IT IS WHAT IT IS - DR. BETHA GIVES RELATIONSHIP ADVICE & HAS RUSS BEEN GOOD SINCE HIM & CIARA STARTED DATING?

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

Ma$e, Cam'ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are here with another one!! On this episode, our NFL analyst Arabia Tillery joins the show to discuss the fallout from the Monday Night Football game where we saw the Vikings STEAL one in chicago in JJ MCCarthy's first ever start in the NFL. The battle of OHIO goes to the Bengals but are we sure the Bengals are even that good?! Then, Mase says the Browns should start Shedeur to get the fans excited about something and what should the New York Giants do at QB? Lastly, Killa wants to know if Russ has been any good since he started dating Ciara and Dr. Mason Betha comes onto the show to give relationship advice! What do you think? Tell us in the comments below Please Like the video, comment, subscribe & turn on your post notifications for more content. Listen to the show on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/4Brb7BgCw4f4jwgS5v3sXQ?si=811988ecff7b416a Listen to the show on Apple Podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/it-is-what-it-is/id1719695401 Sign up with promo code IIWII and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-itiswhatitis #UDpartner Get you some IT IS WHAT IT IS MERCH! https://www.itiswhatitismerch.com Shoutout to our Sponsor Pink Horse Power! https://buypinkhorsepower.com/ ALL INQUIRIES, PLEASE CONTACT: [e-mail] Keep up with us on social media! https://www.instagram.com/itiswhatitis_talk/ Snap: https://www.snapchat.com/add/iiwii_talk2023 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ItIsWhatItIsTalk TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@maseandcam Follow Our Hosts! https://www.instagram.com/rsvpmase/ https://www.instagram.com/mr_camron/ https://www.instagram.com/treasurewilsxn/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm Treasure Wilson, a.k.a. Stap Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Cam. Killer was good, man. How you doing, man? I'm doing good, man. I know this, because I watched our show yesterday. You was acting like Mike Ack when the Cowboys lose towards the Chiefs Lords, but you was past as aggressive with it. They're not the same age. I said he got a different way when you upset about your team lose. I said, oh, I didn't pay attention. I didn't leave the subliminous.

They're actually not the same because he's old. I said, oh, murder don't like that. Title tale will be on the move, y'all. I'm just letting you know, man. Hey, man, look, I bought your birthday gift for you. You know, now people, buddy, people, million in the brief game. You know, I only get my nick cash. You get me cash, so I bought the gift for you today.

This has been sending my call for like a week and a half, man. That's good. I just want to... Passes, staff. That's good, no. Let me get this up for you, man. I just wanted to let you know. Happy birthday to you, man.

Happy birthday, man. Definitely, man. Yeah, man. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. These real bills?

Come on, murder. Not too many keep a mill in the briefcase. If Perez helped me sleep safe. Okay, okay. Yeah, man. The 20s feel like track money. No, that's my mattress. I ain't got, I ain't go to the bank for that.

I know the bill. Yeah, I ain't go to the bank for none of that. Oh, man. Oh, that was all in the house. Look at that, P.T. I'm gonna be honest with you with some old faces in there, too. The old hunters and all that. Oh, hunts.

Yeah, man. This is good. Stop. I love it when the plan comes together, you know? You know, it's hard to impress him. He said, this is good. This is cool. Do you guys feel like all are good at taking compliments?

Not really. Well, happy birthday anyway. I know I'm late, but they've been sending the car since your birthday, brother. Every birthday. No, I appreciate it. Because every birthday you got me, so I appreciate it. You celebrate birthdays?

Yes. I'm just action. I think birthdays are important. I think that this is dope that y'all like celebrate birthdays because that should be celebrated. It's another year. Yeah, man. Like I said, his birthday is before the cut off date,

so I miss his birthday every year. But thank you for the presents you get me, man. I appreciate it. Yeah, look at this, that. That's dope and happy belated again. Today we are joined with our analysts, Arabia. Arabia, how you doing? How you feeling?

Arabia. I'm doing great, thank you. Hi. How are you? You're feeling really good. Speaking of birthdays, my birthday was yesterday, September 8th. So, you know. Your birthday was yesterday?

Happy birthday, man. Yes, my birthday was yesterday. What you do? I see you as an NFL commercial and all type of shit you had going on, man. Yeah, the commercial is finally out. It was so much fun to shoot. But for my birthday, I didn't do anything.

I worked, went to Fox, watch some film because my son played football, so I watched a lot of film. It was just focused on football, so it was really good. That's what's up, man. What position does you do? your son play he plays defensive end and they play a national schedule so they're the number 10 or 11 team in the country right now so yeah and one time i actually seen he played but you know it's crazy murder i seen a video of her and she was she had she was teaching her son out of play

defense she's in the defensive stand like no you got to slide your feet i'm like you don't even know basketball like that but i like the hands-on parent i like that i like that You know, I do know basketball. I used to play basketball, but I just stopped watching it. But I know basketball. Okay, my bad. Because I know, I'll follow you, you know, of course we co-workers and everything else, but I follow you. And I remember when the NBA season started, you was like, somebody fill me in and tell me how this works with how football works.

So I didn't know how educated you was on basketball. I actually didn't know you used to play basketball. That's dope. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah. Well, happy belated birthday. Love to celebrate. Let's get into the Vikings.

They went on to beat the Bears 27 to 24. Arabia, are you more impressed with the Vikings or more disappointed with the Bears? I would say more disappointed with the Bears. First of all, with the 74-yard pick six by Nashan Wright, he officially is the fastest ball carrier in week one. But it's not always about how you start games, but how you finish games. The Vikings offense really couldn't get anything going in that in the beginning until the fourth quarter. The Bears defense has to close games. Caleb Williams looks a lot more poised and comfortable under first year head coach Ben Johnson, who came over from the Lions. This was a very interesting division game, especially after having seen the Lions Packers game.

But I'm definitely looking at the Bears defense to be able to close out games. We saw that in the Bill's Ravens games. You have to be able to close games. And also, J.J. McCarthy has a quote. he said that he grew up a Bears fan and he was really heartbroken when they passed over him for other quarterbacks. He said Ohio State did something similar. Asked them how it turned out. He went on last night to be the first player in NFL history to account for three touchdowns in the fourth quarter in their NFL debut. So shout out to JJ McCarthy and to Michigan go blue, but you definitely have to be

able to close out games and the Bears defense just did not do that. Yeah, I agree. I agree with you. I hate to say this, but, you know, it seemed like the Bears was consistent, you know, all through the game. But it just seemed like when they got to the fourth quarter, they just forgot that we got to play both sides of the ball. And that's the real reality of this. I am saffa, Caleb Williams, because he was playing really decent. But then when your defense throws it away like this, it kind of speak to the fact that the Vikings are like that. You know how you let somebody win most of the game? And then you just say, man, don't worry about it.

Them niggas celebrating. The game ain't over. They get the halve time. They were losing, but they wasn't losing by much. So they were always really in striking distance when they get to the second half. And then they just turned it on in the fourth quarter. Like they had another gear to go. And it doesn't seem like the bears have that.

