IT IS WHAT IT IS - DR. CAM'RON GIVING OUT RELATIONSHIP ADVICE, SUPER BOWL PREDICTIONS & TOP 5 QB'S LIST!

Episode Date: September 3, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one and on this episode, Arabia Tillery joins the show to talk give out our Super Bowl predictions, who are the top QB's in the NFL, Dr. Cameron Giles gives relationship advice and an update on the injury that Packers' Micah Parsons has heading into the Season! INTRO (0:00) Welcome Back Arabia! (2:30) Super Bowl Predictions (4:30) Dr. Cam'ron Giles (15:00) Micah Parsons Injury (22:00) Underdog Picks (38:00) Top 5 QB's(40:00) Checkout Arabia on social media @all32nfl ! What do you think? Tell us in the comments below Please Like the video, comment, subscribe & turn on your post notifications for more content. Listen to the show on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/show/4Brb7BgCw4f4jwgS5v3sXQ?si=811988ecff7b416a Listen to the show on Apple Podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/it-is-what-it-is/id1719695401 Sign up with promo code IIWII and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-itiswhatitis #UDpartner Get you some IT IS WHAT IT IS MERCH! https://www.itiswhatitismerch.com Shoutout to our Sponsor Pink Horse Power! https://buypinkhorsepower.com/ ALL INQUIRIES, PLEASE CONTACT: [e-mail] Keep up with us on social media! https://www.instagram.com/itiswhatitis_talk/ Snap: https://www.snapchat.com/add/iiwii_talk2023 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ItIsWhatItIsTalk TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@maseandcam Follow Our Hosts! https://www.instagram.com/masonbetha/ https://www.instagram.com/mr_camron/ https://www.instagram.com/treasurewilsxn/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I told this thing It's like 30 years ago Man The roosters come home The roosters come on Yeah man Yeah man You know what I realized

When I say stuff I got Because I say shit And just move on And I realize my words hurt man But you did tell me About this shit

30 years ago I totally agree with you. But what I'll say is this, because I know people are probably like what you're talking about, but Dame, I've seen some message, and I got it yesterday, and I won't say anything today about it, about anything.

But see, but I only have one thing to say today. I'll save it for talk with Flea, because I can't implicate murder, but murder did tell me 30 years ago. I ain't gonna say what he told me. So y'all today, we are joined with our analyst, Arabia. Arabia oh my goodness hello hello how are you

thanks for having me what is that call you did with your hair oh it's like an andre layered middle part situation period oh yeah cam don't know what the umbra is you know what the umbra is camp yes ma's I didn't have to access she just told you what it was why would I repeat but what is the umbrae you tell me Do you know what wispies are? Do you know what the wispies are? You don't know what... You're spinning it.

I'm asking you about the umbrae. Do you know what the armbri? I'm asking you to tell me what it is. Lord, I'll pay attention to females. I know about wispies, the mink eyelash. I'm into all that. Just tell me what the umbrae is. That's all I'm not.

I don't believe you know. I don't believe you know. I don't believe you know. It sure makes a lot. I'm just saying. What's up, Arabia? What's up, Arabia? Hi.

How you doing? Hello, how are you? I'm great. Thank you. Happy to be here. How are you? Good, man. We missed you, man. For sure.

Yeah. And the Umbre is popping. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Ombre, more than Umbra. but I appreciate it. Thank you. You know, she speaks Spanish. For real, real.

Yeah, that's why she's correcting you. Because you're not, that's why I would throw it off. You wasn't pronounced her. He wasn't pronounced. You wasn't pronounced. Your pronunciation was off. You brought it up. But hey, hey.

Anyways, agreed. Arabia, you look beautiful. Glad to have you back. you are definitely missed. Now we've got to get into the football. Yes. So this is our way too early Super Bowl predictions. Eagles wants to love y'all.

Do you guys think that they will win the Super Bowl again? I know it's early, but how are we feeling? What are we thinking? Arabia. Yeah. So for my Super Bowl picks, I have the Nigel Bowl that everybody wanted a few years ago. So out of the NFC, I have the Eagles going to the NFC conference championship game. They did lose some pieces with Milton Williams, C.J. Garner Johnson.

Josh Sweat, Brandon Graham, but their defense should still be very solid, especially with those exciting whites back there with Reed Blankenship and Cooper DeGine. On all fans, they're led by Jalen Hertz, Sequin, AJ. But honestly, this is Jalen Hertz's 12th offensive coordinator and nine seasons dating back to college, but he seems to be able to adjust very well. They're going to be good, but I think they will fall to the Lions. Again, really, really early to say this, but the last time we saw the lions that were getting their backs blown out by the commanders and the divisional round of the playoff games 45 to 31 but don't get it twisted the lions are very dominant when fully healthy so at the lions coming out of the nfc again way too early out of the aFC i have the bills in the conference championship game they're projected to be the

highest scoring offense in the NFL even though they haven't led the NFL in scoring since 1990 but they're projected to do that this year um defense should also be solid but i think they will lose to the ravens i have the ravens coming out of the afc if and it's a really big if if Lamar Jackson, Todd Monkin, offensive coordinator and John Harbaugh stick to their identity. They tend to lose their minds in the playoffs. If they stick to what they know and what they're good at,

in the playoffs, they have a really good chance this year of making it to the good game. So I have the Lions, Ravens, and the Super Bowl. What do you think? Do you agree or no? Lions and Ravens. What is going on? That's horrible news, Arabia. Excuse me. The Lions shout out to Detroit.

