IT IS WHAT IT IS - EPISODE 15 #ITISWHATITISTALK

Episode Date: May 18, 2023

SIT DOWN WITH SPECIAL GUEST LENNY COOKE...

I said it's only one. Oh, he ain't got it. He ain't got it. We done heard his time. Welcome back to It Is What It Is. I'm Treasure Wilson, a.k.a. Stat Baby, along with your hosts Cam and Mace. And we have a special guest. So today we have Lenny Cook. Cook grew up in Brooklyn and quickly became the number one player in his class. During his senior year of high school, he played eight games and averaged 31.5 points and 15 rebounds per game cook ranked higher than players like lebron james and carmelo anthony he also won mvp of the abcd camp in 2000. he decided to bypass college and declared for the

nba draft after catching the attention of many people however cook, Cook was not selected by any NBA team. He then became a free agent. Welcome Lenny. Thank you. What's up, baby? What's up? It's good, boy. It feels good. Good, man. I'm happy you made it, man.

Thank you, man. I appreciate y'all. I'm happy you made it, man. For real, man. Before we start, what do you desire to be called, Lenny or Leonard? Nowadays, bro, it don't even matter, man. It don't even matter. You know what I'm saying? As long as the presence is felt and the kids understand who I am, I'm cool. Alright.

So I have some questions I wanted to start with just to make it so everybody understands. What's your parents' name? My mom's name is Alfreda Hendrix. My dad's name is Alfreda Hendricks. My dad's name is Vernon Hendricks. My mom is Alfreda Denise Cook, but she married my dad, who was Vernon Hendricks. They in Virginia, Emporia, Virginia. Alright. Did you grow up with them? Yes. Alright. Another question, when you were in middle school, what did you think you would be? I didn't know.

Rob Markman, You didn't know. I had no idea, especially when it came to basketball. I grew up in a lame city. I was born and raised in a lame city, you know what I'm saying? I went to Westside Complex. No basketball, no nothing at that time. Rob Markman, So your family didn't care about sports pretty much at all at all wow that's interesting what you think killer so what i wanted to ask you was

she just mentioned it you played eight high school games my senior year oh my senior year my senior how did you end up getting to new jersey to play basketball how did that happen so once again like we was in a land city right my dad was a big dope boy you know what i mean uh in the land city he used to run with you know what's crazy not cut you off mom family's from atlantic city too my mom that's crazy yeah so my dad was a big drug dealer in the land city you know what i mean and my mom didn't want to live like that no more so we ended up moving from a land city to new york to queens right and what age is this about this is like my seventh grade year six seventh grade you know what i mean going into my grade gotcha because i

ended up going to i uh is 59 right yeah and i played with daryl Showtime Hill, High Flying Ryan Williams. Right. You know what I'm saying? So we ended up out there. And then when we left Queens, we ended up moving to Bushwick. Okay. In Brooklyn. Right.

And that's when I went to Franklin K. Lane. Right. And that's when basketball became something. Got you. Got you. You know what I'm saying? But how'd you end up back in Jersey? After all, after. Yeah, so well maxine is you know just picking up from you know when we met kind of because i knew i knew lenny was when he was number one player and everything else i was wondering you have a you

have a family mother father friends whatever how'd you end up with debbie debbie debbie in new jersey and playing basketball for that time that's when i moved to bushwood okay i'm saying i was uh me my best friend damani did and we was all in the park playing around just playing you know what i mean the guy jeff farley he saw just playing right and god bless his soul mr Green was running the program, the Long Island Panthers. He was the coach at that time. You get what I'm saying? So Jeff was like, my son played for this AAU team called the Long Island Panthers.

Do y'all want to come? Yeah. So I'm like, yeah, I'll come. But you got to make sure all of them is good too. So he brought all of them damani and everybody you know i mean everybody that make that team gotcha you know what i'm saying so debbie was close with mr green like they they was like best friends sort of kind of you know what i mean and her son played on that team as well you know what i mean and And so Mr. Green, the first tryout I ever had with Mr. Green,

he said nobody's in this gym good enough to make my team because he coached Shemika Hossklaw, Lamar Odom. He coached some nice ones. He coached some greats. So I'm like, eh, how you going to say that when you ain't never even seen me play? Like, I'm saying this in front of all the kids. Like, ain't nobody in here on my level anyway. So you was always outspoken.

No, I'm very outspoken. Very. Especially when I know I'm right. You get what I'm saying? So I was at Franklin K. Lane at that time. And where's Franklin K Lane? In Queens. Okay, gotcha. The high school was in Queens, but me playing with the Long Island Panthers ended up getting me a scholarship to play at high school at LaSalle Academy. Okay. You get what I'm saying? So once I got to LaSalle Academy, Brian, which is Debbie's son, they worked that out where if I go, he goes.

Gotcha. So then my parents was ready to leave New York and go back to Virginia. And I didn't want to leave to go to Virginia. Okay, gotcha. You know what I'm saying? So my mom allowed me to stay with Debbie, and that's how I ended up with Debbie. Did that relationship ever turn sexual?

That thing ain't never became sexual. Okay. Now, with the daughter and stuff, you know what I mean? You fought that daughter? Yes. Oh, for sure. All right. We'll talk about it.

Yeah, no. I was asking because, you know, I see your documents and the way she's looking at you. And that's some people's dream to fuck a little strong high school nigga that may be getting ready to go pro. So I had to ask that. I mean, you know. You've been around. I know you damn well know.

I know, nigga. I was just saying to myself, but you explained that well. So basically, your parents granted you to stay with her and not go all the way back to Virginia so you could stay at least close to New York. Yeah, it was because, like, where my parents is from, well, my mom is from Virginia. My dad is from Georgia. But where my mom is from in Virginia, I would have never had that light on me down there. You get what I'm saying?

When it came to basketball. So I begged her to like, yo, let me, my dad didn't want me to do it. Right. No, I get it. We was just trying to figure out like, how did you get there? How did you get to that place?

Because that was never explained. So we was just wondering about that. No, for sure. Yep. You have any questions? Yeah. So you did touch a little bit on your dating life, but can you kind of go a little bit more into that?

