IT IS WHAT IT IS - DONOVAN MITCHELL STAYING WITH THE CAVS & AARON RODGERS IS WILDIN' | S4 EP53

Episode Date: September 15, 2024

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Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga Black Benz's and white Vigas Now I'm out here and I'm looking for more chandeliers and light fixtures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash by making your picks on some of your favorite players. Underdog is available in over 30 states like california texas and of course new york you can support the show by downloading the underdog fantasy app with

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Murda Mase, the man who gave us one of the greatest breakup texts of all time and he didn't even know it when he said i know that you really care a lot for me i want to see you happy even if it's not with me and to my right an entrepreneur rapper icon your favorite rappers favorite rapper actor ceo founder and user of pink horsepower the man responsible for the only time I ever got slapped by a woman Killer Cam That's brother Gerard

right there, Gerard How y'all doing? Doing wonderful I'm good black man, how are you sir? Uh I'm good black man how are you sir alright I'm just letting you know Mace no disrespect to you

Nick I'm the blood of Eldris Cleaver right now in case you think this show is getting gentrified because Nick is up here

I have to let the people know where I stand. So you can call me the blood of Eldris Cleaver today. I won't accept anything else. Nick, we never had anybody up here this light on the panel with us. Okay. I like it.

I feel honored. First time for everything. What's the name of the group Ice Cube started when he left NWA? I know about No Vaseline. This is how you start. This is exactly what I'm talking about. You come up here and you start the show with this because of his complexion and our complexion and our sense. It's one thing in the control booth, it's another thing up here and you start the show with this because of his complexion and our complexion and our sense.

It's one thing in the control booth. It's another thing up here. Now he's going to tell us no Vaseline. Maslow. Brother Jabal. I need the time and the date Jackie Robinson made his first appearance in the MLB and what time the game started. You can't cut it out. That's going to be rough.

That's going to be rough to figure that one out. Let's start then. All right, let's get into the show. Donovan Mitchell staying in Cleveland agrees to a three-year extension for $150 million and a player option for 2027-2028. It delivers a guarantee for four years, $185 million total right now. And he has a chance to hit the league's 10-year service criteria, which is going to allow him to have a five-year extension

of north of $380 million when his contract is up in 2027. Murda, thoughts on Mitchell staying in Cleveland? Well, you know, Ohio is not my thing, you know? You know, that's Cam's thing, you know? But Cam is not here today, so we're going to have to ask the blood of Ildris Cleaver.

Would you like me to start? Yes, sir. I think it's good, man. Listen, it's probably the second best contract that Cavaliers have ever offered out after LeBron James. I didn't think Donovan Mitchell was going to stay in Cleveland. My personal opinion is that Donovan

Mitchell wanted to go to New York where his contract was up, but the emergence of Jalen Brunson put all that to a stop. And, you know, he wanted to get out of Utah so bad. It's like, where would he go right now? If we sat there and thought about it, where would Donovan Mitchell go right now? Now, I mean, there could be some teams that Mike could use.

And when I say Mike, I'm talking about thinking about the Lakers, the Clippers, but they can't afford them. And that's just not going to happen. Look, we was talking about LeBron James giving up $25 million to give Klay Thompson $13 million. So I think this is great for Donovan Mitchell. I think it's great for the city of Cleveland. Is it going to equal out to winning or a championship?

No, I doubt it, but he'll get his money. But I don't see anywhere else he could have went to get anything close to this money. And I think right now, money's the priority to him more than championships because he's still young and he still has some time to get a championship later on. But right now, he wants to get his pockets right. So I wish him the best of luck.

I'm surprised Cleveland actually paid this much money. But after Jalen Brunson, the year that he had, it's a foregone conclusion. They don't need Donovan Mitchell anymore. And I think that's what the Knicks were waiting on also. But Jalen Brunson put that shit to a stop. Yeah, I think when it comes to Jalen Brunson put that shit to a stop. Yeah, I think when it comes to Jalen Brunson, one of the places that he would have did well was Orlando. I'm not sure if they could have got him close to that number.

Jalen Brunson or Donovan Mitchell? Oh, I meant to say Donovan Mitchell. That would have been a great place for Donovan Mitchell. Thanks, brother Jabbar. No problem. Yeah, they would have. Nick wasn't going to do it. Nick's trying to take the show from us.

Yeah, they already trying to implement white boys on a show. This is what they do. Who's they? It's you two. Yeah, well, back to it i think donovan mitchell would have did very well at a land or it would have gave him his best chance to win and get close to that money amount i would have even thought that he could have made the same amount of money in detroit i know he wouldn't have wanted to go there but if you talk about a lifestyle outside of basketball, the Detroit probably would have been a more poppin city for him, you know, and he could have turned out with all

the new turned up with all the new talent that's out there and rap and got his name a little bit better in branding and things like that. So that's what I would have been thinking. But, you know, to state cleveland is a good thing is a blue collar state a lot of people um out there really appreciate them being out there made the max money and who knows they get another piece they probably can contend but the east is looking super strong right now um i don't see them being new york i don't i definitely don't see them being New York. I don't, I definitely don't see them being Boston. Can they be Milwaukee? Not at all.

Um, you know, that's the best place. I mean, uh, no disrespect. I don't know what you mean with lifestyle in Detroit. That's not the lifestyle.

