collapsed a few weeks ago, and then he's smooth with an attitude.
Starting point is 00:46:37 You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about his game is real smooth, under control. He's not erratic. I'm trying to think of how to even explain it because I haven't seen it. I've seen it somewhere before, but I don't know where I've seen it at.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Dribbles really well, but doesn't overdo it. Mid-range is crazy. I see, like, he didn't move when they was playing against Cleveland. Where he had the ball of half-court. He brought it up. Somebody came, he did the right between the dribble,
Starting point is 00:47:06 got him out the way, behind the back, and then went down the lane. Somebody's on his right side, and he just dunked it with the left hair. I'm like, yo, it was smooth. It wasn't rushed. It wasn't forced. No, I don't want to, it's not SGA either.
Starting point is 00:47:21 It's his own thing. I'm talking about Kaye, because the S-D-A's kind of smooth, too, but this is a different this is 70s cool this nigga, like with the Afron all type of shit. You know what I'm saying? He's a real cool dude, even in his post-game interviews, it's cool. I like him
Starting point is 00:47:36 a lot, pause. With that being said, I'm not sure. When you look at the regular season, they split it two-two, and then even when James Harden came, it's 1-1. Both teams went on their home court.
Starting point is 00:47:52 we're talking about experience. Of course, Cleveland has more experience on their team, but I think that they gained a bunch of experience in this Orlando series. You know, being down and being on the verge of actually being eliminated when they're the number one C. You know, oh, the number one, 8C, you're going to eliminate the number one C.
Starting point is 00:48:17 With their back against the wall, they came back and won three games, and now they're propelling to the second round. around. I actually didn't like the way that the cavaliers looked against the rappers. The rappers were a little better than I thought, but they didn't even
Starting point is 00:48:32 have random Ingram playing throughout the series, and they just ended up winning. I thought Mace brought up a good point, and now that I looked back at it, and I was saying that, now, these niggas, they know basketball. People know basketball, but it still
Starting point is 00:48:48 seems like Donovan Mitchell and James are trying to figure out their chemistry in the back court. And they didn't show that series last season. If I have to make a choice right now, I'm going with the Pistons. I hope the Pistons do win. I want to see Cade and them boys move on.
Starting point is 00:49:07 But if we're going off experience, Cleveland have the experience, but how much experience do they have? These are people who have never been to the championship as long as they've been playing. James Harton's actually been to a conference final. I haven't mentioned Mitchell hasn't even been to that. Yeah, and like he's been to the finals with the Thunder, but I mean where he was like the alpha alpha, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:30 like he's coming off the bench there. Well, that's why I said the conference finals. He went conference finals with Houston. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So absolutely. Yeah, especially for the Pistons, if Tobias Harris continues to play the way that he does,
Starting point is 00:49:42 and then Jalen Dern, he was very underwhelming. So what was said made sense. If he could step it up and play like he did that last game, then I think that they're in a good position. But again, this playoffs all around has been very, like I said, unpredictable. So at this point, I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And speaking to that, I wanted to ask you guys a question about, like, the unpredictability of the playoffs. I don't feel like a seven beating a two or an eight beating a one cam anymore. Is that crazy? Like, I feel like the talent in the league has gotten so good, like top to bottom. Even some of the, like the whack teams in the league, like Memphis, right? If John Morant plays, like they're dope. They're a good team if he's playing.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Obviously, the issue is that he don't play. But is it as crazy to you if there's an upset with a lower seed anymore? Like, you know, in the 90s, if an eight seed beat a one, it was like, yo, what the fuck? Fire everybody, trade the star. But now it's kind of more common. Kind of is still a little crazy because you know why? Now a seven. I mean, nothing can happen.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Miami does it. Did it a couple times. And they actually went to a championship. But I'm talking about as far as, because you know why? The 7th for 8th seed now is considered a playing team. So it isn't like they got that spot. You may have been in 10th place and ended up being an 8th seed or a 9th place to end up being a 7th seed.
Starting point is 00:51:09 So now you have a, they don't just say 7th seed, they're saying a playing team actually beat you. So now if Orlando would have beat Detroit, even though it's the 8th seed, they'd be like, I got beat by a plane. team. That's the new slogan. So I don't disagree with what you're saying. I'm just saying how people are going to phrase it.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Y'all y'all n'n'n' got beat by a playing team. That's crazy. They fired my nigger, too, from Orlando yesterday morning. That's fucked up the coach. Yeah. Yeah, how crazy. Like, he was on the hot seat going into the playoffs. And then they up 3-1. It's like, yo, they might give him an extension maybe.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And then he get fired. Like, yo, the NBA is wicked, bro. Shout out, Jamal. That shit is crazy. Because that does suck. But I do think it is still. Niggas, hold on them. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:51:54 No, the flip is actually crazy, because it sucks, because you could be on such a high and we see it obviously, and then it just completely goes the opposite way. Because Fired, I didn't think that, but I guess they felt like, you know, they should have won that series.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And, I mean, given the circumstances, you know, they're real close. Well, you know, the A.C. Or the playing team. I actually shouldn't have won that series, but y'all was on a version of one in the series and should have won? No, you shouldn't want.
