IT IS WHAT IT IS - IF LEBRON JAMES WINS A RING WITH THE KNICKS HE'S ABOVE JORDAN | S3 EP.24

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

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What up, man? How you doing? Yo, what's good, man? You enjoyed your birthday? I really had a good time, man. Thanks, Stat. Thank you, Mace, for everything. Dinner, sugar digger. You guys put everything together for me. I had a really good time because I wasn't planning on doing anything.

So planning on not doing anything to the night I had was pretty good. That's good. I had a good time. Thank you again. I can't thank you enough, man. I know you don't, you my nigga, but I know you don't come out like that. So you come in the den and everything. I really appreciate that.

Thank you, bro. Welcome. Welcome. Okay, so we're going to start the top of the show with a comment that Austin Rivers made. What did he say now? He said, I don't want to see Bronny play with LeBron, him getting drafted and playing with his dad. I don't want negativity coming his way.

He doesn't deserve it. He should play somewhere where he can niche out his own identity. Do you agree with his points? I'm going to let Cam go first on that, boss. For real. I'm sorry about that. Austin Rivers needs to shut the fuck up, basically. Like, yo, bro, my nigga.

Because your dad didn't have you at the right time and try to figure it out mathematically so y'all two could be in the NBA together because the age gap probably was too different. Look, if your pops had the opportunity, he's an NBA player, he played for a decent amount of years, you know, he's a former Knick. If he figured out a way, and like I said,

Stat just told us this shit before the show started. I just found this out. If he figured out a way, Doc Rivers, that is, for you and him to be in the NBA at the same time, because you're obviously a former NBA player, still want to be an NBA player. I know you're not getting picked up. He's a former NBA player?

He works at ESPN right now. He doesn't have a job. Oh yeah, I forgot, I forgot. Yeah, this is why he's so talkative and shit. He's not even getting picked up. If Doc Rivers figured out a way for him to be in the NBA with his son,

you think they would not do that? You can't get mad at the opportunity. I think that it may not necessarily be um with lebron i can see what he's saying the negativity a lot of um attention to go and go on brawny that is and it'll be negative for him i see what he's saying but some james niggas might be built for that it was pressure on his his dad. Now I'm not comparing Bronny to LeBron by a fingernail. Not at all. Two totally different players.

But I was saying this to James' family. If you could pull this off, pause, pull it off. I'm not mad at it. It sounds like it's a little bit of hate. He's been very opinionated, Austin, that is. What do you think he could have done better, like as an NBA player or getting up to the NBA? What do you think Austin Rivers could have done better?

No, he had a decent career. Sometimes he might get picked up again before. He was decent. To me, my opinion is during the first part of his career, he was a decent, probably starting point guard, and he came off the bench probably like the last three or four years. I think he's a great backup point guard. Definitely a third option if they're doing 12 players.

I think he's really good. He knows the game. He grew up around basketball. It isn't like he just doesn't have a basketball IQ. Your father is Doc Rivers, so you got a father who played in the NBA, coached in the NBA. up around basketball it isn't like he just doesn't have a basketball IQ your father was Doc is Doc Rivers so you got a father who played in the NBA coached in the NBA when he's in high school you get to be around the Celtics around when they're winning the championship so on and so forth so I think he has a great basketball IQ but what happens is when you're not older like

37 38 39 and you're not in the NBA, through the screen you could see the bitterness. So you're saying all these guys are talking about sports that I used to play. It's almost like listening to a rapper that didn't do well and now he's talking about other rappers. Right, exactly. So the answer to your question is. Nothing he could have done better. I mean, as far as doing better, I think he had a decent career. Answer my question is, answer your question is, think is-

It's not anything he could have done better. I mean, as far as doing better, I think he had a decent career. It's not for everybody to play 15, 20 years, you know? Look, we ought to think about this. Isaiah Thomas played 13 years. Seemed like, because we was young, he played a long time. When you play 11, 12 years,

that's a great career for a NBA player. Dad, how many years Austin played? Right now. What you think about? What you're guessing? Guessing what? How many years Austin played? I gotta guess, we could just find out exactly.

We watched the nigga come in the NBA. I wanna know what it seemed like to you. Oh, what it seemed like? I say nine years. I say eight to nine, eight, nine years, my opinion. And let's find out how old he is. You know, it's a weird dynamic, too. You know, like, he's married to Steph Curry's sister.

It's like some weird, like, the Currys and the Rivers is all, like, entwined through marriage and some wild shit. If he's married to the Currys, he should have a better jump shot than that. And not only that, not only that, the Christmas Thanksgiving dinners as well, cause Seth is still in the league. So if niggas is all, Seth Curry's been so much. His little sister, yeah, he's like,

if you date my little sister. Yeah, like my nigga, you out the league? He should still be in the league. To answer your question, he played 11 years spanning seven franchises. That's probably why I thought eight years. He was a hot potato. He bounced around from team.

Mind you, his dad even traded him too. I can only imagine if you go to the Curry household, they got to be shooting. They got to be shooting, just playing around. Wait a minute. So what team was that? The stat just said his father traded him. Yeah, he said, I'm the only coach that has traded my son and my son-in-law.

So that's also something to look at, too, because Ronnie playing with his dad and then being coached by your dad, but then your dad trading you. That got to be catastrophic. Wow. Yeah, that can be very post-traumatic. your dad trading you. That got to be catastrophic. Wow. Pause. Wow. Yeah, that can be very post-traumatic that your dad traded you.

Like, what do you say when you go home if your dad traded you? Like, for real. Like, let's pause. Roll. Who am I? You're Austin. I'm Austin? Yeah. And you just found out. I'm Austin? Yeah.

And you just found out. I ain't tell it to you. How you doing, son? I'm Austin. Well, you know, at the office today, it wasn't my fault. I don't know what you're talking about. Could you be more specific, Dad? What are you talking about?

