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Episode Date: November 9, 2023

Cam'ron, Ma$e & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one but this time joined by Wallo and Gillie from Million Dollars Worth Of Game! ***NEW MERCH** Shop the Come And Talk 2 Me Store....https://comeandtalk2me.com  Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $100 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson.

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aka Stat Baby along with your host Cam and Mace. What's going on? You good? How you doing? You alright? Yeah, nigga. I'm good, nigga. Fuck you. You've been taking P94. What's it called? P94 and you feeling

yourself cause you lost three pounds the fit is back out you cleaned your jewelry you feeling yourself you didn't even take your stick off your hat you feeling yourself whatever that what is it P91 P98 alright cool

I'm gonna go get me some of that shit cause you the attitude been a little different the last week or so. Today is a very special episode. We are joined by two special guests, Gilly and Wallo. How are y'all doing today? We're chilling, man. Outstanding. That's my John. Outstanding. Go away, John. You know what I mean? So, yo, listen, let's not even play no games

state property major figures who's better major figures why would you say that I would not say that what you mean I'm not saying that you're wrong what's the reasoning behind it I mean it's the figures

I was in the figures so you're saying they had the figures y'all guys had the figures and they didn't no I ain't saying that I'm saying that we was major figures I was in the figures so naturally I feel as though of course we was better

what would you say Wallo did at? why did you say state property is better? even though you know cause he missed the boat he wasn't there he ain't got no dick sucks Even though, you know Cause he missed the boot He wasn't there He wasn't there You know, I was here You know, so that's a little He ain't got no dick sucks

He ain't He wasn't there, you know what I mean? Well, I don't know if he might have He fucking He fucking got it You know what I mean? You know what I mean, man? So, so is it true

That Cause I know y'all Y'all are cousins And y'all play around a lot And everything And I be wanting to know Some of these games Some of it not But D used to front So is it true that, because I know y'all are cousins and y'all play around a lot and everything, and I'd be wanting to know if some of it is game, some of it not, but do you used to front for your studio time, Marlo? Did you used to pay for it?

Fuck no. You didn't pay for no fucking, you never paid for no studio time when I took you to Peanut Joint. Nigga, we ain't never had to pay, fuck is you talking about? Yes, we did. I was giving him a couple. We was at B the third floor. I'm buying him food.

Right above his fucking mama fucking bedroom. I'm buying him food, giving him bags of weed and shit. Fuck you didn't have a place to go to. Who the fuck We was at Vita, third floor, right above his fucking mom and fucking bedroom. I'm buying him food, giving him bags of weed and shit. Fuck you, then I was pissed. Who the fuck he wasn't? You lying, man.

You're still under contract. Fuck you, You're like, get the fuck out of here. I was your first manager. Who the fuck you was? First of all, he ain't got a little cousin.

Yeah, I'm like, yo, come on, man, we can go to the studio. Because he grew up a rapper. It don't matter.

I didn't grow up a fucking rapper. I had to do that show. That block party I did for free. Okay, see, listen. I got paid. Okay, let me just old fucking rapper. I had to do that show. That block party I did for free. I got paid, nigga. Okay, let me just tell you the real reason why because I didn't want to rap.

I'm like, you tripping, man. I ain't with that shit. Right. Like, the real reason why he wanted me to rap so bad is because it was a group

in Philly called Ram Squad, right? I know. I remember Ram Squad. And he wanted to do a song. Was that a choreographed number? Yeah, yeah. He wanted to do a song. Was that a choreogic number? Yeah, yeah. He wanted to do a song with them niggas,

and they told him, beat it. He got me. He came and got me. That was it. I'm going to tell you what happened. You got to write it. I'm going to tell you what happened. So I go to Tommy.

I go to Tommy because that was my man, man, man. Rest in peace, Taji. Man, man. That was his brother. I was like, yo, man, what's up? We going to get on this? You going to put us on the track? He kept spinning me.

I'm like oh man so I said kill Gil yo on some real shit we better than these niggas they not even talking they not talking that fly shit we talking

I said come on we gonna start this group I said we gonna name the major figures this is the third he like yeah that's cool so I go with my man Peanut

me and Gil going to the studio Gil rapping I'm rapping we doing our thing I'm like man we gonna kill these niggas and that's how it really started

because it was like, it was, you know, it wasn't, that's back before dudes wasn't rapping when dudes thought it was, this,

when everybody was too cool to rap. They was like, yeah, you know, and rapping, it ain't. He thought of the name,

Major Frickus. Yeah. That's you. Because sometimes y'all play so much, I just be like, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm RZA of Major Frickus.

Like, I'm RZA. You went to jail. You RZA if he did 30 years for his YouTube like I'm RZA you went to jail you RZA if he did 30 years I'm RZA you know what I mean I did shit fuck is you talking about

no you had an idea you know you got caught I didn't so how'd you guys so you know I was on the same label as Dutch and Spade

how did y'all organize putting the team together with Major Figures we was all from the same hood basically Spade the one that taught me how to write 16s back in the day that was Dutch and Spade. How did y'all organize putting a team together with Major? We was all from the same hood, basically. Spade the one that taught me how to write 16s back in the day. Me and Spade was cool. That's my man. So he teaches me how to

write 16s. Let me just say something. Right. He under contract still wants me Spade. What you mean? Spade got him still a little bit. Get the fuck out of here. From back in the day. How you risen but you signed with Spade? No, he lied. He told me how to, so listen, he taught me how to from back in the day how you risen but you signed the state no he lying he lying

he told me how to so listen he taught me how to how to write them 16s and everybody else everybody else we all knew each other and then when I went to

cause it was only me and Gil but when I got popped Gil couldn't hold it down but you know so he needed and my man Elder Nero he needed reinforcement so he went and got Speezy

in them and it was it was over for me Rolex, Speezy, Beyonce bump y' was, it was over for me. Rolex, Speezy, Beyonce, bump. Y'all niggas can rap

y'all ass off, though. Spade, Dutch, U2, Gil, like when I did your guys' show,

and Wilder was like, was Gil good or whatever, and I'm like, he never got a fair shot, because Gilly could fucking really rap. All y'all guys could really rap. The girls, too.

The girl, I can't remember her name. Bianca. Bianca, she was good, too. I started to say The girl, I can't remember her name. Bianca. Bianca. She was good too. The minute I started to say, I'm going to take this shit serious, all he wanted to do was ride me, ride around with me,

and jump out on corners. Yo, you can't fuck with my cousin. Yeah. No, I was making tapes. I had the tapes. I used to get dudes that tapes with the sisters. He knew all the rappers. So I would think we was going on route. Yeah.

And we was, but we was going on route right after we stopped on this corner with these rap niggas that he knew. Hold on, cuz, let's get out of here.

