IT IS WHAT IT IS - IF JA MORANT DON'T CARE THAN WE DON'T CARE & ADVICE TO ATHLETES ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE WOMEN!

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, why are all the young NBA Superstars Wildin'?! Ja Morant is acting like he don't care about how his career and the antics are going so Killa says why should we?? Carmelo Anthony takes his rightful place in the basketball HOF with his induction as a first ballot entrant being announced, how do you remember THE REAL MELO's career? Then, Anthony Edwards and the baby mama drama continues! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and Missouri, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and Missouri, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app.

Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus credits with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Treasurer Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam. Killer was good, man. Rada, what up, man? How you doing today? I'm doing fine, man. Right. What up, man? How you doing today? I'm doing fine, man.

Doing fine. Not as good as I'm looking, but when working on it. Okay. That's what's up. Good to hear. I'm always doing as good as I look. You know, I was going gonna say that too right? You can count on killer to one-off you know that? I really don't know.

I kind of got it from you, the arrogance. Slacking. Yeah. No, that's good. I want to keep you up to par. I got it from you. I didn't say that. Let me tell you something. You really outside the show, of course, the show, but

you the last nigga in the world I'm in competition with. I ain't no con with you outside the show though. On the show I gotta do what I gotta do. Yeah. Okay. So we're going to get into this Celtic. So they lost to the E. Yo murder.

Yeah. Yo murder. Yeah. Yeah. Murder. Yeah. Murder. You ever notice how that just sex waste? I said, well, I said she's like, tax. OK, what's the fact? What's that? Is that what I'm like? I don't know. The whole war, the whole like, you know, I can't really enter that chat conversation. Just like, yeah, that's styling.

You all started style. That's that. That's that. No, it's you know, you know, what you know, was my favorite facts. And then I'm a segue is the more you know. OK, let's move on. Because sometimes sometimes things be mad left field. And I'm just like, okay.

It's really not much, you know? Yeah. And I want to wish you a very happy, happy, happy birthday to a guy named Freemade who hooked me up with JD to make sure I get the multiple million dollar deal free. I wanted to tell you in front of the world, thank you, man. I appreciate you. Because a lot of times his name get lost in translation. People say JD, they say this, but Free was the one that actually put it together. He brought it to my attention. I want to make sure I make that right. Guys, that's Fax. Let me see it.

I'm not going to say Fax because now I'm hyper aware of it. And so now every time you're like, think you give different words. I'm going to come up with something different. Y'all going to hear it like, oh, that's a new one. And y'all going to be proud. So just wait on it. OK, so the Celtics lost to the Heat 124-103 and the Celtics lost their nine game winning streak. Jalen Brown returned after missing the team's previous game with a knee injury. He said, I've had to come to grips that every night, I'm not going to feel like

my normal self. Mace, do you think this injury alone from Jalen Brown kind of changes the trajectory of the Celtics or do you think they'll be OK? To answer the question, I think with the with the injury to Jalen Brown, the Celtics are not the same without him. As he comes back, he has, you know, 24 points or so. But it still doesn't seem like it. You just don't expect them to be the same team without Batman.

You know, I last year we established him as Batman on this team. They were in order for them to win, especially when it comes around June. They're going to need him to be a four four four, 100 percent ability. So this piece is going to throw me off. But I would say they're not the same without them. Well, listen, nobody's a hundred percent. At, at when the playoffs come around, I knew your players every year. I'm only about 60%.

I'm 70% of 80%. No player starts in October and makes it to June is a hundred percent. I can't say everybody. I can't talk very bright, but you hear this from a lot of different players. everybody I can't talk very bright but you hear this from a lot of different players so if you get a Jalen Brown at 75 85% I think the Celtics will be all right the substance is probably second and third deepest team pause are in the NBA as far as their bench as far as their role play as far as people that could step up we got to think about this it was one game with Derek White and I

can't even think of a white boy name off the top of my head that comes off the bench. They both had 40. And Derrick White and the nigga off the bench had 40 a piece in one game. I think they'll be all right as long as Jalen Brown is at least 70%, 75%. I think they'll be straight.

Him not being there, that's another story. But if he's on the floor giving what he can give, I think the Celtics straight. I'm not being there. That's another story. But if he's on the floor, uh, give him what he could give, I think the substance will be all right. At least, at least to get to the championship in the East. We'll see what happens when they would have to play in the West. Okay. And then you were mentioning Prichard white. That's the game between both of them where they did.

Yeah. Prichard white and they got last name is white. I mean, Peyton, Peyton Pr I mean paying right paid in Pritchard Pray and pretty yeah pray in Pritchard. I just know it's a little white boy in the sultry's that be doing this thing So my bad, I'll make sure to keep his name in my mental road that that's prayed it is pronounced pray and stat pay in Pritchard Yes, oh Like paint like painting manning. Yes Yes. Oh, like, like Peyton Manning. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Peyton and Derek White. Yeah. So yeah, they have 40 a piece of one game. And I don't know what you call you got Batman and Robin.

Well, who do you know, don't go to fuck a bank, you know, to have 40 a piece of the game and then at the main place. I think that the substance will be just fine. As long as Jalen Brown is in the game to some sort of capacity. Okay. And then we got some good news. So 10-time NBA All-Star Carmelo Anthony has been notified that he has been elected into the Basketball Hall of Fame class of 2025. So just in reflection of his career and then all that he's done for the sport, what are your thoughts on him being elected? When it come to Carmelo, this is definitely no surprise.

When you talk about people that actually belong there, Carmelo is one. When you talk about people that should make it on the first ballot, Carmelo is one. He's been a brilliant player since the day that I saw him on a basketball court from the first time. And I didn't have the privilege of watching Carmelo in high school. But when he was playing down at as Syracuse and watching them win that

championship and coming to the NBA, doing this thing at Denver and just the, it seemed like his scoring got better and better as time progressed. And then when he made his way to New York, I was like, man, New York might be a tough city to play in. He even proved that to be a false narrative. And he does his thing there. I just think when it comes to how you will want a person to play, if you met them in the hood, Carmelo would be it. How you expect your friend to do when he gets to an NBA, Carmelo was it.