Even though we speak of how poised it was, you got to be able to turn it up when it's necessary. And that's what the Minnesota Vikings did. They scored 21 points in the fourth quarter just means that they are really explosive team, if necessary. Yo, listen, I love the city of Chicago. Everybody knows that used to live in Chicago and everything else, but fuck the beers. Straight like that, my nigga.

Those niggins is the bad news bears. I'm not going to sit here and spend a bunch of time talking about this game. Every year some new shit, the Bears this season, even after the game, Troy Aikman and them, well, this is an upside for the beers. Caleb Williams started out 10 for 10. and he looked really good and it's promising.

Every year's fucking promising. And then they end up getting rid of niggas and changing the staff and changing the quarterback. He just don't even remember Justin Fields was playing with these knickers. Justin Fields looked really good in week one. You know, sometimes it's about finding the chemistry and the beers never give people time to develop

or develop chemistry or keep a coaching staff or keep a quarterback. I don't really care about the beers. I'm not spending that much time talking about the beers. I think it was really good for the vice. Vikings to come back and win, because the Vikings are always, not always in it, but they're always a roundabout in it. The beers are never in it since like 86. I don't think they won, I think the commanders won since the beers. Commanders 91, Arabia told me, beer's 86, so y'all got to jump

on the commanders. I don't care. I'm tired of talking about the beers. Last time the beers won, I had the Chicago beer pajamas, the refrigerator Perry, Walter Payton and them niggas was playing. I don't know if you remember that team, my nigger. I was wearing pajamas on the Pac-Man sheets, and I was playing with He-Man and all type of shit the last time the beers won. I don't care about the beers. It's never gonna work out.

I don't like Caleb Williams, R.P. O.J. Simpson. When he used to be on the show, we miss O.J. and love O.J. He was Caleb Williams out because he went to USC. And that nigga used to go home crying after they lost games. I'm not a Caleb Williams fan. I'm not a Beers fan. I don't care about this. This outcome was inevitable.

I don't care. I really don't. Bad news bears. So you literally don't like anything but the city? Love the city. A lot of the city. City. Those niggas know I love them.

West Side Van Braun, Pulaski, shout to all the niggas on the south side, the Hunnis, Stony Island, everything else over there. I love the city. Great people, great food, great women, cool-ass niggas. Fuck the beers. Hockey team, Blackhawks went. We know what the Bulls did.

You know, they ain't better been a little minute, but you know, the legacy. No, no, the Bears had one good season since I've been alive. I ain't jacking them, niggas. I'm not putting much through it, but I'm not going to be wasting my time watching them, like you said, Murdo. I sat there and watched the game,

and I was mad that I had to watch it. You know, one of those shit's really like, I don't want to go to work tomorrow and act like I watch the game and then watch it. And I'm like, they letting this nigga come back on these niggas, and I was mad. Want to be totally honest with you? Once they went up 20s,

17, I said, good, this game is over. I'm turning the channel. I ain't even see when they got 24 points. I turned after 27.17, it was like three minutes left. And I couldn't wait to turn the channel. Straight like that. Be sure honest. So let's actually go discuss some of Sunday's games because we didn't get to talk about some of them.

We're actually going to start with your team. So the Bengals beat the Browns 17 to 16 Arabia. How do you feel about the way this game played out? Well, first of all, the Browns had only won five. week one games in the last 35 season. So they keep that street going. But the biggest thing that stands out to me is that Joe Burrow had 2.9 seconds to throw the ball. That's a lot. And that's significant because he only had that much time in three games last season, always less less than that. And I count a lot of this to right guard Dulton Rizner, who was acquired in free agency on August

27. So about two weeks ago, he was acquired because right guard Lucas Patrick had a calf injury. And his past blocking was a lot better than his run blocking, but hopefully this addition, in addition to new defensive coordinator, Al Golden, just spells support for Joe Burrow because he needs it. Hopefully, this right guard can give him more pass protection. And also this new defensive coordinator can get the defense to help play complimentary football and get three phases of football to be more efficient. So Joe Burrow now has more time to throw. Hopefully they can sustain this all regular season. I'm not going with any of this. I think Joe Flocko is better than Joe Burroughs.

Cam, what you want to say to that? You're just trying to push my buttons. It's not going to work. I'm not trying to push your buttons. He actually had more yards, falls. So that makes some better? You would let me ask you this if we have a football team right now to start your football season.

Is your button pushed? Pause. Oh, straight. Yeah. That's nasty work right then. It's a nasty work right there for us, man. Yeah, that was a good. If we're starting a football team today,

you're saying you're going to pick Joe Flocko with Joe Burr? I'm just saying that game, Joe Flocko look better. I mean. I'm agreeing with that. I didn't say that. But you said that Joe Flocko is better than Joe Burr. And I was actually. We're only going on week one.

We're going on week one. This is what Statt was telling me yesterday. So are we keeping that energy? Yeah. It's not because your team lost. Superman. He's mad. Listen, let's be honest.

Let's think about it. Rabia team won, team one, week one, stat team one week one, my team won, week one. It's only one person of his team adding one in week one. You're moving to gold pose. I'm just asking about Joe Burroughs and Joe Flocko.

Who's the real Joe? I would absolutely take Joe Burrow over Joe Flacco immediately. Did Joe Flacco have more yards? Yeah, he did. Okay. Is it my go? I didn't know if you were doing. Is that all you had to say about the whole game?

If that's it, I'll go. I didn't know. I didn't know. But to Arabia's point, and to your point as well, Mace, you got to realize that you're absolutely right. Even with all the past protection he had, Joe Burrow only had 113 yards. But I'll tell you this much, man.

I'd rather take an ugly loss than an ugly win and a pretty loss. If we get it done, have what we get it done. You got to think about this. started 0 and 2, the last two, three, four, five seasons, if I'm not mistaken. So to get a win in week one, no matter how we got it, was really decent. Also, our running back, Chase Brown, he did pretty well.

You know, he helped Joe, I meet you, I have to say Joe Flacco, Joe Burrow out a lot. And we didn't play well at all. And it came down to special teams, miss field goals, miss extra points, et cetera. But I'll take the win instead of a, like, let's say, for instance, right, Patrick Mahomes was doing all type of fly shit

out there over day. He's looking like Globetide on the back, yeah, but he didn't win. And he looked pretty, though. His shit was pretty. So you'll say you'd rather have pretty lost than an ugly one. Is that what you, sir? No, I really don't really don't care about this game

because they didn't have Shadot out there. So realistically, I'm not watching the Browns until they put Shadour in the game. I just looked at the stats, honestly. But when it comes to the Browns, if Shador's not playing, I'm not watching the Browns. And I'm going to start the petition, for real.

I was just about to say that. Are we protesting? Yeah, I'm protesting. I'm not mad at it. The Browns ain't getting it together since I... I said, another nigga, the Brad News Browns. Them niggas, too. They haven't been getting it together since I don't even know

the last time since Jim Brown might have been playing. I have no idea the last time the Browns actually won. But if we're starting the petition, I'm down with that petition. Imagine you're 21 years old. You're super fly. You can play football. You come from a family of football.

