IT IS WHAT IT IS - IS JALEN BRUNSON THE BEST FREE AGENT IN NBA HISTORY?! | S3. EP.55

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They'll also match your first deposit up to $100 and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treasure Wilson
Starting point is 00:00:47 aka Stat Baby along with your hosts Mace and Killa. Mardo, what's up, man? Killa, what's good, man? Burger needs tents on. Matching, matching, huh?
Starting point is 00:00:59 Young niggas say when you match too much you old. Young niggas say that's how they tell your That's what the young niggas say. That's how they tell your age. All that matching niggas be doing. Niggas got the burgundy with the burgundy
Starting point is 00:01:11 with the burgundy. I didn't know this was burgundy. I thought this was brown. Yeah, no, I like it. I think they smooth. I'm just telling you what a nigga told me one day. Like, yo, niggas got too much red on.
Starting point is 00:01:24 It's too coordinated with red. It's too much. And they can start. If you, if you match, what do you think about that stat? Matching? Too much matching. Um, not all the time, but I think it's good because it shows this coordination. Like, you know, but y'all from New York, so y'all already know obviously how to dress.
Starting point is 00:01:42 So y'all set the bar up here. That's why I'm like. I appreciate that, man. You know, you know. We'll get started. Okay. Start looking for a raise. That was nice.
Starting point is 00:01:56 That's what he wants. That's payment risk. I'm dead. That was a true compliment. I ain't looking for nothing to return. Of course, of course. Okay. I'm dead that was a true compliment I appreciate it thank you man of course of course
Starting point is 00:02:07 okay so I know past couple episodes we've been talking about a lot of sports podcasts popping up out of the blue yeah well the new next one
Starting point is 00:02:15 is going to be LeBron James he's starting a new basketball centered podcast with JJ Redick how do you guys feel about the upcoming launch that's really cool I think that's J.J. Redick, how do you guys feel about the upcoming launch?
Starting point is 00:02:27 That's really cool. I think that's really, really cool because J.J. Redick is one of the guys that I see on the air that I appreciate his takes on how he sees the game. He seems to be less biased than everybody else. So I think that would be really good. LeBron definitely got a plethora of information when it comes to basketball. So he should be doing a phenomenal job, you know. Two things. First of all, I spoke to Glenn Davis, Big Baby Davis. He actually wants to be a part of it is
Starting point is 00:03:05 what it is i told him we'll have him on for a guest this week and see how it goes but he like yo everybody's scared of me man he said nobody wants to give me a shot he said he said this is what he said i'm gonna we're gonna let him speak whenever he gets on the show i said i'll speak to murder about it i said but you could definitely be a guest he's like man throw me in he said throw me in the loop he said even kg and i may want to throw me in the loop. He said, even KG and them, they don't want to put me in the loop. So I said, well, we'll bring you up as a guest and I'll talk to Mason,
Starting point is 00:03:31 see if it makes sense moving forward. But I spoke to him briefly today and he was like, yo, I played with JJ Redick twice and he'll definitely call you a nigga. He said, he's not that type of guy. He said, I'm just telling you. And he never swung on him nigga he said he's that type of guy he said i'm just telling you and he never swung on him when he said it no he said he didn't say he said it we could get more information when
Starting point is 00:03:52 he told you he said i didn't say he i don't know if he did it didn't but he said he's the type of guy that'll definitely call you a nigga that's what that's what glenn davis big baby davis said he said he he played with him two different times and he's that type of nigga. He said he's not white, he's a red nigga. You know what I'm saying? So,
Starting point is 00:04:12 as far as my opinion on it, look, I like J.J. Reddick on television, his opinions, his takes. I think sometimes he's
Starting point is 00:04:22 I don't want to use the word too passionate but too like calm down you know what I'm saying they make fun of him how he's coaching seven year olds that's the exact word I'm looking for
Starting point is 00:04:39 and it comes across on television you know he gets into arguments and you could tell instead of, you know, it's cool when you have a debate. And even when you get, like I said, I don't want to keep you more emotional. Like me and you, we may not be screaming and yelling. You could tell he wants to scream and yell
Starting point is 00:04:57 and he gets an attitude sometime with his co-host. But uptight pause is definitely a great word to use and it comes across on television. As far as him and LeBron, I'm not sure. Yeah, that's a weird combination. I think I'm not sure if LeBron, because LeBron could have done a podcast with anybody in the world. I don't know if he chose him because he's white and it brings,
Starting point is 00:05:26 you know. You're trying to go skip Bayless. Multicultural. A token. Exactly. I'm not sure if that's why he picked him or didn't pick him,
Starting point is 00:05:34 but I actually called Rich Paul to get an opinion on how, or his quote, or how this podcast is going to be, or not necessarily how it came about, or how it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And what Rich said to me is this is for basketball savants with the highest IQ, purely basketball, you know, guests like Greg Popovich, Bob Myers, high IQ basketball, they're saying. And I guess they felt JJ Redick had a high basketball IQ. And this is the type of podcast going to be. Nothing outside of basketball and just high intelligence, high intelligent basketball. And I don't know. It kind of shocked me because LeBron could pick anybody in the world.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And I'm not saying J.J. Redick isn't worth that. Why didn't he pick Chris Paul? That's his buddy. And J.J. Redick IQ is not higher than Chris Paul's. That's a great point. It isn't like J.J. Redick has championship experience either.
Starting point is 00:06:35 That's a great point. Now, if we sit here and think about it, what's the list of people that it could have been? Also, we have to realize this too. Just because you have high basketball IQ,
Starting point is 00:06:45 that doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to come across the screen like that. I'm not saying Chris Paul couldn't do it, but you got the best basketball IQ, best football IQ, soccer, boxing, whatever it is. If you don't know how to talk into a camera or talk to people or have, you know, banter back and forth with your co-host then it's not for everybody i'm not sure about it to be totally honest my personal opinion
Starting point is 00:07:12 what would have been better is if he would have taken all of his brothers which is carmelo lebron chris paul and d wade all on the same podcast. That would have been magical. Right. What I would like to say is just real quick is like, I don't know how you just change your opinion in like three minutes. When we first started, it was great. And now I said what I said, and now his brother should do it.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I really don't know how that went. Because we're talking about IQ, basketball IQ. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying. I'm just adding more IQ. That's not a problem. You can say whatever you want. I'm just saying. I'm just adding more IQ. That's not a problem. You can say whatever you want. I'm just saying when the show started, it was great.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Now you need your brothers and IQ. I have the ability to change on a pivot. I believe you. You do. Yes, you do. And nobody else knows that. Yeah, and that's a great ability. But the problem is that.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I'm never stuck. Pause. If something is wrong, and that's a great ability, you know? But the problem is that... I'm never stuck. Pause. If something is wrong, I'm not a pivot. The problem is, I don't know, sometimes you don't know which foot is your pivot because you pivot your left, then you go to your right foot. You change your pivot.
Starting point is 00:08:14 That would be traveling. Exactly. I'm glad. I'm not traveling. Exactly. It's Kevin McHale. I'm glad you said it. I'm glad you said it.