And at one time, I used to always think not even comparing them to LeBron or anything like that. So let me just leave that out. He's always been a tough competitor. All of his peers respect him. He's he's a bucket anywhere you go. And I and I love what he's done, not just for the NBA, what he's done for his hometown, even inspiring other talents

like Kevin Garnett and other Michael Beasley's and and other people that came at that same time. I just think congratulations. Even what he's doing with his son now, bringing him to that level, his whole family, la la, just different people. Blessings be upon this family. Thank you, Carmelo, for your contributions to the NBA. Yeah, Mason Mason, Kevin Durant, not Kevin Gardner.

Oh yeah, yeah. And the DMV, because they have a, yeah, not so good. Cause they have a lot of good players down there. Look, Carmelo Anthony averaged 22.7 a game. And I think his career average would have been way more, I think, you know, it got lower because he was bouncing around from team to team towards the end of his career because he still could play and still wanted to play and he wasn't getting the minutes that he deserved towards the end. But like Mase said,

he's a walking bucket, never cheated us, played to the maximum, maximum ability that he could. And listen, man, it was a big debate coming out of college in LeBron, coming out of high school, Mase was gonna talk about it but didn't. LeBron just ended up winning a lot of championships. Carmelo ended up getting a lot of money. He never joined forces with anybody. And there's no slight to LeBron or anybody else who teams up with people. But Carmelo never had that opportunity to play with two other All-Stars at one time, or at least not two All-Stars to the capacity of

somebody like Kirsch Bosch and Dwayne Wade or Kyrie Irvin and Kevin Love or Anthony Davis for that matter. I think that Carmelo did things his way. I'm happy the way it turned out. And even thinking about all the players that played at Madison Square Garden. There was a time, and I don't think it's really as important to the players today as it was at one time. But when you came to Madison Square Garden, what you were on the Knicks, of course when you're with the Knicks you play at Madison Square Garden. But there was a time when players from other

teams came to Madison Square Garden and said, I got to do my thing because I'm playing in Madison Square Garden. I'm playing in the Mecca. We've seen Michael Jordan do it. We've seen Kobe Bryant do it. We've seen Steph Curry get 55. We've seen LeBron James come in and get 56. For Carmelo Anthony to hold the record in the garden, and people don't even know that it's truly amazing 62 points in Madison Square Garden thinking about every player that came through Madison Square Garden. It's truly amazing It's a great year for him and son is getting ready go to his alma mater where he won a championship back Like may say that all you know first ballot not just Hall of Famer, but their family first ballot as a family not just Hall of Famer, but their family, first ballot as a family, La La, his son, and Carmelo.

So congratulations, Carmelo, I'm happy for you. I don't think anybody deserves it more than he does. It makes me feel, you know, like I said, I'm always up here looking good, but it makes me feel like, damn, I just seen this man get in the league. It seemed like yesterday. And to watch him grow from high

school to college to outstanding NBA career, not just NBA career. We have to think about Carmelo is also a three top gold medalist. So congratulations, Melo. I'm happy for you. Uh, couldn't be a better player that deserves it. So a little bit more information. it was real that he actually wants ownership stake in the Wizards. He said, I'll be a great owner. I am a former player. I understand players.

I understand personnel. I understand strategy. I understand being strategic and I understand how to build teams. Right. It's basically showing his interest in buying that. So what do you think of that choice by him? If that were to go through Mase? I think with Carmelo expressing his interest in the Washington Wizards, that will be the only chance they have with somebody like me watching them with it.

I think with Carmelo coming to that franchise, he would definitely bring the talent they're necessary to win. And I think, you know, he has an invested interest. He's from the DMV area. It would be perfect for, you know, even for him as a person coming home, the story alone of it will, will garner a lot more following and a lot more support than what they're getting right now. Presently game by game.

And sometime this is what you have to do. We've seen a lot of basketball players that weren't as great in basketball, but they end up being brilliant GMs. So somebody like him coming in as an owner, I think will do just fine. I would love to see Carmella as the owner. Absolutely. Like, you know, I consider Carmella one of our peers, even though he's younger than us a little bit. I just think that he would be great, but is it realistic?

Only reason I would say it's not realistic because, look, he has knowledge of the game. He's been around the game since he was a kid. You know, one thing I've mentioned that I didn't mention last segment before I finish about his interest in being an owner, it makes me think about Lenny Cook. And I was like, I remember Lenny Cook was over LeBron, over Carmelo. And yeah, and he was looking, I remember how he treated Mello and them at camp and he was rude and everything else and it just goes to show that having some type of humility matters because you don't know who the next person is you know Lenny

Cooke it came to mind earlier when I heard that Carl Mello had made it to the Hall of Fame and I'm like damn Lenny Cooke this is what happens and Lenny Cooke's my man me and Lenny Cny Cook still speak he's one of our first guests on the show shout out to Lenny Cook he'll be the first to tell you that he fucked up in certain areas but he came to mind I'm like damn man we watched Carmelo and Braun so literally in real time past somebody who was ahead of them coming up in high school but back to the the ownership, I think personally, me personally, I would love it. Is it realistic? I'm not sure. The one thing about Mello is that

Mello's still type of a hood nigger. I'm not saying he on Instagram bugging out or he wilding or doing something crazy or anything like that. He carries himself like a professional. But he wear the dark glasses, he got the dread, the army, the braids hangin'. We don't know if he gettin' high or not. Nah, I'm puttin' that on him. I'm just tellin' you, image-wise, we don't know his team. All these years, I don't know Mello's agent,

his partners, anything like that. They may be the best in the world because think about this, Mello, he racked up. He may not have no championships, but that nigga got that money. So I just think who's the team around him. When you think about LeBron saying he wants to be an owner when everything is said and done, we see the core team that LeBron had built. Randy, we see what Maverick is doing, we see what Rich Paul is doing, we see how their companies are growing, etc., etc. Now, I'm not saying Carmelo doesn't have this, I'm just unaware if he does. I just don't know. But it takes

that type of team to do something like this. To me, like I said, hell yeah, I'm with that. 100%, like I said, he's from the DMV area, et cetera. But when you watch Mellow Walk around, he's still diddy bopping a little bit. You know, he got the podcast, he said, fuck niggas on the podcast. He chiming in on hip hop beef. You know what I'm saying?