Fuck, we getting out of here. That's his story. Go on, tell it. Nigga, did he run up on some rappers? Yo, can't fuck with my cousin. Yeah. Got me out there

rapping and shit. And he battling all over the city, right? Because I was his manager. Because I was better than him. I was his manager. Because I was better than him. I was his manager. He was a rapper who was rapping all his life. I just start rapping, and he got me battling everybody.

Think about that, Mase. I would say that Gilly is super-duper nice. Can I hear one of your rhymes, Waller? Right now, nigga. Right now. Right now. Let's hear one of your rhymes. Right now, nigga.

No, man, I'm retired. Right now, sing one of them motherfucking jail raps that you wrote. If I was free, I wouldn't. You don't make shit by heart. I don't make shit by heart. All right, all right. This is back when me and Gil, we had this song called Boss Niggas, right? Gil was doing the hook.

It was like, we them boss niggas. And I came in dumb ones for dumb ones, slugs for bugs. I only rode with thugs and thugettes. That's my motto. Motherfucker, my bottle. Back in 88, I used to rock lottos. Now I empty more bottles. Dog bitches in the back of a Bible.

I was talking like that. You know what I mean? I was talking that shit. That was my shit. I was talking that shit. You know what I mean? He ain't ready for my shit. Let me explain something to you.

Let me explain something to you. Gil did right there. That was Gil Lips. That's crazy. Hold on. Hold on. You know why he stopped? You know why he stopped?

Because I said dog bitches in the back of a vibe with me and Waller. You know what I mean? He couldn't say that, bro. So he just stopped. You know, I was driving like this. It's the twist, though. It's the twist. See, I was a team player, right?

Hold on. Let me give you the game. We was going to the studio, right? And the beat come on. I'd be like, you know what? I got the hook. So I usually just do the hooks. Or I had something like, yo, we got to sample this shit.

You know what I mean? And that was my whole thing was just the hooks. I believe you was hustling trying to get major. If I can't go at the rest, you remind me of my cousin who out there, Duke the God. Duke the God, he was supposed to be our road manager, so I would do a 16, and then I'd come back to the block, and niggas be like, yo, I heard that song with you and Duke. It was hot.

And I'd be like, what the fuck? Hold on, I don't got a song with Duke. Duke knew what he was doing. Duke took my shit and put a verse on it and been playing it for the whole neighborhood. Now niggas just talk about, yo, you and Duke. I'm like, Duke, what the fuck is you? They're gonna kill it.

They feeling it, though. So I was like, yo, that was not the plan, my nigga. He knew what he was doing. He knew how to repackage shit. This shit just like around the block. You know how dudes, oh, damn, they got the big five dollar rocks, but you can take them and make two five dollar rocks over here. He was re-rocking.

He was remixing. That's all. You know what I mean? Nah, he did some shit that was unauthorized. So you're saying Gilly had the crack then? Yeah, yeah. He had the crack. Listen, I ain't. He noble, yeah Gilly had the crack then? Yeah, yeah. He had the crack. Listen, I...

He noble, yeah. You know? But not on duty, dog. I had the crack. He's saying Gilly had the crack then. Listen, listen. I was in the managerial

as, you know, I was a manager. I had the public, the production company, the publishing. I had everything. Nigga was a secretary, man. You know what I'm saying?

I had to break down that nigga was a secretary. You got a publisher? You got a publisher? I still got a publisher. Nigga was a secretary. You got a publisher? You got a publisher? I still got a publisher. Wallow said he still got your publisher. That Wallow full of shit. I had anything, man.

You just figured it out. Wallow, well, we, first of all, back then, we didn't even know about publishing. Fuck it. He didn't know nothing about no fucking publisher. I was reading This Business of Music. You ain't know I had the book. First of all, you ain't learn how to read till you got in jail, bro.

Oh, that was before. You was looking at pictures till you went to jail, nigga. I mean, I knew what was going on. Master, master, master. Get the fuck out of here. Master P. Oh, yeah, master.

Them niggas is shining. He lying. This nigga lying. This nigga lying. He lying. They got a GD in jail, man. He lying, baby. He was one of the niggas in jail.

Fuck no. He learned how to read in jail? I learned how to read in a juvenile facility before I went to the penitentiary. So he lying. I already was on point. So when I'm in the... I'm on the streets reading this business.

I told you jail. What did he say? We learned how to read it. Hold on. Before y'all continue, because I seen another argument that you guys had that Mace may be aware of. So I'm going to ask Mace this question

that I'm going to want you two to comment afterwards. Mace, let me ask you this. Your opinions has nothing to do with them. I'm asking your opinion. If you get your GED in jail, is that a real GED? Is it not a GED? If you get in jail.

It's a real GED. Thank you not a GED? If you're getting into it. It's a real GED. Thank you. That's what they was talking about. I'm going to go with what Gillian says not. It's the same test. It's the same test. Yes, it is. As long as you ain't take it on a computer.

Did he take it on a computer? Fuck no. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Then it's a real GED. No. Okay, let me just say this. So he trying to tell me I got my culinary arts degree in jail.

Same paperwork. That fucking shit don't count. When you go to Ocean Prime and you like, oh, whatever, I'm going to be a cook. Okay, where you cook that? Dallas Penitentiary. Get the fuck out of here. You're not the chef here, buddy. Listen, listen, listen. Shout out.'re not the chef here, buddy. They not talking to you.

Shut up. That's why the argument with this girl is over today. Because the food and everything is different. So if a nigga learn how to cook salmon in jail, that ain't going to work. I said, well, it's the same thing. Let me explain something to you. Let me explain something to you.

First of all, shout out to the chef and the instructor, Steve Delly, South Philly. He was a chef in the Navy. This was our instructor. He giving us a game. So I'm already a big shop. I went there. I turned into a master chef.

You know what I mean? I'm cooking for the population. It was real food. Like real shit. You know what I mean? I'm cooking for the population, father. Me food. Like, real shit. You know what I mean? I'm cooking for the population, father. Me and my homie Psycho.

We didn't even cook at nighttime. He would've got left up north, but he was the chef up north. He was the chef up north. He was going in. He going to Ocean Prime with all these good ideas.

You know, I got some Dorito Linguini. Y'all don't even be digging it, though, right? Because you know they cook anything with Doritos and shit. I knowall don't even be digging it, though, like. Because you know they cook anything with Doritos and shit. I know like five Mexican

boys I was in jail with never, never had nothing. They work in a five-star restaurant. Them people in the back, they don't be having no degrees, bro. But them niggas not cooking.

Them niggas just cleaning the restaurant. What it is is, all right, let me give you the game about a restaurant. You got a chef. The chef just teach everybody how to make it.