Starting point is 00:08:24 You know, these days, the young boys, they got moves that they can spin and still be on the pivot, you know? Yeah, listen. Kyrie and Ramadan Ray. Yeah, so, but seriously, it's like, I just found it weird. Look, we'll see what happens. I think that, my opinion, he may have that dynamic he may feel with the shop, the barbershop joint he got. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Emmy Award winning show. He's up there with Maverick Carter, which is his homeboy. It's a little more loose, not just basketball. And he has Tom Brady up there, the Jadakiss up there. And I think maybe he just wants to focus on basketball. J.J. Redick, we'll see how it goes. No disrespect to J.J. Redick, but I think there's
Starting point is 00:09:08 a lot of people that he could have picked. And maybe he ran through that. We have no idea of knowing. He may have said, these are the people I want to work with and now they're down
Starting point is 00:09:17 to J.J. Redick. But we'll see how it goes. Yeah, and I wasn't switching. I was saying that, you know, when you talked about the list of people it could have been,
Starting point is 00:09:24 I just added three more names that it could have been it didn't sound like it makes sound like you said what he should have done it's that right yeah but in context of the conversation in context of the conversation we were talking about how many other people could it have been so i said what he could have done is put these three people together. You're trying to shitter the cutter. But okay, it's fine. I thought that was the content. That has the context.
Starting point is 00:09:54 That has the context. But go DJ. It's my DJ. Go DJ. That's my DJ. Go stay. Go stay. Go DJ. That's my DJ. Go DJ. That's my DJ. Go stay. Go stay. Go stay.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Okay. I will just add, I think JJ Redick makes perfect sense. Not so much for entertainment purposes. I just think JJ Redick is the safe answer. You know, if it's going to stay into a box of specifically just basketball orientated news,
Starting point is 00:10:24 I just think that JJ Redick is probably who he's most comfortable chatting about that stuff. So to me, it makes total sense. And to have that passion with LeBron, you know, it'll be a little bickering back and forth, but I think that's a good choice for him. But some athletes have. Real quick. Yeah. Because I was fucking with murder and whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Some athletes have. Real quick, because I was fucking with Murda and whatever. Yeah. To be totally honest with you, LeBron might have picked J.J. Redick because he knows he can argue with him. Because J.J. Redick is, I'm not saying he's Skip Bayless, but he thinks he has a high basketball IQ, which he does. And as you name some players too, LeBron may be like, but you didn't do this.
Starting point is 00:11:04 You know what I'm saying? So he may have picked them for that sole reason. So to both of you guys' point, it makes sense. Yeah, thinking of that, then he could have used Van Gundy. Van Gundy would have been good. Yeah, I like Jeff. I like Jeff a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Jeff, and he knows his basketball. Yeah. Okay, so some athletes have spoken up and said that they actually aren't really feeling a new podcast coming. Draymond Green was one of those athletes who said he felt a kind of way about it. He said, I must say, I'm a little upset that LeBron James is going on the podcast and he still hasn't been on the Draymond Green show. When it's your own thing, you kind of can't say anything. So I guess I'll live with it for now. Thoughts on Draymond's
Starting point is 00:11:45 remarks who gets LeBron James when they want them to just get LeBron James pause like you know Draymond is saying is this ain't we clutch ain't we clutch did I not sign with y'all yeah did I sign with y'all niggas cause I thought we was keeping it black what's the benefit exactly what am I getting out of this
Starting point is 00:12:09 clutch sports situation yeah so Draymond and you know what I wish I knew that this is the first time I'm hearing that cause I would've asked Rich Paul that
Starting point is 00:12:17 you know what I'm saying yeah that was a good point yes it's almost like being on Roc Nation and you can't get the verse and that happens a lot yeah that happens a lot you being on Roc Nation And you can't get the verse And that happens a lot Yeah
Starting point is 00:12:26 That happens a lot You go to Roc Nation They can't get that whole verse There's a few niggas Thought they was gonna get the whole verse Yeah, yeah You still waiting for the whole There's a few niggas up there
Starting point is 00:12:40 That's waiting for the whole verse They go to Roc Nation Like yeah This come with a whole verse when you sign when you sign you think you're getting the verse and the verse never pans out you know and um you're getting an airplane hat that's what you get yeah yeah you get you get one of one of these joints paper plane joints man paper plane joints and a vintage pair of S-Dots. But as far as Draymond is concerned,
Starting point is 00:13:10 look, I know they're good friends. And Draymond's been doing this for a long time. So longer than we have anyway. And I think Draymond was one of the first athletes that was like new media, new media, new media.
Starting point is 00:13:25 And I think what's going on now is that the market, and of course never for LeBron James, I'm just saying in general, is starting to get oversaturated. And when I say that, I really believe it's our fault not patting ourself on the back or anything like that a lot of people like oh Cameron Mason Statt and them niggas up there killing they killing yo we could do that
Starting point is 00:13:51 we could do that and I'm sitting there saying we've been in front of a camera for going on 30 years you know what I'm saying before Statt was born like
Starting point is 00:13:59 look at me nigga look look how I'm glowing like Bruce Leroy nigga I got the glow I'm supposed to be here you know how I'm glowing like Bruce Leroy, nigga. I got the glow. I'm supposed to be here. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:08 I don't even look my age, nigga. Look at me. Dead ass ladies and no disrespect gentlemen, but pause. I got the glow. Look at me. My suit is immaculate. I'm at this age where my hairline's still intact. The skin is...
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'm supposed to be here and I know what I'm talking about. my hairline's still intact the skin is I'm supposed to be here and I know what I'm talking about and I pop shit I'm supposed to be here this is not for everybody you know what I'm saying just because you can go get a camera
Starting point is 00:14:35 and a microphone that doesn't mean you can start doing whatever you want to do it's crazy and then not just that it's people who have podcasts and it's not no shame
Starting point is 00:14:46 because we may know people that we call and I'm not talking about what I just said, but it's people that we knew with podcasts and it's no slight to them or whatever
Starting point is 00:14:55 because they my niggas and I'm not going to say names because they don't feel like I'm calling them out because it's not just them, it's a lot of people. It's a lot of people who was just doing podcasts
Starting point is 00:15:04 who transitioned to doing sports shit now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And no shot to Gilly cause he is a Gilly was talking about sports or his podcast. I had guest athletes before us. So I want to clear Gilly's name up.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Cool. So, but it's besides Gilly, it's a bunch of other niggas. Yeah. That's trying to do sports. And they'd be like, it's,
Starting point is 00:15:24 it looks whack. It looks forced. It looks like, oh, them niggas getting a bag. Yo, oh, shit. Maybe we could, yo, you see basketball last night? Yo, niggas was playing basketball. It's still basketball season, right? When the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:15:44 Super Bowl pass. Damn, Super Bowl pass. Baseball. Like, yo, my niggas, y'all niggas look playing it's still basketball season right when the Super Bowl Super Bowl pass damn Super Bowl pass baseball like yo my niggas y'all niggas look like y'all forcing it and it looks crazy but as far as
Starting point is 00:15:51 back to Draymond back to the original topic Draymond's been doing this a long time he may I don't know if he was joking and saying slight anything or being funny
Starting point is 00:15:59 I don't know if was it a video or was it a text it was a video I would like to see the video. Maybe not the second. Yeah, because when you see did you see the video? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:09 When you see the video, did it look like it was joking or he looked like he was serious? I mean, everybody jokes a little bit. But Draymond, when he says something, he definitely meant what he said. So you think he meant it? Yeah. OK, so yeah, he definitely meant it. Yeah. So I take as with that personal.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Opinion from stat. Definitely meant it. Yeah, so I take, with that personal opinion from Stat, he like, yo, my nigga, you going to start your own? But at the same time, murder, look. And he feels like LeBron jacked his idea. I'm going to just go ahead and say it. Okay. He feel like LeBron jacked his idea. I'm going to speak for you, Draymond.