Like how was that growing up? And especially everybody knowing you were a top prospect, like were girls in the way trying to get in your business and anybody trying to take credit for anything that you did that you- Nah, I was just fucking. You know what I'm saying? I was running with the crew. Like Cam been around me, you know what I mean?

I was around the bros, you know what I'm saying? Gavin, all them, they had me outside at a young age. and with the crew. Like, Cam been around me. You know what I mean? I was around the bros. You know what I'm saying? Gavin, all of them, they had me outside at a young age. But it came from me playing basketball and not understanding

the politics of it as well. You know what I mean? I didn't know everybody was watching me at the same time. I'm just partying. I never expected to be around a Camron

or a Jim Jones or nobody. You get what I'm saying? And that shit just happened overnight. I bust Lenny ass one day in 21. That's not a lot. That's a lot.

A butter 10 bucks for that. Go ahead, Mase, get your question. Lenny in Cam beat you? Never. It was 21 and he got the lowest. Ain't nothing wrong with that. That's crazy. And he was number one at the time.

I was like, I still got it. I said the muscle must be And he was number one at the time. I was like, I still got it. So this was at his height. He was number one. Because I never met him. Yeah. A-Butter said I'm with the number one. I know I was kind of out the loop. What was that?

What was that? In my block, 139th and Lennox Avenue. I never played in Harlem. That's a lie. Unless it was 55th. Let's talk about it. A-Butter. What's up, Monday?

We're on set live right now with Lenny. He said he never played 21 with me in his life. Did we play 21 or not? He don't remember playing the NBA. Did he win? No, that's the question. You just said we never played. That's the question.

You didn't win either. Then he win. You just said we never played. No, you said you beat me. didn't win either. Then he went. You just said we never played. No, you said you beat me. No, I said we played 20 times. No, no, no. I had more than you. I said I had more than you.

You said you never played at all. No, I said I bust your ass. I said I bust your ass. You said you never bust my ass. I said, hey, brother won. Hey, brother, hang up that phone, bro. Yeah, nigga, don't want to. We'll talk about it tomorrow.

Nobody want to talk that real shit. I'm a threat. Mario Chalmers, wash your fucking mouth, nigga. Watch your mouth. All right, bud, I ain't you back. Now we had a good time though, man. You said you never played at all. I don't remember bullshit.

You don't remember that? I don't remember bullshit games. I'm somebody, all right? I'm the top of the world, niggas forgot it. Number one high school player in the world, my nigga. I didn't win the game either, though, at the time.

Everybody was still better than me at the time, man. So what role did DJ Clue play in your life? Because you used to be with DJ Clue a lot. I'm still with him. That's my man, too. I'm still with him. That's what's up, man. DJ Clue plays a major role in my life from then till now.

Right. You get what I'm saying? Right. And it's nothing that nobody can say or do in front of me with him. Right. Like, he was that father figure that I needed back then.

Right. But he never tried to control what I was doing. You get what I'm saying? As much power as he had over me, don't get it fucked up. When you say power over you, what do you mean? When I say that is speaking as a father, like no, don't do that. Don't do this.

Don't do that. He could have, but he never did. He never tried to. He allowed me to be myself and do what I wanted to do. You get what I'm saying? So did he allow you to do good things or bad things? Rob Markman Both.

Rob Markman Alright. Rob Markman Both. You know what I'm saying? And still to this day, to present day, he's that person that never turned his back on me. You know what I mean? I had a lot of people that was riding me poles. You get what I'm saying?

But this man never turned his back on me like right now. You get what I'm saying? We just spoke never turned his back on me, like right now. You get what I'm saying? We just spoke on the phone just now outside in the parking lot. You get what I'm saying? He's one that never, ever shitted on me. Rob Markman And being that you said that, talking about Clu, shout out to Clu. Rob Markman Doesn't storm my niggas out there.

Shout out to whole Queens. Being that you said that, when I watch a documentary, there's a point of your documentary where you was like, I never did this shit for me. I was doing it for y'all. I didn't give a fuck. I didn't care what about. I was doing it for you.

Talking to your childhood friends, meaning that you didn't really care about basketball. I'm just trying to comprehend what you were saying. You ain't give a fuck about basketball. You was just saying, I was good at it, and I was trying to get us all out of here. So did you love the game, or would you love the game for what it could bring to you outside of at that time i just loved the game because what it gave me right you know what i'm saying for me

my friends and my family right you're doing that at that time i didn't know the business right now this is a business at the end of the day. And I just wanted what was for the moment. So what I'm saying, I guess what I'm asking you is this. Basketball had a lot of opportunity for you. If it was something else that could bring the same money as basketball at that time, would you have done something else just because you were saying, I need financial stability for me and my family? I probably would have.

Yeah. I probably would have. That makes sense. I probably would have. Yeah, I probably would have. That makes sense. Yeah. So then what would you say outside of basketball? What would your dream life had looked like? I don't think I had one. You know, not that not not at that time and not not at 14, 15, 16 years old. I didn't know because we were just roaming around.

We were just roaming the streets. You know what I'm saying? We didn't say, oh, I want to be an architect. We didn't want to say, you know. We didn't say those things. We were just going to high school and whatever happens, happens. Right. So if that night you was on draft night, right,

if they would have called your name on that night, what would that night have was on draft night, right? If they would have called your name on that night, what would that night have looked like for Lenny Cook? New York would have been crazy. It would have been like the Knicks won the championship. Right. You hear me? Because I'd have had the Stars out. I'd have had Cam with me. I'd have had Jim Jones.

I'd have had Clue. I'd have had Thad. You see what I'm saying? It would have been crazy because it would have been at the Garden. My draft class was at the Garden., I'd have had that. You see what I'm saying? It would have been crazy because it was at the Garden. My draft class was at the Garden. So it would have been ugly. Yeah. I always wanted to know that because when I was looking at you on the couch and things like that, I was thinking, who's the first person you call?

Clue. Clue is the first person you call? He's the first person that called me when I didn't get drafted? Wow. That's good. Who's the first one get a house? My mom was the first one get a car. My mom.

