IT IS WHAT IT IS - GAMBLING IS MESSING UP THE SPORTS WORLD & OHTANI'S HANDLER GETS FIRED | S3 EP57

Episode Date: March 22, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They also match your first deposit up to $100, and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treasure Wilson, a.k.a. Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Mace and Anne.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Mace, what's up, man? How you doing? Hello, what's good? Everything good. I can't complain, man. Yeah. What's going on? The lady's waving at you. What's new? It's been going on for decades.
Starting point is 00:01:08 She's been waving at me, he's been waving at me man you know it's hard being out there you know you don't know how many ladies I turn away a week weekly man
Starting point is 00:01:18 shit as well as you know and I'm not and listen man I'm not here to be you know be braggadocious like I was the other day. Sometimes I just have to do that. But I think, I think older men are in style, man.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I'll be telling bitches in their 20s, I'll be like, yo, I'll fuck your life up, shorty. This is not what you want. I will really fuck your life up because, you know, some girls aren't ready to be fucked and not thought about again i'm just saying that may hurt not thought about again yeah you make you know if you i tell them look are you ready to be fucked and not thought about again? Think about that. So I'm not saying that goes for every female. You know, I got to like you.
Starting point is 00:02:10 But sometimes, you know, some females ain't like that for that as well. You know. Didn't mean to get on and start the show. I just said it. It is what it is. Okay. Today we are joined with our analyst, Maurice Claret. Mo, what's up, man?
Starting point is 00:02:28 What's good? Hey, I'm representing for Bruce Fleeroy. Oh, the glow. The glow, yeah. Yeah. You see the glow. You see the glow. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:40 The glow. The glow, yeah. Yeah, my man. That's my man. He see the glow. Bruce Fleeroy. Mo, you man. That's my man. He seen the glow. Bruce Flipp. Mo, you back. Mo, you back.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Bruce Flipp. I'm back. Yo, let me tell you something too, Mo. Listen, and pause this or whatever you want to say, but listen, man. When you was in the studio the other day, man, you keep yourself in shape. It isn't like you're in your 20s.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I'm not going to say your age if you don't, but you're very much, you know, we're the poster child for what niggas supposed to be looking like. Because a lot of these young niggas is on dope. These niggas is on pills. They drinking lean. Them niggas look bad, yo. Niggas looking bad, man. Yo, because you know sometimes, you know what the new shit is the new shit is when he's like these old ass niggas
Starting point is 00:03:33 Terrible you can't hurt my feelings with that nigga if we just did this right here maybe 31 that's a fact man hey i'm 40 i stay in shape i'm good well i will tell i will say this so i watched the comments and niggas be trying to climb my dark spots right up here right okay and just for all you niggas in the comments all season, this ain't from a football helmet. This ain't from a do-rag or a hat. This comes from a mace from the police for all the people who want to know. But I've always been scared
Starting point is 00:04:15 to go to the dermatologist because I didn't know if I was going to get it fixed right. But I got to find a good dermatologist somewhere so they don't fuck my face up and have me look bad. Elaborate on that a little more when you say it comes from the police.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Yeah, so back when I got arrested and eventually went to prison, I was running from the police, right? And so you know when you run, they're going to fuck you up, you know, once they catch you. So I was in a high-speed chase, and so I ran or I pulled over. They busted the tires, and then when they was getting me out of the car, they sprayed the mace. And so when they sprayed me, I got arrested like at three in the morning so you know when you go to three in the morning ain't no nurses staff ain't no support staff to help you wash the mace off your face so I went to court the next morning and then all the mace had basically burnt it to my skin and so from there I go to prison it ain't like you can go from the county jail to the
Starting point is 00:05:03 dermatologist to prison so I end up going to. It was on my face for like until I got out of jail and then when I got out of jail, you know, I was always scared to go to a dermatologist to get my face fixed. So it just kind of stayed like that. But since he was, you know, speaking about the positive affirmations about us brothers looking young and taking care of ourselves, I had to let that be known too. And once I get this skin together, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to be alright. That's what's up, man. Yeah. That's what's up.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Yeah. And you still look young. So bump what they're talking about. I don't know. That's all. Yeah, man. Fuck them niggas. I'm always going to have something to say.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah. Literally always something to say. So you good. Okay. Real quick before we start the show, I spoke to Gilbert Arenas. Gilbert said, now,
Starting point is 00:05:44 Gilbert said that, that we, he didn't say this exactly, but basically we fell for the clickbait. He was online live. Yeah. People was pausing him on his live show. He said that we all family,
Starting point is 00:05:58 we all underdog. He said, you don't take none. We say personally, but they took that clip and then put a, you know, for the thumbnail at the bottom clap back at cam or is what it is or whatever but he said that we family he would never do that and that that was for people who was coming to him on his live show who kept saying
Starting point is 00:06:17 pause of course because of his situation but he just wanted us all to know that it wasn't coming at us. That's really good. Because I didn't mean what I said. I told you. Listen, what happens is sometimes we got to defend ourselves. Yeah, I didn't mean to go cause and so say, you know, I'm really a nice guy. You got to get to know me. Yeah, but he was like, he doesn't take nothing personal. Even we said as a as a collective he said he wouldn't take nothing personal that we all family
Starting point is 00:06:50 but he just wanted us to know that that's what was going on in his life he said because they tried to cancel him a couple weeks ago so uh whatever moral stories i spoke to him and he said it wasn't about us so just want to play play that out. It's a no. Shout out no chill Gil. Shout out no chill Gil. Yeah. Okay. So let's get into the first topic. Cavs coach JB Bickerstaff believes gambling has gone too far. He said the amount of times I'm standing up there and we may have a 10 point lead and the spread is 11.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And people are yelling at me to leave the guys in so we can cover the spread. It's ridiculous. But again, I understand the business side of it, the nature of the business of it, but it is something that I believe has gone too far. What do you guys think about his view? Maurice, we'll let you go first. It ain't going too far. I think they just getting started. You know what I mean? Once theler to expand all 50 states and you have Uninformed intoxicated gamblers. That's what they gonna do Right and I like I laugh for two reasons the first reason was I said man when when when black people were niggas are roles of authority like
Starting point is 00:08:00 People don't be respecting their authority, you know says so for them to say crazy stuff to them and just violate them that way, that was one thing, right? And then the second part of this whole thing was this is about people who gamble. And I was saying to myself, I got two homeboys, right? They love to gamble. They watch the show. They do all that. But some of the reasons that these niggas be gambling, they be like,
Starting point is 00:08:21 last time the nigga had the red shoes on, they won by seven. You know what I'm saying? So they'll go ahead and play time the nigga had the red shoes on, they won by seven. You know what I'm saying? So they'll go ahead and play off like some of the dumbest shit. I just encourage dudes. You know what I'm talking about? So I just say, look, if you go gamble, I know we come on this show, we joke and we give takes, but take the humor, set it aside. But if you're going to gamble at least educate yourself
Starting point is 00:08:45 it's so much information have some sort of strategy and you have to take the good with the bad but i just thought to myself like this stuff ain't gonna stop no time soon gambling is a lot easier uh but my advice to the guys who are you know talking crazy you know take the good with the bad sometimes you you win, sometimes you lose. Look, they made it. JB Bickerstaff, you're bickering at the end of the day. Bickerstaff. Yo, my nigga, you getting mad at the fit?