Starting point is 00:52:25 But, yo, that kind of plays into before when I was like, yo, your expectations change. Like, if you told anyone with the magic, like, yo, you go be up 3-1. You'll be up 3-1 at that point. And you got home court, you know, you got home court advantage there. You're like, now the expectations change. So that's why sometimes I'm a little hypocritical with that. I'm like, yo, bro, like, you're up 3-1 and you got that game 6 at home.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Like, you got to close it out. So then that's why I think he doesn't know. And so-and-so was missing. Like, that's when I'm like, oh. Yeah. And Wagner. Yeah, Wagner being out for them sucks, but like, yo, nowadays, if you got a calf injury, bro, sit out. Like, we see it time and time again.
Starting point is 00:53:00 And with Wagner, like, yeah, you want to play us a game seven, but you saw what happened with Halliburton. Halliburton played with a game seven, and then he tore his Achilles. Yeah, to your point, that's what that's what's called expecting, expectations. And see what happens? Jump in the gun. Niggas out here giving congratulations. And they guys all right.
Starting point is 00:53:19 people gotta wait and see what happens, man. But you're right, expectations do change. But I'm one of them niggas just the belt. It's like when you play in football at 60 minutes. You see how much crazy shit happened in the football season, last season
Starting point is 00:53:35 in the last two, three minutes? That nigga what's my fingernail, a nigga name? Caleb Williams. Yo, that nigga came on sensation in the last two minutes of the last motherfucking four or five games. Last two, last four or five games in whatever round of the playoffs it was
Starting point is 00:53:53 That's where his legend was built The mick's losing that nigga It is 60 minutes Stop expecting that y'all niggas won the game Because y'all didn't win the game yet He built the legend for itself Now I watch the nigger Now I'm leaving him alone about the nils and the dog
Starting point is 00:54:08 I gotta fuck with the nigger off that Now you can do what you want You built your legacy But we'll see what happens next season But yeah this season Even down to my home Everything was crazy I think we all just
Starting point is 00:54:18 I learned I learned with fucking Kim called me when the Giants lost that game to the Broncos and then y'all had me on the show after because I was talking mad shit in the chat and then him and sin is calling me
Starting point is 00:54:30 and I'm like yo bro this gotta wait this got to wait because they give up 33 points and then I answer I go hello and then you just started laughing I'm like yo you a dick bro I hate when my team loses and you be doing that shit too right even with Orlando series
Starting point is 00:54:43 talking about Detroit game six Orlando was up like 20 points in the third quarter. They said they didn't score for 53, like, real-life minutes. Yeah, real-life minutes. Then they set a record for the most missed shots, et cetera. Yeah. So it looked like you have in front of the halftime, so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:55:02 It looks really good. Even with Atlanta and the Knicks, right? Atlanta was up 18, 19 points. Even though the Knicks lost that game, they came back and was up by three points before the game was over. The game ain't over. The series ain't over. until game, you win four games,
Starting point is 00:55:19 and every second is off that clock. Right. Now it's dope that I should be expecting and root for your team and everything else. But that's why I say, I forget what I was talking to, I can't emotionally attach my son and then something I can't control. That's why I don't roll dice, that's why I don't play cards.
Starting point is 00:55:34 That's why when I used to play basketball, I used to get mad because I could control that. I'm not going to sit there and play cards. I play for fun, but I'm not going into my house where they're getting no serious over space and they think that they're the space champion because you got Delta better hand than I got belt the better hand.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Or somebody thinks they rolled dice better than me because the dice rolled out better out their hands. Nah, you can't control that shit. Now, basketball, you play in a sport, you can control that shit. I don't play a lot of shit. I don't play Uno too much. You see this? We won.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Yo, shut up. You know, he's got belted up. I'm that way. Yeah. I'm so that way. Yeah, there are. A lot of girls are. I'm sitting there like, why do y'all think that you're really?
