IT IS WHAT IT IS - IS LAMAR JACKSON NO LONGER A TOP 5 QUARTERBACK & THE PROS & CONS OF ATHLETE'S SOCIAL MEDIA!

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

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Maurice Claretts Moe was good man I'm still I'm still morning man we lost this weekend yeah you're not quarter zip no more man you lost the quarter zip all already this is why I don't trust niggas right here this is exactly why week to week That's why we lost, man. I told you that. So God told me every since I started like a young nigga, we'll be back in a couple of sex. So he told me to clean my act up. Yeah. I saw all these service, maize. That's that's crazy because it, niggins always want to bring God into it, you know? Yes. So I said, when you respond with God,

no, when you respond with God, they can't, they can't talk shit to you anymore. So, Mo, was you at the game? Yeah, I was at the game, and here with a funny part. I was at the game when I'm watching it. And the only thing I kept on thinking about on like the fourth quarter, I said, man, these niggas fucking up my content.

Like, I was supposed to come back to the show talking shit, had a new quarter zip on, but no, shout out to Indiana. They got it done, man. they beat this fair and square. So, you know, we stood in the playoffs and, you know, we do have Sokenals going on. We do have a path that it makes for good content to play Miami in Texas at Cowboy Stadium.

So Miami is going to beat Texas? So Ohio State going to be playing Miami on the college football playoffs. So looking forward to that. They can get past Texas. Miami got a one first. And if you see Mike anywhere get that poncho. Mike ain't. He wasn't here.

Macy said he don't know where to punch or what. He lost the poncho. He don't know where the poncho was. But I tell you what, Philly did lose on Sunday, so the poncho might be back out. Philly, they still got a chance, Philly fucking up. And now, you know, it's still crazy that Dallas has a chance to win the conference.

That's fucking ridiculous. But I want to ask you, the reason why I asked you this, and I know Indiana isn't that far from Ohio, but I watched the whole game. And you know your personal, know your players more than I do. And I haven't watched a lot of games this season. And it was just some times where the quarterback held onto the ball longer than I would

like for him to hold on to the ball, not getting rid of the ball. And I'm like, damn, man, like get rid of the fucking ball. But what is that ride like? And I don't expect you say too much because these are your boys, these are your team, this your team, everything else, alumni, now employee or non-employee mentor, whatever it is that you do there. What is it like for that kicker going back home on that ride when the nigger missed a field go like that?

What is that ride like for him, pause back, on the way back? Yeah. A nigger like me and murder, we on the team? Like, yo, don't sit over here. Like, like, nigger tries to sit next to me. I'm gonna get up and walk to the back. Turn your music down and all that. What is that like for a kicker?

The miss a field go that badly and doesn't have. to be with the rest of the team going home. Yeah, it was crazy when you walk back over to the sideline, but here's a, here's a two part of what you said. Like you were talking about the quarterback holding on to the ball too long. So I don't know if you watched the Michigan game, but early on in the Michigan game, he had threw a pick early on. And then he threw a pick early on in this game.

So I think some of that kind of mentally played with him where he was like gunshot and let it go because, you know, Indiana was good. So like that's to talk about that. But with the kicker, he also missed. a field goal kick in Michigan last year, which could have basically tied the game in a similar situation, but he came back over to the sideline

and rather people know it or not, I'm usually by the kicker for the majority of the game. So I'm the one who bring out the net for him and he kicked the ball inside the net and you know, do be warming up for the whole night. So when he missed the field goal, I knew how everybody felt. So I walked over to him was like,

yo, like don't let everybody see you with your head down because you might go back in the game. But when he got to the locker room, you know, it is what it is. You know, dudes have feelings, but they didn't like express them. You know, these young dudes, it's like these young dudes are good young dudes. They ain't like, you know, the guys for the 90s or the early parts of 2000s. But, you know, dudes, dude's going to feel some type of way, but it's like, hey, man, it just wasn't that field goal kick.

It was a lot of stuff that went wrong that made these guys lose. And so, Indiana played a good game. So outside of the kick, there was a whole lot of stuff that we done wrong, that we know that we were done wrong. but, you know, it was, it was crazy because you know how people felt what he based on looking at it. See, the thing about that, that's, and I agree with you, like, you know,

we always say for the ultimate team sport, but you got one job. Yeah. That's it, man. You can say a hundred things went wrong. Niggas missed assignments, a bunch of things. You got one job. That's the kick, bro.

And I'm not talking about just him. I'm not talking about Ohio State. They kicker, you know, it's water under the bridge. Y'all, you know, y'all went from first to second. It's no big deal. Y'all have a chance if everybody, if y'all run the table and they run the table, y'all can play them again. But just in general, I remember O.J. God blessed today.

Used to say they want to fuck, they kick up. They said the kicker don't even practice on the same field as the other players. They got their own little shit down on the other end of the field. They don't do nothing. But that was a great point, like you said. And I'm not going to sugarcoat it. people, the team is more caring.

That's what you're saying. She went to even in the 90s and 2000. They care more. What we say this, though. How are you feeling about? I think, I think it's really just, they're raised by their mothers. That's what it's giving me.

You're raised by your mother. That's how you communicate, man. You'd be filling away you ain't said nothing. You got a dad or a stepdad. He's going to say, nigga, what's on your mind? Say it. So let me say this.

Let me say this, though. have you ever had like a moment of deja vu and you just said to yourself man this ain't happening again so every game i go to this dude and this is a real story he'll tell you if he's on the show every game i go to him and i was like yo bro let's warm up you know because when you missed the last year i seen how you know guys treated him so i was like okay man this dude need a friend because we go and depend on him so i'd be the one encouraging he talking shit to him like kind of get him into the mold the last game he did that where he missed the game when the field go was michigan so i came to him before the game and i I said, yo, bro, let's warm up. This was the second time he denied warming up. He's like, nah, I'm cool. As soon as he did it, I said, man, the last time this nigga did this shit was Michigan. And when in my mind, and then when he go out there and miss it,

I said, man, life is so much about routine and not believing that you above the routine that keeps you successful. And I haven't said that until this get, until Cam just brought this conversation up, but that was the last time that he refused to warm up. But him refusing to warm up, he goes out there and he, you know, he shanks the kick.