He don't make the shit. He teach everybody else how to make it, don't make the shit he teach everybody else how to make it and they making the dishes that's why you see all the everybody else moving around in the joint so you don't have to have

so what was you in the joint I was a chef so you was watching everybody else make the shit so if I put a five star restaurant I like to win I'm going to be the chef and I'm going to run

the whole kitchen this is how you do this but you had to do it one day to tell people how to do it we had to one day learn how to actually do what kitchen. This is how you do this. But you have to do it one day to tell people how to do it. We have to one day learn how to actually do what you're telling people what to do. That's me being a chef? Yeah, I got my, you know, dad.

But not anybody else in the kitchen. Chee-chee soup. No, I know how to make some stuff. Y'all niggas should have a versus. You and Wawa. Boy, I'd kill that nigga. I would fucking kill. I'm more the man of German movies.

I would murder him on the fucking mic. Nah, I'll say one thing for sure, yo. Definitely is that, on a serious note, I just want to commend you, Wilder, because when you doing 20 years and coming out and getting straight to it, hitting the fucking ground, running, niggas ain't been to jail and doing what you do. You know what I'm saying? you doing 20 years and coming out and getting straight to it hitting the fucking ground running niggas ain't been to jail

and doing what you do you know what I'm saying I say and I know y'all cousins and everything and I be like this nigga Gil is so lucky

to have you vice versa same same thing but your hustle and your drive every day is fucking impeccable

and the things that y'all doing besides y'all podcast both of you guys is amazing. So I just want to salute you on that because a lot of niggas will come home and complain

and make excuses and be like, well, niggas ain't look out for me. Niggas ain't doing this for me or niggas ain't doing that for me. When you wouldn't have made it happen for yourself alone with the help of your cousin, man.

So salute on that. You know what it was? Me and Gil always talk about this when I used to call from the joint. Nigga told me one time, Wallo, you like OG, was like, you like the happiest nigga in jail.

Say what he called you, nigga. He called me jail master. Called you time machine. He called me time machine, right? Look at time machine. I'm gonna walk past his house. You know what? The realest shit that I realized, I went to jail because of me.

When I, on the streets, you get paid for your performance. If you're out in the street, if I'm hustling, I can celebrate when I get the streets, you get paid for your performance. If you're out in the street, if I'm hustling, I can celebrate when I get the money, right? If I'm doing whatever moves I'm doing, sticking up, whatever. So when I get popped, I got popped.

Ain't nobody getting no pop. Ain't nobody telling me. So when I'm doing the time, I can't be, when you out there running around doing whatever you're doing, that's on you. Don't nobody owe me nothing, okay? And I think a lot of times when dudes go to jail, they get bitter.

And a lot of times, you know what I realize about jail? And that's why you never hear me talking no tough shit and try to glorify it in the wrong way. I try to tell boys. In the ghetto, dudes think because they went to jail

that make them realer than somebody else because they got caught. No, bro, you got caught. That's all it mean. That don't mean you more of a real nigga. That's why dudes be coming home

all mad because, bro, you got popped for like a burgl why dudes be coming home all mad Because Bro you got Popped for like a burglary man Now you come home You need no brown You got all this money Like you Yeah these niggas ain't

Bro man Why was niggas supposed to look out for you You was You was getting high Before you went to jail anyway But dudes that come home With this entitlement And everybody just

Throwing everybody That shit don't mean nothing That'll get you killed quicker Because since you been in jail Lil Boo Boo Lil Raheem That's a fact They'll light That'll get you killed quicker. Because since you've been in jail, little boo-boo, little Raheem. That's a fact.

They'll light your ass up, shoot you to your shirt, catch you on fire. That's a definite fact. But dudes be coming home with that angry shit so they can't even program theyself to even put no hustle down

or have no grind. Because they come home thinking somebody pulled the, this ain't the 80s, this is not the 90s. Dudes ain't getting it like that in the streets. So ain't nobody coming home

and dropping it on you. Oh, yo, he go 10, he go 15. That's not happening. And. Dudes ain't getting it like that in the streets. So ain't nobody coming home and dropping it on you. Oh, yo, he go 10, he go 15. That's not happening. You don't deserve that hand anyway because when you left the streets,

your performance didn't say you generate that type of hand on the comeback. Got you. You're absolutely right. You know what I mean? Why they called you

Time Machine though? Because I did time with ease. I wasn't doing no bitching in there. I wasn't running around mad and trying to, you know,

in jail, you got dudes, man. All they do is they just mad at the world, man mad and trying to, you know, in jail, you got dudes, man. All they do is they just mad at the world, man. They want to, you know, for some shit they did. Bro, you did that. Like, you wouldn't have killed somebody or you wouldn't have did whatever. Like, that's on you, bro. I'm running around laughing all day.

I keep it real. You know, like he said, you know, I did that. I got to do the time. He stood up, except for when you were screaming come out cuz they got us yo you told on 2D when y'all got locked up with the weed man

I keep telling you you were screaming cuz come out they got us he on the ground talking about cuz coming from the F-150

they got us how you get out seven days before your wife when y'all got locked up with the weed bro first of all what you tell her

I got a statement don't make me pull a statement out fuck out of here I heard y'all talk about this before too so how did this go cause is this true fuck out of here. I heard y'all talk about this before, too. So how did this go? Because is this true?

Because I don't be knowing what y'all playing right now. Yeah, he got out seven days before 2D. Listen, he get to tell her. I seen the paper. He told her it was a Chinese connection. You know, 2D Asian. Yeah, I seen that. They said he got weed in the front front.

Plus 2D Korea, first of all, nigga. It's a connection, though. The Korean connection. And second of all, nigga, 2D got out before me, nigga. No, you told me you get the out before me Nigga When I came out That jail two Was outside waiting on me Nigga

Fuck you Alright cool Cause Balo be pumping out a lot I heard that about Six different times He's a fucking liar He mad Because I ain't go

To the joint with him Okay Cause they got us That was the last thing Cause they got us as well That was the last He lie Listen

Listen That was the last thing. Because they got us as well. That was the last. He lied. Listen, listen. He lied. That was the last thing I heard from him on the streets. I ain't never seen it. On the streets. He heard. I was getting skinny. Because they got us.

What did you mean they got us? The fuck? I ain't never seen that. I'm getting skinny. The fuck is you talking about? I ain't never seen it. The next thing I know, the fuck is you talking about? I ain't never seen that. The next thing I know, he call home from jail

talking in codes and shit. Okay, I just wanted to get to some facts, man. Like, we're going to talk some sports real quick. But I love y'all too dynamic, and I love what you guys are doing. And thank you guys also for helping connect me and Mason, putting this shit together for us.