They put a nigga in there 40 years old over you. You're probably going to be upset about that. Yeah, well, I believe, this is what I believe. I'm on Joe Flacco fan, actually. Me too, but I mean, I got to say what it is. Yeah, and this, you know, Shador, that's like my little nephew. It has nothing to do with Shadour, but what I'm saying is this. You all don't think about this, right?

The Baltimore Ravens actually got who Joe Flacco won the Super Bowl with got rid of Joe Flacco for Lamar Jackson, which Lamar Jackson still hasn't really proven itself to me and I'm a Lamar Jackson fan in the playoffs. Anytime it's a tight situation with the Ravens, even

the night before last on Sunday night game, when it's tight situations, he never overcomes a tight situation. Pause. And you get rid of Joe Flacco, which you said he's old of. Of course you're going to take a Lamar Jackson, but People forget when Deshawn Watson got hurt a couple years ago, they had Joe Flacco in and Joe Flacco played really well.

When, um, pardon me, when Deshawn Watson went out, went to Indianapolis, played well as a backup again last year. So for him to be starting, I think Joe Flacco would be great backup for any team, but I have to agree with you. Yeah. Him starting. Yeah, that's a disrespectful, though. I ain't going to say, I mean, he has experience.

Think about this, but you say, he's 40. How'd you think Aaron Rogers looked the other day? He's 41. Yeah, and Roger's look cool. I mean, but when it comes down to Shador, I'm just thinking about that. Like, realistically, last year I was, you know, Joe Flacco, pause, but in a year before that, every time he got on the team, I was excited that he was on the team. But when it comes down to Shadur, I just can't do that. I understand that. Not in disagree with you. I'm just saying, I'm not even, of course, I'm room for Shado. I want Shadoo to be out there as well.

But we're talking about 40-year-olds. And you talk about Aaron Rogers, 41, Joe Flacco, 40. As much as people love Aaron Rogers, and I'm not going to discredit his MVP's because he has four league MVP's. You know the same amount of Super Bowls as Flacco. You've both got one as starting quarterback. And that's really the ultimate goal to be a Super Bowl champion.

What do you think, Stan? Your old, 40-year-old lady, just take you a spot. Do I speak? Yeah, I want to know in real time your hands. How do you feel about that? Do I speak? You get this funny old chocolate lady put her right here. Say, well, she was good on your experience. How do you feel?

Oh, that's a good. I mean, of course you're going to feel some type of way. What would you say, though? You just got to do better when the opportunity presents itself. That's all you can do. Is it black woman power still? still? I mean...

Black magic? What does I have to do with... What does I have to do with anything? All right, I'm just wondering. If there's anything, murder, if you're gonna make the sacred pastor, it would be a white lady. Yeah, 40-year-old white lady. Right in your spot, would you be... Pause, you'd be tight?

Interesting. Yeah, I don't know. You wouldn't feel no way? I don't know. Yeah, right. Would you feel a way? Somebody was in your spot? Yeah, it happened to me.

That's why it's personal for me. I went to college. I'm out here going crazy. And the assistant coach was like 38 years old. Decide he wanted to activate his six-year killer that he didn't play. I'm like, there's no way I'm going to walk the bench. Not one minute, murder to finish one person from people who don't know. But you got to realize that this real quick.

They real quick. Murder told this story about. three times but that's how you know it ain't lying and that's how you know it bothered him that he's there in college as a freshman and then assistant coach he's like 28 years old and you know you're not fully developed when you're 18 19 he's like 34 man okay yeah and then he and then he walks on the court with you know the wrong shorts on and everything you're like bro what are you doing he's like this is how you run the play you're like what I'm out of Yeah, man, you'll come pick me up.

I'm out of here. That's what made you quiz school? Yeah. I said, I'm never going back. Yeah. Never going back. Yeah, I think I told you that, yeah. I told me that, yeah.

But you said it on the show for, like, six seasons. You told it at least one time. This is exactly it. Right. Yeah. I will say, though, to that point, things like that literally start, like, villain origins, so it's like when you see that and you know that you just have to sit there and watch

you have no choice but to like come back even stronger so that's the way that I look at it in a positive light even though that is frustrating he knows what he's capable of when the opportunity comes listen man listen and just giving y'all some shit for yesterday did you see Aaron Rogers post game press conference he said he said how you feel today he said I'm just happy to be anybody in the whole Jets organization because I thought I I know a lot of people over there thought I still come play football. So anything related to the Jets,

I'm happy to do pause to beat them niggers. So it be revenge out there, niggas feel away. Yeah, it's revenge season. Yeah, it's kind of ruthless, because even his relationship with Garrett Wilson, when they were playing on the same team, you would think that they were inseparable. Garrett Wilson had an interview where he was saying

he hadn't even spoke to Aaron Rogers since he did move. So at that point, it was personal. When it's personal, you gotta show up And that's exactly what Aaron Rogers did. So shout out to him. And then also shout out to Shador. You guys never know what's going to happen. OK, so now let's get into Arabia's team.

So the Giants lost to the commanders 21 to 6, Arabia. What went wrong for the Giants and how are you feeling about the commanders when? Well, first I want to say the doors of the church are now open. I'm having an altar call for new commanders fans. Get in now, getting early before we really start to get rolling. Because like Marvin Saps said, close the doors. Once the commanders really start doing well, close the doors. So I was really, really happy with what I saw, especially on defense,

Joe Witt Jr. preaches a culture of violence, putting your hands with somebody and being really fast and aggressive. And that defense was out there flying around. And on offense for the Giants, they really couldn't get anything going on offense because that offensive line was having a hard time going up against our defense. I mean, Jaden Daniels is the star of the show. And I think everyone expected him to come out there and be poised and put points on the board. But the defense is where most people had those question marks. So I was really happy to see. see that they came out flying around. Will Harris did really well.

The Ron Payne had a sack. Just all around, I think our defense was just a little bit overwhelming for Russell Wilson and the Giants. But I will say is I think it's more of a offensive line problem or a scheme problem. Russell Wilson didn't do horrible, but the commander just dominated on defense. Yeah, killer, the doors of the church is open.

You joining the commanders? Because I was already with the commanders. I told you that earlier. So the doors of the church is open, that what would you like to do? I would go to my own church. I don't know what to say to that. I don't even know what to say to you.

I don't have no idea. I mean, it's not a big winner. It's the Giants. But, you know, I've already said this is going to be my second team. you know, the commander, so I'm looking forward to what we got to do this year. You know, we got Jay and Daniels back and Devo, Sam. He's, you know, there's a lot of good things happening, Cam. You could join us early.

The thing about it makes you, this is what I'm saying. You're like, we got Javan Daniels back. Where was he going? He was he going? Like, what did you mean we got him back? Like, C.J. Stratt, right? He played good the first year, and then the second year, he kind of, he was all right. He wasn't the same, at the same time.

temperature as the, as the, as the first year. So this is great to know that Jane Daniels is keeping that same energy. I look forward to that, you know? I mean, there's not much to say when you think of Russell Wilson. He's not going to, he's not going to be any different than he's been in the past, you know. I don't think he's going to have a breakout year. Huh? Why not?

