IT IS WHAT IT IS - EPISODE 17 #ITISWHATITISTALK

Episode Date: June 6, 2023

THE EAST & WEST CONFERENCE FINALS...

I said it's only one. Oh, he ain't got it, he ain't got it. We done heard his tongue. Welcome back to It Is What It Is. I'm Treasure Wilson, a.k.a. Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Cam and Mace. What's up, baby? Let's go.

It's good. Yeah. Okay, let's go. So we are entering the East vs. West Conference Finals. This is the same rematch at the NBA Bubble back in 2020. Who do you got? You got chains on and shit under these shit. You're in a lot of jewelry lately.

Let me know if this is what we're doing. If this is what we're doing, let me know. You know I can switch up. I can switch up. Just let me. Don't bombard me with jewelry. It's all good. I'll button my switch up. Just let me. Don't bombard me with jewelry. It's all good. I'll button my shirt up.

Who I got? This isn't the bubble. This is definitely not the bubble. This is not the bubble. This is not the bubble. What I will say is this. A lot of people, including you, put. Including me.

Yeah. You put an asterisk next to the bubble championship yeah definitely you don't you don't count it as as uh he doesn't count it as a real championship me i count it as a real championship because to me it's no outside it's straight aau it's basketball there's no excuse yo the fan ain't do this the crowd ain't cheering cheer you. But they did do COVID. They said if you had COVID, then you couldn't play, remember? So it was excuses. But who had COVID? Everybody was in the bubble.

Only niggas snuck out was Lemon Pepper Lou. Yeah. And Kyrie didn't come. Yeah, but Brooklyn wasn't in it. Kyrie was trying to get niggas not to do it at all. Kyrie was like, fuck the whole bubble. He wasn't even invited to the bubble. He was like, fuck the whole bubble. But I't even invited to the bubble. He's like, fuck the whole bubble.

But I do count that championship because I think that's purely basketball. There's no excuses, no crowd. Even though crowd, that's part of the NBA too, arguing with the fans, making noise when you shoot foul shots. But I put that as a real championship solely because it's basketball. To get back to 2023, I think that this is a totally different Laker team I mean bar me absolutely totally different nugget team I think what Anthony Davis was doing to the Joker is not going to be as easy as he was doing to the Joker pause in the bubble that that I seen

the other day that me and makes reference about about last episode. This is a different type of nigga. Not only that, he has two league MVPs since then. Could have potentially got the MVP this year, but sat out like the last eight games. So you have a potential three-time-in-a-row MVP, guaranteed two-time MVP. Jamal Murray, he hadn't played since the bubble two this year. Yeah.

Like I said, I hate to keep... Murray was. Yeah. Like I said, I hate to keep. Murray was looking crazy. Like I said, I hate to keep alluding to the last episode, but that should be a murder scene on the floor with some wild shit. Jamal Murray's different. The key piece to me, I think, in a Nuggets victory is Pope, Pope Jr. He got a vendetta. Niggas said, niggas ain't want me.

Yeah. Niggas ain't want me. Yeah, this is going to be serious. Yeah, niggas ain't want me. Yeah niggas ain't Gonna show up against the lake. Nah, he gonna show on to that cuz niggas didn't that's the team that let him go Who's gonna win in the West's right now? I'm still in the West. That's tough LeBron wanted bad Yeah, LeBron wants to but I could see it. I could see my Anthony Davis get hurt. He start making up Yeah, he does. LeBron wants it. But I can see it. I can see when Anthony Davis get hurt, he start making a, like, hair frack and fucking hurt again. Goddamn. I got to do this dodo and he don't complain. The nigga was in a wheelchair. Do you remember that?

Yeah, yo, the nigga was... Yeah. Yo, what is he doing? Who is in a wheelchair? Yo, boxers get knocked down and don't go out in a wheelchair. And got to get carried walking out. Yeah, come on, man. When I saw that, I said, come on now.

Listen, this is tough because I don't want to go against LeBron because I know what kind of mission he on. LeBron, listen. Cam, you tried that last time. What did I try? You tried to go with who you think you should go with. No, I don't last time what I tried. You tried to go with who you think you should go with. I don't know what your heart say.

My heart say Denver, but at the same time, my heart say Denver, but you got to think about a nigga LeBron monster because he knows he won this championship. You want to wait for Mike? Yeah. And not only that, what you want to say now, y'all was stuff

carried out earlier. Yeah, that's true. That's true. He like, want to wait for Mike. So he's on a different mission. But if I had to pick somebody, a complete team,

like I said, fuck it. Yeah, Denver is crazy. Yo, yo, bro. You got, Reggie Jackson getting no minutes off the bench.

You think Michael Porter Jr. going to show up against LeBron? Yes. Yeah, Michael, that's another thing. All you gotta do, Michael Porter, is dunk on LeBron, and y'all gonna win it. Yo, listen, Michael Porter Jr., also, for people that don't know,

like I said, me, that nigga's a legit 6'10". Yeah. I thought he was 6'6", 6'7". He was the same height as Kevin Durant. That nigga's a legit 6'10". So, if I gotta pick, I'm gonna go with denver i'm rooting for braun but um denver looks tough yeah on the east i think i think the lakers got a good

chance unless michael porter's dunk on him like he did katie if he dunks on him like he did katie they're gonna win so you bet in the whole series of for dunks on the he said yeah that's my answer yes that's my answer you know whenever somebody like that michael porter jr gets aggressive with a star player it just changes the whole morale so you're saying that's momentum for them to win. They need that momentum. So what if they down 30 and he dunk on them? They down 30, but he dunks on them. Then what? Next game is going to be turn up.