All right. So look, in 2000, you was the MVP at the ABCD camp. Right. Come on. Come with the shit. I'm just telling you. You want me to get crazy on. Come with the shit. Rob Markman, Jr.: Nah, I'm just telling you what's up. Come on with the shit.

Rob Markman, Jr.: You want me to get crazy? Come with the shit. Rob Markman, Jr.: All right, fuck it. Come on with the shit. Rob Markman, Jr.: Nah, I'm not trying to be a journalist or shit. Come on. Come on. Don't be that.

Rob Markman, Jr.: You the MVP, and I ain't on no shit. I just want to know real shit. Yeah, real shit. Rob Markman, Jr.: Like how you feel, because we never really got to rap about it. You the MVP at the ABCD camp. 2000. So you go back 2001, LeB carmelo's there i don't know who else is there my god raymond uh raymond chris bosh everybody everybody that's hall of

famers right yeah d-way when you walk in 2001 you are ready to envy me so i got my son with me so it was good mommy right now so so. I know that diddy bop. What the fuck is going on in here? You know this is my house. When you get there, because we only seen the documentary in bits and pieces, we didn't get to really see the whole game and so on and so forth. What are you thinking when you get in 2001 and you hear LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony and all these people before you even start playing.

Well, I knew Carmelo Anthony. Okay. I knew Amari Stoudamare. Gotcha. I knew Raymond Felton. I knew Chris Bosh. Right. Never heard of this kid from the acting.

Right. I played Carmelo my last game the night before. How much you gave him? I finished with like 27, 28. Killed me. That's a nice night. Yeah, for the people that don't know, we just letting them know. That's a nice night.

Real good night. Yeah, real good night. I leave. I'm supposed to stay with the kids and the players. Right. I leave. I'm not playing in Hollywood that night. I'm chilling.

Where's the camp at? Philly Dickinson. Philly Dickinson University. Okay, in Jersey. Jersey. So you leave Jersey. Just so for the fans that don't know, when you say you Philly Dickinson University. In Jersey. In Jersey. So you leave Jersey. Just so for the fans that don't know when you say you leave, you leave Jersey to go

to Planet Hollywood in New York. That night with my friends. Right. To party. Where's Planet Hollywood? At the time that was the old... It's in New York. It's in New York.

Yeah, it's in New York. Oh, so you leave there and go to the city. Good, yeah. So I go to the club that night. I'm chilling. Yeah. Everybody's talking about, you got a big game tomorrow. You got a big game in the morning. Nine o'. So I go to the club that night. I'm chilling. Yeah. Everybody's talking about, you got a big game tomorrow.

You got a big game in the morning, 9 o'clock. I ought to play against this kid. Right. Yeah. All right, well, I'll see him when I get there. Right. Add him to the list. Yeah.

I know what you're thinking. Now, let me ask you about this game. How much, because my thing is this. Just watching the highlights and so on and so forth. Yeah. I don't know how the camp went and everything, but if he doesn't make that buzzer beater, does he become number one that year? It's impossible for him to do that.

And exclude that. Mind you, if my teammate would have hit the two free throws before that, whether he hit that shot or not, we would have won. How would that have panned out? I would never know. Right. But you would have remained number one. You think because his team won that game and he hit that shot,

that's why they placed him above him? For sure. Sonny Vaccaro made sure of that. Got you. So how much did you have that game and how much did he have? I think I had like 11. I ain't had no great game. Like I said, I came from. So what you're saying is you played LeBron drunk and high and tired.

And shitted on him in the first half. Yeah. Yeah. With 11. With 11. Right. I'm cool with 11 in the first half. On a drunk night.

On a drunk night. Right. Talk about it. Yeah. That's great. No, but that's what I'm saying. People don't know that. And people don't know that.

See, that's why I said explain where the camp is and New York is, because I would have probably did the same shit. If I could go to New York real quick, and then nobody know I could get back to Jersey without nobody knowing. Knowing. Then fuck it. I'm going to do it. There's no social media.

I didn't have none of that. No, none of us did. So that's what I'm saying. It isn't like somebody could have took a picture of you and been like, oh, Lenny Cook's here or whatever. You could sneak in and out and get back to camp. But we didn't know none of that. That's why I'm asking you the questions. So when I looked at it, they had you ranked number one.

You lost that game. You went to number three. Who did they put number two? Yeah, I think Amari Stoudemire had number two. Okay, got you. Wow. I thought it was Carmelo. No, I think they had Amari Stoudemire at number two.

Do you think that Sonny was on some bullshit for doing that? I'm not going to say he was on bullshit. I just feel like he went with the right decision for him. You get what I'm saying? Like, it was a business move. But he lost. Why do you say for him?

Because it was a business. He did the Jordan deal. Yes. If people don't know that, he did that. That movie actually just came out. Yes. But I knew that prior. Like, we knew that prior.

Right. I'm just saying for our audience. Right. So, he's a businessman. He's about marketing. I wasn't marketable, clearly. You know what I'm saying? Because of my decisions.

Right. I don't blame nobody but myself for my decisions. At the end of the day, even when I was going to different teams, you know what I mean, for workouts or whatever, it was just about marketing. And people didn't want to take a chance on somebody that wasn't reliable. Right. At 17, 18, 19 years old.

I've seen you. You was an arrogant motherfucker, man. And I got it. years old. I've seen shit. I've seen it. You was an arrogant motherfucker, man. And I got it from a person like a Cam. I got it from a person like a Cam. I said, I got it. I ran the motherfucker. I just told him earlier today, I ain't going to even name the network.

I said, be ready in 30 minutes, or I'm not free again until October. And it's an amazing network. Wow. Exactly. So I dig it. I dig the Diddy box. But I dig the Diddy box. I dig the Diddy box.

I dig the Diddy box. I dig the Diddy box. I dig the Diddy box. I dig the Diddy box. I dig the Diddy box. I dig the Diddy box. I dig the Diddy box. I dig the Diddy box. I dig, be ready in 30 minutes while I'm not free again until October. I dig it. I dig the Diddy box. I got it at an early age. These kids, they got it

after they became millionaires. I had this motherfucking arrogance in me when I was 16, 17, 18 years old. And Cam gave it to you. A little bit. You gave me a little bit too. You don't know. You was an influencer as well. So don't say that you said it to Generation 5.

