IT IS WHAT IT IS - EPISODE 25 #ITISWHATITISTALK

Episode Date: July 6, 2023

CAM LET'S EVERYONE KNOW THE REAL REASON WHY DRAYMOND GREEN SNUFFED JORDAN POOLE......

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I said it's only one. Oh, he ain't got it. He ain't got it. He done heard his tongue. Welcome back to It Is What It Is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Camp and Mace. What's good, fam? How you? You good? Welcome back, Stat. Yeah, I'm happy to be back. Yo, niggas been looking for you, man. Yo, niggas is like, yo, we're Stat out. It's all type of conspiracies and shit. Listen, man be happy for you to be back, man. Yeah, I'm happy to be back, too.
Starting point is 00:00:28 And yes, guys, I am back. I don't know why people thought I left and was never coming back. I'm here. Yeah, they said you broke out after the Stephen A. Yeah. Yeah, they said it was tampering. Yeah. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:00:39 They just said niggas told me it was tampering. It's really crazy what you hear. Y'all don't believe the internet. Anyways, so we got some crazy news. The Wizards are finalizing a deal to send Chris Paul to the Warriors for a package
Starting point is 00:00:50 that includes Jordan Poole, a 2030 protected first round pick, and a 2027 second rounder to the Wizards. Is this a good trade? And what do you think? Everything been fucked up for Chris Paul
Starting point is 00:01:06 since we started this show I'm not gonna lie ever since we started this show shit's been fucked up for Chris Paul it's you you trying to blame me Chris Paul wasn't gonna talk to you he ain't talk to you neither
Starting point is 00:01:22 but the whole shit is listen Chris Paul got traded to Washington and never made it to Washington now he't going to talk to you. He ain't talk to you neither. But the whole shit is, listen, Chris Paul got traded to Washington and never made it to Washington. Now he is Golden State. Nigga got bouncing Chris Paul around like the paintball ball pours. Like, where the fuck is Chris Paul going to end up? He's not going to stay in Golden State. What I will say is this. This is what I'll say about this.
Starting point is 00:01:40 To me, this is proving to Draymond, fuck Chris Paul. This is proving to Draymond, we fuck with you because Draymond's a free agent. They get like, we see who the problem is. Let's get the problem out of here. Now, could we resign? But the fucked up shit is this. We don't know what Draymond is thinking because Draymond was just in Paris with LeBron. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:04 With the little bucket on and everything. Yeah, so you know all this bromance between Draymond was just in Paris with LeBron. Yeah, that's crazy. With the little bucket on and everything. Yeah, so you know all this bromance between Draymond. Bromance is crazy. Bromance between LeBron and Draymond is like, Draymond be like you did that a little too late. I already made my sign with the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:02:18 What I really believe is that, first of all it's a salary dump. They get rid of his $130 million. It's a salary dump. Now they can reconstruct Dray130 million. It's a salary dump. Now they can reconstruct Draymond's contract if they want him. But I really believe that with Sean Draymond, we fuck with you more than this guy. Chris Paul, as far as him being in Golden State, I don't know if that's going to last. Chris Paul might not make it past 4th of July in Golden State.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Yeah, I was going to say Thanksgiving. He definitely ain't going to make it to Thanksgiving. I mean, they got to get rid of him from season start like October. They got to get rid of him. He won't have a Halloween costume on when he goes to the state. Exactly. And what I think is this. Look, I'll fuck with... No, we dissed Chris Paul a lot on this show.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I'll fuck with Chris Paul. Chris Paul, I was looking at his numbers. He's doing... He did exceptionally well his whole career. Yeah, except for when the playoffs start. The best ability is availability. He's never fucking available. What I will say is this.
Starting point is 00:03:10 All that shit trying to go to Golden State and act like you telling Steph Curry to go to Golden State. I was just thinking about that. Yo, Clay, they gonna look at you like,
Starting point is 00:03:18 yo, would you get the fuck out of my face, boy? I cooked you, nigga. I cooked you. So he won't be able to be a coach there. Real quick, let's look up the amount of games that Steph Curry against Chris Paul and his average at the same time.
Starting point is 00:03:33 But what I'll say is this. No, he ain't going to be no coach there because, listen, they might fuck with Chris Paul, but not on that team because Chris Paul, he loves to get up. Let me talk to you. Yeah, Chris Paul, he loves to get up. Let me talk to you. Yeah, Chris Paul loves to. If you get one of these, even when we went to the game in Phoenix, he's not even dressed.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah, he was on the floor talking to the ref in the middle of the court. Yeah, and telling players. In street clothes. In street clothes and telling players what to do. It's like what we was talking about earlier before the show, like when a nigga don't want to practice. Yeah. It's like Chris Paul, one of them nigg. It's like what we was talking about earlier before the show when a nigga don't want to practice. It's like Chris Paul one of them niggas who's like, I'm a veteran.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I don't need to do this. And that's not going to get the respect of everybody. And it's crazy when you think about it because if he's sitting on the side, he just comes across like the guy that got his jersey half off, got the whistle in his mouth, pause while everybody's running. Like, yo, y'all need to run faster.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And then at the end of the season, when they're about to lose, Chris Paul comes out of nowhere and be like, yo, you know, it's times like this when you got to push through. And he's like, what? Yo, you wasn't even practicing, nigga. Yeah, you was never even there. So then it makes it crazy because Chris Paul, he's just like pretty much sabotaging himself with the way he goes about it. But I don't think he knows that.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I think that Chris Paul, I like, I think. Excellent career, though. Excellent career. 18 and 10 for the whole career. That's a great career. Just start coaching now because you're looking crazy. It's looking like they're just bouncing you around paws anyway. Yeah, well, the side that I do have is that,
Starting point is 00:05:09 so they face each other 55 times in games. Steph Curry has a winning record, 31 to 24, over Chris Paul. And then, of course, Steph's stats have been better. But, I mean, together on the same team. Look, the only way I can look at this. How are you going to have both of them on the court with Klay Thompson? What I'll say is this, is that I don't know if Chris Paul is willing to say, except maybe he should, coming off the bench and leading the second unit.
Starting point is 00:05:38 That's all I can see for Golden State. With the redhead guard that plays off the bench for Golden State? Oh, he's nice. I like that nigga. But I'm just saying. Him and Chris Paul will be bad. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Just thinking about him and Golden State, it don't make no sense from the start. He's going to slow that offense up. Yeah. Steph Curry and them niggas don't stop moving without the ball. Chris Paul wasn't. Nobody doing all that. Nobody's doing all that. So, I don't think he's going to last to go to state.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I think a trade's coming soon. I don't know. I think they definitely drafted, I mean, picked him and made the trade just to trade him. And they want to trade him. I would trade him for Paul George. I think I could see that happening. Where they take on Chris Paul, and then they say, you know what, where does he want to go?
Starting point is 00:06:30 It's almost like they snuck him away from the Wizards because they knew that the L.A. Clippers wanted him. He wants to go to L.A., whether it be the Clippers or the Lakers, he said, because he wants to finish his career because he hasn't been home with his family and he's based out of L.A. So, pardon me, I don't think he'll be mad with either L.A. team. Yeah. Well, I got to ask, okay, so Jordan Poole is a lot younger of a player. You know, I know people were trying to build teams on younger players.
Starting point is 00:06:55 DC is crazy. So, how do you, first of all, even think Jordan Poole feels about just being kind of kicked to the curb, Chris Paul coming in, if he does stay with the Warriors? What do you think about that? What do you think is going through his head? It doesn't make curb. Chris Paul coming in. If he does stay with the Warriors, what do you think about that? What do you think is going through his head? It doesn't make sense. More munches. He's going to have so many
Starting point is 00:07:11 more munches in D.C. He's definitely going to be Mr. Munchy in Chocolate City, baby. I ain't going to lie to you. And I'm going to go on the record of saying, I can see, all jokes aside, I can see Jordan Poole having almost like the career that James Harden had
Starting point is 00:07:32 when he went to Houston from OKC. I'm going to go on the record. So, Jordan Poole, you know we fooled you. Let's wait until the next segment. Listen, what I would say is this. Listen, what I would say is this. That whole situation in Golden State is toxic. I think since the beginning of the season,
Starting point is 00:07:57 they had to make a choice between Draymond and Jordan Poole after that snuff. And then they said, look, we're going to see at least if we get to the championship. And they see it didn't work. So then they had to make a decision. I seen Swaggy P was talking about it. I seen a lot of people saying Jordan Poole, just get out, because nobody likes you. It's not just that Draymond doesn't like him.