You like your new team? You think that's how Doc Rivers tells his son? Like, that nigga? You really think? Let me be Doc Rivers. Okay, okay. You be Doc Rivers. Yeah, I'm be Doc Rivers. Okay, okay. You be Doc Rivers.

I'm be Doc Rivers. Yo. You found out online. Listen, Austin, I did everything I could do. Doc seemed like pretty straightforward. Like I did everything I could do. I talked, what team was this, the Clippers? Yeah.

We talked with, yeah, I talked with the rest of management. What we're gonna do, we're to set you up in a better situation where you're going to get more playing time. Does mom know? You're being emotional. Does mom know? Yes, she knows. Call her right now.

You call her because we don't have time. Because, look, we need to get you on a flight to Chicago because you'll be playing with the Bulls tomorrow. Mom, can you believe dad traded me? You're done with him too? Even mom is done with you. Yeah, y'all off my pension though. All the healthcare and everything else.

So your mother get on your healthcare. You're selfish. Yeah, I'm a winner though, my nigga. I got a championship. What you got? Me. Without me, where would you be? You think Doc's talking to him like that? I don't know if Doc got a little Harlem in him for it.

Yo, the changes, son. It's crazy, Doc. That's wild. I gotta give him some more Harlem points for that. But overall, I just think that Austin, watching him, even when I watch him, I'm like, I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem.

I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I'm gonna give him a little Harlem. I got to give him some more Harlem points for that. But overall, I just think that Austin, watching him,

even when I watch him outside of this conversation, he's really tense when he's talking. He's real uptight tense. He's making faces when other people are talking. LeBron, James, Bronny, if y'all guys have the opportunity to pull something off pause, then nobody else has done more power to you and salute. I seen last year, I think it was four different teams that LeBron played with, played against,

where he played against the kids that were playing father as well. I remember as a kid on Houston, they walked up to him during the middle of the game and said, yo, you know, your first year, you played against my dad. And he's like, wow. So that goes to show the uh

longevity of LeBron James's career man but if you could pull it off more power to him I think it would be super dope to see and I think if anybody's gonna do it LeBron James can so okay moving along Joel Embiid will miss an extended period of time after suffering an injury that will require him to get knee surgery so one do you think the Sixers can remain on top without Embiid? And then does this change your view on the NBA player participation? I don't think that, let me start by saying the Sixers are in big trouble if he doesn't come back fast enough because the Knicks are gaining momentum. As crazy as that sound,

the Knicks are gaining momentum. Shout out to Sin. I heard you tore your Achilles trying to do what I do on the court. And now you got the moon boot working. And now you can get your Wi-Fi from the aliens. Yes. And now you can get your Wi-Fi from the aliens.

I'm back to you, too. Oh, I told that boy don't go out there and play that man. He went out there and did it anyway. But, yeah, the Knicks, I look at the Knicks as taking their spot. They'll probably be the second best team in the East. And that's a lot to say because I know they're still Milwaukee and they're still Boston. But somehow I think the Knicks can pull something off for us. So if Joel Embiid don't get back, it's a curtain for them.

And this will let us know that the process is not going to happen. After this, the process is not going to happen. This is his second time tearing a meniscus in his left knee or having that surgery on the left knee. And I don't think as a big man being paused at seven feet, you're going to keep messing up that knee and still keep it. I don't want to speak it over. I'm praying that you get better, but, you know,

Father Tom and health will play a role if you keep messing up the knee. How old is Joel Abistat? He's young. Yeah, he's in his 20s. That's all. 29. But you can't keep messing up the knee now, not as a sinner. My bad. I don Not as a center. My bad.

I don't give a fuck, to be honest. You don't care about the process? I big gave up on the process. Joe Embiid, when he had that shot to get to me, you like Kawhi, go to Toronto. Step over him. Yeah, go to Toronto. Go there for one year.

Just learn the franchise. You had the opportunity. You had Jimmy Butler that year as well with the Sixers. That was their opportunity to win the NBA championship. And I know it was a bounce around shot and then goes in. But at the end of the day, to me, that was the greatest opportunity that you had because not only that, you play Golden State. Golden State, KD is hurt.

Klay Thompson gets hurt. And I'm not saying that Toronto would have beat with those players playing. They would have not beat Golden State with a healthy KD and a healthy Klay Thompson. But that was their opportunity. The process has been over for me. I wish he does come back. I think he's a great talent, great center, something we'd ever seen.

Nigga just had 70 the other night, and he probably was a little, you know, we come up here and we fuck with the nigga and say, oh, you're not injured, you're not injured, and he's really fucking injured. So you got to think about it. When he has 70 points the other night, he might not have been 100%. We was like saying that oh you capping you just had 70 you just had 70 obviously he wasn't capping but to get 70 and we don't know this but it seemed like he wasn't 100 i think he's a great talent

but we can't keep going 100 i don't know if he's 100 and then he got really hurt that's my take okay i'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm just saying that we don't know for a fact. You could be 100% right, but I'm just saying, let's say he was a little injured and got 70. I just think he's a great talent, but at the end of the day, I'm not going to sit there and wait for the process. You know, I hate when I watch Instagram and niggas be like,

two, three weeks go by, two, three months go by, stay tuned, hashtag, stay tuned, stay tuned, stay tuned, stay tuned. Nigga, you know how much content is out there? Nobody stay in tune for what you keep telling us to stay tuned to, bro. So I wish him well. I hope he does come back. But you're absolutely right.