But I'm just saying, like, they got it later. Like, I was playing G4s and G5s at an early age. Y'all got it. Y'all was doing it when y'all was millionaires. Yeah. Right. So we was watching. You made itall was millionaires. Yeah, right so We was watching you made it to the summer league that year 2003. Mm-hmm

You're both the Boston Celtics. Mm-hmm. You play all the games Before Cleveland all the games after Cleveland. No Cleveland was the last game Oh, so you play all the games leading up to Cleveland. Leading up to Cleveland. Why didn't they put you in? I would never know the answer to that. What do you think? I just feel like it had something to do with the chosen one. You get what I'm saying? Sonny Vaccaro, he wasn't signed with Nike yet.

You get what I'm saying? Sonny Vaccaro, that deal wasn't done. Right. Sonny Vaccaro and all of those guys had something to do with it. Right. There's no way. I averaged 24 in summer league, bro. Right.

So before you played that game against LeBron, you were averaging 24 all the way up to that point. All the way up to that point in summer league, in ball show. He didn't play. And I didn't play. My shit said DNP on the sheet. Who was coaching you? It was an assistant from the Celtics at the time.

I can't remember his name. So I do have another question. So back to the camp, I'm sure you said you were arrogant. I'm sure a lot of people were giving you advice, telling you things. I know one of those people was Kobe Bryant. Did he ever give you advice that you did not listen to? No. Kobe

told me in that lecture he, leading up to what he said to me personally, God bless his soul, when he said, you know how if you in church and the reverend or the pastor say something, you know they talking directly to you? Murder. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? When he was saying all the partying

all the girls all the going out that ain't it when he was saying that to the he was saying that to the crowd you get what I'm saying but he was directly talking to me because these niggas

weren't doing that I was the only one doing that so fast forward when he told me to my face, I said, when you gonna play me? He said, I'm gonna play you in various ways and I'm gonna beat you in various ways

when you get to the league. That, I didn't understand that at that time. But 20 years later, I do. Because that's what I'm preaching to the kids now. What was he saying to you? Basically like, yo, mentally, you can't do nothing with me. You're not mentally ready for me. So ain't no need for me to even get out there with you.

So I see you when you make it, if you make it. Wow. That was deep. That was real deep. That's what he was telling me. So let me ask you this question, because I thought about this when I was watching the story. And I saw this. I saw, I remember LeBron walking down the corridor. He's going to play this game. He got this black suit on, looked like Tom Ford, some silk shirt, the pants.

look like Tom Ford, some silk shirt, the pants, just everything that just looked like, man, this is a GQ shoot. And I'm saying this to really add context to what I'm about to say. And he's going out there to become the number one scorer in the NBA. I watched it. When you're watching this...

I would not fall asleep until it happened. When you're watching this, what's going through your mind? Nothing. I just hope he do it. I would not fall asleep until it happened. When you're watching this, what's going through your mind? Nothing. I just hope he do it. And I hope he do it in a respectful fashion. And he did. You know what I mean? His kids was there.

His family was there. Jabbar was there. He went out in a dope manner. You get what I'm saying? But I got to witness that shit. When you say witness, though, what is the witness that you're speaking of? I watched it unfold. When I say I watched it unfold, I watched that kid become nobody to me,

to the greatest basketball player ever to me. Wow. Ever to you? Ever. Ever. He's the greatest basketball ever to me. You saying that shit because you played against me? I'm your motherfucking mom, man.

You better than motherfucking Michael Jordan, man. You're my damn mom, my nigga. You're my damn mom, Lenny, man. I forgot theron number two. Statistically, he's 4-2. I'm not going. What are you going off? I'm going off a nigga who says, you know what?

I'm too good for this league. I'm going to try baseball. Oh, it don't really work out in baseball. I'm going to come back over here and win three more championships in a row because I'm that good to come back and do that. With the same team. Matter of fact. With the same team. With the same team

that he had already. Listen to me with all of that bullshit. This is the attitude right here. This is exactly what the fuck we talking about. So what is it you think is harder to get? Statistically. Let me tell you another story. I transferred from

Old Japan High School to Demarest High School. Right? Your boy Stephen A. Smith can't stand him. You hear me? Can't stand him. He did the article on LeBron James. It ain't about how many rings you win or whatever.

They said this kid is going to be the greatest basketball player ever. This was before he even put a fucking NBA jersey on. He stood to that, bro. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm trying to understand what you're saying. You're saying this is Stephen A. Smith.

Every article, ESPN, everything, bro. That's marketing. What are you talking about? That's marketing. Okay. I know why you're saying this. You do? I do. That's marketing. What are you talking about? That's marketing. Okay, that's what I'm saying. Wait, wait, wait. I know why you're saying this.

You do. I do. I witnessed it. I know why you're saying you witnessed it. Why? I do good at therapy. I understand why you're doing it. Talk about it.

I need a little therapy. Yeah, you're saying that he's the greatest player ever because at one time you could say you're better than him. So that kind of puts you in that equation. Mike Barrett, Jr.: It don't. I mean, it do, but it don't. Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeah, yeah. I read that.

Mike Barrett, Jr.: But it don't. Because I mean, I always tell the bros, like yo, at the end of the day, you never heard nobody compared to Mike. You never heard nobody compared to coming out. Rob Markman, Jr.: They tried. Mike Barrett, Jr.: You know what I'm saying? Rob Markman, Jr.: They tried. Mike Barrett, Jr.: I can't. I'm not even going to sit here

and argue with you about it because... It's an argument. No, no, no. What I'm saying is I'm a LeBron fan. I don't want LeBron out here like, yo,

carry me with some bullshit. You don't talk to me. I'm fucking bored. I'm sorry. You know, I'm just a little older so I'm in the Michael Jordan category.

And I get it. He knows better. He knows better. He knows better. But listen,. Rob Markman, Jr.: But look, some of my friends, Michael Jordan fanatic, they always tell me I'm buggered. Yeah. No, no. I get it. Rob Markman, Jr.: Why is it a fanatic when you say Mike, like he ain't Mike?