He's giving his opinion on the latest songs and all that. To be an owner, the other owners have to approve and it has to go through a certain amount of people for them to say, okay, you could be one of us. I don't know if Carmelo Anthony meets the criteria to be in there with the good old boys. You got to think about this. We had one majority owner as a black person in basketball and it was Michael Jordan. How you wanna tell Michael Jordan though? You understand what I'm saying?

And I'm pretty sure there's been other people that we are not aware of that actually tried. I remember Floyd saying he wanted to buy the Clippers when that shit happened with Donald Sterling. You know what I'm saying? And they was like, I don't know what happened, but it didn't pan out. But you gotta be one of them people who fit the criteria for the quote unquote good old boys club.

If I had a vote, hell yeah, I would vote for Mellow. But he got to stop diddy bopping. Y'all take the glasses off, got to throw one of these on once in a while. And I don't know if, I don't know if Mellow wants to do that, but to me, I would love to see the new age owner with a fitted on and glasses and braids and a ditty bob. We'll see what happens on Rooted for him, but I don't know if it's realistic just yet. That's true. But also I want to add, times are changing. I just feel like at this point, you never really know. Because like, yes,

like the suits and all that is stationary and what we say we want. But the way we've been seeing things, even like there is a clip of Robert Kraft dancing on stage with Cardi B. Like I never expected that. Then I see it now. So it's like, hey, you never know.

At this point, I think there's a lot more. That's like five years old. No, it's not. That just happened the other day. For real? Yes. You did it before. Well, I'm seeing it a lot more that I didn't see it before. No, it's not. That just happened the other day. For real? Yes. You did it before.

Well, I'm seeing it a lot more than I didn't see it before. So I'm like, hey. Let me explain something to everybody. We had, we somehow touched on this a couple shows ago. For Carmelo to be an owner, he would have to have partners. You have to be a billionaire to be an owner. Carmelo has a lot of money. He's not a billionaire. And even if he has a billion, if he has a billion, no team costs a billion. Teams cost a few billion. So you have to have partners. Robert Kraft got that chicken. Robert Kraft didn't come in the game dancing with Cardi B. Robert Kraft came in the game and won the Super Bowl,

so now he can get away with being in a hand job spot and they sweep it under the rug. He can get away with wearing a Dream Chasers chain with Meek Mills on the floor. He can get away with dancing with Cardi B, because he has to cache to say, nigga, I won seven Super Bowls. When the last time one of y'all motherfuckers did that? Matter of fact, I've been in 10.

Matter of fact, I had the best coach all time, not just the best coach all time, arguably the best quarterback all time. Get the fuck out my face. I do what I want to do. Fuck is you talking about? You have to build the cach we're winning to do the shit that Robert Kraft does it comes with the game you can't just come in saying yo fuck all that I know I got caught in a hand job spot and vocal return. Yeah, it's not gonna happen. Yeah, you can't just be walking out of apartments with your shirt off in the beginning. Yeah, yeah. At the six championships they'll let you do one of those Yeah, you can catch a couple because what they'll say is what does this have to do with me winning?

Because that's what I do. I win no disrespect to nobody anything and I'm not gonna bring up names We don't see players who win get away with murder literally players who win get away with murder literally weapons vehicular homicide or anything else if you win they'll figure some shit out and i'm not supporting that but we don't seen everything from domestic violence and football to murder but like i said not not not go kill somebody accidental they'll get you back in if you figure out a way to win. And that's just the way it is. You got to win first. Okay. So I agree with you, Stan. I agree with you. Times are changing. And I think we are a big

part of times of change. Yes. Personally. I definitely think that times are changing. But this is certain things that the good old boys, owners and so on hold on to you know they'll be like and we lose and everything but what the fuck are we gonna have cuz it was a time where I just see recently but maybe a month ago yeah I was watching the interview from the 80s there's like yeah we got like these black people I swear to God so man I can't think of this coach's name, because it was old and it was probably

85, 86, and they was like, yeah, I mean, we're letting the black people coach and what are we going to have left? They took all the players, now we're letting them coach and I was like, God damn, that was kind of harsh. I'm so mad I don't remember exactly who that was. But it was like, what are we going to have left? They're going to start coaching because they already took the players and you got to think the owners are probably the same way.

And when you're dealing, when we think about people, rich, rich black people in America, we're rich, but we're not wealthy. And even if you have a billion, that doesn't mean you can buy a team. It means you're going to go need help. We talked the other day, Magic Johnson's our own other team. What was the number? 250 million for 4% or something like that when we did the due diligence on it? It was something crazy. It was about 240 million for 4%. So let's do the math on that we don't have to do it now. I'm just this rhetorical question basically, but what's the math on? 240 million because you got a times that for four plus just rounded off the 5% you got a times

240 million times 20 To say okay, I want to own something if you're in magic Johnson's position. A lot of money being passed around that we need to start getting more into. So hopefully that happens. Okay. So we talked about it yesterday. It's not even really hard now because if you do it by 10, that's 2.4. That's 2.4 billion. Then you do another 10. It's 4.8 billion. So. What's your favorite rapper athlete? You know, got five billion despair.

Yeah, the spare. Yeah, there is definitely a huge gap that I don't have a solution to. OK, so we spoke about it yesterday. Jaws, you know, finger motions. Basically now it's reported the NBA is actually investigating that motion that he did to the bench the other night. It was also reported that Golden State's buddy

healed mocked Ja Morant by making the gun gesture back. I didn't see that part of the clip, but apparently it's there. Basically, after all this, Ja Morant went on Twitter or X and said, Ja this, Ja that with the laughing emoji, because, you know, people are talking. Do you feel like one, what the league basically decides to kind of punish?