I mean, stat, don't start it, stat. When he's at the still, you love him, now you over here talking about why? Not not, the switch up is crazy around here, PT. Oh, the switchup is crazy. I don't know who's who's who no more. For real. It's worse, that the switch over is crazy. It's crazy.

It's so crazy. Listen, man, I'm gonna be honest with you, both of y'all. Listen, man, both for y'all, I ain't gonna lie. Listen, I have to agree with myself. Both of y'all niggas is, wow. You know it was crazy. Because Justin Fields was playing for the Steelers, starting for the Steelers last season.

And he was playing, he's playing pretty decent. And then everybody's like, well, he's not throwing the ball. He's running. And then Russell Wilson comes in, and he's playing pretty decent. And then he has a, you know, I think the Steelers was the last, the last four games of their season, some sort of similar to that. And then stat was on a Russell Wilson.

Like, yeah, nah, my pop said we need to pass a game. He was right. You know, Justin Fields was cool. He was just running. He was right. But we're getting a passing game of Russell Wilson. And then they start losing consistent game. Stack goes to the game.

Stack goes to Pittsburgh and says, I realize the problem. I'm taller than Russell Wilson. He can't see over the defense. He can't see over his offensive line. I'm just saying, though. The switch of his crazy stuff. He was cool when he was winning the games. That's what you needed.

But then when you lose. When you lost, when he started losing, you went down, what's the name when they say to? A creedure, I don't know. You don't even know what I mean. No, I can spell it. It's like a Creaser Stadium. Whatever it is, she went to a game, took her,

which was dope, was really dope, took her father to the first Pittsburgh Steelers game because they're a Pittsburgh Steeler family. And then her father, Papa Stat, what's up? I speak to him. You talk about treasure, discover something. She's right. Russell Wilson can't see over the defense.

I had to give it so. I say, yo, just forget the whole thing. I love that family, but you're a bugging. But also, Mike confirmed it, too. That was, I will never forget. I didn't even tell him that was my take. And he was literally like, yeah, Russ is a little too short. And that's exactly what I said.

If you see it, then you're like, damn. And it's kind of the same issues. You know, we had our good games, but it's kind of the same issues that I feel like are going going to transpire for the rest of the games now. So I still stand by that. Tell you so. And other people do, too.

After I posted that interview and you could see the side-by-side comparison. Russell Wilson is a Super Bowl champion. And to be totally honest with you, if Pete Carroll then make a dumb-ass call, he would have had two Super Bowl champion. He would have been a two-time Super Bowl champion. They didn't want to get the board of Marshawn Lynch. It's going to call a pass play on the two-yard line and get Tom Brady and that was Super Bowl. So to me and my brain, Russell Wilson is a two-time.

Super Bowl champion, even technically, technically he's not. But he was good enough to win the motherfucking Super Bowls. I don't think he shrunk since he fucking won the Super Bowls. He was good enough to do that. Back to you, Murdo. All of a sudden, this commander shit, I had to tell you, I was a Redskin fan when I was like, I'm not going to go back to that.

I'm not even going to dwell on that. But for you now, all of a sudden, Jayden Daniels is back. They put my pictures up there. Now, I think Green Bay too, and Green Bay and Wells in Dallas, and you got all these plays. Like, listen, man, the Mavericks, all these different places, I know, I understand. I forget.

No, your stat told me to pick a team, right? She told me pick a team. I didn't tell you, pick two teams. Basically, he's trying to say that's his NFC team. Yeah, that's what you said. So I picked the commanders. I ain't, I can just make this up? Listen, man.

I feel like, can I just say, I don't feel like you picked the commanders. I feel like the commanders picked you because when that picture came out, Then you were like, oh, this is good because they're winning. And it kind of worked out perfectly. That's my take. But if you feel woo-ha commanders, then that's you. But you haven't gave that yet. That energy when they've been winning.

I can't make this up. It's in the gear. If you saw me in the Redskins outfit, Killer, I don't know what to say to Killard. I will pull up you with every team jersey right now online, man. Don't make me go online and find you in every damn team jersey in America. Don't act like you had on a special commander. this jersey. I'll go on Google right now and pull up at least nine different teams you had on. If it matched your fitted in your sneakers that day, I understand it. I'm not jacking as. Anyway,

let me do. But you know, the first jersey I had on was the Chiefs, the red and yellow. The first jersey win, Mace. I know you since we was nine. What are you talking about? I can't break through to you. I'm talking about, bro. I can't break through. I'm trying. I need an intervention. I agree. We definitely need an intervention. My first, my first, my My first jersey I had was the red one with the white numbers with the yellow on it. I can't make this up, bro. I'm trying to figure out what I'm saying is how old were you when you had the jersey? You can't, you can't, you can't.

Like 16? We was in school together at 16. I don't remember you with a chief jersey at 16, bro. Cam, I can't make this up. I think you can. I actually think you came back. Anyway, listen, man, I can't even argue. Let me get back to the take real quick.

Arabia, I'm happy that you are happy. And look, I like what the rest of kids are doing. All jokes aside, like I said, especially Bob Myers, being there, Matthew Johnson, being there, Jayton, Daniels, just don't celebrate too early. Do not do it to yourself and be disappointed, because I remember last year, and when y'all was in the playoffs, you was in somebody's ball with a tall, talk about,

belt the ass, belt the ass. That's what we did. Next week, watch what the fuck happened with the Eagles. I'm telling you now, who want the problems with us? Nobody want the problems. You was in a bar celebrating on your high horse, and then the next week, it was Humble Pie. Now that's first and foremost, I'll give you that warning,

but congratulations on week one, me, you and stat, our teams actually won. Secondly, we'll do this. I've seen you, Arabia, to your credit, try on our, on my nigger Nick in the control room show, saying that the Giants may be all right this year. And you was giving him a little hope. And you put the battery in his back, pause.

And he's like, yeah, y'all got a new defensive player. That Giants may be all right. And I sent you comfort in him. And now he's talking about we need Jackson Dart out there. You know, nobody's fucking with Russell Wilson. Where's Jackson Dart? Everybody in America just gave up on Russell Wilson. And one game.

One game murder. And everybody's talking, well, they got to get the young boy Jackson Dart out there. Jackson Dart this, Jackson Dart that. Before the season, you talk about it, they may make some strides. One week, y'all don't get a touchdown now. It's Jackson Dart time.

Told you, Nick, I'm sorry. And I'm sorry that it didn't work out your way. But, Ravia, we will give you credit for that. Comforting Nick, telling them that they may make some strides in the NFC in the division. And it doesn't even look like it. I actually had Knicks back a little bit and told Michael Irvin that the Giants may have finished out of Cowboys. That will not happen.

That's just not going to happen. The Giants are going to finish last in the division, whether it's Russell Wilson or Jackson Dart. It's just not going to happen. But congratulations to Arabia. And I really do think Washington has a chance this year. And it's going to be Philly and Washington again in the division. But we'll see what happens overall in the NFC. So no congratulations, Mace, for the commander win?

