IT IS WHAT IT IS - IS PUKA NACUA THE BEST WR IN THE NFL, GOOD VS. BAD PUBLICITY & RANDY MOSS' HALL OF FAME TAKE!

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

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It is what it is. I'm Treasur Wilson, aka Statt Baby, along with your host, Mace. Cam will be back, and today we are joined with our analysts, Arabia. Arabya. Hey, Stad. I'm good. How are you? Statt, I missed you.

Last episode, Mace, are you good? How you feel? I'm feeling good. It's cold out here, but, you know, it's cold out here for everybody. How you doing, Statt? I'm great. I'm not. Not as cold as you, but you bundled up and it looks smooth.

So we're rocking with it. Yeah, let's go. Yes. Okay, so we're actually going to start with some football. So Pooka Nakua is in talks for a contract extension with projections suggesting a deal that could make him become the highest paid wide receiver. So, Rayby, going to ask you first, do you think it's worth it? And then where is he on the rankings for you as far as wide receiver? Like where do you think he ranks at?

First of all, it's a no-brainer that it's worth it. He was a steal in the draft, but he's more than proven himself. And now you got to pay him. He led the league number one in the NFL in receptions, and he was second in receiving yards behind JSM by about 80 yards. So yeah, you got to pay Pooka Nakuwa off the stat sheet, because you know football isn't played on the stat sheet. He's good at everything.

So you have to pay the man. We don't know how long Matthew Stafford is going to be in the league. Hopefully for a while. a while. We'd like to see Matthew Savon in the league for a while, but we don't know how long he has left. He's getting up there in age. And whoever they have at the quarterback position, Pooka and Akua is just going to make them better. So as an organization, it would behoove them to pay Pooka Nakua. So that's just number one. As far as as ranking. So when I was at the Super Bowl, Media Row, like covering and asking all these people questions, I asked Jamar Chase and just a few different people. For receivers, one has to go. Chase, Justin Jefferson, Pooka Nakua, and J.S.N. And two people said Pooka Nakuwa. Stephen A. Smith got rid of Pooka Nakuwa and one other person. I don't remember who it is.

But, I mean, to me, Pooka Nakuwa is probably number two on that list of the four receivers that I just said. I'm putting Jemar Chase at number one. I mean, he's just that man. So I say Pooka Nakua is definitely top three. He might be number two on my list. Yeah, I was thinking on that list, Jefferson probably would have to go, but you know, who am I? I don't, they say I don't know enough of football.

I know Chase definitely is not going anywhere, whether you're from Ohio or not. And I would say when it comes to Pukkah, what do you mean by he can do everything? Does he park? Does he sell like hamburgers in the stadium? What do you mean by? He does everything. That's a great question. He does everything.

That means that his route running ability is great. His footwork is great. His speed is great. His catch radius is great. He has great hands. He's a hands catcher. He doesn't catch with his body. He has great vision.

He has great yards after reception. So as far as a wide receiver goes and the different things and skills that you would like to see out of your wide receiver, Pook and Akua pretty much checks all the boxes. Yeah, catch with his body was crazy. But these days I'm growing up, you know, but catch with his body was crazy. What do you think, Statt? Do you think catch with the body was crazy?

Or you're letting this slide pause? I feel like I let a lot of things slide pause. That's the thing about me. Because catch with his body, that's what he gotta do. He got to do what he got to do. Oh my goodness. Statt, Statt, your level of mediocracy what you're receiving when it comes to sports this year has been has been bar none i don't know

if you can go any lowest that with it's not mediocrisy i'm just part of that tic-tok era i think a little different that's all oh yeah you're part of the tic-tok era shout out to her CEO mccane right mccane my CEO yeah shout out to his CEO No, but I would say when it comes to Pooka Nacour, that he's definitely number two when they come to Y receivers, right? And I think they got a, not only should they pay him, they might need this, let me slow down, because I'm getting too excited about this pause.

I think when they come to Pook and Nacour, they definitely have to pay him. They might have to do one of those deals that they did with Kowah Lennett and found him some money outside of the football field because he's performed that well for this team, you know. Other than Matthew Stafford, there's been nobody that has done enough for this team. And they almost came this close to get into the Super Bowl. And if they were to win to the Super Bowl,

I have no choice but to say they would have won at all. You know, if they were to won that game, they would have won it all. So I think when it comes to the Rams, there's nobody else they can, they can afford to pay more than him. So with that being stated, they're going in the right direction. Okay. And then one quick thing I do want to bring up because I know we named Puka and I know we named Jammar, but Justin Jefferson did make a case for himself. So I know he was quoted saying that he still believes he is the number one wide receiver.

He said, I mean, how am I not? A lot of people based it off of the quarterback play, just different things. that really go into my position. Obviously, I've got to rely on and I got to depend on a lot of people in order for me to get that ball. If I don't have an elite quarterback that's throwing me the ball the entire year, then it's a little bit difficult to be in those conversations. But then overall, like you said, I think I'm number one. I think no one in this league can cover me man to man.

That's without a doubt. My confidence level will always be high and I always feel that I'm number one in my eyes. So, I mean, period, because you should always think that you're number one in your eyes. But what do you guys think about what Justin Jefferson had to say? Does that sway anything? You're still locked in all y'all's answers. Yeah, before Ray, there you go. Who are your four again?