Shout out to everybody in Detroit. I'm going to let you rock. I'm going to let you rock. Shout out to Detroit. But you know who's going to be in the championship, the same team who's been there for the last couple of years. I think this is the year. Patrick Mons is really upset with what happened

and transpired last year. And he's coming back with a vengeance. I'm just letting you know this will be the best season that we see from black quarterbacks. I think all the top quarterbacks will be black. This is going to be the year that that happened. I'm putting that out there just so y'all know it's not steroids or anything like that. It's just going to be a nigger Super Bowl, you know,

but not the type of niggins she's talking about. So I got. What's the type of, what do you mean? I mean, you're going to have. So not the type of niggas she talking about. I mean, the top, the top quarterback is going to be black this year. Okay. All right.

So I'm just letting you know that early. But I got, um, of course I got. Casey I got Kansas City and I'm gonna go with your team I don't see why you didn't pick this I'm gonna go with the commanders that's lovely I don't know what you just said I have no idea what they just said he's one in the whole circle said a nigger bowl like Arabia said it then he went back to not that type of nigger that's the only where's the DJ I like this niggas He's just spending it.

Those all black quarterbacks. I understand what you're saying, but you didn't say nothing really that she didn't say. You just kind of just piggybacked off what she said. No, she didn't pick the commanders when it was all said and done. And she didn't pick, um, Kansas. No, you picked two different teams, but leading up to your picks, it was shaky.

It was turbulent. You landed the plane. You landed the plane, but it was mad. It was early in this season. It was mad turbulent. I'm getting my feet wet. Listen, yeah, I'm mad at that. Listen.

this is a good question because to me it's very hard to repeat that's first and foremost if we're going to say and go off paper we're going to say in say Philadelphia sure repeat Arabia brought up a lot of great points and I'm glad that you were being realistic and then pick the commanders because I thought that's where you were going when we originally started your take and I'm like look at her about to go right so emotions yeah yeah exactly I'm really, really proud that you pick the teams that you picked. I'm not mad at the teams you pick, but the two teams that you did pick, those are, to me, those are two, and don't get me wrong, the Lions, the last two years have been making noise.

They started three years ago when they almost made the players of their namebooks. They started becoming favorites. But to me, those are the two biggest teams that let down outside of the Buffalo Bills, the Lions and the Ravens. They get to the show, they get to the dance, and then what they do, they let you down every year. So I'm not going with those two teams. That's who I'm not going with. Are those good picks?

Absolutely, those are good picks. But the NFC is up in the air. I don't really like anybody in the MSC outside of Philadelphia and actually the commanders. I don't know what San Francisco is going to do this year. I think Tampa Bay may be all right. I like the way Tampa Bay. played last year as well.

We had Mike on the show. We told them what it is for the last 800 years when it comes to the Cowboys. But as far as the NFC, I mean, if I have to pick somebody right now, I'm going to go with Philadelphia, but I'm not feeling strong about that pick. But unlike Arabia, I'm going to actually pick my team.

The Bengals, we're going to the Super Bowl. We got Jamar Chase signed back. T. Higgins. You know, this is, we start a season off happy. Every season we start off happy. I don't care, murder. I don't care.

I'm saying, that might as well say the Stiller's going to be in it. Again, you've got to be realistic. Yeah, listen, man, we got to act. Niggas is acting like Joe Burrow and go to Super Bowl like three years ago. Then he got hurt and then we have unhappy campers when your wide receivers are assigned.

Like last year, even though Jamar Chase started the season off, it was contract disputes. But the year before, and the end of last season, the end of the season before last and then leading into last season, So he played, and he was pissed off. And he didn't come to a mini camp, training camp, and then played the first two games. He did good, but he was pissed.

And then what happens, he still wins the triple crown. Joe Burroughs still gets the most yardage as last year as the quarterback. It's the defense we got to worry about. It's nothing about the offense that we have to worry about at all. Now, we re-signed Hendrickson, which is good for a one-year deal. But we're going to be a high-powered offense is what our defense is going to do. But I think that the offense will be so great that even if the defense lets up 22, 23, 24 points a game, that we're going to put up 30 points a game. And that's who's going to be in the Super Bowl.

So I'll pick Philly for now. I'm not happy about Philly. But it'll be the Bengals in Philly unless I see something different than the NFC. And then real quick, Arabia, how do you feel about the Bengals? I got to get your take on Cam's takes. Yeah, I mean, so, Cam, you just said, which is a really good point, it's not the offense. the problem is the defense that's the problem and if the defense lets the other team score 20 30 points that the offense will make up for it but that's exactly what happened last year the bangles were losing games even though they scored 30 sometimes 40 points so I think unless the defense itself gets better the offense sometimes just can't can't make up for it so I don't see it happening unless there are significant strides on defense no you're absolutely right but if you think this is going to happen two years in a row and somebody ain't going to get slapped the shit out of them in the locker room, it's going to be a problem this year.

You think Jamar Chasing T. Higgins and Joe Burrow got this contract? Somebody on defense is going to pay, and we're not going to know about it. It's going to be behind closed doors, going to be foot the ass, and somebody's going to pay. You're not going to keep having me score 35 points, and the other team scores 37, 38. So I'm not saying that you're incorrect, but I don't see this repeating, this pattern repeating from last year into this year. That's what I'm saying. And then real quick, Mace, before we start discussing the team that you love talking about, since you brought up the Chiefs, we did see Travis Kelsey and Taylor Sliff got engaged.

Did that move you? How did you feel about that news? You just got to get your input. I mean, that's good for them. I don't think it really changes anything for us. We really got to move forward. I don't even talk about Taylor Swift right now. I think it'll put too much focus there.

I think the focus is going to be there regardless, but I hear you, GM. That was a very GM answer. You said it doesn't move us, got it. Yeah. We'll see what happens with the Chiefs and Taylor Swift, but shout out to them for their... Shout out to the Swifties and all of it.

Is Kelsey a Swifty? Yes. He has to be the ultimate Swifty now. That's his, that's going to be his wife. That's a wow. I love that for them. I love it. I think that's great.

Niggas is Swifties? I thought the Swifties was... Because like with Beyonce, I didn't know if his name. niggas in the beehive? Beehive, yeah. It's niggas in there? Yes.