What if it's game and they about to get eliminated? They down 3-2. Then they waited too late to dunk on them. I can go with that. I mean, I'm picking Denver. Hoping the best for LeBron on the East. Boston should win. But playoff Jimmy's a real thing.

Playoff Jimmy is a real thing. That's a real thing. I believe it now. I'm not going to lie. At first, I was like, come on, man, playoff Jimmy. But it's serious. And they beat Boston in the bubble. And he was hurt. And he was hurt.

And he went out there and still got it done. Right. So back, I don't want to flip-flop but boston should went back for some reason i'm gonna go with miami for some reason i just think that play go with miami over boston listen the black mass assassin and i shouldn't but i don't know one player on their team tougher than jimmy butler robin hood who's Robin Hood? Jalen Brown. He's tougher than Jimmy Butler. No, he's not, but he's going to show up.

I got Jalen Brown showing up. He was there in the bubble. Yeah, he was, but he's different now. Yeah, but I mean, everybody's grown. Jason Tatum's different. Yeah, I was going to say. Jason Tatum is two times in a row first team or NBA. I like Miami too, but I'm

rooting for Jalen Brown. I'm going to keep it 100. Everything says that Boston should win this series. Everything says that. But sometime it ain't about the analytics and what niggas say. It's just sometime a nigga like, you got... Today is my day. Yeah, listen. Look at this, bro.

I can't remember all the teams the year Iverson went to the chip against the Lakers, but it was Iverson Eric snow. Yeah, Matt McKee. Yeah, like yo, come on. I'm just into the finals of 60 by itself. And I think I'm not comparing Jimmy Butler to Iverson's two different things, but I think he has an Iverson heart. And you play for pat riley pat riley know how to put the battery in your back pause when you're a tough so boston should win but i'm jimmy butler alone could beat boston jimmy butler beat the greek freak in them don't know

i got people calling me from milwaukee right now said, how y'all feeling right now? They just like, it's crazy. Yeah. So, he be honest. And I'm not saying y'all is 100%, but who's 100% when the playoffs start? None of that matters. Right. Okay.

Well, respectfully, I want the Heat to win. I think Jimmy Butler is one of the best players. But we're going to touch a little bit on the Heat before we go back to the Lakers. So, Jason Tatum set the NBA record for the most points in game seven with 51 points versus the 76ers. But as we know, playoff Jimmy Butler is a thing. So final, need your stamped answer. Do you think that the Celtics will beat the Heat?

Because all the odds are with them, but I need you guys' final answer. I'm going with Boston. I'm going with the Heat. I think I think listen boy and listen one more time Boston's statistically upon me shit win but if Jimmy and I mean let me put up put a little whatever it's called on if Jimmy Butler doesn't get hurt. Disclaimer. Yeah, disclaimer. He has to stay healthy for the whole thing. That's what's going on. If he gets hurt, you can forget about this in five. Right. It's Jimmy Butler versus everybody at this point.

Yeah, he needs his own t-shirt. Jimmy Butler versus everybody. That'd be a dope t-shirt. I think they're trying to make it a Boston-LA thing. Now, that's what, you know, when I was in Vegas, I was in Vegas this this past weekend and that's what everybody wants to see they say yeah we want to see that classic shit man yeah boys and girls like it so we see who got the most ships you know they know they in the sports book talk

about it's 17 a piece of 1817 well we got the most sight was there rounding it up like that LA fans so that'd be a good one and then on the west dennis schruder basically gave his flowers to draymond green saying um that he had a lot of love for him and so in response from he gave him his flowers like his respect not literal flowers like he gave him his flowers yeah and so basically in response dr Draymond commented to Dennis Schroeder saying, much love and respect for you, bro. You changed the series. Go finish the job.

So again, final answer. Do y'all agree with Draymond's comment for the Lakers beating Denver? Well, let's touch on before we give a final answer. I thought you said Schroeder gave flowers to Draymond. No, like he did a post, like appreciation post for saying like, okay, Draymond. You know, that's the sling every nigga day flowers So basically what he's saying is Dennis Schroeder gave dream on his props and dream. I was like Good looking bro. You go finish the job pause. So what I take from that is what's the job?

Basically go win the chip so put the camera on me talking about? It's them that's going crazy. Listen, Draymond. Look, again, put the camera on me, Draymond. Listen, you blew this. You helped the Lakers win. You were working with LeBron from my point of view.

You didn't want Golden State to win it, because you don't think you might be there long. That's what I think. That's what I'm thinking. He helped LeBron. Well, my thing is this. You said Draymond blew this.

That's wow, first of all. That's wow. Can't be professional. I'm trying. I let you finish your soliloquy. I was quiet. I didn't say nothing. All right.

But I agree with Murda because, listen, I get what Draymond was trying to say, and I get it. But he's basically saying, yo, go out and win. Now, what I would say about what Draymond said is this. If I lose, at least the team I lost to are the champs. So I'll be like, yo, because if you lose and the niggas you lose to didn't even win,

then who is you? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I totally agree like, with murder, but at the same time, if I'm going to lose

to somebody, I would rather lose to the people who won the championship. Yeah, I get that because you don't want to be the person

who lost to the one that didn't win it because then you're under that. Yeah, now you're like in fourth, fifth. You're just trickling down. Pause on the whole thing. I said, I said, yeah, would you? Now you know.