And so not blaming him, but that's for anybody who you, know like if you got a routine that keeps you successful staying your routine because when do with mr. field vote that was the first thing I thought I was like god damn this thing miss this shit and that was the last time he did that mo it's okay to it's okay to blame that nigga if he missed he missed he missed ain't nobody else they put the ball down at the right time it's not like it was a hiccuh don't let this nigger cost you your job nigga he has what's

God, we ain't gonna blame him. Without, yeah. Don't like murder, put that battery in your back. Yeah, blame accountability, same thing to me. What I would say is this, though, next time that nigga denied warming up, grab that nigger, you warming up in the year. Yo. Yeah, that's how you lose your job, Mollks.

Grabbing niggas in this society. Don't let him. Yeah, I guess even one of us got no good advice. Go out. Go for what you know, boys. You grab that nigga if you want. You know, he's talking about you assaulting him. He got lacerations on his neck.

It's a different generation, Mo. Yeah. Very different generation. I will say, Marisa, it would be cool to see Miami play Ohio State. And I will say you can go ahead and give that same speech that you gave before y'all played Indiana because I need all of that. so we'll see what ends up happening he gave a speech for before they long well he always says you know he comes in with the colors comes in with the good yeah yeah yeah do the same exact thing is that happened he went James Winston on us killer

keep it a hundred bring the quarter zip back after y'all wait that's it that's a political that's a political guy during the regular season because I'll mean shit. I'm talking shit from here on now. Like this, we're trying to win the championship. And if we play in Miami, Texas, San Diego, whoever gets to the championship, we're trying to win. All that political shit is out the window. That's like, just to get us to this. Okay, Mo. For everybody right now. Get fired.

That's how you feeling. Get fired. You always got a role here, you know. There we go. Smoke for everybody. You're not quarters up today, but you are Mr. Neutral. so I peeped that because you never wear a neutral color. So we see what's going on over here. That's what I will say. Okay, so let's have a conversation about underdogs. So Maurice, why do you guys feel athletes and entertainers always look for reasons to be the underdog?

And what do you think is the difference in functioning from a space of someone who's expected to win versus being an underdog? Yeah, and this is a conversation I'd be having with myself and I brought it to the show, obviously. to hear perspective from these guys. But I just, I don't know, and that's kind of why I asked a question. I don't know why is it so tough for a person to,

for people to expect somebody to do something great, and then they struggle from doing the thing great, but when you tell them that they can't do something, they have this thing almost like that that's inside of them that gets activated. And so I just don't know that, but it's like the question, our friend, for these guys. And so I don't know the answer to it.

You know what I mean? And but people seem to function better from an underdog space versus somebody expecting great things from them. And I was trying to pair it to say, it's like the same thing with music as you, when you're coming up with music, some people's best materials when they've not basically

got a record deal, but versus them getting on and selling a bunch of records, it seems like the music becomes different. So I don't know, I just wanted to hear their perspective on it because I didn't have an answer, I couldn't figure it out. Yeah, that's an interesting conversation. And is so, is Leah with so much, um,

information that can be shared. When you think about being an underdog versus the favorite, it's just one thing that comes to mind, and that's motivation. Some people are gathering more motivation from being an underdog, and some people thrive at being a favorite. It just depends on your mindset at that time. I remember times being an underdog. I remember times being a favorite. Each time, it wasn't a lack of confidence for me or more dry for me, either one, because each time it was just a different motivation. It's like, yeah, they finally get it. That motivates you as well.

But some people, it doesn't motivate them as much as being a person when people don't believe in you. Some people get off on that. It just depends on your upbringing. I think a lot of that has to do with your upbringing. So, you know, early on in life, we didn't have that. So if you didn't have that, then the underdog is just the place that you're most comfortable at because that's where you've been your whole life.

But as you go on and you have more and more success, then you got people saying, you know what, I belong here. You know, and then that's a motivation to prove that you belong here. So it just depends on the mindset at that time. Well, let me ask, well, I like him going to ask a question. If you got a question, go ahead. Yeah, so, but do you miss something when you always trying to fight to that place to stay motivated, right? So the question came out of like Indiana had an underdog mentality that they,

had to beat Ohio State. Ohio State was like we're great and you know when you fighting somebody and it ain't shit that you can do to beat them just because they have like this anger or this feeling inside of them and it feels like you're fighting force but that's kind of like what I was talking about like is there things that you lose when you're always looking to be sort of the underdog and then when that doesn't exist anymore like who are you and so I don't know if like I'm an actor and a question clean enough but hopefully y'all can figure out what I'm trying to ask.

Well, if you're talking about Ohio and Indiana, we'll start there before I get my answer, just talking about that. Indiana, see, the thing about it is Indiana's was number two. You know, they was undefeated too. It wasn't like they had three losses or four losses or even one loss for that matter. It was a fight for number one, and they just came up short. But the reason why Indiana is such an underdog and Ohio State was such a favorite, they hadn't beat y'all in 30 years,

if I'm not mistaken, right? Yeah, correct. Yeah, 30 years is kind of wow, you know what I'm saying? So y'all definitely going to be a favorite. Not only that, Indiana, the last, I don't know how long, has not been really good in football. And then they're like, Indiana's good. And then in the middle of the season,

I don't know their coach's name, but they gave a shitload of money in the middle of the season. And I remember Paul Feinbaum, I can't pronounce his last name. He does the college football. He was pissed off like. That's the name. Yeah, he was like, why would they give him all this money?

I need to wait and see what happens. You're giving them all this money and you don't even know what's going to happen. He's looking good, looking like he deserved that chicken that they paid the nigger. And I remember when he got to Indiana, he gave a speech. He was like, why would you should be successful here? And he was real arrogant.

He said, because I wouldn't Google me. Yeah, check me out. That's what I do. I was like, hmm, okay. I like the nigga outta. I didn't even know the niggins say, because I won, Google me. Then the nigger won.

Then he beat y'all niggas. Now he's the number one team in college football. I'm like, that nigga might go for another check before next season starts if he fuck around and get to the championship. That nigga was confident. I didn't want to use average. He's very confident and he had the fact.