Starting point is 00:09:24 See, this is the shit I don't like about this shit. It's that it's like this like I'm trying to think of it from a street perspective like yo you want to lock the users up but not the dealers yeah
Starting point is 00:09:36 you know what I'm saying like yo I'm pretty sure them fans that's yelling and screaming at him are not even pretty sure they didn't invent the rules of the gambling in They didn't invent the rules of
Starting point is 00:09:45 the gambling in that state. So if the rules of the gambling are in place for that state or that city or whatever the case may be, you can't be mad at a fan for having an opinion now. It's a distance you need to keep. It's your personal space. But if somebody yells that
Starting point is 00:10:02 out, these fans didn't make the rules. You know how many times we've been to crib my crib duke the god going crazy duke the god will go in his room for a day and a half pout and everything because he didn't hit a parlay you know parlay is a hard to hit and so i say duke how much you put up? Nigga said, $5, man. I said, yo, my nigga. Yo, like, right up front. How much was he going to win? $150.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Yeah. Stayed in the room for $150. For a day and a half. But he said, damn, you're not looking to just flip. It's a fact. You know what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, with all these new gambling rules and everything else, people like Duke thinking like,
Starting point is 00:10:56 damn, if I put a five, that's a phone bill for somebody. That's a light bill. That's something that they looking at that they saying I can get over with. So I don't think JB, i feel what he's saying but you can't get mad at the people gambling it's the rules and the laws that they put in place for that particular state so i get it but at the same time it's just getting started like like mace just said or moja said i'm not sure which one of y'all
Starting point is 00:11:23 said it but it's just getting started. I was talking to my man Larry, who's here right now. We got to think about this. I was like, BT. Sports Center, pardon me, not even Sports Center, ESPN has gambling on it now. Yeah. You go to- That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah, you go to First Takers gambling, you go to different shows gambling. It's on ESPN. And what I was about to say is, you go to First Takers Gambling, you go to different shows gambling. It's on ESPN. And what I was about to say is, you know, talking to my man Larry, who's a professional gambler at a high level, you know, not this $5 parlay shit, you know, tens of hundreds of thousands of bets.
Starting point is 00:11:55 They're actually coming out with technology now to gamble from your television. So you can actually be on your remote in the near future and push a button from your television to place a bet. JB, get used to it, nigga. This is what's going on right now, nigga, so you mad now, tomorrow you going to be pissed. And then he's asking for security
Starting point is 00:12:20 from the people that's at the game because they're making it extremely difficult especially if they're right behind the bench they paid a lot of money and they're like yo we need you to put such and such back in the game and then they're yelling at them you know it could be really a distraction but i would think it's the same way for the referees they're like come on my nigga players players, if you're playing away, same thing. Yeah, so it's definitely added pressure.
Starting point is 00:12:50 But, you know, everything is changing around here. Like the kids say, it's 2024. You gotta get used to it. And then now for another interesting topic. Long Beach State Athletic Director said he fired their men's basketball head coach to inspire them. He said, my belief and hope is that by doing what I did and the timing of
Starting point is 00:13:10 it, they would play inspired and that's what they did. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but it worked. So thoughts on his logic and taking credit for it. Maurice first. it. Maurice first. I don't know if he was the one who inspired him to win. But I definitely thought to myself, I said, man, he did this to a white guy. And I was like, because I just don't see like this going over. Well, you'd be able to fire a dude. But then the dude has to coach you know, you know, the coach is still actually actively coaching. And they went out there and won. And I was like, man, just some shit. I just don't think you can get off with niggas.
Starting point is 00:13:48 You know what I'm saying? This was one of them. But it was crazy to hear that, you know, you fired a dude at the end of the season, and then the team ended up being able to advance to the tournament. And it was a scenario I'd never heard of before. And so, I don't know. It was pretty crazy when I seen it.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah, so did they beat Arizona? Is that what you're saying? They beat whoever they played last they beat. So they was getting ready to go. Him and the head coach just sat down. They talked and said, hey, man, basically we got to get a change of leadership. But he kept him in place. And so I had never heard of somebody firing somebody, but then actively letting them finish
Starting point is 00:14:28 out the season. If it's happened before, I probably just never paid attention to it. And so whoever that they play, they beat. And then, you know, the coach was like a good spirit about it. And I just thought to myself, I was like, man, you know, he has a great attitude to be let go and, you know, being able to transition out of it. So I don't know, it just sounded crazy to me when I seen it i had never heard of it before yeah i was thinking about that because i just i just heard that they lost by 20 to arizona so that made no sense thanks nick for that as well yeah thanks nick yeah why would you why would you fire the man and then tell him to go work it's like you i don't know anybody going to go out and do a good job if they tell you you're fired.
Starting point is 00:15:09 But go out there and run the window for Wendy's. No, you're not going to be a good servant. You're going to be throwing people's burgers, all of this. It's like, what was he thinking? Did he think this was going to actually work? They should fire him for firing him. That's what I think. That's the dumbest thing I heard for AD to do,
Starting point is 00:15:32 especially while they're going into the tournament. You need morale, not to break the morale. I don't know this for a fact, but if I had to put money on it, the best niggas on the team went to the AD and said, this nigga wildin'. I don't fuck with him and i can't play with the nigga you know that's just my opinion this was not the athletic director's decision this is the top niggas on the on long beach state saying we can't produce with this nigga we i'm not fucking with the schemes i don't like the way he's going to play i actually don't like the way he's trying to play. I actually don't like the way he's talking to me.
