IT IS WHAT IT IS - Episode 20 #ITISWHATITISTALK

Episode Date: July 23, 2023

SCOTTIE PIPPEN CALLS MICHAEL JORDAN A HORRIBLE PLAYER...

I said it's only one. Oh, he ain't got it. He ain't got it. We done heard his tongue. Welcome back to another episode of It Is What It Is. I'm Treja Wilson, a.k.a. Stat Baby, along with your hosts Cam and Mace. Summertime already, huh? You doing something already? You should have told me, nigga. I would have came in here and tiki'd out too, nigga. We doing summertime already. Let's do it.

I was on the beach tanning. Nah, I ain't mad. Listen, it's definitely almost summertime, man. This might be the last suit of the summer. Until fall, man. I like that, though. Yeah. I like that, man.

Yeah. Go ahead, man. You feeling good? Nice little touch. Okay. So we're coming in hot. Scotty Pippen is blasting Michael Jordan. Scottie made a statement saying Jordan was a horrible player.

He said, you guys have seen him play. He was a horrible player. He was horrible to play with. It was all one-on-one shooting, bad shots. What do you think about Scottie's statement? Scottie is wild. Scottie, check it out, Scottie. You're going way overboard, Scotty.

You're making it obvious that Mike's son being with your wife is getting to you. I'm going to let Killer go, and then I'm coming back to you. It's just mind-boggling to think that you are this messed up over Michael Jordan's son. I don't even think it's that deep pause. I think it's the same thing which you were just about to say. This has nothing. This is not basketball related. Yeah, Mike has nothing to do with this.

He's making it basketball related. But this has nothing to do with basketball. This is all about a niggas son Boning his baby mother and now we're making it into basketball If you watch the is what it is page to follow our page on Instagram We have all the old footage up there of him begging Michael Jordan to come back and play with him when he took the two years Oh, yeah, when his sneaker came up and Scottie was like this

saying Mike, come back. Mike, please come back. You got Charles Oakley slapping him up for disrespecting Michael Jordan, grabbing him all up. I think this has nothing to do with basketball. To me, it's not even a lot to talk about because it's like if it made

sense, then yeah, but that's always going to be a debate whether LeBron is better than Michael Michael better than LeBron this has nothing to do with that and if he keeps it up one of the LeBron sons might I mean, you know, they count on me to tell the truth. They count on me. I'm telling you, they count on me to tell the truth. I got to tell the truth. You keep it up, Scottie, and she going to end up with one of the Jameses. And then LeBron ain't going to be shit. Yeah, then he going to be saying LeBron ain't good.

LeBron ain't really good be shit. Yeah, then he's going to be saying LeBron ain't good. LeBron ain't really good. The best player is the Joker. That's really the best player. Now, if you had to fucking win a LeBron, son, he ain't going to be the best player. The Joker going to be the best player. Scotty, look. Look, Scotty, I'm going to be honest with you. A lot of niggas fuck up, man.

You know what I'm saying? A lot of niggas get you. Niggas lose it. Your pull-out game pause is weak. You know what I'm saying? lot of niggas getting is losing your pull-out game pause is weak if this didn't work out you had the kids you know motherfucking future he got out there future now future my man he got a few kids yeah she ain't catch future she tried to catch future slipping she ain't catch future you know she gonna catch Mike Jr. look like she might look like she might catch him that's what's really gonna hurt she gonna get some joys after all

that's gonna hurt if your baby mother got a joy and baby yeah that's if your baby mother got a joy and baby so your bro so your son brother brother is Dennis Jordan. We got to chill. We got to chill. I'm just saying. We got to chill. I don't know his kid's name, but you got, let's say you got Leonard Pimper and Dennis Jordan and y'all brothers. Yeah.

Like, what's that? Yeah. Larissa, you L, my nigga. You an L one. Larissa is an L one. Because trust me, I think Mike is smart enough to have a talk with his son. Yeah. Like, yo, strap up.

You know what she's about. But she seems like she pretty much knows what she's doing. I think a baby going to come out of this. Oh, yeah. I mean, they're going everywhere together. Yeah. And I saw one time when Pippen had the ball. He threw the ball back, and it went in from Paul's.

He threw the ball up from the three-point line backwards and he scored it. And then he said, I still got it. And the comments went crazy. What is he talking about, though? I don't even know what that means. He thought he killed it because he threw it up. He threw it up. Yo, look.

And he said he still got it. And then he probably said, all right. Well, you don't got a lot of it. You don't got it. Obviously, you don't got it. You know what picture I see? I see the picture. Oh, man.

I see the picture of Mike's son. And we love you, Pippen, but you're wildin', Pippin. I don't love you. I don't know you from nowhere, man. I ain't gonna sit and act like I love you. I know all these niggas on here I talk about that I love. I got love for certain things. I don't know you. I'm gonna be honest with you. He aging bad off this shit, too. His skin

is starting to get craters and shit. This shit is fucking him up. He's aging bad off this. The picture that I did see, though... You trying to follow Future getting his hair braided. That ain't working because his skin ain't right. He got to get facial pores. He got to do something because this shit is not right. I know, I know, I know.

That was fucked up. I know y'all going to get me, but pause. His skin is fucked up. The picture I did see, though, was him and Larissa and the Michael George shit in the background. They was in some event. And I'm like, why are they gonna pick anywhere to take the picture at? But they took the picture in back of this shit.

They doing shit out of spite at this point. Because I think now's at the point like, you know where to get a man? Let's take a picture in front of this. Scotty, listen. And the ex is always gonna want to do that. Yeah, they want to be spiteful, but at the end of the day, you got to know

who you're having kids with, too. Sometimes you don't know, but this was kind of obvious. Marcus Jordan, we're praying for you. Stay focused. Okay, so I also got to ask, do you all think that Scotty

always making comments on Michael Jordan, do you think that messes up his legacy, or you think it's okay for him to keep saying something like that? No, eventually it is, because this happens a lot in hip hop, but now we're seeing it in sports.