Without Joel Embiid, the Sixers could forget about this year. And now it's a catch-22 because let's say he does come back. But you're absolutely right. Without Joel Embiid, the Sixers could forget about this year. And now it's a catch-22 because let's say he does come back for the playoffs if the Sixers can make it, hold on and sustain and make it to the playoffs. And you're saying, do I want to put my franchise player in this position to try and wheel us to a championship knowing he's just coming back? Do you shut him down for the season, or do you let him come back for the playoffs? If he could come back for the second round of the playoffs, if it's second round, if it's not first round, I'd leave him out.

Gotcha. That's a tough decision for me as a GM. As you get to the second round, everybody's playing better. Everybody's playing at a different level. Everybody's zoomed in on championships. So at that time, they're moving a little bit different than first round. Right. Tough decision, man.

I'm glad I'm not in that position because if he tells you, I'm ready to go and you're in a good position for us to make a run. Yeah, I think by the time he comes back, they might lose home court, though. That don't make no sense. Whatever it is, I think I would shut him down until next season because, like you said, he has multiple injuries over

the years and this year franchise player. Back to, not just the Knicks. Another sleeper team is because the Knicks are always getting everybody hyped. I'm not going to say they're the hype train that the Dallas Cowboys are, but New Yorkers are delusional when it comes to the Knicks. Very delusional.

One man, Nick, he's a Knicks fan. I see him. He say, yeah, we are. You know, niggas start saying crazy.. You seen Brunson at 40, right? I said Tyrese Maxey had 50 that night. Yeah, but it wasn't the 40 that Brunson had. I'm like, yo. Mathematically.

The 40 that Brunson had. Mathematically, I think 50. When the nigga had 50 on him. Yeah, I'm like. It was crazy. No, they didn't play against each other just that night. Maxey had 50 points the same night. But I think the Knicks, I agree with you.

Something special is going on right now in New York. I think that Brunson brought that there. I don't think, as much as I like Julius Randolph, I think he's a great player, I don't think he's a number one option. I don't even know if he's a number one option. I don't even know if he's a number two option. Julius Randle at a number three option would be stupendous for the Knicks. Now, I don't know who their number two option would be.

That's what they probably need to figure out. If the Knicks had a great number two option and could move Julius Randle to the third option, then I would elevate them to the second spot that you're talking about. But I can't put them ahead of Boston or Milwaukee at this particular time. And then also, I'm not sure if I want to put them ahead of Cleveland. Now, do I want the Knicks to do good?

Of course. I'm a New Yorker. They always like Cam Macy. It don't sound like you want the Knicks to do well. I mean, I don't really care if they do well or not because at the end of the day, I'm not going to be depressed. I'm not going to go have high blood pressure. Building myself up year after year after year

to hope that we win and we don't win. Our players safe are from Harlem. My team is the Harlem Globetrotters. We don't lose. With 2019 and one, We never lost the game. That's my team. So what if LeBron goes to the Knicks with this team they got now?

Rich Paul cleared it up. He said it won't happen, so I'm not even going to imagine it. When they started talking that shit the other day, when they was like, oh, LeBron. Yeah, that looked crazy. Rich Paul jumped right on,

hit the nigga Woj and said, that's not happening. So I don't know why they're even speculating all that. So I'm not even going to do an imaginary scenario when it's already been shut down. They didn't even let that shit linger. That shit was out for about, that shit came out 2 p.m. in the afternoon. It was shut down by 2.19 p.m., so it ain't going to happen.

But that's the shit that Nick Trans go crazy about. Yo, if we had Braun. Yo, if we had Braun, it'd be crazy, right? They almost got me involved. Like, it's crazy. You keep, Braun sent you. You start thinking like that, start going. They'll win it all.

He might be gold, he get a chip in New York, though. No, but that's a might be gold. He get a chip in New York, though. No, but that's a fact, too. He get a chip in New York. LeBron, you get a chip in New York, you be gold. I ain't going to hold you. I ain't going to hold you. That may put him above Mike. I ain't going to hold you.

That'll put you above Mike. I'm going to be honest with you. That's the one to put him above Mike. If he goes to New York, see, this is what happens. We start bucking up. We start bucking up. I don't know what Rich Paul talking about. You wanna cut the joint conversation forever?

Go to New York and get a championship with that team and LeBron. That's a fact. He is getting, it is no conversation, none. That's a fact, that's 100 a fact. He is getting, there's no conversation, none. That's a fact. That's 100% a fact. You go to New York and deliver a championship in New York City. In the Mecca.

Which haven't had a championship in the real, not figuratively. Yeah. The real 50 years. Yeah. Not figuratively. Literally 51 years the Knicks have not won a championship. So that means you delivering Cleveland, which I don't know, I think Jim Brown and them Knicks was the last ones who won a championship

in Cleveland. You go to Miami. Miami's like, okay, everybody was there. You go to L.A. The reason why L.A. was dope to me too because it's a lot of pressure and people try to put an asterisk next to the bubble championship. I say I don't do that because, to me, that's straight basketball. There's no fans.

It's AAU almost at the NBA level. But it's a lot of pressure going to the Lakers because you got to think who you're coming behind points. You got to be compared to Kareem. You got to be compared to Magic, James Worthy, Byron Scott, Shaquille O'Neal. Yeah, he won't get that in L.A. I don't care what he does.

He won't get that in L.A. I don't care what he does. He won't get that in L.A. But he won a championship. The reason I'm bringing that up is because you delivered a championship. So what you're saying is now you got New Yorkers. Yeah, you go to New York. Brian, you don't got to talk to nobody about nothing. Seal the deal. He feel like that now.

Nah, he still got to talk to them. I'm just telling you how he feel. He now nah he still gotta talk to them I'm just telling you how he feel but he can feel that way he can feel that way he definitely can feel that way but there's niggas behind your back like but if you do this pause they can stop all of that that's a fact

I agree with that I don't know if it's gonna happen but that's a great point. You go to New York and get a championship for the Knicks, you pass Michael. Without the niggas that's whispering, Mase is talking about. I'm one of them niggas, you know. I'm one of them niggas, I ain't gonna lie.