That's the no fly zones. You talk about a lifestyle in Detroit. Nah, stay in Cleveland, bro. No disrespect to Detroit. Just a lot of rules. You got to check in. You got to ho lifestyle in Detroit. Nah, stay in Cleveland, bro. No disrespect to Detroit. Just a lot of rules. You got to check in.

You got to holler at people. It's not like that no more, though. Oh, I don't know. I'm just saying. Trick Trick said it's not like that no more. Oh, I don't know. I'm not even going to disrespect Trick Trick. I'm just saying.

The whole state was in a no-fly zone as far as I knew. It's cold there. It's freezing. When you say he'll like it better as a lifestyle i was thinking that you were probably referring to the women yeah probably for him and be a single guy yeah yeah well ohio got some bad but ohio guy you know ohio is great too yeah don't mean to cut you i'll just think about thinking about the lifestyle. Yeah, I really haven't. That's one of the states I really haven't been into.

Not into, but never went through a lot. So I don't really have any knowledge about Ohio. That's not one of the 25 states you claim? Nick's trying to get fired on his birthday. it up nick go for it yeah i do have a question about mitchell and and like i feel like you've seen this a lot guys get paid and then they kind of force their way out shortly after and the fact that it's been rumored for him to leave i feel like that's a little sketchy for me because now he got the bag. It wouldn't surprise me if like six months from now he's asking for a trade.

Mace, do you think that's something that could happen with a Mitchell? Definitely it could happen because once you got the money, you could always get paid and get traded. That's one of the things Golden State was good at. A few teams was really good at that,. We're going to re-up the contract, and then we're going to find out what teams really want you and see what we can get for you. I think that's actually a good idea if you want to win, but if you're just rocking out with the city and got love for the city,

which it seemed like is a phenomenal city, it would be a great thing for them just to get out there. I think if they get another piece, they could be a contender. I think Garland is a little young, but I think him playing this year and some of those defeats, it put a pause or nasty taste in your mouth. He might

come back this year and want to win. But they definitely are a piece of two away. No, I don't think that's happening this year. My personal opinion is that he didn't like Bickerstaff. They fired Bickerstaff. They say, okay, nigga, we fired the nigga you ain't like. Donovan Mitchell didn't play the last two playoff games

and was jumping on the court high-fiving everybody while the game was going on. I didn't see a significant injury to where he couldn't play. Now, I can't sit here and tell you that, pardon me, for a fact that he wasn't injured, but he wasn't injured enough not to run on the court and give niggas high-fives when they scored a point or something like that in the midst of the last two games.

I think that was personally a stance between him and the organization. This is how far I'm willing to take it. If you don't get rid of him, I'll make us lose, basically. Because that's what he did. And I'm not going to say the NBA insider who told me that, but at the end of the day, Donovan Mitchell and Bickerstaff didn't get along. They got rid of Bickerstaff. Yo, my nigga They got rid of Bickerstaff. Yo, my nigga, we got rid of him and we giving you the bag. Where you going now?

Could this possibly happen in two years? I can see that in two years. In the next year or two? No, I don't think that's going to happen. They did what they asked them to do. Got rid of the coach and paid him. Stay put for a minute. My opinion.

So, Kemba Walker announces his retirement from basketball. Mace, what's your thought on the career he had? He came out from Rice. Shout out to the Five Burrows. He won a national championship

with UConn. Shout out to Maurice. Four-time All-Star, made All-NBA 13 back in 2019, retiring at the age of 34. Kind of a two-part question here. How will you remember his career?

And do you think at 34, that's too young and he could still hoop? One second, Mace. Shout out to Harlem, because that's where Rice is at. Yeah, this nigga is from, that's what I was about to say. He's from the Bronx,

but the school was at Harlem. No disrespect to the five boroughs, but shout out to Harlem. That's where he bought at. Sorry, Mace. Yeah, I think when it come to Kimba Kimba have some some very um phenomenal moments that pause I remember one of the things that I remember is is him in the garden when and when he was playing with UConn that um that crossover step back jump shot was crazy. And when he got to the league, I just thought he was going to have a better career.

I'm not going to lie. The way he started out in Charlotte was great. And once he went to Boston, it just seemed like things just kept getting worse and worse. And I think he went to, what, New york at some point and it just seemed like something happened that we don't know about because kimball walker is too gifted to only have been a four-time all-star like when he started i think the first four years the first four all-stars was with cleat i'm not meant'm not meant with Charlotte. So he should have been an eight-time All-Star or maybe even a 10 if he was in the right setting. But I think once he got to that place where they started understanding that they can get more for Kimba and then they start entertaining those other ideas, it was just a foregone conclusion that they was going to try something different.

I think it was Terry Rozier that they traded for, and everything just started going downhill. But even when he got with the Lakers, I thought that he would be the piece that could help that team. But it's hard to play when you're like a small guard. When you're a small guard, you got to be on the right team. And they seem like Charlotte and the last couple of expansion teams seem like the best teams for short guards, whether that was Toronto,

whether it was Orlando, whether it was Charlotte. Those teams seem like the best teams for smaller guards and never really go well any other place. Yeah, big shout out to Kimba Walker. All them niggas up there, Zach, Warren, Sam, you. Big shout out to y'all. Y'all had a diamond in the rough up there. Like I said earlier, shout out to Rice High School.