Mace, your Chiefs Lewis. I'm just asking a question, no, not at all. No, I bet my, my second. No, I'm just asking a question. My second team. You're giving out congratulations. My second team. I picked that team before they ever had a game.

My team is Philly. My second team. Oh, okay. I'm going to be doing second team. I'm just going to go with Philly. My second team is the bills. You're going to do a second team. When you ask me these questions, I'm going to just opt out of it since it doesn't matter.

No, no, no, we'll just meet you where you're at and we'll continue where I am. Yeah, okay. That works. So commanders, Bill's Eagles, we'll see. Okay, we do have a half of further discussion about Russ versus Jackson Dart. So we will discuss that after the break and see who should remain as QB1 for the Giants. Don't go anywhere. She called this thing about it's toxic

Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, baby She's tired of hearing, I don't know My stubborn in me won't fall Oh, oh dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about

I want to be free welcome back now let's get into our underdog picks of the day on thursday the commanders will play the packers underdog has jaden daniels at 225 and a half passing yards do you have them higher lower mace how many 225 and a half passing yards for jaden dyns go higher man it's the commanders man who they plans that the packers it don't matter it don't matter that's a good game that's now now this is a real a good game because a lot of people, not a lot of people, a handful of people actually are picking on Jordy to be their MVP prediction before the season. This is a really, really good game, man.

I'm really excited about that. What day is that? Thursday. Oh, that's a Thursday night game. Yeah, it's a short game for Daniels. Well, it's either one of them. They both, I mean, Daniels is a little younger, but you got to think about this, that Aaron Rogers was pissed off that they drafted Jordy because they, like, he's like,

You're always drafted somebody who's not a receiver. You haven't drafted a receiver since I've been here. And ultimately, Jordy Love was Aaron Rod's replacement. And he played really, really well their first game. And if they dominated the Lions, their first game. Man, this is a goodie, man. And this is a point where Jaden Darius gets to prove itself. Because Michael Parsons is going to be on that ass, pause.

Hmm. I want to say higher, but I'm going to go lower. Okay. Jordan Love is at 227 and a half passing yards. You have them higher, lower cam. I'm going to go higher. Okay. And Debo, Samuels, at 49.5, receiving yards.

You have him higher, lower, lower Mace. I'm going higher. Yeah, we're going higher as well. Okay. Make sure y'all download the Underdog app and you guys can make your picks too. So before we continue the Giants Conversation, And Arabia real quick, because I know we won't have you till next week.

I'm just curious for that game, who would you predict wins? The commanders of the pack. What are you when they didn't fucking kind of question the act? No, because this is a good game though. Like, aside from her favoritist, like I want to know who she's going to win. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, Arabia, one moment, one more. What is the name of the Steelers Stadium that they play at?

It's a C-I-C-R-I-S-U-R-E. I just wanted it on camera. You don't even know that. I do because they changed the name of the stadium name, and so I don't be saying, I'm going to cruise your stadium. Like, I'm not saying that. I know Arrowhead. Okay, cool.

When's the last time you were at Arrowhead Stadium, Mace? Stat. I knew about, listen to this, because this is going to be good information for UN camp. The jersey I actually had on was Joe Montana, okay? So Joe Montana, when they had Marcus Allen, you know, back in those days, that's what we're talking about. So, when was the last time you were at Arrowhead Stadium?

What are you talking about, Joe? What you're talking about when? When you were 16? Yeah, I'm trying to tell you about when. Yeah, the jersey I had on. When you were 16? Yeah. Mace, when you were, was you 16 years old?

I'm just letting you know. I'm saying, how old were you? Oh, my goodness. You said 16 years old? I can't make this up. And you think I could make it up. Let me ask you to see. See, PT, this is what I'm saying.

Since he won't want to get you. He said he was 16, right? Okay. Did I decide, did you hear him say 16? No. Look at them, look at Google. Look at him. Look at him talking on his phone there.

Look at each, I caught his phone. I caught you. I already knew. Joe Martina did not plan to cheese when you was 16. He's still, he still, he's still, he said I had this jersey on. I knew it. I knew it. When I was 16, I had number 16.

I'm just telling you what I was. So I had on. So you had on the 49th jersey. But that's what I'm saying. He played for the 49th when you were 16. Number 16 jersey, you were 16. He didn't play for the cheese. He played for the 49ers when you were 16.

So I'm saying, I don't know. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Sometimes I'd be before my time. I have to slow down. You won the day. You won my day. I've always had this issue.

I answered a question before I'm back, you know? Yo, you won my, nigga. Yo, I'm dizzy. I don't swear to God, I'm dizzy. This nigger spent, I'm dizzy, brother. The nigger, yo, bro, the nigger out of his phone like this, like, he's trying to have his phone behind his side, like this. And they go like this.

You know, I ain't even doing it. Yo, all right, let me tell you, sir. You know how? I'm just saying, whatever, feature, whatever. Let me tell you something, you know how I know? Because when I went to college, my first year, and I was 18, and for my birthday, I turned 19. I didn't have a baby then,

but my baby mother sent me to Joe Montana jersey for my birthday, and he was still with the 49ers, and I was happy to have that jersey. So I know if you were 16 years old. You didn't have that. He wasn't with the cheek. Look at the minute's phone. No, I'm about to find a jersey for you.

I was picking up the jersey for you. Murder. It better be in one of the locker rooms and I play in a school or something or 116th Street. I don't want to see no picture and no, with no damn, with no bad boys on the background.

It better be the right background. I'm telling you that right now. Gay, get Axlerabia what you should ask us to say. Yeah, I don't have to do. too much and that worked out in my favor. So yes, Arabia Packers versus Commanders, who do you predict wins that game?

Because I want to get your prediction before we talk about it next week. Yeah, I actually have the Packers winning that game as excited as I was for the Commander's defense against the Giants and Russell Wilson and Tyrone Tracy. I think Jordan Love and Josh Jacobs have something else for the commanders. It's a short week for both teams,

but the Packers are at home. And the one thing that really concerns me about the Commander's offense is that it kind of stalled in that second half. One touchdown in the first quarter, one touchdown in the second quarter, nothing in the third. And they happen to score touchdown in the fourth quarter. But they have to, once again, learn how to finish games. They haven't done that yet.

So I'm going to go Packers in this Thursday night football game. You're a real analyst. You know, it's not personal with you or nothing, huh? You really going to give you that real objective as opposed to my partner over here. You really going to give a real agent. I like that, man. I really appreciate that But you got to notice, murder

Put on the red street Is that red? Is that command is marooned in the head? Yeah, that is. It's like a brown. It's really kind of like a brown But the light is messing with it, but it's brown. Okay, look command is reddish.

See, cute. I like that you're objective, man. Who you got, murder? To win the game. Commandish, man. Okay. I got to go with my team. I'm not doing that this year.