Starting point is 00:08:16 The rumors are Steph doesn't like him. Klay doesn't like him. Why don't you think they like him, though? Well, listen, he's probably arrogant. He's young. He's definitely arrogant. He's from Milwaukee. He's definitely arrogant. He's young. He's definitely arrogant. He's from Milwaukee. He's definitely arrogant. He's young.
Starting point is 00:08:27 He's arrogant. And he thinks that, and not thinks, he definitely helped them win that championship. Without him, they wouldn't have won that championship. And from all the things that I was hearing him say, not guaranteed, but they were saying there's reasons Draymond punched him in the face. They said the first day he told Draymond Green, you know, Michigan and Michigan State have beef. Draymond punched him in his face. They said the first day he told Draymond Green, you know Michigan and Michigan State have beef. Draymond Green is from Michigan State, he's from Michigan. Rob Markman That's already a lifetime rivalry right there.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Draymond Green Right. He told Draymond I fuck more bitches in Michigan State than you, than you went there. And then they was running sprints or something. He told Draymond don't worry about it, you'll be in Sacramento next year. Then he told Draymond. Rob't worry about it. You'll be in Sacramento next year. Then he told Draymond. That's crazy. Then he told Draymond, why is your Twitter handle money green when you broke and you're not going to get a new contract? And that's the one that broke the camel's back when you end up punching him in the face. So a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So that was a cover up then. That's what they're saying. And Draymond couldn't talk about it. So it's a lot of things that we don't see that going behind the scenes the niggas be like he can't keep talking to people like this because we're going to get smacked again so let's end this now while it's
Starting point is 00:09:34 only one punch in the face yeah so they gave him the money to keep him quiet I think that they thought gave him and Wiggins the money because I thought that they thought him and Wiggins would be the future like you got to realize Steph is 35 Draymond's 34, Clay's 33. Then Nukla, you know, Iguodala, he's 38, 39 years old. They're the older group, but I think that they're loyal to that bunch because Wiggins
Starting point is 00:09:58 and Poole was supposed to be the future. But it's just like, if you're going to win something now, this core of people who got you the four championships is not happy. Yeah. Okay. Well, also within that trade finalization, Jordan Poole also unfollowed Draymond off Instagram. For real? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:17 When was that? It literally just happened. He said unfollow. So you clearly, I guess the chemistry was fake. So it might be up. The chemistry was fake. It might be up if it might be up. The chemistry was fake. It might be up if they see each other. Chemistry was definitely fake.
Starting point is 00:10:29 You could tell that. You could tell that's why they didn't win. He said, I couldn't wait to unfollow this man. Yeah. He didn't want to see his face. That's crazy. Didn't want to see nothing. I think Jordan Poole is going to be bet off in the Wizards.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I really do. I think so, too too because i think that he'll we'll see the joy and pool that we seen with uh golden state the year they won the championship because what people don't remember is steph curry was hurt during that season that's what gave joy and pool the green light yeah and shake people up and do won't go on so on and so forth he didn't have that green light this season his minutes was down his production was down that year he got a lot of burn when stuff was hurt even to the point when stuff first came back stuff came off the bench for like four or five games and let him
Starting point is 00:11:15 start i think at the wizards he's gonna have a lot of freedom and we're gonna see the joint pool that we seen two years ago will they win i don know about that, but I think we'll see a better joint pool than last year. You got to make an all-star? In the East? Well, they don't do it like that, like East, West, you draft whoever, but... He's going to make an all-star. He might. He might.
Starting point is 00:11:35 I wouldn't put it... I think he might. He might think... It depends on what his coach lets him do. And he got all-star potential, I'll say that. They don't look like they have anybody else to get a ball to. Paul, he's going to have to shoot every time.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah. I mean, we'll see. Yeah, it might work out in his favor, so we'll see. So moving along to the other teams, the Memphis Grizzlies are getting Marcus Smart in a three-team deal. This would send Porzingis to the Celtics, and the Wizards would get Tyus Jones, Danilo Gallinari, Mike Muscla and the number 35 pick. What are your thoughts? What happened to keeping the team together? We just talked about that.
Starting point is 00:12:12 What happened to keeping the core people together? They didn't win. So ain't no need to keeping them together I guess. Marcus Smart not on Boston is crazy. To see him in Memphis is weird because I don't see where he's going to play when Ja comes back. I don't know what that was about. My opinion
Starting point is 00:12:32 is this. Boston don't give a fuck about niggas. They don't. Them niggas don't give a fuck. Niggas say, yo, listen man, we know all you did for us, Paul Pierce, but Brooklyn got a bag for you to return. They ain't even let Paul Pierce finish there. They said, we ain't going to give you $11 million a year.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Go over there to Brooklyn and get your last two years over there because we're not going to let you retire here for $11 million a year. We don't give a fuck if you're the truth or not. This is the truth. You got to go. Secondly, they did this shit to Isaiah Thomas. Isaiah Thomas' sister died
Starting point is 00:13:03 in the middle of the playoffs. God bless the day. Yeah, that was foul. Go get on a flight. Go check on his sister. Set up the funeral. All that. Come back and play with a broke hip. Broke hip in the playoffs against Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:13:16 They lose. He got to mourn his sister. Play with a broke hip. You know what they said? We sorry to hear your sister die, but your broke hip ass is getting traded to the Cavaliers because Kyrie's available. That's what they told her right after his sister died and right after that. Marcus Smart fucking died his hair green.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Every day he died his hair green. He didn't sell tickets. He didn't sell tickets. He didn't sell tickets. He didn't sell tickets. He didn't sell tickets. He didn't sell tickets. He didn't sell tickets.
Starting point is 00:13:36 He didn't sell tickets. He didn't sell tickets. He didn't sell tickets. He didn't sell tickets. Yeah, all type of diving on the floor, jumping around, loose balls, makes all defensive team. All this says to me is that he does not, people do not give a fuck in that GM office about the players at Boston.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Jumping on loose balls? Yeah. That would be great. Yeah. I said, I said, whoa. You were doing good today, Paul.
Starting point is 00:14:04 You were seeming very educated, so I was letting you roll. But listen, when you say jumping on loose balls, I just want to know where was your mind when you thought you were out of pocket. I'm way out of pocket, Paul. I'm out of pocket. I'm out of pocket. But I'll be, yo, I'm going to be wild petty. Just let me know. Let me know.
Starting point is 00:14:29 You trying to make up for 20 shows. I was letting you go. I was letting you go. Nah, nah. You was on a roll. Nah, let's play. You was rolling. Pause, let's play.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I said, you know what? Let's do it. Pause. Killer got my nose. He sounding crazy over there. Let's do it. Pause. But, yo. Anyway, Boston, you're right. I'm out of it. Force. Killer got my nose. He's sounding crazy over there. Let's do it. Force. Anyway, Boston, you're right.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I'm out of pocket. Yes. But everything's off limits now. Let's go. It's on. It's popping. But Boston front office don't give a fuck about the players, yo. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And yeah, according to his point, agreeing with Cam, is that, but I thought that was only with Danny Ains. But now Danny Ains is not there. They still following the legacy. Yeah, exactly. Brad Stevens was the coach when Danny Ains was doing it. So he's doing the same thing Danny Ains did. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:16 And listen. Because they used to blame it on Danny Ains. Right. That's a fact. But a lot of people going back to Isaiah Thomas, he also made Brad Stevens look good because he was the leading scorer. You know, Jalen Brown and Tatum was just getting there. He was the man.
Starting point is 00:15:31 He was scheduled to get like $130, $140 million, and that just went down the drain because his hip never recovered, and Cleveland was like, we're not giving you that kind of money, and you're not healthy. But he also helped Brad Stevens' career playing that good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Okay. So the question is, who won this trade? The Grizzlies, the Wizards, or the Celtics? That's a great question because, listen, I like poor Zingas, but he's another guy who's not always healthy. He has health issues. For him to be on the court, he's never fucking there. So it's a great question
Starting point is 00:16:07 because, look, it's a great replacement for John Moran, a steady point guard. Will they be able to coexist? We don't know what kind of... It looked like Marcus Smart been in the league
Starting point is 00:16:17 for a few minutes and they just get into the league. So when all that rah-rah shit, Marcus Smart be like, this ain't the way to do it, man. This ain't the way to do it. This ain't how you go about it. He's a professional.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah, this ain't how you go about doing it. Then back to what we said. That's probably good for him to be there now. But that's back to what we were saying about Chris Paul. Like, bro, you get there and don't win. Like, don't tell me when it takes to win a championship because you haven't won a championship. So if I had to pick one name out of hat, I would say Boston.