Starting point is 00:16:51 You feel like LeBron jacked this idea. I'm going to speak for you, Draymond. You feel like LeBron jacked your idea. You told the nigga what you was going to do in all confidentiality. You said this show is for champions. This is not the regular sports show, the whole idea. And then you went on vacay with him. Remember, that was your fault. You went on vacation with him when it looked like you was going to be a free agent. You told him some y'all was playing around and then he doubled back stabbed you in the back but you know allegedly hypothetically but that's what you're mad about what you're really mad about is that you told a nigga your idea. I remember you saying that, that this show is for champions. And I remember you saying that.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Then he said, okay, we're going to put a little spin on it. Is this pause? This is going to be for the basketball savants. That's kind of put it that way and the thing about it is this we had a conversation
Starting point is 00:17:52 yesterday off camera about finessing niggas to get what you want pause you know so Draymond and I don't know
Starting point is 00:18:02 just for a fact it may have been genuine it may have been to get him on the have been to get him on the podcast or to get him to Golden State I'm going to show up to the baby shower
Starting point is 00:18:08 I'm going to show up to the birthday I'm going to show up to the picnic I'm going to show up to the Clutch Sports 15th anniversary whatever it is
Starting point is 00:18:16 I'm showing up because I'm going to get something out of this and nothing's panned out yet remember he missed he missed the the Golden State game to go see LeBron
Starting point is 00:18:26 break the record. Did he miss it or he wanted to miss it? Well he wanted to miss it. He was asking Steve Curtis so he felt like I've been keeping it real with you Bron
Starting point is 00:18:36 and you ran with my idea and you didn't show up for my show. Yeah. And we supposed to be clutch. We supposed to be clutch. Sound like a Rich Paul to fix this situation if it is one.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Okay. I mean, maybe Draymond will be a guest soon. We'll see what happens. Hope so, man. We'd love Draymond to be up here. Yeah. Okay. So let's talk some basketball.
Starting point is 00:18:59 The Cavs beat the Pacers 108 to 103. Do you guys feel like in general the Pacers fell off or are they still heavily on your radar or do you consider them a threat still um if you were to start with me on this on this particular topic of the Pacers I think they have completely fallen off like the I think from the day that they traded what was the the guy named Bruce? Bruce Brown. Bruce Brown. Yeah. Sometime when you remove that kind of grit off of your team, it changes the dynamic of the team.
Starting point is 00:19:33 This may not be the person that's scoring 40, but they add a toughness that you need in order to win. Whenever you're winning in a postseason, it's going to be guard play, center play, pause, or it's going to be great wing defenders, people that can defend on a perimeter. So when you remove a person like that, it changes the whole dynamics of the team. You may have people that are still scoring, but they can't stop nobody. So in a league that's overwritten with just high point scorers, you got to have some defense on a perimeter. Yeah, listen. I think a lot of people, and it's a long season, knowing their baseball,
Starting point is 00:20:21 but see, the thing about people who love football and why football's the number one sport in america is pause the build-up every week you you get bill you you have all week to see who you're playing next week it's a build-up yo and it's only 17 games in the season so every week your town or your city or your state wherever you you're playing, it's like, yeah, we don't got time to play. So we're during the season, the NBA season is 82 games. You can go on a five-game losing streak and still come play the next 10 games and go nine and one. And you have spurts.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And to me, the Pacers were doing so well until the end-season tournament. End-season tournament, they was them niggas. Halliburton was pointing at the watch. Dame time, you know, they was in first, second, third place. So now they're in the playing, and it's a long season. And right now, I'm not mad at their team. I'm not even mad at them getting the Bruce Brown. They got Siakam, which is a good player as well. Mace made a great point, though. They were doing better with Bruce on the team. I'm not even mad at them getting the Bruce Brown. They got Siakam, which is a good player as well.
Starting point is 00:21:25 It's made a great point, though. They were doing better with Bruce on the team. But, have I lost faith in them? Yes. Well, I was about to say, I hope you didn't say no
Starting point is 00:21:36 because I was going to say I have. I've lost all hope in them niggas. Okay. And the Sixers beat the Heat 98 to 91 on Monday. the Sixers obviously took the win
Starting point is 00:21:47 but how do you guys feel about their performance without Embiid I mean look like how do you say his name Oubre yeah Kelly Oubre yeah Kelly Oubre has come alive with this team you know pause he's he's been really playing like like he he really meant that thing he said about James Harden. He knows he got to back it up with points, and he's basically been doing that. What did he say about James Harden? I mean, just the whole idea of, you know, I think he married or engaged to his ex-girlfriend. What did he say about him? He said some slick shit?
Starting point is 00:22:26 I'm asking. No, no. I mean, you know, your actions sometimes say stuff. That's why. I know about it. I thought he said something behind the shit. That's why it was action. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:37 You take a nigga girl and wife it. Yeah. I mean, that says a lot. I didn't know if you said something. I didn't know if it was something on top of that. That's why I was asking. I wasn't that says a lot. I didn't know if you said something. I didn't know if it was something on top of that. That's why I was asking. I wasn't even being funny. That's what I meant.
Starting point is 00:22:51 He said that, and then when they end up moving, Daryl Morey end up moving James Harden out of there, he had to pause. He know he had to perform because a lot went into this. They moved him off the team. You got his girl. Got to show up. Not even being messy.
Starting point is 00:23:10 That's just what I see. And with him getting 22 and 11 against this kind of Miami Heat team that is stacked at the position that he plays, that makes the points more notable. This is what I was telling you, D-Lo, when you're playing at the Lakers. It's who you do it against. If he gets 22-11 against Miami, that got Jimmy Butler, that got Triple J. Yeah, Jimmy is out, though. And Tyler Hero, and Duncan Robinson, and Kevin Love.
Starting point is 00:23:41 They all out? Yes, we have five players out. Oh, yeah, so then this don't count. This is the same thing. This is the same thing. Brothers, look, to that point, though, is that, look, right now
Starting point is 00:23:55 it's a game and a half between Philly, Indiana, and Miami to get that 6-C. Right now, Philadelphia's in the 6-C. Indiana and Miami's in the playing, but it's all a game and a half get that 6C. Right now, Philadelphia's in the 6C. Indiana and Miami's in the playing, but it's all a game and a half away from each other. Not even a game and a half, it's a game away.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So Miami could get that 6C, Indiana could get it, and Philly has it now, but it's 13, 14 games left, and niggas is taking off. This is, yo, this is not the time to fucking take off. Now, if niggas is really hurt, I dig it. But for that many people to be out on the heat and this is playoff implication, cool. But then again, this is the Miami Heat.