So Ohio State is going to be the favorite because year after year after year they're always in the conversation as opposed to Indiana and not being in the conversation and when you have to have and you have to think about this four years, let's say you go to school

all four years, right? This is seven different, just if you're doing math, you do four times seven, and it's more than that because every year people come in and out. But you can essentially say it's seven sets of different

niggas coming in and out that beat up on Indiana. For years. You know, you do seven times four, you know, it's 28, even though, like I said, every year something different. To Indiana, it wasn't even supposed to be number two. So for them to win, it was really amazing. So y'all always going to, next year, if y'all play Indiana again in the championship,

y'all are going to be the favorite again, even if, even what y'all losing to them. Ohio State's just a traditional school, but back to the all-around question, masons are 100% correct. When you're underdog, sometimes it's a different sense of mentality. Some people are like, you know, let us fly. under the radar. Nobody paying us no mind. Cool. Watch this. Da-da-da-da-da. And then you got other niggas like, yo, niggas really don't know. I can't wait to have an opportunity to bust whoever they think the favorite. Favorites ass. And then when you're the favorite,

sometimes you get a little lax, but you still got to have a, even when you're the favorite, you have to have an underdog mentality. Like, oh, niggas trying to come take my spot. This is, I'm a nigger, this is my spot. You got to have that mentality. I know we took a about our high school career a lot, because it was a hell of a time. And we was about to play stuff for our Marbury, and our coach made us the underdogs that was his team. He looked at the shit and said, y'all look good to the semis.

Like, your own coach's telling you y'all going to lose in the semifinals. And you know how niggas use reverse psychology? I don't even think it was reverse psychology. I think he really believed that. You know what I'm saying? And shock the ship, stuff for him on. Yeah, yeah, y'all good.

Somebody finals. That should be, y'all have a hell of a year. And niggas is like, yo, this nigger here, yo. We didn't even beat them niggins for us to beat them niggins. We beat this nigga like, yo, you sucking these niggas all year round. These are the niggins. These were your champions. And to keep it a hundred, it was almost like an Ohio State,

state Michigan situation, because all year, all we heard about was Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln, Steffa Amari, Sephar Amari, say, shockership, this nigga, this nigga, this nigga, we beat them and lost in the championship. But we beat the niggas that they kept talking about. So not saying we ain't want to win the chip, but we were so focused on beating this one school that we'd already thought we won the next game because we beat the number one's team in the city. so you got to keep that mentality even to me you have to have an underdoor mentality even when you are the favorite and that mentality is niggas is coming to take my spot this spot is mine I earned it and you're not coming to do that that's what you're not going to do

okay now we're going to move on to Lamar Jackson so he hasn't been playing his best to the point people are saying this is the worst football they've seen from Lamar Jackson ever so maurice if you were an owner how would you handle the Ravens as a whole because we see kind of where things are going and Lamar Jackson and his injury. Yeah, and just so people know, this doesn't mean I'm saying that Lamar Jackson has fell off by any stretch of the imagination. But the question came out of like me thinking about athletic quarterbacks and people who depend on their legs, right? And when you start to get nagging injuries are production from the running standpoint requires you to do something else.

And then the team is built around you running the ball a whole lot, having production, there. And I was thinking as an owner, like, at what point, and we talked about the Steelers possibly holding on to Mike Tomlin too long? You talk about Ben Robertsburg or probably being held on too long. You think about how Brett Farv and Aaron Rogers had that transition. It was a little funky, but you still had the transition from somebody else just to give context for it. And I said, with an athletic quarterback, when I thought about Michael Vick, and I know his situation was totally different, I said, do you shop an athletic quarterback earlier? And I'm thinking, I was, would, why they still have shelf life on it, because you'll get a value for your asset, right?

And I said that Derek Henry was brought over to the team. He's been there too. I think this is a second year. You're going into his third year. This doesn't help you to win the Super Bowl. And I said, man, when you're paying not much for a quarterback, I would probably be thinking over the next couple of years to transition somebody in who's a little bit more traditional because it's harder to backfield pause Lamar Jackson's skill set and build a team around it.

So I was saying that in the next few years, I would think about shopping him. something to somebody else. I know other people may think about it different, but if it was me, with an athletic quarterback, knowing that my team was built around that and we don't have the pieces to win, I don't really go get some other pieces and get a traditional quarterback. So that's just my viewpoint and context for it. Yeah, I think when it comes to Lamar Jackson, I'm ready to say he has fallen off. You know, the number says differently, regardless of how people feel about this take or what I'm about to say, I believe I'm responsible to tell us.

truth. And if one year he has 4,000 yards, another year he has 3,000 yards. And this year is looking like he's barely over 2,000. That's fall off to me. I don't know how else you want to look at it, but that's falling off. Even the touchdowns are not as high as before. So we know he suffered an injury and things of that nature, but the numbers are saying there's a great decline. And, you know, you may see a burst in his pausing his legs from time to time but it's like the NBA basketball player that lives off of um athleticism and then the athleticism start going away you stop seeing them look really bouncy pause or or dunking it's like people ask the same thing about a certain NBA player i'm not going to say his name but they're like i haven't seen them punch it on

nobody in a long time i haven't seen them dunk backwards i haven't and they're he started looking for that because that's what the game was really put out there on. This is how he made his name. And now you're not seeing that. So he wasn't beating people on just his arm. He was beating people with his leg sometime. So when that is not there, it's definitely going to start to indicate that, especially to executives, who have the history to know what a decline look like way before it happens.

I'm not, Mara Jackson's 28. He's an MVP the year before last. That niggas hurt. I'm not getting rid of Omar Jackson. That nigga missed like three, four games too. So his touchdowns and yardage is not going to equal live what it was last year or the year before last. And his play is not going to be as good because he's playing engine. My personal opinion is this.

I have no fact behind this is that that division is up for grabs. And that's why Lamar Jackson is playing. If it was a situation like the Bengals, or the Browns, and they only won two games or three games. I don't think you would see Lamar Jackson playing right now. But I think because that it's still a chance for the Ravens to win the division and go to the playoffs, that's the only reason you see in Lamar Jackson play. My personal opinion, like I said, I have no fact behind this whatsoever.

But if they wasn't a good take. That's, yeah, that's my opinion. If they wasn't in a chance to win the division to go to playoffs, I don't think you would be seeing him playing because we all see him not doing with he was doing last year or the year before last. Now, I wouldn't have the same agreements with you and Mace if he was 33, 34 years old and be like, nah, Tom just ticked up on the nigger.

Nah, he's getting older. You know, football, you get old when you're still young. Sometimes they say 33 is an old player for a football player. You know, we've seen differently lately, especially pertaining to quarterbacks and certain wide receivers, you know, running backs, they say they shelf life is 33, 34, years old. But I'm only going off to him being injured.

Like I said, I don't know any of this. But I'm not giving up on a 28-year-old. That's a two-time MVP that went back-to-backed MVs, and it was just the year before last. This is the same shit I was talking about with you last week, Mo, when you was going to give up on Ryan Day. And now you down when you y'all work with a nigga. And now y'all national champions and shit.