Yeah, we had to, man. You know, for making us, because to be honest with you, and we talked about this on A Million Dollars Worth of Game Night, we had to, man. You know, for making us, because to be honest with you, and we talked about this on A Million Dollars Worth of Game Night, we may not even still be speaking right now

without you guys' platform. So we just want to tell you guys thank you so much and you see to what it led to. You know, because all them niggas are going to start hustling once we cool again. So I just want to tell you guys

thank you so much for that as well. And I'm happy both of you guys are here. We have a lot to discuss so we're going to start with lebron james so lebron said he would be just as dominant if he never went to the heat he said you're damn right i would still be i'm chosen ain't nothing changing that maybe less rings but dominant from start to finish so do you guys agree that was my

team at that time because ray allen one of of my favorite players, and, you know, the Heat, you know, when you're on your winning streak, I'm in the joint time arguing with dudes. Damn, Waller, you ain't never been to Miami. I said, bro, we ain't never been in a lot of these places. You ever see the Yankees play? Did you ever see the Celtics play? All these teams, dudes in jail arguing with me

about who my team's going to be. You know what I mean? Because I was jumping around at the time because they was them guys. But I don't even know nothing about what was going on. I just know they was winning. So our dominance and all that other shit, I didn't really. I started watching them in the finals. I'm like, because Ray Allen is one of my favorite players

because he said my game match is. I was like, yo, this is my team. He said, Ray, Ray Allen. Dude's arguing with me. I ain't your team. I'm like, bro, I ain't gonna argue with y'all, bro. Harold Minor and them. One thing about him, soon as the argument pop up, he tap out. Harold Minor, we ain't gotta argue.

But you need some snacks, man. What you hating me for? Harold Minor. See, I go back with Lonzo, Harold Minor when they said Harold was gonna be the next Michael Jordan. I'm a Harold Minor USC fan,, when they said Harold was going to be the next Michael Jordan. I'm a Harold Minor USC fan, too. They said Harold Minor was going to be the next Michael Jordan. That's how you know I know sports.

This question is about fucking LeBron James. How the fuck you talking about Harold Minor, man? Oh, no, he was talking about the Heat. What the fuck are you talking about, man? Why that was my team? It's always you quick to scream out four niggas. They try to justify you no basketball. Did Dan Marley play for the Heat?

No, because I was at Seton Hall with Terry DeHair. Yeah, that's my man, Terry DeHair. And Harold Miner's the other one. And then Cedric Sabalis. It'd be three unusual niggas to make it seem like he know about basketball and shit. That's nothing to do with the question. So let me ask you, Gil. Would he be as dominant if he didn't go to Miami?

LeBron James was LeBron James. And that's that. He's the second greatest player of all time. Behind Michael Jordan. I don't think nobody could even contest that Mike's the best. Mike is, what, 60 years old? How many rings LeBron got? He's selling more sneaks than niggas in the NBA right now.

How many rings Kobe got? Five. What is he sneaks than niggas in the NBA right now. How many rings Kobe got? Five. What is he talking about? I'm just asking. No, let me just tell you something. Once you win multiple rings, that shit go out the window, bro. Once you win multiple rings.

Yeah, but okay, so Bill Russell won 11. Bill Russell wasn't better than Mike, man. What you talking about? Bill Russell won more than Wilt. Bill Russell wasn't better than Wilt, man. Bill Russell had a better team than Wilt, man. What you talking about? Bill Russell won more than Wilt. Bill Russell won better than Wilt, man.

Bill Russell had a better team than Wilt, man. Wilt scored 100 points on grown-ass men. You couldn't score 100 points on fucking first graders right now. Who couldn't? You, nigga. It'd be one of them niggas that'd have more points than you, nigga. You couldn't score

100 on a first grader. Right now, any first grader I put in first date, I'm putting a fucking in you. You're not even going to be in the game. They never contest the ball. You're slamming. What the fuck you think y'all playing on a kid court? What the fuck are you talking about? I'm only playing a little court because it's a kid.

I'm putting 150 on the NBA. I'm cooking the shit out of the kid. I'm not sparing no money. The fuck, Ali? I'm rocking it. This is my time to shine. To be honest with you though I agree with Gilly I have Michael Jordan

first and I have LeBron James second but I know a lot of people that say what Wallo say they have Kobe second not necessarily for the rings because he was an assassin he's a sniper he's a killer and LeBron my argument with LeBron is LeBron is not necessarily the killer that you guys

want him to be but if he's not a killer, how does he lead the... He's a beast. He leads the whole NBA. He passed Kareem for scoring title. So he might be a scoring killer what people argue about. About 37,000 points. Nigga knows how to play basketball.

That's a lot of points. You gotta understand, in the history of basketball, the whole history since this shit started, nobody has been and had more pressure on them to succeed than LeBron James. Nobody. He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated in the 10th grade or something, bro. Nobody. There's a difference.

When Kobe got drafted, Kobe was great, without a doubt, top five, when he got drafted, he came out like number 13, number 14, LeBron James came out number one, bro, Kobe Bryant averaged like six, seven points his first year at 18 years old, LeBron James averaged 20 points, five fucking assists and five rebounds, Eddie, well, fucking Kobe backed up Eddie Jones, man. No disrespect, Eddie Jones is my homie, my guy. LeBron James wouldn't have backed up Eddie Jones in the 10th fucking grade, man. What we talking about, man? Okay, hold on.

Hold on. LeBron James ain't never walked in a motherfucking NBA locker room and put a Robin uniform on, man. He always was Batman, man. Let's be for real. Kobe was Robin to Shaq's Batman. Shaq won all the fucking MVPs. Shaq won all the final MVPs. Shaq was the one putting up 47 and fucking 27 rebounds and shit like that. Who the fuck are you supposed to win when your center is that goddamn dominant? So at the end of the day, let's be for real. LeBron James is that guy.

He always been that guy. And he's still that guy. And it's 20 fucking one years later. So. He been playing for that long? Yes. I mean, let me ask you a question, Gil, since you're very knowledgeable about basketball. What make people not put magic up there in those first four spots?

I mean, I think you can put Magic up there, but I think the only thing that hurt Magic is his career was cut short. You feel what I'm saying? So Magic ain't even really get to see his true potential. Magic might have won eight rings. He might have won seven rings. You feel what I'm saying? With a short career, he had five.

Right. So I'm saying you can put Magic up there. Magic is in some people's top five. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because with a short career, you had five. Right. So I'm saying you could put Magic up there. Magic is, and some people, top five. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Do you have him

as the best point guard ever? That's fucking, that's hard, but probably yes. Yeah. Probably yes. Okay, Gil. Yeah. hard, but probably yes. Yeah. Probably yes. Okay, Gil. Yeah.

You can keep your gold hat on then. Well, I mean, come on, man. Steph Curry is a bad motherfucker. Yeah, Steph is right there. Like, you got to understand, Steph Curry made 400 threes in a season, man. Isaiah Thomas said nobody's better than him. The most three-pointers in a season go

Steph Curry, Steph Curry, Steph Curry, Steph Curry, Steph Curry, Steph Curry, Steph Curry, Steph Curry, and then my brother, Klee Thompson. Yeah. Magic got the chip in a rookie year, though. He did. But Magic went to a ready-made team, too. Them niggas had real

horses. They had Kareem Abu-Jabbar They had James Worthy Didn't they? Jamal Silk Who else they had? They wouldn't have won it Without Magic though No they wouldn't, Magic was different

And Kareem was hurt Them last two games On the road when they won the championship. And he played center. See, Magic was an energy guy, too. Magic energy was contagious.

