IT IS WHAT IT IS - GUESS THE "U" AIN'T BACK, JOSH ALLEN CRYING, CALEB'S MAGIC IS OVER & WHAT HAPPENED TO CJ STROUD?

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

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We'll be back. And y'all, today we got a special guest. Today, we've got Nick joining the show. Yo, Nick, my nigga, yo Nick. You can't even say your name without people saying, yo, yo, yo, Nick. Hey, yo, that's a fact. Yeah, that's going to be pause with me forever now. There you go.

What's happening, man? Good. I'm cooler, man. I'm excited to be on the show finally during football. You had me doing NBA summer lead that one time. But when the Giants blew a 30-point lead, I see how it is. It's cool, man. All right, yeah, man.

It's Diversity Week, man. right after Martin Luther King birthday, we bring you right on, man. It's how we do up here. One day right after Mon Luther King birthday, you on the show, man. Honored. I'm honored. Oh, it goes. Well, I'm glad you're excited because, you know, there's half of a fan base who isn't so excited.

So we're going to start with this college football game. Indiana are your college football playoff champions after beating Miami 27 to 21. Nick, going to let you go first. what was your opinion on the game and then the special ending that we saw. I'll be honest. I feel like I'm going to take a page out of Cam's book and say, you should go first on this one and have you express your feelings. I know you're not happy this morning.

Love that. Okay. So first and foremost, because I've already got the texts, I've already got the DMs. I've already got everything. For those who are wondering, no, I was not at the game. Unfortunately, I got sick. so now I'm sick literally physically and mentally. So before y'all start trying to call me the jinx,

maybe I should have forced through my sickness and be there for a little bit of a good luck charm if that's what we're going to roll with. It's interesting because y'all know my thoughts about Carson Beck and I did give my apology to Carson Beck. And of course, we saw how the game came to a close in the final seconds with an interception, which so many things there. like, okay, Carson Beck, you're seeing the receiver under double coverage. It's like, why are you throwing the ball? But then also a receiver, like, you're supposed to look back.

There's just so many things there. And then there's just a lot of unfortunate plays throughout the game, like even Indiana being able to recover the ball and then make a touchdown in the end zone and then boom, that word for them. And then our kicker, our kicker missing a kick. It was just so many things that were just like slightly falling apart. But overall, like, yes, I'm upset, but I still think it was a good game. I'm happy it didn't end like how one of our Steelers games ended because that was pretty rough. But I think that I do see still a lot of upside on Miami's team and that we do have a lot to look forward to. It was dope seeing it played in Miami again. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to be there, but I'm still going to support the you through and through. And then I want to give a big shout out to

Malachi Tony. He is a beast. I felt like he was literally leaving his all in the field and doing everything that he possibly could. So it was dope to see that. Shout out Malakai Tony. Shout out even just the canes for like getting to where they are. But definitely wish that we could have got it done. But on the flip, I will give Indiana credit. I'm a little nice.

Their QB is tough. I ain't go lie. Their QB is tough. And that's why he was the Heisman. So I get it. I get it. Mike, Mike. Out of y'all, what's you?

Looking on the side of like Craig, looking, say, good. Yeah. What I'm going to say? Bro, I'm not a Miami fan. I feel like you continue about me. I'm with Mike. Through and through.

He's talking about we. It was never, it was never. It was never we. It's we when Mike Irving keep doing this. Okay, my bad. My bad. Yeah, I feel like when you said about, things don't like it.

No, we don't. We don't. Yeah, well. Bro, mad people were hitting me up, and I was like, yo, you're the worst when your team loses, bro, and coming around you, it's the worst, man. You just be antagonizing. Because I'm emotional with my teams. I feel you. I wish I was like that, too.

But with this game, what you said about the kicker, right? Like a 50-yard field goal, I feel like that Jaguar's kicker and the Cowboys kicker, they'd be hitting like 68-yarders, like, esophilist. So everybody think that their kicker could just go out in, like, a 50-yard is a chip shot. It was like fourth and three. I feel like they should have went for that there. And you kind of play conservative and then you get bit in the ass. And, you know, we'll talk about it later with the Bears. It was the same scenario there where I felt like they should have went for it too.

They had the momentum. I feel like you could steal the momentum right before half. Kicking that field goal, that shit was a bomb and it hits the upright. That's the second field goal that do missed these college football playoffs. So I kind of feel like sometimes these coaches, they get a little too conservative. Like they play not to lose instead of trying to win. I agree with that. far, sorry before you can't, Cam, you go to a certain extent because it's like, I totally understand

like you don't want teams to play too conservative because you have it on the line, but I also do feel like sometimes you do have to just trust the coaches because they know their players and they know their team. And it's like in college, it just gets real, real tricky because it's like literally we saw in the game last night, like some silly things did happen. Like even there was a lot of moments where I felt like Carson Beck was and could have ran, you know? So it's like, do we take that and then see what happens on the other end and see if they would have had the ball back in their possession closer? Like it's just too many things where it's like, I think in NFL, with the pros,

with the big dogs, like, okay, yeah, y'all shouldn't play as conservative in a lot of moments. But with college, it's just like, I don't know. Because I'll go back to this, like I said, like, sometimes Carson Black makes some questionable plays, okay? Like, I've kind of said that from the jump. ball. It's like, I don't really know. So I just feel like sometimes you know who you're working with. And I feel like in this situation, you don't always know.

So I still think that that was fair. Damn, you're harsh. He got you all the way to the championship. I am harsh because I still feel the same way. Like, even when the end happened, I was highly upset because it's like we were just there. But then it was like, respectfully, because y'all know I love the Kings down.

I was like, damn, of course it happened this way. Like, I have to be harsh because you've had time. As much as I want this team to win, as much as I want the most for them, and I will continue to support them through and even continue to go to games, you can kind of see where things start to go. Give Indiana's culture, he did a great thing. I don't know if you guys remember, but right before that play, he called time out. So he was, there was something they must have saw, and I feel like they set Carson up a little

bit with that play. And that was his last time out. Yeah. I mean, I felt like, and then. That's a good point. Listen, and then I'll be honest with you, Indiana's got a bunch of old guys on that team. Like, to me, that was kind of disappointing because I feel like they put grown men on the field, to be honest with you. I'm just, I mean, when I think about it, there's no excuse. But when you got players that are 25, 26 years old coming back now, it's all fucked up in college football now.

Yeah. You've got 26-year-old dudes that should be in the NFL. I mean, the quarterback for Indiana should be in the NFL already. I mean, it's kind of, kind of rough now, you know. shout out to Miami. I think Carson Beck did good, though. I'm going to be honest with you. No, I don't think he did bad, but I just think, like, you do see the flaws that a lot of people were questioning kind of even before he decided to come to Miami. So it's kind of like those things are always going to come back unless they get kind of fixed. So, you know, because like, I mean,

Georgia, they've been dealing with Carson Beck and intercept, like, for the longest. Those are the things that pissed them off. So it's unfortunate that it happened on this big of a stage because I know for his stock, if I were him, I'd be a little nervous because to the big lees, it's looking a little different, but I mean, he did do what he could do, but it's still just, you just can't help but think, damn. Wish it went another way. Bruh.

Mike Irman. Beat your ass last night, man. Listen, man, that was a good point, that was a great point, Larry. They definitely used Indiana. I'm talking about their last time out. When Miami was actually pushing the ball up the field. They had momentum.

They got an Indiana territory probably to like the 35-yard line, maybe the 30-yard line, and he called that timeout. I don't know if he's in 30, maybe the 40, I don't remember. But that was a great point because after that time out, that's when the interception came.

I see actually, when you say the stats harsh, that's the Wilson family as a whole. You know, they like you, and then after that, they'll turn their back on you. Two minutes after that they just gave you all this praise. Two minutes later, they'll turn your back on.

She was distant Carson Beck. They were winning. Carson Beck's her friend. Now she's up here picking Carson Beck apart. This is what I expect. This is not her fault. This is the household she grew up in. This is what they do in the household.

