IT IS WHAT IT IS - GIANNIS & TITLE TOWN ARE ON THE MOVE AND IS CAM WARD THE PERFECT QB?!

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, who wins in a fight between 1 Gorilla vs. 100 Men?! Cam blames Jalen Green for not stepping up for the playoffs for the Rockets who now have a 3-1 deficit to the Warriors, Nuggets vs. Clippers head into a crucial game 5 for the series, Dame Lillard gets hurt and his season is done but the bigger question is what happens with Giannis and the Bucks?! Next, Ja Morant we like you (pause) but you're wildin' saying that you had the Thunder figured out before you went down and Cam Ward is considered to be the perfect QB! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and Missouri, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app.

Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus credits with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Treasurer Wilson, AKA STATbaby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam. Killer was good, man. Murder was good. How you today, man? Really good, man. My team good. How you today, man? Really good, man.

My team won yesterday. I'm excited. You know, we back. Up three one. I'm gonna just wear this helmet for the, for the, for the, for the,

I'm just gonna wear the helmet for the show, man. That's next, man. I was just, I might as well just start wearing the fucking helmet for the show, man. That's next, man. I might as well just start wearing the fucking helmet for the show, man. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm with that. Yeah.

Cause what? Yeah, I don't even know who he's talking about today. I have no idea who his team is. Who's your team now, brother? Golden State, we back. Wow, nigga, man. All right. Yeah, I have no words.

Before we get started, I do have a quick question because I like to get you guys' opinion on things that are trending. It sounds silly, but there's a whole debate right now of 100 men versus one gorilla. Who do you guys think would win? I seen that all on my timeline yesterday. It's like a thing. Who Who do you guys think would win? I seen that all on my timeline yesterday. It's like a thing.

Who do y'all think would win? I gotta ask. I'm not part of the team. I'm not. Everybody's gonna wanna know y'all's answers. That's why I gotta ask. Who comes up with this every week, every two weeks? This back to the ice challenge and all that, when niggas started doing all that.

Ask me, Sweet, what he thinks, man. He finished college. Being a gorilla, I would go with the gorilla. I think if one guy get hit the wrong way, Paul's third hit him a running. I don't think everybody's fighting. I agree with that take. That's a good take. One niggas see, dirty niggas, that's a good one.

At least dirty niggas see the wrong thing happen, they taking off. I agree with that. Yeah, at first everybody gonna be like they're ready to go. But as soon as a nigga get punched by that gorilla. Or as soon as a gorilla using you as a shield. Once he grab one nigga arm and sling him across the room, another 40 hits out of there.

Okay. I agree with that. That's a great point. Just had to ask. That was actually really funny. Woo. Okay. So there's been a lot of close games.

We're gonna start with your team. The Warriors versus the Rockets. The Warriors beat the Rockets 109 to 106. So the Warriors lead the series three and one. But of course, it's not over. Mays gonna let you go first. What are your thoughts on the game? And then in the series, who do you feel like has had more to prove?

What do you mean it's not over? It's three-one. It's not over. It's 95%... 99% over, unless... Unless, you know, unless they got LeBron, they can't win this, you know? unless they got LeBron, they can't, they can't win this, you know, they got nobody that you could step over and you can get Draymond thrown out the game. Other than that, they can't come back three one is no way possible.

I think Golden State had, I think both teams had a lot to prove. I think this Houston rocket team, this was the opportunity to prove that they're more than just a team that could play in a regular season, but they're a really serious contender. And I think they failed horribly at doing this. The coaching staff has done a subpar job. People may think it's a good job,

but they did a very subpar job because the greatest thing about coaching is that, like boxing, styles make fights, so it's the coach that can figure out how to put his team in position to win that normally is going to win. And this is Steve Curry just coaching laps around Yudoka right now.

I think this whole Houston team, they had every piece necessary to go out and have a great postseason, but for some reason, Jalen Green, he's not doing what he's supposed to do. So when, when, when, um, what's his name? When Draymond tell him to go paint his nails, it's starting to feel like a real thing. Pause. You need to go paint his nails, it's starting to feel like a real thing. Pause, you need to go paint his nails. Do silver. Do silver. Why silver?

It might shine. Kim? Yeah, you know what, we was actually talking, and, cause we, you said you don't mind if niggas nails is black, but you was cool with the nigga who had blue fingernails for the sixes or. Oh, Jerry McCain.

Yeah, his six wasn't black, they were blue. That's his thing though. But you was, you liked it, you was cool with it. For him. Oh, okay. You said you didn't have a problem with it. Yeah, for him. That's definitely a spin stat.

Yeah, stats turn around. Yeah, cause I thought about it. No, cause that's like his thing. Like he has a Sally Hansen like brand deal. He's very like flamboyant. He can do that. You was cool with it. For him.

I'm just saying, you was trying to get it. I said, there was nothing wrong with it. Now you only like black. That's crazy. But she wild up here, man. Yeah, what's the name of your show? This is a wild show. It's called Funny Bunny. Funny Bunny.

So you'll let a nigga wear Funny Bunny? Not my nigga. But you like that for him. Yeah. Yeah. Precisely. Actually. Precisely.

Can't do this. This shit is, everything, anything that's convenience, I'm gonna stop letting you get in base for switching teams up too. Cause shit, everybody just switch and do what they want to do for him. The blue was cool. I don't see nothing wrong with the blue. And you only like black. Now it's for him. All right, I got it.

Cause we was thinking about it. We was thinking about like, Snap was arguing about the blue fingernail nigga. Anyway, man, I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna stop. and you only like black, now it's for him. All right, I got it, cause we was thinking about it. We was thinking about like,

stat was arguing about the blue fingernail nigga. Anyway, man, this boils down to one nigga, Jalen Green. This is really about you, to be honest with you. You've played less than subpar than three games that y'all lost, and that's the difference. You had eight points last night, seven of a ninth. The other game you lost, I believe you had single digits too. And this is the difference. You have to step up. When you got Dillon Brooks, uh, you know,

he's over 50% for the field, but he's scoring more than you. A-Man Thompson's doing his thing, especially defensively on Steph Marbury. Um, uh, Singoon, Monster Night, Monster Night last night, 31 points, looked really good. It boils down to Jalen Green. And then Golden State did what they did. It was a game of runs.