I wish I always say I'm part of somebody Swifty or beehive as a grown-hawk. That's what it is. I thought it was all females. No. So let me ask you this, could a nigger be a barb, the Nikki Minaj crew was? Yes.

I've met male barbs and I've met male Swifty's. Where you met Bill Barb's at? Miami. Oh, yeah. Not like, like we're at, so I don't go there. In concerts. Niggas be like, yo, I'm a barb. Well, you can tell, like, if they,

like, you know, it's like, okay, you're a bar. Niggas say clock it. That doesn't make them a barb. I'm just saying, those are mannerisms of male barbs. Let me ask you this, Arabia. Would you be mad if your boyfriend's a barb? Yeah, that's a good question. Absolutely.

I would never date a man who would ever call himself a barb or anything like that. It's a rat friend. Thank you. That's all I'm checking. You said, you know what? Statt dated white guys. Would you date a 50?

Oh my gosh. No, I'm saying they don't got to be white or black, but stat likes eclectic niggas. Like, let me ask you this question. Because I, sometimes I just feel that makes me feel like, oh, you know what's going on. Can your, can your boyfriend have colorful nail polish, Arabia? Absolutely not.

The most of my boyfriend can do is go get a manicure, maybe some clear over it, but that's as far as it's going to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's important. There she go. There she go. I just don't. Yeah, because that's what if it's what if it's bubble gum pink? No, just clear. That's it.

Thank you. I just check. She, she stabbed each on, make it seem like y'all, wow, and y'all out the loop. It's cool. I don't care if he has a nail polish on. It doesn't matter me and I understand that I get it, but that's why I want to check in to see if I'm just that much out the loop. Not out the loop.

You know what I think, though? It's a problem. I think it's just preference because like for me, and I know we're all topic, but I think, Monogamy ruins really great relationships. So I think you have to just do what's best for you in your relationship. I like your take when I seen you on your Instagram

talking about that man, that one that I like, I like your perspective on life, man, because she feels that a man shouldn't have to only have one female. And I applaud that. She gets it. She gets it. I respect that. Listen, no, no, I respect it because she understands.

We all, we're hunters. by nation and it's my nation and at the end of the day if you're honest with your significant over your wife whatever you

whatever your partner and you're honest that's what it's really about all jokes aside it's like it's like bro nobody want to get caught cheating and lying

and all that shit like yo you know this nigga and not you man I'm just saying people in general stop lying like yo

that's just like that's It is annoying, man. You coming out to the hotel, your phone ring. You scared because it's your girl. Like, yo, why is ringing now this bitch seeing me coming out the hotel? You're tired of being scared all the time. You know what I'm saying? So I did see your take on that.

Maybe I'll bring you on talk with Flynn. We'll have a discussion about that because that's a great topic. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about it. I'm with it. I'll just say really quick before we move on. Y'all should definitely be on the same page. But if you're going to be worried about cheating and stuff,

then just be single. That's just what I feel like that is. Just be single and do what you want to do. The thing about it is this, that, it's a couple things. It's like, you may want to be in a relationship, but that don't mean that we, you know, or we've been talking about there's three seasons

that you don't want a little dip off, but I want to come home. I just don't want to have sex with you every time. This is, you know, you have to realize when marriage and you don't want to cheat on anything, This means you don't want to have sex with anybody for the rest of your life ever. Think about that.

No more choices, no more variety. It's just me and you in this bedroom family. You want different meals. I think if you love a meal, go get that meal. That's what I think. But Arabia understands that, that I understand, Arabia considers herself the filet mignon, but I understand that he won in New York State tonight.

He won turkey wings once in a while. You know what I'm saying? I hear y'all. I love that it works for y'all. Me personally, I'm just eat the filet mignon. I ain't fin to go get no wings and no exercise and no mashed potato. I don't need it.

I'm good. No, and that's why we all, everybody was the same person like to be boring. That is true. That is very true. You know, you can't. I mean, he's right. Dr. Jobs is crazy.

Yeah, I'm saying. That's what makes the world go around is that everybody has different perspectives on stuff. Imagine everybody. That's why I get mad at sin all the time. He wants me to think like him. I'm like, what if I thought everybody thought the same way? The world would be a boring place.

So it's good to have different perspectives on scenarios. And then I understand where you're coming from. I'm not going to lie to myself anymore. Or to my partner. And believe it or not Girls be liking girls just as much as niggas be liking girls to be Likeing girls to be honest with you A lot of these girls be off

Girls think there's a girl's trip PI it's a lick cat trip It's the truth Neo's having a great time Neil looks out and I love that for him Everybody's different That's what I'll say. But I'm saying, too, girls be acting like they're going on on girl trips,

and they really be, they really be out there for each other. That's a fact. We all live different lives. Have any of you ever flirted with you and tried to come on to you? Yes. Exactly. That's what I'm telling you. Wow.

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to tell you. It's like, it's cool now. You don't have to, a lot of stuff that when I was growing up and you probably grew up, you have to hide and you can you have to keep it a secret and now it's more open to where you go walk down the casino holding hands with a with a girl in each other or even you see men holding hands or whatever I'm just saying a lot of stuff you have to keep secrets so a lot of shit is out in the open like when you see when I see somebody 50 years old or 55 years old twerking on Instagram I'm like you wish you could have did this in 92 don't you

He's trying to catch up for lost time because it's cool now. It wasn't cool to do it. In 92, you had to go off your face card, and that mattered. Wow. Well, I love that everybody's living in their truth. Shout out to the Swifty. Shout out to the barbs. Do y'all's thing?