Is Justin Jefferson? Who else? Chase? Justin Jefferson and J.S.N. Those four. Okay. Give me your ranking, one through four. Let me see who you're ranking one through four.

Okay. So based on this season, not overall, based on this season. I got to go, J.S.N., Puka, Jemar Chase, and Justin Jefferson in that order. But this goes to his point. Let's not forget who Justin Jefferson is only because the Vikings quarterback play has been shifty, because J.S.N had a Sam Darnold, who was really delivering the ball. And Puka had Matthew Stafford, and Jemar Chase had Joe Burrow,

even though Joe Burrow was injured at some times. But we can't discredit the receiver. that Justin Jefferson is because he can't throw it to himself. So I think he brings up an excellent point where if the quarterback play was better or at least more consistent, we definitely would see more production out of Justin Jefferson. Oh, I see what's going on. So y'all going new hotness because the Seahawks won and all. Now Jason is at the top.

This is crazy. Here's the thing, though, Mason. Now I got to quote you, though, because you know how it's always like, what have you done for me lately? That doesn't count in this situation? Yeah, you're right about this. So I'm just acknowledging it, you know? At least with me, I acknowledge it.

Everybody else act like they don't do it, but this proves that they does, you know, that they do. That's what I'm saying, you know, when I'm listening to you guys, you're definitely on new hotness. Now, JSN is a, before Jamar Chase. This is wow. This is wow. What's the question?

again before this. Yeah, basically, after hearing what Justin Jefferson had to say, he says, look, I think I'm number one. You have to base it off a quarterback play and all those things that come into play with it. Does that sway maybe your order or you're still kind of set on like Jamar Chase and Puka are at the top, even though like Arabia did quote JSN, but I'm curious on your thoughts. Mace.

No, I said I had Jefferson last. I did say this. I said this before you. the new hotness before you got Arabia in on this new hotness. I had J.S.N. as third, actually, I had them right behind Pooka Nacour, and I had Jamar Chase's number one. So I don't think many people would disagree with me. But he didn't sway me just because he pouted as a wide receiver. Wide receivers are always pounding, right? You go back to all you can go as far back as you want. They always think they

open, they always think they can catch anything anywhere like a cold. You know, this is just how a wide receiver thinks. They're wired that way. If narcissism was a position, pause, it would be wide receiver. Absolutely correct. Okay. So I know you're talking about wide receiver's pouten, and this can be interpreted any which way.

So there's a tweet actually from Puka. So after the Seahawks, one, he tweeted Sam Darnold with the laughing emoji. So then Seahawks linebacker, Ernest Jones, came to his QB's defense. And he said, ain't you at home? Goofy ass. So, Juan, Arabia, what do you think about Ernest coming to Sam Donald's defense? And then how do you feel about Puka's comment, given that obviously they were not in the Super Bowl? What do you think about what he had to say?

Well, I like that Ernest Jones came to Sam Donald's defense. That's his quarterback. That's his teammate. And, you know, sometimes you can't let people just say whatever online. So I like that he came to his quarterback's defense. Also, Pooka Nakua is on this crazy run of just saying things in the public and just saying things on interviews and this and that that are like politically incorrect or whatever. So and I think at one point I saw a video of Pukukua and he was drunk. I don't know what he was, but he was wasted getting into the truck.

So somebody needs to take that man's phone. Somebody needs to change the password, something. Whoever his PR person is, his agent, his manager, his girlfriend, his mother, his brother. Somebody needs to take Pooka Nakuwa's phone and get him some media. training. I don't know if players get the right PR training, media training, but he needs it because these last few months have not been good PR for Pooka and Nakua. And yeah, I think in general, it kind of, depending on the player, it could hurt your brand if you keep doing all these outlandish things and saying all these incorrect things.

But it depends on what kind of play you are. If you're Antonio Brown, if you're A, B, it's great for your brand because that is your brand. People expect you to be outlandish. People expect you to say those things. people love it but if you're more family oriented you have all these sponsors and stuff it could be bad for business so he just got to be careful yeah i think he's moving in a new direction if he's moving in a direction of becoming a bad boy of becoming outspoken you know you know a lot of people start good and they shift the bad you know and that and that becomes their new their new um image when

they when they make the transition when people go to how could i say it they're What do they call that, like a midlife crisis? I don't know if you could have one in football, but it seemed like he's going in that direction where he's just deciding to be something different right now. And I don't know what happened, if it happened in a football field, or if it happened at home.

But he's definitely slowly becoming a different person, and you said it. A lot of these things don't go with branding when it comes to sponsors. I remember I was telling Mo that he started, you know, trying to cuss like cam i said mo you remember you got sponsors right and he began to change up because you know what i was telling them was the true now when it comes to this seahawks team this is a part of why they won the championship they're playing as a collective unit and they're

not letting you violate nobody especially sam donnell like you said he comes to his defense and he's letting you know we're not tolerating that over here and i love when teams are like that It shows the unity and it shows the brotherhood that we're not going for it over here. And every time you do that, I think it makes even a player that you're protecting join more in with the force of the Seattle Seahawks. So I love. Yeah, Mays, that's such a great point. That is such a great point because this Ernest Jones tweet is just a microcosm of what the Seahawks defense was all season. They're going to move as a unit.