Starting point is 00:16:49 They got bigger, paused, and they wasn't doing it with that crew, with Marcus Smart. He's been there about three, four years. So I would go with Boston if I had to pick somebody. Okay. Yeah, I would go with Boston. I think the Wizards actually did good to get rid of all of their problems all on the same week.
Starting point is 00:17:08 If you ever have to dump all your sides on the same week, that's crazy. So that's kind of what they did. They got rid of the big contract with Bradley Bill. They got rid of – because they was never going to be able to rebuild with the people they had. So this week was a dream come true for a bright GM if he knows what he's doing. And I agree. I think that the Wizards are about to try and go young.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Like they'll go get Jordan Poole and then we'll see what else they add around it. But they realize it's not going to be an overnight process. I think they're starting their rebuilding with Jordan Poole. Well, I agree. Let us know what team you think won the trade. We'll be right back. Mm-hmm. Maybe I'm my own problem, babe. She's tired of hearing, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:10 My stubborn enemy won't fall. Dealing with this thing called trust. But she really thinking about wanting to be free. Welcome back. Okay, so we were all waiting for the news of Ja and finally got it. Ja will now deal with the madness not just off the court but on the court. As promised, Adam Silver announced that Ja will be suspended for 25 games. What do you think and do you think this will teach him a lesson? You want me?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yo, listen. I think 25 games, I thought it was going to be 50 games. I think Mur? Yo, listen. I think 25 games, I thought it was going to be 50 games. I think Murda said 25 games. Yeah. I think this is about right for the situation. I'm not mad at it.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Do I think this is going to teach Ja a lesson? I'm not sure about that because right after the suspension, Ja was lighting the candle with a gun that was a lighter talking about well, since it's all said and done,
Starting point is 00:19:10 this is really what I was holding. It was really a lighter. Niggas is like, yo, my nigga. My nigga. First of all, let me talk to Ja. Ja, come on, bro. Really? Really? Why don't you start putting your fingers like this
Starting point is 00:19:25 no matter what it is? If it's a lighter, if it's a gun, if it's a nail gun, stop doing this, yo. If it's a flashlight, don't do it. Could you stop doing this? Even when you make a three, don't do nothing.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Remotely gun, don't do it. Don't do nothing. Could you stop? Don't do nothing. Remotely gunned. Don't do nothing. When you come... Don't. Don't take the shit out. Don't put the shit back in your holster. Can you just stop doing this at any time for a week,
Starting point is 00:19:58 my nigga? Did you see that shit? It's trigger finger itchy. I gotta see that shit. Gotta be itchy. No, I gotta be. That shit gotta be itchy. The nigga lit up a candle with a lighter. Talk about, well, I ain't gonna say nothing. But this is it. John, come on.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I don't believe you. I don't believe you. And you know who's missing? T. Moran. Where the fuck are you at? You've been missing. Yo, all this shit popping. T. Moran acting like one of the men.
Starting point is 00:20:22 T. Moran got lost. T. Moran acting like a co-defender. T. Moran said, yo, I ain't here for all this bullshit. That nigga T. Morant ain't been found nowhere, my nigga. You know why? Because T. Morant one of them niggas. T. Morant went low like a federal agent.
Starting point is 00:20:38 T. Morant like a co-defendant one of them. T. Morant is DMX in belly. That nigga is missing. He got low when niggas was looking for that nigga. That nigga, listen. T-Morant, one of them niggas like, I don't see what my son did wrong when he was in the house. He ain't going to say it on television. He like, did we break any laws though?
Starting point is 00:20:57 Did we break any laws? That's an interesting thing because people are arguing, is it legal or is it right? And sometimes things that's legal, it's not right. For where he's going and what he's trying to do, what he's trying to betray, where his future is going, it's not right, even though it's legally right. And that's the thing that he's wrestling with in his mind. He's telling himself that this is right and everything he's doing, he got the legal right to do it, but it's not right because of his brand and because of the money that he's getting from it. The whole thing about it is legally right don't got nothing to do with the NBA laws.
Starting point is 00:21:32 The NBA has their own laws, whether it's legal. It can be legally right. Yeah. And then within the NBA. It's like weed being legal, but you can't smoke at halftime in front of anybody. Yeah, but the NBA has there own laws. Absolutely. A hundred percent. Same thing like for instance, and this was more of a
Starting point is 00:21:50 team thing, not even an NBA thing. Kyrie retweeted a book or whatever it was. A movie. And he gets in trouble. And he was gone in 60 seconds. Right. He was gone for doing that. But what I'm saying is the NBA didn't find nothing wrong with it. The team ended up saying you have to go to take these lessons and so on and so forth, whatever. But he didn't break any laws. But within the NBA has laws and then your team has laws. Yeah, exactly. So that's all I was saying too. No reference to the thing going on with Kyrie. I have no opinion in it. Just in case y'all confused with me trying to act like I'm
Starting point is 00:22:25 involved, I'm just giving a scenario of how the NBA and teams have their own laws. Look, I'll just say, Ja, put the trigger finger down. Not even the gun at this point. Anything remotely close to a gun just don't do it.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I think the road that he's traveling, something bad is going to happen. I'm not wishing it on him, but he's like on his fifth incident. Whether you think about the mall, you think of the calling his moms, the gun- Gia Peppers, The bus. Rob Markman, The bus. Gia Peppers, The blitzers.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Rob Markman, The flashing, the next gun, the strip club. It's like, it's going in the wrong... We from the streets, so we know where that's going. Rob Markman I'm going to keep it 100. Rob Markman And I think if they would have gave him more time, not I wish he had more time, but if they would have suspended him more, he would have learned his lesson. 25, he's not going to learn his lesson.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Rob Markman The reason Ja is not in jail, I believe, not which I wouldn't say he's a devil, because he's in the NBA. Let it have been Pooh Shiesty. Let it have been Pooh doing eight. For the same shit Ja run the ramp doing eight. The brand is protecting you, my nigga. And Boosie's selling the car to get out of this same situation. Yeah, Boosie in jail now.
Starting point is 00:23:49 They caught Boosie with a gun. Free Boosie. Definitely free my nigga Boosie. Free Boosie. That's a fact. They caught Boosie with a gun in his waist and frozen. He just walked past the screen. And who knows if it's real or not.
Starting point is 00:24:01 So the NBA stamp to me is also helping him from not getting to the next level of trouble. Because if you was a rapper, you'd been in jail by now. Yeah, he'd been in jail. And I think that the brand is causing him to not see his issue. And I forgot the word they use when you got somebody in your crew. Not a reverse groupie. What's a reverse groupie? To me, a reverse groupie? Yeah, yeah. Because some n, not a reverse groupie. What's a reverse groupie? To me, a reverse groupie?
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah. Yeah. Cause I call a reverse groupie when they can be like, listen, I ain't on your dick and nothing, man, but you know what I'm saying? I ain't sweating you or nothing,
Starting point is 00:24:34 man, but you know, I like, I fuck with you, but I, yeah, because if you gotta come up to them and say that, that then to me,
Starting point is 00:24:42 you're already thinking, I don't want to think I'm a groupie. So I got an extra not being like yo i don't suck dick and i'm no fuck nigga no that shit but i'll fuck with you but i don't want you think i'm on it up yo bro to me you're already trying so hard not to be a groupie that i call that a reverse group yeah so that's what niggas are doing with john they're being reverse groupie. Yeah, so that's what niggas are doing with Ja. They're being reverse groupies. They should be telling them this. So there's another word.
Starting point is 00:25:08 They're enabling them. That's what people used to say. You're enabling them. You're helping them do all the sick stuff that he's doing. Right. Okay. Well, Ja's been getting a bit of slack on social media because all eyes have been on Zion Williamson.