Starting point is 00:16:07 So if you want me to stay here, I think we may need to make an adjustment in leadership because I can't really see myself playing for this nigga. Because a lot of times the AD, not saying that they don't understand the sport, but they're covering, an athletic director of a university covers every sport
Starting point is 00:16:26 in the school. It's not a lot of us just tend to think of baseball, football, basketball, but you got to think of lacrosse. You got to think of swimming. You got to think of all the sports that goes on into a university. I think this was
Starting point is 00:16:42 the players that went behind the nigga back and was like yo your man is riling man i mean we can't we can this is obviously why we can't win and the reason that he kept him on to me and this is all speculation is that the athletic director went to the coach and was like i can't fire you fire you right this second but niggas ain't happy so you know you my man i'll fuck with you right this second, but niggas ain't happy. So, you know, you my man. I'll fuck with you. But let's just tell niggas you fired
Starting point is 00:17:10 and you finish it out and see how it go. That's what I take from hearing this story. That's what I get from that. I mean, to Cam's point, if they went and told the AD this, then they shouldn't lose by 20 because they know they're getting their request from the AD. So let me hear from you, Killer.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Why do they go out and lose by 20? No, the thing about it is they lost in the tournament. They wasn't even going to get in the tournament. The thing with this end is they fired them, and now when they fired them, they made it to the tournament. So they was basically saying that, we ain't going to get in the tournament like this. Then when they make it to the tournament, niggas like, I'm trying to tell you, nigga, we made it to the tournament.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Then they get to the tournament and get spanked. But that was their fight to say, well, if you're the players and you're going to make the AD, we're building though. Next year is going to be different. More people coming through the portal. Everybody's in agreement to get rid of him. More players going to want to play him. Yeah, so that's what I take from that. That was my take.
Starting point is 00:18:22 So the argument that a lot of people are making, and I want to get you guys' thoughts on this, they were saying that they fired the head coach with no time left on his contract so he doesn't he might not be getting health benefits although he's been there for 17 years you guys feel like they could have at least handled the situation better how do you think that they could have went about it instead his health benefits how old is he's health benefits. How old is he? How old is he? How old is he, Mo? 62.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah. Yeah, he need his medical. He definitely need his medical. If he been there 17 years, he's been there since what, 43? Mo, that's like you going there and coaching right now, 17 years. And the young niggas say, you know what? We got to get Mo out of it.
Starting point is 00:19:07 That's crazy. We got to get Mo out of it. Hey, but once your employment up, it's over. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're right. You're right. Well, yeah, once the employment up, it's over, baby. You know, you've made enough money from us where you can go get a health plan.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah, you're right. You know, you're a senior citizen. Mo, y'all niggas are heartless, Mo. You don't even want to have medical, Mo. He should have took care of that with his money. Yeah, he can take care of that with his money. And three more. Actually, he's 62, So he can apply for Medicare.
Starting point is 00:19:45 If he, you know, if he unemployed, you know what I mean? Yeah. I'm not even going to ask killer. I know what he thinks. Obamacare.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Nigga. I'm looking now at this. You're right. I'm looking now. This salary right I'm looking now at his salary he's making over $300,000 a year that's a lot of money in some people's realm you know so yeah you should have been taking
Starting point is 00:20:15 care of that join SAG nigga get down with SAG I'm down with SAG my insurance is good become an actor nigga get your insurance paid forever I'm SAG after is good. Become an actor, nigga. Get your insurance paid forever. That's how it go. I'm SAG-AFTRA. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I'm looking at his salary. He made $283,000 with a $16,000 signing bonus. So every year you made $300,000. At 62 years old, if you got yourself situated, you may not be spending that much money a year. And to be honest, he may not get another college job.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Being at Long Beach State hasn't been that good. But maybe he'll get another job within basketball, making some... Look, if you have some basketball at this level on your resume, you can get a high school job
Starting point is 00:21:01 or something like that. I'm wishing him the best. I'm not sitting here saying he don't need his benefits, but you get what you negotiate. Yeah. Mo, it sound like if his hip is hurt, you don't want him to have a scooter or nothing? Yeah, he can have it. I just don't want to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Oh, gosh. Let me ask you a question, man. Yeah. Yeah. Pay for it. Oh, gosh. Let me ask you a question, Mace. Yeah. I know Cam don't want him to have a scooter. I don't want nobody to be out here like that. You got an artist, figuratively. He leave the label.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Yeah. I need you to pay my rent. Yo, come on I've been with you five years man you ain't you can't pay my rent the next 10-15 years
Starting point is 00:21:52 what you gonna do oh that was a good one that was a good one, man. That was really good. That's what Mo said. That's what Mo said. Like, yo, when the show's over, the show's over. I can't take care of you after the show's over. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:22:19 We might shoot you a severance package just to, you know, bridge you until you get to the next thing. Yeah, a little care package on to bridge you until you get to the next thing, but Yeah, you know what? You ain't no care package on the way out. Three months three months at a school until you find his own. I get what you're saying. You never answered the question.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Why you can't let bygone husband be bygone? Now you're quoting your own lyrics I ain't say no more about you okay that is the answer in itself got it
Starting point is 00:22:55 I hope I didn't pause transition yeah I don't believe that I do not believe that yeah I hope it's transition I don't believe that I don not believe that. I do not believe that. Yeah, I'll have to transition.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I don't believe that. I don't believe it. I really don't. I can see murder to about... See, y'all don't really... Don't get me wrong, y'all get a truthful murder up there, but y'all don't really get the defyin' on it.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Hell, man. I don't... Fuck is wrong with me. They don't know what the fuck is wrong with me. That nigga want me. No, I just be trying to figure out because nigga asked me. I ain't talking about his kids and all that. They in private school. Nobody told you to put them in there. Who told you
Starting point is 00:23:47 to put your kids in private school? I'm just saying, maybe you changed. I don't know. Okay. So, last question
Starting point is 00:23:58 before we go to break. The Dodgers fired Shohei Ohtani's interpreter for allegations of massive theft. It's reported at least $4.5 million in wire transfers were sent from Ohtani's bank account to a bookmaking operations office series of events. What do you guys think of this scandal?
Starting point is 00:24:17 Maurice first. Yeah, it was when I heard about it, it was making me think of two things. Yeah, it was, um, when I heard about it, it was making me think of the two things. I know I've seen him in the past and he's always had that interpreter, Wooding, and he struggled with the English language. Right. So anytime you struggle with language, you're going to be, you know, beholding to whoever is taking care of you or giving you the information at least. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:40 That was one thing. And then the second one, I was like, man, this, this like scream something bigger than the gambling problem that the interpreter had it screams about athletes and handlers and I say it all the time I say it on here is probably one of the most serious things I say anytime someone wants you to stop thinking and they want to do everything for you you putting yourself in a position to be taken advantage of and when they followed up what to do he like randomly found out like I guess he's been learning English and he randomly found out when I was
Starting point is 00:25:09 having a casual conversation that the dude had basically, uh, use his money to pay off his debt. And I just thought to myself, like, man, you know, niggas are bust ass on the court, on the football field, they'll practice everything and they'll do everything physically. But when it comes to mentally just understanding what's going on around me, the business around me, the people around me looking at your bank accounts and like, I don't know how the fuck you get 4.5 million missing, uh, that's just you not being a good steward of what you have. Uh, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Those are two of my takes, like in two different directions, but to larger issues, but I don't know, I don't know what y'all thoughts that's really interesting that you say that mo because what i heard from that is that he made all this money but wanted to become lazy as a as a businessman he was he was great as an athlete but lazy as a businessman and a lot And a lot of minorities find themselves victim to that, being great in the arts or great at whatever they do, but you're never really going to meet a lazy billionaire or a lazy person that keeps $100 million. So, yeah, I mean, I always believe you do business just like sex.
