IT IS WHAT IT IS - EPISODE 24 #ITISWHATITISTALK

Episode Date: July 6, 2023

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH BRANDON MARSHALL...

So we still have Brandon Marshall here. We figure we do a quick interview and ask him some questions that me and Murda been wanting to ask him. Yeah. Let's start with this. Do you think that you're the best wide receiver ever from Florida or even Miami? I would say no. Okay. Not even close.

Who's your top three receivers? Give me your top three receivers from Miami, Florida or Miami area. It's hard. First off, we got to understand this when we talk about football. All right? The best states, football states, you got Cali, you got Florida, and a lot of people got Florida won. You got Cali. You got Florida. And, you know, a lot of people got Florida one. You got Cali.

You got Texas. You got Georgia. I'm going to throw Pennsylvania out there. And then you got some small population like Virginia. You got Cali above Florida? No, no, no. I got Florida. But there's some people, depending on, you know what I'm saying, the situation, some people might put Cali there.

I got Texas second. You got Texas second. It's good. So when you think about Florida being number one for so long, man, there's so many cats that came out. But in South Florida, just alone, you got Andre Johnson, you got, man, you got Andre Johnson, you got, sheesh, put me on the spot here. You got-

Are you better than Santana Moss? You got Santana Moss, that's what we got, on the spot here. You got are you better said Tina more? Yeah Santana Mars People you name when you're better than not better than them. I would say this high school career college career Dancing. Yellow leather. Red leather. You're not doing it now. Well, let me ask you. All right, cool.

Because you've been answering for seven minutes. It's been seven. Who's your top three from South Florida? From South Florida. And then after you give me your top three, where would you rank yourself? So in the league, you said Santana Moss. I'm just looking at the numbers. I love Santana Moss, but I feel like I had...

Bro, could you tell us your top three, man? What is that? We got shit to do, man. Who is your top three in South Florida? Santana Moss, Andre Johnson. And the third, so Santana Moss, Andre Johnson, and the third. Like, damn. We need Stat Baby here.

You got Ocho. You don't got... I was about to say. So those are Ocho. Those are top damn. We need Stat Baby here. You got Ocho. You don't got Bob's brother. So, those are Ocho. Those are top three. That's my top three. That's my top three. But it's hard, though. Are you better than Antonio Brown?

Mm. Totally different. Me and Antonio Brown had the same type of trajectory. High school. You can't answer no questions. Yes, I did. It's hard. Yo, you can't answer no questions. I'm going to give It's hard. Yo, you can't answer no questions.

I'm going to give the nod to A.B. I'm going to give the nod to A.B. I'll keep. He had a crazy run at Pittsburgh. He had a crazy run at getting a nod to A.B. He should run with Kanye. So, are you better than Mark Dupre? Oh, yeah, I'm better than Mark Dupre.

All right, now you're going to disrespect the OG. You have many questions. Let, now you're going to disrespect the OG. You're wild. You're wild. Let me ask you a question. No, no, hold on. They're right, but we don't got time for context. We want just yes or no questions from you.

Well, in this conversation, you can give us context because... See, that's why this is the best show. Because y'all keep it 100 all the time. We're we all be diplomatic in sports. Everybody political. Everybody diplomatic, trying to go to the barbecue. Yeah, man. You stay boy, you know.

Yo, they ain't talking about at high school or anything. Yo, my niggas be better than that, my nigga. That's it, man. The trajectory when we was in college. I didn't ask you all that, B-L-L. You better than niggas or not. That's it, man. So, where would you... Look, you gave Santana Morris, Andre Johnson, and the other guys, the other guys, the other guys, the other guys, the other guys, the other guys, the other

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Shadow Chosinko, Antonio Brown, top four. Where would you rank yourself? Who else would you put above you? Because I think you had a hell of a career. Would you put Terrell Owens over you? Oh, look at you. Why are you trying to get messy? Why are you trying to get messy, yo?

I just want to know. Well, since we're going to leave Florida. We're going to leave Florida. I mean, that's not even a debate. When we talk about football, not even a debate. Now, you talk about other things, we can talk about that all day. Other debate? Like what?