They turn their back on you immediately. So don't even feel bad about that. But I do want to give Miami credit. You have to think about what Indiana's done since beating Ohio State. They've beaten niggas ass. You know what I'm saying? Smacking Oregon, smack in Alabama.

This was actually a good game. Came down to the Y. I didn't think it was going to be a good game. I thought it was going to actually be a blowout. So to me, Miami did way better than I thought they would do. So I want to give praise to Miami for making it an interesting game and not just being a blowout. But for Mendoza, you have to give him, you know, his story is incredible.

When you think about his story, you're thinking about, growing up in Miami area, wanting to go to Miami as a walk-on. Miami turned him down as a walk-on. After this, coming back to Miami, after going to California and Indiana, and then playing the championship in Miami against the school that wouldn't even let you come on as a walk-on where all your friends and family around,

also the reigning Heisman Trophy winner, that's catching the vapors, making people feel like shit at the highest level. At the highest level, the University of Miami has to feel like shit the way they treated Mendoza. So I just want to give him a ton of credit because I know me. I know me.

I mean, and of course, you know, I'm not NFL camera ready. You know, he is and he carries itself very professional. Me, I would have been like, felt like shit. Y'all felt like shit. I tried to come here and be a walk on. I didn't even want to, Scott. I want to be a walk on. Y'all curve me.

Now I'm the Housman winner. Now I get to come back home on your home field, winner championship. Not only that, finish the undefeated season, y'all caught the vapors. Y'all got to feel like shit. You got to feel like this. Be honest, University of Miami, I feel like shit.

You got to feel like shit. It's a peccable story. But in all due respect, good game from Miami. But back to what you were saying, Larry, how Miami, Pardon me, Indiana has these grown men. I don't know if y'all see what they're doing in basketball. I'm pretty sure they're already doing it in football.

So where they're letting players from the G-League come back to college because they haven't used their college eligibility. So now you're going to have 24, 25-year-old players playing in college. I also seen they just changed the rule for redshirting from four games. Now if you play nine games, you can still redshirt. Like, yo, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. Then I also seen some high school kids.

It's on the end up with this page. Shout to the mommy above for posting different stuff that's not necessarily on the other sport outlets pages. We try to post things that are different. And I've seen a bunch of high school kids, very good high school kids saying how they don't watch the NFL. They say college is more lit. They rather watch college than the NFL.

And you know why? To me, I can't answer for those kids. because now the money's, you don't have to jump to get the money in the NFL. Now you're in high school talking about, yo, when I get the Syracuse, I'm going to get me. I'm going to get me about $4 million when I get the Syracuse. When I get the USC, man, I'm going to grab me $2 million. Yo, even if you're not a five-star recruit, yo, now they got $250,000 waiting for me at UNC. So now you have younger kids not necessarily paying attention to the NFL because the next step in life is college.

and you can make millions of dollars in college to where now you're not even necessarily paying attention to the NFL. But the coach from Indiana, what I think he's going to be, my personal opinion, unless they fix this loophole, he's going to be kind of the next Nick Sabin. Me and Bub was talking about it because he's going to go get those 23, 24, 25-year-olds. He's not going to go recruit 18-year-olds. He's not going to go recruit 19-year-olds. He's going to go see who's good, who's not going to necessarily go to the NFL and say,

look, man, you still got a chance over here. Yo, you know what? This nigga right here, he looking good who played for, I'm just using random teams for Ole Miss. He plays seven games, some play two more games than Redshirt, you know, a whole other year. The loopholes is crazy. The loopholes is wow. So I think he figured that out, and I think now with the success that he's had, he's going to get more players to do this,

and I don't think he's recruiting anybody that's going to be a teenager. I think he knows how to recruit older players that beat up on young players, and that's not his fault because he knows where the loophole's at. I've seen John Calipari for college basketball mad about it, like throwing a tantrum,

like, yo, I'm still going to go recruit 18, 19-year-olds, but am I going to win? I don't know because they're going to be playing against 24 and 25-year-old players. It's a wild loophole, and you can't get mad at the coaches who take advantage of it. So is college going to start being, like, in baseball, like the minor leagues almost?

Because that's what it kind of feels like a little bit, right? When you say, like, the NFL, you can get paid early. I wouldn't even know if you called the minor leagues because you got people leaving the minor leagues coming to college. If you put it in the NBA form, the minor leagues would be the G League. The G League. You're leaving the G League to come to college.

And now you can make more money in college than you make it in the G-Leat. So you sit there and say, yo, somebody making a good job in the G-League, 50,000 a year, 40,000 a year. Maybe, you know, I've seen a good players making $35,000 a year. This coach could tell you, look,

I got $500,000 for you, nigga. We lit, nigga. Fuck the G-Leet. I'm going back to college and make 10 times as much as I was making in the G-Lean. I don't know how you fixed the loophole, but... And just more power to the coaches that figured it out

and they're succeeding with it. It's not their fault because they're not making the rules. Yeah. And not even just money, you can make more of a name for yourself too in college now because even like Juju Walkins, like y'all would have been like if you really weren't paying attention, you'd be like, oh, she has to have been in the WMV I ran out by now. Like she's literally still playing in college.

Like the name that you could make yourself and the money is insane. But shout out to the people that can do it because if you could do it, you would do it too. So I fully understand where they're coming from. That's totally true, especially. nothing more than women's basketball. I think women's, of course you can still hear about Caitlin Clark and everything else, but it's a lot of famous college women basketball players

that kind of get lost in the system when they get to the WNBA because you're not necessarily paying attention to the WMBA, but you're paying attention to them in college. Like, I'm not sitting there saying you ain't paying attention to Page Becker's in the WNBA, but you're watching her when she at UCon. You're like, yo, Page Becker's, Pace Becker's. She did really good this year, too. But to me, that's a great sport to say,

I don't think it's more athletes to get lost than women basketball players once they leave college to go to the WMB. And I'm not going to be wrong, I don't want you all to get offended. I'm just saying that everybody's not going to be Angel Reese. Everybody's not going to be Caitlin Clark. Clay apartment, Caitlin Clark.

Everybody's not going to be Paige Becker. Some of these girls, you followed them through the WMBA tournament. And you'd be like, oh, she's nice. I hope South Carolina went. Or I hope UConn went or I hope U.S.C. went or whatever. And then you kind of don't hear about them. And then you get hooked on the next person that's in college basketball. Like UConn, Pays Beckers is gone.

But it's a new girl last year who broke all the rookie records for UCon. I'm watching the girl Audi for Iowa. I don't think it's Iowa. Iowa State. Huh? I think it's Iowa State. Yeah. Little Husky joint, averaging 30.

early as something, you know what I'm stopping. Yeah, you see what you've been watching? 40 and 22 every now. You know what I'm saying? Aldi Brooks is something like that if I'm not mistaken. But now that's who I'm watching. You know what I'm saying? Because to me it's more exciting.

Good points. But shout out to Indiana for their first championship in their football history. But it's still over here. So I'm going to support the you, but that was a great game. Okay, I just got to make that clear. Okay, now we've got to move on to football, a lot of crazy. good games this past weekend. So we're going to start with the Broncos versus the bills.

So the Broncos took down Josh Allen and the bills 30-3-2-30 in overtime. Nick, what went wrong for the bills? What were your thoughts overall in the game? My friends and I, we've kind of coined Josh Allen as like, Mr. Almost, because it's just been the same thing with him. Even with McDermott getting fired, too, I feel like they kind of hit the ceiling with this team. It's always an excuse for him.

and I feel like it's safe for me to say it as a white guy, but like Josh Allen, Josh Allen gets a crazy pass where, like, Lamar gets slandered all the time for, like, the same mishaps that he has in the playoffs. Like, Lamar has had three turnover games. It's like, oh, my God, he can't read a defense. He can't do this.