A lot of times you hear people giving their commentary and their commentary is not truthful. It's always based around some hate or some girl somewhere in the equation. And it's sad to see them go out like that, being they have so legacy Winning three peat and twice know many other teams haven't even done that But every time he goes out and say something stupid It makes it harder to look back at those championships and see him as the focal point that it was See the thing about it is we were around to know the legacy of Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen Like step may not even know it. She knows it cuz she's step about it is we were around to know the legacy of Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. Like, Stapp may not even know it.

She knows it because she's Stapp. I'm saying, see, a lot of people, when it comes to, like, Michael Jordan and LeBron comparisons, a lot of people be like, yo, it's no conversation. LeBron is better than Mike. I don't care what nobody says. And what happened with Mike is not just the stats. It was a feeling in the air. Pause. It was like, yo, Mike's playing tonight. You know nobody else can win.

It doesn't matter what you show. Nobody can win. Nobody can win. It wasn't even... You get a pass if you didn't get a championship in that era because you get to say, I played in the Mike era. Right. Like even when LeBron plays, it doesn't matter what team he's on they

might lose well Mike plays in the championship you know you know he's not losing like not gonna win so it was a it's just a lot of shit that Mike did so a lot of people don't get younger kids don't get the grasp of what's going on joy and Jamma it's every day everybody does it they lean and dunk sideways nobody was doing the kiss the rim sideways yeah yeah you know a lot of stuff mike did game on the line close his eyes shoot free throw and better nigga fifty thousand dollars why he's shooting the free throw so it was a lot of shit outside of stats that people love from michael joy scotty know that shit and like i said all this shit is just

outside of basketball answer your question does this fuck his legacy up? I would say yes, because people look at it, we're in the everywhere. For instance, let's say for instance, right? Mase sold millions of records. I sold millions of records. Executive produced millions of records. So you go on YouTube and type our name in, I bet you right now no music pop up to show a pop up

or something else to pop up so the the music not saying people don't with it but right now if the first thing you type our name in and this pop-up yeah this is what's going on now we'll get to the music later you know what i'm saying so it could potentially so this keeps popping up as the first thing you see in scotty pippen you're not going to get into this three-peat twice. Right. Exactly.

If you type in Scottie Pippen's name right now, this Michael Jackson. Your future might come up. Yeah, exactly. And that's not good. Exactly. That's not good, especially if you're in the top 50 players. Right. Exactly.

To ever play the game. Yeah, you type Scottie's name in, ain't no basketball shit coming up right now. His son don't even come up and his son made the lakers this is crazy no people got to understand as parents you could you could defame your kids with your actions that's what you're doing scotty you need to chill out scotty your son trying to make the lakers play on the lakers do big things for itself and you're and you're you're slowing them up with this l of thing you gotta let that go get a new one get somebody battered in her the whole shit is is he's slowing up or is she slowing them

up or they slowing them up together she might be slowin because at the end of the day no she's slowing him up. Because at the end of the day. No, she ain't slowing him up. He's letting her slow him up. No, what I'm saying at the end of the day, she's a distraction. Yeah. She come to the game, it's what Michael Jordan said, and it's your mother.

It's an automatic distraction. Exactly. Because now the cameras is, yo, get him. Or now you got paparazzi giving him. They're not focusing on the game. Yeah. This is the shit. Like, mom, could you stay home? stay home yeah i'm coming to support i'm coming to the game you bring it you bring in marcus yeah i'm bringing marcus this is now that's that's that's what

they're focusing on i have a hard time just trying to believe that that she didn't know mike i don't want to harp on this but it's kind of hard to believe that she didn't know Mike. I don't wanna harp on this, but it's kinda hard to believe that she didn't know Mike. What you mean didn't know him? Know him, no. She make it seems as if they didn't know, she didn't get to know, their family didn't know each other like that. Gotcha.

And they was too successful to not know each other. Absolutely. Well, let's get off that. Let's get off that. Well, all good points. Let us know what you guys think in the comments. We'll get off that. Let's get off that. Well, all good points. Let us know what you guys think in the comments. We'll be right back. When I tell you When I tell you

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Right now? Well, well, puñal. Okay. Well. Now, right now. Right now. Yeah. Welcome back. Okay, so we got some news on Shannon Sharp.

Shannon Sharp and Fox Sports, the parent company of FS1, which airs Undisputed, have reached a buyout agreement. Shannon Sharp's last show is reportedly after the 2023 nba finals but my question is are you surprised i'm still thinking about scotty pippen dress what you think made him get them dressed killer future What you think made him get them dreads, killer? Future. Dirty Sutton in the styrofoam. And the man running NASA.

That's the only thing. Free bands. Free bands. You can say that. And then the March Madness. 35 on the dashboard. So I do Future Scooter. What up, man?

That's the only thing I can see. Because maybe he going through a midlife crisis. That can only be Scotty about 60. Yeah, he's too late for the midlife. You having an afterlife. You having one of them choices. I don't know what made him do it, man. Yo.

And we not trolling you, Scotty. We just not tolerating no cap up here. It is what it is. Tolerates no cap. That's that, bro. And it is what it is. Yeah, it is what it is. I got it. That's crazy, man.

But back to Shannon Sharp. I think Shannon Sharp would do well here. Shannon, you definitely got a home here yo listen my nigga come to is what it is nigga you know how much bread we get and you could be you cuz we being us yeah yo shit would be well my nigga telling you I know you got club Shay Shay and I know you're not just reaching the buyout without certain else locked up but think about it my nigga it makes mad say yeah mad sense we get we give him and Michael Irvin we can get on now we get Mike Irvin nigga go he needs a quarter key

we get a quarter to your life we should have caught a key up in nigga Mike you could come right up here like I'll. Our shit pure. We need Miami shit right off the water nigga. Every Monday nigga you be lined up come fuck with us. We'll make sure you right. We'll pay you in cash and cocaine nigga. Mike I ain't in on that. Don't act like niggas don't know what Mike like to do. Niggas know what Mike like to do. He like bitches and cocaine. Whatever you want.