What do you mean? I'm saying, obviously, you're trying to get messy here. You're acting like Kelly. Yes, you are. You're trying to get messy. So you understand the beef that's out there. Look, I wish. There's a beef?

I feel like, I feel like. Time out, time out. No, no, honestly, honestly. Okay, listen. No, there ain't no beef. No, no, listen. We don't even know there's no beef. Who you got beef with?

Nobody. Now tell us what's going on. You know what's going on? No. Now come on now. Give us some scoop. What's happening, yo? I ain't no scoop.

I ain't no scoop. What's going on? Nope, y'all should have did y'all work. Y'all. Yeah. No, my wife I ain't no Scoop. I ain't no Scoop. What's going on? No, y'all should have did your work. Y'all went, yo. No, my heart just told me to ask T.O. I didn't know anything about T.O. What's going on with T.O.? Nah, he cool.

He just turned 50. He must be beefing with T.O. Nah, let me see what's going on, man. He just turned 50. You know he still trying to play? Yeah, that's crazy. That's shade. That's shade.

I'ma keep on it. T.O. in the pocket for still trying to play. Why you, why? Like, there's rappers that- Kill him, but that's shade. The way he brought it out. When did the rapper retire? No, no, what I'm saying is, T.O. is still trying to play. That's shade. That's shade. That's shade. I'm going to keep on it. T.O. in the pocket for still trying to play. Why you, why? Kill him, but that's shade.

The way he brought it up. When the rapper retired. No, no, what I'm saying is this. I think that T.O.'s in good enough shape to play, but because people like rappers, we're independent contractors. When you're in the NFL, you could be in the best shape of your life. Your birth certificate says when you have to stop playing. That's why when you have to stop playing.

That's why when you go to boxing, right, Bernard Hopkins could still fight at 50, 55. He's not for a team. I think there's a lot of players that's older that can still play. You look like, pause, you're in great shape, good enough to play. But it's just. T.O. called him fat. Oh, that's what happened?

Look, look, look. Oh, I didn't do it. T.O. called him fat. You ain't even on the show, bro. That's a producer. Yo, T.O. called him fat. No, I need more beef to that. Look, look, look. Oh, I do. Yo, you ain't even on the show, bro. That's a producer. Yo, do y'all call them fat? Nah, I want more beef to that. Oh, hey, yo. Yeah.

Yeah. So what's going on? Why do they call you fat? Yo, the next episode. Yo. Yo, yo. Yo. Nah, we're supposed to rest.

Oh, I seen that. Now that I'm thinking about it, I did see that. This was a while ago. He's like, he's doing the septum, like, bread and mushrooms, chef Kyle B. Yeah, I seen that now that I'm thinking. That was a while ago. Nah, this what happened. This what happened while ago. He's like, he's doing the septum, I'm like, Brandon Marshall, Jeff Cobb, yeah, I seen that now

that I'm thinking about it, it was a while ago. No, this what happened, this what happened. Yeah, okay. I did see that. And honestly, I didn't know. I did see that, after both said it, I just remembered. So, you know, he out there and he trying to make his comeback and he's racing, pause, he look good, right?

In shape, like you just said, by the turn 50. I don't know if what he ran, but he looked good right in shape like you just said by the turn 50 i don't know if what he ran but he he looked good pause right so i go out there on social media i'm like yo i bet uh a hundred thousand i beat him now i'm like you i'm thinking about business right absolutely boom let's get to the bag st charmer's y'all gonna rate y'all gonna who or what yeah we trying to get it right trying to get it right there's big bags as get it right. There's big bags out there, as you know. Absolutely. Right? We're not going to race in the park right now.