Golden State came up, I think they was up 11 points, 13 or two, then Houston came back and then it was a slug fest the rest of the way. Draymond Green, Scrappy, and foul trouble, technical fouls, this is a good game, man. It was really, really good. Jimmy Butler, he came through, but this is what I will say also.

Dillon Brooks has a tendency of pissing off all-stars on the other team. We actually see him do this with LeBron, and it was kind of the reason, part of the reason his exit out of Memphis for talk-and-shit LeBron didn't get bumped and they kicked out. Now I know right now Memphis misses Dillon Brooks,

they miss him today. But you know, he was talking about pause, he poking the beer with LeBron, sent him home. This happened again last night. Talk-and-shit to Jimmy Butler in the first half. Jimmy Butler had a very, very slow first half. Finished the game with 27 points. They asked Jimmy Butler, what made him get going

in the second half? He said, somebody said something to me. And it was Dylan Brooks. Did same thing with Steph. He was arguing with Steph last night. Steph did not have the greatest game in the world. He ended up finishing with 17. But you're poking the bear again.

This is what happens. Now you're down three to one. You got a chance to go home and hopefully get a game back, go back to Golden State and then come back. It's a lot of work to win this series. You know, it's not impossible, but you have to win. It's a lot of work to win three games in a row. We'll see what happens.

Don't look good. Yeah, this is the second game that Jalen Green is under 10 points. He should be past 10 points. Even with an off game, you gotta get more than 10 points. You can't be out there getting eight and seven. This is just not good, you know? And like you said with Dillon Brooks,

and if you're gonna be a guy that talk that crazy, you gotta back it up, because everybody that look at you is gonna be like, okay, talking. Everybody get hot that you talk to. So moving forward after y'all lose this series, when you come back next year, don't be talking to niggas, man, for real.

Okay, so to you guys know about Jalen Green, are you guys saying that you feel like he's just not good in the playoffs or we're not ready to say that yet? I think for real he's not showing that he's good in the playoffs. I'm not making this up, the stats are saying this. If you have eight one game, what do you have?

Nine the last game, another game you have like 30, you know, the game that they won, he, he turned up the game that he get, he goes vanish and they lose. So it really boils down to him as he goes, this team goes and you gotta know when you're that type of player, you gotta bring that energy every time. And that's the difference between like young stars and when people become real veterans, you know, they know that I gotta do this every night. It's not just one night.

Yeah, and in the playoffs, that's where the superstars are made. Superstars are made to play. Don't get it fucked up. If you ain't got a good team and you bust an ass all season long, people like, when Kevin Love was on Minnesota, I'll use an example like that.

Killing every year, don't have no hope, et cetera. Superstar, now all star, now superstar. But then when he got to the playoffs, he did what he had to do. I mean, don't get me wrong, of course, you got Kyrie and you got LeBron. But this is where people show up at. And that may not have been the best example to use,

but you have to show up in the playoffs. You gotta have great regular season. You are supposed to be the difference maker when it comes to, like Mase said, Mase just made a great point. On an off night, you should have more than 10 points. On an off night. Yeah, 15.

Yeah, so, and then when you're losing by three, four points, three points last night, and you're saying to yourself, damn, if I, and of course this game flows different ways, we're not just gonna put points on it and say, well, if you had 15, they would have won. You never know that. It depends on how the game is flowing. But at the end of the day, it's still 15 points.

It's still an eight point difference, seven point difference from what you got. And it seems like every point matters in the series right now. Definitely does, but he's the difference. He's really the difference man. And them not winning, I should say. Yeah. So Cam, to your point in the last game. So Jalen Green, the first one, he had seven points, then 38, then nine, then eight. But then when you want to compare somebody like Anthony Edwards, who's had 22, 25, 29, 43 points, nine rebounds, eight rebounds, that type of thing, so in comparison, that proves the point exactly.

He's not Anthony Edwards. Exactly. And the point being is, you know what Stephen A. Smith said? I seen him take a take on Jalen Green. And he said, oh, Jalen Green is raising his stock to get traded and not be a part of Houston. Because when you show you could score 38 and then you go disappearing for two, three games,

that's what the teams can say. Or basically, this is Stephen A's take, this wasn't my take, saying that, you see what he could do, throw us Kevin Durant. Throw us Kevin Durant and so and so, and then y'all can have him, because you got a future superstar. And people like that feel if they had a Kevin Durant

right now with this team, that they could win now. So I don't know if that's a good take or a bad take, but I thought it was interesting that he looked at it from that perspective. That's a great trait, for real, actually. Because if you got a Sagan and you got A-Man with Kevin Durant, that would be dangerous. That would be dangerous.

Okay, so this Nuggets versus Clippers series is tied after the Nuggets beat the Clippers. 101-299, Aaron Gordon showed out with the game-winning dunk. The next game is tonight. Mace, what's your prediction? Who do you think wins this one? And how are you feeling about this series? Say it again, Scott. Yeah, how are you feeling about this series?

And then who do you think wins the game tonight? The Nuggets or the Clippers? I would have to go with the Clippers. I think they're more the team that, and matter of fact, I'm kind of divided on that because I think Denver should win it. But when you got Kawhi, anything can happen. Like if Kawhi chooses to come in there and his warm up pauses going great and you know, he get in a rhythm. It won't matter what Denver does, but if he doesn't, then we're looking at,

we're looking at the Nuggets definitely winning this game. Um, because you know, they got Yoke, they got Joker and when Joker gets going, this is this, that's what got me divided. Cause both of these players could really take over the game. But if I had to go with somebody at this point, I'm going to go with the team This is this, that's what got me divided because both of these players could really take over the game. But if I had to go with somebody at this point, I'm going to go with the team that got the most history in making it happen and that's going to be Denver.