Starting point is 00:24:35 They get to the championship and from the play-in. So I'm not sitting there saying that's what they want it to be. But when it's, you got 14 games left, 13 games left, and you're in a one game situation to be in the playoffs. I think whoever's not injured should play.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Hurt, hurt, you could play hurt. If you're injured, you shouldn't play. But if you hurt, you need to be on the floor. Back to the Sixers though.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I'm really impressed on how they're holding on without Joel Embiid, to be totally honest with you. You know, Joel Embiid has 70 points this season. Everybody knows that he's the engine that makes the 76ers run.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Tyrese Halliburton, Tyrese Maxey, is having a sensational season Kelly Oubre is definitely contributing I don't really you know I don't really fuck with
Starting point is 00:25:36 homeboy like that not in a bad way but I just don't like the fact that I'm Indiana no from the Sixers what's they they starting three they're starting
Starting point is 00:25:47 three guard the light skin nigga give me the starting five real quick step Tobias Harris
Starting point is 00:25:54 thanks PT Tobias Harris I don't like Tobias Harris game because you're the same height as Tatum
Starting point is 00:26:02 the light skin like him you get paid. You need to step up. You can't be 6'8", 6'7", 6'9", in between that height. Just average player with that body pose and that build pose.
Starting point is 00:26:14 You have the same exact body and build pose as Jason Tatum. And you're average. And you're average at best. You should be more than average. Minimum, bro. You're too tall and too athletic. And it's not translating.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Because if you would step up, at least to what Chris Middleton did the year that Milwaukee won the championship, the 76ers might be favored. But year after year after year, you don't step up. And that's the key piece missing. You got Joe LMB there. You got Tyrese Maxey who just came in. Yeah. you don't step up and that's the key piece missing you got Joel Embiid there you got Tyrese Maxey who just came in yeah
Starting point is 00:26:48 surpassing you as an all star yeah he had 30, 10, and 8 right I'm just talking about season wise it's just about
Starting point is 00:26:55 6th, 7th season with the 6's I remember Jimmy Butler dissing him because when Jimmy Butler was with the 76's
Starting point is 00:27:03 that year they didn't want to pay him and they ended up paying less for Tyrese, I keep saying Tyrese, for Halliburton, Tobias, Ty Halliburton, and when the Heat played the 76ers, this is some footage if y'all want to go check it out. Jimmy Butler bust his ass, and he was walking to the locker room at the end of it, go on YouTube and check it out.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And he says, Halliburton. I mean, I keep saying Halliburton. Tobias Harris over me? Yeah. Tobias Harris over me? Yeah, sound like Soulja Boy. Yeah, exactly. And walked off on that nigga.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So at the end of the day, I think he's the weakest link. And that's what's not getting the 76ers over the hump, my personal opinion. But as far as them as a team without Joel Embiid, I am very impressed. Yeah, they're averaging 111 points every game. So they're getting a lot of baskets without them. And honestly, Kelly Oubre ended up being the biggest blessing for the Sixers
Starting point is 00:28:07 because Tobias just has not been performing how we expected him to. Granted, he's injured right now, but still, like, he's been able to kind of step up and take over that spot because it's really been Maxie and Oubre really together now that Embiid is out as well. But still a lot of excuses in my mind. The thing that I don't like, though, because we know that Kyle Lowry is now with the Sixers,
Starting point is 00:28:27 he dropped 16 points, and I have never seen that man drop that many points even in a heat game in the past year or so. So I think it's crazy. Granted, I know that's his old team, but all of a sudden, now you want to drop 16 when I ain't never seen you drop more than six, seven points. Like, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I don't care. In Miami, they was talking about him being thick. So he couldn't get into the game. They talking about the nigga was thick. Yeah, they was. Don't pause. He had to fight for his manhood down there. Pause.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Which is true. And you guys can search it up. That is a very true statement. Everybody has been getting on him for being thick, but I don't care. Like, now you want to drop 16. If he remains consistent like that
Starting point is 00:29:06 for the Sixers, that's dope. But I just think it's funny. What happened to, um, what's his name? Buddy Heald? Buddy Heald. Doesn't he play with the Sixers too? So, yeah, this is looking,
Starting point is 00:29:18 this is looking really interesting. They got a good team. Yeah. Okay, and then moving along to another game, the knicks beat the warriors 119 to 112 they are the fourth seat on the east right now how do you guys feel about the knicks in general cam are you ready to jump back on the new york bandwagon are you still letting the cart go i'll tell you one thing murder though i'll tell. I'll tell you this, man. New York is pissed off
Starting point is 00:29:45 with us up here. They are. They like, what do we got to do to get some light on the show? It is what it is. We are in fourth place.
Starting point is 00:29:55 We beat Gold... Like, they are sick of us not giving the Knicks any love up here. I'll tell you what they got to do. You got to bring me an extra large Kiff New York
Starting point is 00:30:04 Knick jacket. And then Kiff New York Knicks jacket, and then I'll support the Knicks. A Kiff New York Knicks jacket and an extra large. That could be at a mall. You know, Ronnie Feig, that's my man. I own that Kiff. That could be at a mall. Yeah, they never supported me.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Okay, yeah. So I don't support them. I support who support me. You work with Kif. You work with Ronnie. I'm talking about the Knicks. Okay. I'm talking about the Knicks.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Kif is good. Didn't Knicks give you a jersey? Oh, yeah, you're right. My pivot is crazy. Janet Jackson. What have you done for me lately? I forgot, you know. I'm from New York. I? I forgot, you know? I'm from New York.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I'm forgetful, you know? Yeah, they got a New York Knicks Belfer jersey and all that, man. No, but I think the Knicks, they're starting to look like a good team. But I've seen this before. I guess what I want to see is the Knicks go to the championship. That's what I
Starting point is 00:31:06 want to see in my lifetime. I want to see the Knicks cut the net down, you know, like they won the championship. I want to see champagne. I want to see confetti in New York. And it's like tough love. You know what I'm saying? We're rooting, but we can't root because you might let us down. That's really what you're getting from us. Will we want New York to win? Yes. And will we want you to win before the Nets win?
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yes, especially win before Brooklyn at all costs. But are you going to win is the question are you are you really or is this just another john stark's moment of a chris smith layup a ewan finger roll is this one of those yeah look and i can't say it any better what happens is y'all out there who accuse us of not showing the Knicks, pardon me, let me get my shirt right, my bloodshot piece, of not showing the Knicks enough love is because we've been let down too many times. Time after time after time. We're scorned.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Yeah, we're scorned. We're scorned. Being a Knicks fan comes with high blood pressure. It comes with anxiety. It comes with anger. It comes with beating your fist, paws on the table. It comes with a lot of shit being a New York Knicks fan.