Like, he's not a franchise guy. Josh Allen does it, and it's like, well, he doesn't have a real number one wide receiver. He had three wide receivers that week get put on IR. And it's like, yo, we move the goalposts a lot as like sports media. But the thing that happened in this game is I don't,

I'm not of a believer where I blame one call. My mindset when I played sports was always like, you know, the refs are going to probably do some dumb shit at some point. Let's not let them decide it. Everyone's talking about that play to cooks that got intercepted. Was he down? Was he not?

Look, man, the NFL, it's a subject call, right? What you think is a catch? What Cam thinks is a catch? What Larry thinks is a catch? It's all different. I don't know why it's so difficult. But it kind of, it is what it is when it comes to that rule in particular. Where it went wrong is, I remember Bill Belichick used to always mention last four,

first four, last four minutes of the first half, first four minutes of the second half, and that's where it all went wrong for Buffalo. They give up that touchdown, and then Josh Allen tries to make a stupid play. I don't even know what he was trying to do. Fumbles, they kick a field goal, so now they go up 10. And I know Buffalo came back to take the lead later in that game, but it's just those little mistakes, because what happens if they're not chasing a a 10-point lead, and it's a seven-point lead. It's just the little things that keeps haunting them, and it's just the same old thing, Mr. Almost with Josh Allen.

Mr. Almost. Cam, how you feeling? That's the first time to me with Josh Allen to wear. I be seeing niggas in the common, niggas being my car with Cam, don't get up there and be tap dancing for Josh Allen because people not like Josh Allen. Even though Joe Burroughs is my nigga. I'm a Josh Allen fan.

But this is the first year of my person. opinion where you could kind of put it on Josh Allen. The other years when the rules wasn't the same, you got to realize they changed the rules maybe two years ago to where the other team has a chance to score. So when you lose the Patrick Mahomes, though, those other years, they get the ball first in the overtime or whatever the case may be. Josh Allen wasn't on the field to decide if his team could win or lose. This is the year he was on the field deciding if his team could win or lose.

When we was talking about, we're talking about before the half, right? So they're up seven to three, if I'm not mistaken. And they're right on the verge of making a run after Josh Allen makes an outstanding run. And what's this nigga name? Because it's crooks and it's cook. I want to make sure that I get...

Brandon Cooks. Yeah, but no, but I ain't talking about the deception. I'm talking about... talking about Cook. Cook fumbled the ball, and they could have went 14-3 when he fumbled the ball. And to me, the lack of emotion from everybody outside of Josh Allen and the lineman, of course, wasn't there.

The niggumpled the ball, and they ain't say, damn, man, nothing. They just jogged off casually. Fuck it, I fumbled. That's what's up. Just at there. Even when you talk about the interception at the end, when he throws the ball to crooks,

and then he rolls over and get the interception. You don't fight for the ball crooks? Like, nigger, y'all playoff life is on the line. Nigger just rolled over, let the nigger take it and you just sitting there. Like, bro, I'm not making a shoot for Josh Allen. He's on the field, and it's his fault. You know what I'm saying?

But niggas is not fight. You do a fumble, you're not mad. Get intercepted. You just sitting there. You don't fight for the ball. Nick, if that's me, you're not just rolling over and taking the ball. That's just not going to happen.

Then you put it on Josh Allen as well. to where the fumble you was just talking about before halftime, right? I'm not saying Josh Allen should have fumble because absolutely it's your job to take care of the ball. But don't you think as a coach, you have no timeouts left, you're on your own 20-year-line, what are you going to make happen? Take a knee and go into halftime, and that's the, I'm not saying that's why I got fired,

but that's decisions this coach is supposed to make. You have no, it was about 12, 13 seconds left. You have no timeouts. What are you really thinking about, all going to do. Everybody's dropped back in coverage. You're not going to throw, furthermore,

he's not throwing a fucking 85-yard Hail Mary. Not about that. That play was stupid as well. I'm not making a scogeach for Josh Allen. He didn't play well at all. Receivers that he missed, couple passes that he missed as well. But God damn.

Crooks and Cook. Y'all niggas, man. Y'all niggas, it was too nonchalant for me, my personal opinion. But we'll see what happens. I know a lot of coaches would be really, really happy to go up to Buffalo.

Yeah, what? And coach Josh Allen, I've seen some niggins today saying that the Giants better be careful, hope the ink dried on the paper. I see that too. It's the Harbaugh trying to leave. You're trying to go. Yeah, because John Harbaugh might be like,

hold the fuck up, man. I quit before he start and go right up to Buffalo and be in a good position. New stadium is, listen, man, it's a sexy job, man. You ought to realize it's something. great coaches, pardon me, some great quarterbacks that's available. In the AMC, you got Josh Allen, coachless, and you got Lamar Jackson, coachless right now.

Well, listen, what I like to say is, and I'm going to speak from a betting standpoint, because I bet that game. And I'll be very honest with you, for all the betters out there, when he caught, when there was two things at the end of that game, and I think the NFL, they always say Vegas rigs the game, I will tell you this. That was a catch.

They should have reviewed the play. Everybody in the whole book was crazy because they're like, they're not going to even review to play. Listen, he caught the ball. He's down. He don't have to fight for it, Ken. That was my thing. The other thing was, there was a P.I.

In that game on Denver. And I remember sitting there thinking, they want Knicks to go to this. They want Knicks to go to this player. A young kid, they like the quarterback. I mean, the head coach for Denver. We don't like. I said, they want this.

There was a P.I. That would have put Cleveland. I mean, I put the bills in field range to win the game. And then I'm like, yo, I mean, it just looked like Vegas made the call from a betting standpoint on that piece. But now I feel like when they told me that, oh, boy, broke his foot. And I'm sorry he broke his foot. But now I feel like, well, that's what you get now because now you don't get, now you don't get job challenge. Now you don't get job challenge against the Patriots.

Because you wanted Bo Nixon there. And listen, everybody in that book, even the Denver fans, was going crazy on the non-PI call and that catch. And that would have ended the game right. That's just from a betting standpoint. And there's a lot of betters that watch this show. So I want to make sure the betters know that we was watching that. You know what I'm saying? That's all.

Yeah. So there's a lot of impact here. We've got to talk about Josh Allen's press conference. We've got to talk about Bo Nix. But since Cam brought up the coach, I do want to get to that, Nick. So the bills end up firing their head coach, Sean McDermont, after 9. seasons. Do you think it was time? Oh, I've been talking about it being time for like three years now, because I just think that they hit their ceiling. He's benefited from having Josh Allen bail him out on a lot of

different plays. And then when he doesn't bail him out, this is what happens. Like, you never go into games with the bills and you say, yeah, they got the coaching advantage. You say that about Denver. You say that about New England. You say that about a lot of teams that you still see in the playoffs. And it was long overdue. I feel the same way about your team with the Bengals. I feel like them bringing back Zach Taylor, like that's a nightmare too. I kind of feel like you see what you could do with these teams and then you got to just move on for them. So it's not a surprise to me at all.

It was like they had to win the Super Bowl or else you was going to get canned. Okay. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day when you don't have, you know, that was the big thing going into the playoffs. There's no Lamar Jackson. There's no Joe Burroughs. There's no Patrick Mahomes. What's the excuse going to be?

everybody that the big bad quarterbacks are not in the way. So therefore, agree with Nick. Even if you didn't win the Super Bowl, you had to get there to keep your job. So it might have been time. Valid. Okay. So after the loss, Josh Allen had a pretty emotional press conference where he was actually crying at the stand and he basically said he felt like he let his teammates down.

So we know the coach is fired, but hearing that from Josh Allen himself and then just the emotions and all that. Does that concern you seeing that from a quarterback or do you kind of see that as like a good thing, maybe like a mentality shift? How did you view that from Josh Allen? I just think it's heartbreak after heartbreak from him all the time. And to your point, too, because, you know, I remember always saying how like Josh Allen, you brought it up and I forgot to mention it before, how he's never really cost them games in the playoffs. It's like the first time where you could say like Josh Allen kind of fucked it up for them. But I just look at it as

I'm kind of like you. I'm a little sensitive so like I don't mind the painted fingernails for Caleb Williams if they're winning. Wow. I don't mind the I don't mind Josh Allen showing emotion when it's something like that. Where was you all the other arguments that we did? I'm in the control room. She's not from America.