Starting point is 00:25:22 The adult entertainer he was messing with got Twitter fingers and threatened to release intimate videos of the two. What does all this mess do to his career? And what are your thoughts on her? I think it's NBA gun boy versus NBA porn boy. NBA gun boy. NBA gun Boy is wild
Starting point is 00:25:45 they brought them from South Carolina South Carolina they better stop sleeping on South Carolina they got some wild shit going on NBA Gun Boy vs NBA Porn Boy is wild but I think he's definitely
Starting point is 00:26:01 putting himself in a place where he's getting out of New Orleans. I think they're going to use this as a way to ship him to another team. They don't want to do it, but they're going to have to do it eventually. So before I get back to you, I'm going to take this time out to talk to the lady. Yes. Listen, you're threatening Zion on talking about you have sex tapes of you and him. It's sex tapes of you and mad niggas.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yo, you act like, yo, you got mad sex tapes. So you acting like you going to release some crazy shit with you and Zach. You have 400 sex tapes. Now, I see her tweets and all this. She talking about, she tagging. And she said, look, this is how she write, yo, NBA, I got sex tapes. And they on his trap phone, too. So this is what she about, she tagging. She said, this is how she write, yo NBA, I got sex tapes and they on his trap phone too. This is what she said on his trap phone.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Isn't that called like, what is that when somebody is trying to take money from you? Extortion? Yeah, she extorting y'all. Yeah, it's plain and simple, extortion. Yeah, you better chill out, Mariah. Yeah, she talking about she taking him to court
Starting point is 00:27:05 for emotional damages and all this other shit. Look, first of all, I was going to get back to you. I just want to defend my message to her. Listen, you releasing sex tapes of you and Zion is not going to hurt Zion. Everybody out of sex tape out. Now it's going to look like you
Starting point is 00:27:21 on some second shit. Now, if he released it and said, yo, I'm out here doing porn and all this, then I can see what the NBA like, yo, you're getting a little too nasty. But you're doing it to him. And secondly, with the niggas, we don't give a fuck. We like, yo, he got you hurt and you're a porn star.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah, you're making him look real. Listen, and this super pause, but it's to her. You literally asshole hurt, pun intended. Like, you fucking hurt my nigga over Zion and you fuck mad niggas.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Now, back to y'all, man. So, my thing is this. She's tweeting the NBA. She's making them look good. Exactly. Because if you got a porn star tripping over you that made me like what that's a fact because she didn't do this for the 400 people you got a tape with that is a fact zion looking super good because you not only threatening you hurt you could tell when you hurt
Starting point is 00:28:21 so when you had two dicks in you at one time, you wasn't hurt. Pause. But I'm talking about a bitch. No disrespects to that. But what I'm trying to say is this. Earmuffs, stat. Earmuffs. Earmuffs.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Go ahead. At the end of the day, you do wild, nasty shit. So like May said, I agree. Zion got you buggered. But back to the original topic, now New Orleans is talking about moving him because they talk about he's one injury away from his career. And then they showed the video of Brandon Ingrams walking by and then Zion walking by, and then you see all the baddies in the background
Starting point is 00:29:00 on their phones like this. And what makes you think, did Zion do all of them? Yeah, I'm not sure, but what I'm saying like this. Yeah. And what makes you think this? I ain't do all of them. Yeah, I'm not sure. But what I'm saying is this. The Pelicans are now talking about we may need to trade them. And even if it is for health reasons, this is kind of going back
Starting point is 00:29:14 to the original question. Yeah. They may not really have his back on this poor shit. They be like, what Cam and Mace talking about is cool. We don't need that type of shit
Starting point is 00:29:24 in our stadium with this wild shit cause now the general managers the owners everybody else it's a branding issue no not only that
Starting point is 00:29:33 but niggas wilds looking inside the owner wife hey Zion fuck you mean hey Zion
Starting point is 00:29:41 you got general managers walking around going like this, everybody. Put your hand down, Zion. What won't go on here is what happened in Boston. That's what we're not going to have here. We're not going to tolerate that. Yeah, yeah, we're not tolerating that.
Starting point is 00:29:57 So now let's say this, because now, like, look, you the GM, you the president of Zion, the way that your wife and son, now we got a meeting tomorrow. You're like, well, he only plays 34 games in two and a half years. How much more are we going to get out of him? Pause. And then she go, you're not talking about Zion,
Starting point is 00:30:13 are you? Right. You know, that nigga out of here. That one little remark from his wife got niggas going. Yeah, because you know what? Yeah, tonight. Tonight.
Starting point is 00:30:28 You know what? You're absolutely right, because you know why? When you go home, I heard you talking. I don't think y'all should get rid of Zion. The fuck you mean we shouldn't get rid of Zion? She in the middle of putting Noxzema on. Yeah, because I'll tell you now. Saying, I don't think you should get rid of Noxzema.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I heard you, baby. You don't need to get rid of Zion. Exactly. What? Because, listen, let me tell you something. I'm more mature now. And, you know, it took me, I would say, 44 years to be like, look, what am I going to do? What am I going to do?
Starting point is 00:30:57 And I really don't, you know, if I'm dealing with you, I deal with you. And our time together is our time together. I'm not saying go be a hoe or whatever. We're not together, but what you do on your own time, if that's what you want to do, that's on you. But there was a time where if I had a shorty, she better not laugh at my nigga joke too hard.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Because he ain't that funny, nigga. I don't see anything that motherfucking funny to be laughing at Mace that hard. Especially don't laugh don't laugh high school 21, 22 years.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Do not laugh at Mace jokes that hard, my nigga. You won't be seen again. Not in a bad way. You're not coming back around. I'm perfect. That's how I used to be, man. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:55 It's the truth. I had a girl. She was famous. She came over. She sat on the crate. She was smoking. She saw a killer in them. I told her, put her head down, right?
Starting point is 00:32:04 Put your head down. That's how we was raised, man. Forgive us, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Forgive us. Yeah, forgive us, though. Put your head down. Yeah, because if you smiling and all that, I don't know without smiling.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Y'all remember I caught one of my shorties staring at this football player. I'm embarrassed to be here. Y'all remember I caught one of my shorties staring at this football player. It's really tough. Hey, I'm embarrassing you. Yeah. Do that on your own time. Step on her toes while she got open toes on. Yeah. Y'all, you embarrassing me. One of these.
Starting point is 00:32:36 The fuck you talking about? She was gone next day, too. Don't do that outside, man. Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, that's the truth. Walk away and leave her a car to take her to the yeah sorry about that that's the truth walk away and leave her car to take her to the airport that's a fact she gotta get her own clothes that's a that's a super duper fact but we change now we change now don't judge us that's the fact don't judge me i
Starting point is 00:32:57 see that one hit a little yeah a little close okay well i will say there's a reason i didn't say her name because clearly you know she does want people talking about her. Like even Stephen A was talking about it. She did pop up in his live chat. Yeah. Trying to beat the allegations. But so a lot of discussion has been going around. Basically, the question is, why do you think so many athletes have been talking to adult entertainers?
Starting point is 00:33:22 It's a quick fix. Yeah. They know what they're doing. Yeah, they're pros and sometimes, listen. The same reason
Starting point is 00:33:29 you go to a professional lash tech. They know what they're doing. That's a simple question. Let me get to your level so you can understand. And listen, I don't,
Starting point is 00:33:42 how old is Shorty? She, she's in her late 30s, I believe. I'm going to search it. Okay, so Zion been beating off And listen, how old is Shorty? She's in her late 30s, I believe. I'm going to search it. Okay, so Zion's been beating off the odds since he was 12. He's been divorced. Yeah, he probably was looking at her like. I get the joint that I want.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Yeah, 31. Yeah, he got the joint. And she probably been in the business for a long time. Zion 22? Yeah. So when he was playing AAU, he saw. Yeah, 14 years old. You know, that porn normal, that's who he wanted.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And he ended up getting it. Yeah. Crazy. So the reason I think a lot of young people are getting rappers, young people with money, whether it's athletes, rappers, whoever, they see these female rappers that everybody wants. So they see these female porn stars. They see strippers. And now it's even more accessible because you have social media.
Starting point is 00:34:31 So now it's nothing but a DM. You ain't got to go to a club she was at. You ain't got to be where she was at. You send a DM, you fly her in. It's one, two, three. It's easy access. So I think that a lot of these young people getting money see these people what they wanted, and it's almost like a bucket list type of thing.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Just don't – your pull-out game got to be better than that. You know what I'm saying? Because you got the stripper, which maybe he likes her, but he ain't get – he said, I ain't going roaring that poor star. He can't do that. He can't do that, champ. Yeah, that would be wise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Okay, good. But as far as I just think, to answer your question, I think that you see these people growing up, and now you can actually get them and sometimes slip up. Okay, so basically. It might be reverse groupie. So basically, what would y'all's advice be to Zion dealing with this situation?
Starting point is 00:35:22 That's really. My advice to any young athlete, I'm talking about 14 and up who has the potential to go pro, overseas, a bright future, a lawyer, a doctor, go listen
Starting point is 00:35:38 to Snoop Doggy style album and your life will be set on not how to get caught up in these situations. Bitches ain't shit, suck my dick hoe, it don't matter just don't bite it. All of you that's on NWA Park, you know who's on there. Fuck a bitch ice cube song. Listen, what I'm trying to say is that
Starting point is 00:36:05 these songs will not get over in today's society, but it trains you not to be Scottie Pippen either. You know what I'm saying? Because one time I was talking to somebody and I said, yo, really forgive me. Snoop and Tushar was my pastor.
