IT IS WHAT IT IS - EPISODE 16 #ITISWHATITISTALK

Episode Date: June 6, 2023

CAUGHT CAM CAPPING ABOUT HIM TRUSTING KD...

I said it's only one. Oh, he ain't got it, he ain't got it. We done heard his tongue. Welcome back to It Is What It Is. I'm Treasure Wilson, a.k.a. Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Cam and Mace. What's good, boy? How you? You know how I'm doing. Hey, yo. You starting off good. How you doing?

How are you, man? You want to tread lightly today. You got it. You got it. I'm prepared today. You got it. Okay, so we have a lot to talk about. Yes, we do.

The Phoenix Suns lost to the Denver Nuggets in the Western Conference semifinals. The Suns have key players like KD, Devin Booker, Aiton, and CP3. What do you think they are missing? And what are your thoughts on the game? Can you read that over and put Booker's name first and then KD? Just one more time. Just open up with the Booker first. Look, the Suns have key players like Devin Booker, KD, Aiton, and CP3. So what are y'all's thoughts on the games?

And what do you think they are missing? You can't wait. You can't wait, man. You can't wait. Look, straight up and down, Aiton fucking quit. Aiton quit. They ain't going to even sugarcoat it. How the fuck your ribs hurt the day of the game?

Yeah. Secondly, your ribs wasn't broke. He's from Arizona. He wanted to stay there. So listen, I got some inside information. Yeah. It ain't really inside information. I was talking to somebody who's from Arizona in school with me.

He's from the Bahamas. I hope he's from Bahamas. I know he's from the island. Went to high school in Arizona. Went to college in Arizona. Got drafted by the Suns. They talk about about trading them he don't want to get traded like i know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna my trade value up and sit on the bench somebody mentioned that to me and i was like hmm that makes a lot of sense but he was getting bullied by the

joker me and murder went to the game yeah went to the 53 point game they lost denver lost but the way the joker was bullying niggas it aiden just fucking quit and for you to say that your ribs is hurting who's just playing with some fucking wiggins just had a whole broke rib and wiggins was playing with a broke rib so his ribs wasn't even broke aiden did that shit and then on top of that chris paul is never available we already know chris paul is never available this time of year we already called that out and the keeper to hunt it we over there we had to step we had the game murder over there looking at chris paul like chris don't want to look out where you look chris we with you but what i think you should do is come in in febru February so you could be ready for the playoffs because you potentially fucked up this run as well as Aiden.

That's what I got to say about it. Guys, man, that's all I'm saying about this shit. I think Joker was running through like a bouncer. You know, he was running through the lane like he was moving them like security, getting rebounds when he want, getting baskets when he want. I mean, he was playing like a little fat kid. Everybody know that little fat kid in the hood that can play, but he's too short?

Yeah. And he just grew to seven feet. That's what it was looking like. He wasn't even getting off the ground this much, and he was just getting bucket after bucket. And the way they were falling on the ground, I think I ain't getting my money's worth by going to the game. But, I mean, it was so crazy.

I don't know if Monty lost the game, if Aiden lost the game. Aiden really sold him out, too. Because I think he was trying to lower his stock, his trade value, so they couldn't move him around like Killer was saying. So I agree right there. It was just a travesty. I ain't going to hold you. We were just playing spades.

It's like one in a possible. I thought I had two books, but it was one in a possible. I ain't going to hold you, man. Denver, Boston too, but Denver is probably the most complete team. You know, I was talking to Mace about it. And you got to realize, Jamal Murray is practicing against Reggie Jackson. Reggie Jackson was just starting with the Clippers three, four months ago. He don't even get in the game.

Then you got the Joker practicing against DeAndre Jordan, a seven-foot athletic nigga. So, therefore, when he goes against other centers, this 6'9", 6'10", 6'11", he's already going to be able to shoot over you because he's practicing against a nigga 7'1", that's athletic. Their practice squad could be starters on different teams in the NBA. That's a good point.

Right. And that nigga Colwell Polk, he look like he on a motherfucking mission. Yeah. Did you see how your man just dumped it on him? Oh. Your man. It looked like they was going like this. It's my turn now.

I don't know. When they dunked on KD, it looked like the next dude was like, yo, you know the ball is my goal. You're gassing it. It's my goal. He finger rolled it on you. You're not ducking on me. You're gassing it now, man.

But I ain't going to hold you. That nigga Colwell Pope looked like he on a mission. That's going to be real interesting, him against the Lakers, because they got rid of him. But he looked like he's on a mission. Before we get out of here, before we get out of here. No, we still got more shit to talk about. I just jumped off real quick and talked about,

because we're talking about Denver. Yeah. And that's what I think about the whole situation. So y'all touched on it a little bit, but I mean, after seeing the Joker and Jamal Murray play, do you think that the Suns even had a chance to win? Or at that point, did it look like, okay, game's over, like they got it? I did not know Murray Pauls was that nice, for real.

I knew he was nice, but he was at the key looking like, why am I out here with these niggas? No, he was laughing at niggas. Murray was sitting there literally laughing at niggas like, yo. Playing a new balance. Yeah, like, yo like yo see you can't be a murderous course you can't really see these facial expressions when you watch the game but his face was like cameron payne he was like this like look at me he was like this getting the ball

like go through i got this thing exactly not. Murder not even capping a little bit. This nigga's face was like, and he was passing, laughing, and the nigga's like, you know how good it took you. Yeah. Like, his face was just, like, I thought he was from Harlem for two minutes. Yeah, I thought his layup package was like he was from the hood. Yo, it was crazy, man. He was going crazy out there.