Y'all nigs be ready to curve a nigger so quick, man. And I could see if it was seven years ago. I could see if it was five years ago. I could see if it was four years. Shit was the year before last. He's MVP. And he played good last year. And he was second run up last year for MVP right behind Josh Allen.

So two years MVP, second run up MVP. The niggas hurt this year. Niggas, oh my, the nigga ain't punched it on the nigg. Janet Jackson. Yeah, yo, I ain't knocking your take, but I'm saying, it's a tough ass room to be in, man. God damn, be. Let's think about this, right?

So, okay, so let me make my point, right? So if he gets to be 32 or 33, does he have any value? That's what I'm talking about. So I was having this conversation like, if I'm the owner and if it's an athletic quarterback, he gets to 32, 33, and he's more than a decline. I can't shop him and get the same thing. same thing. I got, when do you have the most value?

Yeah, that's, that's all I was saying. I was like, did you get rid of him at the top of his game, knowing that, my, you can offload him, he good for two years, two, three years somewhere else. Yeah, you might miss out on that, but you might get your 40 million back to, to build you a team that's going to be sustainable. But then the other question was, like, how do you, when you design your offense so much around that, how do you bring somebody in to support that? That's, if I was the owner, I'm thinking, like, how do you think through that?

No, sorry, Mason. Yeah, you definitely can't trade them because your offense is built around them. And another thing to think about when you think of Lamar Jackson, I want you to think of what you think about when you think of running backs, right? The shelf life is shorter because they're running and they're taking his. It's the same way with a running quarterback. The shelf life is different than a quarterback that stays in the pocket and uses his arm. Yeah, that's a good point.

And I think that Lamar Jackson has over the years has become a better quarterback in the pocket, even though, and the reason I think he's better in the pocket is because niggas is threatened by his run game. But I will say this. When you're talking about from an owner or GM standpoint, go ahead, Mace, go ahead, Moby Nico Harris. Yeah, I didn't say get rid of him.

No, Mo's saying get rid of all. That'd be Nico. That's a great. That's your little Luca, nigger. Yeah. I dare you. That's a good point. For the fans, I do because you know they're going to go crazy in the comments.

Lamar Jackson's still talented. Yeah, clean it up there. Yeah, clean it up, Mo. No, but Marys, it's a great question, especially for discussion purposes, because everybody right now is just in this win-now mentality. So people are so quick to move on to the next thing when something's not working right then and there. But when you have somebody at Lamar Jackson's Calibur being one of the best quarterbacks, like that's just not something that you play with.

And that's why, I mean, Cam bringing up, Miko, it's hilarious because literally maybe if that was the thought process, to the fan, to the people on the team, to everybody playing, like it just doesn't make sense, even if it makes sense to you. So to jump the gun and do a decision like that doesn't really make sense. And then I know it's like he's injured, but that's also the risk that you have to take. because we kind of had this discussion yesterday when we're talking about a lot of the time the organizations don't really care that much about the players they just want to win so it's like if it's risking potentially you know being at the top of division and seeing where things go and if he can still play they're still

going to play him rather than just be like oh well we'll just figure something out or put cooper rushing because that's just the best decision that they have right now so it's kind of a little bit of both like win now because even though Lamar jacks injured they still have a chance but also we're not going to get rid of him because this is going to be probably the best situation that we have when we have generational quarterbacks like that. So I don't know. They're going to have to figure it out. Yes, Maurice. Hey, that was a great take, but why didn't you say that about Mike Tomlin last week? I was just about to say that about all the skillers quarterbacks that she says this about every year. She'd get rid of niggins every year. No, but more was right. He's talking about

Mike Tomlin. Yeah. But that's the same reason you're scared to get rid of to Mike because Mike have another job in three minutes. Now, that's not you say, you play it. No, but you play it safe. That's what I'm playing safe? Nothing. Nothing. You just, you know, in certain situations.

Go ahead, Maurice. No, you was detailed with this. No, you was detailed with this response. It was eloquent. It was nice. I asked you about Mike Tomlin last week, and you ain't say nothing. You was like, ah, I don't want to touch the question. I'm glad you, I'm glad you, you realize that most.

She does this all the time. That's why when she's talking, she looked at me. She goes like this. I look at everybody when I'm talking, because that's how I talk. I will take accountability, but I didn't have anything. I wasn't trying to get rid of Mike Tomlin from the jump. I said that. So this is why we then went on to another game.

And I'm cool right now. That's all. He was on the fence last week. I was not on the fence. Y'all wanted me to be on the fence. And I can play it safe because I know that Mike Toml is still a good coach. So why would I want to get rid of him? You wasn't, you was on the fence.

You was all had one foot was in the portal. You definitely had one foot in the portal. I definitely did not. I've been having the same stance and the same team since the beginning of the time. We know this. No, we're not talking about the team, but you'd be, you'd be on the fence with Mike Tomlin

year after year. Definitely. Depending on what part of season it is. When you're winning, you love him at the end. I feel like the only person I'm on the fence of is our quarterback. But this is not a Steelers discussion. Yeah, I haven't heard Stella Nation in like three weeks.

I'm just going to do it. You also missed it because your team's lost, but that's okay. Like, you know, accountability every week, things change, you know. But I was very clear about that. But I see what you did there, Maurice. I see what you did there. So my next question, because this is actually a good conversation, I feel like you guys have different opinions on this.

Do you guys feel like the Ravens window for a championship is closing? I think so. That's probably my short answer. I think that they're closing and I think you have to go through probably another two seasons of rebuilding pieces around Lamar as he gets older, but you just need more pieces around it. Yeah, I thought when they got the running back, everything was going to change for them. And it didn't is not been good as well. Last year, I thought was like their best opportunity this year. They're definitely not going to get it done. And I think the more times you don't get it done, the more that confidence goes away. And people around you start thinking about getting their money. So I'm going to say it's 100% over for them. You know, just got to see the future. I want to say 100%, but the window is definitely closing,

especially when you think about this. You've got teams like the Patriots just looking really good. You're looking at Jacksonville Jaguars that's in 9 and 4. The Denver Broncos are 11 and 2. the charges are starting to jail. It's a lot of other teams outside of the teams that we're used to. And when we say used to, of course, Buffalo is still in the talk. Kansas City, we don't know.