Would you date a barb, a nigger, a nigger barb? No. But he can like, obviously, Nicky Minaj music, but I don't think. I like, yeah. That's not saying. But a barb, a barb is like, extremely. like it's to a certain I don't I don't think I could date anybody who's obsessed with a celebrity in general but that's just my thing but shout out to him I don't you like what you

like that's what we like okay so all this shit because Taylor Swift got engaged murder yeah got here we were on a 30 minutes conversation Bob's the swift piece you check out I've been checked out yeah Okay, well, this is not going to check you in because it's still kind of Cowboys-S, but we're going to get to it. So Mike Parsons has been dealing with an L4-L-5 facet joint sprain in his back. His status for their week one game versus the Lions is uncertain. Now knowing this, Arabia, how do you feel about the way things went down for the trade with Michael Parsons, the Packers, the Cowboys? We spoke about it a little bit yesterday's episode, but want to get your thoughts on this.

Yeah, this doesn't change anything for me. this was a known injury. It's not like he was hiding it. He actually sat out in practice because of this when he was with Dallas. They had him on a five-day prescription for cortisone, and they also had him in physical therapy. So they knew about this injury. And actually, if he does end up playing against the lines,

it'll just be eight days after he was traded. So I think some people thought he was sitting out as a ploy because of his contract, but it's actually a serious injury. And to this point, we saw how close the NFC North was last year, particularly between the Vikings and the Lions, this win, week one, could come around and bite either one of these teams in the butt come playoff time. Because for the Packers, their last seven games,

six of their last seven games are division games. So you want to kind of get a one up on your division mates early on so that later on the season, if you have any injuries, your team is banged up, or if the other team is rolling into the playoffs with which really good teams tend to do, you want to make sure you try to collect as many wins in that division as much as possible so this doesn't change anything about how i feel about the trade i think good for him for getting out of there it's a toxic environment um and some people closest to jerry jones

don't want to hold him accountable obviously but he got out out of a really toxic um environment so good for him yeah i i really think when you give him somebody 188 million 136 of it is guaranteed a 44 million dollar um um bonus he got to play is nowhere around if if i'm the gym he got to get on the field for that cash especially if the money that he's getting for that type of team because you think about what was going on in green bay the the city needs him out there and i know it will be premature if he get hurt or anything like that but this is a city that need a good a good win and he need to be out there so really quick even with his injury you think it's worth the risk i'm i'm not sure how how injured he is i don't know a lot about that

but if it's a back injury definitely he wants you you will want him out there if he's not like really injured you know sometimes people say they're injured and they're not so i don't want to make light of it if he's really injured no he don't need to play but if it's just you just got the 188 go out there for the fans the money's guaranteed first of all Ray what do do you mean he left a toxic environment why why wasn't a toxic an environment because it was what do you mean by that what do you mean he left a toxin environment good yeah I don't I think I see what you'd be doing now and I'm gonna I'm gonna feed into it the Cowboys are the worst sports and this is now not all 32

this is Arabian now the Cowboys are the worst sports organization in history led by this Tales of the Crips horrible owner who most people want to stay in the position he's in because he's the cowboy's worst enemy. And like I said about the Bengals before, Jerry Jones and the Cowboys can game plan for Jaden Daniels and for the Giants defensive line and for the Eagles dominant defensive offense. But Jerry Jones is the Cowboys' worst enemy and good for Micah Parsons for getting his ass up out of there. So that's what I mean by it's toxic. Jerry Jones wants to be the superstar diva doesn't want anybody to outshine him and he wants to just make all these decisions

and be weird. And not everybody wants to be a cowboy under those circumstances. So I'm about to go on a ramp. But yeah, the cowboys are trash. They're horrible. And because they're led by Jerry Jones. You know, I'll say this, how many Super Bowls does the Redskins have? I'm a former Redskins fan. Listen, real quick, and I know their commanders now, I'm saying the Redskins because we know the commanders don't have any Super Bowls. I'm from Joe Disman, John Regan's, Art Monk, when I was 8 and 9 years old, I had the

Redskins phone like this helmet right here. Like, I used to pick the phone up, and, like, I was really a Reston. Finn, Joe Gibbs, quarterback, all that shit. How many championships does the Redskins have a rating? They have three Super Bowls. What's the last time they won the Super Bowl? Just asking.

91? 1991. Right. So Jerry has more recent Super Bowls than the Redskins. That's what you're saying. Well, when was the last Cowboys Super Bowl? 96. That's what I'm trying to say. They're more recent than the Redskins.

So that's what I'm like that. Okay. Yeah. So 91 was a. Over 30 years ago, and five years from 91 is a drop in the bucket compared to three decades since both teams basically won a Super Bowl. Spending how you want. They won a Super Bowl more recently than you guys won a Super Bowl. Secondly, he won, he sported the team for $180 million already.

The team is worth $10.13 billion. How is it the worst organization in the football? In football history, if you bought it $480 million and then it's worth $13 billion, they won a Super Bowl more recently than the commander slash Redskins, whichever you prefer calling them. I like that, I know that they're the commanders, some people are sensitive all of a sudden over the Redskins, which I don't want to be insensitive. I'm just calling them Redskins because that's who won the title. How are they not a better organization than the commanders? Because I don't confuse quantity with quality. Although the quantity of the value of the Cowboys have increased

since Jerry Johns have bought them, the quality of the product on the field, especially over the last couple decades, has decreased. And Cowboy fans have actually been fed up with it. So I say that to say, yes, the organization is worth a lot of money, but that does not mean that fans or even play. enjoy the environment that they're in. And I know in the 90s, when they're winning Super Bowls,

a lot of close relationships were made and genuine connections to Jerry Jones and those guys are still loyal to him, but today in Big 25, he's not making decisions that are conducive to the Cowboys' quality of product on the field to be optimal, which is why we've seen players trying to leave and complaining.