Born and raised in Queens. Not but like yo. You don't hear this. It's not America. No, but, you know, if it was a regular, if it was week three against the Jets and he's crying, I'd feel a type of way. But it's, it's a playoff game. They lost an overtime again. This is 0 and 6 in overtime in his career.

It's like, all right, he had a moment there. Like, to me, it's fine. Now, if he's doing it week three against the Jets, I'd be like, yeah, we need to have a conversation. It was the same thing I was saying with Caleb Williams when he went and he cried to his mom with the puppy and all that shit. It's like, yo, they just got eliminated from college football playoff contention. He knew that his season was done. He wasn't going to win the Heisman again. it's like, all right, it was a moment there.

If it's happening every week, I'd be like, all right, we need to talk about it. But to me, it was all right. Look, when you win, you can paint your nails. I'm not saying I'm going to do it. But to me, Caleb Williams, the way he played this last seven, eight weeks, I can't really complain about the nails or not.

The only thing I was complaining about his nails is this. The last game, not the last game, last week before that, he had like the 16-year-old high school girl nails where, his nails was not done enough, and it was just like, when girls can't afford to get their nails done every week, and it's just like a little paint in the middle of the nail.

I didn't appreciate that. But he's been winning, and the shit that he did, I'm pretty sure we're going to talk about, so I won't get too much into it. I don't mind, and then, like Nick said, I don't mind Josh Allen crying either, not in that scenario, because this is the year that you might think

that you're going to, going to win. You got to realize I played basketball now in the high level outside of high school. But when we watch sports, Larry played to junior college, too. And Nick, I didn't know you was a kicker, too. I see you post that one day in college. Maybe you should go try out for somebody. I don't know you. Yeah, how much you know. Might be able to at Miami. They he signed a 29-year-olds or not. That's what I'm saying. Nick was a

Division III kicker. I didn't know that. I thought right down your place. You might even talked about it. Anyway, when people don't realize we sit there and watch the games and we say this person's hurt or this person didn't achieve this or this person is great, this person did this. It doesn't start at the game. It starts to practice and all the work you put in and at the preseason and the training camp and so on and so forth. So when you sit there at training camp in August and then you start preseason, then you do a season, then you make it to the playoffs and you say it to yourself, oh, this is a game. is my best opportunity ever. I don't have to face Patrick Mahomes

or Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson. I should get it done. And then you don't get it done. I get it. I'll feel you on the crying tip. So I'm not really mad at that at all. I don't know if that's even the topic. Nick triggered me with it.

I see. That's why I had a comment. I'm like, all this time, I'm like, wow. But you said that don't even count. I cried when I lost two, but I granted you, I was 16 years old. I wasn't 30. You know?

Good point. Checkmate. Okay, real quick. So actually when we did predictions, you and Mike chose the Broncos to win this game. I chose all the right teams. Okay, that part. Just to the audience, but yeah, there you have it.

Everybody, I picked one. Everybody. So when y'all use underdog, y'all know who's picks to listen to. That's all I'm going to say. I picked all the right teams this weekend. But sorry. Yeah, no, you're good.

You got to make that clear for the people. So we saw Broncos won, but Bo NIC suffered a C. season ending broken bone in his ankle during the game. So, Nick, do you think now that we have Jared Stidham at the helm, not we, but the Broncos have Jared Stim at the helm, do you think that they'll be able to advance? And then how did you, what was your reaction after hearing that he actually had an injury during that game? Yeah, I think everybody did the same thing.

I just went to Twitter and I thought people got hacked, bro. It's like when Luca got traded, everyone's like, y'all shams got hacked the same way. I was like, there's no way. Like, I watched that game. He walked off the field. It just sucks. Like, if you a Bronco fan, you had this season. for him to go out like that.

It's just so brutal. I actually think that they're going to go to the Super Bowl. I'm still picking them to win. Everybody's just betting the Patriots, and they think with Stenham being in there, I still think they got the better defense. And, you know, I think they've been frauds all year, but them in Denver is such a hard place to play,

and they'll have enough time. It's not like Nick's got hurt in the middle of the game, and then Stidham came in. It's like, Peyton will draw up some shit for him, and that defensive line. You know, we'll talk about the Houston and Patterson, game in a little bit, but, like, they could definitely rush the passer against New England. So I'm actually picking Denver to win to go on to the Super Bowl and then they'll have two weeks.

But I also think, like, I remember way back in the day, Philip Rivers tore his ACL. He had surgery on Tuesday and then he played in the title game. It's like, yo, bro, we can't shoot you up with, like, some TRT or some crazy, put them on perks and get them out there. Like, what we're doing, bro? It's the Super Bowl now. It's not week 11. Yeah, I would have told niggas, don't even tell niggas, my ankle is broke.

Yeah, keep that hush. That's just, yeah. That's what I would have did. But he's young. Isn't it like NFL protocol, though? They have to announce? Probably so. I mean, yeah, probably so.

At least by a certain time. Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, you know, once it's news. I'm just saying me what I try to do. I don't know the rules and shit. But I know one person who's confident, Sean Payton. And I think this is Sean Payton's opportunity to say, okay, I'm going to show y'all while I'm that nigger. Because right after the game, when he did his press conference,

he was like, yeah, Beau broke his ankle, but I got a number two quarterback that could start for a lot of teams. So y'all think it's overwatch, just wait and see. And that's exactly what Sean Payton said. And I'm like, to me, he wants to show I can win who I picked on my team to win. I said I don't want Russell Wilson. Okay, I work with Bo Nix. Bo Nix is good.

He's all right. But I'm the one who tells Bo Nix what to do. You know, so now I'm a tough statement. He was very, very confident. Sean Payton was very, very confident. I don't want to make my pick just yet. I wait later in a week to tell you who I'm a pick. But I'm still, you know, the way Sean Payton was talking,

it's hard to bet against the confidence that he had, but I'm not making the pictures yet. But we'll see what happens. Good point. Okay. We're going to go to break. When we return, we will discuss the 49ers versus the Seahawks, Texans versus Patriots, and more.

Don't go anywhere. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. So next Sunday, the Patriots will play the Broncos. Underdog has Drake May at 224 and a half passing yards. Do you have them higher or lower? Hi. Okay. Stefan Diggs is at half a rushing and receiving touchdown, higher or lower.

Hi. Okay. And Jared Sidham is at 184 and a half passing yards. That's a tough one, man. See the nigger play all year. I'm going to go higher while you're Peyton Manning. I mean, pardon me, Sean Payton talking. Let's go higher.

Okay. Make sure you all download the Underdog app and you can make your picks too. So we're going to start with 49ers. They had a rough 41 to 6 loss to the Seahawks. Nick, at what point did you realize, okay, the 49ers are going to lose this game? The first play. They housed that kick. And if you heard that Seattle,

crowd like that shit was deadly loud in there um look i think the 49ers like in my opinion kyle shanahan should be coached the year he probably won't win it but like what he did with all the guys that he lost and even coming into this week like they brought back ricky pearsall and people on the internet was like rickie piercell's like bro it ain't jerry rice but that's how depleted they've been at wide receiver i think it just ran its course he saw mcalfrey after like about week 15 he just started to have so much of a workload pause on him that it just like it killed them and he's their whole offense there's a there's a crazy statistic of running backs that pass over 400 touches there's a immediate decline within the next year he had about 500 this year in total between

you know catches out the backfield i think he was like top five in receptions as well so he's their be-all and all and it was over from from the kickoff like the Niners this iteration of the Niners, they have to play with a lead in order for them to be able to do the shit that they like to do on offense. And right away, like, I had just gone to a friend of mine's house

and I walk in, I see the kick return. I'm like, I just wasted a 30-minute drive for nothing. I just, there's some games and some plays where it's just a bad omen and right off the bat. For me, I thought it was over right when the first play happened. Yeah, I mean, if not the first play,

the first quarter, it was 17-0 in the first quarter. And they're playing in Seattle, into Nick's point, you know, they call the crowd the 12th man for a reason. It's the loudest stadium in the NFL out of all the franchises. You know, they keep a barometer meter to see who has the loudest stadium. They have the loudest stadium. That's why I felt when San Fran played them a few weeks ago, home field advantage was really going to be important and they didn't do it.