A lot has to go right for them to enter the playoffs. Joe Burroughs, as much as I love him, he's always hurt. The Texans, they've been five in a row. And this is somebody I thought the first three, four weeks, their season was over, five weeks, and they made a real good comeback. But the usual suspects that we're looking at, talking about Kansas City, we're talking about Baltimore, Buffalo's during the conversation. It is some teams in the AFC that's immersion that I think we're going to have to get used to moving forward. When you think about the Patriots and you think about the Denver Broncos both sitting at 11 and 2, this was not on my bingo card at the beginning of the season.

And I don't think that they're going to go backwards. I think they're going to gel and decline in advance. You got to think about this. We have two, a second year quarterback in Bo Nix. And we got a young quarterback in Drake May, and they're both sitting at 11 and 2. It's only gonna get better from here. So I definitely, I'm not gonna say it's over,

but the window's definitely closing. Yeah, that's my reason for saying it's over because you got these young quarterbacks, even we forgot to say C.J. Strout, they just beat us, the Texans. All of these teams are gonna get better. So, you know, Baltimore is looking like the team, like you had your shot and it's harder to get a shot again when you had your shot and

and these other teams never had that shot you were just talking about this more about being the underdog um Baltimore had in a lot of cases could be deemed as the favorite many times but now that you got yeah he said bow nicks coming up you got um lawrence now getting his feet under him feeling like he could play you you just got so many teams that are making that turn to be a much better team and then you got the chiefs that got to get back so a hungry with a vengeance team like that i don't see where they fit even why you still got josh allen still in that same in that same afc so this would be really interesting i didn't forget c j strapp he got to start over for me he did he wasn't he played good life but he's been hurt this year yeah and they've been playing

good when he wasn't, when he wasn't there. And he wasn't playing that good. Yeah, he wasn't playing that good in the start season. So, you got to start over. I give the credit to Nico to the coach and that defense, that Texas defense is crazy. The Texas, Houston, Texas defense is crazy. So I didn't, me personally, I didn't forget CJ Strout. And he got to start all over, but he does still have opportunity to be one of them

one of them niggas, but I purposely left him out of the conversation. And to be honest with you, Bo Nix, Bo Nix is good, but this is more like Sean Payton, you know what I'm saying? They put them in the right situations. You know what I mean? You got to think about this. As much as me was talking about Drake, mate, being in the MVP conversation, they're 11 and 2.

And you think about Denver being 11 and 2, you ain't talk about Bo Nixon no MVP conversation. It's more of a team effort than the coaching staff that's getting it done. Not saying that Bo Nix isn't doing a decent job, but he isn't doing a sensational job. Yeah. So yeah.

They got the number one pass rush Denver. Yeah. So defense. Yeah. And then Mace, you brought up the bill. So we see where the Patriots have been throughout the top of the year. Yeah. Areas, do you think that the bill's window for a championship is closing? I think it's closing for all the reasons that cam, like cam, cam, can unfolded the whole conversation, but I think it's closing for that reason.

And I think you're the Josh Allen, Lamarie. Jackson, that saga, that competitiveness that they had, I think that that's kind of running his course. And when you have, though, like, even you could say Sean Payton, Sean Payton probably getting me getting shitted on and pissed on and, you know, you was only something in New Orleans and you got to get your thing going and with the Broncos and he has something to prove. And I'm pretty sure Mike Vrable getting released from Tennessee and him being with Josh McDaniels and the Patriots, they have something to prove. So for all the reasons that Cam said, I think that just as much as Lamar Jackson's window closed,

I think that Josh Allen window closed for the immediate foreseeable future. And Mo, don't forget Cam's other man. Don't forget Joe Burroughs. Stowe him right in that loop, too. Is becoming, no, he didn't. I did say that. No, I'm saying, I'm saying Mo. Oh, he just said, yeah, he just said, um, who did you just said?

Josh Allen and John Allen, uh, Lamar Jackson. And Lamar Jackson, I'm saying throw Joe Burroughs in there as well. The window is closing for that whole little time of those quarterbacks that we all said was top four and things like that. And I know we probably get to that at a later time, but it's definitely closer because you got new talent emerging. I would say I disagree as far as this year and next year's concern because you have to think about this. We're talking about team the windows closing, but is it closed? not for me because you have to it is it isn't

because you think about these teams that we're talking about what's the one thing that they don't have is playoff experience now when we get into the playoffs who has the most playoff experience if we're going to the playoffs right now who has the most playoff experience no well Buffalo not but Buffalo

we're talking about quarterbacks it's Aaron Rogers and it's Josh Allen these quarterbacks have no playoff experience and the playoffs is not the regular season and the playoffs is where you become great at. So I'm not saying that they can't be great, but sometimes it takes time. When you talk about Lamar Jackson, we talk about Baltimore Ravens in their window closing, they still haven't been to the AFC championship or the Super Bowl. So at the end of the day, we sit there and name him MVP, but he can't win the big game. Talking about Lamar Jackson. He never can win the big

game. So it's like, damn, man, when is he going to win the big game? So you have these young teams emerging, and we'll see what happens with them coming to the playoffs. Maybe they're ready to go. Like, yeah, this is what I've been waiting on. But if we're going with niggas who've been in the playoffs and has experience and been waiting for a moment for Patrick Mahomes to get out the fucking way so they can do their thing, it is Josh Allen. And it is a Aaron Rogers. And especially Josh Allen, more than Aaron Rogers. So that's why I said the window isn't closed.

Maybe it's closing. But when the playoffs come, we'll see. see exactly what happens. Yeah. Great convoy, y'all. Okay, so athletes on social media, is it more good or more harm? We will discuss after the break.

I'm just saying, hey, if you want to put the light on it? DJ, the dime life brand is serious. I love that shirt you got on. Like this and your bank account is that much? You say whatever the fucking want a second. Rally around him with that, you know, the picture of the, his daughter sitting on the lap, the LSU player. Will we have to be you can join us? Man, thank you for having me.

Look, I tell you. Okay, let me tell you like this. I got too much money to be fighting. We ain't got that number. And we've taken that song a long time and made it our anthem. Paul A. Jenkins. I even put your bullshit-ass book up here. On my, you know what I mean?

Welcome to start with the facts. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. So tonight, the Sons will play OKC. Underdog has SGA at 31 and a half points. Do you have them higher, lower, Mace? Give them 40. Why just say 31, um, underdog?