Michael Parsons, arguably the best team player on that team, wants to leave. And he doesn't care anything about how much that Cowboys are or worth, he cares about the environment he's in. So I don't see those two things being connected to each other with how great of a franchise they are as far as quality is concerned. Yeah. The thing about it, Michael Parsons, when I've seen this statement, he said he didn't want

to leave. They just didn't offer him the right money and that him and Jerry was, his agent wasn't involved in the negotiations. And he felt slighted. But the thing about it is you're saying quality, like y'all have so much quality. Y'all ain't that quality, quality, all this shit. Y'all niggas, you know what y'all did? Y'all hired Magic Johnson and Bob Myers

and turned shit around. And that's what happened. Y'all ain't the Kremdella Krem? Yeah, something like I'm like, ooh, Tiffany's Blue. Y'all niggas ain't that. Your niggas hired some good niggas two years ago. It's looking like y'all spun the team around. And now, quality over-qual.

No, y'all niggas has popped the last 38 years, too, man. Y'all been popped. Now y'all got Magic and Bob Myers who know how to win, which Rich D's was. fantastic hires, fantastic hires, super good. What was Snyder doing up there in the morpices? What he's doing with the woman? Yeah, no, no, no, no, let's do.

You want to talk about owners? You want to talk, you want to get on Jerry? What was your owner doing for the last 30, 20 same years? Up there, fondling females, up there groping females, and more. It was a big scandal up there in the office and the front office. They had to rename it to the commanders because they wanted nothing to do with what Snyder was doing. What about your team for the last 25 years?

What is your owner have done? Well, my owner is not Dan Snyder. He is gone out of the building like, Jerry Jones is me. This is what I'm talking about murder. Now, those are not my owners. Niggas, no, murder, niggas with dirty sneakers for 20 years and get a fresh beer kicks.

And niggins talk about, I don't know, about those shoes at all. Yeah, whose shoes is those. God, guys, God, Dan Snyder's not, I want to continue. Dan Snyder's not my owner. So my owners are actually turning around an entire franchise from the top down, which the Cowboys and Jerry Jones should do.

Number two, I don't know what this juxtaposition between the Cowboys and the commanders are like, why y'all? And it sounds like y'all, like, it sounds like you're putting your cape on for the Cowboys. I'm not sure why, because I thought the Bengals were your team. But it sounds like Cowboys fans and Cowboys purists always try to compare themselves to the commander so when there's any type of criticism it's like oh but what are you doing when the fact is it's plain as day to anybody who can see the situation

that it can be a very toxic environment when you have your owner coming out bashing players and trying to do all these under the table deals without agents and any excuse is even adding to that toxic environment instead of holding the owner accountable so change can actually be made. Don't nobody want to be a dag on cowboy under Jerry Jones in these circumstances? I'm not a Cowboys fan. I'm a Jerry Jones fan because I watched the documentary and now I'm a Jerry Jones fan. So yeah, that's happening a lot. Actually, a lot of people said that you should watch the documentary to see the kind of guy that he is and see why people are so loyal to him. And that I can actually understand. And I'll compare it to a UFL player who played for the Cowboys and ended up

going to the ufl he got in some trouble when he was a cowboy jerry got him out but as a ufell player he also got into some really big trouble he didn't have jerry jones and that backing behind him i think jerry actually really does care for his players i think he cares a lot about dallas and the organization i just think sometimes it might be well intended but what he's actually doing doesn't translate to being conducive to a successful organization as far as quality he's a moneymaker he's a businessman but but it's not always the best look as far as optics in the public eyes. So I can see why watching that documentary,

you would then be defensive for Jerry Jones. I'm not defensive. I'm just creating, I'm just creating conversation. The only reason I'm not being defensive for the Cowboys whatsoever. I'm just trying to wonder why you're down and somebody and you had a pervert running your organization for 25 years and now you're telling them about

y'all the Crem Della Crem and all this other. you got a mouse in the house who's running that team. And now y'all got new ownership. Now y'all got new ownership. My mom's in my house. Yeah, he's up now. So I can talk that because he's gone. That's not my owner anymore.

I ain't mad at you. Yeah, talk that shit. Yeah, she said. Mama got a brand new bag. Okay. So on the topic of Jerry Jones, because some quotes kind of came out he was talking to the media.

So I'll make it clear he did praise Michael Parsons. He loved him as a player, but he did say, I don't regret anything at all. I'm very excited about the prospects of what we've done for the Cowboys here. I wouldn't have done it. I had total control over being able to have it the other way. So I'm excited. We got what we wanted. So just on Jerry's behalf, even though we don't exactly know what's going on in his

mind, Arabia. Why do you think Jerry Jones is so excited about this? I think it's twofold. I think one of it might be. And just making sure that there's a positive spin to this story because a lot of people do have negative things to say about Jerry Jones, including me and about the cowboys, including me. So he wants to make sure that as far as he are, it's a positive spin to this situation. But I also do think that he gets a 2026 first round pick. He gets a 2027 first round pick. And he gets a defensive tackle. So I think there is a lot of good that came out of the situation as far as building for the future, getting things next year. But at the same time, the Packers aren't a bad team. So I don't know how high those 2026 and 2027 picks are. But nonetheless, they are still first round picks.

So he's right. There is some good that came out of the situation. So I think two things can be true. It's kind of PR positive spin, but also at the same time, there was a lot of good that came out of it, even though they lost their best player. What's the good PR spin? Because I'm not hearing it. So basically, like, there's been a lot of negative things coming from Micah in his camp.

Right? So they're saying that Jerry Jones didn't meet with his agent and wasn't calling and wasn't answering the phone and that there's just a lot of shady things happening behind the scenes where he invited him to come speak about leadership, but ended up wanting to talk about a contract, just things like that. So all that negative PR that was coming from Micah's perspective, now the positive spin is like instead of actually recognizing that there has been some kind of, you know, conflict between both parties, they ended up coming to an agreement, blah, blah. So the positive spin is basically him being like, oh, yeah, and this was great. And this is exactly what we wanted. But if this is exactly what they wanted, I think they would have come to this agreement a lot sooner. Yeah, I definitely don't believe he offered him the money that he was getting in Green Bay.