You know, they even got Russell Westbrook, the contribute for this team in the postseason. That's beginning to be a phenomenal thing. But you know, James Harden. So I'll put all of this on James Harden. Depending on which James Harden plays well tonight, that's who's gonna win. Yeah, I kind of agree with that take a little bit because James Harden, I like, I love James Harden

because James Harden says, okay, I could be a point trying to facilitate. Okay, if that's not working, then I'll turn into the scorer that I need to be. And last game, he kind of was doing both. He didn't have a really big scoring game, but he was facilitating. Norman Powell played excellent.

He looked really good in some plus threes to get them back in the game. I can't remember exactly how many points they were down, but it was something like 18 points. And they came back to tie this thing up. It was just a heartbreaker. The joker missed it. And then Aaron Gordon got that terrific,

you know, it wasn't a rebound. He caught the missed shot, an air ball, and dunked it right at the buzzer. I'd never seen anything that close to a buzzer beater since I've been watching the NBA basketball. That was that close. It was a millisecond, but I wouldn't have overturned the Neva.

This is a toss them up series. I have no idea who's going to win tonight, but I do know that this is the best first round series. Look at this nigga. Look. Shhh. He trying to play it off. That boy is sleeping on TV.

My man P, man. He's taking a nap. He said. It's early in the morning, man. But, but yeah, I really, you know, if I got a pick, shit, I'm probably gonna go with Denver because they're at home. But who knows, even this last game, like I said,

Denver gave up a really, really big lead to where the Clippers shouldn't even came back and tied it, but they came back and tied this thing up. And Russell Westbrook didn't play the last game. He didn't even play. I'm gonna go with Denver because I believe they're at home and that's the only reason, but I don't know who's gonna win this series.

Like I said, I really don't wanna see the Joker leave this early because I love seeing the Joker play. But at the same time, I do wanna see Shay Gild, Alexander against Kawhi. But then I don't know if I'm getting 17 point Kawhi or if I'm gonna get 39 point Kawhi. I need to see 30 and over Kawhi for the rest of the playoffs and that's what it's gonna take for the Clippers to win.

Okay, so to that point, a lot of eyes have been on Kawhi and a lot of people have obviously been liking how he's been playing, but in you guys' opinion, from what we've seen on across all the games, do you guys have Kawhi as a top five playoff performer from all the players? Yeah, definitely, definitely. You got Kawhi, you got Joker. Who else? You got Shea. You got Stephen Curry and who is it's somebody else I'm missing,

but those four I definitely have. And I'm gonna even go James Harden. James Harden been balling in the playoffs. I can't see Kawhi not being in the top five, especially when it come to the playoffs. This year, this year alone, he's definitely been balling. Who would you have, Killa? Are we talking about this year or we talking about history? This year. This year alone, he's definitely been balling. Who would you have, Killa? Are we talking about this year or are we talking about history?

This year. This year. Oh, this year. Yes. This year, yeah. You got Tatum, you got definitely Edmund, you got Luca. I mean, it depends on what's your cup of tea. It's a lot of people that's playing good, definitely.

We sitting there and y'all thinking about what Cleveland and Donovan Mitchell and them are doing over there. They swept the niggas by 60, nigga. They street swept niggas. You know what I'm saying? So, I can't give you a top five, but a few accents. Oh yeah, I forgot, Ben Carroll.

Yeah, exactly man, it's a lot of people. So right now I'm not giving nobody top five because let's see what you gotta do to get out the first round. You can sit there and say LeBron could possibly be a top five right now. The shit that he's pulling off, not just scoring defense, facilitating LeBron's

a Swiss Army knife right now to be totally on and switch you for the Lakers. So as far right now, I would like to see Kawaab be a little more consistent. It's a couple times he disappeared in the fourth quarter, but then he buses out with 39, 22, ain't nothing to sneeze at, especially you coming back with all these injuries,

but there's a lot of players that's doing really good, and we can't penalize teams that's busting niggas' ass to the point where, to the point where we're not considering them a top player. We thinking about Shea, even though Shea didn't have a great first round, niggas, they basically sent them niggas home, swept them niggas, same thing with Cleveland.

We're thinking about stars as opposed to team play, but you got to think about when you're the best player on the best team as well. You don't want to discredit these people because they have good teams, so... Okay, so tonight, the Clippers will play the Nuggets. Underdog has Jokic at 12 and a half rebounds. Do you have him high or lower, Mace?

Mmm, high. Y'all niggas, ew, man. That's about exactly how many rebounds he gonna get. I'm gonna go lower because I think he's gonna have 12. Okay, James Harden is at 35 and a half points, rebounds, and assists. Do you have him high or lower, Cam? High.

Yeah, high. Okay, and Qui is at 6 and a half rebounds. Do you have them high or lower, Cam? High. Yeah, high. Okay, and Kwai is at six and a half rebounds. Do you have him high or lower, Mace? Hmm, high. Yeah, about eight. I'm gonna go lower. Okay, make sure you guys download the Underdock app and you can make your picks too.

So, the Pacers won 129 to 103 to gain a three and one lead in the series versus the Bucks, who unfortunately lost Damian Lillard due to an injury. So, the Pacers can't eliminate the Bucks in the first round for a second straight year if they win tonight. Mase, after hearing that, what do you think happens next? And then what do you think is next for Damian Lillard?

Um, they're definitely going home. It's sad to say this for Milwaukee. It's just been a bad week in Milwaukee. I mean, I'm in in Wisconsin. You got the NFL draft and that whole debacle. Now you got this going on with the playoffs. It's just Milwaukee and the whole Wisconsin hasn't been good this week.

This team is definitely in some serious trouble. They're definitely going to have to blow this team up. You can't you can't rebuild from a team that's losing to Indiana. I'm just I'm just going to go out and say that, you know, if this was Boston they was losing to, then you could say, oh, we need to fix this piece or fix that piece. You're getting beat by the team. That's going to get beat by another team. And, and even though you guys see, I can play kind of all right, but then you

miles turnovers went crazy on them. And then you got, you know, I didn't know this guy, but Andrew, he shows up and does this thing and Halliburton does what he always does, 1715. And you know, I hope Damon Lilly get well, but this summer he's out of there. He definitely going to be out of Milwaukee. And it's sad because it seemed like since he got to Milwaukee, everything just went downhill. But you know, it's the off the court stuff. I don't like this for Milwaukee.