Shout out to Connecticut. He did his thing everywhere he went. All-time leading scorer with the Charlotte Hornets, franchise leading scorer. Just a few years ago, maybe it was 2019, 2020, I think 2019, he was third team All-NBA. Something happened, and like Mace said a little while ago, and I think Kemba's just that much of a gentleman

to where he's not going to say what happened. When he got to the Knicks, he was getting benched. He wasn't getting any run and he was still really good. And it didn't really pan out for him in Dallas as well. But I think something happened in New York and I can't say because I don't know, but he's still definitely young enough to still play because he's really good. Like I'm not saying that the franchise of the Charlotte Hornets is the Lakers or Golden State or the Celtics, but he's still a franchise leading scorer no matter what team it is. So it'll come out one day.

I'm pretty sure he'll talk about what happened. I think he's just too much of a nice guy and a gentleman to put somebody on blast and tell us what really happened between him, whether it be Charlotte, whether it be Boston, whether it be New York, whether it be the Mavericks. But hopefully it'll come out one day, so we all know. But, Kimba, you did your motherfucking thing, B.

I was a big-ass fan. I'm happy. Made New York proud. And a salute to you. Like May said, I don't know about the teams or anything, but just you're really six feet. Like, you're not fucking, you're not as big as me. Like, yo, he's six feet, really like 6'2", 6'3". He's the real six feet.

So for him to do what he's doing, I really believe he's 5'11 with no shoes on. For him to do what he did, just much respect to you, bro, and wish you the best moving forward. Yeah, he's super nonchalant. I feel like he'd be a good guest on here because the way you guys interview people, you get them to open up and sort of like tell it how it is.

Yeah, maybe so. We'll see what happens. All right. NBA free agents. The obvious one that's still available is LeBron James, but we all kind of think we know where he's going to end up. But the best available free agent right now, consensus, is DeMar DeRozan.

Cam, where do you think is the best landing spot for him? The best landing spot for DeMar DeRozan right now? Hmm. That's a great question. Um, cause you know why? DeMar DeRozan still super good, still could get you a bucket. Outstanding athlete. It's two things. It's does he want a ring or does he say, fuck it at this point. I just want to get as much as I can get before I leave.

So we're asking about if he wants to get a ring. Oh, man. Man, man, man, man, man. Milwaukee. The Bucks. We go to Milwaukee. You go to Milwaukee right now.

They put you right there even with Boston. Right now, you'll be a tie with Boston. You go to Milwaukee right now if you want a championship in the next year or two. It'll get you right there. If he wants his money, go to Detroit. Like, you know,

it's depending on what you really want. And I believe he's 34 years old, if I'm not mistaken. 33 or 34 years old. This is winding down on a lot of people's career. Look, we're talking about Kimball Walker last segment.

He's 34 and just retired from basketball. DeMar DeRosa has a lot of years left. And I'm not going to say a lot. He has a good few years left because he was outstanding last year with Chicago. You want to win now and don't care about the money, figure it out with the bucks. If you want your money,

you go to a bunch of teams that'll take you because you're a walking bucket. But me personally, if I'm DeMar DeRozan, I'm a little, I still have a chip on my shoulder because the year that I left Toronto was the year that they won the championship. And that goes to show kind of the difference between him and Kawhi Leonard.

And that's what people would say. He may feel, nah, it just didn't work out like that it was the wrong time the wrong place nah when you left you been there for mad years y'all didn't win

I know LeBron was there all them years and he was in the way but you still didn't get the job done so I would be trying to get me a championship

because that still may haunt him whether he cares or not I don't have any idea but me personally Cameron if I'm DeMar DeRozan, I need me a chip because niggas want a chip the very, very next year after you left.

Figure it out with Milwaukee, bro. Yeah, and DeMar DeRozan, I mean, he definitely needs a championship. He cannot finish his career without a championship, especially for that reason. When you're there, they lose. As soon as you leave, they get a championship.

All the light is on you. Now, I mean, there's some moves you could buzz pause. You can, you can go to LA and play with the rest of the, your homies from LA. Since they not like us and all of that, you can do that.

You can crip walk across the stage, you know, Big Deebo and all that. Or you can go to Milwaukee and win a ring. You know what I'm saying? And I think that would be definitely phenomenal if you can get to Milwaukee. If you can work it out, because it's definitely a spot for you there. If they could put, what's his name? What's the guy named that played the three? Chris Middleton.

Yeah, Chris Middleton. They could put him at the two and then put DeMar at the three and just play small ball. But it would be dynamic how they can play because they got everybody on the floor can slash and Middleton can hit those threes. They will be, like Killer said, right there with Boston, and they will match up great with Boston when you look at this type of team. They wouldn't even have to trade Lopez.

They'll be player for player, can match up. And that's what we want to see anyway. So think that over. You know what I'm saying? You are supposed to have a championship. Kawhi Leonard has proved that. You're supposed to have a championship. So if you're watching this, don't even consider no other team.

Consider Milwaukee. That's where your title is. That's where you cut the nets down. That's where you become a legend in this sport of basketball. And it'll give you more years to win by playing with them. Sometime when you're getting a better system, you become a better player. It happened to people like, I don't even want to go back in the days, but many players have extended their careers by getting on better teams.