Do you feel like it's unfair? Do you think it's precedent? Mace, they didn't give them this punishment yet. No, but basically just being under investigation for stuff like that. Do you feel like some stuff is silly or you feel like this one makes sense? I think for him that is, they hear that statement from Jai's disturbing

to a person like me because I'm a person that think and envision and patterns, right? So if I see one thing happen, like I'm going to give you an example. You see a guy, he just stopped going to school. Then the next time you see him, he doesn't look like he washed up. Then the next time you see him, it looked like he's growing his hair out then the next time you see him He's hanging out with gang members. You can kind of see where his life is going You don't have to wait to the end to know where he's gonna go. And that's what it's like when you're looking at job

If he doesn't change like something something, something could really go wrong. And that's what I don't think he's understanding, because he's in a he's in that position where most youthful, rich people have been, where you just have this access for this moment. You have this access to a lot of money. You have access to a lot of fame. And I'm rooting for him, rooting for his family, rooting for his sister playing ball, everybody.

And just understanding like not really taking it serious and you're in a serious position. And I think when you look at this situation in hindsight, if he doesn't change it, when something goes wrong, he's going to be asking people to show him sympathy when they've been trying to give you the understanding that you've been like brushing off. I feel like he's brushing off the responsibility of who he really needs to be and how serious this is because if you keep playing and something happened, it makes it impossible for people to back you because they've been telling you this the whole time.

And I think he's already been in a situation that was really catastrophic. It really shouldn't be no more playing with this particular area. So I don't give a fuck why Zoe. the I'm not giving a fuck no more. I'm tired of this message. We done delivered this message seven times to the same nigga. Go ahead, go ahead, just lose the endorsement. Go ahead, don't make all NBA. Go ahead and miss games. Go ahead, nigga. Yeah.

You know you want to be. You grew up in a two family home with a house and everything. Go ahead, thug it out. Two shites. Nigga don't look where everybody's going. Yeah, I'm just talking about those niggas look up to. Young boy NBA is in jail. Poosh shite he's in jail.

Lil Durton's in jail. Niggas is in jail. He outstead. Yeah, he just got out. He just got out. Well, listen to what we just said. He just got out. All right?

This is what I'm trying to say, nigga. This nigga gang, I don't care. You don't care. I don't care. We just say he just got out You know what I'm a star I'm a star rooting for the dumb shit Start smacking niggas. That's nice spending his face. You don't give a fuck. Take it there. I'm not the look. I'm murder. Give the word. Give the word. I'm not doing it. I tried. We tried today to die this, die that. With the laughing emoji. Let Nike come around and play. You know what? We can't promote guns. We can't do it.

I mean, me personally. Yeah, let them get his deal with Fila's. I really believe, though, to be honest with you looking at some of these commercials, right? Looking at some of these commercials, and advertisement, and so on and so forth, was going on to some of these companies, whether it be a D does or Nike, or whatever they get young hip niggas in there, or hip niggas in general, I ain't gonna say young niggas who hip in general.

Think about this, right? I'm just giving you an example. I'm giving you an example. Anthony Edwards got a new commercial. We just seen a football team about college football team. They was all singing Fantasia, remember homeboy? Saying that to his wife and coach, saying Fantasia in the locker room, and the whole team was singing it. I don't know if y'all got seen it.

Did y'all see that? It was either Fitt or it was Akisha Cole. It was one of the two. Yeah, it was an R&B song. I seen the one with Fantasia. Okay. And he was singing it to his wife. Mm-hmm. And the whole locker room was singing it. And he said that's their song. I just seen a new commercial with Anthony Edwards and his homeboy singing Fantasia. And they saw it in the car. They don't even show a sneaker. They just show Anthony Edwards and his man singing Fantasia, and then the next thing is Adidas.

It could cheer you up or some shit like that, because Anthony Edwards was supposed to be sad. Then you sit there and think about John Maran. Let's think about the Lexus way. He gets suspended a year ago, two years ago, whenever it was. They released a sneaker, number one sneaker, shit sold out and everything. Society, this is where it's going. I don't think ownership is there yet, but stat was making a point? This is where we go. And they might say, look, we got a wild cowboy, man. Fuck it. Sneakers, sullen people, men, people, men, people, man.

Fuck. As long as we sell the sneakers and nobody got shot, just let him do what he got to do. He wanted them niggas. God, John, wild out. Yeah, you're right. They just be mad when niggas when they say people put insurance on them, then they get mad. They're like, oh, they put insurance on them? Yeah, they got to protect their business if you're going to be living wild, because that's

the only way they could give you a deal because you're risky. So in you guys' opinion, just to like look at the opposite end, because I know it's always like, dang, this person's being investigated. Who do you think has like the cleanest image? Like when you think of like, you know, younger NBA like role model, who do you think fits that mold? Not younger, but a person that come to mind to me, the first name that came to me was Stephen Curry,

but he's not younger. See, that's what I'm saying like- That fits that. 27 and under. Good question. Wimby. Oh, yeah. Wimby. Again, not an American player, but

you just said twenty seven and under. You're very valid because that's who comes to mind, too. But I'm like, hey, like he's, you you know He's a foreign player and he's like hey Meet me for for chess and see you're thinking of the next generation like I'm talking about right now who has the cleanest Image that's a younger star in the NBA Answer the question is Jason Taylor man, Jaylen Brown both for the Higgins is clean Yeah, especially Jaylen Brown Jaylen Brown's a borderline genius. You know, I forget the name of the Ivy League. He fucking graduated. He didn't even have to play basketball.

He's a genius. You don't see him getting in those scandals. You don't see him having no problems. You don't see him. Only his biggest problem he had since he's been in the league is not making the USA team. Jason Taylor, same thing, comes to the game with his kid. Everybody knows his kid, very, very nice. Goes home and plays basketball. Both them niggas is clean cut. They ain't got nothing going on. They good money.