But to answer the question, look, it boils down to this. The Suns won two games in that series. The two games they won, they won by about five, six, seven points, whatever. Booker had it in his 40s. KD had it in his 30s. Both games. If you're not getting 40 and 30 from either one of them, they wasn't going to win that series.

You can't end with KD with 20 and Devin Booker 25. That's not going to win against that team. So the game me and Myrtle went to was game four, where they won and they had a spectacular game. But when I seen game five, I was like, I don't know, because. Yeah, that's the game I didn't go to. No, you didn't go to game six. I'm talking about game five was in Denver. i watched it on tv and i was like because when because basically when denver

won there's one about 20 25 30. blowouts right exactly but when the suns win it's a magnet magnificent games for both of them they only was winning by a little so i don't know if they ever could have wanted to answer the question but if they was going when it was going to take late 30s and mid 40s from evil one of them booker Katie so if you wasn't getting that I didn't think they is going yeah I didn't think I didn't think they was gonna win that I saw that for that game I was like nah they outclassed sometime you just this nigga didn't come to game six you suck we went shit, man. We had tickets. We went to game four. They went to game five.

I got tickets for game six. This nigga talking about, I don't know, champ. Shit ain't looking good. Last game. Nigga got me out there doling. I gave you your money back. Yeah, man, but you still didn't show up, man. I'm like, yo, man, that's wild.

You didn't give me the money back for the tickets. After I saw how they played in game five, I was like, they might have a jet somewhere to go somewhere. They ain't here for this game. Dang. Whatever they're doing. Okay, so I got to ask, whose fault is it? Is it the players or is it the coach?

Because now we know that they fired the head coach, Monte Williams, after four seasons. Do you think that was a good move? Scapegoat. Scapegoat. That's what I heard. Scapegoat. As soon as you heard it, scapegoat scapegoat that's what i heard scapegoat as soon as you heard scapegoat that's a fact i i have to totally agree he has the best record as a coach since 2021 overall yeah nobody has a better record than them they went to the finals

they went to the west coast finals last year and his new ownership as well they got a new owner so who knows if he's on the same page with the owner. But at the end of the day, a lot of that shit is Aiden's fault. Him and Aiden ain't been getting along since last year. That shit carried over into this year. They're Aiden sitting out. They might not have talked with him. I don't know, Killer.

You're going to just say Aiden. I'm saying, I'm agreeing with you. It's a scapegoat. They got to blame somebody. But him and Aiden ain't been getting along Aiden ain't been getting along for a while. And this nigga Trey Values fucked up. I don't think they should have fired him. I think they should have got rid of Aiden before getting rid of Monte Williams.

But like you said, somebody has to take the blame for this. Yeah, I think they should have got rid of Aiden and Chris Paul and keep the coach. Chris Paul was basically when we was there, Chris Paul was coaching the game. When he was over there coaching talking to the rest I like this would be a tremendous coach definitely you might need

to transition in to play a coach okay I mean take the play out just take the play out and just be a coach yeah man because this is all aside, I think Chris Paul, we give Chris Paul a hard time up here at Ports, but I think he's a great player, but it's 10 years of consistently getting hurt in the playoffs, dating back to the Clippers, dating back to Houston, dating back to now the Suns. And I really believe,

I see him warming up game five on television, and I really believe he could have played game six, but he was like, nah, because if niggas lose, they gonna blame me. So we'll see where this goes. Yeah, I think he's messing his legacy up by staying too long. You got no one

to leave. He want to ring. He want to ring. You know, he had leave. He wanna ring. He wanna ring. He had posted, it's funny that, shout out to my man Dwight Howard and shit. He posted, if I don't wanna ring with KD, I'm going to play ball in China. Dwight Howard was like, what's up?

What's good, nigga? Come over. Steph got a ring over there. Maybe that's where he get his ring. Yeah, maybe so. That's maybe your best bet. Shanghai, baby. Shanghai. Okay, so where you get his ring. Yeah, maybe so. That's maybe your best bet. Shanghai, baby. Shanghai. Okay. So, overall, before we go to break, did

Katie's addition to the Suns live up to y'all's expectations? So, what I what I have to say is this, man. KD did a great job. He got hurt. When he got traded, he was already hurt. He got hurt before their first home game. They didn't have a lot of chemistry going in there. Chris Paul gets hurt. Fucking shit.

Cam, I'm not letting you go there today. I'm trying to see how long you're going to keep this going. Yo, I'm just trying to say something. All right, well, go ahead. No, don't go ahead. When he got there, he was hurt when he got traded. He played a few games. Then he got hurt again.

Chris Paul gets hurt in the playoffs. Aiton sits out. I don't know what else you want a nigga to do. I thought he was all right. That's all you saw? She asked, did it help or did it hurt? Oh, that was crazy. Hey, no, pause.

That was good. That was crazy. I'm going to keep you. No, listen, listen, listen. No, that was good. Hey, yo, Tom, can I say something to that? The nigga said his layout package is crazy. Nigga said his layout.

I let him say shit. I let it go. Nigga said his layout package got you. His layout package was great. I didn't say nothing. I tried to be professional. What's worse, his layout package? Which layout package is you talking about, man?