Shaq is one of those niggas. I'll tell you who all those niggas are. Yeah, there's a lot of niggas like you. And Stephen A is one of those niggas. I'll tell you who all those niggas are. Yeah, there's a lot of niggas like that. And Stephen A is one of them niggas. If you get a chip in New York, niggas have to change their tune. You already hear it. It is what it is.

Okay, so before we move on to the next question, I kind of want to get you guys' views on the NBA player participation policy. Now that Joel Embiid actually is injured, does that change how you feel about it? Because a lot of people are debating whether they feel like Joel Embiid should have played in that game against the Warriors because that's the whole reason that he got hurt or if he should have just sat out. Do you think that should still remain or do you feel like he should have played against the Warriors? So when he played against the Warriors and Jonathan Kaminga fell on him,

that is why he's injured now. So a lot of people are debating. Joel Embiid should have never played in that game to begin with, but they feel like he played to hit that mark to get the NBA player participation rule. So he could be up for awards. So has your views changed on it or you know, you got it.

Cam said it best. The best ability is availability. Like, if you're not available, we got to stop with all of this stuff about people are great players if you're only great for a small amount of time. Like, if everybody is just like a nigga come in, pause, and we play eight fulls, and somebody come in on the last game and like, yo, I was cooking them. It's our eighth game.

It's your first game, you know? So you super am, you charged up and everybody else is tired. That's what they was talking about last night. And that's what it's like when people are taking all of this rest. You're playing against people that are on like playoff time,

and you're just, this is your 30th game. Yeah, look, you're hurt, you're hurt. And what happens is, let's say for instance, you know, they say he played that game so he don't miss a bunch of games and he wouldn't be eligible for MVP or first team NBA, all that, whatever. If you miss 35 games, say this rule wasn't in place, and you miss 30 games anyway, should you be winning the MVP or should you be first team All-NBA, second or third team? If you miss a chunk of games, you shouldn't be eligible for those awards anyway opposed

to guys, let's say you sit there and play 50 games and somebody plays 72 games but you get the MVP because you made a greater impact in the 50 games but this guy was able to play 90-95% of the season. I like the rule to be totally honest

with you. If you miss a certain amount of games, as much as people like you, as much as people fuck with you, you shouldn't be eligible to play. And this is what happens when people was crying wolf all these years for load management. Oh, nah, I'm taking a rest day.

I'm doing this day. This is why this rule got in place. So now when niggas really get hurt, it seemed like, oh, the NBA forced me to do it so I can make first team all NBA. Nah, that's the niggas before y'all crying wolf. When they wasn't hurting, now when y'all really hurt, y'all going to be the one that suffer for it.

I'm not mad at the rule. And they could fix a lot of these injuries, like if you really pay attention to it. Before niggas started wearing low tops, niggas wasn't getting hurt this much. Yes, they're not on some tennis sneakers today. So wow. Yeah.

Yeah. So wow. So you can say, yo, what are you wearing? Your niggas said that before you got caught. Right. They can say, yo, what are you wearing, bro? And that's what fucked them up today. I ain't gonna hold you.

Yeah. Cause your ankle bone, your knee bone, that's all, you know, your leg is all connected. So one thing go the wrong way, that's what's getting niggas hurt, and they don't realize you trying to look cute is getting you hurt. Possibly. Niggas wasn't getting hurt this much, and the rules are even easier now. You can't even foul niggas like you used to be able to foul. This is true.

Answer the question, I'm not mad at the rule. You came in foul niggas like you used to be able to foul. This is true. Answer the question, I'm not mad at the rule. That's, play the games if you want the awards. And if you hurt, you're hurt. Try again next year. Yeah. I agree with both of you guys' points. I definitely wanted you guys' perspective because that's like a running debate.

You should never play, but honestly, yes, the best availability. Red shirt, purple shirt. Yeah. Now you purple shirtin'. Yeah, look, if you're playing, availability. Red shirt, purple shirt. Yeah. Now you purple shirt. Yeah. Look, if you're playing, if you know you hurt or possibly be hurt, nigga, talking about Joel Embiid, don't play.

Now nigga like, oh, I got to win the MVP. I'm going to risk it. Now you're out. Yeah. Out, nigga. So I dig it. Niggas want their accolades and their awards and everything else. But if it's going to cost you time, money, and your team possibly getting to NBA finals,

you took that chance. Okay. A medical biller has been sentenced to 12 years in federal prison after being convicted in an insurance fraud scheme that involved posing as NBA player Marcus Smart. He called pretending to be an outraged patient or policyholder who was facing a huge bill and demanding that the insurer pay up. So thoughts on the whole case itself and posing as Marcus Smart out of all people.

Nigga filed for that. He filed for that. Imagine you get off the plane, you're going somewhere, and somebody just, the cops are waiting for you when you walk off the plane, you're going somewhere, and somebody just, the cops are waiting for you when you walk off the plane, and they think you somebody else. Niggas already ran with your name. And people, this could have went a lot of ways. So this is just foul, especially if you're a medical biller.

This is a person supposed to be trusted with private records and all that. This is crazy i don't really know about uh too much about this i read it when i knew that we were going to be talking about it but it isn't even just about claiming money you know how much niggas is claiming niggas identity period like every day it's the niggas that work so hard to steal your money That you work for and a lot of it is just because we're in a digital era The same nigga we talking about my man since city He he will not get cash out. He doesn't have cell. He doesn't have any money There's a Apple pay if somebody needs money from him, they got to go to the who? Western Union.

That's what he said yesterday. He said, if your kids need money, it would mean more if you fly back and give it to them. From wherever you at. What if he's going to the movies? He said it would mean more. He's going to miss the movie. Just sell the money.