All right. I'm not switching teams so y'all can feel better. Okay. All right. All right. Okay. Yeah, I have no further comments. We will discuss you guys as takes a little bit closer to the game,

but I definitely wanted to get a rapist because I knew she was unbiased. So I just wanted to be able to say. Which team are you taking? Which team are you taking? I mean, just write the ball. bad the way the packers play i probably choose the packers but i don't know yeah you're bandwagon if somebody started playing good then all of a sudden you're just going to take them audacity man wagon yeah yeah wow it's a new season it's a new day that's bandwagon

bandwagon is what it's called you don't even know the name of your stadium i'm staying on that until you show up until you show up until you show up all my teams are red and yellow they're red and Oh. The commanders and the chiefs. Oh, we'll continue this debate another day. Let's get into the Giants. So the coach said they will be sticking with Russ as QB1 versus the Cowboys. Arabia, how do you see this unfolding?

A couple of things to just keep in mind that are worth noting. The Giants' first black quarterback was Gino Smith in 2017. Their first black quarterback to win a game. to win a game was Tyrod Taylor in 2023. They were the last NFL team to start a black quarterback. Now they have Russell Wilson and then QB3. They have James Winston and sandwich in between is Jackson Dart. And I don't think it's necessarily anything racist or nefarious happening, but it just

is worth noting they do like a certain type of quarterback. And so I'm just putting that right there, do with it what you may. And on the other hand, I do think once again, there are offensive line problems. problems. There might be even skiing problems. So if you are going to put Jackson Dart out there, make sure you're putting him in a position to succeed and you're not removing Russell Wilson to put in Jackson Dart who is a rookie and setting him up for failure. So and also the fact that he has to come out and say that already means there have been rumblings behind the scenes of them questioning who's going to start at quarterback. Dayball might feel like he's

on the hot seat for his coaching position. So it's not a really good start to this season, especially when you saw Malik neighbors of him getting into it on the sideline. But either way, I think they have to address more roots of the problem than thinking they can just throw Jackson Dart out there and he'll solve other problems. Yeah, I think the Giants got more problems than solutions when you look at this team and when you think of somebody like Russell Wilson, you got to give Russell Wilson more than one week. Now, if he's playing like this at week four, week five, then I think it's time to make that decision. But I don't, if I was a coach, I wouldn't make that decision until about week four because when you're looking at a quarterback of

this magnitude. He has the ability to show up next game and look phenomenal. And to cause that kind of uproar this early in the season is just tumultuous for the whole organization. Because what do you do? Put James Winston in. He's not going to do much difference. And then he'll be a good speaker like Cam says in the locker room and all of that. But then if you throw dark and then he messes up from the beginning, you don't have a future. So I think the best thing to do is let Wilson rock out and let them get to about week five if it's not looking well, then you make that decision then, but I wouldn't do that this early.

Let me ask everybody up here a question. This is your question. Everybody's stat, murder, Arabia. Has Russell Wilson been playing good since he's been with Sierra ever? I'm just asking, like, since they got together, has he had a good season? He may have them just asking. Because it's more news about that.

I'm looking at the shit and they're talking about, you know, Russell Wilson adds Wilson to Sierra's last name and Baby Futures' last name. That's bigger news. Wait, wait, wait. Nah. That's what that is.

That is. Yeah. I mean, that's cool for Sierra. Do you do that for... For a future, baby? Nah, I ain't going with that. That's what I'm trying to tell you. I'm not even going to speak on that.

That's too, pause. That's too loaded. Yeah, I'm just telling this. People fill a lot of ways. This is part of the news. So I'm trying to figure out, has he had a decent season since he's been wearing? I'm not saying he can't have one.

I'm just saying, just the shit. This is the shit that Joe Jackson was trying to stop to break up the Jackson five. You get what I'm saying? somebody people everybody can't do both you can't be a lover or a husband and then be that dog on the field paws or in the boxer ring on the basketball port some people could do both some people need like oh man i made for 180 million and i found love start throwing passes like this like like you my nigger i can't jack it if you can't tell me if you ain't have a good season since he did

yeah so they got together in 2015 sources say 2015 with the Seahawks, he had a 10 and 6 record, 2016, 10, and 6, 2017, 9 and 7, 2018, 10, 10, and 6, 2019, 11, and 5, 20, 2012, and 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 5 and 12, 2nd, 7 and 10, and then 2024 with the Steelers, a 6-1 record. So the last couple of years been horrible. Yeah, and has he won a Super Bowl since he's been with him, man? No. No. I wouldn't say horrible, though, because we're looking, 2027, 21.

and 12. That's 2022. That was the Broncos, and we knew that was a little. Yeah, he was buttheads with the coach, but this is what I was getting to allude into murder. It's been downhill. Yeah, you know, you can do better,

but you can't do better with every woman. I'm not blaming her, but, you know, that's the question you're asking, you know? I'm not, listen, I already... Like some guys can be married and do well, but it's the kind of woman you can do well with. I agree with that 100% because if they don't understand

what it takes for you to win. Yeah. Because you got to think about that. She adds extra stuff to your plate, pause. Right, exactly. Like, is he at home doing TikTok dancing stat? He looked like a TikToker. He looked like one of them niggins that would be jumping in.

Yeah, I don't know for this, but it's culturally relevant. He's been in a TikTok, but he kind of let Sierra do that. The point, yes or no. Has he ever done a dance for TikTok? Yes or no stuff. I know you know. I don't know if he's done a dance, but I've seen him in a TikTok before.

We've been in your TikTok. Yeah. But we're not dancing. Yeah. It looked like he the type to put on the leggings and do the dancing shit. You know what I'm saying? That's all I'm saying.

Is he a TikTok to like, forget it, man. I know the answer. Stop TikTok, nigger. You can fuck on the field for you lose your job, man. And I don't know if you're going to be good as a backup. the door will shut on you. The NFL is cruel and unkind,

and they will shut the fucking door on you. Keep it up. Keep it up. So are you blaming her? I like Sierra. I don't have a problem with Sierra. But I'm saying, put it like this. All right. All right, let's do it.

I'm not going to say names. I was with somebody. I was with somebody. Yeah. And they didn't see the vision. They didn't understand what I was trying to do. And they was like, they actually told me I wasn't that good. They said, you know, you wasn't better than Buckshot.

Yeah, yeah. This worth everything I love, bro. They say, yeah, you're not as good as you think you are. You should probably think about going back to school figuring it out. I said, all right. And as soon as I got away from that energy, I should skyrocketed. That energy was around me two, three years.

Soon as I got out of that energy, shit skyrocketed. The niggas doubled back like, oh, some niggas got Lamborghinis now. I can't get a little Ferrari. Nah. You got to go to the World War. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, we got to go Old Navy. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just saying, like I said, like you actually said it too, everything, certain people have to understand what you need to do to win. Yeah. And if they don't understand that, what's more important, winning or being in love with what you got going on? And I think it when it comes to, like, dual celebrities, right?

It's important that both celebrities know who thing Paul's is more important. Like, there's a lot of times where ladies get with, like, athletes and their singers, but he plays in the NBA or you dance and he plays in the NFL. And though you do have this celebrity, it's time to let that celebrity take a backseat to what this celebrity has because what he has is much, is much greater. It doesn't mean that you get rid of it, but you definitely have to know that that can't be first anymore.

