IT IS WHAT IT IS - IS DRAYMOND GREEN BEING TARGETED AND PAUL PIERCE HAS INTERESTING COMMENTS ON WHITE WOMEN

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, Maurice Clarett joins the show to talk about game two between the Wolves and Warriors, the series heads back to the BAY tied at one a piece, is Draymond Green being targeted with the TECHS or is he asking for it? (pause) Then, What is the Post LBJ era going to look like in the NBA and Paul Pierce had some interesting thoughts on why NBA Players date White Women Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga

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a free pick. I'm Treasurer Wilson aka STATbaby along with your hosts Mace and Cam and today we are joined with our analyst Maurice Claret. Mo, it's good. I'm ready to cook today, baby. I'm ready to cook. I see you without an upgraded camera, man. Yeah. Yeah. The professionals ain't come set it up yet.

So I'm a few, you know, a lot of decimals away, but I'm just letting you know. I heard the challenge. I'll be ready next week. You know what's crazy? You know what's crazy? The whole shit that's crazy is the nigga said, Mo, what's up, baby? I'm ready to cook.

I got a spatula in his hand, smacking and talking to Mo. What you talking about, man? What up, baby? I'm ready to cook. Smacking the spatula on your head. Yo, Cam. I let you slide, Paul, yesterday. Oh, yo, you said, like, three things.

What'd I say? You want to bring them up. All right, I'm just saying. Oh, my goodness, Cam three things. What'd I say? I just wanna bring them up. All right, I'm just saying. Oh my goodness, Cam, yesterday. What'd I say? You was all over the place, for real. Okay.

You was talking pause. You said something about, I don't even wanna bring up your past. The expiration date is up on that milk, man. Pause. It expired, man. It expired, man. It expired, man. It's all good.

When you're ready though, I want to hear what it was, Mase. Just so I know. Yeah, just so we know. I see how he's rocking and I'm gonna let him know now. Mase, you mad at me because you talk about what a baby smacking a spatula in your hand. Took about a long time to see, I'm ready.

I'm ready to cook. I'll just make an observation. I'm just saying what's going on with your monk. Yesterday you said they got all the loose balls and he went up and he smashed the balls. And I was like, yo, I didn't want to bring that up. But if you're fishing, let's go. It's not a problem.

His expiration date on a statute of limitation is up on that joint, man. You mad at me? OK, no foul. Diving on all the loose balls was crazy. And he went up and he snatched the ball. It was crazy. All right, let's take a-

I was looking at Stat. I said Stat, let everything go today. Couldn't have been me, because she would have said something. All right, look, you're right. I see a few people say, let's take a poll. I did, I said that, I definitely said what Macy's talking about. I see a few people say, let's take a poll. I did, I said that, I definitely said what Macy's talking

about, I definitely said that they was, the Knicks was diving for loose balls, pause, or snatch the ball, or pause, or whatever. What's more crazy? Diving for loose balls, a smack in the spasso, tell them, what up baby, I'm ready to cook. It's like, we take the poll, pause, we do the poll. You just said, you just said, let's take a poll.

I said pause, I said pause, I said pause. This is the second, this is the second let's take a poll. I said pause, let's take a vote, let's take a challenge. Okay, no problem. See, this is what happens cuz he get mad He can't like you said he can't lose, you know You gotta start this will go over this will go in the whole hour Way to start the show

I because you can't be wrong. This is you. I admit it to me being wrong. I admit it, I was wrong. I said I was wrong for saying that you bringing up old shit because you gotta just get the spatula back out. You comfortable with the spatula? You can't have it out. You can't have to put it down. Get it cooked. You know what? You don't even sound right saying I was wrong. You don't even sound right

saying you was wrong. I was wrong. Listen, I'm not arguing. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. So we're going to do a vote for the people and we'll see what they say. Yeah let us know in the comments what you guys think cause Mase got time today. So this should be an interesting episode. Okay, so the Timberwolves beat the Warriors 117-93. Steph Curry's return is still unclear.

So Maurice, thoughts on the game and then how do you see this series playing out? From the start of the game and then how do you see this series playing out? From the start of the game, when I seen the Timberwolves go up about 13 points, I just seen just go to state pretty much like everybody else says, it felt like that they couldn't find any rhythm pause to just get going. And I don't know if that's just a symptom of, nobody's ever had that many plays, not called for them. Nobody's drawn up to, you know, take 15, 20, 30 shots. And Steve Kerr and the assistant coaches had to throw something together, but it just felt like when they came down to court, like they were just passing the ball and speaking about Golden State back and forth to one another, just like

trying to find somebody to kind of get them going. And I just thought to myself, like, you know, Jimmy Butler's new to the squad and it just felt like there was nothing going on. But I started to look at the game like a totally different way too. And I was like, man, I never knew how much impact one player could have. Like even looking at them visually, I was like, man, I'm not even interested in seeing them

if Steph Curry's not on the court. But then from a scheme standpoint, like I was like, man, like, you know, these guys, they don't have anybody who could stretch the floor, have to guard the guards that have court that can create lanes and create opportunities for other people. So if he's not back soon, I know he said he's out a week,

but if he's not back soon, this series can get stolen and they can get knocked out by the Timberwolves. And in addition to that, you know, I seen Steve Kerr, he had a couple of moments where he was telling like Draymond Green, he gave him that look like, come on my nigga, like, we got Steph Curry out already and you over here throwing these crazy elbows at niggas

and becoming a distraction to something that's already fractured. And I know that's going to be a thing and people are gonna talk about that, but I just don't see it ending well for Gold Estate if Curry isn't back, but we're sort of watching like our superstars from the last generation get old age out and and I'll have injuries that that keep them down for a little bit. Yeah I think Mo I think you're missing a point.

The point is, there's new hotness, pause, there's new guys that are coming and take that spot. Even if Stephen Curry is not hurt today. I mean yesterday, I think they still lose this game. I think Minnesota came to win this game, being that they lost the first game, they had to come back and get this game. And I truly believe this. Even if Stephen Curry was there, he played his heart out.

I think Steve Kerr, this is the genius of Steve Kerr in this moment, that he knew that was going to happen. So if the chances are you're probably going to lose this game anyway, why not just rest Steph and see if you can get them back for game three? Because I don't think they was going to win this game after getting the first game in Minnesota I think is a foregone conclusion that unlike these other teams that allow people to steal two games, I couldn't see Minnesota giving up two games, even though Boston has and I know we'll get to that.

But I think this was genius for Stephen Curry not to play and for these other guys to play and to get them some more reps. Because when you go deeper and deeper into the playoffs, of course, you need those other players that normally are not the stars to show up. And this gave them reps to do that. Yeah, I got to agree with Mo. Listen, Steph Curry is expected to miss three games. Like most expected to miss a week.

So it isn't just about missing a night. He's definitely going to miss game three and possibly game four depending on scheduling. So This should definitely get out of hand quick like most said because stuff is not coming back a hundred percent night next game and Probably probably not the game after that and hopefully but he gets back missing three games, they're not down three one. Maybe they, if they could get it two, make the series two two, but Tom Steph come back, I think that Golden State still has a chance.