No, bro. Everybody... I was a Mike fan, bro. Rob Markman, Jr.: All right. I'm still a Mike fan regardless. Rob Markman, Jr.: All right. But I say... And listen, man, because you know, you ain't been up here all day. I defend LeBron a lot. And I tell him murder.

I said, Michael Jordan is still number one. But every year, it's just getting harder to keep Mike number one because of what LeBron's doing. Mm-hmm. It's hard, bro. Year in and year out, man. This kid is different, man. 20 years.

And I get it. Everybody be like, Mike only played 15. I get it. I get it. Everybody be like, Mike only played 15. I get it. I get it. But at the end of the day, bro, them stats, they got to speak for something. So let me ask you something. Do you like Draymond Green? I love him.

Is his stats crazy? No. All right. So why are you talking about stats? I don't say great. I didn't say great. Draymond Green is the all-time got the most triple doubles in Golden State Warrior history.

That's a stat. I don't know. That's a stat. I'm just trying to tell you because you said that. I can say that great. That's not great. You spoke of stats. You said it ain't about ranges.

It's about stats. He got the most triple doubledouble in Golden State history. What in the world? But you act... So let me give you a point. What in the world? Listen, listen, nigga. Carmelo Anthony got two in his whole career.

Carmelo's a Hall of Famer, nigga. Carmelo Anthony is one of the best scorers that ever played the game. Don't damn play triple-doubles. What the fuck do you mean? You talking about, oh, that's in Golden State, not in the world. It's hard to get triple doubles, man. You can't tell me so much on my show. Get the fuck out of here. You don't jump on my fucking show.

You definitely don't jump on my fucking show. You don't ever tell me so much. You might have been super too much, man. You don't jump on my fucking show. You don't ever tell me so much on my show. You don't ever tell me so much on my show. I don't want you to ever think Holy, holy, holy, holy, holy. Holy, holy, holy, holy. I don't want you to ever think. Carmelo Anthony is probably one of the best scorers

that ever played a game. Absolutely, I agree with that. Who's the best? He was robbed of rookie of the year from LeBron. Who's the best? What? Who's the best scorer? Of all time?

Yes. Can you get to this shit? Yes. We just talked about him. Kobe. Kobe's a better scorer than Michael Jordan? Kobe. Yeah, we might got to get ready and end it early, man.

Let's get back to what we was talking about, man. Let's talk about it. Yo, stay away from him. Lightning is over there. Let's talk about it. Lightning is over there. Let's talk about it. Y'all got to come to reality.

You in your 40s. I just hit 40. You in your 50s. Y'all not 50. Nah, brother, we both in our 40s. You in your 50s. You in your 50s. I look younger than you.

Yeah, with your blush on, nigga. Yeah. With your blush on. You need some. I need some. You need some, nigga. You need some, nigga. LeBron put that shit on.

That's exactly why LeBron is Star Wars and all. He wear a Maybelline. Let me ask you a question though. Back to what we was talking about. So, like when you play street ball like Rutgers, Let me ask you a question though, back to what we was talking about. So, like, when you play street ball like Rucker and I don't know if you play Dykeman and everything else. Dykeman and all of that.

Was you getting paid to play games? I did. Did you ever play? So, I spoke to a couple of people. Did you get paid to play for one team in Rucker, play for somebody else and they got mad at you i did and they tried to chase you or something yeah so what happened with that situation i mean that situation it it went left because i was wrong okay gotcha you get what i'm saying right uh uh it's crazy that i that you brought that up no it's just random like you know because it's the truth right yeah it's the truth you brought that up. No, it's just random. No, it's the truth.

Right. It's the truth. There ain't no faking in it. Right. You get what I'm saying? And I seen my bro last year at the Knicks game, and we talked about it, and I told him to his face, I apologize because that was the first time I seen him since.

Right. And it was that. Gotcha. Now, somebody, we just talked about some of this shit coming up. It's the truth. Right. Let me ask you another question. If you had social media back then.

Boy, I'd be a millionaire still right now. So you're saying social media would have been way more beneficial for you if it was in 2000? When you can do NIL deals and all of that? No, no. So let's go before, because NIL just kind of came. I was kind of new. Let's say you had Instagram or Twitter or something like that

when you was in 12th grade, before the NIL. Just Instagram, Twitter, and social media. Where do you think you would be coming out of high school if you had those type of tools? I'd have had the most followers in the world. And why do you think that?

Because I bust ass. Pause. Then you'd be watching the show. I was about to say that was wild. think that because I bust ass pause. Then you want to say that was crazy. What I do without not for real. But what I will say not the country. Well, I will say is this you have a great personality and if

you're good at basketball and you make that all coincide, I think it would have been beneficial for you. But it could have hurt me too. I'm about to tell you it could, I think it would have been beneficial for you. But it could have hurt me too. I was about to tell you. I said it could have been beneficial. I think it would have hurt you more, personally, because of your attitude at the time, of your arrogance. And like you said, we all want the fucking arrogance.

But, you know, we looking at this shit, it was like, even when I was watching you talk to Gavin, you was like, I don't need no fucking ID to get on a plane. That was crazy. I meant that. We, you was like, I don't need no fucking ID to get on a plane. That was crazy. I meant that. We see you meant it. I meant that. We was like, yo, what the fuck is he talking about?

Gavin was confused. Yeah, because he thought he was fine private. Yeah, like, what are you talking about? So I would say, just my opinion, I'm like, social media, like, for instance, think about your man Mikey Williams. Yeah, I like Mikey. Yeah, I'm new on high school. Mason's kind of schooling me to all the high school games

players and shit. But it's like sometimes they try to keep up with the rappers or what's going on. Even John Marines, the pro. So sometimes it hurts you. And I think that you would have been doing too much on Instagram. I agree. I agree with you on that.

But at the same time, if I had that following, that big following like that, bro, like, I'm at 9,000. You get what I'm saying? I just got a blue check. I didn't pay for it. My son called me like, Dad, you got a blue check.

I'm like, where? Yeah. But, like, I just got to 9,000 followers. But if I had Instagram back then, bro, my shit, I would have had, like, 10 million. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, that would have been good. But, like you said, it could have hurt me because of my attitude and my arrogance and my immaturity.

Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Right. So, I don't disagree with you. You would still have had that 10, though. I would have had that 10. Yeah, you would still have had that, though. I would still have that 10. Yeah, you would still have that 10. It was a question.

Mace thought of a question I wanted to ask you before Mace would possibly forget it. Excuse me. At the end of the documentary, older Lenny is talking to younger Lenny. That was crazy. Right. That was crazy. Forget it, Mace.

I'll let you ask the question because he thought of the question. That was crazy. I was thinking at the end of the documentary, you see you standing there and then you see the younger Lenny just leaning on a post and you're there talking to him and you could

see that they probably put you there. You wasn't there. That was really crazy. That was supposed to have been me talking to my son. You get what I'm saying? Wow. It was supposed to, that scene was supposed to be me talking to my son as a younger Lenny.

You get what I'm saying? They did a green screen with me doing that. You get what I'm saying? Got you. But when I did that, it kind of touched me a little bit because I got to see myself talking to myself. Rob Markman That's what it did to me watching. That's what I'm saying.

That's true. Rob Markman It was like more so, I'd rather have been my son so he can know for sure, like, you can't do what I've done. I don't want that for you. You get what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, me saying it to the younger Lenny makes it look like I'm talking to the kids more so. You get what I'm saying?

Whereas, though, like, I don't care how talented you are, I can be here today and go on tomorrow. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Right. Let me ask you something even included with that. When you're standing over there and everybody is over there working out, why are you over here?

Because I'm that much better than you. I don't have to work out. I'm going to go get mine. So the coach never told you to stand over there? They can't. Not at that time. Not during that time. But if I could do it all over, I'd be doing push-ups.

Yeah. So I gotta ask, what's your biggest regret? I don't have none. I have no regrets because I never expected none of this to happen. Not even this show. You get what I'm saying? But I would definitely do shit different,

but I have no regrets. Cause I would've never met Mies. I'd have never met Cam. I'd have never met Clu. I would've never met me. I'd have never met Cam. I'd have never met Clue. I would have never met Fab. I'd have never met Gavin. I'd have never had these kids that I have. So I have no regrets on none of the shit that I've done, but I would definitely do shit different.

Okay. So when you, and the more I hear you speak, the more I have even more and more questions because I'm looking at your life, like, And the more I hear you speak, the more I have even more and more questions because I'm looking at your life like from a fan perspective, looking at it, looking at your life just unravel in front of the world on that camera. And what's coming to me is that each step of the way, you were that successful and it wasn't even something you wanted to do.

I never expected it. I never expected it. I never expected it. So I was just playing. This came from him. This thing, I didn't put the work in. It ain't like I put the work in on a day-to-day basis. This is a gift that I was given. So do you think that's why it was easier to let it go, because it wasn't something you worked for?

I let it go for a long time after it was easier to let it go because it wasn't something you worked for? I didn't want to let it go for a long time after it was done. So at what point would you say, right here I realize, because this is the real question I wanted to ask. I waited all night to ask this question. At what point did you know that, right here, I'm not going to make it?

After my car accident. See, a lot of people don't know about my car accident. I was in a car accident in California playing in the ABA. What year is that? 2004, I believe. Yeah. I was in a bad car accident after my first game. Tiny Archibald was my coach.

I played in the ABA. Had a killer game. Tiny Archibald got a call after the game for me to get a 10-day contract to the Portland Trail Blazers. Wow. We go to the dinner. We go to a team dinner. I leave the dinner.

I get in a car accident. I get in a car accident, which left me dead on arrival. They wanted to amputate my leg. I was in a coma for nine days. Bounced back from all of that shit, went to play in Kuwait. Rob Markman, Yeah. Stavis Lutke, Overweight, out of shape, everything. That was the first time I ever been cut from a team in my life.

Rob Markman, So it was there? Stavis Lutke, I said it was over. Rob Markman, So right there in Kuwait, you realized, I'm not going to them again. Stavis Lutke, It's over. It's over. Rob Markman, Stav baby brought that up about you. Stavis Lutke, Yeah. Rob Markman, She definitely brought that up. Stavis Lutke, I did. Rob Markman, It's over. Stab Baby brought that up about you. Yeah. She definitely brought that up.

I did. It's over. Yeah. Yeah, because I didn't even know that part. A lot of people don't know. It's not in my documentary. A lot of people don't know nothing about that car accident. You get what I'm saying?

She definitely, Stab Baby definitely brought that up. So touching on that. So after the car accident and then when you were recovering, you still played on other. I played. I went to Kuwait when I after my job in the wheelchair for two and a half years after that I bounced back went to Kuwait they sent me home I never been sent home from nowhere bro came back then I started bouncing around ABA, USBL, all that shit in the states.

Okay so when after you you know bounced back and started playing were you playing because you loved the game or do you feel like you had to improve? Nah I was just getting calls because the dude that was representing me was getting calls but then I was like I'm done I don't want to play basketball didn't want to see basketball none of that that shit. I wasn't involved with nothing. Speaker 1, Speaker 2, Speaker 3, Speaker 4, Speaker 5, Speaker 6, Speaker 7, Speaker 8, Speaker 9, Speaker 10, Speaker 11, Speaker 12, Speaker 13, Speaker 14, Speaker 14, Speaker 15, Speaker 16, Speaker 17, Speaker 18, Speaker 19, Speaker 20, Speaker 21, Speaker 21, Speaker 22, Speaker 22, Speaker 23, Speaker 24, Speaker 24, Speaker 25, Speaker 26, Speaker 27, Speaker

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Hell yeah. I was in depression, became an alcoholic, a sex addict. Yes, for sure. Where did that start? Once I was in that car accident. So you wasn't drinking before the car accident? I was drinking, but not like heavy, like I became an alcoholic. It's a difference. I was a drinker, but I became an alcoholic because of my depression and what I was going through with me.

It ain't nothing to do with nobody else. Yes. So let me ask this, because this goes along with what you're saying. When you say you started drinking and all of those things, right? If you could look back to you at around, let's say, 7 to like 12 years old, what are you doing? I don't know. You don't remember?