No, let's put the whole deal together. You said you would be in there racing? Yeah, because he was running. He was racing Tyreek. He was racing Ocho. It don't matter. I'm going to be honest with you. This is my first time ever saying this. I ain't give a damn if I want it or not. But I looked at it, yo, you can put $210,000 in your pocket. I can put $200,000 in my pocket. He's so competitive that all he locked in is taking each other's money. I said, bro, yo, we can broadcast this, get this person to come in, have a title sponsor here, get this person product placement. He

didn't want to hear none of that. All he heard was you said this publicly. Put the money in. I said, cool, bro, we can do that, but let's put the deal together. And then guess what? We going to spin it into a whole series. After we jump it off, pause, then we bring other athletes along. They racing each other. You're thinking as a businessman. Right.

So now I can't even, we ain't even speaking the same language. So it got really personal offline. Did y'all fight? No, we ain't fight, but we ain't Right. So it got really personal, offline. Did y'all fight? No, we ain't fight, but we ain't fight. No. Y'all seen each other? We football players. No, but did y'all see each other?

In Philly, we just did. Right. How was the energy? It was cool. I'll be honest with you. You know what I'm saying? I made sure I had some people around just because. And for me, it's like, I got too much going on.

He got too much going on. I got too much going on to have any type of distractions on what I'm building. But that's why I got too much going on he got too much going on I got too much going on to Have any type of distractions on what I'm building, but that's why I said if you talking football He the best, but we talk about other things want to do celebrity boxing if I feel like you know like if I felt like I was comfortable if I was comfortable doing that and we had to put the gloves on Take his head off right got me right but I am I would never you'll never see me in a way so football players don't fight yeah we fight but think about this right now come we talking about what y'all doing

you know what I'm doing the comparison platform they just sold for 600 million boom we got an opportunity to do the same thing. So if I go out there and I'm beefing with this cat online, that spill over at some softball event, they not going to take me serious. Absolutely. You feel what I'm saying? So I got to move differently.

That's all I'm saying. And listen, and go to your point, because we have stopped talking about it really quick. I think a lot of older players, not just football, basketball players can play, but the NBA and the NFL put a tag on everybody like it's milk that's going to expire. I really believe Jamal Crawford could still play in the NBA. I really believe Joe Johnson could still play in the NBA. Isaiah Thomas.

Carmelo Anthony. Carmelo Anthony. But because your birth certificate says you're a certain age, they kick you out. And that was all I was saying about T.O. Because a friend of mine argued about why T.O. can't play. This, that, and the third. And I'm like, bro, his birth certificate says that he can't play in the NFL. You're part of the problem, Kim.

I didn't know I had that much fucking pull in the NFL that I'm part of the problem. But what I'm saying for people like you, you get that and you started your career while you were playing. I remember you coming on ESPN while you were playing. Same thing with my nigga who just won the Emmy the other day. Ryan Clark. Same thing. While he was with Pittsburgh or wherever the team went to, those guys started their career

while they were also playing. Same thing with Draymond. He goes on TNT from time to time. Jason Kidd. Right. You get the vision to where people like T.O. may have been so good that they can't fathom why the NFL won't give them another chance. I sell tickets.

I'm still in shape. I remember San Antonio. Pardon me, San Antonio. Antonio Brown, when he left Tampa Bay, ran off going to the Jumping Jacks. This nigga Terrell almost said, I'm ready to fill right in. He said, I'm flying right in there. I'm like, yo, bro, you don't get it?

These niggas, I know you're not sliding right in, poor thing. You're not calling. Yeah, did you see that? That was two of them. Yeah, that was two of them. I'm trying to help you. I'm viewing your team. I'm getting up for business man you are poor all right so over over the week we heard um stephen a address something that was going on with Paul Pierce. Right.

And he made mention of, I guess, Kevin Garnett was interviewing Paul Pierce. And I think you were there, Shady McCoy and Deshawn. And he was like, you guys should have basically not let that happen. What would you say to that? Well, I think Stephen probably mixed it up because we sat down with Paul Pierce and we addressed some of these situations, these issues.

What happened, I think what he's talking about... Because he was saying he was in his house and all of that, and Stephen A was trying to get him to understand that even though you're at your house, you're on live and you work for Disney. Well, no, what just happened recently, you got Kevin Garnett and you got Paul Pierce. They got a deal with BetMGM and they on Showtime, Showtime Basketball.