Yeah. Okay, Zach. Okay, Zach. That was super crazy, Zach. You saw the beginning, Zach. That's great. But I don't know. Like I said, I ain't knocking Draymond for that,

but I do get your point. That was great. Yeah, I would think he would tell that to LeBron, not Schroeder. He ain't going to be responsible for that. The way I took it, the way you said it is, you shouldn't tell nobody that. You should have went out there and got the job done. That's how I was taking it.

But if I am going to lose to somebody, at least I could say that we lost to the champions, so I get that. But you made a point, too, saying that you think you're helping LeBron. I'm not going to say. You think he's helping him. I'm not saying that, but I do see Draymond when his contract is up going to the Lakers. I have no knowledge of this or anything else, but I do him saying.

Even in his podcast he says something he says something along those lines that just gave me la vibes well you know he signed the clutch lebron did come to his wedding see this is what i have a problem with it's all collaborative it's hard to tell what's really going on. Can I fuck with you on the court? Because off the court you my man. But LeBron came to his wedding, they are friends. He's always on, you know, whether it's LeBron's barbershop or anything else, and he signed the clutch.

So is Rich Paul maneuvering his way to get Draymond to finish his career in LA with LeBron? That's a great question. I think LeBron just be making them put their shield down so he can stab them every year. Because, listen, I think, like, I know Draymond has another year on the contract, if I

believe, but I can definitely see him saying the stuff like, we did all we could do Monday because I'm going to L.A. and figure this thing out, man. I don't know if that's a fact. Yeah, I think they're going to wake up one day and that meme is going to be Draymond face on the weight meme that was there when LeBron left his house in Miami. I don't know.

Like, I didn't see that one, but I think that's not too far-fetched that Draymond will end up in L.A. I don't know that for a fact, but we'll see. Yeah, we will see. And then I got to ask, if the Lakers doing it all, are y'all going to be ready? I'm not even going to say y'all. Are you, Mace, are you going to be ready to crown LeBron as the GOAT?

See, listen, I knew you was going to do this. I had to come back around. I knew you were going to do this. I had to come back around. I knew you was going to do this. So let me hear the question again. Tell it to me one more time. If the Lakers win it all, are you ready to crown LeBron as the GOAT? Why is it if I'm ready? Why is it if I'm ready?

You be LeBron badging all the time. LeBron badging? You're LeBron badger up in the show all the time. How am I bashing LeBron? You always dissing LeBron on the show. No, I have high regards for LeBron, but it's just my, I'm an NBA purist. What does that mean? What the fuck are you talking about?

My views are pure. They're not tainted. So when I give an outlook, it's not tainted with friendships. It's not tainted with hometown heroes. You see what I'm saying out there, TV land? I'm not tainted, so my views are pure. So I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a man. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman.

I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a man. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a man. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman.

I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm a woman. I'm not tainted with the fact that I'm not tainted, so my views are pure, you know? So when I hold LeBron in that light of gold, as a purist, I don't give him that based upon what I know as a purist. So as a purist, you feel like his stats aren't enough?

Let me, matter of fact. The question is, the question is, enough? Wait, wait, wait. Wait. I want to give you some stats. Since you're a stat baby, right? Let me give you some stats. I knew y'all was gonna pull this. I'm ready today.

Who's y'all? She asked the fucking question. I didn't even answer the question yet. I'm not together on it. Yes, you are. Yo, bros, I didn't even answer the fucking question yet. Now, your question is, will I be ready to make him go? All right? So we're talking about today, right? Today's goal.

I'm looking at the stats of the top five in points in the playoffs. He's not there. Top five in assists. he's not there. Top five in assists, he's not there. Top five in three-pointers, he's not there. Top five in rebounds, he's not there. Top five in blocks, he's not there. Top five in steals, he's not there. So if he's not top five in any, he's not there. So if he's not top

five in any other categories, why would I be talking about gold? So who would you put above him? Time out. Can I say something? Yo, bro. Yeah. Listen.

He's not top five this year in those categories, but we're talking about a body of work over 20 years. I know, but you're saying, like, this year is going to change something. She said if he wins the championship. This year. If he wins this year, but would you, are you willing to crown him as the greatest of all time?

No, and I'm telling you why. Because wherever you can put an accolade, there's constantly something dangling right there that wipes that away. Pause. You get what I'm saying. It's a flaw. It's a major flaw there where you see something right.

Can I answer the question? So my answer would be no. No? Even if they win, it's a no? No. Okay. My answer's no too, but he went somewhere else with the old shit. Like, I'm just not putting niggas above Nike. Like, niggas don't, you know, people are young enough, and these

YouTube videos or highlights that you see are not actually putting you in the time when this shit was going on. You know what I'm saying? You can sit there and go see some clips and be like, oh, Jordan did this and Jordan did that. You had to be there. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying younger people don't get it, but Jordan, like, oh, Jordan did this and Jordan did that. You had to be there. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying younger people don't get it, but

Jordan, like, basically, like, look, who got the best sneaker today? It ain't because he was a stylish nigga. And I don't say the Jordans ain't hot, but that came with the play. You felt like you could score 30 when you wore them Jordans.

I still do. I still feel like I scored 30 in no matter what sneakers I'm playing. I'm saying, but the Jordans back in the day, you put them Jordans on. I'm going to be honest with you. You know you better have a good game. I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't play in my Jordans because them shits was too expensive. I didn't want to fuck them up.