I let that slide. What did you just say? I don't even remember because I was saving layout packages. All right, let's be professional. Let's be professional. I was trying slide. What did you just say? I don't even remember because I was saving Lego packages. Let's be professional. Let's be professional. Did it help or did it hurt Paws? Should be fine. I think they got a

good future, man. I think they do. Yo, yo, Cam. What I need to know from you since I got to Cam, put the camera on Cam right now because I need to know from you since I got the camera put the camera on Cam right now because I need the camera on him because he knows I'm always right so I'm going to ask him something else so he can see this

do you trust Kevin Durant now I waited the whole week to fly in to ask you that that's my nigga that's my man That's my nigga. That's my man. That's your nigga? That's my man.

Let's go back to the tape. Camera on me. Let's go back to the tape where Cam says he do not bet against Kevin Durant. Let's roll that tape.

I'm going with Durant out of what? I'm going with Durant because he's been on the show. I may have been here yet but that's the whole thing. It's coming up. But at the end of the day I don't go against with Durant because he's been on the show. I'm going with Durant. All right? He ain't been here yet, but that's the whole thing. He's coming up.

All right. But at the end of the day, I don't go against Kevin Durant. But nobody. Right. That's just me. He dips that and all that. That's part of the family, man. Everyone, we're back.

The question still remains. Do you trust him? Do you trust him? That's my man. Do you trust him, though? Yeah, I trust the niggas, man. Hey, yo. Yee.

Get out of here, man. Dang it. Yeah. We had that planned for him. I'll pay all y'all niggas. See you later. We're going to get y'all niggas fired, man. Yeah, keep playing.

Y'all niggas going to, then we gonna get y'all niggas fired, man. Man, keep playing, dog. Then you gonna get this nigga fired, man. Stop playing, my nigga. Cap, Cap, Cap. Stop playing games with me, man. I'm gonna stop playing games with my nigga. Cap, anybody out there got something to say? Fuck that, he is.

Cap, it is. Cap or corn? Back to you. Y'all niggas keep listening to murder. Y'all niggas gonna get fired. He don't pay y'all niggas, man. Okay, stop lying, nigga. Stop.

What you about to say, stop, baby? It could be a little cap. A little cap. You know? Let us know what you think. We'll be right back. Four years and counting. Got you feeling like an option. Maybe I'm my own problem, babe. She's tired of hearing, I don't know. What's happening to me won't fall. Dealing with this thing called trust. But she really thinking about? She wanna be free.

Welcome back. Okay, so making headlines a lot lately again is John Morant. John Morant was suspended from team activities after a video of him flashing a gun on IG Live went viral. This was just two months after he was suspended for a similar video. What do y'all think about the situation? That nigga was flashing a gun again. You go. What I'll say is this is like before I start clowning because I'm more a clown but on some real shit like yo I was looking at a lot of this shit cuz leading up to it and I think it's the people not even think it's definitely the people around them and for instance it's not just his friends I think his family's involved also one of these incidents, right, his mother gets into an argument with somebody at finish line.

Yeah. She calls him. He goes up there with the crew to see what's happening. At finish line? Yeah, in the mall, so it's a finish line. He goes up there with the crew, but at the same time, if somebody's harassing your mother and she calls you you got to do like yo and you around you like yo and you were you like yo let's bust a move but

at the same time you got to know okay my son's worth this my i don't want to jeopardize it let me call one of his friends or call his let me call her husband there you his there you go yeah let me call my husband to see what's exactly to see what's going on so now when you got somebody harassing your mother and you run around memphis with the goons nigga like nigga let's go to the mall take care of this real quick next thing you see what his father do his father has not came out one time through everything he has going on negative and say, you know what, I'm going to have a talk with my son. I'm going to sit him down and tell him he's not. He don't say shit. He just worry about them sideline tickets, being next to Usher. They talk about they twinning, all this wild shit. I think that

the whole situation around John Moran is crazy. Friends included, but family included. Father, don't disrespect the mom dude. I don't disrespect nobody mom dude, but I'm just saying you have to put yourself in the scenario. My son's worth too much money. That was a bad judgment call. Yeah, and I don't know what happened at finish line. Yeah.

Well, how bad could it have been? Yeah. It's one of those situations like, what you mean? And if you got Memphis niggas with him, you don't want them to show a bad finish line, right? What they probably you know, she probably start shooting finish line, right? But what I'm saying is this what you got to realize she's not walking around or nobody knows that says I'm John Moran's mother Yeah, so niggas

Things get out of pocket. She's like, oh, let me bust a call and listen my mom God bless that called me a bunch of times and I got up and jumped. So I dig it, but when you worth that much money, you got to have a, don't call my son, call my husband, and if my husband is not available, call the shooter. Don't call the son, call the shooter. Or the nigga will come knocking, I don't even think you need a shooter at finish line.

Now, I don't know how Memphis finish line is, but I don even think you need a shooter at finish line. Now, I don't know how Memphis finish line is, but I don't think you need a shooter at finish line. So I think all that shit plays a part. Even, so this last scenario with the gun. Where was he at? The one in the car, that was the one y'all talking about? The one, the most recent

one now that he's in the car. He's in the car with the same person that they suspended from all the home games at the Memphis Grizzlies shit. Who, Devontae Pack? That's his name? I don't know his name. I think that's his name. Right. His partner, find his name for us now, but the guy

they suspended, his friend from all the Memphis Grizzlies games, that's who he in the car with. Now, if you look at the video, he driving, they doing this, he look over, he look shocked, he like, this nigga got a motherfucking gun out. Oh shit, turn the camera away. And then try to put it back on him, told him, nah, that's our fingers.