Starting point is 00:36:19 That's who I grew up as, my pastor. They gave me a doctrine to live by. And before I changed my life, that was what I listened to. Rob Markman Yeah, and to be honest with you- Rob Markman And they kept you from getting played though. Rob Markman That's exactly why. People think I'm trying to be funny and it probably is funny.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Rob Markman Well, you're not being funny. Rob Markman But he's 100% right. That's why I named that album, because I realized we're 15, 14, and this was the hottest thing in the world moving, and all they did was say, bitches ain't shit. And it was good music behind it as well, but it made you be like, get the fuck out. If a girl tried to get something from you, it was like, hell no.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Now that you're older, you got some money, and you really love somebody, you want to fuck with them, it's nothing wrong with getting them something, but growing up, listening to that. I'll give you an example. All sports, because we were talking about Scottie Pippen, how Scottie Pippen's wife is going to get
Starting point is 00:37:10 half of his retirement. Half of his retirement? She already got the first half. First of all, it's another ring for the Jordan family. She's doing this like a concert. She got the front end and now she's about to get the back end. She got the front end and now she's about to get the back end.
Starting point is 00:37:27 That's a fact. That's a fact. It's definitely like a show. She said, I'm about to get the back end, baby. That's a fact. You with the back end. We got to change it. Larsa Pippen.
Starting point is 00:37:39 That's a fact, man. But who was we talking about before Scotty? I was just about to say something. You told my Zion. Damn, it wasn't Zion. And about how- You told about Snoop and all these niggas, but I forget who I was going to talk about. But those albums have saved you from being played, whether today it's all good or not.
Starting point is 00:37:59 And listen, don't get me wrong, those are some harsh-ass records. Those just was harsh. It's good records out today that don't have to disrespect females that's what i was going to talk about steve harvey not to jump off one thing and go to steve harvey so i've seen an interview recently with steve harvey and he's like yo man um i went broke twice both my wives got everything and i had to start from scratch steve harvey said that two times got him. Now he got a new wife. But two times his wife took his money. Basically, he said he had something like $1,300 in his account when it was all said and done.
Starting point is 00:38:35 And did she come back and help him? No. Get an apartment? Get a house? No. Get a car? Get on a seat? The same interview.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Nothing. The same interview, he's telling this story. He says, about 20, 25 minutes later in the interview, he says, listen, I don't understand these niggas out here talking about what a woman bring to the table. She brings herself. She brings the value of her being a woman. You supposed to take care of her and nurture her and make sure that she's right and live by that.
Starting point is 00:39:03 And I'm sitting there saying, maybe that's why you went broke two times, saying the same shit that you're about to do again. Because you're just a sucker. When you see females, you're going to get the money or whatever. Yeah, there's no difference between helping a woman and being a sucker. And I think people are missing that. Right, absolutely. When you think about helping a woman, it's like you're helping her as she's helping you fulfill a legacy.
Starting point is 00:39:26 But you're not just keeping her fly for the next guy to come smash her. That's what they're doing. And that's being a sucker. You know what hurts? When you spend so much money on getting your girl body done and then she leave you and another nigga clapping your work. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. You're paying for his excitement.
Starting point is 00:39:41 that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. You're paying for his excitement. So you're dressing her up for the broke guy to just come and do whatever with her. Whatever he want to do with her. And listen, ladies,
Starting point is 00:39:53 I believe y'all supposed to get everything y'all supposed to get. But if you ain't supposed to get it, you ain't supposed to get it. And there's no way this girl should be getting retirement money. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And sometimes that's the issue because you meet her one way and you're trying to make her something that you are instead of just buy her the best of what she was already getting. Yeah, so...
Starting point is 00:40:14 Don't try to make her what you are. Right, exactly. So if she was getting Converse, get her the hot tops. Yeah, get her hot tops. Yeah, exactly. Get her all of them.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah, all colors of hot tops. All of them. Exactly. Because if you change your mind and start giving her things that you do and you get, then it changes out into you. And now, yeah. That happened to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:34 That happened to me. That happened to me. Yeah. That's how you ruin a good woman. That's a fact. By making a materialistic. Yo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:41 You, you. That's why I got you up here. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly why I got you up here Yeah That's exactly why I got you up here Yeah That's exactly why You bought all the Converse And the t-shirt to match That's a fact
Starting point is 00:40:52 Because now And when the hoodie come out Put rhinestones on it Exactly That's what you gotta do That happened to me Bitch She never been in Louis
Starting point is 00:41:02 Never been in Gucci You getting a Louis and Gucci. And now all she want is Louis and Gucci. Exactly. And you're like, that's not what you wanted. You wanted Old Navy. You were schooling Old Navy. This is a fact.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Yeah, you wanted Brooks Brothers. Yeah, exactly. I should have never took you. Exactly. Forever 21 or forever. That's why it's called Forever 21. Forever 21. And then the relationship would have lasted forever. That's true.
Starting point is 00:41:31 That's true. As soon as you start by a girl that's not used to high-end shit, this is all they want. And then instead of them going to hustle hard, they'll be like, you know what? My nigga bought me this. My nigga bought me that. I want to get this for myself one day. Nah, they waiting on the next time he going to get it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:46 Don't worry, Stat. We'll get you some shit because you our sister. You like our little sister. You know what I'm saying? I'm getting her the best of everything she already get. Yeah, nah, Stat. No, what I'm going to do is Stat my sister so it's like I'll show you where the nigga should be trying to get you one day.
Starting point is 00:42:01 But this is the last step. We're going to keep paying you a check and then you're going to be able to buy. She know that. They definitely put me on game, but it's good. It's all good things. And I also have to preface because people think I'm related. We're not related, y'all. Just so y'all know. And also, back to what you guys were saying
Starting point is 00:42:18 in relation to Zion, that's probably why the other girl was mad because Zion was not helping her out, which is why she's saying all the things that she's saying now, but let us know what you guys think about the situation We'll be right back. Yeah The last night performance we We gonna do this again? Yeah. Not tonight. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:42:49 And make sure you close the door behind you. I'm Rico fucking strong Baby I'm back Oh my god Oh my god I'm back! Oh my god! Oh hell no! Boy, get up! Drink this! Drink it! Right now? Drink it, drink it! right now right now right now yeah welcome back okay so a couple players have declined their multi-million dollar player option,
Starting point is 00:44:09 including Bruce Brown, Draymond Green, Chris Middleton, and Kyle Kuzma. What do you think is next for them? That's really interesting. When you think of Bruce Brown, he got to get paid more money. He got more money in his future. The way he performed in the finals, the way his composure, being such an aggressive offensive player and on defense of being a two-way player, he definitely should get paid a whole lot more money.
Starting point is 00:44:39 So I could see him just doing this just to go back to Denver, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's on another team next year. If they give him an offer that he can't refuse. And who else was that? Draymond Green. Draymond Green. He got to go back. He got to go back to the worries.
Starting point is 00:45:02 But, you know, his bromance is questionable. It seemed like he wants to play in L.A. I'm looking at his paws and his eyes. I think, you know, it'd be fucked up if they get rid of Jordan Poole and then he go play at the Lakers. That'd be really fucked up. Yeah. I think they got rid of Jordan Poole.
Starting point is 00:45:20 I'm not saying the chemistry wasn't right, but I think the number one reason they got rid of him was for Draymond. I think he would have left if Jordan stayed, but I think now that they've done that, it's putting pressure on him. I think he was already out the door. He was in Europe,
Starting point is 00:45:40 him and LeBron. Yeah, they're just in Paris together. I'll say this. Before Bruce Brown, he was scheduled to make $6.8 million this year. Absolutely. He got to get out of there. He got to get out of there.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Or they have to reconstruct his contract. I think if Denver was smart, they'd reconstruct his contract. If not, the best, best place or the best GM right now, if they're really smart, would be the Suns. Steal him from Denver right now while you can. If you're the Phoenix Suns and you just got Bradley Beal, and you can steal Bruce Brown from Denver, which takes away from them as the y'all,
Starting point is 00:46:15 and bring him off the bench, I think that that gives the Suns a little more leverage because he was such a key piece in them winning the championship. But if I'm the Suns, that's what I'm doing immediately. I got to steal Bruce Brown from Denver. You think they have enough money and cap space to do that? I don't know. That's the question.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I don't know how that works with cap space because I know. But that would be a genius move. That would make them the new favorite. Yeah, exactly. You know, so I say that's what I would do if I was Bruce Brown. But Denver, if they're smart, they'll keep him. I see Mike Malone at the parade. I thought he ran a fucking record label.