They gotta get Doc out of there and Dame. Doc gotta go too. Dame can't just go. Doc gotta go too. I really think that, uh... Look, it just isn't fair, because like you said, it's two years in a row. Last year, the Greek Freak was hurt. This year, Dave's hurt.

And you can see that neither one of them could do it without the other person. They might not have been able to do it with both of them healthy. You know, like Stat said a couple episodes ago, you know, Indiana's not that appetizing to watch, but they're a salad team. They're like,

the best salad. Like you're not necessarily wanna eat a salad. You may want a steak or a cheeseburger, but salad's good for you. You know, them niggas is like the best of salad world, if that's a way to put it. Because what Strat was saying that, you know, we don't give Indiana the credit they supposed to get it,

seems like, but they're always in the playoff push each year for the last couple years, and it seems like Halliburton isn't one of them niggas that could take him to the championship. Well, at least the first couple rounds, he proves he could so far. Numbers are solid, double-double. High assist, number 15 assist, he looked really good.

Greek Freak was the only starter with double digits. We know Dane got hurt with six minutes into the game. But you know, you might as well have kept Chris Middleton if Kyle Kuzma's not gonna do nothing. You know, we got Bobby Porter's coming off the bench. He should be starting because he's doing really good coming off the bench, but at the end of the day, if you're started, you don't got another starter

that can get you double digits. That's a problem. Maybe they'll change that up next game. Maybe Doc can catch on to that and see what the fuck happens. But as far as Dame, I wish him the best of luck, man. What I personally think is, and I don't know this for a fact,

I personally think that Dame's gonna give it another season or two. And if he don't get this for a fact. I personally think that Dame's gonna give it another season or two. And if he don't get back to where he was, he's gonna retire. That's just my personal opinion. Like I said, I have no indication of this. Nobody told me this. Nobody knows. But we gotta think about this.

Dame made a shitload of money. I don't know, close to $600 billion maybe. I mean, pardon me. $600 million. Because the money that they was giving him in Cleveland... I mean, pardon me, $600 million. Because the money that they was giving him in Cleveland, I mean, what the fuck am I talking about today? The money they was giving him in Portland

was out of control. Early, he was getting them $250s, $200s, but niggas wasn't getting them. So he probably got well over half a billion dollars of NBA money. Endorsements always been decent. I think that Dame is gonna give this another year or two. And if it doesn't, if he doesn't pan out to be

what he used to be a close to it, I think he retires. I hope I don't see that, but it's realistic. Yeah, they playing with Dame name right now. Right now, Dame name is not good. And I don't like that. Cause Dame is one of my favorite players. And then do you kind of see him retiring sooner or you think he still got a little bit more left in him? I think he got to get on a different team. I always thought Milwaukee, when he got there, that they could win there. I was really amped, but I always thought he was going to go to Miami.

In Miami, I think he would've lived a little bit better and he would've played a little bit better. He was coming off a divorce. You get divorced, you go to Milwaukee, it's cold. It's, you know, it's not the place you're divorced now. You get divorced, you go to Miami, you might find a new life. You know? And I knew that was gonna play a part,

but, you know, we got to see it in real time. Okay, and then Cam, do you see Dame going to a different team or you think just that he'll, after a year or so he'll be done? I don't know, I don't really know what Milwaukee has in mind. You know, they don't really talk a lot about trades or you don't hear a lot of stuff. That's one thing about Milwaukee.

about trades or you don't hear a lot of stuff. That's one thing about Milwaukee, front office that you don't hear about shit till it happen. You ain't know Doc Rivers was coming in there. Wasn't no speculation leading up to this shit. It wasn't like, yo, I heard Doc is coming. They just bust the moves when it's time to bust the moves. And I have no idea exactly what they're gonna do with Dame. I know what they will try to do is everything in their power to keep Greek Freak.

And if Greek Freak start throwing the tantrum that he wanna leave, I think that they'll try and get everything possible from a team that is willing to listen to them for a trade for Greek Freak. Do they want him to go? No. But if Greek Freak start throwing that tantrum and missing flights like Jimmy Butler

and all that other shit, which I don't think he'll do, I don't think he'll go that route. But you know when a player's not happy, they'll act like he's not happy. Greek Freaks are doing everything in their power to try and get Milwaukee another championship. He's busting ass, the numbers are there, he has no supporting cast whatsoever.

So I have no idea if Dame's gonna stay or leave, but I know that wouldn't be a main priority to Milwaukee Front's office right now, in my opinion. Okay. We're gonna go to break. When we return, we will discuss these street sweeps. Don't go anywhere. -♪ She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like adoption

Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing I don't know My stubborn in me won't fall, oh, oh Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinkin' I wanna be free Welcome back. So the Thunder swept the Grizzlies beating them 117 to 115 in game four. John Morant claims he had OKC figured out and he said, I had them figured out going out game three not being able to play was frustrating because that win right there

could have made this totally different. I feel like we'd be on the way to OKC series tied two to two right now. Mase, thoughts on his claim, you believe it? Nah, nah, nah. I know I'm wearing light blue like the Memphis Grizzlies, but y'all gotta get this together, man. It looked like y'all was desperately missing Dylan Brooks.

And also this team, they got all of the pieces. I just don't know why they're not getting it done. I expect y'all to completely take over the game, but I think we're forgetting that life changes year by year. You know what I'm saying? Like somebody could be one person one year and then the next year is not that way anymore. And then people are thinking that the same thing

is supposed to happen. It's kind of what we're talking about with Damon Lillard. It's the same thing we're talking about with Jah Moran. I know people are gonna say, how can you put those two together? Because as time goes on, like you give people more time, there's new niggas coming in and new niggas is not just laying down pause cause you had a great season two years ago.

It's a, it's a new day. And I think, you know, it's time for people to start acknowledging that last year, we saw a playoffs that had all these new, this new talent going around. And this year we see that same talent here this year. So it wasn't just a one and done. These people are back and they're back with a vengeance. And I think Jai gotta get his head focused or they gotta get Jai out of Memphis.