We shooting the finger guns, nigga. That ain't no real gun. It's too late. I'll bet you a hundred dollars to one murder, your dollar's for everything I love. I bet you everything, everybody's blaming him. Yo, my nigga, how you gonna have it on live? I thought you was just motherfucking recording. Father come, why would you put him on live? Here come, here come, yo, yo, yo, mother...

You dumb motherfucker. I'm dumb? Why is he holding a gun? Why you keep turning live on? You know what I'm saying? Listen, man, I'm gonna tell you something, man. Out of Fernwright, I won't say live on? You know what I'm saying? Listen, man, I'm going to tell you something, man. I had a friend, right? I won't say no names, all right?

I had a friend. Nigga teeth falling out and shit, right? Yeah. His mom came... Is this a true story? I know who you're talking about. Listen. This is a... This is an old friend. I don't... Listen.

It's an old friend. It's an old friend. He's an... Don't do that. No, I'm just saying. No, seriously. He said his teeth falling out. Everybody gonna know what he's talking about.

I ain't talking about him. Okay, okay, go ahead. I'm not talking about him. But his teeth falling out. Not talking... Not talking about... I'm not gonna say a name, but I'm not talking about i'm not gonna say name i'm not talking about any members or something not of a group or anything his teeth falling out and the

mom come out to say why y'all keep giving them candies 26 years old y'all keep giving them candy you know what's he yeah the 26 we keep getting a candy and that's the type of that's going on they're going to blame others instead of blaming the person who's actually informed that's crazy i think i think i want to know how many guns you think ja got how many you think you got first of all man let me tell you something man i mean he got two billion he got two if you're not using it don't pull it out pause it don't make sense to keep pulling out a gun to fucking listen to rap songs yeah you pull my guns the it's a song my nigga you pull out guns to listen to songs secondly I've seen his e60 special yeah I don't listen I don't

know what he was doing outside of basketball. I'm not going to act like I know his history. Pause. He came too far to go out this side. But what I'm saying is this. From the E60 Hollywood, you know Hollywood. The E60 special. Yeah. He grew up in a two family home in the house.

Father trained him in the backyard. I didn't see no wild shit going on. Not saying you're supposed to show that on E60. Yeah. But real niggas ain't respecting that. Real niggas going to be like, yo, if you're pulling out a pistol, you're going to use it. Yeah. What do you keep pulling it out?

Nothing of that speaks tough. You know what I'm saying? You think he wanted to be a game member? He might be at this point. At this point? At this point, he might have got. He might be ready to get jumped in. I think he already did.

I think he's already in. But jumped in. I think he already did. I think he's already in. But the thing about it, I like Jai. Listen, Jai, I defend you a lot because a lot of niggas be hating. I think you're a spectacular basketball player. But at the end of the day, this shit going course. Yeah, me too. I think Jai is amazing.

But I think in his mind, he's battling something he can't talk about. That's the only thing I think makes sense for the way he's acting. He's probably battling something he can't talk about. I ain't going with the battle murder because the problem is this. You just went to rehab two months ago. You went out with you battling. Should have got out of there and rehabbed. You went to rehab. You came on Jalen Rose's show.

Shout out to Jalen Rose. You said that you learned your lesson. Jalen Rose looked like he was tight about that when they came back out with the information. Yeah, because you said that. Because he defended them. Yeah, he defended them. Then you come back out and you wild out. Not even two months later, you just said, first of all, you got a timeline.

What's your timeline? I got a timeline from when he got the money. Right. And then, you know, the gun pulled out and then the suspension. Right. And then he comes back and he does well. The team start playing good without him.

Then the second gun, then they lose. Your timeline starts March 31st. It 2nd or whatever date it is it may it's a short timeline so you're saying all this said i'm rehab i'm gonna work on this self work on itself pause after they lost right exactly and and that was two weeks ago exactly So can we believe anything you say moving forward? That's the question. And now what's going to happen is every little thing you do is going to be scrutinized. You're going to get a 25-game suspension minimum. Yeah.

Because listen, now, Adam Silver is a little softer pause than David Stern. David Stern, that time, Carmelo Anthony stuffed the nigga. I think he gave Carmelo Anthony 59 games. Some wild shit. Adam Silver's a little bit softer. So I would say he'd get 25 to 30 games, but that's fucked up for the Grizzlies. How you start in your season.

Let's say you get 25 games. Let's just use that number. I don't know if that's the number or not. You start your season off 8 and 15? I don't think he care. I think he want to be the richest op that's crazy that's my thing i think you want to do walk through that's really what he wants to do you want to do walk through so you want to start with telling me because i have no idea about this because he won't this because she said she said she's saying and she told me earlier off camera that he's doing walkthroughs and I said to her I said yeah pardon

me I said what the fuck you talking about yeah because because listen I do walk I don't I don't even do walkthroughs like I used to I'm doing once in a while but I don't want to do don't do now don't get me wrong 23 is different from my age, but I'm just saying in general You're never gonna get What you get for NBA game at a walkthrough? It don't unless you walking through the garden or some other shit. You're not getting that he might want to rap She said he was rapping Party he was on top of a speaker rapping to some shit. I'm right. He want to on the boys' song. At his party. He was on top of a speaker rapping or some shit. So then I'm right. He want to be the richest op.