Starting point is 00:32:36 And when you get to a certain age, you can't let them disturb your peace like this. That's just, you feel me, Pete? And niggas disrespecting you from other cities. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man. It's about protecting my peace
Starting point is 00:32:50 at this particular age when it comes to the New York Knicks because they'll have you frustrated. You got to realize, you know, Mace and some of these fans may be too young, not the people that, Knicks fans that I know,
Starting point is 00:33:02 but yeah, Mace made a great point. It's just another John Starks situation where they're in the championship and lose. They went to the championship again, 2000. They lose. Not only that, then you have these decades in between championships to where they don't even get
Starting point is 00:33:18 anywhere. Look, I was hyped. They had me at the Garden two years ago, performing. Welcome to New York. All types of songs. They loved it. You know what I'm saying? You got me in the Garden, my adrenaline running. I got the Diplomat New York jersey on. Niggas make it out the first round. Niggas like, it's lit. It's lit. Trey Young put a stop to this shit Trae Young walked
Starting point is 00:33:46 right in the garden started bowing at half court all type of shit I can't be I can't deal with that I'm not going to let myself get that hype again
Starting point is 00:33:56 and I was on one I got it on my Instagram if you go back two, three years however long ago it was I'm on there screaming, yelling to only be let down again
Starting point is 00:34:03 so all you New York Knicks fans who think we're just not showing the Knicks some love, this is painful pause. We've been scorned. But as far as the Knicks are concerned this year, they look spectacular. Look, and that's another thing with the Knicks. You feel me, Pete? Is that we keep settling for fourth, and we excited. It ain't like the Knicks been in first place.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Oh, niggas ain't going to say nothing. Because they in the playoff picture, which is great for New York's Knicks organization, why are we celebrating fourth? You know, this is what we're used to as New York Knicks fans. Like, woo, we fourth. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It ain't like y'all been in first. We are the Mecca. We're the Me as New York Knicks fans like, woo, we fourth. Oh, shit. It ain't like y'all been in first. We are the Mecca. We're the Mecca, nigga. The Mecca don't settle for fourth. I'm mad at y'all niggas for dealing with mediocrity. Yeah, it's like a nigga saying he's number one on iTunes. Yeah, like, look, you're dealing with mediocrity, and I have a problem with that and I have a problem with that.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I have a problem with that. They call the garden the Mecca. How are we the Mecca? What are we the Mecca of? Ringling Brothers, Barnum & Bailey Circus, when they come to garden, when the Rangers is playing, like, yo, we can't be the Mecca if we ain't winning 50 years. And not figuratively 50 years, real 50 years. And not figuratively 50 years. Real 50 years. 1973.
Starting point is 00:35:29 This is 51 years. That's really crazy. I have not been alive to see the New York Knicks win a championship. So stop acting like we don't fuck with them niggas. We're tired. We're tired. Look, I have friends died. They never seen the Knicks win. They dead. They never seen the Knicks win. They dead.
Starting point is 00:35:48 They never seen the Knicks win. You know what I'm saying? Them niggas don't tap out before the Knicks don't win. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, it's crazy, man. So stop acting like we don't fuck with them. It's just building your hopes to let us down. And I get that y'all niggas is boiled.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And y'all going to ride till the wheels fall off. But the wheels done fell off a few times. Y'all niggas riding on spears. You know what I'm saying? And if y'all make it to the chip to get some new tires, I'll be right there. Him is more scorned than I was. Nah, because niggas be calling me murder.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Y'all don't even understand this shit. Y'all niggas disrespectful. Y'all ain't going to talk about the Knicks. Why you don't say nothing about the Knicks? Oh, we in fourth. And I'm like, all right, we going to talk about the niggas. But this is the point. This is how bad the Knicks been doing over the years, that we're happy with fourth.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I say, yo, y'all look fourth. Be the kind of niggas we became. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yo, yo, yo. But y'all, but niggas is in the playoffs. We're not even in the playoffs. Okay. Yo, my nigga, don't act like we're not rooting for them.
Starting point is 00:36:53 We've just been let down too many times. Okay, y'all, we're going to go to break. When we return, we will discuss the most impactful NBA free agent. Don't go anywhere. All this thinkin' bout is toxic Four years and countin' Got you feelin' like a option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearin', I don't know What's happenin' to me won't fall Dealin' with this thing called trust But she really thinking about she wanna be free why am i in this one
Starting point is 00:37:50 welcome back now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day tonight the warriors will play the grizzlies underdog fantasy has steph curry at five Do you have him higher or lower? Mace? Higher. Okay, Cam. I think he could get 30 and five. The Grizzlies. Who's playing who? Warriors versus the Grizzlies.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And what's the points? Steph is at five assists. Steph better shoot that ball. I'm going to lower, of course. Okay. Draymond Green is at one and a half first quarter points. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam?
Starting point is 00:38:28 Higher. Higher, of course. Okay. And Jaron Jackson Jr. is at 32 and a half points, rebounds, and assists.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? How many again? 32 and a half. Points. Rebounds and assists. Lower. Lower. Okay. Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. Rebounds and assists Lower Lower
Starting point is 00:38:45 Okay Download the Underdog Fantasy app And you can make your picks too So I know recently Hold on real quick Before we get to the next topic Yeah What's the nigga they got rid of
Starting point is 00:38:55 For Brock Purdy? They got rid of? The quarterback It was the quarterback You're lying Who that nigga they got rid of For Brock Purdy sent to Dallas? Oh Trey Lance Trey Lance Okay T sent to Dallas? Oh, Trey Lance.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Trey Lance. Okay. Trey Lance. I ain't want Trey Lance, you know, underdog. Hit me up, said, Kim, you read them shits good when Stat wasn't here, man. You know what I'm saying? You made sure you don't want to be reading. I said, nah, that's Stat thing, man.
Starting point is 00:39:19 He's like, yo, you read them shits off. How you figure? I said, yo, this is the shit I'm talking about. This is the cameras I'm talking about. And Nick hit me up. He said, yo, you killed it. You shits off. How you figure it? I said, yo, I'm just, this is the shit I'm talking about. This is the cameras I'm talking about. And Nick hit me up. He said, yo, you killed it. You sure you don't want to do it? I said, I ain't going to trade lands, niggas.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Now y'all being a little bit disrespectful. But I'm just telling you, I got the call. Because you know, when you wasn't there, I did the little intro and all that. So they was like, I know they missed you, but niggas was on me too. Yo, I see that. I see that. So they was like, I know they missed you, but niggas was on me too. No, I see that. I see that.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yo, Nick, my nigga Nick hit me up. He said, yo, you killed that. I said, yeah, yeah. Let's get, let's play the Trey Lance thing right now, man.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I ain't, no, I could be Brock, but you gonna let Trey stay where Trey need to be. Just want to throw that out there, man. They definitely traded him. He not even touched the field yeah yeah no no you ain't never getting traded but you know alex smith had to sell him
Starting point is 00:40:11 the best when colin kaepernick came out man but i did this shit thing baby you know i'm saying i did peep it though i did peep you know okay so i know you're talking about... So, I... Larry, I know you're talking about the Dakes. Woj believes that Jalen Brunson is the most impactful NBA free agent signing in the last decade
Starting point is 00:40:39 aside from LeBron James and Kevin Durant. Do you guys agree? Aside from LeBron James and Kevin Durant, do you guys agree? It's a good question, man. Listen, what I'll say is this. I have to think about that. I seen this question before we started and I didn't want to actually do any homework. I wanted to go off my memory and what what Woj did was he put a cap on it when he said
Starting point is 00:41:12 10 years because I could go back further than 10 years to some free agents that made a difference and won championships about it so in the last 10 years he may correct, but it's a bunch of people before 10 years that made a bigger impact. What I will say is this. Watching Jalen Brunson play Golden State the other night, I liked his attitude. The nigga was front. Nigga had a little chip on his shoulder. He was making shots, holding it up after he finished looking at Golden State bench. I said, see, that's what New York needs.