They're not letting nobody come and violate. They're called the dark side, so he ain't afraid to take it there with you. And that was an excellent point. And I think Pooka Nakua said, LOL Sam Darno, like the laughing emoji, because he's like, of all quarterbacks, you know, I have Matthew Stafford, the MVP quarterback, and Sam Darnold is the one who kind of moved on and won the Super Bowl. So it was definitely a direct dig at Sam Darnold because he feels like his quarterback should be the one up on that stage, but he's not.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's a beautiful thing when a quarterback wins that so many people have disregarded when it comes to Sam Donald, right? He's standing there like, yeah, you can say what you want, but I'm a champion. You can say what you want, but we want it all. You can say even like what Cam Newton normally says, he's a player manager. Is he a player manager? He got a Super Bowl ring.

Well, some more people need to play or manage than trying to go and do too much. When I think of all of the football players, especially at quarterback, that does it all, it doesn't seem like they ever really get there. When we're speaking about Josh Allen, when we're speaking about Lamar Jackson, right? These are guys that could do it all from A to Z,

pause, but they don't end up there. And then you got guys like, you know, the quarterback from San Francisco, then you got Sam Donald and they find themselves right there. So I don't know. Is you really that good if you don't ever make it? Are you really that good if you don't ever win? I don't come from that era.

I like people who actually win. Yeah, I think I think Cam Newton calls him game managers and all that. But Sam Donald is the only starting quarterback in NFL history to win a Super Bowl after being with five plus teams. So he got that trophy. when the other ones didn't. Yeah. Shout out to him.

It's trying to have a real conversation about San Darnell. Do you feel better that you are, that you are a superstar, but you never won versus being a game manager and you might have two Super Bowls, you know? Because I'd rather have them Super Bowls. Yeah. Yeah, I don't look at Matthew Stafford as a game manager. He's both. He's both.

He's a premier quarterback in. head quarterback and he got the ring. Okay. So I want to ask you a little bit more about branding because I think we're seeing a lot of in particular social media footage, especially from younger athletes because we brought a puka and there was that video of him pretty leg into the car. And I know Mace are saying his personality is changing even though I might have to argue that was always his personality. He's just feeling a little lit right now. So he's been a lot more comfortable showing it. And even seeing players like Cam Scataboo getting on Twitch and like we've just seen a lot of

just like showing personality and being vocal and for some people it's positive and some people it's negative but what do you guys think is the line between showing personality and not because it's kind of shown us a little bit more how those people are even though for some people they're like ugh it's making me not like this person and for some it is do you guys think it's more of a good thing or do you just think it's best to kind of be quiet until you're seeing some rings and some awards what do you think arabia i think no matter what you do if you're quiet or if you're vocal people are always going to have something to say because Michael Parsons had his podcast and people were like, oh, the Cowboys at the time, he was with the Cowboys are losing and he's focusing

all this time on his podcast and it's a distraction, whatever, whatever. But then at the same time, like if they're quiet, then it's like, oh, we never hear from him. He has no personality. He doesn't want to talk to the public. So either way, people are going to have something to say. I always, well, most of the time, I feel like it's a good thing that athletes have a voice. And I think this largely is increasing not just due to social media and internet publicity, but also to NIL and revenue sharing. And you may ask yourself what this has to do with athletes and social media. But for a long time in the NCAA, athletes were not allowed to have income. They weren't allowed to profit off of their name, image, and likeness. And now in the NCAA, things have changed dramatically. So now you

see them being able to, you know, make money off of YouTube, make money off a Twitch and make money off a t-shirts or whatever. So they're like, okay, this is another source of income. I can get publicity. I can get my name out there. I can get some money. So that's just increasing all these other things. So I think it can be a good thing. I think the line is when you're being disrespectful or being offensive. But otherwise, if people don't like you, I mean, that's just something you have to take on the chin, Paul, because no matter what you do, people, some people aren't going to like you. Yeah, I like that take of Rabia. I actually like that. I think when you go too far is when you mess up the bag.

I'll use the bag as the line. When what you're saying begin to affect that bag, that's when you got to decide, are you saying the right things, right? And now I don't say this for me. I say this for other people. Like me, I believe I'm going to say what I'm going to say.

But I think when it come to other athletes, especially on the collegiate level, when it starts to affect the money that you can make and the money that you are making. Those are two different incomes right there. It's future income and steady income. When you're affected steady income and future income, you got to consider what you're doing because that's the whole purpose of you having a brand, it's to make money off the brand. So when that brand becomes compromised through the words you're speaking, unless it's going

to lead you to some unforeseen goal, we definitely have to consider that. And I'm I would also go as far as saying that when it comes to this, this topic, right? When it comes to NILs, just think of all of these years that people haven't been getting money, right? Arabia and Statt. Think of all of the great athletes that could never sell their jersey. I look at this like when weed became legal. Everybody that has a weed charge should have those charges removed. or banished or expunge whatever word you want to use because now this is legal i think the same

thing is true with the nils if we're now going to let people have money let's stack house on his jersey let michael jordan on that jersey let you know let let um fad five get that get their banner put back up if that's the case if we're going to let everybody have n ios because we took away a lot of championships we took a lot of highsmans who was that reggie bush lost the hisman because of this we might need to let reggie bush have his hisman in so we might right so let me ask all this before we move on i'm just curious because it's also like arabia what do you think about that let's let's ask arabia what do you think about that now that now that the we can make money off of as college athletes,