Starting point is 00:26:23 You always be protected. And he chose to put his future in another person's hands, and that's just how it goes. What'd you think, Killer? I think he's new to America. Niggas robbed you, murder. Yeah. Niggas get robbed.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Niggas get robbed every day. Niggas robbed you in Cuda, man. Nigga, Erskine was down there with the hammer, nigga. Yeah, Mo, my first check I got, everybody was like, yo, use this guy. He did this. He did that. It's like we put the money we had at the time in his account. And then by the time we got back down to the building,
Starting point is 00:27:07 the building was blank. There was no plaques. There was no furniture. I couldn't believe it. I'm like, yo, Kuda was good. That's why I got Kuda school me to the game. Yeah. Nigga Horace, those stealing niggas, Horace too.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Yeah, it was a few niggas that got us for some bread, you know? Kuda tried to throw me with Horace. You mean Robby, nigga? Scooter? Hold on. All I know is, you know. Beers and Sterns, shit done fucking went bankrupt. The Beers and Sterns stocks, you remember that shit?
Starting point is 00:27:42 Allegedly, yeah. A lot of rappers that was connected with them never had their tax money so then people think you're you're not handling your business when really you left your business up to somebody else and that's probably where my thinking came from these days i don't let people handle my business i gotta handle my business and and i wasn't saying i teased me mace was 20 years old we was brand new to money period so uh to his point and um it's a learning lesson and no tony i'm not saying he's 20 years old but it's fucked up because i don't i don't really know much about the interpreter if he's american or if he came with otani or whatever but that hurts more if you're cool with them when you're cool with them you like nah not cool with them, you're like,
Starting point is 00:28:26 nah, not this nigga. Now, if he was just an interpreter and you just did business with him or whatever, but you have to have some type of trust for him to have access to your account.
Starting point is 00:28:35 So that shit hurts. Nigga like me today, with online banking, I love it because I swear, and I don't want to swear to God, but I check my shit
Starting point is 00:28:47 about six times a day. I go right in my phone, make sure everything is in. About six times a day I check my shit. I ain't doing, I go to my social media while I'm with my,
Starting point is 00:29:00 all right, cool. Then I go through my transactions. I flip out if I see $6.27 missing. Who is on Instacart? Yeah. Yo, oh yeah, okay, cool. I forgot I told you you could do that. But I check my shit on my phone.
Starting point is 00:29:14 This is one of the best inventions that they came up with me personally, that you don't have to go to the bank and sit there and ask what's going on. And you can literally go on your phone and check every 20 minutes if you want. But literally, I would say on an off day, I check three times a day. Because that's just, if something go down like that, I could catch it.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah. And then I got a limit. To me personally, I have a limit on my account to where if you try to get over on me or scare me or rob or whatever, I'm not going to say what the limit is, but you're not going to get more than this. This is most you'll steal and I'll catch it by the time you do it. So you'll get away with X, Y, Z, whatever my limit is, but I'll catch it because I'm going to check tonight. And I'm going to check when I wake up. I'm going to check after I eat lunch. So I think online banking is one of the best inventions ever
Starting point is 00:30:05 because you can just sit there all day and be like, yeah, this is nice. You know what I'm saying? So I feel sorry for Otani. Yeah. And it just really hurts more when it's somebody you're cool with. Yeah. And then just for people wondering as well,
Starting point is 00:30:20 like they actually did have a close relationship. He became his driver, his shopper. When Otani moved to the states he brought him with him so they were like he was helping him do everything because it's like when you don't know english like we're supposed to do home too he's from asia like yo that's whack bro that's so yeah that's so fun this is why you gotta watch the handlers ladies and gentlemen this is why you gotta make sure you don't put your life in other people's hands. And then he was going to say something before we go.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yeah, no, you literally describe everything that I probably do. Checking my bank account, going through transactions, always question everything. And it's the reason why niggas have money. That's the reason that niggas don't. And the information he was given, I understand myself. I know people who are scared to look at their accounts, be if they got a lot of money or a little bit of money because they hate the anxiety and the information he was given I understand myself I know people who are scared to look at their accounts be if they got a lot of money or a little bit of money because they hate the anxiety and the responsibility of that you know saying and that has more to do with life in general but as he was talking I'm the same way I got a limit I'm checking I know what's going to I know it's coming
Starting point is 00:31:20 in the account I know what's going out the account and it's just a good way I think for anybody I don't care who from or what you do just to handle your business. But if you don't be a good store with resources that you have, you won't have them very long. Yeah. And everything you guys said is true. When you're thinking about handlers, what I could say is each time somebody's ever got over on me, just like Ken was saying those two times, it was always a person that lead with letting you know that they're better to handle it than you're better to handle it. And that's what makes people turn over the things to those people, only for them to come back and do that to them. So watch out for people that try to get you out of your business so they could do your business good okay we're gonna go to break and when we return we will discuss
Starting point is 00:32:12 Dak Prescott don't go anywhere pink horsepower What's happening, baby? Baby, what's happening? Why you walk in like that? That's how I walk. And then, like, you come on breathing on me like that. I fucking breathe to live. And, like, you used to be dark skin, and now you act like hella light skin. You fucking blind? I'm dark skin. What the fuck? And then, like, look at your beard. The fuck is wrong with my beard?
Starting point is 00:32:42 Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are you talking about? No, I don't even like it. The way you breathe in, all of that. Has this ever happened to you? Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset. She's frustrated. There's only one way to handle that. Pink Horse Power. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately?