And if you're not going to play with that team, go back to San Antonio and play with Wimby and Chris Paul. That would even be another option. Surprised you guys didn't mention the Lakers. I know you talked about the Clippers and him being from L.A., but I feel like he'd be perfect for the Lakers and he you know he's not going to get a crazy deal now and if he is chasing the ring like you guys are saying what do you think about him with the Lakers what position would he play with the Lakers probably put him at the two okay Ron at three you have AD at the four

D-low running point. Bronny is running a point. Right away, you think? I mean, I don't want to get into that conversation. But you see LeBron waited until his son got his deal. Once he get his deal, then they'll do his deal. We not doing my deal until you get his deal. I think, I think, not to control. I think that everybody believes the Lakers can just go to the championship

because they're the Lakers. They're always one piece away or one person away. Look, Anthony Davis and LeBron James, and I know we have a 40-year-old LeBron James before the season is up, got it done once in the bubble. We always joke around and play games or say whatever, but on a serious note, we have yet to see AD take this team

like LeBron wants him to take this team. It's been years. He's been trying to give you the team and you just walk away from him. You turn your back on it. You don't want it. I don't think DeMar DeRozan fixes

the Lakers problem. The AD problem. Right. I don't think that happens. Now, if you want to bring another team in the West, I was thinking about in the East, another team that I think it would go really well better than the Lakers is Denver. Caldwell Pope just left. He could slide right

in that spot and the Denver Nuggets could be right where they were at last year. Not talking about as far as them losing in the playoffs, putting them right back in the regular season to win the rest in conference and then we'll see what happens. But it's just something with this Laker team presently constructed

that just doesn't seem like it's going to get them over the hump no matter what. AD, and we've seen, you know, so on a quote unquote Twin Towers or whatever you want to call it. Take the Joker to seven games. We have not seen AD have success against the Joker in years or if ever. I can't even remember when the last time he had success against the Joker. Until he has success against the Joker, it's not going to happen for the Lakers. That's important.

One of the things I was thinking about when you was talking about AD, AD is naturally a four. He's not naturally a five. The Lakers is actually a lot of times playing them out of position. And to his credit, like, and I never want to give him credit because I think he should be more dominant. But sometimes, and I'm just saying this, not just for the sake of conversation.

What if the dynamic is you say you want me to have this team, but when it comes down to it, you're not running the plays through me like it's my team. If it's your team, we're dumping the ball down to you first. If it's your team, you're the first option. And I don't think he feels, and I'm just saying this just for commentary purposes, I don't think he feels like this has ever been like everything going through me to say is my team. But you will say that when things go wrong. I'm not taking over the team,

but if it's my team, the players ran for me first. And then if I don't get a shot, you get a shot. Do you think that there's any validity to that, Killer? I see LeBron as very an unselfish player. I haven't really analyzed it to the point that you just said, which could be true. I don't know. Like first option.

Like when we're in high school, I'm bringing up the ball, we're going to kill it. If you don't get this shot, I'm going up the ball, we going to kill it. You don't get this shot. No, I know what exactly. I'm going to get this shot. I know exactly what you mean. I'm just saying that I haven't watched, but Nick, what you could do is real quick while we're having this conversation, just pull up how many shots he gets per game, average shots per game,

and how many shots LeBron gets per game while we're talking about this. It's one thing, and you're absolutely right, Mace, but if you want to be that nigga and you're telling me that, and you're telling me you got to ask for the ball too, you got to be like, yo, yo, yo, you want me to be that nigga? Like, I got, look who I got on me. Exactly. Secondly, you made another great point.

Maybe he is naturally a four because he actually started off a point guard in high school he just had a growth growth yeah he was six two six three right and grew to six ten right but that's up to him as well you know a closed mouth doesn't get fed i was actually talking to somebody on the dallas staff and they were telling me how luca because he's six seven dallas wanted, when they drafted him, to play forward. And he put his foot there. He said, I've been playing point guard my whole life. I'm not playing point guard. And they're like, no, but we're going to work.

He said, I guess y'all don't hear me. I need to go back home until y'all figure. Nah, nah, nah, nah, Luka. You the point. You the point. But Dallas tried to force him to actually be a forward. And he just put his foot down from the very start. He had no cachet with the team, no nothing.

He just got there. We didn't know if he was going to be a star or not, but he told them, I will never play forward. I've been playing point guard since I was 13, and that's the way it's going to be, and he turned out to be a great point guard. But, you know, not arguing with your point mates, but if that's no that's right

no no what i'm saying is if the scenario you're talking about is right you got to say something bro y'all want me to do all this you want me to do all that you're not running the offense through yeah exactly y'all just blaming me but when you come down you saying i get the same amount of shot as lebron but i don't get the first shot. I need the first shot, you know, because dribbling the ball out 22 seconds and throwing me the ball to shoot with two seconds, I may have the same amount of shots as you, but the way you're playing causes me to take bad shots. You know what I'm and you're 100 right killer because from nba insider they will tell you this that um when a person first gets to a team whatever his first impression

is that's what he's gonna be for the rest of his state is like it's like jail almost whatever you come in here and we identify you as unless you change that the first day. That's what your whole 10 year stay is going to be here. And so there's people that try to be shy and then they try to turn up. But the coaches already assess that this is who you are and this is where we're placing you. So you're you're 100 percent right, Kelly. He went in there from the first day and said, I'm a point guard. So for the rest of his stay, I don't care who you bring. Kyrie, grandma, mom, nigga, it don't matter who you bring.