Like, I put my Jordans like fucking, you know, I remember my first pair of Jordans, I had to beg my grandparents for $100, and they was like, $100 pair of sneakers? You crazy? I'm like, now I gotta go ask the drug dealers because I'm getting the Jordans. You know what I'm saying? But 5.1 minutes to go, I can't do that. What I will say, he's my number two pours for

of all time. I'm not going with Macy's going with that. It is stats for this year. But what I will say this year... Stats don't matter. No, it matters. I'm not going to say they don't. But this is a stat that you did ignore this year. Which one?

19 years straight this year he made All-NBA. He's All-NBA third team this year. 19 years in a row he made. So besides his rookie year, 19 years in a row being All-NBA is fucking bananas. That's crazy. That's phenomenal. As a purist, I can acknowledge that. Thank you for being

a purist. My vision is pure. So as far as his stats this year, is he the best player in the NBA this year? No. I wouldn't say he's the best. Was it a time he ran that shit for a year? The nigga went to a championship in the Eastern Conference for 10 years straight. 10 years in a row. Then

he takes a chance to come to the West Coast because everybody says that the West Coast is better than the East Coast. Comes over here, wins a championship with the Lakers, whether it's an asterisk or not. The bubble. Yeah, but you know how much pressure it is to even go to the Lakers? Like, that's some shit

I don't know if I would have did. You gotta live up to Magic Johnston, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, all these people, and then everybody sits there and say, LeBron ain't gonna be a real Laker unless he wins a championship. Goes out and wins a championship, then people like Murda will say, well, it was in the bubble.

Then they have to fuck them, you know? No, if they win it this year, it's a real chip. I need a real chip in L.A. I'm an L.A. fan since birth. This shit going left. L.A. fan, this is wild, man. Anyway, let me finish saying what I was saying. The nigga, he gets to L.A., there's mad pressure on him.

He wins a chip, whether it's an asterisk, a bubble chip, whatever you want to call it, call it cool. These niggas go under.500 most of the season this year. They come back after the All-Star break, make it to the play-in. They didn't even make it all the way to the official playoffs, make it to the play-in, end up beating the defending champ. Beat John Morant in the first round that end up beating beating uh golden state the defending championship now they're in the western

conference finals so where people didn't even know if they was going to make the championship so i'm not seeing it for lebron this is a great stat where he's at because lebron has the equal championships for him but just because he's lebron but for them to be where they're at right now, considering the season that they started with, I think is good. Okay. Yeah, they finished really, the team did very well out there. Okay.

Well, y'all let us know in the comments if the Lakers win, if you guys will be willing to crown LeBron your GOAT. With that, we'll be... Everybody under 25 is going to say yeah, man. It'll be a good little debate in the comments, I think. But we'll see what y'all say. We'll be right back. She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe

She tired of hearing I don't know What's happening, me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust. But she really thinking about free. Why am I? Welcome back. OK, so also on the topic of the Lakers, power forward Jared Vanderbilt is being called out. Also on the topic of the Lakers, power forward Jared Vanderbilt is being called out.

Signing from the store, claimed he bought $2,000 worth of clothes, wore it to the tunnel and postgame, then returned it. What are your thoughts? What is that called when you do that? When you buy clothes and then you wear them and then you try to take them back. Bum-ass nigga shit. Ain't nothing else but a bum-ass. Petty theft.

Shit, it ain't really theft if you're taking it back. Yeah, I mean, what do they call it also? I don't know the official name. What is it when you do low-class robbery? Dang. Petty theft. Petty theft. Yeah, it's petty theft-ass niggas, man.

Where's this nigga from? I'm Googling where a nigga from behind this shit, man. What was the outfit he went out there? Did he buy it himself, or did he send in somebody to buy it for him? I think he bought it himself, because somebody from the store let him do the return, and they were like... Isn't he supposed to be like a fashion guy trying to build his fashion brand? Well, no, like he's just trying to be like... Like a fly nigga though.

Yeah. You from Houston. Yeah. Y'all did bad in Houston. Houston been striking out this year. Yeah, yeah. Now, shout out to my niggas down in Houston. But listen, man.

Yo, Jarrett, listen, man. Come to the flea guy. You won't get your money back, but I'll make sure that you get your shit together. And secondly, stop embarrassing us black people like that, my nigga. You put on a stick, you know what I mean? You put on a stick, you know what I mean? You put on a stick, you know what I mean? You put on a stick, you know what I mean?

You put on a stick, you know what I mean? You put on a stick, you know what I mean? You put on a stick, you know what I mean? You put on a stick, you know what I mean? You put on a stick, you know what I mean? You put on a your money back, but I'll make sure that you get your shit together. And secondly, stop embarrassing us black people like that, my nigga. You put a whole bad stamp on the black community behind that shit because we known for shit like that. He the reason they watch us in Neiman.

Yeah, that's the reason. He got people watching us in Neiman. He one of them niggas, let me guess it didn't fit. He one of them niggas, let me guess, it didn't fit. He one of them niggas. Listen, man, just don't embarrass us like that. Secondly. Tape under the shoes.