how do we justify that with the people who had their banner sticking down? So just FAPBOR. I mean, that's... How do we justify that? With our Reggie Bush, Hizman, being taken. That's the thing about being in the forefront

and paving the way is that sometimes you don't benefit directly from the thing you're paving the way from. So if you're like, I'll use the music industry. If you're one of the first to, you know, create a certain type of music, but the industry doesn't really recognize it yet as a really legitimate genre or art or whatever. Like, you're not getting the awards, but you pave the way for the next generation or the generation after that to start to get recognized. So unfortunately, the Reggie Bush's,

the Maurice Clarets, all these people who weren't benefiting from it, they paved the way. And, you know, these people aren't going to look back and give them back pay. at all just because you know they're not going to do that but i think you know legally they should because at this point they're acknowledging that athletes should get paid for the name image and likeness and those guys didn't that's how i feel stat that's exactly how i felt i started the flashy now everybody's flashy the two watches the two earrings i paid the price for is that yeah when they didn't know what it was they thought that was weird that you would put diamonds in that whole watch.

Yeah. Now everybody does it. I'm the Reggie Bush of my era. Yeah. A pioneer. But you walked so everybody else could run, literally. Yeah, the singing on the raps. They said that was soft.

Now everybody does it. I need back pay. Pause. I gotta be paid. Maybe they'll figure it out. But you know, you know people, we stingy. So we'll see what can come out of it. But they gotta know where it came from.

So real quick before I move on to this next question, just because I also feel like this is all around, even just good advice for people getting to the industry or people becoming athletes or whatever career that they wanna start. Do you guys see all publicity as good publicity or no? Just curious. Definitely not.

No. So I'm still very new to all this and I'm still learning. But one thing that I'm learning is to compartmentalize. And Arabia, it is what it is, Arabia, is way different than three-letter network Arabia, which is different than all 32 Arabia. Like, these are three different Arabias, depending on what platform I'm from. And I'm learning how to separate them because there's some really big deals that are currently on the table for me. But one thing they pointed out was that the brands are more conservative and family-oriented, and sometimes I be

Island. Sometimes I cross over when I shouldn't be crossing over. So I just got to keep them separate so that, you know, one is over there. One is over there. So not all publicity is good publicity when is messing with the opportunities. Yeah. Mason, when the money's on the line, it's like, hold up. P.G. Arabia. From the DMV. PG Arabia. They want P.G. Arabia. That's crazy because I'm from D.C. What I'm sorry, Mourin, P.G. Arabia. All right. Listen, that's a great play on words.

That's exactly what it is. I was hoping you could go into it, but you shouldn't. This is what I tell Cam when we're off the air. I say, Cam, listen, Arabia, thank you. I'm gonna send you a gift. Maybe not palm trees, but I'm gonna sing yourself. Yeah. It is not coming.

I never go see that, guess. Stad, there's more, wait till you see what I've done for Maurice. Well, I can't wait. I'm excited. I'm very excited. Everybody online, I'm glad you guys have made a fool of yourselves. When you see what I've done for Mo, you're gonna go, wow. Okay.

Mesa, I respect it. I respect it. I respect it. But what was the question again about? Yeah, do you see all publicity is good publicity? Yes, all publicity is not good publicity. Like you making the internet, because poop is on the back of your skirt

is not good, even though you're viral everywhere, right? This is how people think. People think because you're viral one place that this is actually a good thing. It depends on what you're viral for. Like if you're viral for the truth, that's good. If you're viral for things that go with your brand, that's good. But if you're viral for something that's going to affect your steady income or your future income,

steady opportunities or your future opportunities, that's not good. And I think people don't know the difference. They think all publicity is good publicity. So I just want to be on the other side really quick because I just think it's good conversation and I'm just curious. I know you guys are saying all isn't good, but what about somebody who says, well, Kim Kardashian took an explicit situation and turned it to a billion dollar company? Why can't we capitalize a quote unquote bad publicity and turn it around? Let me let me go first, pause on this. um arabia it was good because she was going to sell sexy in the future if she was going to sell

pure in the future it would be bad it depends on like i said steady income and future income yeah her laying on our belly you know doing a bad job moaning that was listen i was sorry yeah you know You know, here or there, you know. It didn't look fire. I don't know. Most guys saw it, Arabia. She can't say anything. She's PG-Arabia.

She can't speak on this. I got to lead the charge on this, right? Because it was such a bad job, but it was towards being sexy in the future. This is why she could sell skims. This is why she could sell. the sexy looks and all of the things that go with sex appeal because it went with the future brand so this was not something that didn't go with the future brand it actually went with the brand

yeah it's so crazy you know at that time she was a token white girl she's not a token white girl today but you know guys always you know is you know you know see that's pg yeah i'm protective future earnings and steady income. Future earnings is crazy, but yeah, I might compromise my future earnings by saying it's crazy that we say Kim Kardashian because we just talked about Reggie Bush. And I was literally about to say we need to get Reggie Bush more flowers than just the Heisman because Reggie Bush might be the godfather of modern reality television. because without Reggie Bush, is there a Kim Kardashian? And without that, like, does she make the next leap to Ray J? And without a Ray J, we don't get the tape.