You know what I'm saying? And he was super competitive. Like, you know what I'm saying? And he started all of the 6'9", niggas bringing the ball up and all that. He absolutely started that. He transitioned the game.

I have to say, Michigan. Imagine Magic trying to stick Steph Curry. Imagine Magic 6'9", trying to run around all them goddamn screens to keep up with Steph Curry. It's not happening. You're getting 40, Magic. The one thing I know about that, and Steph Curry's probably, I don't know who I would pick out of Steph Curry and Magic Johnson.

I don't have the answer for that. But Steph Curry never guards the point guard. Whether it's Magic, whether it's Kyrie Irving, whether he goes to the two guard. He's a liability on defense too. And Steph Curry, like I said, is either one or two of Magic. But the same way you're saying that Magic would be a liability on defense guard, Steph Curry, Steph Curry never guards the other team's best guard ever. Period.

Steph Curry do put the effort in. You see the effort on defense. No, no. The last couple years, because niggas call him out. Go watch the championship against Cleveland. He will not go get Kyrie Irving. He just will not. He said that one time when Kyrie hit that three on him for the game.

Yeah, but then again. So who are you taking, Steph or Kyrie Irving? I'm taking Steph. But to me, the best entertain him for the game. Yeah, but then again... So who are you taking, Steph or Kyrie Irving? I'm taking Steph. But to me, the best entertainer, the best dancer shoes, Michael Jackson socks, is Kyrie Irving. If I want to pay to see a nigga dance,

I'm going to watch Kyrie Irving. If I'm starting a team, I'm picking Steph Curry. Okay, so who dance better? Kyrie or A.I.? Who dance better? Yeah. Nobody ever handled better? Kyrie or A.I.? Who danced better? Yeah. Nobody ever had a handle better than Kyrie Irving.

But then, okay, but see. I love Kyrie's handle. But see, Kyrie will go, Wop, wop, wop, wop, wop, wop. And a nigga will still be right there. Hold on. No, no, no, no. You got to cut that out.

Hold on. Can I finish? You done seen it? Hold on. We done seen it happen. And Ky I finish? You done seen it? Hold on. We done seen it happen. And Kyria back it back out and go at you again. But Al don't do none of that. Al was like, ah, wham.

You're over there. I'm the fuck over here. You're out to pinch him. What you're doing is you're not asking. The question is your action is different. You didn't say who I'd rather have. You said who's a better dancer. But what I'm saying is if you got to make extra dribbles to get weak,

even Kyrie Irving. That's the dance, though. That's the dance, though. You asked who danced better. Listen. Listen. Actually, you'd rather have. Listen.

I'm not talking. It's my go. Now turn around. You said who dances better. And another thing, even if you stayed in with Kyrie, Kyrie invented. Now, I'd rather have AI just so I'm clear. A nigga never seen before Kyrie Irving, a nigga jump off the wrong foot and shoot it with the wrong hand.

He invented that. But a lot of times, Kyrie got to make them, because even when he get past you, the defender's still right here. Al never had those problems. With, with, wham, you're the fuck out of bounds. That you need to ask. That I'm shooting an open jumper. You need to ask. You see what he did to Mike?

That's not the question, bro. You see what he did to Mike? That's not the question you asked. That's not the question you asked, bro. He said, oh, you think too much, Mike. Oweam, where the fuck you going, Mike? That's not the question you asked. You asked, who's a better dancer?

Mason. Mason. Is there dancing, Mason? You singing that Allen Iverson dribbles better? There's dancing, Mason. Yo, I'm asking you a question. Hold up. You talking about the dribble.

I'm asking you a question. Are you saying Allen Iverson dribbles better than Kyrie Irving? That's what I'm asking. I'm saying Allen Iverson gets open better than Kyrie Irving. So your question is- His handle gets him open better than Kyrie Irving. Who is a better dancer? You never see Allen Iverson gets open better than Kyrie Irving. So the question is, who is a better dancer? You never see Allen Iverson call some nigga, go to the lane, and throw a nigga's deer.

You can't do that. You're just talking loud. You're not making sense. You ask who's a better dancer. Yeah, that has to do with speed, though, and athleticism. And a better dancer is Kyrie Irving. Who's a better player is Allen Iverson. It's speed, though.

It's a bunch of niggas that's fast in the league that's not sending niggas out of bounds. I know. Al Houston, first of all, Al Crossover was so crazy that the NBA said, oh, no, that's a carry. You can't do that shit no more. That nigga just crossed Mike out the building. Another thing is this. That nigga just crossed Jordan out of the air.

Jordan. What you're not paying Another thing is this. That nigga just crossed Jordan, out of the air, Jordan. What you're not paying attention to is this. And listen, because I don't want this to come off the wrong way. Like,

Allen Iverson's probably my second and third best two guard ever. Period. And I'm not saying I would want Kyrie Irving over Allen Iverson, so I don't want people

to take this the wrong way. Both of them great. No, but I'm just trying to say. My man, you know his fully thing. That's our nigga too. Nigga,

Allen Iverson shot us out in his Hall of Fame speech, nigga. That's my nigga. I'm just saying, who's up next? You Nigga, nigga, Allen, I was just shot us out in his hall of fame speech. Nigga. That's my nigga. I'm just saying, who's up to a three and two guards. Michael Jordan's number one, you know,

they label Allen Alvison as a two guard. If you go to the shit. So I'm saying it's Dwayne Wade and Allen Alvison. It depends. We had that conversation the other day, but what I'm saying, as far as dancing, that kid Kyrie knows how to dance,

but the answer, your quote, the answer, my quote, that basically the answer to what you're saying, I'm going with Allen Iverson to make a team. If I want to see showboating and shaking around, I don't know. And to agree with you, Allen Iverson's bad. He took Philly to a trip with nobody. Nobody.

Nobody. George Lynch. Yeah. Eric Snow. Nobody. McKee. Aaron McKee. Yeah. Eric Snow. Nobody. McKee. Aaron Mc... I ain't gonna say this to my guy. Don't say it to him.

But, but, but... Matt fucking Geiger. But what I was gonna tell you is this. What I was gonna tell you is this. Fucking Radler. The old fucking Radler, when we traded him for Mutombo. Now, the rules is this, though.