Second, you know, yeah, tape under the shoes. Tape under the shoes so you can't get that off. But the whole shit is this, though. That's a great question when you ask, or you ask who went for him because you 6'8", nigga, you can't hide. I know you not literally 6'8", 6'9", going to the going to store playing wear it to the you're on national tv in the tunnel in the tunnel do the press conference afterwards and then go back to the store and you don't even send a nigga talk

about your ain't work out hey yo now we're playing in the ladies wait a minute is this you yeah this was you last night look Shit looked like it worked out fine. Jared, you get paid too much, man. Spend a little couple dollars on your wardrobe, my nigga. That's sad. Yeah, it is. That's really sad. Also on the topic of younger, we'll say, sports stars, but not really,

Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes' little brother, Jackson Mahomes, was arrested and charged with battery and three counts of aggravated assault after allegedly grabbing and forcibly kissing a woman three times. He also pushed a restaurant employee and Mahomes is only 22 years old. What did he do again? He grabbed her three times? He grabbed the woman. Or grabbed her once and kissed her three times? I don't know how many times he kissed her, but i know he grabbed her and he was charged with three counts of aggravated assault my goodness where are the players when you need them my thing is there's a couple things i have on this on this topic first of all it's called entitlement people

feel entitled like my brother runs the world he's the best quarterback he can't believe Shane the fuck is you talking about you have dude you watch the last five fucking AMC championships give me a kiss bitch fuck is wrong with you bitch I'm on my home yo look at my D look at my hair I'm on my homes give me kiss fuck wrong with you that's the entitlement and I'm not promoting I'm just saying mentality who think they're entitled because they're somebody's family member or brother and football's the number one sport in america he's the number one in football just won another

super bowl does it make it right no but his 17 year old he's bugging and he's going to think that he doesn't know that that could cause him later on, but he just looks. I bet you he pulled out his ID 15 times. Yeah. Mahomes, bitch. He's living off the name. Mahomes, bitch. And this goes kind of back to,

it's nothing related to the Ja Morant situation, but it's also when family members will not necessarily get him in trouble, but if he cuts you off for a while, and he be like, look, I can't be bothered with you, nigga. You know what I'm doing. I can't be around no sexual assault.

Fuck, I look like I'm the number one nigga in football, and you got a sexual assault charge? Talk to mom. And if she got a problem with my car, see y'all at Thanksgiving, because I ain't got time to lose this motherfucking contract. Same thing with Andy Reid. They swept that shit under the rug.

A couple years ago when they went to the Super Bowl, Andy Reid's son, he's coaching, assistant coach on the Chiefs, was driving drunk and killed a three-year-old three days before the Super Bowl. He couldn't come to the Super Bowl. The case just gets sweeped under the rug.

Nobody heard about it since. Andy had to be like, he said what happened it happened in kansas city that's crazy so basically he was like you know we're not he's dismissed from the team publicly he cuts you off but who really knows you got friends politicians who this one story i never even thought that would happen. She got swept under the rug, but that's something to do some homework on. Family members, stop acting like you could throw touchdowns. Stop acting like you could dunk the ball.

Stop acting like you run fast. You are just a sibling that didn't make it yet or didn't make it at all. Cut the shit out, my nigga. Because your last name is Mahomes, don't mean you could run around grabbing ass, kissing bitches, anything else you got going on. Yeah, that's crazy. your last name is mahomes don't mean you could run around grabbing ass kissing or anything else you got going on yeah that's crazy period if if your brother can't do it your brother can't do

something why do you think you could do it little dumb i really think it's time to have tryouts yeah it's time to have trials for your entourage trials for your family oh yeah for your friends to get new people around new friends that'd be. That'd be crazy. That'd be crazy Yeah As a skit I need to try out some friends my nigga because friends and family is the ones who fuck you up more than anybody Else is everybody we've been talking about for the last two episodes is all the people around them facts. It's time to have trials There you go. Yeah, I'm to reevaluate a lot of things, but with that, we'll be right back. One eye, one heart, one love.

Excuse me. After last night performance, we're going to do this again? Not tonight. I don't think so. And make sure you close the door behind you. song I'm Rico fucking strong Baby I'm back Oh my god Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.

Oh hell no. Muchacho, levántate. Toma esto, bébetelo. Right now? Well, well cuñado. Well. Now, right now. Right now. Yeah. Welcome back. Okay, so this Saturday, May 20th, Lomachenko is set to fight the undefeated boxing champ, Devin Haney. Do you think he will keep his title? I Hope he knows

Haney got the title he got all of them. Yeah, I think he's going I think Haney He's really good. I Just and listen Loma Chanko was in this conversation for a minute He's really good. I just... And listen, Lomacheco was in this conversation for a minute. It was Lomacheco, Haney, Shakur, and Tank. Now, what I will say about Lomacheco is this.

He fucking left to go fight the war in the Ukraine. That nigga, when Russia and the Ukraine war broke out, he said everything and went like he was in the field he wasn't capping and nothing this thing out in the army with the president of the ukraine with the gun and all that and i'm like yo that's who really really loved their country so he put his whole boxing on pause to go fight with his country against

russia so he gets mad props for me i think he did that not to fight that haney that's some up my so you saying that rapper gonna get killed and fight a in the ring yeah you always want to you're tough you're tough man you tough dude i think he he he came at a convenient time you're a wild nigga, man. You know stuff like that happens. I'm not, nah, nigga, go get killed? I ain't not glad he did. A lot of niggas died. A lot of people died, so. No, I'm not making fun of no dying. No, no, no.