And without the tape, we don't get the Kardashians. So Reggie Bush really started the modern wave of reality television, if you want to go back to Inception, for real. Back when he was at USC, Natalie Nunn. So come on, we got to give these, at least some of the props for the way they put these women on in industries. Yeah. Reggie Bush need his back paid. Reggie Bush, Reggie Bush need his 5%.

Reggie Bush started skims if you really think about it. He was the actual OG. He needs his percentage. Reparations for Reggie Bush. Come on now. Reparations for Reggie Bush. I'm in, I'm supporting that. Statt, you supporting it? We're trying to give everybody the reparations.

This black history. I support that message. I support that message, reverations for Reggie Bush. Yeah, we don't get Kanye without Reggie Bush. We don't get, we don't get, we don't get, we don't get Travis Scott. We don't exactly. Exactly. I was going to say the same thing, we don't get Travis Scott.

We don't get Humphrey. We don't get Lamar Odom. We don't get Tristan. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. He said, I don't know about that. too far now you're talking about Chris Albrey and Lamar now she's going to be crazy I mean hey we got to pull the reins back okay okay my bad I went so maybe not that hold on yeah we don't get the concert you don't get that concert

you don't get that concert without Reggie Bush that yeah you don't get your sneakers You don't get Cactus Jack without Reggie Bush. Yeah. So I like, I like where we're going today. I like the way we're going today. We're shining light on things we need to shine light on. Yeah. I like this today.

It's all connected though. Like it might not seem like it, but that's why I started with Puka and then publicity and where it's going and then the OGs versus the new hotness. Like it's all connected. So that's why I'm like the root of it is publicity. Is it good? or is it or is it not? But we've seen some people capitalize off of it.

Some people don't, but you're saying for certain people, it doesn't work. And for some, it might to each their own. No, we're saying, we're saying if it goes with your future earnings and steady income, then it works. No matter if it's horrible, but it goes with your future earnings. Like if you have a plan in the future to be more horrible than this, then this today present day horribleness works because you plan on being more horrible in the future. That's what I'm saying. What do you think about that, Arabia?

Hey, I completely agree because like you said, the sex tape did, can I say sex? I don't know if I could say that. The tape did great for Kim because it was, okay, it did great for Kim because it was already in line for her brand. So, you know, she was going to be selling it in one way or another. anyway. So it was a great launch event for her career. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. I love it. I love it. Beautiful. It's beautiful. Lovely. Wow. Pioneers all in different fields. We've covered it all. Okay. Yeah. That's that on the left side. You got to, you got to pull your head down. I don't know how they said.

Thanks for looking out. Now you say you just got to go. Yeah. Yeah. appreciate it. That's for your future earnings. That's for your future earnings. He said you're put together. You got to stay put together. I appreciate it, Mace.

Thanks for looking out. Yeah. Okay. So should the Hall of Fame voting process change, we will discuss what Randy Moss had to say after the break. She called this thing about toxic. Is it counting. Got you feeling like a option.

Maybe I'm my own problem big. Welcome back. So we're actually going to do the all Picks. But she ain't really thinking about it. She just let her win and it's going to win. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day.

So we're actually going to do the all-star game picks. It's going to be team stripes versus team world. So Team USA actually has two teams, team stripes, team stars versus team world. But we're going to do team stripes. versus world. So they've got Kevin Durant at four and a half points. Do you have them higher, lower mace? This is disrespectful. I'm really not liking this. Whoever gave these kind of numbers unless Kevin Durant is hurt, this is disrespectful and I don't like it. Of course, Kevin Durant is going to have more than four points. But if he's hurt and underdog knows

something that we don't know, if they got sources, long as they, Tibetan is legal, I'm going to go with Kevin Durant getting higher. Okay. And matter of fact, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let Arabia does cam part so she can mess it up. Go ahead, Arabia. Wow. First of all, you had no faith in me and that is so crazy.

Just off the break is ridiculous. But also, you said four and a half point, yes. Yes. Okay, so I don't know if this is indicative of underdog assuming that these stars aren't gonna really try too hard or try to get injured or what the analysis is here. Because you know, first of all, all star games and slam duck contests

and all these extracurricular things already don't garner very much attention. So the fact that they're in it, they might not go super hard, but even if Kevin Durant isn't going super hard, he gonna score more than four and a half points. So I feel like, like May said, they know something we don't,

either because of injury or effort, I'm going higher. Okay. So if y'all thought the KD points was crazy, wait till you see Yokic. So underdog has Yokic at four and a half points as well. Mace. Hey, I think I see what they're doing. They're thinking because this is in L.A.,

the strand of weed is probably crazy. They're thinking these guys is going to be high, I guess. I guess that's what they're thinking right now. There's no way they can say that Kevin Durant is going to have four points and then come back with the fact that they think Joker is going to have four points unless they believe that it's just going to be a contact or something that they're going to catch in L.A. I don't see why they keep saying four points unless they're injured.