But we do need you, Mike Poise. We love you up here. But we know your habits. You're more than welcome to come up. Now, if you're clean, that'd be great, too. We would love to have you. But him and Shannon would be a great idea. But what I was going to say originally is,

I think that relationship with him and Skip was over the time. After that football player from Buffalo, yeah, Hammond. Yeah, fell out on them. Fell out, and Skip was so cold-hearted about it. And Shannon took the day off, and then when Shannon came back, he went crazy. And Skip tried to be like, man, calm down. Put your damn glasses on. You acting crazy.

Kind of sunshining out. And I don't think that ever been repaired. Kwame Brown and Shannon Sharp is beefing last week. Did you see that? No, I didn't see it. Oh, yeah. Shannon Sharp. So Shannon Sharp and Kwame Brown was having big internet beef last week

because Kwame Brown dissed LeBron for his performance. Yeah, you can't say nothing about LeBron to Shannon. So basically he was dissing LeBron, so Shannon got on the show and said, what the fuck wrong with Kwame, man? Kwame out his motherfucking mind. He said, Kwame's on the Mount Rushmore, a bus, pause, in the NBA. He said, Sam Bowie. Yeah, I know.

That ain't going well for Kwame. Sam Bowie, Kwame and some other names. He said he's on the Mount Rushmore. He said, how are you talking about this and King James? So then Kwame Brown comes back and starts saying, you country ass fool. Start talking about him. Start going crazy. You know Kwame goes crazy too. And then what he said is, he said, you like that white man sun you out up there.

Tell you put your glasses back on and all this crazy shit. You ain't he said is, he said, you like that white man sun you out up there till you put your glasses back on and all this crazy shit. You ain't nothing but a pawn on that show. And this happened after that? This happened last week and this week,

Shannon is getting a buyout. So Kwame might have won. Yeah, Kwame might have got won. In the streets, Kwame won. Yeah,

that's what I'm saying. So as soon as that happened, next week, Shannon's getting bought out because what I think is Shannon's hearing a bunch of backlash from, yo, Skip running the show. Skip, you hotter than Skip. You know what I'm saying?

I don't know. You might be hotter than Skip right now. You don't even need Skip, nigga. You helping Skip. Yeah, what you still there for? You know, you get in the right barbershop. That's what they telling them. That's a fact.

You helping Skip. That's a fact. You'll make that money whether you with Skip or not. And I think that's exactly where Shannon is at. I think Shannon already has something lined up. I don't think he's that dumb to make an irrational decision and just be like, I'm leaving. He can reach the buyout. But before he reached the buyout, he done had his meetings, talked to whoever he talked to.

And I think when football season starts this year, he'll make a big announcement in the summertime, but I think he'll have something going on to where it'll be his show and somebody else will be a part of it. Still got a home here, nigga, if you want, my nigga, but I think that's what's going to happen. That's my opinion. Yeah. Good points.

Okay, so what do you think this means for Skip? I don't know if this is really a good thing for Skip because Skip is, you know, he's another, he's not Howard Stern. We was talking about Shock Radio and they said that crazy shit the other day called Howard Stern, that thing. But on a serious note, Skip is one of them people too who say stuff to irk you. Yes. Says stuff just to get you mad. I don't even believe half the time he believes the shit that he says. Sometimes he does, but sometimes it's more or less to get you mad. I don't even believe half the time he believes the shit that he says. Sometimes he does, but sometimes it's more or less to get you mad.

You got to realize he got Jalen Rose out of character. Jalen Rose had to call him water gun, pistol, Pete, and all that. What's my nigga name who went to Stanford? Cornerback. What's the cornerback? Richard Sherman. He got Richard Sherman go up there, get on character. Terrell Owens been up there on several occasions

and cursed niggas out. I think Skip likes getting under people's skin. And for him, I think that he has a great platform. So I think that he'll find somebody to be his co-host, but it's about who wants to be his co-host. Because if you got a nigga with some money already, he'd be like, what the fuck I really need you for? I think it was a time when Stephen A was talking about getting back with Skip.

But right now it's too late. Yeah, I think they got Mad Dog up there. The dude Mad Dog be on the show. He's kind of like a Skip a little bit. But I don't know. The great question is what does this mean for Skip? Terrell Owens would be good for him. I like that.

I like that for Skip. Terrell Owens would be good. I like that. I like that a lot. Yeah, there's got to be somebody. See, the thing. Terrell Owens will be good. I like that. I like that a lot. I like that. See, the thing about Terrell Owens, though, not to cut you off, Terrell Owens, and listen, Terrell, let me be first to tell you, because me and my

man, Sin, argue about this all day. With Terrell Owens, got to stop doing his thing. He getting back in the NFL. Terrell could play in the league right now. Yeah, that's what Sin says. Sin always argues.

I'm not saying he's not in shape to, but nobody's picking you up, Terrell. You're not getting the shot. You ain't see two years ago when A.B. left the field in Tampa Bay in the middle of the game. And remember A.B. got kicked out? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Terrell always got to say,

you can put me in right now. Right now you can put me in. I'm like, Terrell, I'm ready. He said, Terrell, you can put me in right now. Right now you can put me in. I'm like, Terrell, they're not picking you. I'm not saying you're not in shape to do it, but you're 50. They're not putting nobody in shape. A 50-year-old wide receiver is just not going to do it. Is just not going to do it. So basically, if Terrell, I think he would have a great career in media,

but he's still thinking he's going to get a shot in football. And so he's working out like a mad dog every day, running 28 miles, doing squats, doing bench press, all this. Yo, Rel, they not coming to get you, bro. Yeah, they ain't coming to get you. They not, bro. Listen, I'm telling you as a friend. I don't know you. They're not.

I'm not saying you're not in shape to do it. Your age says they're not coming to get you, bro. Only person who pulled shit off at your age that was good was Bernard Hopkins. Now, if you want to go fight and all that, see if that works for you. Outside of that, NFL ain't fucking with you. And his past history doesn't allow people to even do that if they wanted to. That's a great point as well. You're a head case.