I'm saying when he put on the gear, he knew they wasn't going to put him front line. Yeah, I mean, he's like. And he preferred not to fight Haney. I'm not touching that. But I will say, he really did go and to the wall but like i agree with you may not be front line but he went like going is enough for me but as far as him beating haney i don't know he hasn't he hasn't been the ring long enough um which a man he lost

the homie that hard he lost the tiafmo and he looked really scared in that fight against team he looked like he didn't want to he didn't want to take that he did not want to get hit so his props went in the boxing world went down to me even though he moved up and wait to fight tfmo you knew you was moving up in weight it wasn't no surprise so for you to be that scared and not get hit he lost a lot of props to me. Plus, I've seen him get knocked down with a person in his weight class before he got up and beat his ass. But Lomacheco was, to me at the time,

he was up there. And I think because of his inactivity, he's moved down. But I think this is a good fight to get his name back. Will he win? I don't know. I think that you're about to answer. Yeah, they was calling him the Matrix. He had superior footwork. He was dancing class and all types he's always spinning around

people putting them in bad situations but i think when he lost the tiafemo because the way tiafemo beat him which is establishing the jab and keeping them behind the jab i don't know what he thinks devin haney is going to do right that's the's the same kind of fight that Devin Haney is going to fight, and Devin Haney will beat Tia Fimo. So if he lost to him, he's probably going to lose to him. Okay. So who's going to win? I'm going with Haney.

Okay. Not even a question. I'll take Murda's opinion on this. Like I said, it was just a time. If he buzzed Haney, like catch him clear, I don't know how Haney really responds to getting knocked down,

but like any boxer, but if it's just on skill, I got Haney. Okay. So also to add to that, I mean, Cam just listed, you know, I think about two fights

that he did lose, but when asked about the fight, Loma said, look, in my mind, I didn't lose any fight in professional boxing in my mind. So that's why I sleep very well in my mind. I'm still undefeated. I just saw him in the church burning candles talking about when he lost, he found himself. And then he come out with this nonsense.

Yeah. I was just rooting for you 10 seconds later in that age you can't do that my nigga like I said he came in with like a nine-in-one record so he lost early in his career and then he lost to Tia Fimo, so he has two professional losses. But you lost. Now, Floyd Mayweather can say in his mind, because that's a fact he never lost. That's a fact.

You lost, my nigga. But at the end of the day, I don't know what that's about, but he definitely have a couple losses. Yeah, what else is in his mind if he doesn't have a couple losses? Yeah, anything in his motherfucking mind, nigga. I can walk on water. Nigga, what the fuck is you talking about? That's in your mind. Yeah, what else is in his mind if he doesn't know? Yeah, anything in his motherfucking mind, nigga. I could walk on water. The nigga fuck is you talking about? That's in your mind. Yeah, do it.

Yeah, but on, look, what's in your mind and what's on the stats say two losses, nigga. That's two different things. Your mind ain't on the stat sheet when niggas introduce you and be like, and from the Ukraine, with 37 wins and two, don't say zero zero losses in his mind Now the analysis would be hilarious. They can have zero losses in his mind. Nah, that's a fact. They don't read it like that. Now that I'm thinking about it, it's a few boxes that have no losses in their mind.

Yeah, that's a fact. I know a few came to mind when you said that. Right, exactly. Okay, well, and speaking of in his mind, we're going to move to Howard Stern That's a fact. I know a few came to mind when you said that. Right. Exactly. Okay. Well, and speaking of in his mind, we're going to move to Howard Stern because in his mind, he says he was upset because black players ignore him at Knicks games. He said, the black players won't come over and say hello to me, but they go over to Spike Lee. I grew up in a black neighborhood. You know what I mean?

I mean, they should know, but I get ignored. The nigga put nah mean I grew up in the black neighborhood. I grew up in the black hood. Isn't that what people say when they cavern? Yeah, but... Like, I got these friends, or I grew up here. Yeah, yeah. I got four black friends. My maid is black. Yeah.

That type of shit. That dumb shit, exactly. Look, let me tell you something, Howard Stern. I'm going to look at you in the camera. Howard, I know who you are. Murder knows who you are. Let tell you something, Howard Stern. I'm going to look at you in the camera. Howard, I know who you are. Murder knows who you are. Yeah. Let me even better talk to you.

We love Howard Stern. I don't give a fuck about Howard Stern. You can love him. I could care less about him. Let me ask that. Do you know who Howard Stern is over the bottle? What do you know him from? Well, I know that he does interviews now, and I think he was a judge on something.

She said you was a judge. Like on a game show or something like that. This is what I'm trying to say. I'm trying to say that he's a judge. He's a judge. He's a judge. He's a judge. He's a judge. He's a judge. He's a judge. He's a judge. he was a judge on something. She said you was a judge.

Like on a game show or something like that. This is what I'm trying to do. So back to what I was saying Howard. Yeah. Me and Murda know who you are. People staff baby age think you a judge my nigga. So when you got these NBA players that come on speak to Spike Lee, Spike Lee is almost no disrespect to Spike is almost like a mascot. Everybody knows that he's speak to Spike Lee. Spike Lee is almost, no disrespect to Spike,

is almost like a mascot. Everybody knows that he's a Spike Lee fan. Same thing like- Like the gorilla at Phoenix. I ain't gonna call Spike a gorilla. Not a gorilla. Something real black exploitation shit you got going on. When I say that, he's a well-figured master squiggler. Spike, we not calling you no gorilla. You said mascot. Well, I said, let me use a better word because I love that.

He's a well-known figure, master squiggler. Same way E-40's a well-known figure at Golden State. So you may not know Spike Lee's movies or anything like that, but you know he's a Knicks fan if you're a younger person. So what I'm telling you, Howard, is this. People know Spike not necessarily because of his movies,

because that nigga's front row every time. When they mention the Knicks, they don't really bring you up. Now keep in mind, everybody that's playing is 23, 24, 28, 29, 30. Niggas don't know you. You got to reinvent yourself to do some shit to get young black people that know you, my nigga. Because all that grew up with black people, all they're going to say, oh, you know my grandma.