Yes. So Kevin Garnett live streaming and he doing the show. Paul Pierce didn't even know they was live. Right. I see that. Right. So I wasn't there on that situation. He didn't know. He didn't even know they was alive. Right. I see that. Right? So I wasn't there on that situation. Oh, he was alive and he didn't know.

He didn't know. He was just being Paul Pierce, the same Paul Pierce that we saw when he was on ESPN and he lost his deal because he was at home on live again but on Instagram. Right. He was. Wilding out. Strippers doing all of that stuff. Zion Williams.

Williamson. On live though. Right. On live. So when we sat down with him, that was a couple months ago to discuss that. He was just like, you know what? I felt like it wasn't that big of a deal. So I hear what Stephen A. Smith is saying, but I feel like that's why this is so important.

When you own your own platform, your own content, you do whatever you want to do. You be yourself. But when you're on those networks, ESPN, FS1, you're under the hand of some of them. If anything happened, when I was on FS1, it's the reason why I had to leave. So boom, something happened. Something in the NFL, partner of FS1, the business. They want to keep that deal with the NFL. Something happened. Now you got the head of comms, PR, coming. Yo, what are you going to say?

So now you're trying to filter what I'm about to say. I can't do that. I need to be able to say whatever I want to say how I want to say it. So I feel like that's why the is what it is, all the smokes, even what Pat McAfee's doing on the other side, what we doing at I Am Athlete is so important because we need to create a space where we show up. Like how y'all talk is wild. I'm going to be honest. Y'all be pushing the limit.

Right. You feel me? But that's how we talk where we come from. Right. You know what I'm saying? But as an athlete, you know, we more institutionalized. We more like filtered. Like gel institutionalized? But think about this. But as an athlete, we more institutionalized. We more filtered. Like gel institutionalized?

But think about this, though. I get exactly what you're saying. This was the wildest thing to me when I was going through everything I was going through when I first got in the league. I used to get in a lot of trouble. I would lose deals or they would say I'm not marketable because of the things that I was doing. But then a rapper go out and do the same things and go get the deal from the same company to see that he's not marketable. So what works for entertainers and artists don't work for athletes, which is crazy to me.

But I feel like times is changing. But athletes are entertainers, just so you know. Facts, 100%. 100%. But see, I get when you say institutionalized because I get 100% because now what you're thinking about is I have to go and say the right thing. I don't want to lose a sponsorship. I don't want to get fined from the teams.

Like it's certain shit you can't even talk about the referees. If the referees get some shit wrong, you get fined. So I get when you say institutionalized because you always got to be like, I don't want to fuck no money up by saying the wrong thing. So now when you're in front of camera You're almost censoring yourself before you say it to when you come up here and you'd be like fuck that like it same thing I am athlete. That's your shit. So you can still say whatever you want, even though you carry yourself Well, it's still your shit. I can dig it. I can see me going work and when you say entertainers and

Athletes even though like murderers right entertainers and athletes, even though like Murda is right, entertainers are athletes. It's a clean entertainer. Yeah. They want us to wear the suits. You got to realize the audience is different, though. You're selling out an arena every Sunday to where you're saying majority of fans are probably white that's coming to get tickets. To where we have the white person. Now it's different because of the internet.

probably white that's coming to get tickets to where we have the white person now it's different because of internet you have a white person who wants to record label who wants us to push ignorant shit to niggas because they want to buy up ignorant shit. The same thing like we make jokes about John Morant's sneakers selling out. I seen a you know a Barbie Ken doll of John Morant holding a gun. You know all that ignorant shit. Niggas still like that and to y'all, y'all fans are different. Like, you go to a basketball game and you look at that in that arena. Outside of Charlotte, Atlanta, maybe those two, the majority arena is white.

That's a great point, Cam, that you made. Because with hip-hop, it's selling it to ignorance to blacks. Or supposed to be. Supposed to be. And then when it comes to sports, you're selling it to a different demographic. So in that different demographics, the graphics, they don't want you selling ignorance to them. So that's why they don't want you doing that. Don't mess up my show.