But if they're down three to one, but Tom Steph gets back, some kind of a foregone conclusion. We did have a scary moment in the second quarter when somebody stepped on Ant-Man's ankle and Ant-Man had to limp off the court and he was out to halftime and I was like oh but then when I looked at it they kept showing Steph Curry's face on the bench where Ant-Man was hurt and I'm not saying Steph Curry was saying good for him or

anything like that he definitely wasn't but Steph Curry had him. This thing could be even if he out and I'm out. Now we got more of an even situation. But Ant-Man sucked it up, pause, came back second half and played the whole second half. He looked really good. It looked really scary. Looked like one of them Achilles joints because somebody stepped on it.

But no, it looked like nobody did step on it. Pardon me, but then the replay showed somebody stepped on it. But he came out, toughed it out, had a decent game, 20 points. The rest of the crew definitely chipped in Julius Ranzeau, Devin Chenzo now everybody played their part they did what they're supposed to do but to me Golden State did what they're supposed to do when I say that Minnesota did they supposed to do they did what they supposed to do last night but anytime you're on the road and you get a game

you already automatically steal home court advantage. Maybe that'll work in the Warriors' favor, maybe not. But I do know this, that Jimmy Butler is definitely a Golden State Warrior, but he needs to play like he's one of the Miami Heat. He needs to get in the situation and realize what the situation is and say, all this playing within the system at this particular moment is not gonna get a win for us.

I need to go to the Baja. I need to be a little selfish. I need to tell y'all, listen, I know y'all may be mad at me, but this what we need to get a victory. 17 points and passing the ball. Like I said, I get it. You wanna play within the system, so on, but you see what that got you last night

with no Steph Curry. Now I do agree with Mace. You want to play within the system. So, but you see what that got you last night with no Steph Curry. Now I do agree with Mase. I think the Minnesota back was against the wall and they realized they didn't want to be down 2-0. I do agree with him when he says whether Steph Curry was playing or not. I don't think they would have won the game. I agree with that. But not for two and three games. That Steph game.

Steph is going to miss another two, three games. I don't know how that looks for Golden State, whether they go home or not. The best bet is this, hopefully you can get them back the game after next, but they're saying that's not even definite. So, Golden State, you guys can be in trouble. I'll see how you guys look at home without Steph Curry next game, but it doesn't look good.

Okay. So, thanks for this. Okay, Mo. Yeah, no, Yeah, no. So what I was actually like, you know, so you say Jimmy Butler should go out and he needs to produce more. But I was asking myself when I was watching the game was that do they have enough, you know, like when they brought Jimmy Butler in,

he was supposed to be a complimentary piece to stuff. Right. And then all of the other officers probably developed off of that. But I was asking myself, do they have enough right now, enough packages and do they have the right now, enough packages and do they have the personnel to allow Jimmy Butler to be who he's supposed to be to go out there and score that many points? And I only say that because, you know, I watch all of these other podcasts, right?

Well, all these basketball players, right? And they will say before the game, you know, the coach don't say to you, hey, man, you need 15 shots, you need 20 shots, you need 30 shots or whatever it may be. When they were talking about the production they would need from certain players. So I was taking that into context. I'm like, you know, what if that what if Steph Curry getting hurt so fast? We say, man, I don't even know if we have the personnel to facilitate that that situation around Jimmy Butler.

I didn't articulate it well earlier, but I was saying that to myself as I was watching the game, you know, like, you know, what if they just don't have the current package for him, for him to produce what they need to produce just because he was brought in to be a complimentary piece amongst the other guys? Yeah, I totally get where you're coming from, 100%. And what I'm saying is this, and I know it's a couple years removed

and he's probably Jimmy Butler, maybe 34, 35, 36. But, and I agree with you, and what you said was 100% accurate. But the pieces he has around him was just as good as the pieces he had around him in Miami when he took them to the championship. So he had to me, don't get me wrong, you got to bear him out of bio there with you, along with some decent pieces, you know. But you know, Tyler Harrow wasn't no Tyler Harrow like today point being is to me you have enough pieces around you currently to do what you did in Miami now you you know every year counts when

you get over 33 34 you know 33 into 35 is a big difference 35 to 37 is a big difference 37 to 39 is a big difference but I to 37 is a big difference. 37 to 39 is a big difference. But I do believe he has enough in the tank to do that. I just really believe that he is looked at as everywhere he goes, he's a problem, or this, that, and the third, and he doesn't want to be looked at like that, and he wants to play within the system when that's not gonna get it to win this series.

So I do agree with what you're saying, Moe, 100%. But I do think he has enough left in the tank and I do think he has enough decent pieces. You know, see Buddy Hill, he has the highest shooting percentage of catching shoot in the NBA. It's something ridiculous, like 88%. It's some wild shit.

Not when he's off the dribble. I'm talking about when he catches it, no dribble, shoot, his percentage is crazy. It's like, like I said, it's over 85% So when you got somebody like that if you driving and everybody's gonna collapse on you stop settling for the three I'm talking about everybody else if you're driving and you're gonna have people collapse on you. That's Jimmy Butler You're gonna get an open buddy here. You're gonna get an open present ski Pardon me for pronouncing his name wrong

Another problem happened last night that didn't happen in game one, that Draymond Green wasn't hitting the threes that he hit in game one. Draymond Green knocked down four threes, and if Draymond Green knocks down the threes, that makes him an even more dangerous threat. He only had one three last night, the shot wasn't falling.

But all those things go into account of what happened last night. This is when Jimmy Butler needs to be a problem. This is when he's supposed to go out there and say, you know what, enough is enough, pause, and get them about 35 points. This is, like you said, Kelly, he got better pieces actually than what he had in Miami.

It's no excuse for not getting it done. I think the whole idea of thinking they brought him in just to be, how could I say it? A complimentary piece to Steph and Curry is not incorrect, but it's incomplete. I think they brought them in to be that complimentary player. But also when Steph is out, be the player you know to be. And this is, we needed to be your team when Steph is not out. In case something like this happened, we have another person we could turn the team over to

and get the job done. And I think that's what's Kurt was expecting. Let me ask another question before we move on real quick, right? How much do you think like mentality plays into this, right? And I just start to think about all the stuff that Jimmy Butler was going through mentally prior to getting to Golden State, all the stuff that Jimmy Butler was going through mentally prior to getting to

Golden State. All the stuff with Pat Riley, you know, like to tap into that mentality of like total killer mode, it's my personal belief that you need some momentum to get to that space. And so when we talk about what he was and his production level back when he took Miami to the championship, like there was probably like a progressive, there was probably like a progression to get to where he was at and he was a killer all season, but can somebody mentally be there? And I don't know how to compare it to an entertainment world, like where you just can't sit down and just write songs

like that are hate records out the blue. Like there has to be some sort of momentum or discipline that takes place at a point. But I'm just trying to figure out like all of these other factors that goes into somebody being able to perform at a high level, you know what I'm saying? Just being a devil's advocate after hearing y'all talk. What do you think Mo when it comes to football?