I'm the one. He's the two. And that's the way it looks. Even when Kyrie came, it's like, yo, I'm still bringing the ball up. I know they say you got handles and all that, but I'm the one. And this is going to be really, really good to see when they add Klay Thompson to that, because they seem to have a good understanding about that. Man, AD, if you're watching this, it might be too late to put your foot down. But when you've taken this long to put your foot down, you're going to have to bug out.

Straight up, bug out. Yo, enough is enough. This year, come in with a new haircut. Do something different and let them know you're a different nigga this year. You'll get everybody's attention. Listen here, J.J. Redick. You want to stay here? I'm the first option.

Might not go over well, but it's a good start. to your point, what you mentioned, their shots are about the same. To be exact, 17.9 shots per game for LeBron. AD's at 16.9.

So 18, 17 shots is pretty much split to your point. Will you ask? But it's not split to who's getting the first shot. I don't think, I don't even think LeBron's a first shot type nigga. It might be Austin Reeves or somebody. LeBron's a very, very unselfish player. You know, people accuse him of not having the animal instinct of being a sniper like Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan

and anybody else and still leads the whole NBA history in scoring. But I think he's a very unselfish player. He's actually a play, pardon me, not a play, a real going around. I see him on Instagram where D-Lo passes him the ball. He passes it back. D-Lo passes it back to him. He make the face like, nigga, I said go to work, nigga.

You see that? And he like, nigga, go, nigga. And D-Lo makes the shot. But LeBron, to me, he knows he can't win by himself. He's been in Cleveland. Know he can't win by himself. He's been in Cleveland. No, he can't win by himself. Had success in Miami. Had got a championship for Cleveland.

He actually got one in LA, even though it was in a bubble. There's no way he could do it by himself, and he knows that. And I think what LeBron does is see the mistakes and no disrespect that Kobe Bryant made. And when I say that, I don't mean any disrespect. I mean it to where trying to get niggas to come play with him and fuck with him. Towards the end of Kobe career, I used to be like, the Lakers ain't going to get nobody.

Kobe's just too intense. Who wants to deal with that? You know, God damn. And I wanted them niggas like Kobe, but you got to at least finesse a nigga to get the nigga to the team nigga kobe just was like nah i can't speak to you don't work hard enough nigga i'm here six hours before you 22 hours after you i can't fuck with you my nigga and he was cold stone about the shit and to me lebron kind of seen that and i don't know this for a fact and seen

i can't have that personality. That personality is not going to get us free agents. That personality is not going to get nobody to want to play with me. That personality is not going to have the Lakers better as an organization. As you can see towards the end of Kobe's career, they couldn't get anybody to play.

But to Mace's point, he ought to demand that. He ought to demand that. All right right last topic before we go to break staying with the theme of rings i want to hear some way too early nba title predictions from you too the top 10 favorites and the reason why it's the top 10 because since 2000 only three teams that weren't top 10 favorites ended up winning a title it was the 19 raptors the mavericks in 2011 and the pistons in 04 so mace the top 10 celtics 76ers thunder knicks nuggets timberwolves mavs bucks the lakers and the phoenix suns that's the order of yes the nba has from favorite to the 10th favorite right so mace who

you got and this is going to be on record and now that i'm on the show i remember that it's the one that i'm on the show when you pull the tapes up give me the list again this is the shit the white man does to us now he's going to pull the list up when we've been asking him to pull records for months now that he's on the show out of pocket he want records now that he's on the show he want records alright the top 10

Celtics 76ers Thunder Knicks Nuggets Timberwolves Mavericks Bucks Lakers Suns what is your question Thunder, Knicks, Nuggets, Timberwolves, Mavericks, Bucks, Lakers, Suns. What is your question, Nick? Pick a title winner from now. How many do I get to pick?

You got to pick one. You got to give me one team that's going to Titletown, not 25. Out of that top 10. If you have someone else in mind, sure. But I'm just saying that it's probably going to be one of these top 10 teams here that you see on this list. I need two teams, at least an East and a West. All right, let's do that. Give me an East and a West.

And you can't pick the Celtics because they already won, right? You think they could go back-to-back? Sure. Nah. I don't do well at this. You know, pause it. I'm going to go Milwaukee. And who else? Some of the lower teams.

And Minnesota. Minnesota. Milwaukee and Minnesota. who else some of the lower in minnesota minnesota milwaukee and minnesota i'm going right now until like we said we still have some free agents out there that haven't signed personally right now uh i'm going with the boston celtics i think that uh they made everybody happy everybody got their money. Tatum re-signed. Jalen Brown got his money. Porzingis is going to be out till January, which I think is kind of the perfect recipe not to overextend him.

He's a half-a-season-ass nigga anyway, and by the time the playoffs come, they're going to be ready. It looked like they got a taste of the championship, and they're not one of them teams to be like, okay, we did it. It looks like they want to do it again, especially the way that Jalen Brown was asserting himself throughout the playoffs. And he's a guy who, you got to realize this, he didn't make all NBA anything this year. Ended up getting the Eastern Conference MVP, not only the Eastern Conference MVP, the Finals MVP. And I think this was his time to say,

okay, y'all counted me out. Now y'all recognize me. Now I'm going to make y'all niggas catch the vapors. And I think that's where he's at mentally. I seen Jason Tatum the other day. They was asking him a question. They said, how do you feel about yourself right now as an NBA player? He says, I feel I'm the best in the world.