I get it, John. You got caught with a pistol like this, Pores. Next thing, you in the car like this, Pores. Next thing, after you get caught with the pistols and suspended, you laid back in a strip club like this with $100,000 on you. Then you come on TV and say, you know, I went to camp in Florida and got myself together. And now you back out here what I will say is this mom dad other friends don't kick that kid out

your circle because when I promise you the one thing that I did get out that video yeah whoever was driving that car looks shocked as a motherfucker so yeah Devontae didn't know yeah so to add about more context, so his friend is Devontae Pack. They've been friends since AAU days. That's been his long-term friend. But Devontae's actually, like, he can't go to any more Grizzlies games because they got into an altercation with the Pacers players, with him and Andrew Nembhard.

So they actually took him off the court. He can't go to any more games. So technically, that's been his ride or die because that's his good friend. You know you're wilding, though, When your friend can't come in the arena. Yeah, this is crazy. And you the number one star. And then add on to that now what I just remembered. Yeah.

That's when the Pacers leaving niggas put a scope on the nigga. Like, yo. Remember the beam? Yeah, they put a beam. From the bus, yeah. Oh, I get it. He was trying to trump Mikey Williams. Now Mikey capped the niggas capping them. He was trying to trump Mikey Williams. Now, Mikey capped a nigga's cap.

He wants you to know he's still out here. Oh, yeah. That was one. It's two. Yeah, don't. You're going now. You're going, nigga. What the fuck did you talk about?

Exactly. It's a new one. That's what he was saying. It's a new one. Yeah. The reason I go with Mikey Williams, though, if we're going to go back to Valance. Yeah. The reason I go with Mikey Williams over, John,

is because Mikey pulled out on the nigga Paws and then erased his whole brand. That's when you guilty as a motherfucker, nigga. Nigga said, I'm going to give social media a break. Mikey went black. He went cold black. That's when you realize. That's what John need to do.

John need a haircut. He got to cut his dress. He got to need a haircut. He got to cut his dress. He got to just revamp. He got to go with brothers. He got to go with brothers. Yeah, yeah. He got to go with brothers. So listen, don't ever put him on.

I don't know if he battling Mikey like you said, but that kid Mikey went cold dark on him. Now listen, let me ask you this then we go on top of it. Would you think what would happen if LeVar Ball was his father? Hmm. That's a good question.

That's a good one. LeVar would choke him out. LeVar would slap the shit out that nigga. LeVar would smack a rock out his head. LeVar Ball would beat the shit out of John.

Yeah. Like one of the mellow, mellow LeVar Ball would have grabbed him by his dreads and walked him out. All that shit I worked for you and you pulling the piss. And you going to do this? Pull it out on me, Paws. I'll knock the shit out you, nigga.

Fuck is you talking about? And that's the difference in certain fathers. Yeah, they got to get the guns out of John House. Yeah, like T. Morant and LeVar Ball, you see the difference. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying that I think Ja Morant's better than all the Ball brothers, but you can see the, you nigga not going to play with certain fathers. LeVar Ball looked like he would still fuck one of them niggas up.

He got a Joe Jackson effect on his kids. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he definitely does. What do we call this, though, what Ja is doing? Is it a new thing? I wouldn't call it the, though? What Jai's doing? Is it a new thing? I wouldn't call it the... Gary Coleman. Gary Coleman?

Yeah. I call it the Webster. What's the difference, though? Because the Webster is when you think you so lit, nothing can happen to you. Okay, that's the Webster. Yeah, that's the Webster. This nigga got the Webster. Yeah, he got both.

Yeah, he got both. He so lit, that guy have to go with the Webster, but he still the youngest nigga in his circle with the most money. So he got a combination of two short niggas, what's that, the Napoleon complex that mushed together pours. He definitely got the Webster. Yeah, man. He think he's so mainstream, they can't remove me.

But to be honest with you, he's so young that he's going to get away with it. I mean, he's not getting kicked out of the league now. That's the Webster. Yeah, that's the Webster now. If he was 33 and not 23, he might be playing in Shanghai, for real. But he's 23. He's so young that even if he left for two years, he's young enough to come back and still bust ass.

He's 23 years old. And the last thing that I'll say, I don't know if you have a closing point on this. I've seen... I do. Yeah, and I want to ask you this because I've seen Jalen Rose talk about this. And I think about this a lot, not even basketball-wise, just early in my career, about social media. Like, seriously, like, damn.

If I had social media when I was 23 or 24, 25, 26, would I have been like, I don't know if I posted guns to fuck the checkup or anything else. But, you know, we're rappers, so we get away with all the shit but it's a lot of shit that I might have done to fumble the bag because of social media but that's when we go back to who you got around you as well yeah that matters who you got around you matters right and I think even when Jalen was saying that there's some cap to that. I respect you, Jalen. But they trust me to tell the truth over here. And I think when it came to the whole outlook on John Morant, what people are not realizing is that he's setting himself up for something bigger

that's worse to happen. Like because of all these things happen, life flows in a pattern. And all these patterns, you know where they lead. We saw this with Allen Iverson, we saw it with a lot of different athletes. And I think he's setting himself up for something really bad. So we're joking to try to make light of it,

but realistically you need a crisis manager. Right. What you put in the bid to come out and come out at me? Yeah, you need to come out at me. That's a crisis manager. Right. What you putting in the bed? Come out at me? Yeah, you need to come out at me. I mean, you need crisis management because when you've been seen with a gun and now you unravel and now you're seen with another gun,

when something big happens, like say he's running around with the guys in Memphis, God forbid, and those guys are going to really do something, all of this history now plays a part in just removing them from the scene. Right. You're right. Well, I'm going to add my quick little two cents.