You're crazy. You're a virus to the locker room. You split locker rooms up. You went in there, first year in Philly, you got niggas arguing. McNabb ain't throwing it to niggas. Y'all fuck with McNabb. You know what I'm saying? You're a virus in the locker room.

And that's going to make people not want to fuck with you either. Even with Tony Romo. He said Tony Romo keep passing to Jason Witten too much. You split locker rooms up when you go to teams. And taking those pom-poms and going to the middle of the field. I like that part, though. That was funny. Yeah.

He did that when he was with the 49ers. Yeah, but that ain't funny no more. Yeah, you right about that because he's 50. I don't even think that's it. You're just 50. That's not funny no more yeah you right about that because he's 50. i don't even think that's it you're just not funny no more well once shannon leaves they are gonna lose a lot of viewers so we'll be interesting to see who will be shannon's replacement and i'm curious to see too so let us know in the comments we'll be right back She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting

Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening to me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust. But she really thinking about us. She wanna be free. Welcome back.

The Celtics lost to the Miami Heat in Game 7, allowing the Heat to advance to the NBA Finals. What were your thoughts on that game? Boston just collapsed. Everything about Boston just showed that this is not a team you can keep together. They shot poorly. Jason Tatum faded away. It was just a whole debacle, the whole thing.

It was crazy. Even the coaching was horrible to me. I didn't see nothing good about the game. Jimmy took over and made it just his series pretty much. Let me ask you, I have a few things to say about this. You know what my man asked me? I was in Vegas the other day. Yo, so if Boston would have won, would it have been a reverse sweep?

Yeah. Because they was down 0-3s in there. That was a great question. That would have been a reverse sweep. Shout out to Slug. That was a great question. Yeah. It's a lot of things.

Look, first of all, with Boston, it's this. That was a great question. Yeah. It's a lot of things. Look, first of all, with Boston, it's this. They're saying let's split up Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. They have to do that. They're both under 27 years old.

They both have a lot of time left. I think before this series started, before the playoffs started, I was talking to an NBA friend of mine, I'm going to say, and I say I don't trust Boston. Yeah. Just when it comes down to it, I don't trust them. Why? I have no logic behind it, but I think when it's big-time moments, I don't trust Boston. That's just me.

They have young players. You got Jalen Brown, who's 26. Jason Tatum's not 28, 27, 26, whatever he is. I thought Brogdon was a great addition. Al Hoffer plays great. Williams is great on the boards. Something's just there that isn't right. If they had a Jimmy Butler, a veteran on their team,

I think that that's what they're missing, a veteran player. I don't know if you split the team up, but what I would say is I wouldn't pay Supermax to either one of those. I may want them at a reduced rate. Now, if you want to go on the market and check your value out in other teams because you want to get to Supermax, go do it. You're scheduled to get $295 million if you stay here, Jalen Brown. I got $200 for you.

This series costs you $95 million. If you want to stay here. If you don't, we understand that. Jason Tatum, he still has another year, so we'll visit conversation you'll pay tatum the money he's he's he's acting for he has another year until it's time to get it jalen brown's contract is coming up right now tatum has another year to prove itself but what i'm saying is neither one of them deserve what they need to do because they're still i mean what they're supposed to get because they're still young but y'all at the age to where not the age y'all your first team nba two years in a row jason tatum they're supposed to get because they're still young but y'all at the age to where not the age

y'all your first team nba two years in a row jay jason tatum they're 20 what 26. this is the year mike start you know yeah getting the championships getting it done yeah this is true but the problem is these getting way more money than michael john anybody else get that's that's the whole problem do you it's not about boston keeping them and trying to figure out, it's do you pay them this amount of money? Yeah, I wouldn't pay them that much. Yeah, I wouldn't give either one of them that amount of money. I'd be like, y'all got to understand.

And even if you bring in a veteran, where do you put the veteran on that team who plays less? Right. I mean, it doesn't have to be. Because if they're not playing, these are the type of players they might not respect the person who's not producing. I mean, it doesn't have to be... Because if they're not playing, these are the type of players they might not respect the person who's not producing. I understand completely. Gary Coleman.

Absolutely. It doesn't have to be anybody in their position. Like, for instance, you got Al Hartford as a veteran, but is he a leader? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He's not necessarily a leader. He's a good player, but you need somebody who's a leader. And I'm not going to say Chris Ball because he hasn't won anything. Yeah, I think the veteran has to be somebody who got a ring. Right, exactly.

Because then they can tell you, this is how you prepare for this weekend. This is what you should do the next three days. Absolutely. And they don't have that, obviously. Right. I think they're young enough, you put them together, you just don't supermax them out until further notice. I think the coach did a great

job uh motivating him he did the great motivator when he was down three zero yeah he came in and took all of the blame and made it easier for them to come back and play absolutely and he wasn't even on the main bench last year he was in the second row secondly you know how he's not losing his job and i'm not saying he didn't do this so I don't want people take this the wrong way so when they asked him when you was down three oh what did you do the night before the next game he said I want to go see some terminally ill kids and the hospital and realize basketball is everything and and shout out to him for even doing that get fired after that getting fired after that. You know what I'm saying? Kyrie said the same thing, how that worked out for him.

He said basketball ain't everything. Yeah, but Kyrie didn't go to the hospital to visit terminally sick women or kids that have cancer that's going to die in the next few weeks. That's what homeboy wanted to do. Secondly, what I will say about the whole series overall, Secondly, what I will say about the whole series overall, Eric Spoelstra and Jimmy Butler talked about how when Boston was coming back 3-2, how Pat Riley came and fucked with them and was like, so this ain't even about the heat no more. You know where I'm from, right? You know I'm a Laker.

You know this is some blood crypt shit with these niggas. I know y'all not about to embarrass me. So Eric Spolster was talking about it. He was like, Pat came out to talk with us. And he was like, you know I don't fuck with the Celtics at all, nigga. I know y'all ain't about to do this to me. And they said they felt this sense of urgency when Pat came from upstairs and said. We figured that Pat was going downstairs.