I'm going higher. I'm going higher too. Okay. Chet is at 17 and a half points. Do you have them higher or lower cam? Lower. Yep, lower. Okay, and Dylan Brooks is at 18 and a half points.

Do you have him higher, lower, Mace? That's an interesting one because let me see. OKC. I'm going lower, lower. I'm going to hire Dylan Brooks. Been shooting the motherfucking rock, bro. He's becoming one of the best two-way players this year. In the NBA, I'm really shocked at how he's shooting the ball.

Phoenix looked like it's a really good fit for him. um and all this shit he'd been talking people are bringing up clips where i wasn't really aware of his college career how he was a scorer in college and they like cams yeah you know people get their role and play their position in NBA but he's been getting buckets and i was looking at his college highlights i'm like oh dylan bruce could get buckets and that's how he's looking in phoenix so i'm definitely going to go higher okay make sure you all download the underdog app and you can make your pigs too so we see now that a lot of athletes have have a platform. So Maurice, what do you think we gained and what did we lose from every athlete having their own platform,

whether it be podcast, social media, things of those natures? What's your thoughts on that? Yeah, I think the things you gain is from a financial standpoint, you know, athlete's ability to show their personality and make money. But I've gotten into a space where I'm kind of tired of hearing so many niggas try to push their own narrative. Some way I kind of missed the days of like where other people were, made the athlete popular and too many people just trying to be perfect or too many people trying to like just even the word narrative get on my fucking nurse or just everybody has a narrative and i just it's annoying you know what i'm saying like it's you all talking about um like it was the thing of beauty when like other people made you popular other people talked about you are

they found out the cool shit about you but now we just have like i don't know like catty-girlie-girlie like, you know, I just got to watch my words, but y'all know what I'm talking about just conversations that's a little bit like softish or like, I don't know, just like a lot of sensitive stuff that athletes always trying to defend like these nuance and pointless conversations. So I think it's good because you have athletes who work hard and their ability to make money and show personality, but I don't like everybody feeling like they have to push their brain. And I really sold the conversation from Michael Jordan because Michael Jordan had to sit down interview with NBC and he said that Michael Jordan didn't try to start the Jordan

brand he put in all the work and then out of the work came the brand and other people made his logo and all this other stuff but he said too many people lead with the brand first versus Lee what the work first and so that's where the question came from well you know what Mike I'm I mean more I'm happy you said this because I was about to give you all the credit you I was gonna say I couldn't have said it better Mo but it came from Mike it didn't come from you mode so i got to give the credit to mike that was that i wonder why i was going to agree with it so much but it came from title town what else can i say you know i don't care i can't feel's about

this you know you know i don't i don't care how he feels about this you know you say nothing yo it's just thing is crazy yo i'm just sitting here you act like moers ain't from title town Well, it's from Title Town, what are you talking about? He's first ballot, you know, he first ballot title town. I didn't say nothing, though. I'm sitting there waiting for my turn to go. Yeah, I just felt like you was going to line-step me. That's what I felt like you was going to line-step me, so.

Line-step in anticipation is crazy. That's why. I didn't even say nothing. Exactly what that is. That's why. I didn't even say that. Yeah, well, my bad. Yo, Mo, back to you.

I'm thinking about this, and when people got their own part. podcast. I'm yet to see a person that doesn't put their brand first, especially when they come to athletes. And it seemed like a lead there's such a decline in a robbery of the sport because the main thing that we actually are paying you the big bucks for, that's what we're not getting. We're getting the brand, and we're not paying for the brand. We're paying for the accolades that come through the sport, you know, from the tenacity, from the day-to-day work ethic, and when your brain is in two different places, it's proven to be too much for most athletes.

This was a great question, Mo, and a great topic. Because I'm torn with this. People, you guys, let's just go back in the past. A reporter says something bad about you, a newspaper reporter or a TV reporter. or a sports anchor or whatever. You had to wait to speak to another sports anchor to respond to him whenever you could get into another sports anchor. Now you could go right to your phone

and be like, fuck you, you're bugging, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. But sometime, back to you guys' point, it takes away from their focus on the sport if you're paying attention to what everybody's saying. When you sign up to be a public figure, whether you're an athlete entertainer, whatever you may be, you're going to be open for ridicule. And that's just the way it is.

Some ridicule is warranted. Some is un-called for. But when you're paying attention to it all the time, you're not focused on what you need to do. Then you have the situations where you say, okay, let's use Travis Kelsey, right? He signed a two-year deal, I believe, for $37 million, $47 million, $47 million,

an extension with the Chiefs this past off-season. But then you got a three-year deal for $100 million for your podcast. What is the main thing? We know what was the main thing, but now what is the main thing? Because now you're making double, even though you're probably going to split the money with your brother. Then you're making for playing football. It's a very thin line with this. But if you're doing what you're supposed to do on the quarter on the field and then you go to talk.

about it. Cool. I dig that. I don't have a problem with that. Like for instance, Draymond, he goes out whoever and plays wherever people say they like them, don't like him, hate him, whatever. He goes out and plays and plays hard. And then he goes and does his podcast, which is far with me. But then you got somebody like Paul George who does more podcasting than playing. I have a problem with that. So it's different scenarios for different people, my personal opinion, but it's a lot of money being thrown around for podcast podcast and then for sports. And sometimes niggas may be like, look,

I don't want to go to practice. I want to go talk about niggas. I can get the same money. You know what I'm saying? I seen Lou Williams one time talk. They was asking Lou Williams, and I felt that.

I felt his answer, right? They was asking Lou Williams, like, do y'all think NBA players are better than like N-1 streetball players? And Lou Williams' answers was, It was Lou Williams and a few other NBA names, but Lou Williams was like, hell yeah, what are you talking about?

We have to play basketball when we don't want to play basketball. That was his answer. Like, basically, niggas may have to go to practice and play games, and they don't even feel like it, but it's their obligation to do that. I'm like, yeah, I'm getting a hundred pocket. I'm not throwing a problem.

It's cold out. Andre Aiton said he got iced in the house. He couldn't go outside because there's too much ice around this house. Like, niggas, sometimes niggas don't want to get up and go do shit when you can just turn on your computer, turn on your laptop. Mo, you live real comfortable and nice in your studio,

which probably is in your house, right? Not that's at the office. Okay, the office, but you're in your own comfort. And you said, man, listen, even though you're in shaping on a nigga, I don't feel like lifting weights today. Fuck, I look like tackling the nigger this afternoon. I ain't with all that. Go grab me a quick $32,000 the night

and talk about what I see you doing on the Internet today. I'm just saying. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, especially when you say that he got $300 million, so football is no longer the main thing. $100 million for three years. Yeah, 100 million for three years. Football is no longer the main thing.