Starting point is 00:46:50 This nigga was outside Diddy Bop and Gold Chain on. He said, Brucey B ain't going nowhere. I said, yo, this nigga right here run a record label, man. So that's what I would do if I was the Suns. And if I was Denver, I would definitely get Bruce Brown back. Kyle Kuzma I don't really care about where he goes. Draymond definitely try and get back
Starting point is 00:47:12 in Golden State. If that's what Golden State wants, like Murda said, you really don't know. The one thing that I would say is this, is that Chris Middleton you bugging the fuck out. You had $40 million on the table and you bugging the fuck out. Yeah, he left $40 million on the table. $40 million on the table and you didn't go get it.
Starting point is 00:47:28 You didn't have that good of a season last year. You was hurt for the last two years. You had a pretty shitty season. So listen, you must know something that we don't know, my nigga, because to leave $40 million on the table, I hope you get it from somewhere. I hope Milwaukee Reconstruction Contract is that these salary caps are going up so much that niggas are like, oh, no, I can get $48 million a year.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Because the salary caps keep going up. But for him to leave $40 million on the table is beyond me. I have no reason why he's doing that. I think it's the city that they be in. Would you want to have $ 40 million and live in Kansas? Knowing what you know now. Would you live in, 40 million, you live in Kansas? If I'm winning championships, if I'm a contender, if it's going to keep me out of trouble.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, if you got a family, you could live there. Yeah, absolutely. But I think they start thinking about Miami and all these other places they could go. These niggas make enough money in a game, in 20 minutes, to take a jet wherever they want to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:31 You know what I'm saying? It ain't like if you live in Milwaukee and he's from South Carolina, you'll be home in two and a half hours. You live on a jet. Any city that you're in, don't get me wrong, you could go out and party or do whatever, but your main focus is to be there for basketball. Not for your surroundings.
Starting point is 00:48:48 You know what I'm saying? If you really want to do that on your days off, take a jet wherever the fuck you want to go and go back. But I just don't understand why Chris Middleton is leaving. And they won a championship. Yeah, so a lot of times it'd be their family, their wives and stuff. She is in his ear telling them, you don't want
Starting point is 00:49:03 to be in L.A.? Don't we have fun in L.A.? And really, that's not the best place. Yeah, but that goes back to doggy style, of course. That goes back to, yo, bitch, get out my face, man. I'm here for one reason, and one reason only is to win championships. And guys got to stop letting ladies move them to California. Yeah, because that's where you get half at. That's where you get half at.
Starting point is 00:49:24 That's exactly. 60%. Yeah, 60%. I know. Yeah, because that's where you get half at. That's where you get half at. 60. 60%. I know. You think you're getting a fresh start? You're getting a fresh start. She's getting a fresh back end. The back end is crazy. That's crazy because I never looked at it like a show.
Starting point is 00:49:39 You get your front end the whole show and then the back end on retirement is wild. That's my opinion about all the four people you named. Okay. We definitely went a couple ways. What if he wasn't going to LA? What if he was going to
Starting point is 00:49:55 Atlanta or somewhere else? People don't go to Atlanta because the child support is very low. It's like 300 a kid or something. That's not the a kid or something. Okay. So that's not the place to go and break up. So you basically... It's on the family.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Basically chicks know not to go there. Chicks know not to go to Atlanta and get cute. Yeah. Don't get cute in Atlanta. Gotcha. Where you live? Atlanta. You sent me a... I'll just say I used to live in LA
Starting point is 00:50:33 I'm just playing. You know I'm just playing. You know I'm just playing. You know I'm just playing. You know I was just saying That was a show they scripted I'm just asking You said don't go to Atlanta and get cute Don't go to Atlanta and get cute You said don't go to Atlanta and get cute
Starting point is 00:51:18 Nigga Oh shit man Plus somebody bring me a paper towel Yeah for real Sorry about that That's why people had to get out of lanta they got pregnant in lanta she said i gotta get out here i gotta get an athlete somewhere because the land ain't gonna be good okay that's not where i was expecting that to go alright well we touched on the Suns
Starting point is 00:51:46 a little bit but a trade that was finalized included Bradley Beal to the Phoenix Suns this will land the Wizards 6 second round draft picks and 4 first round pick swaps do you think a KD Bradley Beal and Devin Booker trio is a winning trio look this is what I'll
Starting point is 00:52:04 say ever since winning trio? Look, this is what I'll say. Ever since, this is good for now, Wig. Ever since Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen went to Boston, people think that this is the remedy for a championship
Starting point is 00:52:22 because they say you need three and not two anymore used to be two yeah it used to be two so now it's three so first championship you got uh kevin garnett ray allen paul pitts then you got kobe bynum pal gasol you know i'm saying then you got lebron bosh wade so people are thinking you need three to win it. Dirk Nowitzki, I don't remember. No, maybe they had the Jet. The Jet, Terry Young.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And what's the Lord do? Barrera. Yeah, but I'm saying besides Dirk, it wasn't like. You know, you still could win without having three. But I think people think of the remedy. Is this the three to win it? I say if they get Bruce Brown. Right now, I'm not going against Denver
Starting point is 00:53:09 depending on where Bruce Brown ends up. Denver is going to be more confident next year. After you win, you get a new chip on your shoulder. The Diddy Bop is different. The Diddy Bop is way different. I think they have a great starting five. They play eight players through this whole playoffs. I think they have a core eight in five. They play eight players through this whole playoffs.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I think they have a core eight. Not saying they're going to play more than eight in a regular season, but what I say is this. It takes a strong eight to win the championship. It definitely does. I think wherever Bruce Brown ends up is very important, even if it's not Golden State.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I mean, pardon me, even if it's not Phoenix or not Denver. Where he ends up is important if it's going to be contender but the reason I give the Nuggets the advantage for next year is because I have a feeling Bruce Brown to end up there but that's the only reason I'm getting the advantage but to answer your question I think Phoenix is close looks good on paper but you know what else look good on paper Kyrie Hart and then Durant that look great on paper a lot of shit look good on paper so Kyrie, Hart, and then Durant. That look great on paper. A lot of shit look good on paper. So out on paper, yes, it looks great.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Even Porzingis and the rest of them look good on paper. Yeah, Porzingis, Tatum, and Brown. And Brown, that looks great on paper. Now, and, no, they got rid of Smart. Yeah, it looks great on paper. What are we going to see when it's time to play? That's what I'll say. Good points. Yeah, anytime you're talking about championship, it's always the same thing.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Two of the games are won by the star. One game is won by the bench. And another game is won that they wasn't supposed to win. So you got to have somebody come off the bench. Okay. So who would you choose? KD, Bradley Beal, and Devin Booker? Or Steph, Klay, and now CB3?
Starting point is 00:54:46 I'm taking Klay, and now CB3? I'm taking KD, man. I'm not going nowhere. Chris Paul goes to be a favorite. When Chris Paul with a chip, he coming to see you for real. Listen, listen. I was waiting for Chris Paul yesterday at the
Starting point is 00:55:01 Players Association. We went to the draft party the other night. I didn't go because I didn't want to see Chris. I was waiting for Chris Paul yesterday at the Players Association. We went to the draft party the other night. I didn't go because I didn't want to see Chris. I was waiting for Chris like this. I said, Chris, go ahead. I was waiting for Chris to come. I was waiting for Chris to pull up. They kept saying Chris was coming.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Pause. He never came. Pause. And so I'm like, I'm out, man. You know, I'm not going to sit and wait for Chris. I thought we have a word because he ain't say nothing to us in Phoenix. So I just wanted to make sure that we were good. That's why I didn't come. I was letting y'all have a word. Yeah, but, you know, I'm not going to say it. Wait for Chris. I thought we have a word because he ain't say nothing to us in Phoenix. So I just wanted to make sure that we were good. That's why I didn't come.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I was letting y'all have a word. Yeah, but, you know, not bad. I just wanted to make like, Chris, don't take shit personal. You know, we just telling you what the fuck you're doing. I'm his journalism, yeah. Yeah, so he didn't show up nonetheless. But the moral of the story is, and there's no disrespect, Chris, I just don't think wherever you go, who's going to win.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I think you're a top 10 point guard of all time. I think you'd be perfect like we was talking about before in San Antonio. That's where you need to go, Chris. San Antonio. That's exactly where you need to go. Go to my team, San Antonio. You got a Hall of Fame coach, Greg Popovich.