Yeah, but when Pat came and put that, that yo I know y'all not about to let the Celtics do this to me this nigga killed my cousin exactly exactly y'all letting him walk around cause they came back with vengeance yeah game 7 they definitely did

so I think Pat Riley definitely motivated Spalster, Jimmy Butler, the rest of the crew, Jason Tatum, and Jalen Brown. We ain't going to keep saying y'all ain't 30 yet because you ain't got to give in a minute. I wouldn't pay them niggas, but I don't know if you should break them up, to be honest. I don't know what the answer is. But if they went back next year, if they went back next year.

If they go back next year. I still don't trust them. If they go back next year and they go to the chip or they go to the Eastern Conference final and not win, it's still you got to break that team up. I agree. I agree. Give them one more year. It's time. You got to get a chip

or you got to break up. Yeah, it's not even make it to the chip because you made it to the chip last year to be honest with you. You didn't achieve what you achieved this year. Yeah, but you can say it's a new coach and this that and the third it's probably first time coach i'm tired of niggas blaming the coach yeah every time something happened it's like the coach oh he need another year man there's niggas who won the chip on their first year this is true so ir. I don't know about all that. Supposed to have did the same thing, I think, one year.

Yeah, I think so. He got them there. Yeah. I think Steve Kerr, his first year, too. Yeah. I'm not sure. I want to say the wrong stats, and they'd be like, oh, you don't know what you're talking about. No, Steve Kerr did.

He took the Mark Jackson spot. Absolutely. That's when he did that. Yeah. Well, okay, so also aside from the coaches, I think players need to take responsibility too. There was a lot of people actually pointing fingers at Jalen Brown because the Heat's tactic was to force him left.

Every time they forced him left, he had eight turnovers in game seven. What are your thoughts about that? I know you touched on the Super Bowl. That's like Vinny basketball. Do you think he's worth the money? Push him left.

He can't go left. How do you make millions of dollars and can't go left? Just so I'm clear, because I didn't hear about this. The strategy was to force him to go left. Force him to go left. And they did it every time. He had a record of eight turnovers in game seven. And in game seven, that's crazy.

I remember playing for Gauchos. I was 11 years old. That's what I said. No, seriously. I remember playing for Gauchos. I was 11 years old. I was 11 years old. That's what I said. No, seriously, yo, I remember playing for Gauchos. I don't know if you remember Mr. Page. Yeah. I was playing for Gauchos, and I was in practice, and they cut off my right hand, and I didn't even realize I couldn't go left. I didn't even know. I'm just used to busting niggas out. And Mr. Page, I don't know if he died or not, but probably so much as Mr. Page, he said, yo, cut off his right

hand. And they played me right, and I was scoring left, and I was like, oh, shit, I don't know how to go left. I didn't even realize that I didn't know how to go left. And I was crying, because they started yeah! Yeah! Yo, I kept trying to go left so bad that let him dribble it off his foot.

Yo, I kept trying to go left so bad that I kept trying to go around the nigga with my right hand, and he wouldn't let me do it. And I was at 11 years old crying. So like Mace just said, how do you get paid millions and millions of dollars and you can't go left? Yeah, that's crazy. With all the dribbling drills they got, tennis balls. But listen, it's a couple players now that you bring this up.

I didn't realize Jalen Brown couldn't go left. You got Randall and Barrett who can't go right. In New York, you force them right, they can't go right. And then the last topic that nobody really talks about, and it kind of disturbs me for years, is that Klay Thompson has no moves. That nigga shoot his ass off, but he can't get you off him. He just go bop, bop.

Yeah, he has no through the leg behind the back. When they asked me about Devin Booker against Clay Thompson, I'm like, Devin Booker could get you off of him. Clay Thompson just could shoot really good, but after the 10 years you've been here, you don't have two or three moves to get a nigga off you. If you just can't shoot, you got to pass it, or you got to go to the basket.

You have no diddy-bop for 10 years in the NBA. Those are players that get paid millions and millions of dollars. Yeah, he need to work on that. He need to come to the hood. Yeah, like. Clay Thompson, come to the hood. Nobody notices that. They don't bring it up that this man has no moves to get you off.

He shoot his ass off. Yeah. But if you want him, he has no moves to get you off. So I didn't even know that about Jalen Brown, man. You definitely ain't getting no super max now You ain't got no deal left in That don't make no sense Okay, so also on the top of individual players

We can't touch on Jalen Brown and not touch on Jason Tatum So obviously Jalen Brown couldn't go left But he scored the most points with 19 points Jason Tatum scored 14 points Tatum let all the light-skinned niggas down He let all the light-skinned niggas down But they're saying that he was injured. So do you think that if Jason Tatum wasn't,

do you think that the Celtics could have won game seven? Everybody injured at this part of the season, man. Everybody limping and all this crazy shit. The Greek freak was hurt the first series. Listen, man. Jimmy Butler was hurt. Exactly. My thing is this.

If you're on the court, there's no excuses. Get off the court. Get off the court if you was hurt. Exactly. My thing is this. If you on the court, there's no excuses. Get off the court. Get off the court if you hurt. So if you on the court, I don't give nobody on the court an excuse unless it's just that bad that you can see it like Isaiah Thomas when he's limping around or Willis Reed or some crazy shit. Outside of that, you on all of a sudden game seven, you limping around. No excuse.

I'm not giving Jason Tatum a pass on that. Unless it's like a torn muscle or something like that. Other than that. Nigga said the x-ray said negative. Yeah, if it's a pain level, then that's a will level. Yeah, man. I'm not giving Jason Tatum. I'm not giving nobody on that team a pass.

The contract is coming out. The only person I will give a pass to is the coach. He got thrown in the situation a week before the season started. And then they talk about he's an interim coach. And then they finally give him the job. Then when he's down 0-3, they talk about

firing him. He's going through a roller coaster ride. He didn't ask to be the coach. They begged him to be the coach. And I think he did a great job with the Game 7 and the Eastern Conference Finals with some team that he didn't even know he's going to coach a week before the season started why is everybody so mentally fragile yeah we in a mentally fragile place it just seemed like everything is just so just fragile first of all everything you know what you know what i hate i hate when... When niggas is up,

they the goats. When everything go bad, it's like my pinky toe, my wrist. You know whatever we in, Murda? You know whatever we in? Tape my shoulder. We in the, I'm allergic to gluten ever. What the fuck is gluten?