So it probably was just best for him to move on. And you're saying, what's the exact question that? Yeah, basically, why do you think Jerry Jones is so excited about this? Because he was telling the media, like, they got what they wanted. They're good. I don't think that he's excited. I think that this is what he has to say to make it look good because it, and that's another thing. And I know, no, Arabia wasn't on yesterday and Mike was on yesterday.

And I'm, no, we're talking about the Cowboys on the last three weeks and leading up to this Thursday night game as well. But like I said, watching this documentary, you get the feel of his personality. And Jerry, one thing about Jerry Jones, it seems like he doesn't want to look like he's stupid or wrong or anything like that. and so many people are mad that the cowboy fans that Michael Parsons did leave so that he's trying to smooth it over and be like, well, look, we got this and we got a player now

and like Arabia just said, you get the draft picks. But, nigger, first of all, Green Bay is not going to be at the bottom of the list. So you're not going to get an early draft pick. Not saying you can't get a good draft pick late in the first round, but it ain't going to be like top 10 draft pick. That's first or foremost.

Secondly, Jerry's spinning it. It's just a way to comfort people. They're going back to when they traded Herschel Walker and all that shit, 30, 40 years, I haven't fucking long ago. And, like, look how that trade turned out. Now, it's not the same thing. Hersch Walker was a whole different position than Michael Parsons. But it's just spinning.

It's just to make the fans calm down, make it seem like it's comfortable, but none of them Dallas fans want to hear that shit, you know. Okay. Now let's get into our underdog picks before we go to break. So this Thursday, the Cowboys will play the Eagles. Underdog has Saquan Barclay at 96 and a half rushing yards. Do you have them higher or lower Mace?

Higher. Ain't no mic or there, yeah. It's a fucking hard. Fogynard. He might go over 200. Yeah. Okay. Dak Prescott's at 246 and a half passing yards.

You have them higher, lower cam. It's a good one, too. I'm going to go higher. Got your weapons, nigga. Two what? 246 and a half passing yards. Lower. Okay, now George Pickens, I hate this.

55 and a half receiving yards, you have higher or lower, camp. You tell me, Staddley, you're still playing for the Cowboys now. He's happy where he's at, so. He's going to get that because things are going to be, you know, after a while they're going to focus on CD land. That's a good pickup for them, to be totally honest with you. I don't look at him as a high top five receiver,

but he's definitely a good second option. He shouldn't have higher than that. Yeah, higher. that that got to do his job now he got weapons okay make sure you guys download the underdog app and you can make your pigs too we are going to go to break when we return we will discuss the top quarterbacks in the league don't go anywhere players of 2025 list. So it starts, you know, with obviously 100 players. But we're going to discuss the quarterback. So their top five quarterbacks on their list was one. Lamar Jackson, then Josh

Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, then Jalen Hertz. Arabia, do you agree with this list? Who would be your top five quarterbacks going into the season? Yeah, I agree with this list. I don't have a problem with it. I think there are certain things that a lot of quarterbacks do well and don't do well. I think pretty much for the most part everybody has the same top four but just arranged differently so most people have Lamar Joe Burrow Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen in different ways that fifth one is where people start to disagree so I don't have a problem with this list at all a lot of people discredit Jalen Hertz for having so many weapons around him or for having a really great defense and say that because he doesn't have to overperform for his team and that his defense can

his team sometimes that he's not top five quarterback and that he doesn't go through all his progressions all the time and that he runs too much that they count it against him and i understand but i don't really have a problem with this list yeah i really do um this list this list is kind of irritating because i got i got patrick mahomes number one i got um lamarne number two and i got a three-way tie between joe burrows um what's his name from Buffalo. Josh Allen. And we're talking about Jalen Hurts.

I got Jalen Hurts at number three tied with all of them because he's the one that got it done. He's the one that got the championship. So I don't think it's even possible to keep bumping them down when he's the one that made it happen. I don't care what you says around him. There's weapons around Joe Burroughs. There's weapons around Josh Allen, clearly.

And he panicked in the last second of the game. so I got to go with, I got to go with the winners. Josh Allen panicked? Yeah, you remember the playoffs? That nigger threw that shit and that nigger. He and that nigger dropped the pass. That shit went before that. It was the play before that when he ran and got caught.

He could have to win Superman. The last play of the game for his season last year, he threw a dime to that nigga and that nigga dropped the fucking ball, bro. Let the city down. But back to the list. You're sure this? Yeah. I'm going Patrick Mahomes at first.

I don't really like agree with Mason. Yeah, thank you, Cam. Yeah, but, you know, I don't know if you really know Title Town in Patrick Holmes as an investigation going on that I've been working on for the last year and a half. I didn't want to say anything. But at the end of the day, look, I do have a problem with the list. As much as I think that Lamar Jackson is the most gifted,

probably an athletic. And not only that, of course, with his legs, pause, but the fact he's accuracy throwing to MVP's. When it comes to the playoffs, it matters. It matters to me. And I have to, and as much as Mace is talking about trying to disliked my nigga Josh Allen, I fuck with Josh Allen. I think Josh Allen, to me personally, right now,

and even though he uses his legs but right now in the NFL to me he's the purest quarterback I'm talking about in the pocket even though he runs he's not Lamar Jackson running anything like that he's a big nigger pause that runs a nigga over but he's canon accuracy

I think he's the best quarterback pure quarterback but if I'm making a list Patrick Mahomes goes at the top of my list secondly Joe Burroughs goes second in my list because as much as we say Joe Burrow doesn't get the job done He has a fucked up offensive line. Defense sucks, so on and so forth, whatever.