Yep. Jamal Murray. There's a lot of guys. He's not American either. Oh yeah. I'm just saying their stat wants to be American players, I can't see nobody better than Jason Tatum and- And Jaylen Brown.

Yeah that's- Jaylen Brown. That was really good. Yeah, no that's perfect. Because like even to Cam's point, like he went to UC Berkeley but then he's teaching lectures at Harvard and stuff like that. But it's like I don't feel like we see that a lot at all. So I was like, huh.

And to that point, even so, Jaylen Brown's 28, Jason Tatum's 27. So it's like, maybe they need to start. But that's the thing. You see how they don't promote Jaylen Brown as much though. That's a whole nother conversation because still a lot of things are weird to me because those are the people that should be, in my opinion, pushed more. And then I also feel like sometimes they still get disrespected, not by like players, but just like their outlook. So I don't know because that, to y'all's point, I think they're the perfect examples. So I don't know. I don't know when that's going to change when they start getting more credit because they should. They're putting on a good place.

A lot of it sometimes have to do with the woman you date, the woman people see you with that because that plays into the image, the imagery, you know. Like you're saying good women are bad women, because I also to Jason Tate and Jaylen Brown's point, I haven't seen they haven't posted with somebody that you would consider like a bad woman or role model, you're saying on the opposite end. Yeah. Hmm. Then again, I also don't see them post with women. No, I haven't seen it either. I'm just saying the concept of image.

Yeah, the concept of image, you don't separate the woman. Like even the more you see a person with somebody considered good or somebody consistently, then that plays until you think this person is safe. It's almost like Russell Wilson, when he shows up with Ciara. Ciara is not considered dangerous. She's not considered a problem.

She's not considered high risk. She's not considered high risk. Yeah. Get what I'm saying? And to see him with her consistently, she adds value to him and he has value to her. Hmm. But it's also about finding that because I also feel like high risk women. Are typically around. No, this high risk men too, this high.

Very much. Yeah, so I didn't mean to trigger you. No, that's not a trigger. I'm like, that's a good conversation. There's high risk who find their ways to people who are like in good positions. I like to say she ain't that much value. They got $10 million this year.

They got more value than her. They got a hot 10. After taxes in New York, that's 4.7. The numbers guy. Okay, so tonight the Warriors will play the Lakers. Underdog has Steph at four and a half, three pointers. May, do you have them high or lower, Mace? Higher, man. It's Steph and Curry and a half three pointers made. Do you have him higher or lower mace? Higher man. It's Stefan Curry. I can't go lower.

Then figure he's going to be lower. He definitely had five. Five threes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, that's a tough one. Look, it just came off 62. We'll go high. You might be feeling with something might be that time for us. Okay. LeBron James is at 22 and a half points. Do you have him higher lower cam? Hi.

Yeah. I think higher. He'll be right there at 24. Okay. And Luca is at 43 and a half points. Rebounds and assists Mase. You got him higher or lower lower

Yeah, I'm gonna agree with me someone have to go lower Okay, y'all underdog got a little special going on right now So every game that Luca plays for the rest of the season they're discounting his points rebounds and assists projection So to access the promo make sure you guys check out underdogs pin posts on X also Twitter on their IG stories after 11 a.m. Eastern on days when the Lakers play. So today is the perfect opportunity. Make sure y'all snag that little special on Luca. So make sure you download the underdog app and you can make your picks to we're going to go to break when we were term. You got some good things about Anthony Davis who made the game winner. We'll discuss when we're back. So Anthony Davis scored the Mavs game winner in their 120 to 118 win over the Hawks after

suffering an eyelid injury earlier in the game. So he had to leave the game. Then he came back shortly after halftime. Clay Thompson said to have a closer and a two way player like Anthony, we all rally around him. We go as he goes. He's obviously our best player. So he did what he was supposed to do that was

Incredible so thoughts on 80s contribution to the Mavs and basically what clay Thompson had to say about his teammate I Think ad is Trying to prove something You know at the end of the day right now the M are the team that's going to be in the play-in Will they get past the plan? I'm not sure but I think ad from what I've seen in that game Uh, he wants to be that person to be like, all right Y'all say I couldn't be that nigga. I just couldn't be that nigga with that nigga meeting lebron james Even though y'all say lebron wanted me to be the man

I'm not sure how that played out because and I'm not talking about on the court off the court either I have no idea how their relationship was it looked really good No, I would see I seen them hanging out together at Barney's pro day average Paul's birthday party. They was are they know they was bosom buddies pause, but it seems like Anthony Davis wants to prove I alright now let me show you how I can beat a man because his numbers the first game he played when he got hurt with Mavericks were up there and he's coming back early when a lot of people are saying don't come back now he's in the game during the clutch and game winning shots it seemed like he wants to be that

dude his quiet is kept people don't notice when Anthony Davis got traded to the Mavericks, he was happy. Believe it or not, Luca wasn't happy. We all see Luca's displeasure, but Anthony Davis actually was happy. He went to the mass. And when I heard that information, I was like, damn, it's that bad in L.A. Maybe it's the media, maybe it's the pressure, maybe I don't't know I did but for him not to be upset about the trade goes to show you're leaving somebody You actually won your first championship with and he pushed you to get there Maybe he says that enough's enough But for him to be out here doing what he's doing and a lot of people say he should sit there until next season I'm gonna give him applause for that. We'll see what happens

So they have to make season. I will give them applause for that. We'll see what happens. Yeah, I think is I think is a beautiful thing to see Anthony Davis play at a high level because we always knew he had the talent. He just had to get in a situation at a work for that talent. And that's what we're watching here in Dallas. Like Killa said previously, he needed to be in a situation where he could be the man,

you know, in L.A. he even though he could say that LeBron told him, hey, it's your team. He was never going to be the man that accolades upon LeBron was just too greater and too strong for him to ever be able to stand before him without him just standing there saying, yeah, I put him there. It's almost like, you know, giving somebody the keys. But then every day they get stopped by other people like, why are you driving? And he got to constantly keep saying, no, no, I gave him the keys.