When did gluten come out? I'm not from the gluten. I never heard of gluten until like seven years ago. I remember I heard the kids say that. You know I'm lactose intolerant. I said, nigga, we ain't have no milk. We just do a carnation with water.

Yeah, yeah. What do you mean you can't drink that milk? Nigga's talking about, yo, I can't eat gluten. When did gluten come out? I never heard of gluten until I was like fucking 35 years old. Now niggas is allergic to gluten and shit. This comes with the soft shit pours that you was just talking about. That's why I brought it up.

Niggas got mental issues. Everybody has mental issues. Yeah, niggas are allergic to gluten. They can't eat this crazy shit. Yeah, we're not making light of mental issues. It just seems like when people want to be tough, they're very tough. Right.

And then when they start underperforming, it's always a mental excuse. Yeah, lately, I'll definitely say that. It was no mental issues that you were allowed to talk about when we came.

If you had one, you had to shut up about it. Period. So I appreciate them, you got to shut up about it. Period. So I appreciate them sharing their vulnerability, but we got to get back to sports, man. We got to get back to sports. I think they're getting paid too much

to be that weak, honestly. I don't disagree with you. Listen, man. You can figure it out for that much. Michael Jordan made $11112 million his whole career. We're talking about a nigga Jason Tatum making $314 million in five years. And we want them to make that money. So we're not people that want you guys not to make that money or we're hating because you're making that money.

We're just saying live up to the responsibilities i believe it's something like that in the bible where it says to whom so much is given much is required you're getting a lot it's time to perform a lot we don't need the excuses because they don't give you an excuse for your check that's a fact i totally agree 100 right good points and aside from me being a heat fan all i'm here'm hearing is excuses. So we'll see what happens. Yeah, we got to stop those excuses. Yeah. Okay, so moving forward, the Nuggets defeated the Heat in Game 1 of the NBA Finals.

Yeah. What are your thoughts? What you thought? Yeah. Listen, man, I give the Heat, listen, what the Heat done this year was exceptional. They was one game from not even making the playoffs. They lost their first round game, the play-in. Yeah.

So they almost didn't make the playoffs. They were the eighth seed. Yeah, but they was in the play-in to be the eighth seed. That's crazy. And lost the first game to even be in the playoffs. So then you get to the playoffs, you beat Milwaukee, beat the Knicks, and then you beat Boston. They did a phenomenal job.

But, you know, listen, man, me and Murda probably been talking about this the last two or three shows. We seen them Denver niggas live, man. It's Batman versus the Joker. Yeah, for real. We seen them niggas live. I'm going to give the Heat one game. I thought it was going to be tonight because Denver was off for nine games

and the Heat been in motion. You giving them one game? I was. I thought it was going to be tonight because I thought they had river. I thought there was going to be a river. Yeah. You know, I thought Denver was going to be a rustic. Everybody keeps saying they're going to get the second game.

And I remember going out to Denver and I had to buy oxygen. Right. Exactly. The air was so crazy. I was in the Asp, and I had to buy oxygen. Right, exactly. The air was so crazy. I was in the Aspens or somewhere supposed to perform, and I just couldn't breathe. And the guy was like, hey, we got to go to the store. We got to buy oxygen. And I saw that tonight.

It looked like they couldn't keep up with it. It's a higher altitude in Denver. Absolutely, 100%. You go to Denver, and you're not used to that altitude, it's different for you. And what happened is Miami only had two days to get used to it. If you're out there for a week to train or whatever, I don't know how long it takes to get used to their oxygen.

But Mesa's 100% right. Their level of ground is way higher than any place else. And if you're not used to that, you're going to get gas. Plus coming off a seven game series, higher altitude, they're fresher. Talking about Denver, it just wasn't their night to night. You're tired because you went to the seventh game with Boston and it took everything to get that game. So now they find themselves drained and going back there.

And I just hate even like with Boston, they shot themselves out of that game. That was crazy. So then when we come into this series, it seemed like the three-point era is dying. That's what I'm watching. People that are trying to live just off the three is going back to real basketball. That's what Jimmy Butler proves. That's true, but I don't think Jimmy Butler could do this by himself. They can't.

Oh, yeah, they can. They can't beat Denver. Listen, man, Denver is a full team, man. You got the Joker. As much as I like Bim, I don't think he's not. I think they should be proud of them. If they get two games, you should be really proud of them. Listen get two games. Yeah, if they get one. You should be really proud of them. Listen, man, LeBron ain't won a game.

Booker and KD won two games. Minnesota won one game. So if you get a game, cool. I don't see two. I was saying one. But if they get two, listen, I want this to be a series. Bam is not matching up with the Joker. You don't think Jimmy Butler could will this series like the rest?

I think. There's some people that say that. They say Jimmy Butler got him this far. You got to realize. This wouldn't be far fetched. Everybody's following the story that they're showing. You're not showing a Jamal Murray story. You're not showing somebody who was getting 50 in the bubble against Donovan Mitchell,

who hurt their leg, who had to sit out for two years and think he's going to get traded because he was hurt. So he thought Denver was going to trade him. Then he finally gets better and watch this man get two finals MVPs. And he's like, if I had a little bit of help, we could do something. What about the Jamal Murray story? Everybody following the Jimmy Butler story. What about the Michael Porter Jr. story?

Yeah, and the Jimmy Butler story what about the Michael Porter jr. story and the Bruce Browns the Bruce Brown is almost up to 200 points right in the playoffs alone while the rest of the team is probably at one 100 so he's balling at a whole nother level then you got when you think of Murray Murray is there proving that he's better than every other point guard in the league. I'm ready to say that. Murray is better than every point guard in the league. Yeah, back to what I was saying. Michael Porter Jr. hurt.