Starting point is 00:41:47 New York want that attitude right there. And I don't think that R.J. Barrett would have had it. Julius Randle, he has it to a certain extent, but not the front end, not the entertainment. You know, we grew up, and I know it's legendary and so on and so forth, but we actually was as kids watching Rucker Park games. And when you're good, really good, and you can entertain at the same time, that means a lot. And Jalen Brunson, not only is he killing, scoring, he's very entertaining. When you start looking at the bench and talking shit to the other team, or when you make a, you know, he's left-handed.
Starting point is 00:42:31 When you make a right-handed shot, you walk down the court just looking at your right hand, fronting. You know what I'm saying? Oh, shit, my right is crazy. Look, I grew up watching Master Rob, Fuchsia, Da Dance, and Doogee, Speedy. This was a skip Malu, Ali Motley, and I know y'all may know, nationally, y'all may not know a lot of these names I just named. Very good players, but entertaining as well. So when you can win and be entertaining, I think that's amazing. And he has a New York chip on his shoulder. He's from the Tri-State area anyway, so I think he gets it.
Starting point is 00:43:06 But as far as him being the best free agent in the last 10 years outside of LeBron James and Kevin Durant, I'm not going to say yes or no. I would have to think about it, but I'm not mad at Woj's argument. Yeah, I was thinking about Kawhi, but Kawhi wasn't a free agent when he went to Toronto. That was going to be my comeback pause for that. He was a free agent when he went to the Clippers, though.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah. And when he said most impactful, that's the only person I could think of that would give that statement a run for the money. Or, yeah. Or Kyrie. Kyrie would be another one. Um, so it's, it's definitely some other people, but I see where he's going with it because he's doing so well now. And I, and the reason why I say that is because when we look at Kyrie, right, Kyrie is, is, is doing the same numbers. It just doesn't feel the same for some reason because it's happening in New York. But Kyrie is doing the same thing. Kyrie just hit a hit a game winner with the left hand.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Is that entertaining? Kyrie, to me, Kyrie is the most entertaining. Me and Larry had this conversation before about best player and most entertaining. conversation before about best player and most entertaining um so when he says that about um jaylen brunson that would be absolutely false because kairi is the best entertainer but you know it's okay to be an expert from before i'm an expert of today he didn't that was my thing the most entertaining that was that was me that ain't what Rhodes said. He said the most impactful. Me, personally, I like a little entertainment with my shit.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I like when Big Strict come up the court and start waving to the crowd and, you know, I like all that shit. That's entertaining to me, but as far as impactful, I think that has yet to be seen
Starting point is 00:45:03 because this is the shit I'm talking about. Get the Knicks in fourth place. Damn that nigga, Packful. Yeah, that's right. And it's because it's happening in New York. Because Dallas, Kyrie is doing the same exact thing. The same exact thing. And winning games with the left hand.
Starting point is 00:45:23 That's crazy. I think that the reason why Wojman said that as opposed to not disagreeing with your point with Kyrie is definitely it happened in New York, but Kyrie is not the number one option on the team. Jalen Brunson just came and snatched the team away from whoever was there. Julius Randle, you cool?
Starting point is 00:45:42 This is my team now. RJ Barrett, you don't have to get the fuck up out of here. This is my team now. So where Kyrie is the second option and that's a terrific second option to have, but the new Jalen Brunson,
Starting point is 00:45:53 this is his team as of right now, the New York Knicks team is Jalen Brunson's. That's what I think it's like. No, I agree with that, but the part
Starting point is 00:46:03 I would disagree with is that for him to do that as the second option is even more impactful because I got to get my shot after he gets his shot. So to say I'm the second option and I can get the same points you get, that makes it even more impactful because you're getting those shots and you're the first option. I'm doing this as the second option. So as the first option, I probably would double what you're getting. Or to disagree with you, Dallas could have kept Brunson. They didn't see it. And not saying that Kyrie isn't a great first option to have,
Starting point is 00:46:46 and I know they're in two separate conferences, but the Knicks are actually in a better seed than Dallas right now with Kyrie and with Luka and with no superstar in the Knicks. The Knicks have no superstar. The Mavericks have two superstars. So there's a difference between all-star and superstar. The Mavericks have two superstars. So there's a difference between all-star superstar. The Knicks in the fourth seed with no superstar.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Dallas has two superstars. That was a good point. You don't want to keep going? Let's keep going. Do you have a rebuttal to that? I actually do. I actually do. That was good I mean when you
Starting point is 00:47:31 when you look at it this way I mean it's not Dallas' fault that they they put all their eggs in one basket and put all of their focus on guys who was going to be hurt. I'm saying when you look at the team that Dallas got, they really only have Luka, and Luka takes all of the shots.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I'm going to leave it alone. I'm going to come back to it. I'm going to let you win today. You got the red on. You threw the white flag at me. I have more of you. If you want to keep going. That's part of the laws of power.
Starting point is 00:48:10 You got to know when don't exceed your victory. I thought you were going to pivot on both feet again. I didn't know what you were going to do. I didn't know. Okay, well, to Mace's last point, do you have a closing statement to your statement?
Starting point is 00:48:25 No, I mean, it's good. Two moms Okay, well, to Mace's last point, do you have a closing statement to your statement that you just said? No, I mean, like, you know, it's good, you know, two moms going back and forth. But just realistically, to be honest with you, I didn't think Dallas could have kept Jalen Brunson. They didn't want to pay him. And I was sitting there saying, damn, I don't know if he's worth $110 million. So where the Knicks gave him $110 million million and a lot of people was like, damn, the Knicks got jerked. The Knicks got jerked. So where it pours to right now
Starting point is 00:48:52 is looking like the Knicks got off cheap compared to what niggas' contracts is, what niggas is out here getting. It looked like you may have got a discount because even in Dallas, he was doing good, but it's back to the point that I'm saying now. With Luka, does he make his team better?
Starting point is 00:49:09 See, Kyrie know how to get his. Like, it's one of those situations like, I don't really need no help. I'm here to play team basketball. Don't get that fucked up. But if worse comes to worse, I know how to get mine. To where Luka, I've been watching Dallas play the last month or so. Four games. I think I've seen about six, seven Dallas games. And Luka's trusting people more.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I think he had a trust issue because he's been so good so long. He's been a professional since he was 15 that he may come in belittling niggas like, yo, y'all niggas ain't shit over here, B. To where, like, now he's trusting his teammates more. And I used to be like that on certain teams all the time. Like, you know, I didn't trust niggas. You know what I mean? I did.