Derek White, they give him a hundred something million. Outstanding. Drew Holiday, he got Milwaukee catching the vapors. Al Hoffer had been playing two million years. He finally got him a championship, still playing at a high level for his age. He's actually older than the fucking coach i think boston runs it back and like i said i have to see where everybody goes but if you're asking me today nick going with boston you know it's crazy with this tatum contract i know i texted to you guys 62.8 million but i know you've been talking

cam about the taxes and how you wouldn't want to live in certain places. 23.2 million of it, federal tax. 8.1 million in escrow and agent. 1.4 in FICA and Medicare. 4.7 jock tax. Net income, 25.2 million. Yeah. So you get less than 50% of what you're actually getting.

So you get less than 50% of what you're actually getting. I didn't know that Massachusetts taxes were that bad, but this is the shit I've been discussing for the last few days. Yep. When niggas sit here and tell you that they getting X amount of dollars, you're not getting that much. Yeah, that's why you can't be counting niggas' pockets. Yeah, yep. And trust me, that hurts.

That hurts. To me, And trust me, that hurts. That hurts. To me, I'm listening to that hurts. You better start a Tatum Foundation or something. You got to start a foundation. You got to give something back to the hood. That's too much money to just give Uncle Sam without giving back to the hood. I don't care how much you give back. You can't write off that much taxes

niggas will sit there write off 30 million in taxes you'll be under investigation no I mean he could give something he could give 2 million you know how much 2 million would mean to his neighborhood

no no no you're right you're absolutely right it could be at least 12 million you could have a staff you could have different shit and i'm not trying to cheat the irs anything i'm just trying to tell you that you can hire people to work for you so that it doesn't all go back but trying to write off 30 million no that's what niggas are talking about. Nah, we bought 20, niggas said, nah, we got $20,000 in spoons. Niggas needed some spoons at the cafeteria at the

high school. Why you bought $30,000 in spoons? See, niggas be doing dumb shit. That's why they be going to jail. $17,000 in straws. I thought straws was free. Nah, I'm just telling you. You're 100% right, but you would be amazed how much money people get

without giving anything back. That would be crazy. That's another thing. When you say give anything back to who? Just people who make a lot of money, period. I remember one time i was riding i was riding through the neighborhood and my son always says something profound to me i was like man he was like i was like why does this city look like this he said because all y'all

get rich and don't and don't come back and put stuff in. And he was talking about this in Atlanta, right? Because it was like some other guys that was with me that were from Atlanta. And we was just riding through the neighborhood. And he was just saying how many people got rich in this city, but it still looked the way it looks. And he was just making that point that when people get rich they go other places and they spend most of the money all the other places and i was like wow that's serious i gotta think of something to do and the thing about it is it's a little different now and it may be worse or

maybe not worse but you know our kids they're suburbia No, I can't tell you your kids. My kid and his bio says, I'm not my father and I'm not from Harlem. Let's be clear. Yeah, it's the same thing. Yeah, and I like that. I like that. But you got to realize, we didn't know a lot of gentrification was going to happen. A lot of change was going to happen.

So niggas was trying to get the fuck out. Yeah. You know, and, and none of this is guaranteed. We didn't have the instruments of, uh, internet or social media.

We basically had to do things the old fashioned way and not, I ain't talking about muddy waters or nothing, but you know, you started to deal in the nineties. It was a seven album deal. You almost was locked in forever and things started to deal in the 90s it was a seven album deal you almost was locked in forever and things started

to change and technology started to change and you got different things but it was rough and people were trying to get out of where they were living

me I'm petrified of mice to this day because I would put my shoe on and there'd be a mouse in my shoe I can't if a mouse was in

the studio right now I'm running up and I'm leaving until further notice I can't deal with it you know I I can't, if a mouse was in the studio right now, I'm running up and I'm leaving until further notice. I can't deal with it. You know, I just can't. It's rats in my house, nigga. You know what that's like?

You know what it's like going to the kitchen in the middle of the night and open the fridge and it's a mouse on top of it and it just jumped down. Like, it's, yeah, sorry, nephew. We traumatized. Niggas was trying to get out. Yeah. That's it.

Yeah, he said, why you throw those Rice Krispies away? I said, with something brown in it, man. Remind your roaches, man. Yeah, man. Throwing the whole box away. Shit, you ain't kidding about the rats, too. The New York City rats. That's a different beast.

They're like cats in New York. Yeah, it's crazy over there. Well, we're going to go to break, and when we come back, we're going to talk about Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets. Gucci, we ain't looking for a discount. No. My man Sin City say, it's only money. It's only money. Ain't no Silky Gucci, baby. It's only money. It's only money.

It's only money. Why you acting funny? Why you acting funny? Yeah, it's only money. Yeah, it's only money. Welcome back. Let's get into our underdog picks of the day. We're going back to the WNBA tonight

as the Dallas Wings take on the Phoenix Mercury. Underdog has Brittany Griner at 19 and a half points. Mace, do you have it higher or lower? Brittany Griner, higher. Kim? Lower. Natasha Howard is at seven rebounds. Kim, do you have it higher or lower?