Can somebody that hasn't been running well actually get mad enough to go out there and have a breakout game? What would you say? No, I can't. No, I don't think you can do it. I just, my answer is actually no. I think that you have to like have a level of discipline.

I think you can go out there, you may do it for a moment, you may do it for a series, but I think like to get to that mental space and have that dog mentality, I think that's just a course of repetition of you like doing it all season. You know what I'm saying?

Where you hustling, you bustling, and like you just locked into a different zone. But I don't think that he was in that zone in Miami, and that's what caused all the problems in Miami. Because like, when you focused on something, you like, man, fuck all this dumb shit going on around me. Like, I'm focused on the goal, right? And so he may have come to go to state like,

man, I'm looking for relief or I'm looking just to be a piece of a puzzle. And then before you know it, you're gonna miss it about. Now it's not to say that he can't go out here and re-spark something inside of him. But I'm just saying that I was just playing devil's advocate, just like to the mentality to produce at that level. I just wanted to hear y'all thoughts on it. That's it. Or just do you think or do you have any thoughts towards it?

So basically you saying he went there to chill out And then he found himself in the same beef as last time and he got to get busy again for us Is that what you can't Yeah, that's exactly where we at. Like yo, you came over here to the field, now it's time to get rough and people need you a little bit more pause than what they needed you for. Yeah, it be's like that sometimes.

You know, trouble can follow you. Trouble followed him all the way out to go to the States. He got to figure it out. They paying him the money, he's getting paid good money. And he still like, killer would always say, he still got gas in his tank to get this done. Gotta get it done. Yeah, my opinion is this.

If you're not hurt or you're not injured and you one of them niggas, it's gonna be your mentality. I don't know, what you're saying is, like I said, I heard what you said, but basically you're trying to imply that he doesn't have a killer mentality. And if you don't have a killer mentality, a team's gonna recognize that

and they're not gonna keep you around because that's what they kept you around for. And as a matter of fact, let me stop lying. Cause Ben Simmons is still in the NBA. So they might keep you around, but that's not what they was expecting from me. You know, they're expecting something different. I compared like what you're saying Mo

is more like to me, people who fight in nutrition or fight in father time. Like for instance, Kobe Bryant, right? We'll use Kobe Bryant for example. Kobe Bryant said that I'm not gonna be in the game at average 15, 16 points. So when it gets to that level, I'm not gonna play anymore.

I just, I don't think I could play anymore. And everybody doesn't have Kobe mentality. Some people are like, well 15 is all right with me. I still need this check because some niggas getting mad money and some people still wanna get the money. Now the money that people are getting today, they first two contracts, because that niggas up for life with the money. These the money that people are getting today, they first two contracts, because that niggas up for life with the money,

these young niggas getting. But I don't know where Jimmy Butler's brain at, but I'm not going to accuse him of what you just said, that he doesn't have it. To me, this is Cam's personal opinion, that he's just trying to fit in, pause, because he seems like a problem everywhere he goes. And you're dealing with a championship organization,

not just a championship organization. Niggas on the team and the coaching staff who have zero tolerance towards certain shit. You know, we sat there and seen Kevin Durant leave that team when that team was all world, because him and Draymond got into a spat. I'm not saying that's the only reason that Kevin Durant left. I don't really know the details, but we seen publicly

that they got into an argument and shit was never the same after they got into an argument. You know what I'm saying? So as people who gonna hold you accountable on the team, I just think that he's being too much of a team player because he seems like it's a problem. It's like boxing to me. I see a lot of boxers and especially today it's even worse. Once they get that money they

don't have to eye the tiger no more because the reason that they was so good coming up because they was broke. They wanted to get that money then they start getting that money you get relaxed they not fighting the same. I don't even want to call certain niggas out. We see niggas just doing TikToks. Too much chrome heart. too much Chrome Heart. Yeah, too much Chrome Heart. All of that. Yeah, there's certain boxes right now,

to this day, that just disgust me. Because they were so talented, and now they made so much money, and now they can't get back to where they was at. And they probably need money now. Certain niggas, unless I'm not saying nobody's name, but these niggas could have been all over the some money got lazy wasn't training didn't take their body Poor seriously when they wasn't fighting like people always want to do or have beat

Floyd Mayweather's record when it comes to boxing. Yo Floyd 50, you know Floyd 50, you know But are you willing to do? What Floyd does are you willing to go to the club and say just give me water? Are you are you willing to go to go see a? Comedy show in Vegas on the strip and then after the fight jog home Are you willing to do that? Who's doing that? Jog home. Are you willing to do that? Who's doing that?

Nobody wants to jog home after you go to the comedy shit at 12, 30 at night. Who's doing that? P, am I bugging? Niggas be going, niggas go, Floyd actually be like, all right, come on and get the sneakers out the trunk. They ain't like, yo, it's one in the morning, Floyd. Just follow me with the car or the bikes.

This is shit that you gotta do to be 50 and 0. And if niggas ain't taking what they do seriously outside, not just boxing, outside of that, then you're not gonna get the greats. You're not gonna get the Floyd Maywea. You're not gonna get the Michael Jordan. You're not gonna get the Cody Burns. You're gonna get average players that's really good

and say, okay, they're gonna be based off their talent. Some people feel they're good enough that they don't have to do all that. And then the long run is not going to work out for them. Yeah. Points. Yeah, he was even, I mean, Keller, he was even doing that in New York.

When I saw that in New York, I was bugging out. Cause I was thinking the same thing you just said, he's doing this in Vegas. One time he was in New York, he did the same thing. That's when my respect went through the roof. Like, yeah, he's he's there. Who you talk you talk about Floyd? Yeah, right.

OK, so we spoke on Steph and you guys also spoke on Jimmy Butler. But let's actually talk about Draymond. So he picked up his fifth technical foul of the postseason, leaving him two techs away from an automatic one game suspension. So after the Warriors lost, Draymond said, I'm not an angry black man. I'm a very successful, educated black man. I'm great at what I do. The agenda to keep making me look like an angry black man is crazy.

I'm sick of it and it's ridiculous. So Maurice, kind of what's your opinion on the picture that's always kind of being painted on Draymond or do you just feel like that's the truth? Yeah, he's created this scenario for himself. And sometimes we just have to be honest with ourselves with how we got to where we at, right? And I'm not here to call him angry black man or not. Like I'm not even here to fight that point.