I think Jai need a new place to be actually because Memphis just doesn't seem to work out for him. You know what this sound like, man, when niggas be in jail? Not that I'm like some big jail nigga, but I got a lot of family that be in jail. Niggas always be like, yo, when they come home and shit, my uncles and shit,

and they be like, I'm gonna do it right this time. This what niggasas tell you, mama. They ready to go back on the same mission. They put them in jail. And niggas like, not none of my Giles uncles, my other uncles on my father's side, but they be like, yo, listen,

if I would have just made a left turn, that's all was, we was good. We was good if I would've made that left turn, man. This nigga tell me go straight police there, caught the 17 years after that. That's what this sounds like, similar. Yo, we had niggas figured out. No, you did. You did we had niggas figured out. No, you did.

You did not have niggas figured out. You did not have niggas figured out. Y'all lost to OKC 11 times in a row by double digits. Every game, not just the playoffs, the last 11 times that y'all have played OKC, y'all have lost by double digits, the Memphis Grizzlies. How did you have this figured out right before this happened? How'd you figure it out?

I'm curious, I'm dead ass, I want you to give a little more detail to how you just figured it out right before you got hurt where y'all was going to turn the series around, not only turn the series around, break the streak of them beating y'all was going, turn the series around, not only turn the series around, break the streak of them beating y'all by double. What was the point? Y'all lost by 50 the first game.

50, that's almost half a hundo. No, no, no, no, you did not almost have it figured out. I like that maybe you feel in that, that you believe it. Sound like you believe it, Murda, if you ask me. You believe it and make it more better for yourself. But we see what's happening. No, I don't think that you had it figured out. As far as Memphis is concerned,

this is what happens when you fire your coach 32 minutes before the playoff start. This is what happens. Now y'all in shambles. Now this nigga Murda talking about get Jai out of Memphis. This is what happens. Now y'all in shambles. Now this nigga made a murder talking about get Jive out of Memphis. This is crazy. This is what happens when y'all niggas fire a coach.

You gonna fire them soon as the series is over. You have no leadership in there, basically going into the playoffs. And this happens in a lot of players too. They'll sit there and be like, I have nothing to do with it. There's no way that the front office or ownership of whoever didn't go to the star player

and say, are you cool with this? And they'll be like, I'm fine with it. I'm cool, cause a star player, if you fuck with the coach, might be like, I understand that the organization wants to go in a different direction. I get that, but I think we should at least keep the coach to the playoffs is over and see what happens from there.

You asked the joker, same shit, what happened to the nigga Mike Malone? The nigga said, they called me, I said, okay. Yeah, all right, big. Did you see, I don't know if anybody peeped and I actually recorded this shit. The other day, Joker was making substitutions from the court.

I don't know if niggas paid attention to that. No, I don't tape, I recorded the shit because I couldn't believe it. It was one play where the end of the third quarter, I believe, was about to happen and Clippers was taking the ball out for Monday's Tabasco. He told the coach, get Jordan in here for the height. Get him in here now and put him under the rim.

Literally, I got this shit on tape. Tells this man to sub this nigga and then he did it enough times, he's making, Jokers coaching the team, I don't know if niggas paying attention to it. He's coaching the team. I record a couple instances where this nigga's making substitutions and everything else.

If it's gonna get you to the next round, cool. Really for Denver, it's a championship situation for them, cause they won a championship a couple years ago. They don't win last year, they lose to Minnesota, but then now you have no coach, you don't have to keep pieces that were part of that championship team. You know, sin always brings us up. We're Bruce Brown down there, he left with a little

funky ass four, extra million dollars, now the nigga on a milk cart and he missing. You know, we don't talk about Caldwell Pope like we used to. We know he's still in the playoffs. He's down there in Orlando playing decently, but he ain't playing the role that he played in Denver. And we gotta think about is that a key factor

into why Denver is not looking as dominant as they were a couple years ago? Yeah, and I think when it comes to Ja, and Ja against OKC, he didn't have him figured out because Shea pretty much dominates him. This is one of those series, or one of those rivalries that he doesn't win. He normally gets crazy with everybody else, but shade shares over him when it

comes to all NBA or, and he's over him when it comes to all NBA first team. He's over him when it comes to leading scorer, he's over him in a lot of different categories, steals. And you could go down the list other than rookie of the year. He, he pretty much checks off all of the boxes against Ja Morant. And he's a taller guard, linky guard that can give Ja trouble. So this is something that Ja got to seriously consider.

In the West, you're going to keep running into Shay, I mean, as GA, so you got gotta have an answer for that. Well, one thing I'll just correct you on Mase, this is not a rivalry. You lose 11 games in a row by double-titches. It's not a rivalry. Yeah, I mean a rivalry in his head, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Somebody got the nigga figured out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, niggas be having rivalries with you. Yeah. Like, bro, we not in no rivalry. Yeah, yeah, that's very true. So to that point with all the games lost and then you basically saying, you know,

SGA's overdrawing all those categories, in the mental state, do you guys think Jaws having a problem coming to terms with that? Yeah, I mean, because he was going for a season, and, you know, we love J.O.W. up here at the show, but sometimes you have it in your mind that you're better than people, and things have changed. That's what I'm trying to say. Like, year to year,

like when they took him out, bring Dane back, right? Year to year, things have changed. The Dane that we was looking for Like life it's like hip-hop or anything else people move on they're looking for this now you may have your Hardcore people that's looking for a game, but for the most part They're not just like if this keeps happening with job where it'll be like Derrick Rose anybody else We used to love people move on to the next superstar. And that's just the sport. That's nothing personal. It's nothing to run up on nobody about.

That's just the sport. Yeah. And let me be honest with you. Of course, we... Well, I'm being honest, because I agree with Mase. The reason I'm just being realistic to give to Ja's benefit. The reason Ja may have felt like that, because when he did get hurt, they was up about 25.

Yeah. 30 points. They actually, even with Ja getting hurt, they shouldn't have lost that game. Because they was up 30 points. But that goes to show how much Ja is the motor to the Memphis Grizzlies. They all are up 30 points when this man gets hurt and still lose?