Starting point is 00:33:22 It looks so good. No! Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately? It looks so good. No. PHP. It works every time. Wait, where are you going? Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Clippers will play Portland.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Underdog fantasy has Kawhi Leonard at 24 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower? Mace? Higher. Who are they playing? Portland. Portland. Higher.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Okay. Paul George is at three and a half assists. Do you have him higher or lower? Cam? Higher. Higher. Okay. And DeAndre Ayton is at 11 and a half rebounds.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Do you have him higher or lower? Mace? Hmm. Lower. Oh, man. higher or lower, Mace? Lower. I'm an ass nigga. That nigga playing? I thought he couldn't play. I thought that nigga got fucked up. I thought he was snowed in.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I thought Mace said he fell between the air mattresses. Oh, yeah. That's the nigga that fell between the air mattresses. He definitely ain't going to have no 11 rebounds. He ain't having no 11 rebounds, man. He's still hurt. Wow. Download the Underdog Fantasy app
Starting point is 00:34:28 and you can make your picks too. We are joined back with our analyst, Maurice Claret. Yo, let me ask Mason more questions than Larry just brought up. Do you think, because it was a good, we talked about this off. I just want to get their opinion.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I won't really even chime in. Do you think that Otani's handler, Mo and Mace, is the foreguy for Ohtani possibly gambling, but he can't say he's gambling because that would be bigger than anything if you hear that Ohtani got caught gambling. What do you think about that? That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:35:01 That's actually a good point, Mo, because didn't they buy somebody a car or something like that, Moe? Well, Larry, you know, what's happened, Larry? Moe, you know about the story? No, I don't know about the story, but when you think about his ethnicity, and that sounds a little crazy when you just even think about just the control that people have over um a chinese it's an arrangement false yeah i know where you're going hey yeah it's not far-fetched man to to think that you know it's not far-fetched. I'll say that.
Starting point is 00:35:46 What you think? Now that I thought about it that way, I can see that happening, especially because they was already buying somebody a car doing something weird with the money before, right? You got to take two minutes to tell us what you think. Move your mic closer. Pause real quick. They bought one of the Dodger players a gift to bring them to... I can't hear you.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I'm sorry. They brought the Dodgers player a gift. They brought him there, right? So that's one thing. But number two, I'm going to say this, and this might sound a little racist, but Chinese people are notorious big-time gamblers. If you look around, man, go in some of these rooms in these hotels, they're notorious for gambling.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And I'm just saying, I don't believe that that guy was able to take $500,000 each time and pass that on. I think the story is, well, Tiny's gambling. They said the guy didn't gamble on baseball, which I can believe that.
Starting point is 00:36:43 But they don't want another Pete Rose. And you can't have a guy who just signed for damn near a billion dollars get caught up gambling. But didn't he? What was the car he bought? So what happened was one of the players kind of enticed him. And so he kind of helped bring him to the Dodgers. So the wife and them went and picked out like a Tesla for the, a Rolls Royce or something for the-
Starting point is 00:37:06 I do remember that. Yeah, they bought him a car, a nice car. It wasn't no bullshit car. So, I mean- Basically- They know their finances. Basically, what Larry's saying is this. The handler that they're talking about, he was part of the reason Ohtani came to the
Starting point is 00:37:20 Dodgers. So they bought him a car on the strength for just putting that together. Ohtani's wife or somebody bought him a car just for bringing him to the... No, no, I'm sorry. No, no. It was one of the Dodgers players. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Ohtani's family bought the Dodgers family's wife. So somebody else, not on the Dodgers already. And what I'm saying is they bought him, the wife and the husband. I just don't believe that... Oh boy, you got access to, the wife and the husband. I just don't believe that, oh boy, you got access to the accounts
Starting point is 00:37:48 like that. I just don't believe that. I believe, big cover up here, just my opinion. Asian players are notorious high-gall, Baccarat gamblers.
Starting point is 00:38:00 They gamble, gamble. Yeah, and I ain't being racist. Yeah, the money moving funny. The money moving funny. And I'm not a gambler, but when, gamble. Yeah, and I ain't being racist. Yeah, the money moving funny. The money moving funny. And I'm not a gambler, but when I watch Casino, that Asian guy that got on the plane and won that money, they wouldn't let him leave.
Starting point is 00:38:15 He went like 25. Yeah, they brought him back to the hotel. They brought him back to the hotel, man. So I just want to make this clear too, because we did previously talk about this, about the teammate's wife, but she was the one gifted the new car. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:27 So you're saying... Somebody was gifted a car. Yeah. At the end of the day, and all I'm saying is, I just don't believe it. It's too much, $4 million, and he doesn't know $4 million is gone.
Starting point is 00:38:39 I mean, he got paid a lot of money. The biggest story here is, is Otani's the one doing the gambling. I just don't believe it. Allegedly. Allegedly. But listen to this. Most superstars, Michael Jordan, they gamble, man.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Look at these stories. Michael Jordan, when our boy slapped him, he slapped Tyrone Hill. Not Michael Jordan, but Charles Oakley. Why was it over? He owed him money. He slapped Tyrone Hill. Now Michael Jordan with Charles Oakley. Why was it over? He owed him money. He owed him money. Look, to wrap this up real quick, it's a good point. Athletes aren't really supposed to gamble, and it wouldn't make sense. All this is allegedly,
Starting point is 00:39:18 but I kind of get your theory, and I'm not against your theory. Especially with that amount of money. Okay. So now we're going to discuss Dak Prescott. Right now, Dallas is slightly reworking his contract to reduce cap hit. The reworking of the contract
Starting point is 00:39:33 included adding two more avoidable years in 2027 and 2028, which pushed Prescott's salary cap number in 2025 up slightly to 40 million. So my general question is, when do you guys think it would be time for the Cowboys to start looking into another quarterback option?
Starting point is 00:39:50 And do you believe they have too much confidence in Dak Prescott as their quarterback? Maurice first. Oh, once you just told me the terms of what they're doing, they're looking for him right now. I think that they looked at free agency and it was like, you know, there's nobody out here uh i don't know what pick that they have in a draft but they're probably thinking like you know we probably can't get one of these young
Starting point is 00:40:12 guys coming up or you know you don't know if you want them depending on how they'll shake but if you're if you're putting a contract together and you're giving yourself the right to have two voidable years and what you're doing in exchange of it is probably giving him more money for the year that he knows he'll be here, where you're probably putting pressure on him. Pause to say, yo, if you don't get us to the fucking conference championship or take us to the Super Bowl, we're going to go ahead and aggressively pursue somebody else. I think that they're doing it. But, you know, Jerry Jones, jones a businessman you know he there's there's nobody in the market that we can get let's give this dude more money so his agent quits complaining let's let him know he got two more years that you know if you do good we can you know bring you back but if not like we can be done with you and i think that's what i have but they're definitely
Starting point is 00:40:59 looking for a new quarterback you know right now and to answer your question they have the 24th pick in the draft by the way yeah there's no quarterback who's going to fall yeah i think that out of these young guys i don't think they'll fall that far yeah i i agree that they're looking for another quarterback but i think they could do this a much better way i i wouldn't i wouldn't even change his changes um his contract i would i would definitely try to just find somebody that's eager to take him in a trade. Because I believe when the writing is on the wall, to just sabotage more seasons, it's not worth it. When you know they're not going anywhere, it's not like they're going to win if you keep them around. not going anywhere it's not like they're gonna win if you keep them around and i think right now is the best you'll be able to get for a dak prescott if you wait later and then he lose another season it's like i don't know where he could go realistically so even though they're freeing up cap space is the time to make that that that trade is. I don't do homework on the Cowboys,
Starting point is 00:42:06 so could y'all explain this to me a little bit more? Is he getting more money or is he taking less money? He's getting more money. So the Dallas Cowboys are giving Dak Prescott more money? Yeah. How's that freeing up the cap? They're giving him more money. They're giving him more money or offering him more money for the year to agree.