He got to the Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson has not got to a Super Bowl. Josh Allen has not got to a Super Bowl. They haven't got there. And even though Jaylen Hertz has won a Super Bowl, you don't win that Super Bowl without everybody else. And I think Jaylen Hertz is probably, and I don't want to put him as a game manager,

because I think he's better than that. But that's really what he's doing. You got fucking weapons on both sides of the field. You got arguably the best running back in the game. And your defensive line was just fucking stellar. What the fucking niggins average height was, six, eight last year or whatever the fuck it was? I had a great team around him,

but you do have to do your job as a quarterback. So I'm not going to put him above Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. I'm going to put him number five. And I know I'm saying I'm like a homo because I'm giving Cincinnati all the love. But it's the facts. He got to the big dance with all these problems that everybody talk about with Cincinnati. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, until you get past Patrick Mahomes, you won't be at the top of my list.

And Arabia, I do want to clarify really quick because we see that Mason Cam here, do have Patrick Mahomes as their number one. So you are keeping Lamar Jackson at your number one or like, do you feel somebody else's kind of there? I just want to just make sure. That's a DMV. Yeah, Lamar Jackson is definitely at my number one. want. And I think it's because even when you look at the quarterback position over the last few decades, it's changing in terms of what pure means. So if you're an NFL purist, that means that you have good pocket presence. You climb the pocket and you kill a defense with your arm. But now we see an emergence of mobile quarterbacks, not just mobile quarterbacks like Randall Cunningham was a mobile quarterback back in the day. So there already have been them. But there's so many different types now. Lamar Jackson is really innovative in terms of that. I think he creates 11 men. on the offense. And what that means is sometimes the quarterback

takes themselves out of the play. So there are 10 men on offense because you have to worry about the other 10 men on the field. But with Lamar Jackson, you have to worry about 11 men on that offense. And he can be a nightmare for defensive coordinators. Not to say that Patrick Mahomes can't, because Paschamukamah also is a different type

of mobile quarterback. But to me, it'll be Lamar Jackson. Who beat the Ravens last year? I might ask in the playoffs. What do you end up? Who beat the Ravens? Does Buffalo? Can be white man.

Yeah. Yeah, so how you got them, how you got them like higher than all of them? I mean, how are you putting them above Patrick Mahones when he couldn't get past? Josh Allen. My thing is,

because I don't always, I don't always think that wins and losses are quarterback stats. There are times where I've seen Lamar Jackson be directly part of the reason why they lose especially in the playoffs like we see he did not protect the ball the way that he needed to last year in the playoffs he fumbled the ball we also saw that he had some pretty poor decision making but i could say the exact same thing sometimes about josh allen or i can say the same

thing about you know other people but i think josh allen plays significantly better than lamar jackson does in the playoffs and in that regard playoffs do matter but i still have more jackson at my number one and you know who you can't say that about do you know I have an idea of what you're going to say, yes. This is what I'm trying to say. That's why I don't know how this makes sense. But, Cam, go ahead, Cam. My thing is, listen, don't take this the wrong way.

I'm not talking about rabies. I'm just talking about people. Lamar Jackson's spectacular, super duper. I think he's probably the most talented quarterback. But I've seen this before. When Michael Vick, see, people don't remember Michael Vick. Yeah. Michael Bick was doing all this shit already.

Michael Vic invented this shit like he he walks so Omar Jackson can run the shit Michael Vic was doing before the dog case was amazing all this running and scrambling

and yo I've seen this movie already that's why I got a matter to me to win and like I said that's why it's like Super Parmy football is the ultimate team sport everything matters all three phases defense office special teams etc but I see

Lamar Jack's spectacular And I'm not saying he isn't like a 2K version of Michael Vick. But I've seen it, murder. Atlanta Falcon Michael Vick was ridiculous, my name. Yeah, the hot top cross trainers with seven on it. Yeah, crazy. So that's why maybe I'm not too like, and I love watching Lamar Jackson.

I don't want people to take it away, but kind of seen something like this before. It's kind of like, you know what it's like, murder? And like I said, it's 2K version, but niggas love Kobe. Yeah. But I see Mike. Yeah. And I love, and I'm not dissing Kobe.

I'm just saying, I happen to just see Mike. That's just the problem. Well, then again, there are no wrong answers, and that's why I like to hear you guys. Yeah, I like to hear you guys' thing because you guys all have very different perspectives and even just hearing like Arabia give her answer. It's like, hmm, you never really know.

So in the comments down below, let us know who you guys' number one pick would be. We do got a little bit of a wild card because 21 overall is Jaden Daniel. So he would be the sixth best quarterback in this list. Arabia, do you agree with that or do you not? It's really hard to judge someone's rookie year over all these other guys' entire body of work over their career. I would say he had a very impressive, significant rookie year. And if we're just talking about one year, then, yeah, Jaden Daniels can be six. That's completely fine with me.

He actually, yeah, he might be higher than six. I would put Jaden Daniels in terms of this one year above Jalen Hertz. But as far as their body of work and their entire careers, you can't really compare them. Let me ask your question, Arabia, so you put in, you put him over C.J. Strout? As far as last year? As far as just in general as the quarterback. That's the, it would have to be just off of one year since he only has one year in the NFL. And in that regard, I'm actually, I'm not actually, I understand that he's a rookie last year.

Right now, do you think he's a better quarterback to C.J. Stroud? Yes, I do. Because to me, I like Jane Dan. I'm a huge Jay and Daniels fan. I really am. But to me, and we'll see. Yeah. That's the year, CJ Strauss.

had his rookie year, then he had like a kind of downer as a sophomore year in the NFL and we'll see what happens with Jayne Dayne's. I'm rooting for the nigga though I like the name. And then real quick, Mace, would you put Jay and Daniels at 6th or you feel like too early? What do you think? No, I got them going to the championship.

Who's the top five? Top five, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Patrick Holmes, Joe Burrow, Jalen Hertz. My former, I just wanted to perform. Oh, yeah, I got them. going to the championship, you know. I think that what he did last year, I think it'll be different than C.J. Strout, because he got his moms with him at every game.