Starting point is 00:56:15 I don't really are that good because the cards were dealt better to you than it was to me. So, I mean, I'll play, but that's why I don't get mostly attached with teams. Even though I have my teams I root for and everything, but I'm not going to, you're never going to see me out here going crazy, yelling, screaming,
Starting point is 00:56:31 none of that, because I'm just not, you can't control it. And then when it's out of your control, you're mad. You want to fire the GM. You want to fire the coach. Yo, these niggas shouldn't be doing this. What the fuck are y'all doing? I'll sit there y'all to TV, but I'm not carrying that a motion for after five minutes. I got to go.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Fair. Very fair. Can't get too comfortable. Now on to the West. Lakers versus the Thunder. Nick. Man, I know Jalen Williams might not play in game one, but just like long term. The Thunder just top to bottom. Paws are just way better than the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:57:03 And because of the injury, Toluca, like we said on the show yesterday, it's trash, man, because I really think that would have been a dope series and they would have stole a couple games against the Thunder just because he's played well against SGA and the Thunder. But LeBron going to need to keep doing what he's doing and hopefully they could have those games from the Luke Carnard's and the Marcus Smart's of the world and your boy's stat,
Starting point is 00:57:27 Hachimura. But, you know, Thunder and Five. My boy, I just pronounce his name correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My friends were doing that all the time. They're like, yo, your boy. And I'm like, who? And then the name a random player, I'm like, bro.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I bet on him one time. I was like my boy now. But yeah, it's just unfortunate because, you know, obviously Jalen Williams is a hell of a player. It was all-MBA last year. Made the All-Star. But Luca not playing for the Lakers is way more devastating than Jalen Williams not playing, especially in game one. So I'm going, I'm going Thunder in five.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Not really a hot take. Lakers probably take one. Maybe game three in L.A. You get the favorable whistle from the refs, you know, home crowd. But for the most part, yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be. it's going to be nasty business for the thunder what is wrong with jadegh why is he out so much what is the hamstring i don't know i don't really have dead ass like what's going on
Starting point is 00:58:24 it's a knee for him the most recent one is a knee it says a grade one hamstring strain yeah hamstring yes okay i think they need him not necessarily for the lakers i think that they need him to win a championship um lakers are full of surprises though man, pause. You know, it's one of them situations the Lakers going there and win the game one, and then we're going to go
Starting point is 00:58:50 oh shit, LeBron it's crazy. You know, of course I'm picking Oklahoma City Thunder to win this series, but I can see the Lakers still in two games, man. You know, what LeBron has been doing.
Starting point is 00:59:09 I'm just going to give them that much credit, you know what I'm saying? I just don't. I don't think LeBron is Devin Booker. Where he's saying, I'm not going to, you're not going to sweep me. Now, he might get swelled, but I think he has more pride than that. And I'm not saying Devin Booker doesn't. Just something you can't do about it.
Starting point is 00:59:29 We'll see what happens, how good this Oklahoma City Thunder team is. Shea Gilchrist is out here trolling niggas in real life. Filling. He's a fucking thing, you act like Devin Booker never exists. He ain't say nothing bad about Devin Booker, but he's like, yo, he's a guy. He doesn't see anybody. No.
Starting point is 00:59:47 It's just him, the rim, the basketball, and victory. Great coach, great, great, great organ. Look, they're deep, pause, you got Chet, you got homegrown. Not home, what's the one nigga name? Heinrich. They used to play for the Knicks, actually. Backup Center, Stork. You know, they got a great team, man.
Starting point is 01:00:10 I think Jay Dub needs to be there for the championship, but they've been winning all year dealing with injuries. so on and so forth. We'll see what happens, game one. I'm going to pick Oklahoma City to win this series, but I don't know what's going to happen in game one. The bro, I had a few days rest. They didn't live like they had to go seven games.
Starting point is 01:00:29 So we'll see how much energy they come in with. And we'll see if SGA and the team is a little rusty because they have more rest than anybody else. That's what I was going to mention. That's a good-ass point. Like, you know, they went on a sweep. They haven't played in about a week. So maybe come out.
Starting point is 01:00:44 You shoot eight of 42 from three and then, yeah, it could be. But that's what it would have to take, too. Like, it's just too much firepower. Even without Jalen Williams, like, they're still such a substantial favorite over the Lakers. And we'll see. We'll see. It could be, I think if they steal game one, or if they could get, if they could steal one of the first two, you come back to game three in L.A., you're at home, one-one series. It could be more enticing.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Like, we'll be more excited for that. that if it's 1-1. But chances are, I don't think so. Yeah, chances are a look. Because even if they play subpar, I still think that they play better than the Lakers. But who knows? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:26 My predictions, like I said, have been off. So at this point, I don't know. And of course, like, we would wish we could see Luca in the series. But these injuries, man, we got to figure. That's really what needs to be figured out. Something with that, but you can't avoid them. So it's unfortunate. But two gay ones tonight in the comments down below,
Starting point is 01:01:44 Let us know who y'all think wins. But Nick, thanks for joining us again today. Thank y'all for having me, as always. Yeah, thanks, Nick. Also, real quick, go to ESPN. I'm about to be on first take. So I'm leaving here and I'm going to first take. You're going to see me go debate with my niggas, Steve and A. Smith.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Tune there. He does this. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is.

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