Starting point is 00:42:27 So it's like next year I'm going to give you more bread, right? But I'm going to give you this new contract and I can void two years after that. So they're basically like, we'll commit to you one year, but we have an option to get out this arrangement these next two years. And so he doesn't like it, but that scenario puts the pressure on him to either perform And if you don't perform we out of here and makes it sound like yo You can go ahead and just trading since he has some value Okay, and then like I think I was talking I was like who the fuck do you train to?
Starting point is 00:42:56 But they're they're basically trying not to commit a long-term contract. So they have that money Freed up to basically go get other pieces okay now i totally understand that and the reason why i was saying that because they they did the trade to bring the other young quarterback over there last year so if you get rid of them and get another superstar piece that probably will be better and it save you more money hypothetical question who would you you think Dallas could trade for? Or who do you think Dallas could trade to get for Dak Prescott?
Starting point is 00:43:32 There's a few people that's on the move. We was talking about Odell Beckham yesterday. Don't talk about quarterback. Oh. It's not It's not It's not many But you
Starting point is 00:43:47 You could even You I wouldn't trade for a quarterback Because I would be looking To let the young boy play He just came from Um What was that?
Starting point is 00:43:56 You ain't gotta trade For Odell Beckham No he's a free agent Yeah I'm just I was just mentioning One of the players When I think about
Starting point is 00:44:04 You know The young quarterback That you got there If you're already moving yeah I'm just I was just mentioning one of the players when I think about you know the the young quarterback that you got there if you're already moving in a new direction let's see what he could do it seemed like the young quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:44:13 have been brilliant the last year or two this whole scenario is stupid you know to me personally I feel Jerry Jones though man
Starting point is 00:44:23 Jerry as much as we act like we fed up with the Cowboys, I think he's fed up with the Cowboys. Just as an organization, not as an organization. Year after year after year, he pushes the franchise to be top three franchises, if not number one franchise in America, not just football. I'm talking about baseball, football,
Starting point is 00:44:46 basketball, whatever. The Cowboys. And it's like, yo, bro, I'm doing my job. When is somebody else going to do their job? God damn. Now, you know what? This is what I'm going to do. I'm going to throw this nigga a little extra bread
Starting point is 00:45:01 because I may not even want to fuck with him in another two years. So the nigga can't even say that I ain't look out for you. Better on yourself. I think this is one of them situations where, all right, we're going to throw you some extra bread. But it's a really better on yourself situation because we can get you the fuck out of here. But my personal opinion is I just feel bad for Jerry Jones because, you know, it's years years ago he said, oh, you're always firing your coaches every year. You're firing your coach every year.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Then he sticks with coaches. And that doesn't work out. And then people want to get paid. Oh, you need to pay Ezekiel Elliott. He's running. He's doing his thing. He paid that man. He pays the nigga.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Then he starts stinking it up. Oh, Dak Prescott, he didn't get paid. They need to pay him. He pays him. They have not been to an NFC conference game yet. My bad, Jerry, man. Come on, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Come on. Jerry Jones, you could spit it one time. I know you was in there with them in the pictures in 1960s when they busted school kids to school. You get two. Come on, my niggas. Because them niggas is fucking up the school kids to school you got you get two come on my niggas cause them niggas is fucking up the franchise I feel you I feel you man
Starting point is 00:46:10 yeah I still think Dallas is in a weird situation cause I mean their backup quarterback is Cooper Rush and then the backup backup is Trey Lance who was with the 49ers who did have an injury so I don't think they have too much faith in him as of right now but realistically with Jerry Jones being 81 I don't even think he would be even remotely ready to let go of Dak Prescott
Starting point is 00:46:30 I think that is his little project and as he's getting older he wants to see it through before making any other changes realistically but to be honest with you stat and that's a great no no no disagree that was good that was great but realistically and I don't know if you was too young or but you seem like you've been keeping up. Your father, as a matter of fact, you're not too young. Your father got you in the loops. Yeah. Niggas ain't really want Dak to bust a move to be the star quarterback.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Jerry Jones was so Tony Romo'd out. He was like, yo, he's coming back, showing back. But Dak Prescott was playing so good that they like, you can't bring Tony back. This nigga balling. Like, you never know. But niggas didn't want to have Tony Romo be the backup quarterback because it would have felt disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah. But Dak was always like the backup quarterback. He was playing good when Tony Romo got hurt and they never bought Tony Romo in. Tony Romo was his real project. He loved that Tony Romo nigga, man. He loved that nigga.
Starting point is 00:47:22 That's who he went out with. Yeah. He loved him it was just Dak Prescott was forced on him yeah cause you gotta think about this
Starting point is 00:47:30 and I know some people in Dallas and they always used to say and like I said Dak Prescott got in a good position because
Starting point is 00:47:39 Tony Romo pause was hurt but and so prior to to Dak Prescott, a lot of black people in Dallas, I can't say a lot, the few that I know, let's say that, used to be mad because they say that no matter what,
Starting point is 00:47:57 that city always wants a white superstar. They had Tony Romo, they had Troy Aikman, Dirk Nowitzki, now you got Luka. Dak may be in the way yeah if you think about it Snoop helped them get that money I remember Snoop was campaigning for him
Starting point is 00:48:14 on Instagram and I'm not here to be racist or nothing I'm just saying black people that I talk to in Dallas they you know it could be
Starting point is 00:48:22 conspiracy and just that they super duper black this is funny but they he always got a white superstar why we got a white superstar to in Dallas. They, you know, could be conspiracy and just that they super duper blackish. He always got a white superstar. Why we got a white superstar? And this was during the Tony Romo era and Dirk Nowinski era.
Starting point is 00:48:32 So that was their little conspiracy theory. Yeah. I mean, the interesting thing too, before we move on, kind of like Maurice asked, like what quarterback would be in a good position?