But when you when you're known as a tough guy, when you're known as a bully, when you're known for getting into a referees and arguing with people, it's just going to give us certain perception, right? And that's the perception that you've created around yourself, right? And he knows the theatrics that he do with flailing into dudes and throwing crazy elbows and getting into all that and getting fine and liking it. He likes that to a degree, but as he matures, I'm pretty sure he realizes like,

he in his mind, he wants to act like he's not that and that is theatrical, but the perception and what has been perceived by the people, they're allowed to create their opinion on you and they deal with you and treat you as such, right? And so just like when you saw Steve Kerr's face, like Steve Kerr looked at him and was like, man, come on my nigga, like this shit was cool

five years ago, but read the room, it's not cool now when we have our superstar out now and you're a little bit closer to 40, people expect you to behave a little bit different as you get older. So he's made the scenario for himself. I like him as a person, I like him as an individual. If I was to go out and get into shit,

I would want him with me. He just seemed like he'd one of them niggas. I'm one of them niggas. I'm not going to correct myself, right? But I've grown out of that. But if I was on the yard with him, I'd be like, come on, we know we weren't supposed to be doing that shit. That's kind of where Dre'maw at, you know what I'm saying? So we love you over here at the show, but come on, my nigga. Like, you know why they targeting you. Yeah, Draymond is ridiculous, man. If you think about Draymond, you think of somebody who's always doing way too much.

Yes, he has phenomenal talent. Yes, he's an extremely great competitor. Like Mo said, if I'm playing basketball, I want Draymond on my team. But if I'm in something, pause, like a scrap or something like that, I don't want Draymond with me because I know Draymond is not like that with everybody. He wouldn't dare pull this on Isaiah from, what's that, Detroit. He would have never did this to him. He knows exactly who to do this to, Rudy Gobert, the guy from Utah.

Yeah, Rudy Gobert. He pulls this on people like Rudy Gobert everywhere. He would never do this to Ron Artest. He would never do this to Charles Barkley. Kevin McHale, just anybody you can think of that was like a real tough guy. And just like you said, this thing, he's gotten away with this for years,

being extremely dirty, being extremely like carried away and trying to frustrate people but like you said Mo this is not the time for that. This is not the time and like you say you got to read the rules. This is not the time. You may actually be the one that cost them this championship because now you're at number five and as time go on let's say we're lucky enough to win this series and we go on to the next series, then he's at five. You can almost guarantee he's gonna get two more if they keep going because he doesn't understand

what he means to the rest of the team. People think he does, but he doesn't because if he did, he wouldn't go this far. That's why you have somebody like Steve Kerr looking at him to say, you know what? Cut it out, nigga. Cut it out. Enough is enough.

This is the same look that Cam gives Kanye, right? You crazy with everybody else, nigga. You ain't crazy, nigga. Cut it out. Everybody else nigga, you ain't crazy nigga. Cut it out. That's all I gotta say. You know, J-Mod, you know, cut it out, bro. Come on, my nigga, you going too far.

I think this would come with it because when he gets away with it, it's cool. When he over there bullying and the techs ain't coming and everything else, nobody complaining. I remember when they played Boston Celtics in the championship a few years ago. They had, yo, you know, he did so much dirty shit in that series.

They got away with it, but it was needed to win the chip. If they not looking and you could get away with it, but it was needed to win the chip. If they not looking, you could get away with it. Get away with it. But everything he did dirty. I don't remember, they was down 2-1 or whatever. And that nigga turned on another Dramar and said, all type of elbows, the flaring kicks was coming out of nowhere with the rebounds. Nobody can't go to state when they won. But I understand the urgency.

The problem with this situation right now is that stuff is out and you're two techs away from being out. And the thing about it is I don't know if y'all seen the play or how this happened. Um, what actually happened, but just in case people who didn't see it, if you guys didn't see it, and for our audience who didn't see it, it wasn't a situation where he was arguing with anybody.

He wasn't arguing with a ref, he wasn't arguing with a player, he wasn't beefing with anybody. What happened is he got fouled, and he did one of them shits after the foul where his arms is flaring and he smacked the nigga in the back of the head and the face rival. But that's how he got the tech.

It really wasn't about him beefing or arguing, refs are never playing nothing. You know one of them shits where you act like your arms is flaring but they really not flaring? You really doing it on purpose? Like, dang, you like, a nigga gets smacked to you all on the floor and Dray, bang, you like, a nigga gets smacked, he all on the floor and Draymond's going around like,

yo, why is a nigga crying? Then you see it in slow motion, you like, yo Draymond, you should smack dog shit out this nigga, man. Yo, you, so that's what happened. It wasn't like he was arguing or beefing with anybody. The nigga, it was a basketball play that actually was a little more than a basketball play. He got fouled, he went up and his arm

smacked the shit out of Najred. Najred on the floor selling it a little more. So at the end of the day, it wasn't like he was doing anything wrong, but they gave you, now they give you a tech for shit like that. So what do you do? He just thought he could get away

with doing a basketball play and smack it in they get, but his mad cameras now they could see everything. They sitting there like nah, they like nah bro this wasn't an accident bro. So now Draymaw going around what? What? I was just flaring and he got smacked. So to Draymaw's credit, it wasn't like he was even trying to beef. He was trying to get away with a little extra smack on the flare. But the problem is you get a tech now for that, not just a tech, now you equal up techs

and now you're two techs away from missing a game with Steph Curry out. So that's really the real problem why Steve Curry now was mad about it. But Dre Mom's more mad with them too because he like, nigga, you see I just flare my arms, I always flare my arms.

But to Dre Mom's comment, I don't know, see, I don't want to take a soundbite and have a opinion off a soundbite without more context. So when he said pay him as an angry black man, I don't know what question was asked to him for him to say that.

But if we're talking about the technical files that he's been getting, and they ain't not angry about it, Dre, one day you smacked a nigga. You see, you dead ass smacked a nigga. Yeah. And that was that, B. And the homeboy fell.

It was hard too. I seen the actual thing. He smacked the shit out the nigga. And then just threw your arms up like you didn't smack him. So if anything that you said about angry black men had to do with the technical fouls, you know you my nigga. But you smacked dog shit out the nigga, bro.

That was a tech, my nigga. Yeah. Yo, Killa, why every time black niggas do something wrong, they gotta try to hide behind being black? Black won't get a model. Don't paint me as an angry black man. But you need to do that too, like why they don't be with black women? Bro, yo you wildin' right now.

This has nothing to do with your culture and your skin color. If any of you don't know what you're doing, you're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man.

You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. You're just gonna be a black man. women. Bro, you're wildin' right now. This has nothing to do with your culture and your skin color. If anybody did that, that would be wrong. Now you think of Draymond, I do want to say this. All of us have played street ball before. People watching this have played street ball before. And you know the niggas who are not that talented got to be tough

That's how they make up for talent They make up for talent being tough all of us know a guy that's on the court with us that can't play but he Fouls the hardest right? He's throwing elbows or he's wild What he's bringing to the team. I gotta take everything back I said about Draymond. That's what he's supposed to do. He's not shooting from half court. He doesn't have a 50 inch vertical. This is where he produced for the team. Yeah.

By being wild. That's what I said. The problem, like I said, it's cool. What that nigga finesse two times, so it's cool when they do it. It's a problem when I do it. It's a problem when I do it. Fuck it.

It's a problem when I do it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so basically it's cool when they winning, but then when nigga in jeopardy of being out for a game, yo Dre, you wildin'. Oh, now I'm wildin'. But when I choke the nigga out for you, pause it. It was all good when I had your back.