He's the driver now. He's the driver now. And people like, you sure he's the driver now? And that was never going to work unless they won the championship. So with him going to Dallas, it kind of gives him a clean slate. And for him to paint his own narrative, paint his own, paint the path for his own legacy. And I think that's what he's feeling.

He's finally up to doing. And when you got somebody like Clay Thompson that know the way there to a championship as well as he does, then it becomes comparable. And it seemed just like the camaraderie is different and he's more celebrated in Dallas. So congrats to Anthony Davis. And I hope he keep this up. I think it'll be good for the whole entire Dallas because you get him balling. You get Klay Thompson just getting his reps up, more reps up, more reps up

because Kyrie is not there. They're counting on these people to play in this and to make points. By the time Kyrie comes back, this is a way better team. And who knows, maybe they get the miracle of Cooper flag. They get the miracle of Cooper flag. They get the miracle of Cooper flag. Now, next year, we're having a total different conversation. OK, so the Pelicans announced that Zion and CJ McCullen will miss the rest of the season. And I'm not making this about the Pelicans. OK, they're the 14 seed.

Yes, we're not worried about them. But I want to make this about Zion. Just given his history, kind of what are your expectations for his future? Cause you know, Zion just has such a high caliber. We ain't seeing it. What's going on, Mason? I don't have no expectation.

You, you, you know how you been with somebody that lets you down so much. You just, they're like, but I could do this and we were this. And it's like, I just don't have the expectation. I'm what they call that with a woman. I'm checked out for them. I'm just checked out of the whole Zion sweepstakes. I'm just checked out. He could dunk on people.

I don't know if he wants to. If if the if the buffet is not open. And I like Zion, you know what I'm saying? But I'm just checked out. I'm indifferent right now. He could dunk. He don't have to dunk. He could score 40. And for somebody to say that is like PTSD. somebody to say that is like PTSD. I'm checked out. That was a lot. That was a lot. And that's how it is when you, that's how it is when you disappoint people.

You think they're giving you a lot when really you've given them a lot. False. Right. You ever, you ever met people like that? given them a lot. False. Right? You ever met people like that? They do a lot. And then when you corrected a lot, they act like, well, where's all this coming from? And it's like, bro, you really don't understand what you're doing. Oh, I've totally, I gave you a chance. I gave you time after time.

And you come correct when the time was for the time. Yeah. People don't have a whole life to give you, you know, but killer. What do you think? I mean, you killers checked out to look, watch and see. Go ahead. Killer. Yeah.

Look, I'd be honest with you. I'm been checked out. You know, the problem is this with Zion, is that there's four seasons that he played less than 30 games. And if it was a Sam Bowie situation, Greg Odin situation, players who were picked top two, three, one, two, three, four, five,

especially big men, and they didn't perform well in the NBA like you've seen it like oh this ain't gonna work out oh no no no this ain't gonna work out you'll be like you wouldn't be mad at the Zion situation the problem why people are still talking about Zion is because when he's healthy he's a fucking problem he can score 40 points like murder said he's sitting there doing amazing does he's a four he's a literally a force of nature down there. People are saying he's undersized for his position, but he's like Charles Barkley.

I see him strong on people. Even like last year when they had the chance to go to the playoffs against the Lakers, his last game before he got hurt, he had 40. The kid is really, really, really good when he's not injured. But when is he not injured? That's the problem. And that's why the Zion conversation still comes up repeatedly. Damn, if he was healthy, he may be able to do this. Damn, when he's healthy, he's maybe able to do this. We're not paying attention because time flies. This is six seasons.

This fifth or sixth season. And four of them we play less than 38. So we're not getting even, we're not even, we're not even, this was dinner. We're not even getting the appetizer. We're just getting the bread and butter with the water. The bread is good. It's hot. You know, the butter.

When is the fucking salad of fucking salmon cake coming, let alone the appetizer? I mean, pardon me, but let alone the main course. That's the problem. He's some of the best bread and butter ever at a restaurant and cold water. So if he's available this summer and you're a GM, you would, would you take them? That's the great question, Mason. I have these conversations outside the show with people and it's really hard

because you just don't know when he's available. It's hard, man. And so that's a really great question. And I don't have the answer to that because it's really about this. A couple of things you got to pick up this contract that they signed before and not only that Who are you giving up for him if you're a particular team? Because if you're a certain team I don't know what team who we're talking about But New Orleans is gonna want something decent back at least at least something decent. So that's a great question

I don't have to answer. I'm not sure what I would do. Yeah, I mean, I know we're thinking about this contract, but even if it's a contract in place, right? I don't know if next year I want to bring new people around around this whole idea of Zion, because with him being a person that's that's so inconsistent, it begins to bleed into the structure of what you're going to do with the rest of the players, because no matter who you bring in, he's still going to be Zion.

So people are going to look to him. People are going to come ride with him. And and that's not good if you want to build a better team. Like if you're going to have a Zion there, Zion got to be 100 percent in. You got to be in 100 percent shape because that's how you're going to get the best from him and the best from the rest of that team. Yeah, just thinking about it, like the Pelicans just really have a bad look. Brandon Ingram got hurt, then he gets traded.

They got Murray who comes in hurt, then he gets traded. They got Murray, who comes in from Atlanta. He gets hurt. There's no consistency with players not getting injured over there. I mean, with players getting, you know, pardon me, but that's the wrong phrase I'm saying. The consistency of injuries, I should say,

with players or the Pelicans is out fucking rages. It's a really bad luck that they're having as an organization. Yeah. And hopefully they can figure it out, but they're kind of getting in like a stuck situation to. You know, I, I, I equate all of this back to Chris Paul not going to the Lakers ever since then. It's been downhill for the Hornets that and for the New Orleans. Yeah. OK, so this next conversation, we talked about it before.