And it shows, that's what I'm trying to say. Look at the Chiefs. It's showing. You get the money. why go play why run through the middle pause and get hit to catch passes maybe that's why you're dropping the ball i don't know i will say i do think like not think because this is the discussion that we're having everything does point to money because even now just with like athletes and not even just football basketball but when it comes to like f1 and like just a lot of different sports

when it comes to marketing and like PR all these people are telling these athletes like we need you just some more personality. You need to go on podcast. You need to do this and you do that. And I think also on the other end, I would say it's more of a con because we're forcing and trying to see personalities out of people who don't really have a personality. And I think that it's okay. I just feel like when people see that something's pop in or see that it's a different lane, they feel they need to fit into that lane. And I think it's okay to also do your own thing if that's not for you. Because I also just feel like we get a surge. of opinions from people who are not opinionated. Like, these people do not have a stance on anything, but then see a stance from the internet and then they'll roll with it and run with it, and they're just spewing out opinions that they don't personally have,

or they're just being told what to do because it makes more money, or it gives them a second option to do something if this first option doesn't work out. And I just feel like we've kind of lost the plot of just, like, normal conversations. People are just looking for a viral take or, like, a viral conversation,

or an opportunity at something else that's going to bring more money. And it's like, we're getting it from people who don't necessarily, I think need to have opinions on things. Like, right now there's this thing that's kind of trying about like influencers because back in the days, I guess there was a time where influencers weren't really speaking. They would just post and they would look good. And people would be like, okay, this girl is pretty, but they didn't hear her mouth talk.

They didn't hear what she had to say. Now we're hearing what everybody has to say. And I think we don't. have to it's okay to just be mysterious it's okay to not have an opinion if you don't have one it's okay to just fall back but i think that that's the thing now so everybody feels the need to say something and i i i don't i don't like that i don't agree with it i think if you have one though go ahead and say something yeah maurice no you you said what i was trying to say in a more eloquent way but that's what i was saying that no everybody doesn't deserve an opinion not popular but

but everybody don't need to be talking. That's kind of what I said. I totally agree with both of y'all, but everything is about the money. Like, this is what I'm saying. Like, you know, I'm late to the party when it comes to see how niggas get money on the internet and everything else,

but I used to be like, yo, who the fuck is this nigga to be in his basement talking about a nigga all day, like four years ago? Like, why is he just everyday talking about the same four niggas? And I'm like, oh, niggas is getting paid from this. It all boils down to the money, my opinion. Like, this is how it goes for a heterosexual man outside of Mace

because he met his wife when he didn't have anything. And I don't know yet situation, bro. Niggas weren't money to shit on the old niggas that was saying they wasn't going to get money and drive through their hood and the fly shit. And be like, yo, y'all niggas was acting like it wasn't going to happen. And then you got the money to get the baddest bitches. And because you know the bad bitches

like cars and my jewelry and nice houses. I don't get jewelry for me no more. Like now I didn't know. I mean, now I do. The jewelry was to fuck me. My jewelry was to shit on these niggas and to pull these bitches. That was what it's for.

It's for the money. If you ain't in it for that, what you're in it for? Yeah. When you get older, you want financial security and to make sure your family is good and everything else. But that's what the money. If you ain't in it,

win what you in it for man what you playing for they can say what you playing if you like you said what you keep in school yeah I'm keeping score I want to know who winning yeah that's what I'm saying that's what the chicken is for when I grew up now that's right I remember one of my sisters told me she said me's everybody's about the money he said she said and even the women that tell you that not about the money those the one that are really about the money because they got a plan that you don't see that's about the money. Yeah, the girl told me it ain't all about winning.

And why you keep in school? Why they get to score if it ain't all about winning? Why every game you see on TV they keep in the score? I don't get it. Yeah, well they turn the clock off. Yeah. Oh, it ain't all about winning. What's they keeping the score for?

My whole niggas just keep playing and don't worry about what the score is if it ain't all about one. if it ain't all about wanting. I agree with you all about everybody don't need no opinion, but the money, look, man, niggas wanna show off when they're young. Like you said, I'm holding in a different place now

and I get jewelry to please myself, but nigger, I remember we get jewelry, nicks like, yo, the hos are gonna go crazy. Yo, that jewelry right there. Nah. Or would you be like, nah. You go, you get the car, you're like, kill these, niggas.

Yeah, you're killing. Yo, we get up town, niggas gonna fish, nigger. I think that pink range rover wasn't for me. I know what I was doing when I came through with the pink range. I see niggins faith like this. Yeah. A hot right, what up, yo? What up, Kim?

Right on my blog. I know that face. And then when I go drive downtown, oh my God, you got a pink range. Oh, it's pink inside. Yeah, come in. You like pink? Like papaya? Like papaya?

Like papaya? Yeah, well, I remember I told killer, I said, yo, I'm saving my, um, my ATM receipt. Who want to have an ATM war, you know? Yeah, man. Niggas is doing it for the show. Niggas is definitely for the show. Yeah, when you get older, you start thinking about different things, but I get it. I agree everybody don't need an opinion.

I definitely agree with that, but it's definitely a race. I still show off when I'm older. Yeah. I'm still do it. Yeah, you start to show off a little bit. You still show off, Mote? 100% the show is showing off one, niggas. I was that.

I was down. That's it to me. Hey, look, look, I do all that. Pull the rolls out, pull the Bentley out, walk around and shake, clean, all that, yeah. Now, you know what? Full-fledged nigger, but. Yeah, I had to think about it, killer.

I remember one time you said something to me, and I said, Lazarus, nigga. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, you know what's crazy is that I went out, this is about maybe two months ago, and we went to the club, and they was like, yo, Cam, oh, shit. Some chicks I know, they're like, y'all, I never seen you in jeans,

or should I just be seeing when you come in front? I said, I'm not getting dressed for Staten Mace, yo. I'm not. I'm not. I'm coming pajamas bottles off. I'm not getting dressed up for now. You're going somewhere. You throw it on, nigga.

You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying, it depends. That part. I do want to add, because, like, all great points. And I, like, I always have a slightly different opinion because I do agree, like, it is good. It's nice to show off. It's nice to have fun things.