All right, say no more. Y'all niggas got me confused up here, man. All right. Hey, what the hell? Yeah, remember that. Remember that. So real quick before we go to break, just to Dre Mon's credit,

because clearly he had that quote because he's frustrated because that is the narrative around him. Have you guys ever been in a situation where like a perception has been painted on you that you know isn't you? And then how did you handle that? Did you kind of just let it be or are you the type to kind of like clap back

and say what you got to say? Maurice, I'm gonna let you go first. Yes, that was the perception of me. But guess what? I earned it. I told you, I'm talking to Draymond. Like my personal story, if you knew my personal story stat and the perception that was built around me

of being just like a stupid, dumb, wild nigga, like you earned these reputations, right? And so the only way to fight them is just to behave better and do better and have people see you moving better. And what I keep on saying is that I'm not mad at him because I've been there before where you have a reputation that you don't want around you. But when you like listen to me, these people listen to Draymond on his podcast, the way he talks, just like they say, but he's created his reputation for being aggressive, being wild with niggas,

right? But that's what comes with it. As much as your love, as much as you pay for it, all this other stuff, like, like I get it, but you have to change it, you have to do better because you don't get to choose people's opinion of you. You have to basically standardize your behavior based upon what society deems as acceptable behavior. So, if you want a different perception around you, behave differently, and then people start to think of you differently.

Yeah, and I couldn't add anything to what Moja said behave differently and then people start to think of you differently. Yeah. And I couldn't add anything to what Moja said other than your perception dictates how people are gonna treat you. So how people perceive you is how they see you and that's how they see you is how they're gonna treat you. So it doesn't matter what you think of yourself and this is how we see you,

that's how the actions are gonna to be coming your way. So if he doesn't want people treating him like that, he has to do a 180. He got to start doing everything different than the way he does things because he's playing into this narrative from the way he carry himself, from the way he talk to the rest. And we'll remember he's only two techs away from being suspended a game. And his two techs are going to come so fast, they'll be in the same play pause. He'll be somewhere, foul somebody, and then asking the ref, how is that a foul? And just that quick, his two techs and he's out of the game, and he's going for another game.

So he'll miss a total of a game and a half with his attitude and he just got to change it. And then you was action stat. Yeah, like has anybody tried to face like a false narrative, false perception on you that you know, isn't you? And how do you handle that? Every day. This niggas you know, too. Every day niggas be lying on me. I get lied to all the time. Niggas be trying to paint a false narrative on me every day. I don't care.

Me personally, I really don't be caring when nobody say about me personally, because I know the nigga that I am and I know the heart that I got. So I don't really be giving a fuck. After a while, when you see people that try to paint these narratives on you, and then you realize they got a pattern of doing it. People start looking at them like, it depends on like if it's a bunch of people or if it's a particular person.

And people start looking at them like, yo, you bugging, bro. Now it's going a little too far. Yeah, like my nigga, you're bugging. You know you're wilding now, right? So at the end of the day, it be like that. But yeah, all the time niggas lie on me. A lot of times niggas lie on me when I make them money

and then they go broke, because I'm not their accountant. They'll sit there and be like, Kim is a sucker. Kim, I didn't tell you to spend all your money nigga. I ain't tell you to buy two, three cars and move out to Wichita Falls and all that. My niggas, you gotta learn to budget some money, nigga.

Every time a nigga makes some brand and then lose their money, I did some foul shit to them. Shit is crazy, my nigga. That happens all the time. So yeah, the more, the answer to your question, yes, that happens to me all the time for 27 years. But I don't mind, because I don't care what nobody says. If I care what anybody said, I wouldn't be up here. I'd be out looking for niggas but I don't mind because I don't care what nobody says if I care what I might said I

Wouldn't be up here. I'd be out looking for niggas because I'd be caring with a hundred different people said about Far as Draymond is concerned. Um Look, I don't know what he deal with Off the court and when he's with his family or anywhere else So when he says paint a picture of him being an angry black man I don't know if that's just basketball related or do he be out at restaurants and they be like, look at the angry black man. I don't know. I'm just saying to me, I don't look at him as an angry black man. And I'm looking at Draymond, I'm looking at him as somebody on the team that's doing what

they need to do, playing their position to make them win. In hockey, right? Every hockey team, every hockey team, it doesn't matter which hockey team, they got, I forget what it's called, security, enforcer, there you go Mo, Mo no, there you go. Every team got an enforcer on hockey. So that means he's not that good,

he's not there to steal the puck. He's not there to try and break Alex Oveska's record. He's there to enforce. I'm there to fuck niggas up if you get out of pocket with the stars. That's his only job, skate and protect niggas. Skate, protect, skate, protect. If the puck come his way, here, you take it.

Skate, protect. Dray puck comes his way, here, you take it. Skate, protect. Dre Mar, now I said he's not talented and doesn't have skills, but he's basically the enforcer. And I bet you a lot of teams wish they had a Dre Mar on their team to enforce it. That's my opinion. But I don't look at them as an angry black man, but if we talk about basketball wives, they may be paying that pitch of them.

But if you're doing, if they off the court, fuck my niggas thing. Unless you get in that kind of hate when you go out on vacation or the dinner or something like that, that's something a different story. But I don't see people, I mean, like I said, I don't live his life. I don't know where he goes and who he's around, but I don't look at him like that as all I look at his nigga on the team doing what he gotta do to help a team win a championship. Real quick, I just wanna say, I salute you for that.

I'm not at the level where I don't give a damn as much as you do, but I do listen to all three of y'all. And one of the things that you always say is, don't explain yourself to nobody, just be you. And it's like, I'm giving you that praise because you're really good at that. Because sometimes it's hard, especially entering this little space, but you're very good at like,

obviously you're always going to authentically be yourself, but like instilling that not only in others who watch, but like me as well. So like, I just think that's super dope. I ain't there yet to your extent, but I shoot at this point, I've been replying to people like, I'm like, anyways, bump you and bump you because you ain't finna telling me How I live my life and you ain't doing what I do. So yeah, I had to learn that What's finna? What'd you just say? What'd you say?

Fina is so different What'd you just say? Fina is so different What is finna? What's that? If we have a debate about something else in the comments, this is another debate. Is Fina and Hyena the same thing? Y'all, please let me know in the comments. You're funny for that. Yeah, man.

Yeah? Fina is actually worse worse than hi enos Yes, that's like calling a tiger a tigger He's just an H. You're actually missing the whole verb The whole verbiage? You mace! Mace! You call it, no no no no no no! You call it a hyena too? No listen, let me share with you Steph. Listening.

You were meaning to say you're about to. So to say you're finna, you missing the whole thing there. The whole verbiage. Mace. Mace. You missing a whole thing there. The whole garbage. Mace. Mace.

This is like nigga or nigga. Negro or nigga. You know, you missing a whole thing. Those are two different things. A hyena is H-Y-E-N-A, not a hy-heena. But we can call it a hyena if y'all want to make it a hyena. No, what Mace is trying to say is, he's trying to say, okay, I'm adding an H to it. You're adding a whole word that doesn't mean anything.