And let me be clear on that too, because people like, well they didn't lose their last 11 games because they only beat them by two points in that game. Prior to that game I'm talking about, the last 10, 11 games, because OKC did come back and win by two points, but maybe John feel like that murder because in that game three that they did lose,

he was up, they was up 30. Yeah. All this goes into the season he missed. This is part of why you get hurt because you're not ready to play at that level for a long time, which goes into the decision making, which goes into the things that people are telling you

to stop doing, and where to put your focus at. And, you know, sometimes people... Most people learn with their hand on the fire. They don't learn from good wisdom. They learn from things like this. Man, looking back, I could have been better than that. Yeah, you could have. Gotta make the changes, man.

Okay. And then the Cavs sweep the Heat, beating them 138 to 83 in the final game. You never left, Stat. I never left. The Cavs outscored the Heat by 122 points in their four game sweep, the largest margin in NBA history. Mace, what should be the Heat's next...

The laughing. What should be the Heat's next steps, and how did you feel about this whole series? You tell us. You never left. Yeah, I never left, but I didn't say we were doing well. You never left, so you there when it's up and when it's down, huh? That's what being a fan of a team is. You don't leave when they play bad.

I don't think you know what that is. Where's Triple J at? You still in contact? Not playing well. He's not playing well. You know where he's at? Miami. Not playing well. I haven't heard you bring him up all season. I didn't know he was still alive. I don't, you know, put people's flaws on blast, but yeah.

Oh, he got flaws now. He's not playing good. Okay, now let's back to the story. They get sweeped by the Cavs. Fifty-five, let's just say 60. This is totally embarrassing to the great Pat Riley. I almost said the late great. Pat is not dead.

Pat, they're playing with your name, Pat. You gotta get, you gotta do what they used to do down there in Duke. I recognize, Killer Watt, Duke used to win so much. Why is that? They pick the niggas that go with their system. That's what Pat Rowley been trying to tell us the whole time.

I gotta pick players that go with my system and every year they will pick the same kind of players and get the same wins because my system work. I just got to get the right players. So I feel for Pat Riley pause right now. Supposed to, you got to get this together. This is not back in the days. No more money. It's like he's telling Jah, we appreciate what you did

when y'all said not one, not two, not three, not four, not five championships, but come on, my nigga. We understand the whole Latino vibe. We understand, you know, but you gotta get some wins. You got, and y'all gotta turn this around right now. I know they got Tyler Hero at the helm, but I'm, next year gonna tell me Tyler Hero need to stay at the helm.

It's time to really produce, man. And that's what I feel. But I'm excited about Cleveland. If Cleveland wins, you know, continue to win, it will be real interesting to see Cleveland win a championship in the post-LeBron era. That would, I think Dan Gilbert would like nothing better than to win a championship and hold that trophy up

and let y'all know I did it. He can go off in the sunset after Dan Gilbert win the championship. And I think they got a pretty good chance. They got a pretty good chance, especially going up against Boston the way I see Boston playing against Orlando. They don't look as invincible as I thought they were.

Look like Cleveland ain't no fluke. Niggas was talking all that shit. It's the regular season, it's the regular season. They look damn good in the first round. Spank them niggas. Ain't really too much to talk about. We should really ask that what Miami's gonna do in the future to be totally honest with you.

That's what this is more about. Bam sitting there with his face covered up. They saw Pat Riley over there ice grilling. Lonzo morning, Lonzo morning always act like he wanted the Zips, wanted the mafia when he next to Pat Riley and all that shit. Look, they looked upset. You know, what you do with that shit?

Niggas always talk about heat culture, heat culture. See, I smack about 55, y'all down 60. Niggas was down 60. Is this heat culture? I can't wait till Pat Riley exit post-interview. You know, at the end of the year, Pat Riley does his one interview. That's kind of what pissed Jimmy Butler off last year,

saying Jimmy shouldn't be talking, he wasn't playing, and Tyler here. He goes off for a niggas, Pat Riley. I can't wait to see his exit speech at the interviews at the end of the season, man, because 60 points, Dale 60 is a problem. You know, let's think about this, right? The Heat, let me see, they had 83 points.

The bench for Cleveland has 75 points. 76, 75 points. It's the bench. Cleveland's bench scored more than their starters. Cleveland bench had 73 points, I believe, and Cleveland's starters had 65 points. When you got a bench that scored 73 points, the bench? That's a deep team, boys.

If your starters score, and don't get me wrong, of course the starters, they play, because this game was over from the beginning. They was down 40 points in the second quarter. Second quarter, this shit was over from the very jump. So of course, so that ass game started, at the end of the first quarter, them niggas was damn fucking 32 points or something.

I think they had 12 points at the end of the first quarter, matter of fact. Well, they ended up being 17 points. I remember it was 12 points when I was looking. But the end of the day, and like I said, we know that the bench score played more than the starters, but 73 points from your bench, and he had 83 points. Bravo, nigga.

Bravo to the Cleveland bench, man. They looking good, we'll see what happens next round with whoever they play. Yeah. Oh, yeah, stat, I remember 1988, right? This is when the heat first started. They never lost like by 60 back then. Why they losing like this now?

We're just not in a good, clearly we're not in a good place right now. Jimmy Butler wanted out expeditiously. Sucks seeing him play for the Warriors. He's talking about he got his joy back. Tyler Hero scored four points. Like, nobody's performing well. There is no energy. I mean, I know from the jump, we were going against one of the best teams

in the East in general, so at that point, people didn't really have a lot of faith in us either, but then when I seen us get to the players, I was like, okay, we got a little something going on. And then it was just downhill from there. So my joy was snatched too. So at this point, all I can do is wait for next season. And they talk about maybe KD to the E. I'll take that over what we got right now.

Or KD, I don't want to go to the heat no more. No, he should. He should. We need something, because I don't know. Do not bring K... Pat, look at me, Pat. Do not bring KD down to the heat unless you're just going to remodel that whole team. Don't bring KD down there. And let's stop playing games like KD 24.

We got a few years, good years left with KD and I'm not rushing him out. KD may play till he's 60, I don't know. But we know he's 35, 36 years old. Let's not waste KD time and get him with the right team that's going, content. Put him in Houston, I like that. Put him in New York, I like that.