Starting point is 00:49:52 I didn't trust niggas. And it be like that. Yeah, I think when it comes to Brunson, this is like his first year of pretty much being a man. So that's why I really don't side with that view because it's easy to play when you're the new hotness. But give it a year to where people focusing on him. The assignment is to stop Jalen Brunson.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And then I believe I'll know more about who he is right now. I can't say that. So you don't think he's on a scouting report tomorrow? No, I think it takes time to figure people out. Like you'll have a guard that'll come out of Kentucky. He'd be 6'5". They put him at the point guard. He's really not a point guard.
Starting point is 00:50:40 He goes crazy that first year. The next year, everybody is on him. Everybody is focusing on him. Then now the points change. Everything changed because now we know you're the person. We had time to put together a scheme. It's not the same as on the fly. We play y'all next week.
Starting point is 00:50:59 I totally disagree. This is professional athletes. They need to be ready on the fly. The scouting report says Jalen Brunson. totally disagree. This is professional athletes. They need to be ready on the fly. Like, the scouting report says Jalen Brunson. If I'm, I'm not saying the Knicks don't have
Starting point is 00:51:10 other players and they've been sensational since OG been there from Toronto. But, if I'm,
Starting point is 00:51:17 and listen, you know who said it the other day? Like Tyreek Evans, you know, people like that that came out and they was smoking
Starting point is 00:51:24 and then the next year everybody focused on you. Like, okay, you know, people like that that came out and they were smoking and then the next year everybody focused on you like, okay, you're the man now, we're going to treat you like the man. Like,
Starting point is 00:51:32 when you would say certain people when it was football season, you want the focus on you, now the focus on you and now it turns into something different. I really can't say
Starting point is 00:51:42 until I see Jalen Brusson do this in the playoffs against Milwaukee, against, you know, Miami. There's a lot of things that he still has to prove to me. He don't have my approval, but I understand he has your approval. I'm just saying it ain't about my approval. The question was what Rose asked.
Starting point is 00:52:03 It isn't about my approval. It's about what I'm watching and seeing. Mike Brown, when they played Sacramento the other night, Mike Brown said, we didn't throw this many double teams at a player besides this whole season, except for Steph Curry. We blitzed them.
Starting point is 00:52:17 We double teamed them. We did everything we could possibly do. And y'all can Google it. Mike Brown's comments after the game with Sacramento played the Knicks maybe about four or five nights ago. He said, we have not blitzed a player this much since Steph Curry and we could do nothing with him. He said he's an awesome, sensational, outstanding player. or compliments they gave him in the actual press conference. They said 15 times Mike Brown is just going Jalen Brunson crazy because they said whether it was De'Aaron Fox, whether it was Monk, whoever else, they couldn't do nothing with him.
Starting point is 00:52:55 And I think that Sacramento Kings have some good guards. So we'll see. But you're right. We'll have to see what he does in the playoffs. But looking at his attitude and how he's been acting lately, it'll be a good test. But I like what he's doing so far. Yeah, and me too.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I do like what he's doing. I'm just trying to keep everybody understanding what's really at stake. Because you got McBride, who had 29 as well, and we don't know who he is. Sometimes it happens like that. You don't know who he is is sometimes it happens you don't know who he is I'm just saying he's not you can't say we okay well McBride is not intended to get 29 for the Knicks and as time go on I'm gonna go on the record and say McBride will not begin 29. I'm going to go on the record and say, so y'all got the record, that Brunson will not get them to the East Coast Conference Finals. Whoever said that, though?
Starting point is 00:53:54 That wasn't the question. Because my impact means wins. My impact doesn't mean just points. You're turning the question into what you want to see to make it seem like you're right. No, I'm just saying if he said he's the most impactful, the person he comparing
Starting point is 00:54:12 him to is LeBron. LeBron won. He's comparing him to Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant won. So if you're going to say he's the most impactful player since these people, all the people you're comparing him to won. And I'm saying he's not going to win.
Starting point is 00:54:28 That's a great point. Who would you put after Kevin Durant, LeBron James? Probably like Kawhi. Kawhi was one of those people. I just said Kawhi, though. Yeah. Yeah, he went to the Clippers. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Yeah. I can list. I'm just curious. I can list a couple other names and tell me if you would put Jalen Retson above or below. Okay. Al Horford. Yes. Above that.
Starting point is 00:54:49 He's definitely above Al Horford. He's doing an exceptional job. I'm just saying my vantage point is a little higher. Yeah. I'm just going to name just a couple of the big names that people name. Gordon Hayward. Definitely higher than Gordon Hayward. DeMar DeRozan.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Higher than that. Okay, so like those were, oh, Dwight Howard, Rockets, 2013. What about, what about, I know he signed an extension pause, but he's eligible to be a free agent. What would you say about Jalen Brown? I don't have him over Jalen Brown. Me, personally, I don't. Because my preference is who's going to
Starting point is 00:55:32 help us to win the game? Not you look good and we lose, you look good and we win. That's what it boils down to it. Because that's why we're playing. We're playing to win. And then, just one more in here. Kawhi Leonard, 2019 with the Clippers.
Starting point is 00:55:46 That's what I was saying. So, you would just, okay. I just want to throw some names out there so people are following because basically
Starting point is 00:55:53 the argument was most impactful free agent in the past 10 years. So, you just feel like there's some people But from your vantage point, Kawhi didn't win
Starting point is 00:56:01 yet neither. Yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. I'm about the winners. Yeah. So you got Kawhi over him though? Because Kawhi is a former winner.
Starting point is 00:56:13 No, because right now we're the Clippers. Clippers are the leaving fourth. Yeah. So if they're both at fourth, it's a tie that you get to choose which one is your preference. Gotcha. Good try though, Killer. I'm not trying anything. both at fourth is a tie that you get to choose which one is your preference gotcha good good try though killer i'm not trying anything when people watch this they're gonna be like murder's just no that was actually really good you don't even know i put you didn't even realize well i did one of these joints poison and it should just be spinning that's what you was just
Starting point is 00:56:43 doing the whole time. You didn't even know who you was in it. You was on the Ferris wheel. They're not going to win. We already know that. That was never the topic. It was never the topic. The impact is winning. I get what you're saying. You're making it to
Starting point is 00:57:01 and I'm not saying that's wrong. Your definition of impact is saying you're not impactful if you don't want a championship that's why i said people got different vantage points my my vantage point of impact is not being a nigga in the room is being the nigga in the room hear that fly one of the niggas. I'm the nigga. That's what you come in. That's what we go by as Harlem. When you had the pink fur on, you wasn't one of the niggas. Right. You was the nigga. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:32 So if the Knicks walk in this room, who the nigga? They ain't them niggas. I'm just asking. If the Knicks come in the room, who's the nigga? Who's going to be the nigga from the Knicks? You get what I'm saying, PC. I'm nigga From the next You get what I'm saying PC You know exactly
Starting point is 00:57:48 What I'm saying Like when he comes in If him and Maxie is there It's not He's not 100% the nigga He's still It's still up in the air
Starting point is 00:57:58 If it's If it's him and Dame and Lillian It's still up in the air I'm gonna be honest with you And that's not a bad argument what you're saying, but since All-Star break, I think he's been the best point guard in the East, at least in the East, at least, at least. But a lot of people, when we were so quick to badger Doc Rivers because how poorly the Bucs played before All-Star break.