Exactly. But this is the type of shit he would have a field day with. Yeah. See what I'm talking about? They're scamming. Now they're using Marcus Smart name, so on and so forth. What I would say to about, and like I said, I don't want to get too in detail about this story

because I don't have all the facts, just what I read, but just be a scam, period. Check on your shit every day. Check online if you're doing online banking. Make sure your account, you have it by phone. You go on Instagram a hundred, or Twitter or Snapchat or TikTok

a hundred times a day. Look in your bank account three, four times a day to make sure that everything is just right and not a problem because that's your money. As much as you can be on these social sites, you can check on your money at the same time. And for those people like my man Sin City, what I'm going to tell you is this.

I'm not saying cash is going anywhere today or tomorrow, but what they're trying to do is make it obsolete now will we be alive to see that i'm not sure if we will be but that's what they're trying to move the needle towards i like cash personally i like having the opportunity to have cash in my pocket and i like having credit cards as well but check on y'all shit nigga because when y'all niggas slide a credit card into the machine at the gas station or when you check into a hotel or when you go to a dinner to a restaurant once it goes in the terminal or leaves your hands to be totally honest we really don't know

what happens after that so that's that that's crazy was thinking, did he get away with hundreds of millions at first? I think so because he was just running the medical billing companies and then he got doctors scheduling different surgeries. And he only got 12 years? People be into the wrong crimes. Yeah. You know, I say that all the time, bro. Nigga go out here and stick up a grocery store

and get eight years. And somebody- And not that they should do any of the crime, but we saying with mathematics, the math ain't math. Right, and then you sit here and have a white-collar, blue-collar crime and steal some old people's money for $25 million and get 18 months. Yeah.

And pay a fine and got $3 million of it sitting somewhere they didn't find. Right. Pick your crimes wisely. Advice of the day. All right, y'all. In response to Ben Simmons being booed by sixers fans he said it's funny to me i got grown men pissed off and yelling at me it's not that deep it's sports but it comes with it so i enjoy it what do you have to say about his comments ben is the cowboys to

me from now on pause for real ben simmons is the cowboys to me killer i'm not talking about him no more i'm serious i don't care what he does i'm not playing into it that's a great comparison this is the cowboys to. I'm not talking about it. Y'all going to have to just count me out. That's a great one. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I have to agree with Mace because it's been just a little much too much Ben Simmons going on the last week or so. And it's for nothing.

It's for nothing. It's not like he's, I'm going to stick with my oaf, yo. I'm not talking about you, man. No. Where you going is right. We're talking about everything. One time we did talk about him

is because he made a comeback and he had almost a triple-double. But everything outside of that is not basketball related. You're 100% right. It has nothing to do with basketball whatsoever. We're talking about what he's dressed like.

We're talking about he has grown man-to-man. Look, at the end of the day, I don't know if Ben is really hurt or mentally not want to play or whatever, but think about it on the opposite side. If he's trolling niggas in real life, it's even crazier. I think he's trolling us. At this point, he's trolling niggas in real life it's even crazier like he might he's trolling us at this point he's trolling us he might really be trolling niggas like look i got grown men crying i know he was in philly we're used to playing all that but i think that's for everybody

who says something about him so you know a person can't play in there like aha i got these niggas mad but he can't play so that's his part and his contribution to the team to get other niggas mad. He's actually supposed to be the number one player. Yes, absolutely. That's why it doesn't work, Ben. You got to play. Right. You got to think about this.

Let's say, and I'm not disrespecting Mikael Bridges or anybody else on the Brooklyn Nets. But if this was six years ago or however long ago when he first got in the NBA, he was supposed to be the best player on that team. Like, he's supposed to be the very best player on the Nets right now. Even when they just thought about it when he got over there, it was like, okay, this is all right, KD. All right.

But Ben, they said, look, Philly was rough. It ended poorly. He needs a fresh start. So when he gets to the Nets and you got Kevin Durant there as well, you're like, oh, this might go. Kyrie Irving, oh, this might be lit. And then it never goes, and it's still not going. So they say he's not an NBA player anymore.

Yeah, it's – not going. So they say he's not an NBA player anymore. Yeah, he's a nigga band, man. Nigga started after four years he was going to catch LeBron. This is true. This is true. This is horrible. This is horrible. This is horrible. You know, and we talk about agents and their management or people representation.

And this is where I kind of got to give Rich Paul no favoritism or anything else. You got to think about this, right? This man got him an extension of $130 million and can't shoot a jump shot. Like not even a little bit. You can't go to the basket, nothing. It's phenomenal that you get 130 million because now what you got to think about this is Mase,

what team would want him after his contract is up? That's what I'm saying, he playing around. Yeah. This thing is playing around. Yeah, what team you want you and they not only want you, how much are they willing to give you? They can't spend a bag on you. They may get you because you light-skinned and

6'10 at this point. May have nothing to do with basketball. And if you're tall, it's actually easier to shoot. A layup? Absolutely. You can't even do that. If you're, what team do you see, let's say, I don't know his contract, but let's say his contract is up at the end of the season.

I'm not saying it is. If you're the next, do you want to keep him? If you don't want to keep him, where does he go? To the Auckland Razorbacks. Australia. Or New Zealand, one of them teams teams gotcha they would love to have them yeah that's where he's from send him back home back home oh no we'll see what's next for ben simmons y'all i don't really know what's going on him either all right we're gonna go

to break when we return we will talk about Tony Snell. Poor years of counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening to me won't fall, oh, oh Dealing with this thing called trust But she ain't really thinking about. She wanna be free. Why am I in this one? She wanna be free. Hell, I don't wanna see her walk away. I wish somebody told me the rules. Disagreements let her win, then it's cool.