Lower. Lower. Lower. And Natasha Cloud is at seven rebounds. Cam, do you have it higher or lower? Lower. Lower. And Natasha Cloud is at seven assists. Mace, do you have her higher or lower? Lower. I'm going to go higher. Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. In the NFL, some headlines.

Aaron Rodgers missed the team's mandatory minicamp because of a prior planned trip to Egypt. Rodgers attended every day of the team's phase one voluntary workouts. He missed one week of phase two, but attended every organized team activity workout. These are all voluntary, but Cam, I know you've been on this. Rodgers being a distraction with all these headlines going on. Do you think it's becoming too much of a distraction for the Jets and for Aaron Rodgers? Let me give you a follow real quick, man. Hey, right, Nick's my nigga for real, you know. I didn't like him coming in here with the collar shirt and no socks on. He used to be wearing Jordans and shit. He came here all professional.

I didn't know if he was trying to steal our shit. This is my nigga right here. So I don't want people to think I don't fuck with him. I fuck with the nigga. But his image threw me off. He usually be having on jeans, Jordans, swagged out like a nigga. He came in like he's about to try and steal shit from us.

So now that I see he's not, I'm just letting y'all know this is my motherfucking nigga right here what the fuck real quick when you call me that as a white dude yeah it means something man it feels cool

it's a good compliment now let me ask you a question before we go to the end of the project you're white yeah Greek why is their last name Diaz? It's Diaz, but I get Diaz all the time. Okay, it's Diaz. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right, that's some Greek shit. Yeah, it is. All right, it's up to my Greek name. Word. Yeah, Nick, you white, Nick? I didn't know that. Yeah. I thought you was Latino, Nick.

Nah, because of the last name. Because of the last name, I get that all the time. You been trying to put moose in your hair like you Latino and all that, Nick? I look fly, Nick. Nah, I get it because of the last name. Because of the last name, I get that all the time. You been trying to put moose in your hair like you Latino and all that, Nick. I look fly, man. There's a big audience

right now, so I'm trying to see what's up. every black girl to come in here, he be raising his eyebrows that big. He like black joints, B. That's why I had to keep

an eye on him with this collar on. That nigga Nick loves him some black joints, B. Winking at the bitches and all that when they be coming up here, B. Winking at the bitches and all that when they be coming up here, man. They be telling me when niggas be like,

yo, your man Nick was winking at me and shit. Gotta do what we gotta do, man. I ain't mad at you. That's why I say you my motherfucking nigga. You my motherfucking Caucasian. Look, why? So what did Aaron Rodgers have to do in Egypt? He had a prior engagement oh what see this is like a vacation it's basically he had planned the vacation

during mandatory minicamp and he's basically saying I had this plan before y'all niggas got me I get all that I get all that what was it this is that's what I get it that. I get all that. What was it? That's what, I get it. You could have had this plan eight years ago. What are you going to do? That's what I'm asking you. And this is shit Green Bay started getting tired of,

I believe. My personal opinion. Brett Favre did it first. Didn't want to show up to the minicamp and everything else to start giving excuses. But Brett Favre was doing,

was signing his contract right before the season started his last couple years. So he didn't have to go to none of this. Oh, I don't know if I'm coming back. I don't know if I'm going to

sign an extension with Green Bay. I may be retiring. And every year for three, four years, he would wait till all these camps was over and be like,

now I'm coming back. And then y'all sick of it. Aaron Rodgers, to me, is pulling the same shit. And he's like, yo, I get it though. At the same time, listen, I think that Aaron Rodgers, to me, is pulling the same shit. And he's like, yo, I get it, though. At the same time, listen, I think that Aaron Rodgers is smart enough, a great enough quarterback, a great enough athlete.

IQ is impeccable on the football field. He says this will not make a difference when the actual season starts. Trust me, I'm going to be there in them dog days when I need to be there. And I think he's smart enough to know that. And I don't think he would cheat himself or the New York Jets. But this just doesn't look good by example. When you're trying to set an example for younger players

or the organization trying to show, look, this is what we need to do to win. This is not a good example. But personally, I think Aaron Rodgers says to himself, and I think he did that with LaFleur and Green Bay. His attitude with him was, bro, I've been playing longer than

you've been coaching. I've actually won a fucking Super Bowl. You haven't. For real though, I think that's, seriously, they were bumping heads because, all jokes aside,

they was really bumping heads. You're right. It was just hilarious. Yeah, but that's, I think that's his mindset wherever he goes, even the head coach now. Like, bro,

I know what, have you won a Super Bowl? Have you been to a Super Bowl? Have you been to the finals? Yeah, do you know what it takes to get there? I then relax. You don't.

I do. I'll be here when I need to be here. Now I get that, but I don't think it's a great example to leave for the team. And not only that, New

York fans be on edge anyway. This is definitely not a good look for New York. But as far as my opinion on Aaron Rodgers, I don't think he's going to do anything to cheat the

game, but it just doesn't look good for an example. um i agree with killer um earlier in the show but this i'm gonna have to disagree this is horrible this is horrible and i'm gonna tell you why because you know how as you get older you think you could do the stuff you used to do when you was young i got hurt twice trying to work out like I'm going in. I know what to do. I'm going in there. I'm going to do this.