These others are adding an H, you're adding, how you supposed to fit an F in there, Nate? Yeah, I'm finna go. So you're using five words that don't mean anything to say about to. That's what he's saying. So, mob one letter to your five letters, that's what he's saying. So, mob one letter to your five letters. That's what he's basically saying. He's breaking the enunciation. You're missing the whole word. Yeah. Thanks, Marta. I'll let y'all have. I would from absolute you. I praise you to like, yeah, Fina. All right, y'all. I'll let the comments debate because y'all tell me how y'all would say it

and if you think Fina is worse than Hyena. We can argue about that all day, but we don't got time. So, are we in the post LeBron era? We will discuss after the break. Call this thing about toxic, four years and counting. Got you feeling like the option. Maybe I'm my own problem, babe. She's tired of hearing, I don't know. What's happening to me won't fall.

Killing with this thing called trust. But she really thinking about it. She want to be free. Welcome back. So tonight, the Pacers will play the Cavs. Just remember Cam made the call and underdog made the play. So Halliburton's projection went from 33.5 to 27.5 points, rebounds and assists. This is available now until tip off for new and existing customers who assigned up with any of the codes. So you can use code Cam, code Mace, code stat to take advantage of the it is now promo.

So make sure y'all do that. Cam set it up, mace set it up. I got a nice little special, so make sure y'all do that today. So let's talk about it y'all. Obviously LeBron still has a huge impact and forever will, but given trying to pass the torch to Luka and all the competitive nature

between players in the league right now, do you think that we're in the post LeBron phase? And if you were LeBron Maurice, how do you view your career at this point? Well, I answered the first one or last part first. Well, you know, he has a decorated, accomplished and, you know, he will go down as one of the top three best players ever played again. I told you I'm from Ohio, so I'm biased. I believe he's the best, but I don't want to argue nobody with that, right? But one, he can hang his hat on, hey man, I've done everything I could do to be a champion.

I've brought my son to the league and chances are, Bryce will enter the league and he's left a billionaire. So from a personal standpoint, but all good things come to an end. Everything has to move on and go on. And I think the league is in a great shape, just to watch what the Knicks did the other day and how competitive and crazy it was and to see a new flock of talent come in,

to watch what Ant-Man and the Wolves are doing, to watch even the Cavs, you know, a franchise that he helped to ship and shape and turn around, to just watch what they're doing right now. There's just a lot of young talent. But, you know, right now I think he's probably at home, like, hey man, how do I want to end this thing? And how do I want to go out the right way?

So crazy salute to him for the career he's had, but I would imagine, you know, after getting bounced the first time, getting bounced in the first round, the last two years, it has to go through your mind and say, hey man, you know, I might be a turn this thing down in the next two or three years. Yeah, I think we're definitely in the post-LeBron era.

I mean, exactly what Mo just said. The last two years, he has not made it to the finals, even the West Coast finals. Forget the NBA finals. He's finding himself outside of the games that really matter. And to get to a place where it's like you're getting swept or close to being swept, I think that really would say that we're going in a new direction. Not that he's not had a stellar, impeccable career. Take your hat off to that career. And I like what Mo said, that was exactly where he should be, number three.

We got Michael Jordan, we got Kobe Brain Bryant, and now we have LeBron at third. We just want to keep it right for Titletown. Titletown is important that we keep that band correct. That's why I'm wearing the purple. I'm a lifetime Laker fan. This year we didn't turn out well. When LeBron leaves, I'll be back a Laker fan. That's why I'm wearing purple.

I'm just letting y'all know. When he leaves, I'll be back a Laker fan. Not because I don't like him. I just don't like people trying to act like they with us and ain't with us. I've been through that before, you know? It's sensitive to me. Next question.

Oh, shit. Yo, anyway, man, this is a Laker fan last week. Two weeks ago, this nigga was a Laker fan. He'll be back. Anyway, I'll be back. I'll be back when LeBron leaves, Cam. I have the right to change my mind. You change your mind. No, I don't change my team though.

My team has been dispersed. So I'm not changing my mind on who my team is. My team hasn't been good for a long time. Anyway, we're in the post-LeBron era, but do I think LeBron is over with? Hell no. LeBron had 40 a couple times this season. LeBron is but do I think LeBron is over with? Hell no. LeBron had 40 a couple times this season like LeBron is nowhere near over with and so you guys are right he's not playing

in the second round of playoffs but what you want him to do if niggas don't got no center if niggas don't got other niggas to contribute if AD is always hurt and he's not available if Luka's not in shape and he's moving slow, who else do you really got? If Austin Reeves is not being consistent when he's on the floor, you get Austin Reeves go for 45 points then the next day and go for seven points. What do you want LeBron James to do?

One thing about LeBron James that I will have to say is that he lived up to every expectation and more since he's been the NBA. And for 22 years, niggas always seem to nitpick or find some shit they hate on LeBron about. It don't matter what it is, this kid was supposed to be one of them niggas. When he came into the NBA from high school, he did that.

Two, three years later, after he's with Cleveland, took them to a championship by himself, made a decision, didn't want to stay in Cleveland no more. They prosecute him for wanting to go live in Miami and play with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh because niggas was doing foul shit with his family on the Cleveland Cavaliers and nobody told him what was going on with his family,

which we're not gonna get into detail about. But if niggas is doing foul shit with me and the whole team knowing nobody told me, I don't wanna be around y'all niggas neither, no more. And if I got a chance to go live in the sun and win a championship, I'm going to do that. Okay, cool. He leave, go to Miami, win the championship there.

Win the championship there, Pat Riley don't want to give niggas cookies on the plane no more, don't want to pay for parking spots. You know what, I'm going to go back to Cleveland, even though Dan Gilbert says some foul bullshit about me, but it ain't about Dan Gilbert. It's about winning the city of Cleveland a championship, because they haven't won a championship since the 50s.

Okay, I did that. Now I want to go to the Lakers after I won them, because my son is going to go to school in California. I want to do movies. I want to produce shows outside of basketball so I can get my post-basketball career going. Not only that, okay, cool. I could get my post basketball career going. Not only that, okay, cool.

I won a championship with the Lakers. Now what you get? Oh, is he a real Laker? Are we gonna call him, is he Kobe, is he Magic? Nah, he ain't no Kobe, he ain't no Magic. He ain't winning. Look man, he came and won a championship, bubble or not. Now niggas talking about, yo, he getting old,

he done gaffled his son to get that. Stop nitpicking with LeBron, everybody. I'm not talking about the people on this panel. I'm just talking about, yo, he getting old, he done gaffled his son to get that. Stop nitpicking with LeBron, everybody. I'm not talking about the people on this panel. I'm just talking about people in general. Regardless of he's not better than Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, which I got him ahead of Kobe behind, Mike Dope, who is my opinion, is that he lived up to the surpassed expectations

of what they thought coming into the league. Not only that, he's been a great ambassador for the league. I don't think it's over. I would bet any amount of money, it hasn't came out yet, but I bet any amount of money, and I'm not sure I could lose, that he's gonna be in the top one of these and all NBA teams this year.