This is weird. Okay. I'm going higher. I'm going higher. Okay. Yeah, I got to say higher. too. I mean, I don't understand if, again, they're assuming that these big name players aren't going to really put in a lot of effort. They're just going to go out there, have a good time,

go out there so they don't get fine, but I got to go higher. Okay. And last but not least, we've got Wemby at eight and a half points. Do you have them higher, lower Mace? I'm going to go lower. I think as they doing this third the third time, unless this is just a super trick, or they got an underdog. got a bunch of money they want to give away. They just want people to win. Maybe that's what they're doing. Maybe they're letting people win money so they could figure they're getting easier

bets with underdog. I'm going higher. I'm going higher. I'm going higher. That's it. They're giving the money away. Okay. So I'm glad that you said higher because I wanted to say lower and I didn't want to

copy off for you. Three in a row with them giving such low, like, like just props. I gotta say, I'm gonna go lower. Okay. Make sure you all down on the underdog app and you can make your picks too. So Mace, just if Arabia's picks are all correct,

can we have a bet? Can we do something for that? Does she get a tree? Like, she's actually, I'm happy. She's messing Cam rating up and she's messing cold cam. That's crazy. I'm for it. I'm supporting it.

Wow. I'm supporting it. I'm behind it. You know, you never know. I'm standing side by side with them. I got to try. We need to follow up. Yes, we do.

That's what I'm like, just what if they're all correct, then what? If it's all correct, if it's all correct, then I'm going to host all 32. See, that laugh was loud. That laugh was loud. I'm coming on all 32 to be the host. Special edition. All right, bet. Bet.

Bet. Post this clip. Post this clip. I'm your host for today. Yep. Send me my script. Right. Yep.

Send me my script. I like you better off script. I like you better off script. I'm going to just let you freestyle. Yeah. Oh, crazy. Okay. So we'll see if that happens. We'll see if that happens.

It is. But would love to see it. Okay. So we got a quote from Randy Moss. So after the Hall of Fame votes were revealed and we saw that Bill Belichick got snubbed, Randy Moss said, one thing about not electing Robert Kraft, not electing Bill Belichick, the one thing that I would talk to all the voters about, I really believe as a football player, if you didn't play it, if you didn't coach it, you shouldn't have a vote. I don't care who you are. I don't care how you feel about it.

Like I said, I don't want to take no shine away from the guys elected today, and that's it for me. Arabia, what's your opinion on what Randy Moss had to say? I 100% agree with Randy Moss. I think that if you have never written a song, been an engineer, produced a song, you shouldn't be able to vote for who gets a Grammy. I think if you've never written a script or acted or produced or directed a film, you shouldn't vote on who gets a Grammy.

Oscar. I think if you've never played football at the highest level, who are you to deny someone into the Hall of Fame when you've never set foot on that field? And to take it a step further, I also think you shouldn't be able to coach if you've never played the game. There are a few coaches who will, I mean, there's so there's a thing that's happening in the league right now. It seems like a lot of guys are walking down and playing catch man instead of getting control at the line. And they're letting guys get free release. And I feel like it's a lot of times part of this defensive philosophy to keep everything in front of you and play soft, but everybody can't do that. And sometimes I feel like these defensive philosophies come from coaches who don't know exactly

what it's like to be out there. So I think between voting and coaching, you have to have played the game at the highest level to do that. And this is coming from someone who loves analyzing the game, but I have so much respect for the game and its players that I would never have the hubris or ego to say that I'm in a position to vote for guys getting a gold jacket or not. So I think we just got to check ourselves and say that Hall of Fame voting and things like that have to be for the players by the players. I got a I got a spin on that when I got a rock side to side when I think of that Just think of how many people in the NBA that coach that never played There's there's even people who have won the championship that have

never played. So when we make these, these comments, these are really interesting comments. And you have the right to feel the way you feel, Arabia. But what, what do we say to people like that that have won an NBA championship and they have never played that game on that level? Where do they get that knowledge from? I think it's one thing to analyze the game and know the game. And I can't. can't speak to basketball, but I know in football, which is a crazy context sport, then, and the way that you see the field is different than the way that you would see the court. I think the vision that you would have as on the sideline as a basketball coach is different than the vision you would have as a football coach on the sideline. Like it's just too totally, it's like kind of apples and oranges.

So again, I can't speak to basketball, but as far as football is concerned, I feel like you shouldn't be voting or coaching if you didn't play the game. highest level. That's really interesting. Well, Mace, what do you think? You know, when white people say that's really interesting, that means you don't agree. Yeah, yeah. But I like that concept.

I just want to study that more because when I talk, I like to know what I'm talking about. So I'm going to take what you're saying on this. I'm gonna take what you're saying because I do yeah and again it's different. Yeah, I just think and again, I'm someone who's never I've never played football. I was taught X's and knows by my mentor who won a Super Bowl and director at IMG Academy and offensive line coach all that type of stuff but I would never sit up here and tell someone who actually did play the game what to do in the game or you know,

know what I mean? That's why I reference a chant Bailey. That's why I reference Matthew G. That's why I have all these people around me to make sure I'm surrounding myself with people who actually do have that firsthand experience. So, you know, you can analyze the game and be part of the game all you want to, but ultimately it's just, you know, it's levels. So really quick. So you could tell them they're doing a bad job on the basis of what, if you can't really speak into the game, how can you really know they're doing a bad job? when you've never played you can speak you can speak to them doing a good job or a bad job I just wouldn't tell them what to do like I'm not in it put imagine me in a locker room

being like okay this is what you need to do that like like that's different than being like okay after watching this game he did this well he did he didn't do this well whatever but actually giving them direction and and voting like those are two totally different things versus analyzing the game. That's where I'm lost that. I'm lost because if you're saying to say that you could tell somebody, listen to this, that when they've done a good job or they've done a bad job, then you can vote on if they will be Hall of Fame because Hall of Fame is based on, did you do a good enough job?