But we ain't got time to be rebuilt. They talking about tours, I ain't mad at them in Dallas, I like that. Put them in New York, I like that. But we ain't got time to be rebuilt. They talking about tours, I ain't mad at them in Dallas, neither. Yeah. Is Stat trying to make three things right at one time? Yes, I give us something. Nah, Stat, three things can't be right. Because this is bad.

This is Miami, this is not he culture. So, we need to figure something out. I think they lost the cultures, that. What is heat culture? I always hear about it. Winning. Let me tell you what's heat, tell me what's heat culture, you tell me.

Heat culture is winning. It's being, I eat, sleep, breathe Miami heat. We are a unit. This is the place to be. This is the city every star wants to play in. That's heat culture. We've lost it, it's gone. Y'all want three chips, y'all ain't like that. It doesn't matter, that's Heat culture. We've lost it, it's gone. Y'all win three chips, y'all ain't like that.

It doesn't matter, it's Miami Heat! Y'all see him, if we go about franchises and all that, you got the fucking Golden State, you got San Antonio, you got the Lakers, you got Boston, you even fucking could go to the Knicks when they was winning. Y'all, don't get me wrong, 389 the Sneeze-Ass a lot of champions franchises who don't have a championship or just got one or two.

But winning, that's why I wanted more context on the Heat culture. Cause that's- It's supposed to be like blue collar, very hard working. There you go. Always working hard. That's what he coaches. I don't know what status talking about.

I'll let you go, then I'll go. Not about to say, cause when they win, it's not just regular people there when they win. Now you drafted Dwayne Wade, give Pat Rowley a lot of credit for that, cause a lot of niggas wanted to win up the Marquette and said, I want Dwayne Wade. When you got LeBron James and you got Carmelo Anthony,

and that draft was pretty loaded, that 2003 draft, if I'm not mistaken, Chris Bosh, whatever the point is. So you drafted him, but then you went with Shaq, and then you went with Chris Bosh, Shaq, and LeBron. You're not doing it with like the average people just to win. So that's why I was trying to win the culture

but I get what Mace is saying. But it's hard to have that, what Mace just said and live in Miami. Blue collar, Miami. That's what I was gonna say. It's a little spice to it. Yeah, like a- I'll add that. Yeah, blue collar's a little spice to it. Yeah, like a- I'll add that.

Your blue collar's Kentucky. Yeah. Yeah, that's why they picked, what's his name? They thought Tyler was gonna do that. And, cause when you think of D Wade, he worked very hard. When you think of Alonzo Mourning, you think of Haslam, you think of all of the players, Tim Hardaway, everybody that's ever

been in that culture definitely gave it their all, even when LeBron got there. So now when you see this team underperforming and they're basically not giving the effort, that's everything that Pat Riley is about, you know? So that's why you gotta get rid of that team. Also Tyler can't do it by himself to that point, too. Because I know you're like, okay, Kentucky values. What is Tyler Herro supposed to do with Kahlel Ware? Yes, he has Bam Haywood Highsmith.

You need more pieces. That's what I'm saying, Katie. And I get it. You don't want to waste his years. I understand what you're saying. It's like, it's a different way. It's the attitude. It's not just trying to do it by yourself, but it's the perception and the way you approach the game. Like there's people that are playing by themselves,

but they give you a whole different flit. Like Yannis, he's playing by himself, but when he's playing, he's playing in a very dominant way. He's not playing like I'm out here by myself. It's a mindset that I'm talking about. But you know, we'll have Titletown Summer School. Feel free to join it, you know? You know?

You know? You know? You know? You know? You know? You know? You know? You know? You know? You know? You know? You know? You know? I can't expect you to know if I ain't teaching to you.

You know? That's a fact though. Not only that, Tyler Harrow is one for ten and one for nine. So that means he shot only one field goal that wasn't a three. What are we doing here? What are we doing? He's one for ten. And he's one for nine.

So that means he shot only one field goal that wasn't a three. What are we doing here? What are we doing? He's one for ten. He's supposed to be that nigga. So, you talking about you can't do it by yourself. It don't look like you can do nothing at all. Nigga, you got four points in the closeout game. But also remember, and I said this earlier, I forgot what we were talking about.

We like Tyler Harrow, but I didn't think you should be leading the team. That's why I was real mad about the original trade to begin with. So at this point, I'm calling it a rebuild because I didn't think that you should be in that position to begin with. But at the end of the day, we ride.

We ride till dawn. When niggas played in the player, he was busting ass, she was like, yo. Yeah, we going in a new direction. Yeah, niggas beat Atlanta and all that, he was looking good. Yeah, the new hotness.

All right, cool, I'm cool with that. Yeah, new hotness. It's the new hotness. Nothing hotter than new hotness. At least I'm honest. I am cool with that. Sometimes it dwindles away. And in this game, it definitely did.

It dwindles away. Yeah. Shit is a cup of coffee. Shit is a, yeah. It knew I was. It dwindled away. Yes, we're not saying that he can't do it by himself. We're saying he need to do it for himself.

For sure. But we're not getting that either. That's what I'm saying. So at this point, I'm saying I want Katie, but it's probably not gonna happen. But if it does happen, y'all heard it here first. That's all I'm gonna say. Katie for Tyler Hero? I... No.

Katie in addition to Tyler Hero. That's why I said, I don't know how they would make that work, but make some work. That would be great. That would be great. That would just be Phoenix and Miami. Debatable, but I see what you're saying. Yeah. Okay.

Yo, why my nigga don't get no run? Where's he at on y'all team? Rosia. Rosia, I think he had an injury at some point and then came back, but yeah, they, as I'm saying, he's not really been utilized. You're like, maybe that's a solution right there. No, I'm not saying it's a solution.

I just thought he was real good at one time. I mean, he was, for sure. Definitely tough. It's just he's had some injuries and stuff throughout the season this year, so it's just been a little bit... That's what I'm saying. Year to year, you can forget about niggas. Like, you could get lost. Right? Just two years ago, that was scary Terry. Yeah. And before we close, gonna end with football real quick.