First, second, and third, I don't know which one, but I guarantee LeBron James is gonna be on all NBA team this year. And be on an all-MBA team this year. And if he does make an all-MBA team this year, that means he's one of the top 15 players in the NBA. Does that mean he needs to sit there? Absolutely not. Because if I'm one of the top 15 players in the NBA out of 485 players, 480-85 players, why the fuck should I sit there? No, I'm top 15 and I'm 40 and I'm going to be 41 this year. It's the post LeBron era, but we ain't seeing like LeBron

slowing down and shouldn't be playing. Now it's up to him how long he really wants to play, but nothing's indicating to me that he can't do it. It's more the pieces around him, why he's not in the more meaningful games right now, my personal opinion. that he can't do it. It's more the pieces around him, why he's not in the more meaningful games right now. My personal opinion. Right. And then last thing before we wrap.

So Paul Pierce explains why he thinks NBA players date white women. He said, honestly, I think that maybe they appreciate maybe more and they apologize more. They don't mind being held accountable. Are these thoughts on this quote from Paul Pierce? Let's go, Mo. Let's go. Let's go, Mo. I got a black woman. We've been together for 20 years, man. He just chose the wrong black woman. I got a lot of comments on it, but maybe Paul just chose the wrong black woman or maybe

his approach with women is a little bit different. I don't know how he handled women or how he let women handle him, but I don't know. You can't talk, Mo. Just say you can't talk. I heard Beez don't laugh in the back, so Beez don't laugh. He said it here. I live in the back so he don't laugh. He don't laugh. I live for all of it. They don't want to get in trouble tomorrow night.

This is shit Paul Pierce talking about. Hey, hey, hey. We ain't nobody like Sammy. Yeah, I'm in the Airbnb right now while they fix up some things in my new house, right? My wife is right here on this spot. I wish I could turn the camera. I'm trying to get over. But let me just show you how to please handle it, you know? When she gone, I'll be talking again. Yo, no, no, let me stop. Let me stop.

Let me stop. I think, you know, go ahead, Kayla. Hey, Cam, you can speak all day. You know, go ahead, Kevin. No. Take care. You can speak off. So basically, so basically, so basically. Talking about on the back. So basically, so basically what's going on is, and Mace's wife is my sister, and my wife is my sister, because I love my brothers, wives, everything.

But this is what Paul Pierce was talking about. Look at them niggas. No, don't be tough on me, Murda. Murda, keep it. Don't be tough on me. Don't do it for me. Murder keep it don't be tough on me. Don't do it for me. V, you better calm the fuck down and don't be tough on me, murder. Check it out, check it out. Listen, listen, listen. Moe's in Ohio.

In California it's 60% so you gotta understand the metrics. Right? Killer know what I'm talking about. It's 60% in California. I thought you was in Atlanta. I thought you was in Georgia. No, I told you I'm in an Airbnb, waiting to move into a new house. So you're in the state of California though?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the percentage is different. But let me just share with you. I don't know if that's true because I think when it comes to women, I think women kind of act the way a man allows them to act. If I could say that, yeah, that's exactly what I believe. I believe there's some women that will act the way you need them to act. If you get them, it's the terms that you get them on, right?

So if you meet this young lady and you've been dealing with her based upon your dollar amount in your pocket, if you leave with your pocket, then you really don't have no power. Like everything with you is based off the money you spend in the bag you buy, the car you buy. But if it's based on like my style of dating or anything like that, it's based off the

guy that you are. And when that's the case, she's going to be, she should be reliable. She should be, what's the other word you said, she would be accountable. And what else? All of that, she comes with being accountable and she comes with being responsible and she comes with being respectable

because she respect you. Now when she only respect you because you got money or she only respect what you do Then this is why she's acting that way with you You know what I'm saying some guys get the best out of a woman and they don't have money I happen to be one of you know, we don't want us standing there She knows the truth if I didn't have a down I met her when I didn't have money I met her when I gave away all the money I had, and she still was willing to follow what I said.

Does she trust me? I did that 100%. Me? And that's great takes from both you guys. Y'all realize when you deal with white women sometimes, they feel like, I did, how my people did you wrong? Yeah, bitch, I'll make a sandwich. Fuck is you talking about?

Watch me go dunk this basketball and I come home, suck my dick and rub my feet. Cause your ancestors, wowed out on my ancestors. Now we in power. And they'd be like, I am the devil. I did do, we did do you wrong. Yep, you're right. So that's what, I get the devil. I did do, we did do you wrong. Yep, you're right. So that's what, I get what Paul Fier's coming from.

Look, see you guys found great women. So, you know, people, some people envy that. So you guys are in great situations. When you got other people, when you work hard for money, or you have celebrity or you're an athlete and you're in a certain position, and they come with nothing to the table and then try to tell you what to do? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

And I'm not saying, boy, I mean, race, I'm not even using race with this, but like, sometimes you gotta get me, oh, I gotta do this a lot, a lot. I always have to do a history check sometimes when I'm with females because they try to be like, yo, why you wasn't picking your phone up? Where you was at?

Da da da da da. I'm like, you ain't making no money. You ain't no six digit bitch. You know, you're getting by. You can't question me, yo. Now, if you was bringing something to the table, I'd actually pay you right here and there. You know what I'm saying?

A little phone bill, a little kids' knee, something in there. Don't question me, man. You're not allowed to be questioning me. So I'm not, this is not going to do a race. I'm just saying me, Cameron, personally. You got to bring something to the table for me, because I got a lot at the table. Now if you're helping me out in other ways that's not,

I don't really need you to make money. If you're helping me out and we grow a business together or so on and so forth, then that's great. But I haven't met anybody that I love more than my money yet. I just haven't done it, man. And I'm looking for it out there. So congrats to you guys, but if I need be, me and my uncle, like I said, we got the plan.

If I ain't meet nobody by time when I'm 65, 70, I'm just gonna mail or the bride. Basically clean up my crib, do what I tell you to do, leave you a couple dollars before I get up out of here. But I'm not settling, that's what I'm not gonna do. Not just settling for anything, I can't do it. Can't be like, oh, you know what, I'm about to be 50, 60. Why don't I just settle down with you?

For what? Nah, I'm not doing that, man. And I tried to keep it real with the people I was with younger, but that was the problem. I tried to be like, okay, I'm starting to get a couple dollars, I'm a celebrity, okay, that's that and third. And they start telling me how to run my life. I'm like, your life ain't going that well,

my shit doing a little better. You know, stop telling me how to run my life. I'm like your life ain't going that well My shit doing a little better. You'll stop telling me how to I'm not over there at your job Telling you yo, you're not putting the staples in the staple look, correct? I don't tell me what to do. I just can't I haven't met that person yet And now congratulations to you guys cuz I'm looking for a future voice Sorry, yeah, maybe that's what Paul Pierce meant. He put a race to it. Yeah, I was about to say that. Sorry.