Even when I'm right, this ain't about you. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Pacers will play the Rockets. Underdog fantasy has Tyrese Halliburton at 13.5 points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Higher. 13.5 points.

Who are they playing? The Rockets. They're higher. Okay. Pascal Siakam is at four assists. Do you have him higher or lower? Can't. Lower.

Lower. Okay. And Dylan Brooks is at three and a half first quarter points. Do you have him higher or lower? Mace. Higher. Dylan Brooks is back. Go higher, too. Okay. mates hi dylan brooks is back go higher too okay download the underdog fantasy app and you can make

your picks too so y'all it seems like people are starting to not feel as bad for tony snell anymore this is the nba player we talked about who was trying to get retirement benefits but people saw his wife's tiktok account and she has some tiktoks posted 12 birkins one jets videos of her chilling in dubai and spending a lot of money on luxury items and it just didn't rub people the right way so do you guys think this is a valid reason for people to not want to support him anymore reaching that deadline which has now passed. Yo. Yo, this. I don't know if it's a black thing that people cannot support you if you're doing well.

Huh? Yeah, I think so. That's why I started laughing, because somebody, different cultures of people, they'll be doing very well. They'll have a brunch and people just donate millions of dollars. But if you show up with something nice and you try to get donations from black people, it's just not going to happen. You know, what you say, when you started this off,

this is a great point. And because you're a reverend, a pastor, I used to think like that. And I would choose this in general. Like, yo, you're supposed to support God. Why do you have something nice? Then you get older, you'd be like, why can't somebody who supports God have a chain,

have a watch, have some money? I don't understand. You know, you get older and you realize that. You're like, yo, why can't they have something nice too? Because they're into church that they're not allowed to drive a six-figure car or they're not allowed to have a six-digit watch or not allowed to have a mansion because they're into the church. So that means when you're into the church,

you're not supposed to be able to have nice things. Nah, I don't get it either. So I'm glad you brought that up. Nah, seriously, because it's like when you think about it, you're like, when you get older, you're like, that don't even make no sense. The dumbest of people should have the nicest shit. Yeah, that sounds dumb, actually, when you think about it.

Because a person makes some money, and they can be like, oh, that nigga sold his soul to the devil, right? Right, right. But then it's like a person would say, God is better than the devil. So if God is better than the devil, you should have more of you with God.

Right, 100%. To your point. Yeah, absolutely. But this scenario, too, I don't know her. and it's just a unique situation because it's like, imagine their conversation, the mother and the husband and wife. You see what I'm out here trying to do.

You're posting these Birkins. Why would you do that now? 12 Birkins? Yo, listen. I think actually the 12 Birkins is overkill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On a private jet. You're trying to raise the money.

And she's like, can anyone beat this or I won? Oh, see, this is good. I ain't going to get you the money and I'll go to church. Yeah. You can't be that. You can't do that. You can't be that. You can't do that. You can't be that proud. You can't be prideful trying to get something from humility.

That's crazy. Yeah, but that's a great point. So it's like, yo, this is, but see, but then he may be like, see what I'm dealing with at home? This is what I'm doing. This is why I need to help. This is why I need to help. I didn't know what I was dealing with at home. This is what I'm doing. This is why I need the help. This is why I need the help. I didn't know what I was getting myself into.

So that's why I said it's a catch-22 because you got to think about this. She's not going to practice. She's not going to play these games. She's not working hard to get back into the NBA. And I don't know what she does for a living outside of being his wife. She may have her own business and mine's her own

and so on and so forth. I have no idea what she does. But if this is all just being a housewife, then goddamn, now the problem is, it's bigger than you and the Birkin's boo, the kids need health insurance for the rest of their life.

Kids need health insurance and you got the Birkin. Yeah, and you got the Birkin's on the jet. How much is a Birkin? A lot. Like how much? Just approximately. This could go up to the hundreds. So she got 12 of them?

At least. 12 on a private jet. This is how a poor nigga thinks. If she got 12 of them, that's your health care right there. Yeah, that's exactly what a nigga would say. That's your health care right there. Yeah, that's exactly what a nigga would say. That's your health care right there. Yeah, exactly. Who come first, your Birkins or the kids?

This may be a listen. That's what they would tell you in counseling. They would tell you you got your priorities out of order. And I'm not saying this against her. That would go for any person. This would be an interesting story because I don't know much about her or him at all. But when we was talking about the story the other day about we really wanted

him to get a job, so it was bigger than him, I was looking at the story overall. I read a lot about it. And we was talking about how his kids had autism. Yeah. And later in life, he found out, not until he was grown, that he had

a form of it as well. I'm not saying he's not a high-functional person. He probably has a high-functional autism. Like I was talking about Hasbro, because I don't know if that's what he has or not, but that's a high-functional form of autism. Like I was talking about Hasbro, because I don't know if that's what he has or not, but that's a high functional form of autism. And when they read it, when I was reading it, it's like, even when I met my wife, I was at a party for the players and I was just sitting in the corner by myself. I didn't know how to socialize with people.

I'm socially awkward, so I didn't know how to mingle with people. I just sitting in the corner by myself. I didn't know how to socialize with people. I'm socially awkward, so I didn't know how to mingle with people. I just sat in the corner by myself, and my wife came over to me and said, you an NBA player? Are you sitting in this corner? You're not the life of the party? That's what she said to him? Yeah. The first day she met him, the nigga's like, yeah.

And the nigga's like. Got one. Swell Burkett. She texted her, Swell Burkett. And a Jack girl when you play it right. For real, though. That don't see it. I don't know, But we talking about it.

How much you make? Look, I had a friend of mine write a record label. You know this lady, too. You introduced me to her when I was trying to get my record deal years ago. And she was high executive in the music business. She was signing people. She was getting people deals. I'm not going to say her name.