So he should be pretty focused. I like him away from the baddies. I like Jay and Daniels a lot. And like I said, to the thing about it is that's why I'm like, what's the criteria for this question? Because you can sit there and be like, yo, are we going off what they did last season? Are we going off who's better quarterback, just period, because Just because somebody had a great season last year,

that doesn't mean that they are overall better quarterback to somebody. I'm not taking Jane James over Justin Herbert. I'm not taking Jayland Hurts over Justin Herbert. It's just Justin Herbert. It's not a good situation. He ends up getting hurt. But as far as being a pure quarterback,

I'm not taking even one of them niggins over Justin Herbert. He's just bad luck. But as far as being a pure quarterback, even one of them niggas fucking with Justin Herbert. That's why I'm asking, what's the criteria of the question? Because if who had a good, better year last year coming to this year, yeah, those are great answers. But if we're talking about who plays the quarterback position better today,

I'm not taking Jalen Hertz or Jaden Daniels over, Justin Herbert. I'm just not. Okay, and then real quick, yours, I think it's, go ahead. No, go ahead. No, no, go ahead. Because, Kim, I think it is interesting that you're putting a lot of emphasis on style of play. So it seems like you really value this pure, pure quarterback sort of pocket presence guy. Like you'll put Justin Herbert over all these other guys who, to me, are more mobile quarterback.

So is the style of play a bigger factor than their actual accuracy or things like that? I mean, I get what you're saying, that you're saying that I'm picking, like, traditional style player quarterback. but I don't think Patrick Mahomes is traditional. I think Patrick, yeah, I've seen Patrick Holmes throw up behind his back and the game. I see a nigga throw it with his left hand. I don't think he's traditional whatsoever. He's my number one quarterback on the list.

And then after that, my criteria goes on situations. And when I say that's why I put Joe Burroughs ahead of niggas because my thing is this, when you go to, when we go to Lamar Jackson, like you said, To me, I don't think it's a more talented quarterback than Lamar Jackson. But now we're getting in the situations. Year after year after year, it's always Sunday in the playoffs. Yo, he didn't protect the ball last year.

The year before that, he couldn't get the junk. Then you run, you lose to Josh Allen. Then who does Josh Allen lose to year after year after year? He loses to Patrick Mahomes. The only person who beat Patrick Mahomes in the last five years is Joe Burrow. So I'm sitting there not just taking the criteria of, how good they are, but also the situation that they're in. Peyton Manning, a lot of people say that he's the best regular season quarterback ever.

He wasn't really that good when it came time for the playoffs. Tom Brady was good when it's time for the playoffs. So Peyton Manning may have the title of best regular season quarterback ever, but when it counts, is he available? He got one Super Bowl, really two Super Bowls, but he got one when he played good. You know, the defense won the Super Bowl when he was in Denver. But when it matters, where's Peyton Manning?

that. That's what I'm saying. That's my personal. But it isn't about style of play. Pardon me, it is about style of play, but it's also about when you're in that situation, when the light shine the brightest, what are you going to do? Okay. Okay. Good takes y'all. And I think also the surroundings have a lot to do with it. Like, I know you said made light of Magic Johnson and Bob Myers being there, but that's going to turn them into a better pro. Now, I was just fucking what her about the rest of it because she was trying to diss the college relationship,

but I think you have to bring in winners. Yeah. Magic Johnson is not win by accident. Magic Johnson is a champion as a player, as a GM. He has a fucking championship with the Sparks, the lady basketball team, with the Dodgers. It's not by accident you bring him in the win. It's not by accident you bring Bob Myers,

who recruited Steph Curry, Draymond Green, Clay Thompson, and then you get four or five champions, It's been the sixth championships, Kevin Durant. These people know what to do to win. I was just giving Arabia a hard time. But that's really what it's about. Bringing people in that know how to win and surrounding yourself with a winning team,

that matters. You're absolutely right. I agree with that. For sure. Okay, and then real quick, Mace, because you said his mom is keeping him away from the baddies. What's wrong with the baddies? Nothing.

I'm just keeping them focused because if he stay focused, we're going to win, you know? We. Yeah, that's my. That's my East Coast team, you know. And shout out to Michael Parson. I just looked up the injury. That was my bad earlier talking about the injury that he have.

He definitely can't go out there and play. Yeah, isn't it? It's an L4, L5 facet spraying. And it's in the lower lumbart region of the spy. Yeah. It can cause pain and irritation. So, yeah. Yeah, all down, pause your leg and all that.

Hope he's good. And then Arabia, just so we are clear. He said the commander, are his East Coast team. Let's remember that. I just, you know in this. Come next time I'm here on this shelf, I'm going to have it framed, Mace in that Redskins

Uh, the picture. Yeah. Yeah. Put it right over here behind the D.C. flag. See, Cam, I had the Redskins on. Back in the days. Mace, I had a Redskins phone like this. This was the phone when you had to pick it up. Like, this was the

the shit. You don't even know. who art monk is do you know John Riggins is Arabia do you know John Riggins is art monk art monk John Riggins Joe Thaisman back Joe get yeah yeah they're in the ring of honor for sure don't tell them everything we know don't tell them everything I cried when they lost to the Raiders in the Super Bowl murder I'm just trying to tell you I was I was that type of rescuing thing I didn't even know they was in a ring of honor because I was out there with whatever I'm not saying out there.

I was too young, but that was my team, my nigga. That's what I'm trying to tell you, man. After, you know, Joe Thaisman got hurt and John Reagan's got older, I just curved, man. I couldn't deal with it no more. You talk about okay. Y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. Arabia, it was a pleasure to have you.

Good seeing you. Thanks for coming back, man. We missed you. Of course. Thank you for having me. I miss you guys, too. Of course. Thank you all for watching.

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