He was the number one player coming out of high school. He hurt his back. So his stock value went down, and Denver lucked up and got him. He's supposed to be the number one. He's supposed to be how Tatum is in the NBA. So you got to think about his his uh his story to we like I don't talk about Jimmy Butler I was hurt I was supposed to be out Jason Tatum is yeah I'm a key piece on a good team yeah you got to think about Aaron Gordon he

was down there in Orlando never he was never going away yeah now he's on the team that could possibly win you got to think about Caldwell Pope Jr. Lakers ain't want me. I helped them win a chip. You got to give me. Look, because Jimmy Butler on TV, everybody got their own personal story. They like, oh, come do my story. My shit crazy too.

And Miami haven't beat Denver since the bubble. If you really think about it, they're probably 6-0 in the last couple of years. I don't ever remember Miami beating them. Right. I know they didn't win this year at all. They showed the highlights of the two games they played this year. They didn't win this year. But at the end of the day, because Jimmy Butler is doing this in spectacular fashion,

that pisses other niggas off who have their own story. Yeah. And they're trying to prove it right now. Yeah, and it's looking like they're going to do it. I give Miami one game. I wish it would go seven to six, but Denver is just a really, really good team. Outside of injury, I don't know if it goes past five. Right now it's looking four-ish.

Okay. Well, Jamal Murray and Jokic have great chemistry, so I see that, but I'm still optimistic about the heat. Okay. I don't think playoff Jimmy was activated yet. He only got 13 points. Bam, you know, snap for the team as a whole, but even like Max Struess, he scored zero points. They only lost by what? 11 points. You don't think this is too big of a game for them? No, I'm rooting for the heat. The lights might be too bright for them. I'm game for them? No, I'm rooting for the Heat regardless. The lights might be too bright for them. I'm rooting for them regardless. I think that when a couple more players get their head in the game,

really start feeling it, and realize who they're up against, we'll be surprised. So that's who I'll go with. I call Jimmy Butler PB&J, Playoff Jimmy Butler. That's my nickname for him. But you're saying he's not activated. Not yet. I think after this game

we'll see a different Jimmy. 13 points ain't good enough. I hope so. I hope we see a different Jimmy Butler. But to say he's not activated, the playoffs been started. He's activated last game. So hopefully we'll see a different Jimmy Butler because I'm rooting for Jimmy Butler.

But this is a tough team, bro. This is is a tough team bro this is really it looks like it's going as as planned because they had them down and when you say that and listen I've seen the game on the flight so bits and pieces because the internet was going out when you say they won by only 11 they was winning by 15 the whole game it was no time Miami was close they kept them at base so the final score may not be equivalent to how the game really went because when I looked at it was never it was gaps It was big and they were favors by nine. So they won by 11. I'm still optimistic. That's my team Let us know who you who y'all got in the comments Denver or heat and with that we'll be right back

pink horsepower We'll be right back. Pink Horse Power. She call this thing about toxic. What's happening, baby? Baby, what's happening? Why you walking like that? That's how I walk. And then, like, you come on breathing on me like that. I fucking breathe to live. And, like, you used to be dark skin and now you act like hella light skin.

You fucking blind? I'm dark skin. What the fuck? And then like, look at your beard. The fuck is wrong with my beard? Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are you talking about? No, I don't even like it. The way you breathe in, all of that.

Has this ever happened to you? Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset. She's frustrated. There's only one way to handle that. Pink Horse Power. Oh, but your breath! But your breath is really refreshing! No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage

plus have i told you how good your beard looks lately it looks so good no php it works every time wait where are you going Well, welcome back. Tank was arrested on June 1st after allegedly violating house arrest. He now has a 90-day detention in jail. He pleaded guilty to four counts relating to a hit and run that left four people, which included a pregnant woman, injured.

What are your thoughts? I know. Well, we already know what he was on house arrest for. Hope everybody's okay in the accident and everything. But that's kind of past tense. I'm not saying that's past tense. But we know. The question is, what did he do to violate the parole?

You know what I'm saying? And how long is he going to be in jail? Yeah, because we need to see nigga fight. Yeah, we was expecting him to fight Devin Haney. Yeah, exactly. I don't think Devin Haney taking that fight. I think, though, what I will say is this. I think that outside of Devin, I think Shakur and Tank are willing to fight each other. I'm not saying that's going to happen, but I think that everybody's realizing,

yo, we can't keep ducking each other. Like, it's time to fight. Yeah, a lot of things keep happening to make these fights not translate yeah and that's what i want to talk about yeah i want to cut through all of the games do you think he went to jail so he wouldn't have to fight nah i don't think so i i ain't putting that on tank i think tank want to fight i just i'm just asking the question you know just just being objective. I'm not. Listen, I'm not disagreeing.

It seems like every time a big fight is supposed to happen, something happens. True. Absolutely. So I know Tank to be a person that will probably hurt any of those fighters. So I'm not thinking he's ducking. But I have to ask the question. And when he gets out, do you think he'll still be ready to fight absolutely my mic came back that's the first thing went through my mind when Mike came back and then he for Holyfield

everybody tank 27 Mike about 37 38 years old this he's young enough to come back and I don't think he's gonna be a look that up that baby how was Mike Tyson when he came out of jail? Continue Cam. That's what I wanted to know. No I just think that I don't think he's gonna be in jail that long. Floyd Mayweather went to jail for three months. Came back kicking ass. You know what I'm saying?

And then they say that Earl Spence hurt Floyd when he came back out of jail. Nah that was later on man. You mixing match times now. You just wilding now. When he came out, he beat Marquez. I'm a Floyd fan. He beat the shit out of Marquez.

Yeah, I'm just saying what people say. I don't think he could beat Floyd. But the Errol Spence thing, I don't know what's going on with that because they don't talk about what goes on sparring, but that's some legend that Errol Spence got the best of Floyd in training camp and then they kicked him out the camp. Yeah, we're not saying

Errol can beat Floyd. Floyd, we're not saying that. You get mad at certain shit like that. I remember the other day when we was watching the game that Jason Tatum passed Larry Bird and some shit. Yeah, I get mad at that. Yeah, I hear you.