Ja, I really hope you tighten up because you're young. You have so much potential. We want to see you win. Yeah, we definitely do. So let's hope some other things change from then. But with that, we'll be right back. Pink Horse Power. some other things change from then but with that we'll be right back pink horsepower she called this thing about toxic what's happening baby baby what's that why you walking like that that's how that's how i walk

and then like you come on breathing on me like that. I fucking breathe to live. And like, you used to be dark skinned and now you act like hella light skinned. You fucking blind? I'm dark skinned. What the fuck? And then like, look at your beard. The fuck is wrong with my beard? Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are you talking about?

No, I don't even like it. The way you breathe and all of that. Has this ever happened to you? Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset. She's frustrated. There's only one way to handle that. Pink Horse Power. But your breath, but your breath is really refreshing! No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately?

It looks so good. No! PHP. It works every time. Wait! Where you going? Welcome back. Okay, so the Warriors are out of the playoffs a lot earlier than many people expected. Is this the end of their dynasty? There's so much to say with the Warriors.

Don't throw no hats at Cam. We on the set. What's that supposed to mean? Yo, I'm telling you, you don't even know it's a meeting after this shit is over. I've been cool about that shit and I moved on. But believe me, we about to have a full-fledged meeting afterwards. I'll pay y'all. Don't worry about it.

Throw the hats when you feel like it. If he's capping, throw the hats. I'm going to think of some shit, man. I'm going to think of something. Go ahead, bro. Y'all got it tonight. Y'all got it tonight. Y'all got it tonight.

What did you say again? Is this the end of the Warriors dynasty? Oh, man. I think Golden State, now that I did my research, Golden State been in trouble since last summer. I think this goes all the way back to last summer. When they chose to give that money to Jordan Poole, he ended up not being worth the money. Then they ended up giving the money to Jordan Poole, he ended up not being worth the money.

Then they ended up giving the money to Andrew Wiggins, and they didn't secure Draymond. So then Draymond comes back and punch Jordan Poole in the face, and then as it's going forward, being on good teams, you know good teams play well when there's trust, and the trust is just broken because if you don't think they're going to secure you as Draymond, I feel like Draymond was helping the Lakers but that's another conversation I think him and LeBron are really cool too cool for the finals but that's

another conversation don't throw no hats I agree with that comment actually the last part about uh Draymond and LeBron I'm thinking I've been thinking Draymond's exit plan is to the Lakers. They both under-clutch sports, or Draymond's under-clutch sports. LeBron is clutch sports with Rich Paul. But is the Golden State Dynasty over? No. No, it's not over. Murray says 100% right.

This is what happened jordan pool bought the out last year and so did andrew wiggins those were the two young guns that they needed with clay draymond and stuff i have inside information from last year not even from this year i'm talking about when when Jordan Poole was doing really well. Yeah. That Jordan Poole, and not only Jordan Poole, Jordan Poole's family feels that Steph, Draymond, and Klay be hating on him. This is when he was playing good.

Hating on him for what? Because he was, don't, last year Jordan Poole was watching that. Oh yeah, he was going crazy. So they felt. He was going crazy this year too. Yeah, so last year, I'm last year i got this information last year and they you know i'm talking about jordan poole's close family feels that and john pool as well feel that they're hating on him because if he takes a shot too much he should have passed it or yeah he

didn't he didn't see the open man or he didn't see this person and that helped win that championship along with andrew wiggins win that championship last year you don helped win that championship, along with Andrew Wiggins, win that championship last year. You don't win that championship without Jordan Poole or Andrew Wiggins. Of course, Klay, Steph, Draymond, you know, and Godala didn't really play. You don't think they win it without Jordan Poole? No, no, no. You don't win that without Jordan Poole or Andrew Wiggins.

Andrew Wiggins' defense alone was crazy. Back to what you were saying, you know, Jordan Poole didn't have to get the player option to renegotiate his contract. Yeah. He gets punched in the face before the season starts. So, to me, that was a sympathy $130 million. Like, man, if we don't re-sign him now when the season's over,

he can go where he want let's get this now yeah and you can't sign him and not sign andrew wiggins yeah so you like damn we got to catch both of them but how do you sign all of them and not draymond because maybe they're looking at draymond as the excuse now that why we had to pay him yo dre we could have caught him for cheaper but yeah you the player your punch pay him. Yo, Dre, we could have caught him for cheaper, but you fucked the player. Your punch cost us literally

$300 million. Because you, $130 for him, $160 or whatever it was for Andrew Wiggins. So that one punch cost them. I'm not saying they want to pay Poole or Andrew Wiggins in the future. I'm just saying they had to pay them before the season started. So that punch cost

it. After that, the chemistry is all done. Yeah, that's what I was speaking to. Yeah, the chemistry is done for the season. The season never panned out. What happened is, I don't even know the record, but the Warriors road record was terrible. They probably had one of the top five worst road records. Yeah, and to be a championship team, you know you got to win on it.

That's one of the criteria for being a championship team. Right, they lost. Absolutely, so I think the chemistry was fucked up from the beginning. I don't think it can ever be fixed because you have to realize this. If you think before the punch, the niggas ain't fucking with you,

imagine I have to punch. Even if you ain't fucking with me, I ain't fucking with you now. You know what I'm saying? It was one way, now it's both ways. Right, yeah, because you know, it's basically,

I'll give you a great example. When I got to Rockefeller Records, right, there's already Rockefeller Records. Yes. So I'm trying to be nice. Hey guys, hey,

you know what I'm saying? Hey, y'all already got this shit going on, man. Hey, you want to do a song? Hey, come on, man. Like, hey, you want to do a song? Hey, come on, freelance. Hey, yo, B, you want to do something?