Is that correct or no? I think that the Hall of Fame should be based on players. who know what it's like to be out there, week after week, not even just because there are certain things that as an NFL analyst, I don't see all these players week so I don't see them Monday through Saturday. I see them on Sunday for those three, two, three hours during the game.

I think it should be based on players who know what that's like. I see it from my son's father, but I don't, I can't speak to that firsthand experience to know, wow, this person may not have hit all these statistical categories, but it's impressive what they did, because at this time, this team was dealing with this, the coach was this, the facility was this, the weather was that, like culture and experience of the NFL, I think should play a huge part into this voting as well.

You can't just look at statistics, you can't just look at numbers and look at games. There's so much more that goes into this game, and I feel like knowing all that firsthand is invaluable as far as voting with these gold jackets. Okay. I never thought I'll use this, but I'm going to agree. I'm gonna agree. I kind of disagree. Not about voting and that's why.

No, because- That's why I just played good cop. No, you know what's funny? It's like I disagree because of what you just brought up, Mace. Cause that's why I was like that to me, no, because I'm like to me, I actually feel like that's a good point because I do think for voting to a certain extent, it's like, it's more of like a respect thing. Same way that like I feel like some players don't want certain coaches.

coaching them if they felt like they haven't won anything. But also at the same time, like, when you say certain coaches and they should play at the highest level and then Mace does bring up something like basketball. I'm like Eric Spolster never played in the NBA, but he got two rings. And then like Bill Belichick never, I don't even think he played in the NFL. He only played the college level. So when you see those things, it's like, is that an anomaly or should that be the standard? Like, I don't know. I feel like it's kind of hard to put like a label on. And he helped create America's team and he never played. So how do we justify that?

That's just a question. I'm not arguing. I just want to know. No, great question. And when I say play at the highest level, maybe not NFL, but you definitely would have had to play the game. I'll give you an example. I have a son, right?

I can tell my son you're not being responsible. You're not doing these things that a young man can do. but I feel like I can't teach my son how to be a man. Only a man can do that. I can point out the things that he's doing well and that he's not doing well. I can correct him and be like, hey, I don't like that you're not taking out the trash.

I don't like that you're rolling your eyes when you go upstairs. I don't like that you're not cleaning your room or making your bed. But at the end of the day, only a man can teach him how to be a man. So I can analyze what he's doing but to actually tell him the basis of like the core of why he's doing what he's doing, I can't do that. I love that.

I love that statement because I use that a lot. Only a man can teach a boy how to be a man. So I like that because you're basically saying everybody that haven't played are not men. I love that. I love that. That's not what I'm saying. That's what I got from it. That's what I heard.

That's not what I'm saying. Let's go, Rabia. I love those times. Welcome to my side of sport. When you say whatever the hell you feel like it. Welcome on this time, Raymia. I said, welcome. Okay, that was a good conversation though.

We all had different perspectives, and I like hearing kind of everybody's mind. So that was good. Okay, so she's basically saying if you haven't played, you're not a man and you should have nothing to say in the words of Arabia. I did not say that. No, I didn't say that. I did not say that at all. That is funny. Okay.

So moving along, an unnamed NFL GM relayed the news to a longtime NFL reporter that Max Crosby has no intentions of playing for the Raiders again. So obviously some very strong words, especially because I feel like in the media we've heard otherwise from Max Crosby, but maybe it's about that time. Things are shifting. Arabia, what do you think of Max's situation? And do you think it's time for him to look elsewhere? Do you think maybe there's some hope for the Raiders? They've got a lot coming. That could be exciting.

There are a few reasons why a lot of people have been garnering a lot of attention to this trade situation. Number one, the Raiders GM, John Spitech was asked if Max Carsby was untouchable. And all he said in response to that was, I love Max. He embodies everything that a Raider is. So people are kind of reading into that and being like, well, he kind of kept that open. He didn't say, no, Max Crosby isn't untouchable. He just said, I love Max. So people said the GM's response to that and kind of keeping things open.

Another thing is Max Crosby said that his priority is playing meaningful football. That doesn't sound like playing for the Raiders. The Raiders haven't been played meaningful football in a while, especially over the last couple seasons. Another thing is if the Raiders are looking to really rebuild and do this over, like this huge overhaul with their team, they have a new head coach, new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator, number one overall pick.

They could plug a lot of holes with the trade capital that they can get with a Max Crosby. Now, whoever they get in return, is that person going to be immediately impactful like a Max Crosby? Probably not because Max Crosby's ceiling is so high. But it could eventually pay off in the long. long term. And then also Max Crosby was upset at the end of last season when the Raiders shut him down and said that he couldn't play. I was on the Raiders side on that because they weren't playing for anything and he was dealing with an injury. So there are a few things that people are pointing at. But at the end of the day, I think Max Crosby, Miles Garrett, T.J. Watt, like these edge rushers deserve to be on teams that are contenders because I want to see these guys deep in the playoffs. So selfishly, I want to see Max Crosby go somewhere so we can see him make a deep playoff run. I think what they said was exactly what they were supposed to say. They didn't say anything that made them look like they will be hypocritical in the future, but they also didn't say anything to slander this player.