It's like, yo, stop trying to act like Jason Tatum's better than Larry Bird because what they'll do is they'll be like, the most 50-point game in the history of Mesa was so mad. So what y'all trying to say is he's better than Larry Bird? Yeah, Tatum better than Larry Bird. You got mad at that shit. I was really mad about that.

Yeah. I hate when people try to change legends, you know, especially when you were there for the legend. You saw it happen. It's different. And one thing what I will say is about, I know we're in boxing right now, but what I will say about a Jason Tatum, Larry Burke as Paris, and I know Jason Tatum may have the most 50-point games in Celtic history.

Cam, don't compare him to no Larry Burke. Can I say what I'm going to say? Go ahead. I was going to say that I know Jason Tatum has the most 50-point games in Celtic history or this amount of wins more than Larry Bird or this amount of wins like Bird. But what I will say is this. I trust Larry Bird when it's time to go to the playoffs. When it's time to go to the championship, I'll trust Larry Bird.

I trust that white boy. I trust that white boy. I trust that nigga. A million times more than Jason Tatum. I'll fuck with Jason Tatum. But when it's playoff time and championship time, I'll trust Larry Bird. Just like I said earlier, I don't trust Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown until proven different. I a million times trust Larry Bird. People think I be tripping.

Larry Bird would have won that game seven. Absolutely. A million times. That game was close enough for him to win. As much as I love Jimmy Butler, a prime time Larry Bird, Jimmy Butler wouldn't have been able to do nothing. You know how many people talk about, listen man, this is how good Larry Bird is. Larry Bird said before the game started, we could Google that later on,

that he said, you know what, I already beat you earlier this season. I'm going to play y'all the whole game with my left hand and score 40 points on all left-hand shots the whole game. On all black players. All black players. Yeah, he wasn't doing this on other little white boys. Who tells a nigga I'm too good for you that I'm just going to play the whole game with my left hand? Like, that's just different.

Back to Mike Tyson. I'm sorry. I didn't want to just jump off the top of it. Yeah, how old was Mike Tyson? Yeah, so he was released in 96, so he's about 30. Okay, that ain't too far off, though. Yeah. That ain't too far off.

Yeah, we all know. 30 is still young for boxing. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So what else? Okay, so also on the topic, the fight is official for Terrence Crawford to fight Errol Spence Jr. on July 29th. Who do you got? Free tank.

Go ahead. She want to know who we got for the fight. Who I got for the fight. Like what? For Errol Spence and Jamal Crawford. Man, I was wishing we did that interview this week, man. Yeah, yeah. So for those that didn't know, we're supposed to interview Errol Spence.

We're going to reschedule it. But we have some questions for him. But I don't know who I'm going to pick in the fight, man. I know who I got. Who you got? I got Crawford, man. know who I got oh yeah I got crawfoot man and I wanted to ask Earl Spence like if he was here I saved this question man you remember his car flipped yeah I want to ask some was he was he running from mo three for more hold on what does this

have to do with the fight though murder like is mental like what what you talking about i i like asking the questions people want to know man hold on just so i understand time out time out time out i'm a little confused on this why what what does him flip in the car have to do with mo three god bless the dead i just i just no i don't know the story that's what max said so what happened so you could for me and the viewers that don't understand why you asked this question just rumor has it that you know that him and mode three was into something i just want to know was he trying to get away from mode three is that why the car flipped so just because i'm i'm

just naive and some of the viewers maybe what, what you're saying is that Mode 3 and Aerospace has some beef? Yeah, street beef. Street beef. Okay, so you're saying that when Aerospace was driving, that he was running from Mode 3, God bless the dead. That's what you're saying? I'm not laughing.

I'm not laughing. God bless the dead. I'm not laughing. But that's, I'm just trying to make sure I understand what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. I didn't know that. That's why I'm asking you to it's not laughing. God bless the devil. It's not laughing. But I'm just trying to make sure I understand what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. I didn't know that. That's why I'm asking you to be clear. Did you hear about this stat?

No. Okay, so that's the, but no. See, people want to know the truth. That's what I'm here for. That's why I'm acting like I'm a three-year-old because I want to be clear on what you're saying. You're saying that the time that Errol Smith's car flipped. He may be trying to get away from all three that would have been a great question maybe when we interview him he'll have

that question answer that question people be thinking we're trolling those are the real good that's that's a great question i just didn't see i didn't know that and that's why i was trying to elaborate on what you talked people would definitely know that because you know you know who's interested in that the people who know that like yes yeah because when people are hitting my line they're like well why didn't you ask this question why didn't you ask that question so if you don't ask the question and they think we're being scared we're not ducking no smoke absolutely you're 100 right i just didn't know i was just asking because you're damn right it is what it is. I wanted to make sure I was clear and I got your back now. I just wanted to make sure I know the information before we act.

So I didn't even know that. That would have been a great question. Like when a car flips, the car that goes by, it looks like a car I seen in Mode 3N. Say less. Say less, bro. That's why I'm here. Your trusted voice. Yeah, my trusted voice.

So hopefully maybe we get to ask him when we interview him, if we get to interview him. And then also what I was going to say is that I've seen Terrence Crawford in people's comments talking about, if you say you vote and if you say Errol Smith's going to win, I've seen Terrence Crawford in the comments talking about stay over there too. Terrence Crawford's in the comments. He's talking like he really got the victory. Yeah, but not only that, if you pick Errol Spence today, stay there

nigga. That's the type of time he's on already in the comments. And I think Errol Spence is a great fighter, but I wish he stayed out of some of the other troubles. Well, what I will say is this troubles well what i will say is this man what i will say is this regardless of whatever whatever the reason was why he flipped his car got the car so that he came and beat or power away, but I think it's going to be a great fight.

Yeah, I think it will be. Okay, well let us know y'all's decision. Make sure to tweet and hashtag it is what it is. Let us know your thoughts. Thanks for tuning in to this episode. Stay tuned for the next. What you want, nigga? Everything nigga super size. Super next.

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