Starting point is 00:48:42 I don't even know because Cowboys fans right now seem to like Dak Prescott, but truthfully, I still kind of feel like the only quarterbacks that they really could have reached for was Justin Fields before he got moved to the Steelers from the Bears, or even Kenny Pickett before he got moved to the Eagles from the Steelers. Besides them, if you want a starting quarterback in that position, there wasn't really many options unlike them having the lower draft pick in the draft. I mean, they're not going to get like a Jaden Daniels definitely not going to get a Caleb Williams JJ McCarthy none of those options so they're kind of have to work with what they got so to answer
Starting point is 00:49:13 your question from earlier so you're still a fan right maybe would you accept would you accept Dak Prescott for Russell Wilson and the other backup? To take? Right now. For us to have Dak Prescott? Yes. And their backup Cooper Rush? Or Trey Lance? No, I'm saying, man, you would trade.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Would you swap, pause, what Dallas have for? I don't want what Dallas got at all. I don't think any Steelers fan wants what Dallas got. I'm going to let them figure that out over there. Because we're trying to figure out what we got going on over here already. So Dak, I don't think it's going to make our situation any better. So I'm cool with Russell Wilson. I'm cool with Justin
Starting point is 00:49:51 Fields. Two projects that I think will be exciting to see when the season comes around. Man, are you excited for Russell Wilson? I am optimistic. He's declining. I am optimistic. Get the tape ready, Nick. Get the tape ready.
Starting point is 00:50:06 I'm very optimistic. We'll see what happens. But yeah, I still said what I said about Russell Wilson, but you got to see, y'all. That's all we can do. Wait and see. Okay, so Kobe Bryant's father, Joe Jellybean Bryant, has put Kobe's 2000 Los Angeles Lakers NBA championship ring up for auction.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Bryant gifted his parents his first ring and the Bryants reportedly considered selling it in 2013 along with other several pieces. Does selling his ring make sense to y'all? Just up front like that. What do you think, Maurice, first? Nah, I think it's crazy and fucked up that he's even in that situation where he has Steven Sildering. And I naturally go to his wife and the fortune that she's inherited, right?
Starting point is 00:50:55 And even though Colby wasn't on the best of terms with his family, I don't think his mother or his father should be in any situation where they're selling anything to put money in their pocket. And, you know, just make you think like, you know, I don't wanna say he's rolling over in his grave because I don't know that to be a fact, but I wouldn't want my mother, my father, whoever was to birth me, brought me in this earth, whether I'm on good terms or not.
Starting point is 00:51:19 You know, there's people I help out now, I got a lot less than with Vanessa Brian Howe, but there's people who I've helped that we haven't seen eye to eye sometimes. But I don't want them people to be fucked up in any regard like that. So I don't know. I think it's kind of crazy, fucked up and unfortunate. But it seems to me like they were right about her. You know what I'm saying? So that's just my personal opinion.
Starting point is 00:51:39 So is it is it verified that there is selling the ring because and I and I want to ask that before I make this statement. Is it verified that Vanessa Bryant and the Kobe estate is not doing anything for the parents? It's not verified. I'm going off of hearsay what I'm going to lose. But my logic was, why would you be in a situation even selling a ring? Right. If you don't need something, you know, like people who sell should be fucked up. You know, I mean, that's just my understanding. If I'm wrong, you know, I'm a man enough to say that I'm wrong if it comes out later on. But this was just my assumption. Yeah. So we're just speaking hypothetically.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yeah. So we're just speaking hypothetically. So when it comes, the reason why I say that, because history has shown a little bit that Kobe and his parents wasn't on their best of terms because of their relationship. That's what it seems like in the public and from from news that I've read in times past. And I think that could play a part into why they're selling the ring. You know, sometime with family, family members be so hurt by other family members that your family could sometime do you the worst. And it could be worse than what you would get in the street. So, and as much as that don't seem true, if you look back at even Kobe's, his funeral, his parents didn't really speak much at the funeral. So all of that plays a role into what we're seeing right now. We will have to definitely find out why weren't they talking much in the funeral? You had everybody else speaking. Why weren't they speaking? So it lets you know that there's some inner work and turmoil in that family.
Starting point is 00:53:29 But like you said, it could be that they feel like she turned them against the family. So this is a real touchy situation. Like Mo said, everybody know Kobe wasn't fucking with his parents. Kobe wasn't fucking with his parents because his parents wasn't fucking with Vanessa. Vanessa at a young age, they told him, you bugging out. You don't need to get with this girl. You're going to meet 100 girls. He went against his parents, ended up meeting Vanessa, ended up being his wife.
Starting point is 00:53:56 We didn't hear too much about her scandals or fucking other niggas or anything else or running the streets or anything. So I get it as a parent and you have a young child in the NBA and you're trying to look out for him but Kobe chose this girl and this girl, as far as I know,
Starting point is 00:54:10 held him down and never got caught cheating. Kobe got caught cheating and she didn't leave and she could have went divorced and tried to get half of it and she stuck with him. He bought her
Starting point is 00:54:20 the $4 million ring when that happened as a gift but she could have got more than a $4 million ring when that happened as a gift, but she could have got more than a $4 million ring. So I think that over all these years, there's still been animosity
Starting point is 00:54:33 towards her for the parents. And look, she may have some animosity towards the parents as well. Like, yeah, you thought I was one of them and I'm not one of them. Like now,
Starting point is 00:54:44 you know, it's a messed up situation because they don't get to see their grandkids. They don't have any communication. If it was a cool situation, then Vanessa could sit there and say, look, I'll buy the ring. Give me the ring. Or I'll send you a little bit of what's coming in my way
Starting point is 00:55:00 because she inherited everything. So I'm not blaming her really because she may feel like y'all thought i was a hoe this whole time and i wasn't and y'all snubbed me not only snubbed me snubbed your son not only snubbed your son don't have a relationship relationship with your grandkids and now now uh you're you're auctioning your son's ring so So two things with that. Yeah. Even like Mo said,
Starting point is 00:55:29 maybe they need the money or maybe they just like, we don't want to even have a reminder. I'm going to go with Mo and say they need the money because me personally, even if you want to sell the ring, it didn't have to be done publicly.
Starting point is 00:55:40 It's so many people that love Kobe Bryant that have money that this could have been under the table that could have got done. This shouldn't have been a public issue, but it turned into a public issue.
Starting point is 00:55:50 And I'll end it with this. Go to what Gilbert Arena said, you know, and not about this situation, about would you ever have 300 million and no championship or 50 million and a championship?
Starting point is 00:56:06 And girl with the ring is like, I was Googling NBA championship rings. I'm just going for $6,200 right now. Yeah. Give me the $300 million and no rings. Yeah. Sorry, I just switched topics. That made me think about it. The fuck is the rings worth?