But Nick made a great point. They've been hurt all year. They did the best what they had. Then when kittles went down, you know, it was definitely over for their season. But getting this far with the injuries they had, I haven't seen IUC in 17 years. I don't even know the last time. God bless him that OJ might have been alive the last time we've seen him in the guy I've. I have not seen him since he signed this contract.

He held out, wanted all that bread, got the money, and got hurt the very next week or two after he got the money. So, but yeah, I like Kyle Shanahan a lot. I don't know if he's going to get coached at a year. I really like what Gorn did in Chicago. First year and with Caleb Williams, I really like what they did. I don't know, but give a fair and their credit, but the game was over in the first quarter. Yeah, they tried, though.

Okay. And the Texans lost to the Patriots, 28 to 16. Nick, what were some of the biggest takeaways you got from this game? C.J. Stroud kind of getting close. but what are your thoughts? I know this is a serious allegation I'm going to say, but we got to investigate him for porn-shaven, bro. Because that's CJ Stroud.

Yeah. That performance, four interceptions in the first half, he looked like he wanted nothing to do with that game, to the point where, like, it was a serious combo on, like, Twitter and even the halftime show between Ryan Clark and Marcus Spears, like, yeah, we should bench him for Davis Mills.

Davis Mills was 3-0 with them as a starter. He's played in games because he, was doing nothing for them and they even cut it to six points in the second half and like if you're new england you're saying yeah we got like six turnovers on this dude and this offense and it's a one score game i had a couple friends that were there at that game that are pass fans from back home and they were just like bro we couldn't believe it like it got awkwardly quiet in the stadium like bro we're dominating everything but cj stroud i think it's an even bigger conversation because he's going to be due for an extension how do you feel about a guy like c j strowell

from what you've seen the first three years of his career, like he's going to make north of $300 million if it comes to that. And I don't know if I would want to give that contract, bro. Yeah, exceptional rookie year, subpar second year, got hurt this year and finished up the season really, really strong. I think he caught some jitters in the playoffs. He was on the road, and I think he has some jitters.

Dude, I think that he bounced back from a year. Drake may fumbled four times. They just recovered two times of it. So it isn't like Drake May didn't fuck up neither. It's just that C.J. Strout lost and Drake May, New England, recovered two of the four fumbles. So it ain't like Drake May. I had the perfect game, too.

I guess he's white, so it's all right. What you're not going to do. I line myself off for that one. What I will say is one of those interceptions, it touched the wide receiver's hands and they picked it off that way. so I don't blame him for that one. And the Patriots defense is probably one of the best defensive teams in the league. And another thing that I think people forget is that, you know, Floyd Mayweather always talks about those lights.

Those lights on and the playoffs, it's a whole different intensity. It's a whole different level. And what I watched in that game was I watched the Patriots, man, they were hitting the shit out of those players for the Texas. And we always talk about the Texas defense. But I can't blame, I can't blame that young quarterback. I didn't think he was point-shaving at all. And then also, I think he's a good role model. I think he represents that team very well.

And I think they're going to give him every penny of that. He's a good young man. He handles business. And that Patriot defense, man, they were flying all over the place in bad, inclemented weather. Did I say that right? Yeah, yeah. Bad weather. Horbough weather.

And like you said, I mean, one of the picks wasn't his fault. It looked that way, though. It looked bad. But I don't blame him. That defense was all over the place. And I think that's why I think the Patriots and the Seahawks get to the Super Bowl. I don't know. I think CJ made them look a lot better.

You know, he didn't have Nico Collins, and I think Nico Collins is one of like the few receivers in the league. You'd understand this right. I think he actually means something against the point spread because of what the drop off from him to the next guy is. Right? Like when Jamar Chase don't play for the Bengals, well, you still got T. Higgins. He's an elite wide receiver. But a guy like Nico Collins, when he's not in there, he's a top. 10 wide receiver. And him and CJ Strz

have had amazing chemistry since CJ got into the league. And that's when Nico Collins really exploded onto the scenes. I think that Nico Collins not being there really hurt him. And then they lost Dalton Schultz also. But there was just a couple of plays where like he either misreceivers by a lot

or that defense looked a lot better because of CJ Sean. Well that goes back to what Cam said last week about and I thought about this when I was, when Brady was describing how to throw a ball in those conditions. Oh, that I mean, it was raining pretty bad, and then by the time the game was over, it was snowing. So there was a lot of bad conditions.

And don't Texas play in a dome? I think they play in the dome. So, I mean, like, all those things coming to play, man, like a lot of those things coming to play. And I thought that was a, listen, a lot of pressure when those lights come on. This is the winning time. And I just felt like, like I said, one of the interceptions, the guy hit him right in the hands, went right through his hands, picked it off, almost went the other way. Right? I mean, like you said, if the other guy fumbles four times, he just gets it back.

I mean, and they still were in the game. That was the biggest thing to me. So I took two of them fumbles away. He did just recover two of them, but he did fumble four times. Yeah, he led the league in fumbles Drake May this year. And I do feel like the second half, when they talked about that, he played good in the second half. I mean, he played a lot better than he did the first half. Couldn't play any worse, though.

Yeah, well, that too. but I mean they had a chance to win the game on the road. And the Patriots have been tough all year long, especially at home. They look like the old Patriots, like, you know, when Brady was there. I will say, because usually, like, Larry, I do agree with you because that's how I think. I'm like, I don't think this is the time to just completely, like, go against him. But, like, there were some rough moments that he's going to have to work on because not even just the Patriots game, the Steelers game as well. I think he, let me find the, yeah, the staff.

I have. It's the first player with over five interceptions and over five fumbles in a single postseason, and that's only within two games. We just got to fix that. Mistakes do happen in football, and that's why I give him grace because he's still a young quarterback with the high ceiling, a lot of potential. And like we said, some of his key people weren't there. I think that he works on it. But it's like, we can't have that happen. But you know, the internet is so quick to turn on people anyways. So it's like, everybody's like, man, C.J. Stroud is ass. They'd be so quick to do all that.

Internet? Yes. I never said he was ass. You never said he was asked. I'm not just talking about C.J. Stroud. I'm talking about people just turning on their teams. I saw that coming a mile away. Yeah, I'm not just talking about

turning on your team. He's a young good franchise player. He deserves that money that's coming up. He doesn't. Look, think about this. And this shit pisses me off. Sinning shit turn again. By the way, son, you say, we don't talk about Knicks.

They got smacked by Dallas last night. We need a trade, bro. It's bad. Don't say I didn't bring the Knicks up. Dallas smacked the Knicks. Shout to PT. That's his team, Dallas Mavericks. But I gave the Knicks Day shine.

We're not going to continue to talk about that. But, yeah, he pisses me off because I've been telling Sin about. Like, for instance, right, it's two different things now today about Trevor Lawrence for a few years. And then he's like, when he got his big conjo, they're like, yo, who is this long-hand nigga? Why are they paying them all this money? What is they paying them all this money for?

Like, I'm like, yo, they see, you pay based on what you think somebody could do in the future. You know, you don't, you know, pay them a little bit for what they did in the past, but you're basically paying them for what you think that they could do for your franchise in the future. Now that Drake Mae Sen has watched a lot of playoff football this season, which he hasn't watched in the past. Every week he got a new favorite nigger.