I'm going to do that. And every time it's like, no, you're not going to be able to do that. And that's the rude awakening that I think that Aaron Rodgers is is about to find out when he comes back. God forbid. But if he get hurt or anything is tweaked, it's going to be like this. Why you need it to be there? We needed you there so you can make sure your body can keep up

with what you're doing. You just got hurt. You're 40 years old. Don't think you just going to turn it on pause whenever you want to. Again, niggas. That's 19, 21, 22. And I think anybody that doesn't see that,

they're going to find out the hard way because when he gets back, not only does he have to show that he has to get the team to buy in. This is still a new situation. He hasn't won here. Like killer was saying, I agree with that. He has won and he has won a championship. But you haven't won with this group and these Negroes in New York. You got to teach them what you want to happen under fire. You don't learn in fire. You got to learn that before we get in the trenches. And if we never been in the trenches together, we're not going to be able to turn that on or make that happen when we're finally there is things you go through with people all the way

up to the problem that, you know, we we have enough cachet like killer use and we have enough history that breeds that trust. So when things go awry, we can figure it out because we trust the people we're playing with. But if we never had those kind of moments to build that, you're not going to just magically have that. And I think that's why when it got hard for the Ravens, they weren't able to do it. And that's the reason why when they when they got the seven, the 49ers got up on Kansas City, they've weathered storms together before.

So when we get in a storm, they were able to make it through that storm and keep playing because we won this way before. And Brett, I mean, Aaron Rodgers is not affording them to have that luxury. No, that's a great take, man, because also like he just got there and then he missed the whole year. And yeah, there's a lot of guys that he hasn't worked with. Like they signed Mike Williams on a one year deal. They got Garrett Wilson, but they're not familiar with him. You know, like if it was Pat Mahomes going on this trip,

I'd be cool with it because he's been there. They know each other. Yeah. Him and Kelsey, all those guys. Yeah, no, for sure. That's a great take there. And those guys that he's playing with, it's not just a matter of him being phenomenal or him being great or him being

stellar is can we do it pause together? And you only get that through working with each other and through going through tedious things over and over to build that excellence. Excellence is not just birthed like that is It's through a lot of trial and error. Yeah, and Cam, you ain't kidding about the Jets fans, bro. They might be the craziest of the New York bunch. Who do you think is the craziest fan base in New York? They got the longest drought.

They've been going through it. I wonder what all them Jets fans feel about that. they've been going through it when I said since Joe Namath since Joe Namath I wonder what all them Jets fans feel about that it was a 69 68 some shit with Joe Namath so

last time they won Martin Luther King was a lot that's crazy alright last topic before we end the show JB Bickerstaff signs with the detroit pistons

cam what do you think about this move for detroit and the next stop for jb bickerstaff how many years he signed five or something like that four years he'll be there six months don't keep nobody man they'll get a bunch of money and they'll be there six months congratulations though you're gonna get some free money if I'm all jokes aside if I'm him though

look niggas ain't want you where you at niggas just lost everybody should have a chip on their shoulder with the Pistons organization the whole fucking situation should be mad. Congratulations on getting another job because it's not easy to get another job, but it's hard

for them to keep coaches over there. We got to do some due diligence on their general manager and their owners because them niggas get niggas out of there fast and just give up money and throw it away. But I'm happy another black man got a job. Congratulations, black man.

Yeah, kill us. Happy another black man got a job. What was wrong with that? I don't know. I don't know what happened. I'm cool with it, too.

No, it's just the way he was standing at the camera. What's the last team Bernie coach? Pull that up, nigga. What's the last team Bernie coach? Bernie Bickerstaff? Yeah. What, his pops?

His J.B. Bickerstaff. J.B. and his Bernie. Two. The one that got the job now. Yeah, he was with the Cavs. He was with the Cavs. He was with the Cavs. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, I'm thinking about his dad. Yeah, like Killer said, he might make it through. No, he might not make it through the year because he don't have the players to make it through the year. I think this is just,

he knew somebody. They say, yo, I'm going to throw you the bag. You can make it happen. You make it happen. You know how them deals go. It's yours to January All-Star weekend.

If it ain't right by All-Star weekend, I'm going to have to pull you. Pause. So if you're going to pull me, make it for the number I talked about. And we got a deal. He's like, let me talk to them. And I'm going to call you back.

And he called him back and said, yo, January. Remember I told you about January. Have it right. Because I ain't going to be able to keep you in it. Yeah, I think all jokes aside, they're going to give him at least two years because they're going to look crazy just keep firing niggas every three, four months. Even if they want to fire the nigga next year, they got to keep him one more year because y'all are going to look, wow.

Y'all are going to look crazy just giving a nigga Monty $85 million or whatever it was, let him go after one year and he get to take on whatever he get to take on. They got to spend a whole new bag on a four-year deal. So basically, y'all niggas did nine-year deals with two coaches for like probably close to $100 million over that. But this might be the reparations. Maybe. It might be a nigga in the office saying, you know what?

I'm going to get all y'all some money after him if he don't work you come that's why i said i'm happy another black man got a job i don't see him making two years just keep it real if he don't get another player because remember he got Tobias. He got Tobias. The team is too light-skinned. They got to get some niggas in there. By the way,

Tobias Harris, I know yesterday he was asking who his agent is. It's his pops. Yeah, we talked about that when you left the studio. I like families like that. They can stick places up with no gun, take their money, and just laugh about the shit. Fuck it. We got what we can get the family straight. Don't go out there and hurt yourself like that, nigga. You light skin.

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