Giving people deals, and she held a lot of weight. Her name held a lot of weight. And so when Mase got his record deal, and it was my turn to get hot in the street, and everybody wanted to give me a record deal, I was basically using every record company to get what I could get before I made a decision. And this female, she looked out.

She was cool. I ended up not doing a deal with her, but she was cool. But I remember her coming to me, and she had money. She was A&R. She had cribs, cars, et cetera. But I remember she was like, yo, Cam, you used to play ball, right? Yeah, I've been finding out. You know Chris Chiles? I said, nah, I don to play ball, right? Yeah, I've been finding out. You know Chris Chiles?

I said, nah, I don't know Chris Chiles. He said, oh, he just got 24 million. We negotiated with the next one trying to pull up on that nigga. Word to blood, yo, word to everything I love, yo. So I'm sitting there like. You got all this already. Enough's not enough. That's the rule.

That's the rule. One of the rules of power. You got to play a sucker to catch a sucker. Right. So I thought she had everything in the world, but she still needed some of Chris Child's money. She knew how much he renegotiated for as well. Right. People are mad.

Ex-ESPN analyst David Pollak tweeted a meme with the sign, End Wokeness. And they're upset that he posted it on the first day of Black History Month. Do y'all find anything wrong with what he said? What did the sign say again? End Wokeness. End? Like the letter end say again end wokeness in like the letter in like end wokeness that all that shit yeah and there's a quote i can read it if y'all yeah go ahead

make sense to me he said wokeism is a demonic ideology intended to replace god's truth with the lies of the world wokeness ends through a great awakening, not by might nor by power, but by my spirit. The black people, it sound like you being racist. Point blank. Yeah, like, yo, you can put all that shit there. The black people just sound like, yo, it's racist. Yeah, MAGA hat.

Yeah, then you do this shit on the first day of Black History Month. Niggas don't really want to hear all that philosophy shit you got going on. Fuck you mean stop being woke. Now you want us to be stupid. That's how niggas going to take it. You want me to be asleep? Yeah, you want me to be asleep? Fuck is you talking about?

And wokeness. Nah, nigga, we lit. We started getting lit when niggas started getting woke. Niggas started acting crazy. So when I say crazy, not bad, but I'm talking about that spite. Yeah, people started standing up to everything when that wokeness came. Yeah, because you had the George Floyd situation, then niggas went wild and started bugging out over that around the country to where all these corporations want to donate millions and millions of dollars

to the urban community, quote unquote. And then you had the pandemic where the niggas just lost it. Yeah. It seemed like, and listen, I'm old enough to know. I've been around, I'm not saying I'm like fucking 100, but I've been around, and I like it because I've been to good eras. I've seen the crack era, and when I say that, I got to see it to where I knew I never want to do no shit like that.

And then you got the 90s with R&B. The reason I'm bringing this up is because I've seen all the mad different eras, and to be honest, during the pandemic, for about a year and a half, I would say to me, it seemed like it was our country. Yeah, I could've walked off on that. It seemed like you expound. This is like you need another best friend that's as ignorant as that.

Expound. Yo, it seemed like we was running shit for a minute. We like. Yeah, we had niggas under pressure. Oh, police scared? What? You know, niggas like. Defund the police?

Yeah, yo, fam. That's when niggas start going crazy. They say, wait a. Defund the police? Yeah, yo, fam. That's when niggas start going crazy. That's it, wait a minute now. That's a fact, yo, fam. Niggas doing interviews, black niggas walking up, snatching the mic. Yo, fuck that Floyd, nigga. Niggas acting crazy, yo.

It was crazy. I'm like, oh, we running this shit right now. I remember I was driving through Harlem and these niggas was acting crazy. 132nd and 7th. You know, it's like Lorraine. Shout out to my nigga MK and everybody over there, Lorraine's. But it's like four or five clubs there.

That's like from 3 to 4 a.m. It's just lit over there. Yeah. And they cops want people to leave. I got this shit on video. And they said, shut the fuck up. They had like 10 police cars. They throwing bottles and all that.

They're like, we're not going nowhere. And the police just backed up and let them do whatever the fuck they wanted to do. And I'm like, wow. Oh, so I get what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. It was like, man, just go ahead. And I promise you, during the pandemic. Niggas were selling TVs, Richard Mills, everything.

Lamborghinis outside the projects. All type of shit. Like yo, niggas had money. It was crazy. It was wild. It looked like we ran shit for a little minute. Like, listen, I promise you, Murda, I'm like, yo, after I seen them do that shit on 7th Avenue, if I ran every red light during the pandemic, I didn't stop at no red lights,

at least in New York City. I'm like, I'm like, y'all niggas, I let these niggas just run y'all niggas down the block? Oh, nah, I wish y'all would try to pull me over. I'm not stopping. That little 12, 18 months, it looked like it was ours for a minute. So now a nigga telling us don't stay woke. Yeah, yeah.

In wokeness. Yeah, yeah, in wokeness. Niggas like, nah, we trying to bring it back to where it was at a couple years ago. I think it's bad timing. Nobody want to hear what your philosophy is about it, bro. Just my opinion. All that just sounds extra at that point to all of us.

Right. Okay. Rudy Gobert went viral for a remark he had regarding his future Hall of Fame speech. He said, at my Hall of Fame speech, I'll be able to joke about how many times I got to enjoy some extra vacation because I got snubbed for the All-Star game. So what was you guys' initial reaction to his statement?

That's a good way to make light of it. Just say that this is going to be a part of your Hall of Fame speech. That's a big statement. Basically saying he automatically going to the Hall of Fame, you say? Yeah, that's basically what he said. That is what he said. And I think it's some kind of like truth to some of what he said, that he did get snubbed,

even though I can't think of who you would take off the team to put him on there. Normally when your team is doing that good, and they've been number one for a while, probably not still number one, but they've been number one so long that three players from a team is supposed to be on that all-star team.