So now he calls Trevor Lawrence Mugger. He's like, yo, one nigger Mugger playing this week. And I'm like, I just hang up on him because you was hating on the nigger for the last two and a half years when I've been trying to tell you, he has a high ceiling. And you're like, yeah, I wouldn't be paying these niggas, all these two, three hundred million, y'all, y'all, y'all. Now he's talking about nigger mugga is better than Josh.

because of him fucking. It's pissing me off with it. Actually. Then yesterday, two days ago, three days ago, how long it was, yo, you ain't telling me about Bo Nix. I said, yo. What?

He's annoying, yo. He's just so, you know, he's so annoying, man. But to your point, Larry, he's young. He has a lot of time left. And, you know, you're saying you don't want to pay him.

But he, everybody's not going to perform in the beginning under them late. So that's a great analyst, analysis, what you said too. Some lights are bright and others, and it's not necessarily meaning lights, moments, and some

people are going to not handle moments like that, but you take experience and you take it to the next year. They won nine games in a row, the Texas before they lost, 10 games in a row before they lost, and I thought that's outstanding for somebody who just came off of injury. And you think about their coach,

their coach actually played against Aaron Rogers, you know, but, you know, I credit to Aaron Rogers, but these are all young people building something. I don't think you throw everybody under the bus, even though it was bad. I have to agree with Nick, it was bad, but I'm not going to turn my back on what they did in the second half of the season, including CJ Strout being hurt in the beginning of the season. So Nick, I do want to ask you this because it seems like me, Cam and Larry are like in some sort

of agreeance, and I think you're kind of just like, I don't know. So like you have some concerns for CJ Stroud being the face of the franchise, or you think like things will kind of have an up. No, so like, this is his, he's been in the, this is sixth playoff game. You know, like every year that he's been in the league, he's won a playoff game and they've made the playoffs, right? I just look at like, like, I remember as a Giants fan,

I remember when they saw Daniel Jones, I was like, uh-oh, right? There's a couple contracts like Tua, DAC, you kind of know what the ceiling is with these guys. And I think CJ Stroud, like to Larry's point, outstanding citizen, no, no controversies off the field. Like, he's a role model. That's the guy you want to give the keys to the car to, right? I get that.

But the money that they're making now, like, if you look at the list, Dak Prescott's $60 million, Josh Allen 55, Borough 55. The next quarterback's coming up is going to be making him north of 60. It's like, when you do that, they're not going to be able to pay the eight guys that are pro bowlers on defense. You know, Will Anderson is going to be a lot. for a contract. Stingley just got paid. Petrie, Al-Shire, the linebacker. It's like,

I don't think he's a guy that can elevate the rest of his team. They're benefiting from all these rookie contracts. I feel the same way about Bo Nix, and he's white. The thing about it is right. Bo Nix is in the league. This is the second year, right? Yeah. Bo Nix 25. CJ Stroud, 24. It's 24 years old. Even though you're right, he's gaining experience, but who's a younger quarterback in the position that he's in.

All the people that you name is getting towards 30 years old, if not 30 years old already. It's 24. You got time with me. Bo Necks was in college, one of the Miami situations, old-ass nigger in college. You know what I'm saying? So, C.J. Straught, this is his third year.

Is it? This is his third year. You got somebody like Bo Nex who has a Sean Payton, and Sean Payton is really good coach. But he's 24. he has plenty, plenty of time to get better. So he throw him under a bus at 24 years old. You drive a hard bargain, bro.

Well, the other thing is, the other thing is that the NFL is a business. And while being in the sports book the other day, one of the comments from females that I heard was he's super cute. And if you don't know now, the female market drives, I think, 56% of sales from the NFL. So as a business, give him that money. He's going to get that back in Jersey sales as a businessman. That's just me as a businessman because at the end of the day, NFL is entertainment for us.

And I think people forget those aspects of that as well. You know, this is still a business. And I think that, you know, the women actually like him. And he's marketable. You think they also like him if he goes 6 and 11? I think the women like him. And they want to come see a young man like him who's well-groomed. He's, I don't even want to say this because that sounds bad.

He speaks well. He doesn't hurt your organization. He helps your, he helps bring fans, female fans, who spend the money at the end of the day. And to me, I mean, obviously we like the win, right? But at the end of the day, it's still a business. And I'm looking at that strictly from a business aspect. Yeah, and that's a great point.

You see Amber Rose is on the nigga early. You don't see, try to lock the nigga down early. Yeah. You got me a young nigga, this nigga cute, boys. me put this nigga on the slut walk early than the nigga Yeah What? But then the church

But then the church got involved Like he's a Christian shit This is how you know I'm gonna be honest with you right Statt never talk bad about that nigga Because he's cute She don't never say nothing bad She didn't say one thing bad

I'll dissing a nigga I'm not going to disoomple about his money You ain't hear what she just said She said it's some things we need to clean up We got to clean that up. I peeped it. I was going to leave it alone, but Larry, you bought it up. Yeah.

But I was in the sports book, and the females were like, oh, my God, he's so cute. And don't hurt him. Like, they were like into him. Yeah, and it was like, oh, my God. And I'm sitting there going, oh, okay, like, but that's a draw. And at the end of this, this is business. Yeah, yeah, business. I mean, it's business.

Those jersey sales mean a lot when you're selling those jerseys for. for $300 and $250 and, you know, they're making profit off of that. That $300 give it to him. They're getting it back. Yeah. So I got a question for you guys because, and using CJ Strata as an example, do you guys ever watch a player and you find out his contract and you're like,

yo, I like him for $12 million? But then when you know he's going to make $55, you're like, I don't know if I'd be comfortable with him. Yo, that sin's life, yo. Yo, everybody. I feel him on that, bro. I feel him, though. Listen, don't want nobody to get that money, yo.

Every, yo, that's his favorite argument. Yo, just what you say. Yeah, come on, man, I get a nigga 32. 55. I used to do a show with Will Blackman. He played 14 years in the NFL. And anytime we'd have these conversations, he's like, yo, bro, I'm telling you, you're wrong. Like, always side with the player.

You'll tear your elbow and they'll just, like, cut you the next thing. He's like, I'm telling you, especially in the NFL, always side with the player. So I'm always a little conflicted. I feel like a hypocrite. And it's probably the one thing in sports where I do feel like a hypocrite. But I do be watching some players. And like I said, like with Daniel Jones, he had that one magical year where they made the playoffs. And I was like, oh, man, 140 million.

That's going to set us back. And it did. You know, there's just certain contracts that I think, I like you for 12 million. I don't know about 47. I can't argue with that. Sin annoys me what it knows me. I can't argue. But what it boils down to is this.

You got to give the credit to Kobe Bryant. God bless the day. He's the one who started paying attention to television contracts. When the Lakers want to give him, say, yo, Kobe, why wouldn't you take a pay cut to get more players? You know, Sally Cratt was cap was way lower back then. He's like, why would I take a pay cut? And the Lakers just did a $3 billion deal with the television network. So that's when, you know, the players wasn't eating off the television networks.

They're keeping the salary cap low. So now every year with these new deals, the NFL or the NBA is doing, the salary cap is going to go up because now the players and the player unions say, yo, hold the fuck up. Y'all niggins just did the 70. I'm exaggerating, of course, $17 billion. What you mean the salary cap is $80 million for the team? No, we got to fix that. Because y'all are making more money. The players are paying more money.

Of course it's the product, the shield, the NBA logo, the baseball, whatever it is. But they're paying to see the players. That's why the money keeps going up. Like Doc Prescott, when you sit there and say, yo, you're getting $55 million, people get mad about it. But how much is the NFL making off of that? You know, it's not going to hurt Jerry Jones. Even though Jerry Jones is a true businessman, he don't want to pay niggas, like, I got to

keep paying these niggas and I'm not winning. I get it. But y'all keep going to do deals. NBA, I can't find a fucking NBA game I want to see. So ESPN the night, Peacock tomorrow morning, NBC. It's all over the place. Adam Silver is doing their Amazon this week. This shit was with ESPN T&T.