You ain't grow up with these black people just playing on the court. These are some different, this is a different generation. So you have to do something so the stat babies of the world don't think you a fucking judge, my nigga. They don't know you. I know you. She didn't know Will Smith rapped. I knew that. No, you didn't.

Yes, I did. You did. But my son ain't know. But the point is, why the fuck would nigga know Howard Stern if you don't listen to talk radio and stuff like that? These kids, and not just kids, I don't know the last time I turned the radio on. It's too many different things to listen to. You can listen to fucking Pandora or Tidal or fucking Apple Music or whatever you want to listen to. So why would they listen to you?

So you have to do something to get people's attention and make them reinvent themselves there you go reinvent yourself they don't know you white just say you grew up with all the black you want my they do not know you if you did it was they grandmother and you probably was talking slick yeah he definitely was talking crazy howard stern had some of the wow his issues. Nah, his shit was crazy. That's why I said we grew up loving Howard Stern. Yeah, yeah. Nah, on some G shit, I fuck with Howard Stern. Howard Stern was one of them people.

He was the first one that I remember saying it just how. Yeah, absolutely. It was one of them shits where my grandmother wouldn't let me watch Howard Stern. Like, turn that shit off. Because he would have girls with titties. He would curse. He would say whatever the fuck he wanted to say. What's it called?

Shock radio. He was the first shock jock. Yeah, exactly. Move on. Just to touch on your point, because these are both really good points. And no disrespect to Howard Stern at all. But like you were saying, like... You got to grow up.

You got to grow up. You got to grow up. Come on, be professional. Basically to touch on both of y'all's points, just so they get it too. I'm cheesy and bummed doing that shit. I didn't even say nothing. He gonna turn. Yeah, it's that. My bad.

No, just because I want to touch on your point so they understand as well. Like you said, reinventing yourself in this day and age to like, okay, Will Smith, great example. We know what he does now. And even if you didn't, you're watching what he does. You're going to go back and see what he did before so we know the timeline and what he does.

Howard Stern is kind of like, the best. Exactly. I agree. Look, but no disrespect. But keep it professional. Disrespect, nigga. The best examples of reinventing their self and just off the top of my brain I'd fucking watch break into an ice tea is the DJ that came out like 1983 ice cube is not

part of me I see I apologize was the DJ and that shit I turned a commercial this morning I see he's on the commercial yeah he's on law and order he's in this movie LL Cool J yeah he was in fucking crush groove in 1984 when I was fucking six or seven, eight years old, and now he's on CSI every day. And hosting the iHeartRadio Awards and stuff like that. And then you go back and you're like, okay, I know these songs. Like, it connects.

Dr. Dre with beats. Like, yo, it's people you constantly reinvent in yourself, and it's not always what got you in the game, but at the end of the day, you use what got you in the game to brand off and do other things. And if Howard Stern, if you got some headphones or some sneakers or some shit we don't know about, hey, let the people know, because I don't know what else the fuck you do besides say you used to live next to black people and you was what murder called you. Yeah, and everybody's shocking now

okay well all good points we'll be right back she called this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening, me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust

But she really thinkin' bout it She wanna be free Why am I in this woman's way? She wanna be free Hell, I don't wanna see her walk away I wish somebody told me the rules. Disagreements let them win, and it's cool. Even when I'm right, this ain't about you.

Welcome back. Okay, so we're going to switch over to football. Cam Newton last played for the Carolina Panthers in 2021. He claims his hairstyle may have kept him from being signed to an NFL team. He said people have hinted at his appearance and said, Cam, we want you to go back to the 2015 clean-cut Cam. He countered with names of white quarterbacks who have long hair and still have jobs.

What are your thoughts? Did he say, do you got the names or you don't know? He didn't. All right, we'll get to it. We know the names he's stating. Yeah. My opinion on that, listen, I'm a Cam Newton fan. I want she get back in the NFL.

Once she out, she out. It's pretty hard. You ask Kaepernick, you ask Donovan McNabb. Once you a black quarterback. Michael Vick. Yeah, Michael Vick. Once you a black quarterback, it's hard to get back. The one nigga from Seattle bounced back, Geno Smith.

But you have to be willing to be a backup quarterback to get a starting job. And I don't know if Cam's personality is a backup quarterback personality. I'm not saying he wouldn't do it. But as far as what I will say is this, when you're good, it don't matter what you wear. It don't matter what your hairstyle look like.

I think that Cam was one of the, not saying one of the first, but he was such a dual threat because yes same way Lamar Jackson now could run with the ball past the ball that's the same thing Cam Newton was doing he was Cam Newton's a he's like six six two hundred you know he's a big guy horse I know you want to be I'm not feeding it to you I know y'all think I know it no just go ahead be professional thank you thank you all I'm not doing it. I know y'all think. I know it. No, just go ahead. Be professional.

Thank you. Thank you, bro. All right. But the moral of the story is I think if you're good and you're accurate, I think a lot of people started questioning his accuracy throwing the ball. And when he got to New England, I don't think he got a fair shake because it was COVID. He caught COVID.

He had Mac Jones in the background just coming out of college. I don't know, but I don't think it had nothing to do with his hair. I just think if you're good, you can wear what you want to wear and do what you want to do. I just think that your throwing was inaccurate and people picked up on it. But I'm rooting for you to get back. Me too. I'm rooting for him to get back. I don't know if it's going to happen, but I'm rooting for it.