So I think when these type of things are stated, this is exactly what we're talking about. It doesn't affect your steady income, and it's not going to affect your future earners. That was exactly the way you play it. I don't know if they call that politically correct, but he said what needed to be said. He said he embodies the culture, which says he's speaking well of the player and saying that this person should be a raider.

If we want anybody to be a raider, this is the level of productivity, and this is the level of moxie we expect from our players. I'm taking on a little Michael Irvin right now. But he's saying, but also we're leaving the window wide open pause for if somebody got a brilliant trade. You don't lower a guy's stock while you're trying to trade them. That's just trade one-on-one. I don't see why teams sit players down and say, oh, you got a bad attitude, and then try to trade them.

But if you say, this guy is brilliant, this guy is, he embodies the rate of way. somebody said yeah well how much do you want for them and you can get the max from that kind of marketing share so i i appreciate that so just curious because we've seen specifically in basketball like trades happen that we never would have expected to happen so i guess across all sports and mainly NFL NBA do you guys think there are some players who are truly untouchable like they should never like be traded or do you think like at this point if it needs to happen it needs to happen i thought it was insane no no you can go ahead miss go ahead yeah i think when it comes to the NBA every player is tradable right is just at different times in their career remember this and remember

i told you this every player is tradable you better believe we're coming into the time where they'll trade LeBron. We never thought we'll see LeBron get traded. We're coming up on a time where that could potentially happen, right? If the, if the Lakers are thinking, oh, he want to go to another team, then they'll, they'll pay, they'll first lock them in and contract and then trade that contract. Why? So they can get something meaningful back for him. I think that time of thinking, the joker is not tradable. Not now, but in the future he will be. Stefan Curry is not tradable.

Not now. But the way that Golden State front office looks like, it looked like they'll trade Steve Kerr next year. If they want to, this is just the type of climate that we're in. And I like that climate. I like when players are movable because it makes players play. I think when players start getting this no trade clause, then they don't really have to perform because they, they, they, they, they, they, they don't, they know they can't be traded without their consent. We saw that with Bradley Bill. We saw that in Phoenix. That was a different Bradley bill. No, no, no, no shot against the DMV. I know he used to play at Washington. I know we got Arabia on here, but you PG-13 now. I'm not as scared no more.

That's crazy because I'm from D.C. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. So I think like every player is tradable, period. It's just whether it's a good idea or not. There are some guys who, when they're in your building, you don't let them go. I thought it was crazy that the Patriots let Tom Brady walk out of that building.

Like for me, it's what do you want? What can we do? Is it a money issue? Is it a coaching issue? Is it a front office issue? Is it like, what can we do? Ultimately, if that person wants to leave, they want to leave for whatever reason it is.

But certain guys, when they're in the building, you gotta take care of them. An example for the commanders is Tressway. And I know he's not this crazy skill position, a quarterback or wide receiver or whatever, but for a long time, he's been our best, most reliable player year after year. We signed him to a little one year extension.

But for me, it's like, you gotta take care of him and make sure he don't leave that building. So everybody is sure. tradable. It's just whether it's a good idea for you to let that person leave the building. Yeah, I like that. What can we do to keep you around? People have lost that mentality of working and making sure they appease the people who brought all of the people into the stadium. I think they're definitely losing that. Yeah. Yeah. And you don't recognize how fortunate you are until you got somebody that doesn't do that.

And that's in all genres, that's in all levels of sports, and all levels of entertainment. Sometimes you just don't know what you have until you're dealing with something else. And you're like, wow, that person was really gifted. Yeah. Yeah. All good points.

But y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. Arabia, it was a pleasure to have you on the show again. Thank you so much for a happy. having me I really appreciate it it's been fun yes and remember to use cold cam for my underdog picks word some mother yeah sure you uh watch out for my next yeah make sure you watch out for my next freestyle i should have wore my suit and my tie if i knew i was being game today but yeah so all my females out there make sure my stuff is ready when i get home and don't talk to me much don't bother me and yeah have the roles right

ready when I get up out of here. That part. And if Cam's picks are correct, we're expecting a Ms. Cammy on all 32, so. Yeah, all 32. Everybody in all 32, look forward. Look forward to me being there if she wins. We gotta see though.

Yes. We got to see. We got to see. And listen, I'm gonna be very unscripted. I'm gonna keep my side of the bargain. And I like I like the show because I don't even have to wear a suit. I could come in there and be myself. I really enjoy that that part put me down.

Exactly. Or 32 that part I like PG 30. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know which Arabia I like. I like the other Arabia. Then I like PG. PG is growing up.

It's growing. Which one is PG 13. Is that the one that's like safe or is that the one that's kind of more out there? PG-13 is safe. They gotta be for kids. That's why it's 13. Yeah, no, I know what the rating PG-13 is. So you like safe Arabia. Okay, okay. Well, he's on the fence. No, no, I'm saying I'm warming up to it. I'm saying this is just my first time being around PG-13. So I'm warming up to it. You think this is what Paul George was doing when he, when he, when he, um, pick number 13, PG-13.

13. That was that was kind of cool. Good branding. I didn't even think of that. It's all connected. That's what we were saying. It's all connected. We just came full circle. We know we want to him. Yeah. He was one. Hilarious. Okay. Well, thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is.