So, quidits are saying that Cam Ward is the perfect quarterback because he is not a diva and he is not flashy. It says, no flashy jewelry, no flashy suit, no flashy girlfriend hogging the attention, just a regular suit, thin chain, alma mater pants, and his parents by his side. Yeah, he's playing 20 years of pro football. Maze, how do you feel about that verbiage

for the perfect QB? Whoever wrote this is a hater. Yeah. Who wrote this, stat? I don't know. It's a text post, but it went. It says like, a couple minutes ago. It is definitely pointed in the direction of Colorado. Why this nigga's hating on you, Dion, so much, man?

It's too much hate for one man, but I understand, you know. The man got his toes clipped off still still came to work gave inspirational post brought two black kids out of the I mean not even just two but two black kids to an elite status where they could have won the Heisman both of them got both of his sons in the NFL countless number of kids made millionaires. And all you can think about is the chain a nigga went and how flashy is. They even threw a shot at Travis Hunter girlfriend.

Now, it's like they were trying to remove the whole legacy of this Colorado move. But let me tell you something. Whenever you you push a ball down, pause, you the ball is going to bounce back up because there's life in it. You know what I'm saying? You're not going to be able to destroy the Sanders brand just because you're hating.

Y'all got to get over this. Y'all didn't like killer said the other day. You didn't have this, this same energy for Archie and his family. And you're going too far with this. This has gone way too far. It's cyber bullying, and what else they call that when somebody take your name and they use your name behind the scene?

Deformation? Yeah, it's fraud. Fraud is what you're doing, nigga. It's really fraud. When you start using people's names and putting it in places it ain't supposed to be and changing niggas' identities and all that, it's fraud, that's what you're doing.

We might have to look into this because everything, even the kid calling on the phone, that's fraud, that's fraud, it's called impersonating. And when you're impersonating another company, that's fraud. That's fraud. It's called impersonating. And when you're impersonating another company, that's fraud. I ain't trying to get you locked up, but they do it to us as black people all the time. What did you think about that, Killer?

That call was fraud. Yeah. Yeah, listen, I liked your whole take. I don't even have really much to add. That was a really good perspective of exactly how I think that things are going down. What I will say is this, to add on to what Mase said, cause I don't have nothing to say, Mase laid it out quite flat.

What I will say is this, is that from that statement that Stat read, that y'all think y'all got the new house nigga. And I'm telling you now, Ken Ward is not the new house nigga. Y'all had him find out sooner, later than sooner, sooner than later. But if you think you got the new house nigga. You're heading to find out later than sooner, sooner than later.

But if you think you got you a house nigga, you're gonna find out way, way sooner than later. We seen the nigga Wildin on ESPN talking about, yeah nigga we killed him. You see him by his whole offensive lines, tennis shape. Get in, get in there. Is he a football player? Absolutely, is he focused?

Absolutely, 100%. Is he gonna, if he gonna fuck up his back? Not at all, I don't think none of that's gonna happen. But you don't, what you don't got is, is Pee Wee Herman or Mr. Belvedere or none of them niggas if that's what you think you got. If you think- Carlton from Fresh Prince, yeah.

Carlton from Fresh Prince, if that's what you think you got. If you think you got that if you think- Yeah, Carlton from Fresh Prince, yeah. Carlton from Fresh Prince, if that's what you think you got. If you think you got that, you're sadly mistaken. You'll find out sooner than later. Congrats though, Kim, I'm happy for you as well. And shout out to Coach Prom and everybody, not just his sons, but everybody from Colorado who got picked up even in the sixth round.

After the draft was over, they ended up doing deals and getting signed afterwards as well. It seemed like once Shador, once Shador got picked, they all had a call like, so it's cool to get the rest of them niggas? Oh yeah, we made a way long enough. Cause soon as Shador get picked, five, six other niggas from Colorado get signed.

Last but not least, what I'll say is just about that now that we're talking about it. Bouma Isaiasin, former quarterback, now turn analyst. He's been analyzing since probably he stopped playing 20, 30 years ago. He reported that the owners were telling the GMs to take Shadour off the draft board. They don't want him on his draft board.

That's what owners were telling his GMs. And I don't think that Boomer and Sison would just make up no shit like that. I don't like it. That's all I'm gonna say. I don't like it. And I hate that they can't say anything, because if they could, it would be a very camcoded response. Like, I make more money than you. I got better jewelry than you.

I got more girls than you. You wish you looked like me. That whole type of thing, I wish they could say it, and I make more money than you, I got better jewelry than you, I got more girls than you, you wish you looked like me, that whole type of thing I wish they could say and I know they can't. But just perform well on the field, best of luck to all y'all boys that got drafted, because we're all rooting for you for sure. Soon as one of these GMs get fired, they gonna say what really happened.

Soon as one of them get fired, the truth gonna come out. For sure. Yeah, I really hope Shadour's in the weight room, in the film room, and have an amazing year. I mean, do everything in your power because you know what they trying to do. We know what they trying to do, but you gotta overcome it.

You definitely gonna have to overcome it because they even put him in a situation where so many quarterbacks, where he's gonna have to overperform to even look like he did something. Cause you got 20% reps. If it's five of a quarterbacks, you only got that short amount of time

to show what you could do. So he's gonna have to be over prepared. They said he's trying out for third string. Like they said, there's no way he's even gonna start on that team that he's actually trying out for third string. Like they saying there's no way he's even gonna start on that team, that he's actually trying out for third string. But who knows if Deshaun Watson will be healthy. We don't know what's gonna happen with Joe Flacco,

the nigga they just picked. And another thing that they potentially saying is that they're using them for leverage for a team that may need a quarterback closer to time is starting. Saying if somebody's quarterbacks get hurt, saying if somebody's quarterback's get hurt, or if somebody's quarterback's underperforming, then you may think that you need a quarterback. Cleveland also may be using them as leverage

to get more assets, as more assets as they get closer to the season. I think, I truly believe they're setting him up to be great. If he keeps his mind set straight, they're setting you up to be great. If he keeps his mind set straight, they setting you up to be great. Whenever, like I said, whenever people stack something against a person, that's always the person that rides to the occasion. It's never the person that everybody go with.

It's always the person that people be like, I don't like that, nigga. That's the one. Sure. Prime time isn't over. It's just the beginning of a new chapter. But that is all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. Thanks for watching!