Hey, man. Let me ask you this step. Hey. If you, if you, if you felt somebody who you're in love with and they're like, yo, man, look, you made a half a million

in the last couple of years. I got my little juice stand and I'm starting up and shit, man. You know, It's bringing in about 100,000 a year, but I think if we do it together, we can make 200.

And he loves you, you love him. He's like, fuck hosting that sports shit, man. I want us to work together every day and be together every day. But you love him. You in love with him. Are you gonna stop doing what you're doing to start the juice stand with him?

Absolutely not. Like, literally even, like, I'm such a workaholic and I gotta make my own money and I gotta do my own thing. I'll support his juice stand, if that's what he's. wants to do, but I'm still going to continue to do my thing. Like, I can't just sit. Like, I was saying the other day, like, I could never be a housewife. Like, I can't just sit

and not, not do something. And that's just me personally. I have to be using my brand. I got to be doing something. But to Russ's point real quick, because I will stick up for him in this situation. I definitely don't think Sarah is to blame. I think, like, that she's one of those girls that is that girl. And to say, like, the TikTok thing, like, I've seen Steph Curry do a TikTok. I've seen SGA do a TikTok when LSU won, the champion went to the White House, and they was doing the get the gait, they was dancing. So I just think, I still just think he's getting older.

The thing about it is, Steph Curry's getting old and he's winning. That is a great point. But what I'm saying is I still haven't even seen Russ in the TikTok, so. All right, here it is, just in case you haven't seen it since you act like you confound it. Thank you, P.T.

This is everybody act like they ain't see Russ TikTok. He's not really dancing for real, though. That is so wholesome. He says he cares about football, his family, and flying. That's real, that's real calm. That could be AI. That could, that don't even got to be him. That could be AI as wild.

Yeah, that could be AI. That's my new one. That could be AI. Yeah, we might as well just running with that. That's not even me. They're using your voice for memes right now. Yeah, man. That could be AI.

Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, PT. Pt got on the job for that, man. Oh, gosh. Anyway, that's that. We understand that people have talents and things like that, but it's just like when you get a better job

or you start making way more money, you got to put away, I think she's a believer. She knows the Bible say you got to put away childish things. When you get a grown situation, you got to put away childish things. We don't need that from you, you know what I'm saying? Arabia, what do you think? you haven't charmed it yet do you think she ever fucking up the vibe or not uh so i think that there's so many athletes especially football players who get white women shout out to all the white

women nothing wrong we're getting a white woman that when i do see black love at a high level in the NFL i like to celebrate oh it hurts russle wilson so shout out to sierra i love them i love black love they got some black kids and i love that for all the mixed people too that's amazing but another thing too if you have this concern if you have this concern about russellson and sierra do you have that same concern about josh allen and haley stanfield because she's an actress we saw her in centers they just got married so if that same thing is applied then maybe over the next few years we should see a decline in josh allen if she's also the type of woman who has a big career and his two celebrities um no it's not i think i think you guys are hearing me wrong it's not it's not a problem with having a big career It's the priority. That's the number one rule to having a great marriage. It's the priority. If you get the priority off, it's not going to work.

That's why good people don't work out because they can't figure out who's the priority here. It's not, people love to say what equals, but that's all well and good. When it comes down to it, somebody has to be the priority. And when people don't understand that, relationships don't work. So that's why you're seeing a decline in this play. It's not that she's not.

a good person the priority is off we say his priority just i'm just trying to yes clear so you feel like you force me into giving you the right answer that's the right answer i'm not forcing you the priority is off the priority can't be see if what pays all these bills is football then football got to be first if what pays these bills is her dancing then her dancing can be first but you you're But your dancing can't make a little bit of money and the football make most of the money and you try to make your dancing as important as the football. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. Yeah, talking about.

I had finished. And that's what's wrong with society. You got ladies out here and guys that are doing things but they can't recognize that what you're contributing is just a fraction and it's a small fraction of what makes this family run if it's about the family. And you care more about your success than what's best for the family. I like that. And listen,

I'm not bandwagon in the night, but, but yo, you know... I need a family show. No, yeah, you do. But that's a great point because it, and we're not just because it doesn't just have to be Russell Wilson and Sierra and Russell things. It's the same thing if the shoe is on our foot. Like, let's just use that same example. What if Russell

Wilson was up just on the practice on the practice team and Sierra was a 70 million right is Sierra was where Beyonce is that that's the priority would need to understand that even though you play football follow this path because this is the path that's that's supplying for this family and we're not telling you to stop playing football yeah but don't make it first right and that to me um and what Arabia said she brought up Josh Allen. Before we didn't get to Josh Allen, we'll just say this.

And like you said, it's new. So what you said, Arabia, will it be a decline? If anything, I think I had 251 yards in the fourth quarter. Niggins, they have 251 yards all Sunday, a lot of quarterbacks. He had 251 in the fourth quarter.

But I think a better example makes of what we're talking about is this. If you're busy and the person that you with is busy, y'all both understand that you have. things to do. So I'm not saying you have to have the same career, but you have to have somebody who isn't calling you every five minutes to see. Where are you at? What's going on? Because they're busy as well. A perfect example is Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift is a mega

superstar. Travis Kelsey is a star in football. They're both busy and they both get it. I don't know how official they love is and all this. I know that they just got to. gays but he wins super bowls yeah and we understand that taylor swift is the priority no matter if he won this football or not so we're keeping the same energy as it goes for us so you're not just making it a masculinity thing no in the situation of kelsey and taylor tell what taylor is doing should be put first so if she can't make the game he got to understand that that's how most women would see that if you're if you're super up right stuff Yeah, I just, yeah, yeah, I just don't know what I'm, yeah, I just don't agree. I don't think that

Russ hasn't made football his first priority. I think that in the off season, okay, cool, like, cool, like he's working with his family making sure that Sierra is happy. But I don't even think that Sarah is a good example because literally she has her whole own other thing going on. I just don't think Russ is that good anymore. And I've said that since last season. But when I say it, everything's, I'm just making things. Like, I just don't think he's that good.

I gave him hope because he was with my team, but I don't think Sierra's to blame. I would say something, but I don't want it to come across the wrong way. Okay. But how good is Sierra music anymore? I still feel like if you're going to say that Russ I still feel like Sierra got some jams. And she's, like, releasing something new.

Like, I don't know. It's a question. It's a question. It's not a, no, it's a question, not a take. I still feel like Sierra's music is still good. And even if you feel like her music isn't good now, I feel like the music that she's had in the past is enough to carry her on still for now

because she has hits regardless. When people see Sierra, regardless of how you may feel about her relationship, I still feel like she lights up a room and people want to hear her music. She puts on a performance. She still sings good, so I just feel like that's not a good family. You know what you're doing right now? What?

You're ruining Russell Wilson's career. I don't think it's me. I don't think it's me. And let me tell you something else, too. And I'm like, I like, status, your opinion. I like, that's why I like your opinion, because, first of all, you're a woman and secondly you're young. I love to hear these opinions.