Mace, you actually weren't here that one episode, so it's circling, circling back up again. Want to get you guys's thoughts. So reports, alleged reports, got to make that clear are saying Anthony Edwards paid 1.08 million in child support all at once covering 18 years worth of payments. The baby mom, Aisha Howard, shut that rumor down, basically saying that court documents, all that stuff hasn't been finalized. That hasn't went through. There has been no terms that have been agreed upon to that point. So given this whole situation, just for backstory, it was alleged that he didn't want visitation or custody of this newborn that he had with this woman.

So this story keeps coming back. It's not going anywhere. You know, she's making her statements. Of course, Anthony Edwards has not said anything on his end, but given all, you know, the conversation around it, what advice Mace first, would you give somebody in this situation? What is your stance? How do you think this type of thing should be handled? Because obviously he's in the league playing basketball.

She's clearly frustrated on her end. What would be your stance? As a, as a, what would be my stance as a, as a man? Yes. Having a baby with the young lady. Is it, is a hundred percent his baby? Yes. All right.

So now you have a baby. She's also not a young lady. With the young lady. Huh? She's not a young lady, but we'll go with that. All right. What is she? An older lady.

Oh, she's older. Yes. Hey, hey, hey, you know, OK, you did what you did to get where you got to go. Oh, man, I hate when I have to deal with these things because they're so touchy, but let's just look at it for what it is. If you as a man, you have a baby with this young lady. She's not a young lady.

You still have to take care of the responsibility. Right. But the responsibility is not just a financial responsibility because there's an emotional responsibility because that's another young lady that's going to be raised. Right. So if you just put money on it, like to band-aid the situation, then you're then you're allowing another broken young lady to grow up and be out there, you know, twerking, doing everything

else that guys that are dads don't like to see. You know, see young ladies like the Turk, but if you ask your dad how he feels about you, it's you were really. You know, girls, I'm just having my fun. I'm glad that, you know, got low. Because listen, if you if you were to put the camera on guys, when guys are like this on a bat, right? He's like, God, what did I do wrong?

What did I do wrong? She's thinking she's having the time of her life. But back to what you said. Yeah. This is why I got to be present. I went all down that road just to show you Anthony Edwards, you're going to have to figure out how to be present if that's the case, you know? And I know there's other things going on in Atlanta.

There's other things going on with the young ladies present baby daddy. So therefore, there may be some resistance there to be a part of it, because all kind of things that I really got to figure out how to communicate. But this is why it's important not to have a baby before you want to be with a person, because this is what can possibly happen. You can end up with a baby that brightens your day up. It's the most beautiful thing that ever happened to you. And a guy on the other side of it don't want to be no way a part of it,

because he actually wasn't having sex with you to have a family. He just was trying to have fun. And and, you know, if you knew that, can't blame him for it. So on the other end, sorry, Kim, before you go. So say I say I'm a man. Right. And, you know, the girl that I'm messing with gets pregnant. Right. I'm a young man. Yeah. I have the money. I don't want to. I don't want to be president. I don't with gets pregnant. Right. I'm a young man. Yeah. I have the money. I don't want to.

I don't want to be president. I don't want a kid. Yeah. But there is a kid. But. I'm just being in that point of view, like I don't want a child. So then what? That's kind of the root, really. Yeah, that is the rule. But that's what what I'm trying to say is the world doesn't work like that just because you got money.

You just get the opt out of being a dad. The world doesn't work like that. And but there's there is a world where there's a young lady that say, okay, I'm a man long winded with this joint, man, like God, I would give y'allwinded with this joint man like God Give y'all a big keep it moving man focus that you need advice call your dad right there This was seven minutes fuck is y'all talking about? Yo, listen, man. I'm gonna take my TV. I want to continue I'm gonna go take a walk fucking Anthony Davis Offered the pay the first of all I got two questions. Edwards.

Stag you mad rude talking about she's not funny. Anthony Edwards first of all Stag you mad rude saying Mace can't call that lady a young lady. She's younger than Mace and myself so she's not a young lady to us because she's older you. That's mad rude. No in comparison. Mace I got another question.

Yeah. Yeah I'm just saying it's rude because Mace called that young lady. He didn't say Anthony was called a young lady. He said a young lady that was rude. So that's first and foremost, I got a question for you. Yeah. For 15 year old kid pop up right now and you the father, you're walking them into your house when you look at it right now.

A 15 year old kid pops up now. Um, it's not a question of, am I having over is a question of, does my wife want to have a habit or that's, that's what I mean. Anthony, that was me. Have a girl. Yes. So maybe like, what the fuck is going on? What do you mean? He may think you may have a whole nother situation where it's pressure on Anthony. I was to say, get with that, or don't get with that. Because I'm leaving if you're dealing with that for 18 years.

I agree with you 100%. You can't throw money at the problem. And all the people I've talked with are great fathers. They're in their kids life. But it's two things. And I'm not what I'm about to say I'm not supporting it. But at least he's trying to pay.

Some niggas be ducking it. Some niggas don't even wanna pay the child support. Now what this young lady did though, in case you didn't notice, I'm gonna add some more context in this for you real quick. They had the sex or whatever, the baby in Georgia. She moved to LA to have the baby in LA to get LA rights. Anthony Davis said, nah, this baby was in Georgia.

Killer, you remember what I told you about LA? Give me a second. Yeah. He's trying to say, yo, nah, this baby happened in Georgia. Fuck, she moved to LA for. So now that's the dispute. Anthony Edwards is trying to get the baby back in Georgia. Fuck she moved to LA for. So now that's the dispute. Anthony Edwards is trying to get the baby back in Georgia, which I'm not sure.

But from what I heard so far, they said, no, this is a Georgia baby. But yes, makes you absolutely said the child support is cheaper than Georgia. So I just wanted to add some context before you guys kept going on about how you felt because it was things left out. Mason, you gotta keep Georgia business in Georgia, man. But just the fact that she just the fact she did that.

How do you feel about her even doing that? Oh, the move, the move to LA multiplies the money from multiplies the money in like 300% you know, almost 300. No, I agree. I agree with you. But how do you feel about her? Like see, this is what I'm talking about. This is exactly why me personally, I don't.