Starting point is 00:56:22 If Kobe ring is $94,000, a regular nigga that was on the team said it's $2,200. Yeah. You know is the rings work? If Kobe ring is 94,000, a regular nigga that was on the team said it's 2200. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So that's my take on
Starting point is 00:56:31 that. Yeah. The whole thing is crazy and it is weird that it's a public situation. The only way that this would make sense
Starting point is 00:56:37 to me is if it's being placed in some like honorable museum that's going to be kept forever. Like it should, it should just not be in anybody's hands. How I feel about it. So hopefully hopefully why wouldn't why wouldn't vanessa buy it though
Starting point is 00:56:49 i don't know i don't think if it's if it's in the public they don't have a relationship yeah they just don't yeah but y'all see where i'm coming from when i say have y'all ever done anything for somebody who didn't deserve it and I think that's kind of like what I'm saying like getting to a point of your life where you do something for somebody who don't really deserve what you're doing for them but you do it out of like you being a decent human being and not and them not being a piece of shit you know I don't know if I said that right but you get the gist of what I'm saying. No, I get what you said, too. And sometimes it's fuck you forever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:28 That's the truth. This is a real sensitive situation. And I'm not saying that because I don't want people to say that that's what it is. But for me, Kim, it's the only man I'm apologizing to right there my nigga i'm sorry for that everybody else people fuck about y'all niggas family friends whatever it's over it's to the end with me nigga i don't care i'm not apologizing but i dig it my my my bad no that was really good i'm gonna say something that probably really be really controversial but i want you to think about this when you think about the bryants as a family right
Starting point is 00:58:11 as a as a husband and as a father and as a mother and a wife when when they say i don't want this for my daughter i mean i don't want this for my son. Could it be that they saw that this wouldn't end out well? You know what I'm saying? Like sometimes I know as a dad and I don't know how you guys, I would want to hear how you think as a dad, sometime you just know that this is not going to end well. So that's another way to look at it. Like they could have been saying this whole time. Yes, you love her, but this is going to go down a path that's not going to turn out well.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And we're looking at that. What I'm saying is I totally disagree. And not what you're saying is because what I'm saying, I disagree with your point. And I would be protective of my son. We said that about Jalen Green. Like where's his parents at? Yeah. You yeah you know she but the thing about it is she turned out not to be adreah he met at a video shoot so niggas was thinking she's gonna be a video vixen but the
Starting point is 00:59:15 whole time she was with kobe i ain't no scandal about her i mean i'm not gonna be wrong i'm just saying no what you're saying is a hundred percent right i'm i'm saying these two points are able to be right what you're saying is a hundred percent right what mo is saying is a hundred percent right it's like stat when they say the biggest the biggest decision you're gonna make in life other than your faith is the person that you spend your life with. So even though she didn't cheat, let's say she didn't cheat, it's just it went down a path that didn't end well. I mean, regardless of how we look at it, it didn't end well. He's not here. I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:00:01 What I'm trying to say is decision. It doesn't make her a bad person, but if I join, it's just like me, right? If I married a woman in Vegas, my life would be different today. I married somebody in Mississippi. It took me down a whole different road.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Doesn't mean that it's the woman's fault. I'm just saying decisions take you down paths. It's a crazy point, but it really is some truth to it. Because he's not here. Just like me, right? I'm here with you. Me and you don't speak for 20 years. As soon as we get back together, something big happens. That means that my destiny and your
Starting point is 01:00:49 destiny was connected. There's some people that I met one time. Every time I do something with them, it goes wrong. Doesn't make them a bad person. Our destinies are just not together. So there's people that you meet that they could take you off your journey somewhere else and you'll end up with a different outcome. Doesn't make them a bad person. But these two people were not meant for each other, but they still chose to go with each other.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Does that statement make sense? Not that she's not. Do you understand the concept? I get it, but I also feel when you say destiny, he had four children by that woman. Three, I mean, three are still here. God bless the dead. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:37 The other three are still, I mean. I get what you're saying. Those are blessings. Those are blessings. No, I'm not saying they're not blessings. I'm just giving you the idea. I get it. I'm not saying they're not blessings. I'm just, I'm just giving you the idea. I get it. I agree with Tim.
Starting point is 01:01:49 I, you're not understanding what you're saying. I get, I understand what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. What I'm trying to say is your destiny. Like when you're put on the earth,
Starting point is 01:01:59 there's somewhere you supposed to be right. Right. But you could pick any place. That's just like me. Right. I took my life i was doing music right and i said you know what i'm not gonna do music i'm gonna go over here right so if i go over here and all of this bad stuff happened no matter who i met over here i wasn't
Starting point is 01:02:21 supposed to go that direction. All you get to do in life is pick your choice, but the consequence, you don't get to pick. I get it. I understand that part. That's some deep shit. Real deep.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I could go out right now and get a woman pregnant and we have a beautiful child. That still don't mean that that's what I was supposed to do. That's what I did. No, I get that. I get that a lot because, and not to the scenario, right? To make, and this is not as deep as Mase is going, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:07 No matter what, we all in this room right now. Yeah. No matter what you did in your life, no matter what she did in her life, no matter what Nick did in his life. Yes. It all led to us being in this room right now. No matter what. No matter if she's making two dollars i'm making three making four you're making two billion everybody no matter what is here right now and mace got deeper than
Starting point is 01:03:34 that but to put it on a general spectrum this tonight on whatever date this is we're all here at this very moment no matter what path you took to get in this room tonight. Yeah, is this is a such thing as life and then there's destiny. Those are two different things like you. Every person have something they supposed to do, but then they don't have to choose that. And that's what makes it your life. And that's what makes it your life. Like you could be meant to be something great, but you can decide something different as we see people do all the time.
Starting point is 01:04:23 But you always know the right decision because it's the end result that tell you you made the right decision or that wasn't the right decision. But you don't know until the end. You don't know at the end. Did you make the right decision. Because you don't know until the end. You don't know until the end. Did you make the right decision leaving rap? I did. Everything now that we see playing out was all the things I escaped. The car. The shine.
Starting point is 01:04:41 The loom. The puff daddy. Craig Mack. The Craig Mack. Biggie Smalls. Sean, the Loom, the Puff Daddy, Craig Mack, the Biggie Smalls. So even though I made those decisions and it cost me money, that's why I got with Killer and they gave me the money back.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I didn't lose no money. Destiny. That boy good. That boy good. That boy good. Destiny. Destiny. That boy good. That boy good. That boy good. That boy good. That boy good. That boy good.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Nigga, nigga, that's why he makes the big bucks. That's why he makes the big bucks. That was crazy. Yo, I couldn't have played that. See, that's why Destiny, you asked me the right question and we had the right place. This is how it's meant to go, man.
Starting point is 01:05:35 But I do, baby. Thank you, killer. Likewise, man. Thank you, killer. Thank you, man. On national TV. Thank you, killer. Thank you, too, Murda.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I appreciate it bro yeah for real there we go well on that note that is all the time we have for today Maurice thank you for being here yo Mo thank you again man
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