You already hate all of them niggas. Yeah, yeah. So I'm extra nice and everything. Hey, you want to get in the studio? Let me step out. I'm going to step out the studio. So I come in. Hey, what's up?

Damn, you know me. What's up, shoot? What's up with me? I can't wait to come. Hey, everything's cool. Everything's really good. Hey, you guys playing spades? Yeah, we playing spades, but we almost done.

All right, fine. I can't play spades. And you keep being nice. You keep trying. And that nigga giving you your ass. They ask to kiss, and you're like, I'm really not this nigga right here. I'm working on myself. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm really not this nigga right here that's trying to I'm working on myself exactly

I'm really not him that nigga slap you in the face and you like now niggas is dead fuck now niggas playing with me but you gotta be bothered with that cause you under the same thing I think

and it's not extreme as Jordan Poole I'm just giving two different scenarios of somebody who walked into an operation that was already moving trying to be nice and Jordan Poole. I'm just giving two different scenarios of somebody who walked into an operation that was already moving, trying to be nice. And Jordan Poole walked into a team that already won three championships. And he's an asset. Same thing with Rockefeller. Don't act like I came in there and I didn't get the most spins in Def Jam history before Kanye came. I want the Rockefeller most spins in Def jam history ll cool j third base that's a that's a crazy crazy thing to say right oh boy and then hey mom had the most spins i had the most spins

and i'm talking about ll who public enemies everybody exactly so i say they were joined right exactly so jor pu is an asset helping them win but then when give you a ass to kiss it's like all right enough's enough and i don't think i'm not saying john pool is me but there's ways to show without being tough there's ways to be like practice whatever because with with somebody pointing out to me he's a coach in the nba yeah what somebody pointed out to me was if you look at when draymond poole snuffed him yeah snuffed drawing pool look at clay and stuff turn they back and walk away like they have one of those been action for that so i ain't even gonna say i don't think he was too arrogant though

to start off drawing pool i'll say this i think he's nice i think he's nice definitely nice shout out to milwaukee i've seen kevin ke Garnett say this Kevin Garnett said this that After you win the championship the rookies who was there the next year come back arrogant They come back thinking that you won the chip before because of them and sometimes I put them in a place This is Kevin Garnett without care this Kevin Garnett And sometimes you got to put them in a place. This is Kevin Garnett. What up, Kev? This is Kevin Garnett analyzation of certain things when he won the championship and when he came back with the rookies thought that they was all that.

And he was saying that that may be related to what happened with Jordan Poole. What rumor had was it was a three-day or three different times what Jordan Poole said. They said he said to Draymond, the first thing he said the first day was, damn, how you go to Michigan State and I go to Michigan and I fuck more bitches in Michigan State than you. You know, that's like

some rivalry shit. It's already a rivalry between Michigan and Michigan State. So he said I fuck more bitches in Michigan State than you. That's crazy. Next incident is... That was supposed to get him punched right there. Exactly.

The next incident is he was saying something about something, some contract shit, and he said, yo, why you give a fuck? You're going to be in Sacramento next year. What the fuck you give a fuck for? And then the last... That was the second punch. Yeah, then the last thing he said,

I guess they was running some laps or some shit, and when you miss, you got to run more. Draymond wants to miss it. He's like, yo, tighten the fuck up. You got to run laps. All right, bro, you keep playing. Bop! So I'm not saying he ain't deserve it,

but you don't get all that. You know, I'm giving you some, you know, that was public, but I'm telling you the personal shit about how Jordan Poole already felt, and I think that fucked the whole chemistry up for the year Jordan Poole I know we make a lot of fun about the ice spice shit and all that shit but I think the whole chemistry on the team is fucked up and I don't know if it can be fixed moving forward with those players that's the question all right let me ask you this is he a splash brother or not he's definitely not a splash brother last year he

was the splash little brother brother, the cousin, because it was the Splash brothers. Because that's the big question. People try to act like he's definitely one of the Splash brothers. I heard people say that. But you know, this is why I think Clay and stuff is mad. I have no knowledge of this. It's because they're the Splash brothers, but he had the pool party.

Niggas might not like that. Word, the pool party. The pool party. Word, say less. Back. I heard Clay call them that when they won the game. Yeah, because when you're doing so good, they can't hate on you. Yeah.

Another thing back to the rhythm. I know we spent a lot of time on Jordan Poole, but it's the dynasty over Clay. Clay looked really bad this series. He looked really really bad. I don't he look tired or he looked old a little bit of both You know when it is that I'm not sure when you do that to your ACL It's hard. Yeah, a lot of lateral movement. Yeah,'s he was known for a defensive player. Not just a great score. He's a great defense player. I think his defense slack

tremendously because of the injury. Do you get rid of clay? I'm not saying you're in a clay because one thing clay does what we use his shots of missing shots. You have to guard them. So he opens the floor up. I would not say that the

Dynasty is over that just get back to the question. I would not say the dynasty is over. No, because a lot of dynasties don't win, you know, you got Shaq, Kobe and and they won three years in a row, but my team outside of the Knicks is the Spurs. And the Spurs never went back to back. But do you consider the Spurs a dynasty? Yeah, they were. Yeah, exactly.