Yeah, I was about to say that Paul Pierce, for what he's saying, I can see what he's saying is correct for him because with most NBA players, it seemed like the women that they're with, what he's seeing is people that are married until they no longer plan, they retire, and then the woman divorce them and take all the money. And he's not seeing that happen with Caucasian women. He's seeing that happen a lot with black

women. And I think that's what really he's taking that take from from my vantage point. That's why I say I do understand what he's saying because I after doing research, I was like, wow, that's interesting. A lot of athletes get divorced after they, after they retire. So it's like after she get all of the bread, she move on. Is that is that true? Well, yeah, in most cases, a lot of guys once they get done playing

You know, the girls are usually there for the entertainment and when entertainment and thrill is gone, you know, she move on but you know I'll say this right because it gave me a chance to think when you and can was talking Okay, you and can was talking but with black women, you know when you start getting paper, your whole life becomes customized. So you ain't got to put up with shit that you don't want to. How you live, where you go, what you eat, who you're around, the security you have, the planes you jump on, your whole life becomes first class. So niggas don't be tolerating shit. Most times with black women, it's just going to take a little bit something different out

of you. And if you don't really have, I don't want to call it game or if you just don't have those interpersonal skills, it's going to annoy you. Be like, man, get the fuck out of here. Right. And so that's what I think he's saying where I'm so rich, I can just choose what I want to where he may say, Hey, white girl is going to let me do what I want to. So I'm going to keep her around and I'm just searching for pleasure.

And it just all depends on where people are in their life and what they want and what they accept and so just a black woman and I don't think he was said to be funny. He just says something that black dudes be feeling and be talking about just sometimes black women give you hell, you know what I'm saying? But sometimes it'd be fun, we should give you hell. Sometimes it annoys you, you know what I mean? But it's just gonna take a different level of, you know, just a different level of individual to deal with a black woman. I think what Paul Pierce was saying to me, he just used white women. I don't think it's

race related. I think, I think that if you're going to tolerate certain shit, you're gonna tolerate certain shit. If you could get away with certain shit with people, females or vice versa, females with males, you're gonna get away with it. Obviously he has situations to me, if he's using this, that he get away with doing what he wanna do with white women as opposed to not getting away with doing shit with black women. To me, it's not really race related.

It's about what you wanna do in life and what the female you dealing with is willing to put up with and what you're willing to compromise because of how much you love for the female, because you love her. Let's say for instance, you're a dude that likes going to a strip club two, three nights a week,

but you found a girl that you love and she doesn't appreciate it. Do you compromise that? Can I go one night, honey? No, no nights. Now, come on now. I can't go cold turkey. Can we slow groove this?

It's about what they're willing to deal with. When you with a female. I don't think it's race related, my personal opinion. Yeah, okay. I see how you're scaling it as well. He's not wrong. Yeah, exactly. I have a quick take and I'm gonna just make it short.

I really just think it's based upon environment because a lot of the top athletes go to certain schools like a Duke or UCLA or something like that. I just think that going to, for example, I went to a PWI, there was only like 8% black people and most of the black people played on sports so the pool was real small. I feel like if they're dating or have a girlfriend or whatever in college,

she's most likely going to be white and that's who's going to follow him when he transitions to the league. That's just kind of what I've seen. And also like a difference is like for me, like I went to college for education. Some people go to college to find love. So if that's your agenda and you're looking for a boo and he happens to be playing a sport and then he goes to the league, that's kind of what happens. So that's what I've seen a lot of. I'm not gonna put it on a race thing

cause I also see a lot of NBA players also with black women or Hispanic, like whatever it may be that they like, but also to Cam's point, you're gonna go for who's down for what you were down for. So if, hey, if you wanna do a certain thing and she don't like that, you're going to find the girl that likes that.

And that's just that. That's what I think. So I don't know. Interesting quote, interesting takes. That's what I think. That's what I got from it. And yeah. Okay.

Yeah, I think that there's accountable black women and there's, what else he said? They're not accountable and what else he said they're not accountable and what I get it appreciative I would say that I don't know many black apologetic women I don't know many that are quick to apologize I haven't had one but I don't know many that are like that well if you ever met a black woman that just told you hey I apologize for how I cursed you out And we've been real we've been real like nobody should be offended by this

We just we only saying what we came across the whole thing about I have females that I don't Apologetic I think it's about see that's what I'm saying. It's about the personality. I have females that won't ever apologize and I have females that don't even want the problems. They'll be like, let me just suck your dick so we not fighting. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, they're submissive, you know what I'm saying? For real, because listen, I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm being honest with you, because I had a good- Do you know a lot of them? Do you know a lot of them? No, no, no,'t, I don't, I don't, I'm being honest with you, because I don't, I don't, I don't, Do you know a lot of them? Do you know a lot of them? No, no, no, no, no, I don't know a lot of them, but I'm just saying, it depends on what you're dealing with,

because me, if I'm mad at a female, I leave, and I won't speak to you, I'm a querious, like my crush go, one, two, you're not gonna get me mad, and we gonna have mad sex, like yeah, I'm mad, let's fuck. No, I'm not speaking, I don't do the mad sex. And I ignore people, and I remember I was dealing with this girl, she said, yo, why don't you, she said, oh, that ignore me for three weeks,

just kick my ass and get it over with. I said, I'm not kicking your ass, I'm not kicking a female's ass, what are you talking about? I can't, I'd rather do that than you ignore me. But this is the shit that I hear. I'm not supporting that, I didn't do it me. But this is the shit that I hear. Like I'm not supporting that, I didn't do it. I'm just saying the shit that I hear.

But I don't really think, the reason why I say it's not race related, and it's not a lot, but like I said, this my last thing on it. It's like when niggas be like, yo, you acting like that cause you're Sagittarius. All Sagittarius's do this and that and that. Oh yeah, and Aquarius, so you doing this like this.

Oh you, oh yo, you from Harlem, so you, all y'all Harlem niggas do this. Oh that's cause you from Brooklyn. Oh you from Seventh Avenue. Oh you from Langshaven. Niggas will always find a way for the reason why you act the way you act and blame it on astrology,

blame it on the way that you grew up, blame it on the part of country you from, blame it on your last name, blame it on the way that you grew up, blame it on the part of the country you're from, blame it on your last name, blame it on anything. I told them, and this is my last statement, but I tell people about people all the time, it's this. When you in jail or somebody's in jail, it's a nigga birthday every day in jail. So it isn't like it's just the Capricorns or the killers,

or the cancers or just the murder killers or the or the or the or the cancers are just uh uh murderers or credit scammers yeah or the or the fucking uh tourists or the stick of kids it's a nigga birthday in jail every day it's niggas who do all type of shit every motherfucking walk of the earth. So you can't categorize one thing and be like, yo, the white girls is it's just about the environment, how you grew up, a bunch of different shit goes into how it goes. My personal opinion. Yeah. Well, great combo guys, Maurice. It's always a pleasure to have you.

That's all the time that we have for today. Thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. What you want nigga? Everything nigga super size. Two big necks. Like when they doin' them two for five.