Starting point is 00:55:59 You got somebody brand new who's willing to listen to you. Brand new player who'll take the experience and be like, he's veteran in the nba and then he can he can he can lax off on defense reach and run because you got somebody at seven five yeah absolutely and then you could throw a bunch it'll be live city again so i think a great place for chris paul is san antonio sorry chris i didn't mean to just throw you away like that but But San Antonio would be a great place. You could teach the kid. You got Greg Popovich.
Starting point is 00:56:29 He probably loves you. It's a great place for you to end up at. All good points. We'll be right back. She called this thing about toxic Boy isn't counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know
Starting point is 00:57:03 What's happening, me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking bout us She wanna be free Why am I in this one way She wanna be free Hell I don't wanna see her walk away free welcome back another person who was brought up in trade rumors is damian lillard he has made it clear he doesn't want to be part of a youth movement with a young player in a rebuild. It's rumored that Miami Heat is targeting him. Where could you see him going? I like the Heat for him, but anywhere but Portland.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Look, Dame, you racked the fuck up. Dame went out, they got them $210 million, $250 million checks. Dame probably got close to a half a billion dollars in Portland. Dame, you got your money. Go where you're going to win a chip. Now, I don't know if Miami, if that's going to get them over the hump for him to win a chip. I would say it's definitely a plus. Definitely a plus for him to be in Miami.
Starting point is 00:58:19 But it's a plus for him to be in LA with the Lakers. There's a lot of places Dame Dash, I mean Dame Dash, Dame Dollar. What up, Dame? My nigga Dash. There's a lot of places that Dame Dollar is going to be an asset. But for him to leave and not win a championship, it doesn't make sense. So it has to be somewhere that's not only going to be a contender, more is going to be realistic.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Because one thing, like, well, there'll be a contender. They ain't been struggling with a team for years. They don't want to contend. Yeah, he needs to win. They don't want to be on the contenders. Exactly. So Miami, I don't know. Listen.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Well, where else could he go that he can contend? I was about to say the East, it's a lot of, like, Miami getting, him and Miami could get them to the chip. Yeah. But are you going to beat Denver? Are you going to beat the Suns? So you could say, just to get us to the East Championship, at least the Eastern Conference Finals,
Starting point is 00:59:09 but is it going to get you beating a healthy Denver, beating a healthy Phoenix, beating a healthy Golden State, depending on who they get next season? Build, beat, and not saying that they're even going to make it, but I can't wait to see what Sacramento going to do. So if Middleton opts out. He's out. He opted out.
Starting point is 00:59:28 He opts out. What do you think about Damian Lillard with Giannis? I like that as well. It's just that, is that going to do it? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it won't be enough. Yeah, like they need a shooter. Middleton is a shooter.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Middleton is. And not saying Damian. He spreads the floor. Exactly. Not saying Damian Lillard can Middle turn. And not saying Damian. He spreads the floor. Exactly. Not saying Damian Lillard can't shoot, but we know Giannis is not shooting the three. You're going to leave him open whether he makes it or not. I don't think that puts them over the top.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Listen, Giannis wasn't 100%. And I don't care what's going on. He played. Jimmy Butler beat them. You get what I'm saying? So I'm not saying Damian Lillard doesn't add a so-called X-factor. I'm not looking at the East for Damian Lillard
Starting point is 01:00:09 or any team in the East. Any team in the East, even if New York or whoever, I can get them to the championship. Do you beat Denver? Do you beat Phoenix? Do you beat who gets to the championship out the West? That's what I'm saying. I don't see where he could win, honestly.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Yeah, that's a good one. I think wherever he goes is just a better team to lose on. Dang. Yeah. I got to tell the truth. It is what it is. It is what it is. Don't put that sign there for nothing.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Right. It's a fact. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll see what happens. Because if he goes to the Lakers, realistically, if he goes to the Lakers, then they got to unload a lot of the talent that's there. I don't see Chauncey Billups in Portland receiving.
Starting point is 01:00:54 What's the left-handed kid named that snitched on Kobe? He's free agent, too. Yeah, so he's gone. That's a salary there. Would you really get rid of all of those other pieces they got that played very well in the playoffs? They revamped that team. If you take Austin Rivers and what's the other guy named
Starting point is 01:01:17 that was working out with LeBron that was at the Wizards as well, if you take them two off that team, you just got an old team. Yeah. Like a few minutes ago, you said unload the talent, which is crazy. Wow. That's revenge pause.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I'm just saying unload the talent. That's revenge pause. That's crazy. Revenge pause. You was doing so well. I didn't want to interrupt you. You was on the roll you sounded so educated
Starting point is 01:01:48 I didn't want to interrupt you yeah he got you so I didn't want to interrupt you while he was doing that but unload the talent it's kind of crazy that was out of pocket that was out a pocket.
Starting point is 01:02:06 That was on a pocket. It was even today. Fucking Bob Tomar. That was a good one. I gotta give it to him. That was a good one. Thank you. He's laying. He's laying from the right moment.
Starting point is 01:02:22 He got it. Yeah, I'll give it all. That's a fact. Well, moving along. Back in 2010, Michael Jordan bought his share of the Charlotte Hornets for $275 million. It's 13 years later, and he sold his majority stake for $3 billion. What are your thoughts? How much did he invest?
Starting point is 01:02:45 He originally bought it for $275 million. Wow. Sold it for $3 billion. What are your thoughts? How much did he invest? He originally bought it for $275 million. Wow. Sold it for $3 billion. Fucking flip. A thousand percent flip. It's crazy. Crazy. What I think,
Starting point is 01:02:58 listen, man, congrats to Michael Jordan. I think that was a great business decision. But look, Mike, you ain't done shit since you've been over there. You ain't done a goddamn thing. Every year, they stink it up. It's terrible.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And listen, I don't think a lot of it's not your fault. Look, you get LaMelo Ball, he's always fucking hurt. He's a superstar. He could be a superstar. All-star, but he's always hurt. He's not available. He's must-see TV, so this fucks up your legacy as far as being an owner. Because as far as a player, listen, you're our number one.
Starting point is 01:03:30 People still wear your sneakers and everything else. But as far as being a general manager, an owner, or whatever your position, president at the time, different positions you had, it has done nothing to get Charlotte out of the first round. And probably they met their players maybe four times that I remember and never out of the first round. So take your money and go do some new shit. Congratulations. Yeah, because for the state of North Carolina, for him to be from there,
Starting point is 01:03:56 he hasn't really done much for that state, especially when it comes to basketball as an owner. And it will be just their luck that Jordan leaves and they start winning. That's what happens. You know what happens to Don Mattingly for the Yankees? He played 20 years of having long for the Yankees. The first year he left, they won the championship. Sometimes you're that black cloud and you don't realize it.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Yeah, even though you can play well, sometimes the best players make the most horrible coaches because they're so gifted that they don't realize other people had to work to get there. Right. You know, and this is a friend of ours too, Allen Noveson, right? Yeah. So Allen Noveson, I really, this is a dilemma. I would like to ask you about this.
Starting point is 01:04:41 So Allen Noveson is like, he doesn't have a job with the philadelphia 76ers and he should have at least some type of coaching job within that organization and everything as a player says absolutely he should but to be honest what alan novison got is god-given you can't teach what he has so i'm sitting there saying to myself, how does he teach? Spinning it off to the top of the... So I think he should have some type of job within the
Starting point is 01:05:13 Philadelphia organization, but... You said as a coach, though. No, this is how he was feeling. He said that he doesn't understand why he has some position. He shouldn't be a coach. He definitely can't coach. Nobody could do that shit he was doing. That shit was some god-given time you can't teach that how you gonna be the coach if you don't like to go to practice each other, Meeble. Right? Yeah, your most famous soundbite. Yeah, your most famous soundbite. Hey, y'all, man,
Starting point is 01:05:45 I got your support from Coach Murder. Listen, Murder been going around telling everybody for the last three months he beat you in a one-on-one. He keeps saying that
Starting point is 01:05:54 to everybody. I need you to come run down with him and let us know that he really beat you in a one-on-one. I got the footage. You keep saying
Starting point is 01:06:03 the footage. I got the footage. Where's the footage at? I got the audio even of him saying it. Where's the footage at? I got the audio even of him saying it. Where is the footage at, Beth? It's coming out in the documentary. But listen, man.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I can't reveal all my sources. But yeah, listen, man, shout out to A.I. A.I., you should have a definite role in the organization. Just not practice. Just not practice. So what would he be able to do?