What? The rules changed because with Allen Iverson and those guys playing, you had to play man-to-man. You couldn't play zone. Now you could play zone. If it's a man-to-man with Kyrie Irving, everybody,

as much as you can say, stay with him, nobody, I put him top five players around the basket, finishers, never. The top two guards ever finishing at the rim was him and Rod Strickland. Rod Strickland played 1,000 teams. Not to cut off this debate, but I do want to get to the next couple

because there are some real good ones too. But before we move, do you guys think LeBron would have remained that way if he didn't play with the Heat? So the question is, LeBron, I agree with Gilly is that

he would have been dominant would he have had the championships I don't know I'm not saying he would have championships

but look to his point where he was saying with sometimes the championships don't make you Robert Ori

got seven championships Charles Barkley has zero I'll take Charles Barkley over Robert Ori a hundred out

of a hundred times for me Cam know what I'm gonna say I think I don't even think LeBron out of 100 times. Small man barking. Yeah, so. Mace, what do you think? For me, Cam know what I'm going to say. I think, I don't even think LeBron would be this dominant if he didn't go to the Heat.

Because I think after he would have lost a couple of more times, the whole stigma of that greatness would have went away. He would be still good. He would still be great, but not as great as he is. Because after you,

you know, you know like when you plan on teams and you start winning championships, there's a certain confidence that come with your game and you start playing a little bit more better. It's a great argument because as much, like Gilly said, as much pressure that was on him if he don't win them rings, they would have been like

he's good but he didn't win the rings. That's what I was waiting for you to say. Yeah, and then it becomes like a Barkley thing. You know what I'm saying? Where you're dominating at your position, but we don't see you like that because we start crowning the guy who was winning that became Jordan. Okay.

Speaking of LeBron and the Lakers, they got blown out by the Rockets, losing by 34 points. This is right after Dylan Brooks explained he was ready to lock LeBron and the Lakers, they got blown out by the Rockets, losing by 34 points. This is right after Dylan Brooks explained he was ready to lock LeBron up. So how do you feel about the Lakers' loss? It's just a regular season game. You know what I mean? And what was they in Houston? There's a lot of tenders in Houston.

So they probably was getting things. They probably was getting their dicks off the shelf the night before. We play Houston. So, you know, regular season games, shit like that happen. I really don't watch basketball until the finals, so I don't really. I do all the time. I'll be watching Netflix and shit. That, so I don't really... I do other times. I'll be watching Netflix and shit. That's when I decide who my team gonna be. All this

shit is a waste of time. It's losing shit. Y'all watching all these fuck... They got a zillion games for what? I gotta keep up with this shit? If I'm not gambling or betting... We know you watching Locked Up or Broad. I ain't got time for that shit. I blame this loss again on... And I hate, like I said,

be the dead horse for us, but Anthony Davis, you said you was going to play, what did he say, he was going to play murder 82 games? Yeah, he did say. You already lost. What did he hurt?

What did he hurt, his pinky ring? His pinky? It was his hip. It's always a problem with Anthony Davis. He's always hurt the first two things he promised he reneged on

yeah you're going to bust a joker ass that was the first game of the season you lost that the first lie then you're going to

play all 82 games you hurt your pinky nail and now you out and we don't know when you're coming back now LeBron got to suffer he just got an extension

shout out to my nigga Rich Paul. 62 million. 100 and, he makes 62 million a year. Damn. Extension. Rich Paul, you got him.

You know, I speak to Rich Paul. Damn, that's almost a million dollars a game. Now let me ask you this because you watch. Shit. And his finger hurt.

Wrong face. He's getting paid the same amount as Giannis. Is that fair? Anthony Davis is a dominant player when he's on the court. No, this is why it's fair. What year is this? Anthony Davis?

This year? No, is he dominant this year or last year? Or the year before? He won him a chip. All of my teams were guilt. They were starving. This year? No, is he dominant this year or last year? Or the year before? Well, he won him a chip. What year, Gil? All of my chips were Gil. They were starving. I'm a person that gambles, so I always take Anthony Davis over on rebounds,

and he always cash out for me. Your parlay? My parlay. Yo, I think it's fair. I think it's fair because it's about the negotiator. Well, then we're going to give Rich Paul that credit. That's what I'm saying. It's about negotiating.

Let's be for real. A lot of people is mad at y'all. Like, they ain't been around this long. They don't deserve that money. But y'all, Samuel L. Jackson. Well, that's what you got to realize. The thing about it is this, though, Gil. When people say that shit, I be like, yo, this is still 25 years worth of work.

Right. Regardless of what field we in, we've been in front of cameras since 96. Right. So you can sit there and be like, yo, Mason Kim don't deserve this. This is all residue of design. Right. At the end of the day, we've been behind in front of cameras since y'all niggas. Even when it comes to sports commentators and niggas like that, we've behind the camera since y'all niggas. Even when it comes to sports commentators and niggas like that,

we've been on TV before y'all niggas. Y'all niggas wasn't in front of the camera when we was in front of the camera. So we taking our talent, doing the knowledge and the due diligence behind that and putting it forward through this. Y'all niggas don't know how to act in front of the camera. We know how to sell it, nigga. So you can be mad all you want, nigga. Y'all niggas might have been in diapers.

Y'all niggas might have been in college. Y'all niggas might have been trying to hustle and get the way y'all going. We been in front of cameras, so suck my dick pores to over y'all niggas and say, not y'all niggas. Fuck out of here. You get the fuck out of here, bro. What do you know? Niggas was in frat parties getting hate.

You know what I'm saying? Fuck out of here, because niggas do be hating. You're absolutely right, but we not stupid. We know sports. Me and this nigga gonna argue about sports for three hours anyway on the phone. Who the top 10 white boys ever played in the NBA? You're not going to dictate the program, and you're not picking a team to the championship. No, you're not.

That's good, though, because he got the expert over here. I know the 10. Yeah, I know the 10, too. You better have Rick Smith in there. You better have Bill and Bill in there. What? No fucking Bill and Bill in there. Rick Smith was nice. Jerry West, man.

Bob Cousy, man. Yeah, you better. Larry Bird. Kevin McHale. John Stockton. Look at it Steve Nash Steve Nash

Dan Marley Chris Mullin Come on man Dan Marley Fuck no Chris Mullin Chris Mellon Motherfucking

Dallas Shrub No no Fuck no No No You ain't got Dallas in there No

I like Jeff Hornacek, too. You got Dan Morris, a lot of people. It might be 50 Bs. They tripping, cuz. It's something we should get. That's a great question. I'm sitting there thinking about it. Nobody never talk about Mark Price.

Mark Price. There you go. Yeah, nigga, you wilding out. You don't know nothing about basketball, nigga. Mark Price was good. And what's my man name that do it on Mark Jackson? Chambers, Tom Chambers. No, no.

Tom Chambers was nice, man. Somebody better than him, man. Tom Chambers was nice. Rex Chapman. Damn, Rex Chapman. No. He's a legend. Somebody better than him.