They got four or five championships. Tim Dunn got five, but they have no championships back-to-back. None of them are back-to-back. So is the dynasty over? No, I think that they got added a couple more pieces. The question is what are they going to do with this situation with everybody in Georgia? This dynasty as we know it is over, though.

When you say the dynasty as we know it is over... That means somebody is moving out of this circle. No, not to cut you off. So basically, I don't even count Kawhi Leonard part of the San Antonio dynasty because to me, the core of the San Antonio dynasty. Tony Parker, Ginobili, Tim Duncan. So Clay, Steph, Draymond.

They all under contract next year for Golden State. Draymond should be up the following year. So, I don't know if it's over right this second. Murda saying it could be, but I'm not going to throw them under the bus. I think they may need some more key pieces around. Secondly, me and Murda talk about this off the camera all the time. What the fuck happened to the Wiseman? He's in Detroit.

The number one person they needed in that series was Wiseman. Word. You wasted a second pick in a lottery pick because they got off the year that Stephon was playing on Wiseman when they could have gotten LaMelo Ball. Yeah. Like, yo, you got to take that into consideration. Who made that call? You think Steve Kerr made it?

The GM of Golden State state i can't think of name that's who they're talking about as well his contract is up and then he says he doesn't know if he's coming back and that's the guy who he wants more money too yeah everybody need more money yeah so he's saying he doesn't know if he's coming back but they would say his resume is impeccable what he's done in golden state over the last eight nine years have been crazy but even including bringing kevin durant there whether whether or not people like that that's dope for gms so his resume is crazy but they just said they don't know if they're going to bring him back and he's been a great gm since he's been there also not now but a lot of people don't know Jerry West in the beginning was consulting with go to stay

Yeah, Joey West is nice with that GM shit. Yes, it might be moving Stephen Steve Kerr to the gym. Maybe We'll see. Well, I think that the Warriors losing to the Lakers was a big reality check So it's gonna be interesting to see what happens next. Do you think the dynasty's over? Um, I don't think it's over I think they have a lot to work on because I mean I'm a fan of the trio I like clay like dream. I like Clay. I like Draymond and I like Steph Curry but something's gotta give and if they're not winning these games then something's gonna have to switch around. Yeah, you can't spend like that's

what I'm saying like did not get out of it. It don't make sense and what I'm not gonna fire their coach. So, you're not what I will say this before we get out of here is that if they don't make some adjustments i don't think that this team beats sacramento in the playoffs next year if it's a real that's why i said the dynasty could be over yeah right well let us know what you guys think make sure to hashtag it is what it is and let us know your thoughts we'll be right back One eye, one heart, one love Excuse me, after last night performance, we gonna do this again?

No That's right, I don't think so And make sure you close the door behind you Damn! I'm Rico fucking Strong. Fuck! Don't do this shit! Baby! Ay! I'm back. I'm back.

Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Muchacho, levántate. Toma esto, bébetelo. Right now? Well, well,.

Well. Now, right now. Right now. Yeah. Let me see you walk it off. Walk it off. Yeah, let me see you walk it off. Walk it off. Girl, let me see you walk it off. Walk it off. Welcome back. Okay, so we talked about the Warriors being out,

but so are the 76ers and the Knicks. Yes. Do you believe they even had a chance? The Knicks? Hmm. I don't think I've been a Knicks fan since John Starks I don't think they had a chance

we never had a chance I was thinking why was she next next to him? We never have a champ. Listen, man. We know something's going to happen. Oh, my God. I talked to my nigga Sin City.

He said, good looking for the shout out. But look, you know what the Knicks fans, what a Knicks fan told me? Yeah. Excuse me. This is our championship second round. He said, we ain't been second round in 20 years. This is our championship. For real.

As far as, so I'm going to agree. No, I don't think the Knicks have a chance. I think Jalen Brunson's a soldier. He did his motherfucking thing. Jalen Brunson went crazy. You got to give him his fucking props. But, no, I don't think the Knicks ever had a chance. The Sixers?

I thought the Sixers had a game six. Yeah. The Sixers had a game six. They was up. They were. Man, I was talking to KD about that. You know, we was talking about this, you know. And he was like, Boston's a complete team. I'm like, nah,'m like nah the sixes looked at me crazy like yeah all right this was before

game seven and I'm like he's like yo you talking about camera they was just up like 15 points and Tatum had 16 to fourth and came back and Katie was saying this yeah Katie he's talking about it he's going to Boston no man let's say that no I didn't say nothing like that's my man like we talk ball but is he going to Boston no not that I know what the fuck is he talking about I'm just I can't have a conversation with my man we can talk in basketball no because he gave me his opinion I was like we was basically I was saying I thought the Sixers was going to win he told me I was bugging and obviously I was fucking bugging because I was looking at game six

and I'm like, these niggas have Boston. Jason Tatum had like five points going into the fourth quarter. And I'm like, ain't no way they're going to come back then. Jason Tatum come back and hit 51. More of the story is to answer your question, I think the Sixers had more of a chance than the Knicks did. Yeah. I think Jason Tatum

heard us talking about him. Yeah. And about what we said about Jalen Brown. Yeah. And he wanted to show you.um heard us talking about him. Yeah, and about what we said about Jalen Brown Yeah, I wanted to show you heard you talking about my station I say nothing about him you was dissing him saying that Jalen Jalen Brown should be the first option Yeah, that's what you said niggas listen to me Made him turn up. That's what I made him turn up. I'm here to make sure that you know Can I say sir could you look at it so Ben Simmons with the fucks?