But if you think that Russell Wilson didn't boost her celebrity, because they think that niggas be like, yeah, she's. she got that nigga tied around her finger. He do this, he do that. I remember, I got a clip. I'm like, we can't play it on this show because it was on first tape. And same way that you, you feel the way you feel,

Stephen A was talking about it, and Molly was saying the same things that were saying, and niggas had the camera on Stephen A. They're like, because this is when Russell they caught the check for like a hundred and a sudden million. And Molly was like, Sierra getting money too. Niggas put the camera on Stephen A.

He was like, it was like, it wasn't supposed to. to go in. But you know, he was like, what? What? She ain't getting a hundred fifty-eight million. I like Seattle. I guess I don't want none of this to come off the wrong way, neither. None of us do. It's just a, it's just a reoccurring subject

that keeps coming up, and it's sad that people can't see the fine line. But, you know, whatever they want to do in their relationship is their business. It's just somebody asks me to question, I will mind my business, but it's hard to keep hearing ignorance over and over and over. Yeah, and listen, not to cut you off, Mesa, I apologize.

But at the end of the day, this is what I'm saying as well. This is all opinionated. Because Mesa has an opinion, I don't mean he right, because I have an opinion, that I'm right. Nobody's right. It's all opinionated. But I will say this, stat, you wrote down this topic. You wrote down that Baby Future got the last name.

You wrote Bounda Sierra got the last name. But the whole point is, no, no, what I'm saying is, Why is it news? So now when we said, it's like we bugging, but this makes the news. If it was no big deal that Sierra or Russell or Baby Future got the Wilson last name, why is it in the list of what the fuck we're going to talk,

not to you, but what are we talking about? Why would you even put the baby in there? Because I put it in because we talk about sports and we talk about trending topics. Yes, absolutely. The fact that it is trending right now, I knew it would be a great question. Why is it trending?

Why put somebody's baby in it? The way that we took it, people were just curious on if you would basically allow for the last name change. That's where I thought we were going. We went a completely different way. That's how I know we all think different. And that's why. I mean, I don't think no man would want his son

to have another man's last name, especially if you're out here doing great things in his life. Yes. Yeah, it's not like, yeah, you go on. You go on. marry this guy yes you go on and you be with the guy whatever but don't take my name off of my son that's and what's even worse i'm not even going to get into that but that's that if it was me outside of that situation if my if my son my son wouldn't be nowhere else but if he was then

you got to keep the beth the last name i agree with you 100% because what's even worse to me is this they keep saying baby future it isn't like his name is derrick or michael or rachar his name is baby future so now's baby future wilson yes this was low this was you got to keep children out of it that's literally his name last thing i will say because this i think you went low this week no i didn't i think this is a good discussion last thing i will say before I let Arabia have her take and we wrap. I just think regardless if a player underperforms

anything situated around them is going to get blamed even just with Taylor Swift being a super superstar. If Travis Kelsey has a bad game, it's linked to Taylor Swift. If Russell Wilson has a bad game is linked to Sierra and this is not to even just bring them up, but even if Travis Hunter does something.

Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. If Clarissa Shields get knocked out Yes. We were blaming on Pat Poole. She didn't get knocked out before that. We faction facts. Come on.

Y'all keep trying to spin it like a man against woman thing. I don't even think it's... Larissa going there with Lela Ali and getting knocked out in the first round. You mean to tell me nobody is going to say they're not going to put Pat Poo's in none of this. And shout out on, Larissa. You know, you're not going to get knocked out. Shout out the Papoose. I just had to make this clip.

What would you say about that? Because you're spinning it on the lady's side. I don't think so. Because if Asia Wilson has a bad game, they're not blaming, bam. I just think regardless with certain people, people are just going to feel some type of way because of the person they're associated with if you like them or we're not. Because it's a glow up.

If somebody glow you up and they glow you up and they go down, people are going to, people are going to. Pay attention to that. But kind of like, and I'm going to bring Arabia's point back, when you see how it's going to go from years from now on because it's newer, we don't know the effects of what it's going to be. Because now we can have a comparison stat to say, dang, since they were together, how does it look?

We won't know until we see the seasons after that. That's all I'm going to say. I think it was a great conversation. This is not a little ball. Anybody's child, because I'll never do that. Arabia would love to get your take before we close. Yes, you close us out. Shoot the men down.

I don't think it was that to begin with. I would just say, I don't know what's going on in their household and there could be correlation and causation. And just because something has the same trend doesn't mean it's caused by that thing. So whatever they're happening and that's happening in their household, shout out to them, but I'm not going to correlate that to whatever is happening on the field. Okay, so you're your mother of one, right? Yes.

Yes. Okay. So let me ask you a question. If your child's father, Fana, Batty, and she's glowed up, and she makes $60 million a year. And for some reason, your son has to live with your dad and the Batty. And the baddy name is Johnson. And she's thinking about changing your son name to Johnson. Are you going with it? absolutely not um there's no situation if i'm an active parent in my child's life that that my child's name should ever change no situation where that would ever happen no you should be attorney you ask the right questions great question great topics great discussion thank you staff thank you for putting it on the dogged and yeah and let me and i add on to this i want to ask Arabia, but she, I like Arabia's answer, but I ask everybody, why won't Jaden Daniels' mother letting them go out and play? She won't let them even hang out with the basketball joint Ju-Ju-Watson. Why not? She knows what we're talking about. It's a distraction. Yeah, it's a

distraction. Exactly. Exactly. That's so you can correlate it. It's not an anomaly. She said, y'all are not going to get to my son before we get these trophies and these MVP and all y'all bid the dancers, the singers, all y'all stay away. That's what I'm saying. She, his mother understands what the potential could be. She understands what happens off the field

can affect on the field, contrary to popular opinion. Ravit, did you have a last take before? Yeah, I agree with Mama Daniels, 100%. And I agree with you guys. What happens off the field affects what happens on the field. But there's a difference between these groupies trying to get at Jaden Daniels for his money and your wife who's supposed to be taking care of you at home. So I would say these groupies are the same thing as here.

Right, but what I'm saying is this, how will he ever find a wife if his mother won't let him talk to nobody? That's my point. She's like, groupie's wife, nobody, football. I don't care, we're doing football. You need some pussy. We'll buy you some pussy and keep the bitch moving. We're not getting in no relationships, man. But real quick, so Arabia has a show that comes on every Tuesday on our network

and every Friday, Arabia talked to us about the show real quick so people know. Actually, it comes on later today after our show. Tell them about the show real quick so they know what's going on. Yeah. So first of all, thank you so much for this opportunity to you guys. I really appreciate it. But the show comes out every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday at 4 p.m. My co-hosts are Champ Bailey, Matthew Judon, and Coach George Hegeman. Every Tuesday will be with Matthew Judon. We are co-host. We are also co-parents. He's a defensive end for the Miami Dolphins. We have a six-year-old son together. Every Wednesday will be with Champ Bailey. We're talking skill positions. And every Thursday will be with Coach George, we're talking trenches. So you can catch me all 32 on the same network as it is what it is every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 4 p.m. Eastern Time. Welcome to the family, even though you already been family, man. We appreciate you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Make sure y'all tap in. But that is all the time that we have for today. Arabia, it was a pleasure to have you as always.

Thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. What you want, what you want, nigga, everything nigger, super size, too big necks, like when they doing them two for five.