That's just common courtesy. Yeah, Mason's right about that um i don't fuck with that nigga he got covid running rampant in the nba man with that all that touching niggas thinking it's a joke touching the microphones nigga for at least might have put niggas in a bubble one nigga i know it started getting global but you really start that shit in the nba We gave it to Donovan Mitchell. That's kind of what broke up y'all chemistry in Utah because y'all got this man sick. And this man had an attitude because he's like,

yo, you playing games now. I remember looking at an interview not even that long ago, maybe a month ago, Donovan Mitchell was like, yo, nobody really knew what was going on with COVID. I had to sit in the basement and not speak to nobody because niggas thought, you know, in other words, I had the cooties. You know what I'm saying?

But you was killing niggas. Yeah, so at the end of the day. A lot of people did die from COVID. Absolutely. A couple friends of mine. So if he's playing around, definitely. I ain't forget it. Yeah, that's why I brought it up.

But as far as all-star snubs and so on and so forth, I think, to be totally honest with you, Rudy Gobert, is I think you have a decent career. I think it's, you know, it isn't Shaq. It isn't Kim Olajuwon. It isn't Joel Embiid. It isn't the Joker. I think you have a decent career.

But I think, me me personally people are remembering you more from the covid shit than the basketball that's what i just said you know i'm saying so let's let's worry about that let's worry about you out playing covid uh to a certain degree when i say i'll play cove i may be putting it in the wrong phrase, but I'm trying to say be remembered for something different. And if you was joking, and if your jokes led to the NBA almost being canceled due to COVID, why are you still joking about the Hall of Fame? Pick a new way, a new approach. Make a donation.

They always help me. Amen. Make a donation. They always help me. Amen. Yo, Kim is a pastor now. Yo, Kim said, yo, you ain't got no problem with you, young man. Just make a donation. Make a donation, nigga.

And then last topic before we wrap, Adam Silver is finalizing an extension to remain as commissioner for the NBA for several more years. It could go up to 2030. What do you guys, like, how do you guys feel about Adam Silver as commissioner? Do you like him or no? Before I get into that that i don't remember maybe i wasn't paying attention that they were reinstating david stern but it seemed like that

term is coming along uh pretty frequently and i think he i think he's doing well with this start saying david stern what do you mean? David Stern was the commissioner before Adam Silver. Right. But I don't remember him having to be reinstated. Got what you said. Okay, gotcha. I just thought he was

the commissioner. Until further notice. Until further notice. Right, gotcha. It seemed like this one is like every couple years, let's see if we're going to extend his time.

David Stern was moving like Trump. Yeah. I'm here. I'm here to get some notice. Yeah, Niggas is doing the drive. You ain't even wanna get drafted if Stern not up there with a hat for you.

I remember Stern, God bless the day, Kobe won the All-Star MVP and David Stern was presenting with the trophy. Kobe had the trophy right here. David Stern said, above your head. I said, above your head. Thank you. Stern was like the mob.

Yeah, the mob. And he was like really laughing about it. That's the truth. Exactly. But I do like Adam Silver. He's actually brought a lot of interesting things to the NBA and great things that I thought would never come to the NBA. So I think he's doing an exceptional job. I agree with Mase.

I think Adam Silver is great for the NBA. You got people who may say differently, but I would say about 70% to 80% minimum, that is, people like Adam Silver. Not only that, he's a player's commissioner. When the guy from the Clippers said the racist shit about Magic Johnson and it was a big deal, he made about two days to say he's not just suspended. You're out the league.

Yeah, you sell your team. You're out the league. You're out of here. When emails started floating around about the Phoenix owner, look, we're going to give you some time, but you're out the league. You understand what I'm saying? Listen, Draymond says he's going to retire from the game. Oh, Draymond's a commodity.

Let's do that. I don't know. This is my little bit of input. Let's do the analytics. Oh, J-Mon's a commodity, let's do that. I don't know this mop, little bit of input. Let's do the analytics. Oh, he's selling tickets. Oh, he buzzed it. J-Mon, you're not retiring. You can't retire.

You're not. I still got your name, J-Mon. Yeah, you good. Listen, we gonna get you back in there, but you been wildin'. Don't let me. Yeah, you been wildin', it's indefinite. Yeah, but just chill out, I got you though.

So I think that he sees the climate of what's going on and the NBA handles it accordingly. And I like him a lot. Even like this thing right here that just passed the end season tournament. That could have been risky. Yeah. And you know, I could have been real risky,

but to me it was successful. He taking chances. Even what he did with job. Like the first time job wild out, he could have banned him. Then he was like, nah, we're going to give him another shot.

I spoke to him. We good. Right. And then he did it again. So he was like, it's not on me. Right, exactly. And that's a great point. Nigga said, yo, I'm going to pull up on you, suck a hollet.

He said, we spoke. Yeah, we spoke. Yo, he good. We good. He good, exactly. He said he's not going to do it again. I'm going to take his word. Yes, that's another thing.

Like, yo, nigga said he does the same thing. Yo, Kyrie, where you at? Let me pull up on you real quick. I got to let niggas know. Kyrie is not racist. The furthest thing he is from racist. I just spoke to him personally. He is not racist.

So I think he's that type of commissioner to where the players fuck with him and he's moving the needle, man. So I'm happy for that. Yeah, and shout out to Kyrie and his new sneaker out there. Shout out to Kyrie. Yeah. So in addition to all those things Adam Silver has done, the NBA's revenues have also nearly tripled.

So he's helping the players. The NBA's making a lot of money, and he's implemented a lot of things that we haven tripled. So he's helping the players. NBA is making a lot of money and he's implemented a lot of things that we haven't seen. So shout out to Adam Silver. But that's all the time that we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.