Now it's on 19 channels and to me is damaging the product because I'm not downloading every app. I'm just going to have to miss some games. I'm not getting Peacock to go see game 26 of the NBA season. Then I got to have Amazon. Then I got no one's on ESPN. Then I got to know it's on NBC. They're collecting more money.

The players are going to make more money. That's just the way to go. Do they deserve it? You may say they don't deserve it. But when the companies or the franchises, not just the franchises, the leagues they're playing for is making an extra $2 billion, and that's just the way it's going to go. I definitely feel like the players deserve every penny that they got. Those dudes go out there.

They have CTE. They have all these things that they don't even know about future problems, future traumas down the road. And I could agree with you on those things, and I get the point you're trying to make. but I'll agree with you when the owners open up the books and tell us exactly how much they're making. Then I would feel more comfortable saying something like that. Because I feel like now some of these players,

you know, if we knew how much the owners were really making, because nobody really knows how much they're making. I mean, these guys are probably making billions of dollars, and they're like, yo, they'll probably laugh. Cam, we already paid them $32 million. We made $32 billion last year. Oh, for sure. I'm just saying, like, come on.

I mean, when you say that, it's like, I get it. but nah, man, these dudes out there, they're having car accidents almost every play. Yeah. On your body. Every play they're having car accidents. No, for sure. And I feel like there's like a handful of athletes

that are vastly underpaid and most of them are like the highest paid in the league, like Otani, right? Like you can make a case with the international market. He's vastly underpaid. Steph Curry, when he got there, they were like $450 million evaluation. Now they're like the third. most expensive franchise in all of sports.

It's like he's making $45 million a year from Golden State. He's vastly underpaid. So 60. 60, yeah. So it's like he's still underpaid, though. If you went from $400 million to $10 billion, it's like, bro, it's all because of him. I saw Jonathan Abraham.

He played for the Raiders for a minute out here. And we went to lunch after they played the Cowboys one game. And he showed me some bruises. We were at breakfast. And there were bruises on his neck on both sides. Other players were walking out of the little eatery we were in. And, man, they were struggling, man. And I was thinking, damn, these dudes are really banged up.

I mean, I'm talking about the bruises from the shoulder pads. I'm like, yo, bro, he's like, I had to go in my hyperbaric chamber to sleep today just to get to rejuvenate. And I'm like, nah, I mean, that ain't the way I want to live. You know what I'm saying? That's a tough way to live. So get them every penny. I mean, I give what you saying.

But get him every penny. They deserve that money, too. They put their bodies on the line every single day. So shout out to them boys who can secure them high contracts. Okay, so Rams beat the Bears 20 to 17 in overtime. Nick, how good of a game did you think that was? And then what was going through your mind while watching it? Like, what were your overall thoughts?

I thought the game was pretty whack until the last five minutes. That's where it really got good. The entire playoffs, I think there's been the most lead changes in the fourth quarter in, like, NFL history. And we still got the AFC championship game, NFC championship game. NFC championship game and the Super Bowl. That's in the fourth quarter. The Lee changes.

I thought it was a great ending. Caleb Williams has really had, what, seven or eight miracle Hall of Fame throws in like the last two months, it seems like. He really earned a lot of people's respect and what they've done in Chicago. I think they're going to be a problem moving forward. And the one thing that they got also,

and if you're a team like the Titans, the Giants, the Saints, you know, the Raiders next year, it's favorite that they're going to get Mendoza who just won the National Championship. It was like, yo, you could turn it around if you get the quarterback on a rookie contract. And that's what Caleb and the Bears did.

My question to you, Cam, is, I feel like momentum is such a real thing, bro. I feel like they should have went for two after that play when they scored that touchdown, you know, that fourth and four where he throws it from like the 50 yard line. Like, you know, I picked the Rams at the beginning of the year to win the Super Bowl, and I had Stafford as my MVP.

And when that play happened, I was like, yo, they got to go for two. Like, I always think of it, Larry. As a better two, I always think of it as like, what don't I want them to do right now? And to me, it was like, I don't want them to go for two.

So when they put the Santos out there to kick the PAT, I was like doing my cross. I was like, oh, thank God. Thank the football guys that they're not going for two. Because they just had the momentum. It's like, yo, you were just on a fourth and four and you rolled all the way back to the 40.

you basically threw a Hail Mary, you score it there. Crowd is going crazy. The Rams are rattled. You got to go for two there, man. What do you think about that? I'm not mad at your philosophy. I'm not going for two. I wouldn't be mad at it.

And real quick, I say Gordon. I met Ben Johnson for Coach of the Year. I'm not mad at your philosophy. It's just that you got the momentum. This thing is got seven comebacks this season. And to be honest with you, let's think about overtime, right? The Rams get the ball first. They stop the Rams.

The Bears get it. Then you're in field goal range. There was no reason to throw that pass that Caleb Williams threw that interception for. You could have just kept picking them apart for six, seven yards, even if Caleb Williams scrimmers. A lot of shit is play calling, too. The play call is very questionable throughout the whole year. You know, I see niggas on the first and goal

inside the five and do two passing plays and then run it on the third down. You know what I'm saying? Like this, not just, I'm talking about the play. I'm just talking about all year. I've been questioning play calling. But I'm not mad at that.

Like, fuck it, let's go for it. But then you got to hear it on Monday of you to coach. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you do that? Why would this down the third? If you do it, you're a hero.

Think about this, right? Two years ago, Two years ago Dan Campbell was a real nigga Fuck that He go forth fourth down He don't give him a fuck there He got Detroit looking good

Looking good You know what this out there This year they're like They're Campbell may need to calm the fuck down With all this trying to go forward and forth They may need to let somebody else call the place And then you eventually get blamed for it I'm not mad at that philosophy

They would have went for two I would have been like that's gutsy And they might have got it But me, I would have did the same thing. I just would have better play calling in overtime because the next score wins. The Rams didn't score. So now you have an opportunity just to kick a field goal and you win the game because the Rams didn't score. You didn't have to go for a 20-yard pass to try and get that far.

Like I don't even think that play calls the right play. I would have got to the 30, 20, to the 40-30-yard line and let my kicker do. the rest. I literally thought, I'm not lying to you. When they scored the thing, I said, go for two. First thing I said, go for two. The momentum means everything. I was talking to sit another day about momentum.

Momentum is real. And I felt like when he scored, the first I said, just go for the two. It doesn't matter at this point. Go for the fucking two. And I really thought they probably would have got it. That crowd was going bananas in there on that last play. And I probably, the gambling me would have been like,

fuck him. We got the moment. Crowds were going, I would have a situation early in that game. No, I don't want to get my games mixed up. They had like a fourth and three on the goal line. They didn't get it. Yeah, they did on the drive before. Yeah, but we're talking momentum.

Yeah, that's why. I feel like when you take everything into consideration. That energy was crazy. Yeah, the energy in its fourth and four. And, you know, it was technically a 14-yard touchdown pass, but it was from the 45-yard line that he threw it. And the Rams were rattled at that. point. They were rattled. I mean, to me, but I get it.

No, I'm not disagreeing with you. Look, that's gussy. That's gussy. Yeah, yeah. And momentum is a real thing. Yeah. You're not a gambler, though. You're not, you're going to play it safe. My first thing was, go for two. And I didn't have, I mean, at that point, I didn't have none of the gambling on that game, but go for two. Just fuck it. Go for two. You might as well. Yeah, that's why, like, I really, sometimes when I'm watching sports, I put myself on the other side and I'm like, if I had a ticket on this game, if I had a bet on this game, what would I not want them to do? And them not going for two was like a relief for me. That's how I was thinking

about it. Just because, again, like the momentum's a real thing. The problem is, like you said, you got to, on Monday, you got to, if they don't make it, you got to answer a lot of questions, man. And your job is on the line at that point. No, it's his first year. He wasn't going to lose his job regardless. Yeah, I would have to win for a thing. I would have to answer it. I would have went for a thing. And you got to deal with that shit in Walgreens and in the supermarket. I would have went for And niggas is coming up to you like, yo, why didn't you this? With this, Caleb Williams through the interception.