But I also feel like, at the end of the day, you self-fulfillfulfile is like the most important thing like the money is great I totally agree like I understand that's a plus but it's like your purpose and your passions like that will overall everything in my opinion at the end of the day no because if it's not fulfilling you it's not cap it's if there's no fulfillment even if you have all the money in the world because every time I talk to people who make so much money like millionaires billion i mean millionaires billionaires all y'all it's always like the money is

great but also i'm going to do something that is fulfilling for me because i can do whatever i want to do i can go wherever i want to go but i still have to have my own purpose so both both things can be true that's fair yeah see the thing about it is this right and i can't speak for you stat this fulfilling for me. And I'm getting paid. And it ain't like I gotta go work for some nigga telling me like, yo, go pick up that crane and lift up these bricks.

Or yo, go sweep that up and make sure you don't get the mice shit behind the refrigerator and all this. Look, man, this is not a bad gig. And my life, thank God, not going on wood. Thanks, Betha, Dame, even though me and Dame don't speak no more. no more. All the people that help me get the way I'm at, I had a decent adult life, man. It's been

really, really good. You know, it's ups and downs, highs and lows, more highs and lows, but it's been a really great adult life. So I get where you're coming from stat, like, when you got to do stuff to fulfill you, but you talked about this yesterday. You could have been

on, Pete, on the public broadcast system telling the weather. Public broadcast. Fucking Shatting you guys. Why he'd line it up like like that. Like, I'm just saying. Like, incoming weather alert.

I did not say I was going to do all that. What would you have done? Just regular general reporting. What I'm not saying that you want to? But my opinion is this, and I can't speak. I'm just saying, I don't think you're getting invited to the Super Bowl with that job. I don't think you're going to the Jordan parties.

I don't think you're going to the NBA finals with that shit. I don't think that TikTok and Instagram is going to say, hey, let's get stat to tweet about this or do this. I don't think you get invited to all all the stuff you get invited to having that whatever you said you're going to do right no it's cap it's cap so but that's what i'm saying let me tell you how it's cap you know they can watch us so i got to let you know you're talking to cap lock p you know that right on your computer you got a whole shipping pee at the same time you can't pull that on me no for real

is that would you let me just ask you one question on on national TV yeah Would you like a raise? I mean, who doesn't want to raise? So then the money does matter? The money, I didn't say that the money, no, no, no, but that's not what I'm saying. I didn't say that the money, I didn't say that the money doesn't matter, but I said self-fulfillment is important because now I'm going to bring it back to what

Cam just said, because the perks are beautiful, right? But when I started my career, this was not being. the expectations that I had. Yeah. Like if you told me that I would be in this position between y'all two, living literally my best life. Yeah, that was crazy. Can I get motivational?

Yeah, go ahead. Living my best life. Shut of tears, that. This is not the expectation that I had. Like, I really did not imagine any of this. And keep it a hundred, not the cultural. Yeah. You put the work into it.

It isn't like you put the work in And secondly, nobody knew this show is going to be what it was. You took the time out from school. You came every day. You've seen a vision. You took the chance. You probably didn't even know me and Mace music that well. You had to do the Google search, everything else.

But you took the chance and you put the worker. But it's a great life. Of course. You didn't know a red man. Of course. You asked a question. Now I want to ask you out of question. Yeah.

Would you have met your boyfriend that you were now doing the job you got? I don't know. No. Nah. You would have been with your boyfriend from college or high school. I don't know. And that was not going to happen. We know that.

It's just saying. I be talking niggas, niggas met their families because of me, man. Yes? Oh, go. What were you saying? No, I'm done. Go ahead, Maurice. Is everybody a good question for me today?

No. No, you're just talking about it wrong. So sometimes. So people, like, they always compare, like, the guy with a bunch of money is miserable. And that's the wrong thing because I'm, I got, I got a bunch of money, but I got money. Yeah. That is not the truth. Niggas be, like, broke niggas talk about that.

Guys with money are happy. I'm telling you that. And life is much easier when you got a lot of money. But you can actually be doing the thing you're passionate about and make a bunch of money. I just don't like when people talk about them when they separate, as if, like, you're doing something to make money and you're not happy. Because all the stuff that I do to make money makes me happy. and then it allows me to do all this other cool shit like this show. That's what I'm talking about.

So don't separate the two. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, full circle. I keep that accountable because every now and then she flies, you know. No, I like to ask me questions because we literally all do think differently. So like that's why I like hearing. But it's like it all comes around full circle back to kind of the same thing. We have agreements at some point.

So it's pretty cool. Well, at the end of the day, I just like to say thank you for being a part of of the show, your contributions have been great. And like I said, you've seen the vision, because a lot of stuff that I try to do, you know, getting back with Mason, everything. I'm pretty sure he's had stuff that he's done in the past. You don't know if it's going to work or not.

You have no idea. And that's just a chance I'm willing to take when it comes to certain things, like, you know what I'm saying? So just talk both of you all, thank you, and thank you, Moe, and everybody else for being for being part of the show thanks i appreciate that and for y'all like thanks for believing in me because y'all can be like this girl here she's in school she don't know what but like y'all took a chance on me too so it's like i'm forever grateful and it's really dope to be up here because

we do have fun and we do make money and we do get to do what we want to do so it's lit up here okay that's crazy i i never heard cam say thank you yeah that's crazy that's a lot No, I mean, today it sounds sincere, you know? That's crazy. That's a lot. Now, that I will add, he does always say things. He's like, I really appreciate it. Thank you. Like, that's very... I'm mad, polite, and I'm mad, and I'm mad.

For real, I'm very polite, right here. I'm very considerate, like, I'm super duper making sure because I want to be treated like that. Yeah. Like so, I'm not. make sure I say thank you and somebody hold the door for me I'll say I'm one of them niggas because if I hold the door for somebody and they always say thank you I'd be like you welcome yo like I call niggas out yeah that is one thing I will say I know

you're joking but like to Cam's character too like he always will give like credit words do like that's something that like that he does do and then same for you like your appreciativeness for people so it's like that I will say regardless of how people feel. Yeah, well, thank you, Kim. Thank you, Mo, thank you, Statt. And thank you to all of the fans out there that watch it is what it is.

Make sure you subscribe and have a very, very happy holidays. See that part? That is all the time that we have for today. Maurice, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. And thank you, Nick. I was saying. Thank you, Nick.

Yeah, my, yeah. Sorry about that, yep. Dope. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. E!