I was just being a kid. I was a kid because I was at home with my parents. I was just a kid running around the neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? It had nothing to do with basketball or nothing at that time for me in my life. That's what your dad and your mom. And my mom. My mom and my dad been married.

I just turned 41 Saturday. They said you was 40. Bitch. I just turned 41 Saturday. He was 29. They said you was 40. Bitch. I just turned 41 Saturday. He was 29. Just turned 40. I just turned 41 Saturday. You're trying to act like you're so much younger than niggas.

You just said you turned 40. He did. And you got busted. Let me tell you something. Hold on. You turned 41. Let me tell you something. That's the story, bro.

I'm still closer than 40 than you, nigga. And I would have more points than you when you were the number one player in high school, bro. Stop it. I don't think you capping on purpose. I don't know. It's causing you to cap. You said you never played football.

It ain't what it is. You didn't know what it is. Oh. You guys got any other questions? Yo, what do you got going on now? What do you got going on these days? Like I said, my birthday was Saturday. I'd be belated, man. I'd be belated.

How old did you turn? 41. 41. You're 41. 41. 41. 41, man. Happy belated. How old did you turn? 41. 41. You're 41. 41. 41. 41, man. But no, I just had my fifth annual Lenny Cook Shoot,

Hoops Not Guns event in the Bronx in Bronx River Community Center. Duh. Yeah. I just love doing motivational speaking with these kids. I love training kids. You did something with Allen Iverson, too? I was just coaching at the Allen Ivinson All-American game with Steven

Jackson. They just honored me with the purpose award and that shit touched me so much pause. That was crazy. It's just like this is what I do man when it comes to these kids bro like I don't want these kids that had to go through what I went through and make the same mistakes that I made, bro, at the end of the day. You know what I mean? Because it's a lot

of, it's a lot of Lenny Cook stories, but people who scared to share their story. You can't be scared to share your story, bro, because you can, you never know who you can help, bro. Whether you at the top or the bottom poles. But like you got to you got to share your story, bro.

And I'm just blessed with the opportunity to share mine on. It is what it is and whatever ever whatever else platform I can share it on. Bro. Yeah. I just want to get my book done. I'm trying to get my book done, which I know is going to be a New York Times bestseller when it come out. You know what I mean? my book done, I'm trying to get my book done, which I know is going to be a New York Times bestseller when it come out. You know what I mean?

Right. That's all I want, bro. So I got to ask, when you see kids, since you're talking to kids like John Moran, Mikey Williams getting in trouble with the media and stuff, what do you think about those situations and then what advice would you give to them for- I mean, I can't give a millionaire advice that he's not gonna take it you know what I'm saying I can share I can share the information I've been there I understand you know what I'm saying I like that even before

that I go to my brother Sebastian Telfair did made a major mistake before these guys you go what I'm saying so it's like for me it's just basically you got to take heat you got to understand you can't talk to somebody if they don't want to listen you get what i'm saying do you think people without the same life and money can give you advice give me advice i mean just one of the athletes. Yes. Yes. Yes, for sure. It's up to you to listen. Yeah. And that's what I'm doing now. I listen. I've learned to listen because I didn't listen back then. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? So I understand. I know what it takes now. You get what I'm saying? So for me to speak and get honored Friday night with the Purpose Award and then Steven Jackson, I'm not even looking in the crowd when I'm being honored.

And Steven Jackson tells me to look up and there's 1,500 people screaming and clapping saying, Lenny, I did my purpose. You know what I'm saying? So that means a lot to me. That's dope. yeah yeah so that means a lot to me yeah I'm a firm believer of that people people even people make it because they were were very faithful or they were supposed to do it and then when people don't make it is because they either wasn't purpose to do it or they was extremely unfaithful. There's the only two reasons. I'm both. I'm here for a purpose.

And whether I made it or not to the NBA, that wasn't my calling. My calling is to make it. No, that's what I'm saying. Now that I'm hearing you speak, that's what I understand. When a person is not meant to do something, it wasn't going to go that way anyway.

It wasn't meant for me to be in the NBA. It wasn't. It wasn't. It do something, it wasn't going to go that way anyway. It wasn't meant for me to be in there yet. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't. Do you see players like, I mean, everybody's much older now, but like, you know, the first 10 years, let's say, of 2003 to 2013, was it hard to watch?

Like Mello, Chris Bonds, it was tough. Bro, let me tell you something. My daughter, she'll be 13 May 5th, right? my daughter used to go with me to the corner store bro and see the cooler with the the big sprite shit and be like dad that's LeBron right there you know how much that hurt me right that's that's LeBron right there right I had to get over that though right you know what I mean because at the end of the day it was never happen for me. Not saying that it couldn't have been me. Right. Yeah. Because I messed that up. You get what I'm saying? I think, no, I'm just saying with the reason I'm asking that because... It took me a long time to

come out that show. Right. And certain shit that I see and I be like, today, and I'm good, and I be like, man, fuck them niggas. I mean, I still see it sometimes in myself. Yeah, that's what I was asking. Because at the end of the day, like, nigga, you know. Right. And they ain't even going to put it out there like that, marketing-wise, but nigga, you know.

Talk about it. Let's get me on the barbershop. Huh? Yeah. LeBron should have you come to his camps and all of those things, because I think it will be a phenomenal thing. It's just like when people see two people together and you know the history of them and everything.

Rob Markman Let me tell you something. The way y'all got back together is the way me and LeBron should get back together since we're going to talk about it. You see what I'm saying? Rob Markman Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Everybody else, Melo always talk about me. Melo, I was just with Melo when they opened the Kip store in Williamsburg in Brooklyn.

Like these dudes, everybody else that was under us, they with us. They with me. They fuck with me. I ain't heard you do nothing bro. Who you talking about? His favorite player in the whole damn world. Yeah, the one that's better than your favorite player. I'm going to keep it 100.

You're about the only one in this room who think that money ain't nobody else in this room think that maybe treasure because she young I can guarantee you what's another one in here the nigga who came with you that's about it man I'm talking about me. This is going to go with. Things going on. That's why you got the number six. Yeah. Six friends. Word man.