Starting point is 01:06:30 GM. He knows the talent. He knows which team, which arm got to pick. He could put teams together. So he should work up there in the GM role. I'm not mad at that. It's the same thing they do with Isaiah. Isaiah walks around.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Isaiah knows, like he said, okay, get Bradley Bill. Just, you know, people and there it is. Gotcha. Consultant. Mm-hmm. Yep. Okay. Well, guys, the NBA draft picks are officially in. Yeah. Victor Wemignano went first overall to the Spurs,
Starting point is 01:06:59 but selected second overall to the Charlotte Hornets was Brandon Miller, who went viral for saying his NBA goat. He said, I actually don't think LeBron is the goat of basketball. I can see this is already bad. My goat of basketball is Paul George. I grew up watching him, so it's never just LeBron. This is dumb. This is dumb.
Starting point is 01:07:25 This is dumb and dumber. This is this is Macklemore getting the album of the year. It sounds like all of that. You remember Kendrick was supposed to win the album of the year and they gave it to Macklemore.
Starting point is 01:07:41 That's how this sounds when I hear it. It's just the ignorance. I don't know if I want to Macklemore. That's how this sounds when I hear it. You gotta pop some tags. It's just the ignorance. I don't know if I want to talk about this. The thrift store. Remember the thrift store album? That was the gold of that year. Yo, listen. I'm just like, for real, y'all niggas do the weed test
Starting point is 01:08:05 These niggas is on Different drugs, synthetics NBA, nah seriously Cause these kids do other shit They chop up Perks, 30s You know what I'm saying The fucking Tylenol
Starting point is 01:08:19 They gotta start testing He on a 30 or 3 tears I don't know he want to purchase 29 50 listen it's a new number for them they gotta do them drug tests because perk 40 yeah he gotta be because it's paul george is the goat like listen my nigga i don't i don't see and listen paul george is a solid nba player i don't know where you get I grew up watching Paul George at more than LeBron, more than Kevin Durant. Where is he from? That's a good question.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Where is he from, Stephanie? That's a great question. I think he played at Alabama, but I'm going to search. Yeah, because he grew up watching Paul George. Yeah, and Paul George from... So you're thinking he's wearing 24 for Kobe. He's wearing 24 because of Paul. He's from Nashville, Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Dumb and dumber. How far is that from Indiana? Let's do 24 for Kobe. He's wearing 24 because of Paul. He's from Nashville, Tennessee. Dumb and dumber. How far is that from Indiana? Let's do the map search. It got to be close to the Pacers. And I was rooting for him. He's starting his career off wrong. But not only that, he could have been rooting
Starting point is 01:09:17 for somebody in Memphis because, you know, Nashville is in fucking... I mean, Nashville is in Tennessee and so is Memphis. Oh, I know who this is in Tennessee and so is Memphis. Oh, I know who this is. This is the same nigga that said Michael Jordan is a regular dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:33 He said, listen, man, I don't even, you smack the turkey shit out you, nigga. What the fuck is wrong with you, man? Look, I just got to smack dog shit out you, nigga. What the fuck is wrong with you, man? Yeah. What's wrong with you, man? He's a good kid. He got no big brother, nothing, nigga. Fuckin' me, Paul Jordan, the dope nigga. I'll smack the butterball turkey shit out you, nigga. You got your motherfuckin' mama. Yo, Stanley. Nigga, don't start shittin'. Start rappin' up. He said, Mike is regular. Yo, start rappin' shit up, Stanley.
Starting point is 01:09:50 He said, Mike is regular. Nah, we ain't got a good witness, nigga. This nigga on the phone. He said a lot of things. He was like, Michael Jordan airballed a lot of people. He was like, I'm not gonna do this shit. I'm not gonna do this shit. I'm not gonna do this shit.
Starting point is 01:09:58 I'm not gonna do this shit. I'm not gonna do this shit. I'm not gonna do this shit. I'm not gonna do this shit. I'm not gonna do this shit. I'm not gonna do this shit. I'm not gonna do this shit. I'm not gonna do this shit. I'm not gonna do this shit. I'm not gonna do this shit. I, sir, wrap this shit up, sir. He said Mike is regular. Nah, we ain't got a good witness here.
Starting point is 01:10:07 He said a lot of things. He was like Michael Jordan airballed a free throw at their draft workout. I don't know. Maybe he's just trying to be different, I guess. He's trying to go viral. That's what he's trying to do. You remember Lonzo Ball or one of them guys when they was like, somebody is better than Nas or something like that?
Starting point is 01:10:24 It was like one of those things. No, the older brother. Yeah. Yeah, Lonzo. Yeah, Lonzo. Yeah, I remember that. He was like, Nas is alright. It was something crazy. It was something to that effect. Yeah, it was stupid. Yeah, it was dumb as shit.
Starting point is 01:10:40 It was stupid. Yeah, that's exactly... Well, listen, man. And no matter how talented you are, if you're stupid, you're going to end up doing something else stupid. My, that's exact. But listen, man. And no matter how talented you are, if you're stupid, you're going to end up doing something else stupid. My thing is this. I could go for Lonzo saying, and I'm not going to agree with him whatsoever, because
Starting point is 01:10:56 he's not in the rap field. This nigga's in the basketball field saying that Paul George was his goat. Now listen, Paul. I think he said Nas was irrelevant. It was something crazy. No, I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I know exactly what you're talking about. But what I'm saying is he's not a rapper. Yeah, you just got to be more self-aware. Like, these younglings don't have no self-awareness. Like, you got to know when you're in the presence of something better than yourself. Let me ask you this. Have you ever bought a pair of Paul Georges? You ever had a pair of Paul Georges?
Starting point is 01:11:30 Yo, I got to get the new Paul Georges. I bought them for the AU team. I didn't even know he had sneakers. Yeah. I didn't even know. I ain't never hear a nigga talk about. Then why you ain't balling in the Paul Georges? If I thought Mike was my gold, I'd be playing in Mike's.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Yeah, I'm just saying I never seen niggas talking about, yo, you got them new, I'm the Georges. You got them P4s? Yeah. Nah, I like more Georgians. I like more Georgians. I like more Georgians, too. I like more Georgians.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Especially after that injury he had and the comeback and ball out the way he did. But even before the injury, we don't do goat talk with Paul. We do, at the most, second teamteam All-NBA at his height. Third-team All-NBA. I'm thinking if Paul didn't get hurt, he would have been up there, but not up there. So let me ask you this, right? There's a series of people who have been hurt in their career. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Penny. Let me get the list. If Penny ain't get hurt, would you put him above Penny? Absolutely not. If Tracy McGrady ain't get hurt like he can't get hurt, would you put him above penny? Absolutely not if they seem a great he ain't get hurt like he can get hurt. Would you put him? He is gonna say that absolutely so then what are we told my you got hurt man? I think it's got hurt Yeah, you get what I'm saying? So I rose got her I give you proper that was a gruesome injury
Starting point is 01:12:41 But go now shorty on crack crack baby cracked baby was he born in the 80s too young for the 80s probably 2000. but he but he's from he he lived out there close to memphis no i'm saying his parents born the 80s they got crack in them still yeah that's it that stuff that's it yeah exactly and then it lingers into their kids no disrespect i'm just saying i'm not talking about him i'm just saying that happens'm not talking about him. I'm just saying it happens. Okay. But he also drove to bring a nigga a gun when they was in the basketball.
Starting point is 01:13:11 That's him? That's the same nigga. Yeah. Oh, wait. What the fuck? That nigga take it. I was trying to... Yo, don't you see?
Starting point is 01:13:20 I was trying to be objective. Yeah, oh, that's the dumbass nigga. That nigga dumb. But what I'll say is this. But what I'll say is this. I was trying to be objective. Oh, that's the dumbass nigga. That nigga dumb. But what I'll say is this. But what I'll say is this. He must be good because they like, fuck the gun shit and everything else, man.
Starting point is 01:13:34 We're going to take him number two. A lot of times that'll make your stock go down with that whole gun situation. So he got to be good. But he was in Alabama. He had the complexion for the protection. I feel you. But at the end of the day Alabama. He had the complexion for the protection. I feel you. But at the end of the day, it's a lot of players in the NBA. For him to go number two, that means if Homeboy wasn't in, he could have won number one. That don't mean he ain't crazy as batshit.
Starting point is 01:13:57 And that don't mean that they ain't going to come back and get that money in the civil suit. In the civil suit. Yeah. See? He thought it was over. True. Okay. Well, he did not have the answer we were expecting, but congrats to the 2023 draft class.
Starting point is 01:14:13 It's just the beginning. Shout out to my nigga Scoot, too, man. Yeah. Much love, boy. Yeah, see? Big congrats. Okay. Thanks for tuning into this episode.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Stay tuned for the next. As always, it is what it is. What you want, nigga? Everything nigga supersize. Two big necks. Like when they doing them two for five. And then drive through in a black Porsche.

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