Starting point is 00:58:26 They're getting a lot of sneaky wins. They're in a good position. Damian Lillard is playing much better. I'm not mad at the Bucs and Damian Lillard going. And Giannis and them right now, to be totally honest with you. The Duck Bucs. Yeah. And you're honest with them right now, to be totally honest with you. The duck bucks. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:52 So we started slightly talking about entertaining players. So Anthony Edwards had an insane dunk on John Collins and dislocated his finger while doing so. How do you guys feel about his performance as of lately? And then what did you guys think about the dunk? Well, I actually really appreciate the mindset that Anthony Edwards come to the game with because he's reestablishing that mindset that we used to see in the likes of barkley and the likes
Starting point is 00:59:26 of um jordan and the likes of just all of the greats um kobe people that really um competed on the highest level and wanted to dominate pause their position that's what i really appreciate from from him and it seemed like he's taking your advice, Killer, about the sneakers. One time he did something, and I was like, oh, niggas is listening to us. So I really enjoy that, and I really do like the way he perceived the game
Starting point is 00:59:56 and approached the game from that aspect. I'm trying to be that much better than everybody else. Yeah. Yeah, I think that Ant-Man is looking like, my opinion is, he like, yo, this league kind of for the taking right now. It's up in the air. Who going to be that nigga nigga in this league?
Starting point is 01:00:20 That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, he's like, yo, I think he thinks it's in the air. He's like, look, Steph is getting older. KD's getting older. LeBron's getting older. It's, you know, you got John Morant
Starting point is 01:00:32 who keeps getting in trouble. Jason Tatum, he could have did it, but he might just be a little, little, act too light-skinned. Jalen Brown. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Ant-Man got that, this shit is for the taking, and I'm coming to take it. Not just on offense, on defense, too. You know, he missed a free throw a few games ago. I think I talked about it on one of the shows. And they were down. They were actually up one or two points. And he missed a free throw with like six seconds left.
Starting point is 01:01:04 They got the rebound, came down, and not a game-winning shot. He had a game-winning block where he almost hit his head on the backboard. And I was like, yo, that's effort. That's tenacity. That's who wants it. And we was talking about this dunk that I was talking about me, and Church was talking about it. And Church was like,
Starting point is 01:01:25 yo, I don't know if he could be the face of the league because he a little too rugged after the, where Ant-Man went back and looked at the video. He said,
Starting point is 01:01:33 oh, niggas too little. Fuck out of here. And Church was like, I don't know if Adam Silver having all that. But I'm sitting there saying, Adam Silver one of them niggas though. Adam Silver ain't David Stern.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah. He letting them rock. Yeah. Adam Silver may have the, have the mindset of take the word nigga out of it. Calm it down and taste, but keep that attitude because at the end of the day, where we're at now is too kumbaya.
Starting point is 01:02:04 It's too cool. And who's's gonna be the face of the league if we keep hugging and kissing paws and and trading jerseys and and holding hands like yo my nigga who's gonna be the real face you know i'm looking at at uh a nigga like shy as well sh Shy, however you want to pronounce it. Because his numbers are stupendous, man. His numbers are real stupendous. He's playing in a small market. So it's not
Starting point is 01:02:34 standing out like everybody else is. But look, you got to realize OKC went to the championship before with James Harden, Russell Westbrook, Kevin Durant. So it isn't like they aren't familiar
Starting point is 01:02:47 to playoff basketball or even championship basketball. They didn't win. But shit, as a face of the league, my personal opinion is that Adam Silver would rather have,
Starting point is 01:02:59 and I don't know this for a fact, just my personal opinion, an American be the face of the league rather than somebody who's not. Because to me, even though you could get more eyeballs from around the world watching, it's going to look like we lost control. And we might have as Americans. That's true.
Starting point is 01:03:22 We might have just lost control, my nigga. You got Giannis, you got Luka, you got the Joker, you got Sha, who's not even... He's Canadian. You get what I'm saying? Like, yo, if we thinking about Americans that we may have the face of the league,
Starting point is 01:03:39 outside of Ant-Man, who do we got? Murder? I'm asking. It's not a rhetorical, I'm really asking. Outside of Ant-Man, who do we got? Murder? Yeah. I'm asking. Yeah. It's not a rhetorical. I'm really asking. Outside of Ant-Man. It's just Ja. And can we count on Ja to be the face of the league? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Right. So I think if we're going to- That would be a crazy backcourt in the Olympics, though. Ja and Ant-Man. Crazy. Crazy. So, I mean, you can sit there.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Imagine when you're doing the advertisement for next season for the NBA and the posters and the commercials and so forth, and you got the middle person, the middle person pours the Joker, the person on the left,
Starting point is 01:04:22 Luka, and the person on the right, Giannis. What does that say about American basketball if those three are on the poster for next season? I'm just giving an example. Yeah, that they have taken over the NBA? The world caught up.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Okay, and then last question before we wrap. Orlando's Anthony Black and Toronto's Grady Dick did a jersey swap and after it hit a million views on the Orlando Magic social on Twitter, they deleted it. So how do you guys feel
Starting point is 01:04:54 about the viral jersey swap and then just the turn that sports social media has taken in the past couple of years? That nigga's just trolling at the highest level, my nigga. You can see it in the picture they just trolling at the highest level my nigga you can see it in the picture
Starting point is 01:05:07 they were trolling yeah they first of all it could have been and I like I said I don't know black like that but it seemed like this was well planned out before the game even started yo I know we gonna do it at the end we gonna trade jerseys because
Starting point is 01:05:23 even the way they were standing they could have you know what I'm going to do at the end. We're going to trade jerseys because even the way they were standing, they could have swung. You know what I'm saying? They was trolling at the highest level. And that's what we in, the society that we in. My thing is this. Why take it down, Paws? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Because if that's really their last names, what can you do about it? What can you do about it? You know, you got to think about homeboy Dick Poise. What's his first name? I don't even know. Grady. Yeah, Grady. That sounds crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Yeah, it sounds crazy. It might be an overrule on the Poise for that. Yeah, you can overrule me, america and a worldwide overrule but grady you got to think about when i was getting to his the backlash he had to deal with growing up yeah yo dick shut up dick don't call me that that's your name right shut up dick ass nigga you gotta think about what he grew up with to where now, I guess he's embracing it for us. Me personally, when I got 20, 21, I could change my last name.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I would have because I ain't got time for it. What would you change his name to? Could have went Phillips. Could have went Williams. He's white. No, you could have changed that shit to Madison. If you wanted to, you could have went Shapiro. I think that's what it might have booked you for a case.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Yeah, Shapiro is a prominent. If you come to court and your lawyer named Shapiro, you trying to win. Yeah, he's definitely trying to win.
Starting point is 01:06:54 came in here with a Shapiro, man. Don't look good, nigga. When you come to court with a Shapiro, nigga, you might go home, nigga. You might go home. Great points great points well that's all the time we have for today thanks for watching and as always it is what it is

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