But Joe, thank you so much for fucking coming up, bro. You know, you my brother. Anyway, my nigga, I appreciate you coming. It's a great interview, man. Now, we appreciate you. Listen, what we started to do originally is Joe Keem's coming up in a couple weeks.

I wanted to have you guys together. Maybe we'll invite you back down when he comes if you're available. I'm here. Let's put it together. I'll definitely be here with him because that's my bro. He speaks highly of you. He loves you. He's down here too. His schedule just wasn't permitting, but he fucks with

you. He loves you too, man. Yeah, nah, that's my bro. That's my little bro, for sure. And if people want to connect with you and get you to come to camps and motivational speaking, where do they get you at? You can hit me on Instagram, IamLennyCook. You can hit my email, Lenny375 at gmail.com.

Tell the people in this camera so that they know where to contact you at. I am Lenny Cook on Instagram. Lenny Cook on Facebook. Lenny375 is my Gmail. Thank you so much for being here, and thank you for sharing your story and being very positive about it. I'm proud of you, man. I'm really proud of you, man.

I appreciate y'all. Because you've taken situations that a lot of people wouldn't even speak about it, and then you've switched it around and made it positive and used it to uplift other people, which really dope. I appreciate y'all. Because you've taken situations that a lot of people wouldn't even speak about it, and then you've switched it around and made it positive and used it to uplift other people, which is dope. Appreciate it. Yeah, of course. Thank you for being here. And with that, we'll be right back. One eye.

One heart. One love. Excuse me. After last night's performance, we're gonna do this again? Yeah. Not tonight. I don't think so. And make sure you close the door behind you. I'm Rico fucking strong.

I'm back. I'm back. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, no. Muchacho, levántate. Toma esto. Bébetelo. Why not? Well, well, cuña. Okay. Well. right now right now yeah welcome back okay so we do still have our special guest here because we have a couple Welcome back.

Okay, so we do still have our special guest here because we have a couple questions left. Let me ask you this. Because, like I said, I'm LeBron. That's a safe way. I got LeBron number two all time on my list. For sure. Do you think he's the best player in the NBA today?

No. Where do you rank him in the NBA today? Number two. Who's number one? The light-skinned go. I got, nah, I got a staff. Yeah, see, you knew who I was talking about. Yeah, because you said light-skinned.

Okay, who you got? No, no, no, no, no. I got to go with Embiid, bro. I got to. So you say Embiid, then LeBron? I got to go with Embiid, bro. I got to. So you say Embiid, then LeBron? I got to go. I may put LeBron three this year. Okay.

You're being very indecisive. No, I'm not. Who's two if he's three? I'm being honest. I'm asking you. Give me your top four players this year in the NBA. In order. In order?

In order. You said you don't have a LeBron. All right, so I'm going to order. don't have a question real quick if everybody's healthy right now and just say I know it's the players I'm saying if everybody's healthy because you know Kawhi everybody yeah your top five players in order this year I'm going to be Jokic, Jokic, John Morant, LeBron, and I could put anybody five. So leave out the Greek freak and Kevin Durant? Oh, yeah, right now.

Kevin Durant don't count right now. He's hurt too long. Yo, listen, we don't do this. You said this year. No, I'm talking about if everybody's healthy, just period. If everybody's healthy, man, I'm going LeBron number one. Number one? You got your motherfucking mom.

And then I'm going KB number two. Yo, he's wildin'. How much you was drinking when you was drinking? When you was drinking, how much you was drinking? I ain't drinking none of that. When you was drinking, you keep doing this shit. Yo, how much was you drinking back when you was drinking, my nigga? And with that, with that, very, very, very bold take.

Nah, but listen, very, very, very bold take. Nah, man. Listen, I don't trust Boston. I'm going to give you my picks, man. Listen, I'm not going to. Yeah, nah. Nah, Tatum is sick. Give us your five minutes. No, I'm just, I'm going to go over this and make a pick for you.

I'm saying who you think going to come out the East and West. I'm going to just go with. I was with Milwaukee. I'm really indecisive on the East, man. You was i know it's over i'm i'm brainstorming right now right now playoffs i know i'm thinking i don't like the whole east i just hate the east the whole east because golden state is my pick until they lose how do you hate the easy you phone no i love the east living in the east first of all my team is the Globetrotters. We never lose.

Fuck is you talking about? I knew because y'all play the niggas in the green jersey. Because they don't want to play us, nigga. Because y'all play the niggas in the green jersey. All this shit I was doing and you in the park, nigga. This shit right here. Realistically, we go to the East, I'm going to have to go with, I would say right now Philly, and I don't go against Golden State

until Klay Thompson is not in the championship. He's been in six straight championships. Two years they didn't go, he didn't play. So I go with Golden State until Klay Thompson is not in the championship. So I have Golden State and Philadelphia at the moment. And then who's your final pick?

I got Golden State and Philly if Jimmy Butler doesn't come back. That's tough. Y'all hollering niggas is different. Yeah, you're right. Y'all niggas is different. Jamal Murray is really going crazy.

No, say it again because I'm going with the Lakers and Philly. You all shut down. Interesting takes. You know what's crazy? I like the Lakers a lot because Lakers was in the playing. And I like what LeBron is fucking doing at this age. I really like I said, LeBron, I'm only arguing just a motherfucking argue. I fuck with

you, my nigga. But at the end of the day, that would be amazing, but I just can't go against Golden State. KD, man, we got to get you out of Tucson quickly. Booker got to pass the fucking ball. Booker has to pass the basketball. Did you not watch the game last night?

I didn't have time. Booker have to pass the ball. I hope KD shows up, because I can't lie for him. KD can't show up if he don't put the ball in his hand. With that. With that. KD, we vote for these niggas, bug. Diggs, tell me the truth.

Sex shit, man. You know, we family, nigga. I don't got no KD slander. No, we're not slandering. We're just saying if we get out of control... So you have to, like, Chris Paul ain't get hurt

for the eight millionth time and the third quarter. Chris Paul is always hurt. All right, exactly. And it's always a problem. All state. All state. Hell, bless that.

Hell, bless that. All state. Well, interesting takes. Thanks for y'all's choices. Let us know what you guys think in the comments. And with that, that wraps this episode. We'll see you for the next one. Outro Music