If you're an artist, it's okay. But it's so crazy, it's wild, right? You look at, we call these pressers. After a game, we sit at a podium. All these platforms, networks, you know, asking us questions. A post-game interview. Here you go. And, you know, I go against a corner or a team. They suck.

If I go out there and say, he suck. They suck. Oh, that's bulletin. Or before the game, that's bulletin board material. But the reality, what I really want to say is he sucked. This corner ain't no good. My coach sucked. Or we sucked.

You got to say the right things. You got to go out there and always got to be diplomatic. You know what my agent said? But that's what we want. Keep saying that they suck. I don't know what you're talking about. He said, I suck. Corner sucks. they suck. I don't know what you're talking about. He said, I suck. I said, corner suck?

They suck. Everybody just suck. The shit go. Was that a pause? What? But you know what you was feeling? You got to choose. You got to choose.

No, but you know what? I didn't want to cut you off, but you wouldn't stop because I felt what you was saying like not. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That's a pause. That because I felt what you were saying like, That's a pause. I didn't want to cut you off. Yo, you know what? I was trying to help you out. When you wasn't looking, Masey was like.

You just look like I'm trying to tell you. I was trying to. But I understand what you said. You go to a press conference. Now, because I like, for real, I never, we never made a pro, so I like to hear this. You go to a press conference, and you have to say what's politically correct. Hold on, before you do that, let me give you the process. Right, got it.

So here's the podium. Right. You got 40 men and women on the beat. Pause. Beat mean the writers. Beat writers. Pause this whole scenario. Yeah. Beat mean the writers. Beat writers. Pause this whole scenario. Yeah, pause this whole scenario.

Boom. So that's ESPN. That's all the bloggers. That's everybody. Now that is what it is. One day Stat Baby going to be on that side asking us questions and all that, right? Before we even come here, our head of PR might sit with the top players. All right.

So you got Stat Baby in the audience. They kind of wowed a little bit. She might ask you something, try to get you to do this. Boom, boom, boom. All right. Then you got ESPN, this reporter, this person. So just give your hands up. Oh, they telling us.

So you can filter it. Yo, here's the red flags. This is the potential questions that can come up. So now everything we coming up to say is already scripted. Gotcha. You feel what I'm saying? I didn't know that. That's great information. I didn't know that. I just wanted to give you that process before

we even come up, and that's the difference. And that's why now, like, you know, back in the day, yo, we couldn't even like an athlete going out there cursing on Twitter or you know, having a drink in his hand. What you doing? You can lose your deal.

Sitting there taking a picture with your homeboys out with a beer in your hand or a drink. Right. Don't do that. Yeah. You always see what we do. Let's put that drink down. Now that I'm hearing what you're saying. So how did AI just say practice if he was prepped?

Right. He just was going for it? But think about it. There's some athletes that come alone that just it is what it is look i was one of those dudes where he was just like i'm me yeah i'm about to say this question no that's see i could see me like i'm like because we from the same club i could see me saying here the question i'm like i can't wait for a nigga to ask me i can't wait let him let him get him That's why they prepped him and he still went.

We talking about practice. Yeah, because some things I'll be like, I may want to get off pause and say something crazy. Yeah. Because this one's going to take me off. Let them ask me that. Yeah, this the one's going to take me off. This the one, like, you know what I'm saying? Even like Marshawn Lynch.

Yeah. Marshawn Lynch be like, he don't even talk. That's why he did that. Right. He's like, come on, man. This is crazy. Yeah, exactly. It's crazy. I'm only here so I don't get fired, man even talk. That's why he did that. He's like, come on man, this is crazy. Yeah, exactly. It's crazy. I'm only here so I don't get fired, man.

Yeah. It's dope. So listen man, we gonna wrap up this short interview. We gonna actually bring Brandon Marshall back so we can get a real thorough interview and we wanna say thank everybody for watching It Is What It Is. It Is What It Is. And then drive through in a black Porsche. Black Porsche. Number two with the Mack sauce. Mack sauce. I sold hard and my hands sore.