Okay. Danny Ains. No. Danny Ains wasn't good? Danny Ains was on the team With legends Oh my goodness You can't win a championship

Without some help Yeah You'll be here Five legends That's true I'm gonna keep it honest Celtics would've won Without Danny Ainge

They would've won without him They would've won without him Definitely Okay so moving along The Sixers got their Sixth straight win This time beating The Celtics

106-103 The Sixers are now The number one, this time beating the Celtics 106-103. The Sixers are now the number one seed in the East. Did you see this happening? What's my team? You had to be Stevie Wonder not to see it. Of course we see it. That's my city.

He was my squad too. Like we already know, we got the best player in the league. We got Joel Embiid. Big Moody Fugga. Best player in the We got the best player In the league We got Joel Embiid Big Moody Fugga Best player in the league The best player in the league He was MVP No this is why

I wanted him to start This is why Skip these other topics And went straight to this Okay okay Can we all agree on On some things here The NBA is a

Guards league Right now Not a big man's league Right It depends Because big men Are playing like guards So to speak The NBA is a guards league right now, not a big man's league, right? It depends. Because big men are playing like guards, so to speak. But what I'm saying, the guards is supposed to be running this right now.

Everything is threes, threes. My man led the NBA in scoring the last two years, man. That's my team baby I'm just saying it wasn't Steph it wasn't Durant it wasn't LeBron

it wasn't Luka it wasn't Jokic you know who it was that big moody voodoo guy I have a question I hear you look we skipped we took some topics off to get to this. When does the process end?

Yeah, that's what we want to know. That's what I wanted to know. Everybody in Phil. Why are you getting us with first of all? Everybody outside of Philly want to know that. When does the process end? That's what we want to know. I'm going to tell you.

The process is going to end this year when we win the championship. Process take time? Yeah. It took you 20-something years, didn't it? 7,300 jerk-offs. How many years is it going to take

the Sixers? Because I ain't going to be staying around that long. I know. I ain't got time for this shit. Keep waiting. People get hype in the city. I'm on a parade. I go to the city when the parades jump off.

Kansas City, I was there. It's coming this year. So you're saying the process is over. Officially, it's going to be over this year. This year. So you're saying that they're better than on the East Coast, just on the East Coast, when they beat the Celtics last night. So we better than them.

Right now. And who do we have on the East besides the Celtics? It was the Celtics because we love the Bucs. The Bucs. Y'all are better than the Bucs. Yes. What makes you think this? Because now, okay. That's what they mean. Do you realize? Yeah. Do you the Bucs. Yes. What makes you think this? Because now, okay.

That's what they mean. Do you realize, do you realize that, okay, so, do you realize we the only team that got four players that averaged 20 points?

Gil, Gil, you're saying a lot. That's 80. That's 80 points between four niggas. Gil, Gil,

and what's the, but Joel Embiid averaged 30. Tyrese Maxey averaged 26. Okay, you know this average. You know this average. What's the average? What does the average- Four niggas.

What does that mean? Listen, Gil, so you got a team, five players, that's average 90 points. Since you know that- Four. Okay, four. What's the team's average in the NBA? What's the average score in the NBA?

104. That's the average score? Anywhere from 104 to 110. And so do y'all make up for it? What's your bench points? Bro, we just got Nicholas Batum. I didn't ask you who you got. Okay, we just scored 148 the other day.

And who y'all beating that game? Some professionals. Okay. That mean they bums. Exactly. You have no names, my nigga. Bro. You know, this is when you the Sixers, when you the Eagles,

it don't matter who you play. All them niggas is bums. This is how it goes. Y'all know this side. This is the order right here. This is the order. It's the Dallas Cowboys, the New York Knicks, and not

just the Sixers, the Eagles, Philadelphia as a whole as delusional fans. What? As thinking they're going to win every year. We just got a chip. The Eagles. I give the Eagles a fishing,

but don't doubt your first chip ever. What is the Knicks doing? Didn't I say the Knicks is the fool? I put Knicks second. You the Knicks fan. I see you all at the arena. No, I'm a Spurs fan. I'm a Spurs fan.

I'm a Spurs fan. Yeah, I'm a Spurs fan. I had a dude from Harlem Spurs. That nigga was at the Knicks arena, him, Jewel, Zan, Jewel, Santana. They had the, all of them. I'm telling you how I got to the Spurs. Ross Strickland's my man.

Okay, Ross. Ross Strickland went to the Spurs. I went to the Spurs with Ross Strickland. They were telling you how I got to the Spurs. Ross Strickland's my man. Okay, Ross. When Ross Strickland went to the Spurs, I went to the Spurs with Ross Strickland. They were right from the Knicks to the Spurs for that check, don't they? I just stayed with the Spurs. Spurs got them chips. Yeah.

I would have been, I was down there then too. I ain't going far. Y'all fans are delusional. Period. What's today's date? Remember the date because we're going to call

when the players come and see where they at. And I'm always betting. And you think that Joel Embiid is better than the Joker? He won MVP? No, he wasn't supposed to win that. He wasn't supposed to win that. He wasn't supposed to win that.

Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. One person average, 31. One person average, 25. First of all, he took the last six games off. And you can't keep going up the average. 12 rebounds. He's not better than the Joker, bro.

Let me ask you a question. Do you rather have Joel Embiid than the Joker? Who the fuck is the Joker? Let me ask you a question. I'm trying. I didn't see that. I've seen the movie. The Joker, exactly.

Of course. Who is his boy? The Joker got a good team. He got a great base. Let me pick this nigga up. If I'm picking, and I got to pick between Joel Embiid or the Joker, I'm picking Joel Embiid every time. You got your mind, man.

I'm picking Joel Embiid every time. Oh, no, he's the animal. I know this dude. That was my team last year. You remember when we was at Denver when it shit? That's my man. That's your dumb ass. That boy's an animal. Y' when the shit was a man. Shit's a dumbass. That boy was an asshole.

Y'all, he's a beast. Don't fuck with him. And Joel Embiid is the MVP. Listen. I want to chip over the MVP. Listen, let me tell you something. The Joker took off the last five games to get ready for the playoffs.

That would have been debatable if the Joker didn't take off the last five, six games. No, that's not debatable. That's a fact, bro. That's a fact. So what about the last two years before the Joel B won it?

The prior two years. Because Joel B was supposed to win it the year before that. They robbed him. They always robbing somebody the nigga didn't want when they didn't want the nigga to win. Joke is nasty.

Because listen, he got up to the player Jamal Murray and he played for two years. You know, you know, you know, you know, uh, Joel B just had 48, man. Could you stop with the numbers? Michael Jordan had 63 and lost. Stop with the numbers, bro. We had just had 48, man. Could you stop with the numbers? Michael Jordan had 63 and lost.

Stop with the numbers, bro. We had 48-1, though. Pardon me? He had 48-1. He didn't play the fourth quarter. And you talking about game four? He didn't play the fourth quarter. Clay Thompson has 70 points.