Do you think it was his hair, though? I think his hair does play a part in it. I think the places he's gone, like when you go to that kind of facility and that kind of team, they're looking at your image. They already had Tom Brady. You coming in after Brady. You got your hair all crazy. It's something black people got to pay attention to. You're going after a clean cut guy you come in with your hair all while you're not producing and when you're not producing and you look wow right it's even crazier it's almost like john moran after that and then he

jumps over somebody and fall now he looks wow wild. It went from athletic to wild. Right, right. Your image matters. It does. It does, but I actually kind of disagree. Because even in NBA stands, Jimmy Butler's done a lot of crazy, quote-unquote, crazy things with his hair.

Nobody's like... Like I said, me and Murda... Yeah, but he doesn't choke people. But what I will say is that I agree with Murda to a certain extent, but back to my original statement was, when you're good, it don't matter. Which you're right, yeah. When you're good, it don't matter.

Let Patrick Mahomes have the same shit that fucking Cam Newton got. He's going to be able to wear whatever the hell he wants to wear. As a matter of fact, they may come to him and be like, hey, man, we want to sponsor dreadlocks. You know what I'm saying? That's true. No, we want to sponsor dreadlocks. You know what I'm saying? That's true. No, I'm saying that is true. But when it goes wrong, the look matters even more.

That's just so frustrating. You get what I'm saying? So you're right in that sense. I agree with him. When you were right, you could wear your hair in a bun seven feet high just with all dreadlocks. But when a car gets pulled over and the gun is in it and you got locks like this, then everybody's looking at you like you're ignorant and you're a thug.

And what you did say is about producing that matters. Yeah. Like, you know, not to, you know, God bless the devil, I'm just going to bring it up because it's not like it's a secret. When Kobe caught the rape case, and I'm not gonna bring it up because it's not like this. It's a secret when Kobe caught the rape case And I said he raped a girl anything just when he caught a case Kobe went out there had to ball his ass off Yeah, fucking Kobe's after about 72 points cause that's the year Kobe scored 81 niggas like I bet I'm a bust niggas ass This nigga's trying to put and not saying that that case was sudden to sweep under the rug anything I've been a guy handle guy handle but it got to the point where he was busting ass so much that you'd be like well when they gonna throw that

out because kobe is needed let kobe at average nine points with a rape case yeah yeah with the court thing so it is about producing that that is the reality so i guess we'll just have to see what happens for him next because i don't know. I want to put something on the record because we like to be accurate for the young athletes that are looking. The greats don't wear their hair like that. Just think about it. Not that LeBron has the hair, but Michael Joy and all of the people that are greats, they don't wear their hair like that.

That's what I tell the youth. That's a new generation. That Listen, this is a new generation Mm-hmm. I think a whistle name won't get this Lamar Jackson shit nappy old goddamn day Just got 260 with the nappy shit. Yeah, that's true dumb nappy shit 260 Speaking of the youth Ronnie James officially committed to USC. I just want to know, did y'all expect him to go there? I didn't expect him to go there, but I'm not surprised. I actually thought he was going to go to Ohio State.

I do. But at the end of the day, Pops is running the show, and he's monopolizing, and he got a vision. We keep him home in California. I'm in the Lakers we keep you in California mama Duke is here my mom's here your brother's here stay the here you go to I don't know the conversation but I can imagine the conversation what's my son's role here yeah is he starting is he getting 17 shots a game is it going to be a problem if he goes five for 26. we

need to know all this because we have a bigger plan and who else is coming here. Right exactly. But I think he's on a one-year plan anyway, no matter where he went because like I said LeBron wants to play against or with his son either way. So I think it's great. I think that that's the one thing I say he's goaded on. Yeah, Michael Jordan wish he had this blueprint with his son's Mike. This is the blueprint. Mike. What do you I say he's golden on Michael Jordan wish he had this blueprint with his son. This is the blueprint Michael Jordan.

What he wanted with his sons. Michael Jordan's sons ain't paying out. LeBron James, because I like Bryce too. Yeah, I like Bronny and Bryce to do well. I think the situation is perfect. They're pairing him with Isaiah Collier. Remember the guard that I said was before him? No, who is that? He was the number one player with DeJuan Wagner. They kept going, DJ Wagner, they kept going

back and forth out of Atlanta, Georgia. I didn't know about that. Yeah, so they're pairing him up and Dennis Rodman Jr. is coming there. They got the pops talking, all the fathers putting this shit together. Yeah, everybody talking. These kids don't even know how they're going. They always sit and set up. It's going to be a perfect, perfect school for Bronny.

I only see them having trouble with Kentucky. That'll be a great game. That's the game to watch. Yeah. Well, also to touch on Can's point, and kind of like you said, just about being in California, we've talked a lot about how young athletes are acting to keep them in California.

I'm sure LeBron's going to make sure Bronny's tightened up. If he's out of state and were to do anything crazy, it would be a lot harder to kind of have that grasp. But he can check on him, make sure he's coming home. Yeah, and it's great that they're going to USC, so he's going to actually be going to school in the hood. Yeah, the whole shit is, Bronny already got caught smoking weed one time one morning.

Yeah. And Bron, like, I wish you would get out of state. You would stay in here because obviously you can't be trusted by this. Ohio State would have been crazy. Yeah, yeah. Living in that big house and going to college. That's what I'm saying. It would have been party central. Listen, big house and going to college. That's what I'm saying. It would have been party central.

Listen, man. Ron did his thing. I lived in Columbus, man. That kid would have ran that whole town, man. That's a good one. Keep them home and keep them grounded until we get to that real bad. Right. Real smart.

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