That's on him. But at the same time, he's not going to get, Caleb Williams is not going to get that much discredit for that situation because without that pass, you don't go to overtime. You know, I think everything with the Bears was a successful season considering their organization. They haven't won two-player. They won their first playoff game in 15 years, and then they haven't won two-pli-old. playoff games since 2006. This was a very successful year for the big.

Now, the one thing I disagree with Nick on is, is that next year they won't be this, it won't be, it won't be this good for them next year. Because I don't think people, they'll be like the Lions. The people, the year before, the people will be a little bit prepared for them. That's what happens.

These teams play really good, and they break out a little bit. And then the next year people are like, oh, oh, the bears are coming to town. They remember those things. And they get a little bit more prepared for them. Well, I think this year showed a lot of transparency in the NFL. You think about, like I said, we talk, and that's a great point, too,

because think about the commanders last year. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Even though Jay and Daniels got hurt or whatever, but I just like it better when you don't know that Patrick Mahomes is going to be in the Super Bowl every year or it's not going to be Josh Allen against Patrick Mahomes. outside of Matthew Stafford, you got three young

quarterbacks, well, stood them in the nail, but if it was Boe Nix, that's going to, they could possibly go to the Super Bowl. And I think that's where the league is going as well, where they're saying, let's start marketing these stars

because that's the new generation coming up as well. And real quick, you mentioned Mahomes and Jaden Daniels. To your point, Larry, like the three things you always look for is strength of schedule, health and one score games, right? Like last year we kept talking about,

yo, chiefs are like 11 and 0 in one score games. What happens this year? They're 1 in 8. So you don't get that PI call that you got last year that gave you first and goal. They don't give it to you this time. They don't call that Holden. The fumble that Drake May had,

they didn't recover those two. So like Chicago, I'd be concerned if I'm embarrassed and I don't want to shit on their parade because they just had a magical season, but it's just something to keep in mind. Detroit, the same thing, right? Like, there's always regression where if you do so well in one score games,

games, you can't bank on like, yo, we went eight and one and one score games last year. Maybe you go four and four. And that's the difference from 12 and five to eight and nine. Now you're not in the playoffs. So it's just something to keep in mind, too. And like you said, Jaden Daniels last year, the commanders, amazing in one score games. My home's and the chiefs. So like just something to monitor from moving forward. Yeah. I'm going to claim it now. I'm going to just be optimistic for the Bears because I just feel like you couldn't have predicted anything that would have happened this season. And I feel like it'll be the same next season just because we've seen just a shift in a lot of ways and even like coaches who have been with teams for like multiple years

being fired and shifted around. I just feel like next year is going to be a good year because everybody is obviously back and we're going to kind of see the landscape of where things go. So I would still be optimistic and I know you're saying they could prepare, but like you literally can't prepare to a certain extent for what could happen. What year is this for Caleb? Was this this third year? No, year two. Okay, year two. Okay. And that's the other thing too, to your point, like they'll be able to spend, I think they have like the fifth highest cap space because he's on a rookie contract. Yeah.

So they'll be able to bring in some big names. Yeah, which is crazy. And to be totally honest with you, they told the coach when he got there, we can't spend a bunch of money on defense, even though their defense look decent because we have to put some things to protect Kalin and have some stuff on offense. So he didn't have a bunch of money to even spend on defense. Yeah. Okay.

So last thing before we wrap, we got the Atlanta. of Falcons, they hired Kevin Cefansky as their new head coach. We know he was previously the coach for the Browns. A lot of mixed feelings on this, but Nick, what are your feelings? And do you think that he's a good fit for the Falcons? I think he's a great fit. I actually, before Harbaugh got let go, that's who I wanted the Giants to sign. I think he's a really good offensive mind. He was in Minnesota the year that they went to the NFC title game. He had Case Keenham, be like a competent starter. I think the way it played out in Cleveland, the last like two, three months with, you know, his dynamic with Shador and Dylan Gabriel and how he handled that.

I think that soured a lot of people. But, you know, he's won coach of the year twice. Joe Flacco led them to the playoffs and he was on the couch and then he kind of like, I don't want to say, revitalized Baker's career. But, you know, he didn't make the playoffs with Baker also. And that was the last time that Cleveland had made the playoffs, I think prior to that, it was like a decade plus. So I think he's a really good offensive mind. And I think Atlanta is, that's a team. If they could get their hands on a quarterback,

like that would be a sick destination for a Lamar. You know, Lamar going over there with the weapons that they have. I know you've been hyping up Drake London camp for a minute now. He's a hell of a receiver. Nah. I can't fuck with you if you have nine season-ending injuries before, like, I never would have drafted him because he tore his ACL three times, had an Achilles, and then, you know, what happens this year?

he hurts his knee. Kirk Cousins, you want to go into the next year with him? He's going to be 37, 38. And it's like, all right, he did play better the second half of the year when he came in a year after, you know, the Achilles tear. But they need a fresh start down there. But they got Bejohn. If they bring back Kyle Pitts, I think the defense is young enough. And that division, not for nothing.

Like Carolina, there was, you know, Mace always talks about it. They were selling tickets for 50 cents. And then they won the division. It's like, that division is not that crazy. what's Tampa going to look like. So I like that move. Sorry. Go ahead, Cam.

You can forget about getting Lamar Jackson. If that's what you're thinking about. You could just forget about that shit. Baltimore did not get rid of Jim Harbaugh by accident. I don't think him and Lamar Jackson was on the same page, and they went with Lamar Jackson. Even when the only did the press conference, they were like, yo, Lamar, you want to be part of this head coach and shit?

Get the fuck up here. and let's pick a head coach, even though he said the decision is going to be his final decision. I don't got shit to say about the nigger until you come out the closet and tell us what the fuck happened, what should do all. He's professional, he's not going to do it. Nick is correct.

Great coach, two-time coach of the year. All the statinick said is good. Should be a good fit. But what the fuck happened with Shadour? Blame it on the owner. Blame it on General Manager. Tell us what happened. And tell us you ain't have control.

That situation was fucked up. It's going to linger with you until you win again. And when you win again, black people may, you know, you go into a black-ass city. You go into a black city. It's niggott out out there. So if you win, they may forgive you, but you got to stain on your record until you start winning again. We want to know what the fuck happened towards the end of the season with your door. You want answers, nigger.

Facts. Okay. And before we wrap, Nick, because you are a Giants fan, With Harbaugh as your coach, how far do you think y'all can go? 13 and 4. Look, we've seen, yo, on a serious note, right? Yeah, yeah. All right.

He didn't even know how to react. So, look, so hear me out. They lost a bunch of games by one score. Dart year two. They're getting guys back healthier. They'll have money to spend. They, you see it with the Pats. You saw it with Denver.

You saw it with the Bears. they got new coaches or a new quarterback in the second year, and they turned it around. That division is not going to be as crazy. I think Dallas declines. I think Philly's going to look a lot different. Washington, they're still an old team, even though they're going to get Daniels back.

Yeah, I'm thinking 13 and 4 MVP for DART. I'm thinking craziness. To wrap it up, if you guys. Giant fans, let us know how you feel it. No, no, I'm actually really optimistic about my team. But you say this every year, Nick, we're going to go 13 and 4. Not with the Giants. You said this year, I was making the playoffs.

You said that before the season started. Nah, I said that when they put dart in, but then when they lost... You said it before the season started. No, when they lost to Denver, you invited me back on the show when my team was down bad and we had a heartbreak and you're like, yeah, you could come on the show and tell us how you feel. That's when I changed my tune, but I never said that before the season. Yeah, next year they're going to be all right. You'll have the Giants had on, I know.

I got the Giants chain I've been worn years, so. You'll bring it out. I'll give it by Halloween. Giants fan, let us know how y'all feel it in the comments down below. But Nick, thanks for joining us today. Thank you for having me. This is a fun show. But that is all the time that we have for today.

Thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is.