Yeah, my bad murder. So yeah, so what murder. So yeah, so So what so what I found out is I just got the information just the California judge granted the Anthony Edwards that be under the state of child support in Georgia, but the question like I said I was I'm sorry. I didn't hear because I was getting the information. I Know I feel more hate. Yeah, you know I'm sorry I didn't hear it because I was getting the information. I now I feel more hate. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? But you even try that, you know what I mean? But at the same time, let's put yourself in her shoes. I niggas playing with me. I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to go to Cali and quadruple it because nigga playing games with me. How do you feel about that whole world when I miss what you said? I'm sorry.

Yeah. I think is really, I think is really sad because her, probably her initial feeling is that he doesn't want my child. That's like the, that's like the biggest knife that he probably could have hit her with because you could not want to deal with me, but somebody not wanting to deal with the child evokes like different emotions. So everything at that point is going to be bitter. It's going to be like just the worst of everything because it's not like you're just doing this

to me. You're doing this to this child and this child don't have nothing to do with it because like they tell you any place you had a good time, right? You did? Yeah, you had a good time, right? This is what it now costs you, you know, and it's an old school player move. But, you know, as a young player, he got to take that one. Whatever it is, he definitely got to take that one because he got to support this child. He definitely got to take that one because he got it. He got to support this child.

But ladies, if you're out here having babies with celebrities, you get one, you get one. Just know that you get one. You don't get to get a celebrity baby over here and just pick the celebrities you want babies from. Men don't work like that. You know what I'm saying? Forever. The celebrities you want babies from men don't work like that. You know what I'm saying?

Forever, we will see you as this man's baby. I know ladies tell you, girl, you looking good. You had it on yesterday to guys. We will always see you as such and such girl, such and such baby mother. And killer, am I right? Yeah, absolutely right. 100% Yeah, we talk about it now we have we have no idea. And you was on a roll out and we want to stop you but the absolute the answer your question right? with Portland has a baby with, um, Ingram, baby mother status. If I'm correct, they book, we don't know this girl name. She just stay baby mother.

Yes. We don't. And we don't care about it. Yeah. At all. We, we have no idea what her name is. We just keep saying, yo, niggas got the same baby mother. So basically a hundred to agree agree with you 100 percent.

Yeah. When I when I say we don't care, I'm saying that's how most men feel like away from a camera. If that's the girl that I saw with. Let's just take somebody. Kelsey, that's his girl. He if he was to get her pregnant, he can go on the Taylor Swift, do whatever, whatever. Every man will see that young lady. You will find one anomaly.

And I guess that's what women have to be looking out for. If you put yourself in that position, now you're looking for an anomaly. You're looking for a guy that's one in a billion, one in a million. And God bless you in finding it. You can find it, but it's very seldom. Sorry, sorry, Murda. I agree with you 100%. The only way that you're not in the position Mase talks about for females, if you become

a celebrity to their status or bigger. Because if you do that, then they tend to look back as whatever. And I'm just using the highest, highest level of Kim Kardashian. If they bring up DeRay J. Tate, nobody cares. They don't care because she succeeded his level of stardom. I don't know if Stats old enough to know,

but niggas know Kim Kardashian for having sexual ray j. And then she went on and monopolized that because she has a brilliant mother. They don't give the mother Jenna enough credit on how she markets and and advertises our kids because now the Jenna babies Kylie and them little niggas they up so I'm just saying for you for you to be I watched them come up.

Not even Kardashians, they didn't judge us. They made a whole new joint. Yeah. What I'm saying is if you're a female and yes, celebrity succeeds and your money is well, the nigga that was up at the time, then they'll tend to be like, well, let's just wash this away because we all had to do something in our past. That's what they say. Yeah. Killer. We all had to do something in our past. That's what they say. Yeah, killer.

I agree with most of what you're saying, but Ray J didn't give up a baby, though. He gave up porn tape, though. That's still on the same level. But I was. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. Because the porn tape is just. Once you give them your own like, you know, you this this guy, you carried his baby like.

Most guys would think I don't want to put my my first baby in there. That's that's not my. I get what you're saying. I got I got what you feel what I'm saying. And and then women need to know that, you know, I'm saying so they can make better decisions, they're like, oh, but it was this. Well, then you need to try to work that out because that's your that's your guy. Well, look, Mase, just to be and listen, just play this other side of the equation.

Let's think about this from her point of view, right? Look who are two baby fathers are. You could be hanging out with a homegirl, may have three baby fathers who ain't shit. So don't tell me about mine. Bitch, you over here with with with with with two tone. Yeah, black Tony gun to gun Tommy. Yeah, black Tony to gun Tommy niggas. So crack this third.

I at least should be like, I ain't letting anything not in me. You, if the argument between the friends, you just letting anything not in you. I'm just not letting anything not in me. Depending, depending. That was, usually it has something else. Y'all are completely right. And I know, let me just say,

cause I know people are gonna be like, oh, this is a double standard. Truly is the truth. This segment needs to be called reality check because that's kind of why I posed the question in that way because there's a lot of layers, but y'all said that's what it is. That's how it's viewed.

No matter how you feel about it and what actually happened on the opposite end, that is how it's viewed. And I don't think people are being told the truth. I just wanted y'all to tell it to you. And for the young lady in Portland, we care about her, but we don't... You know what we were saying. I want to make sure people don't take that the wrong way.

I mean, people are going to take the things how they want to take it regardless. But like you said, your truth. At the end of the day, I think we can all agree that we hope that the baby doesn't, you know, have any repercussions or anything like that. Because at the end of the day, this is a living human being. It's a child. We're hoping that that goes well. As far as the two counterpoints. Yeah. You don't have to figure it out. Got to be safe out there.

Yeah. Got to be safe out there. And you got to, and you got to protect your energy. You got to, you got to, you got to pick your man wisely. And that's that. Or men. Or men. Or, to be exact. Yeah.

Great time with y'all always. That is all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. Oh man. Thank y'all for watching and as always, it is what it is. What you want nigga? Everything nigga supersized Two big necks, like when they doing them two for five