And didn't play in the fourth quarter. Damn. He talking about 48 plays. That's a lot of points. People do records. He talking about 48 plays. That's a lot of points. People do records. He talked about game five of the season. Clay Thompson has 70 points

in three quarters and played the fourth quarter. He's an animal. That's what I'm trying to tell this nigga. That's one of my favorite players. They used to scream out about you, nigga, in prison. He's an animal.

What the fuck? Damn, I haven't been going about all this stuff, man. Well, Gilly, your take is a hot take. I'm not going to lie. I don't know if I agree with that one, but we'll let the audience decide. You can keep it on it, man.

Yeah, I don't know about that one. Who better stat? Would Julius Randle better than Joel Embiid? Who would you rather have stat? The Joker? The Joker. Who would you rather have on a Knicks? Jokic.

Jokic is the best player right now. That's not even debatable. That's my team. That's not even close. Yes, he is. That's not even debatable. That's my team. That's not even close. It's not even debatable, bro. And he's in your top 10 white boys, too. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you could throw him in there.

He's the number one player in the league. No, he's not. And Luka could go in there, too. Dirk. Dirk. No, Luka. And Dirk could go in there. Yeah, you're right.

See, I told y'all we was missing. I know about that. Luka over Joel Embiid, too. You crazy. And Durkin. Yeah, you're right. See, I told y'all we was missing. I know about you, man. I'll take Luka over Joel Embiid, too. You crazy. I definitely would. You ain't taking nobody over Joel Embiid. I'm taking the Joker on everything I love over Joel Embiid. You can't tell me. I'm not from Philly, and I love my Philly, nigga.

Don't get it wrong, Philly. I love y'all. But this process is taking me on forever. Let me just tell you something. This nigga talking about keeping it coming. Seen this big nigga crying. Kawhi hit the shot. Nigga start crying.

Boogers coming out his nose. All type of shit. I hate 7-1 crybabies. I can't tell you the nigga who's from Snack start coming out his nose. He was crying because he was crying. Yeah, he's crying big tears, brother. He gonna get one before Patrick Ewing.

Snack, my nigga. Snack coming out his nose, brother. Ewing might have no 7-1 drink, man. Gilly ain't gonna tell you all this, brother. You ain't going to tell you all this. Why the fuck you just screamed Patrick Ewing? From New York. What the fuck?

You and Chilton, we're drinking a brewski, man. Smoking a cigar. You ain't no Ewing. You know what? Because Gilly mad funny, so he going to throw it on Ewing because he know what I'm talking about is right. The process is taking fucking forever. Throw it on Tim Duncan.

You didn't say Tim Duncan. Yeah, that's the squad. Man, first of all, first of all. My game's like, I used to shoot all these last. Okay, okay, first of all, first of all. Cam is from Harlem. So let me tell you something. No, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on.

No, no, no, no. I'm going to let you finish. I used to trap in Ohio. Can I tell you my- How the fuck is he a Spurs fan? Can I tell you something, Gilly? I would have took a fucking- No, no, no.

He said it. I'm from Harlem. Trapped in Ohio. I'm from Harlem. I used to live in Ohio. You know who was my first team before the Spurs? The Globetrotters. We never lose. You talking about the Globetrotters.

Never lose. Ever. So I'm thinking of that. I know. On that note. On that note. We never ever lost, my nigga. We never lost my nigga. Letting them score and shit. We never lost nigga.

That's my team. So you're right. I am from Harlem. You really get it, nigga, man. Go shot. Go shot. Let me ask you one more question before we leave this

this topic real quick. How do y'all feel about the way James Harden left the Sixers? What do y'all feel about James Harden? James Harden left the Sixers? What do y'all feel about James Harden? James

Harden is a good dude, a great guy, but I love the fact when James Harden got the fuck out the Sixers because James Harden, for us, he dribbled too much and you, I don't personally don't feel as though you could win a championship with

one man taking 1,744 dribbles a fucking game. I don't personally don't feel as though you could win a championship with one man taking 1,744 dribbles a fucking game. I don't think that. Because, okay, say if you was going to be on tonight. Say if you was going to have 36 tonight. You ain't going to have 36, nigga. Because you ain't going to get the motherfucking ball, man. For real. And then it just became a pick and roll thing between him and Embiid and everybody else just standing around.

Now, he not playing. Tobias Harris balling like a motherfucker. Feel what I'm saying? Tyrese Maxey went from averaging 20 points, and now he averaging 26. Tobias Harris balling. Oubre averaging 20. Joel Embiid averaging 30.

Everybody getting the ball Everybody The pace is faster We ain't scored 148 points ever In the last two years So yeah I don't know nothing

About all that shit I just know that he snapped out Because something wasn't right That's all I know And he left I mean Darryl Morey Went through a little something But you know

He didn't play with his paper Or something No he got the money That he wanted But Darryl Morey Probably missed him Once he signed him to Philly That he would the money that he wanted, but Darryl Morey promised him once he signed him to Philly

that he would trade him because he didn't want to stay there. Oh yeah, Darryl Morey's his man from Houston. I was his GM in Houston and he felt he probably

had a better rapport with him and it didn't go as quick as he liked it to go. Let me ask you one more question before we go to break. Who do you think

did a better job for the Sixers? James Harden or Ben Simmons? A better job overall. Not the exit Ben Simmons overall when he was there. Nigga, James Harden. It ain't

even close. The reason I'm asking that is because Ben Simmons is still a three-time All-Star. He is, but at the end of the day, you know, when you are supposed to be a basketball player, bro, and you like, oh, my feelings hurt. I don't want to play.

Like, to me, that's like some ultimate dumb shit. Like, I'm never not hooping, nigga, because I feel some type of way with him or the fans said this or you said this at the end of a press conference during the play. Come on, man. That's like... See, but this is what I'm saying, Gillian. We argue about that. I argue, we talk about that on this show,

the new generation's feelings and how they get feelings hurt easily and all that. But being that you're such a loyal Philly fan, I'm thinking that you're not taking, and I'm not saying this is the right or wrong answer, this is your opinion. You're not taking into consideration the body of work. You're looking at the exit. I'm asking the body of work

since he's been there versus James Hart and his body of work when he was there. That's all I'm asking. Don't look at the exit. I get the exit. I'm agreeing with what you told me. The body of work was he averaged 15.7 points. He averaged eight rebounds and he averaged 15.7 points.

He averaged eight rebounds, and he averaged like 7.9 assists. James Harden just averaged 20 and led the league in assists. It's clearly who better. And he shot like 36% from three. This man wouldn't even attempt a three-pointer, man. To the point where he would be at the three-pointer with the ball and everybody just is back in the lane like, nigga, you ain't going to shoot.

This is my whole thing. How is you saying James Harden led the lead in assists? Yeah. The fuck you talking about he dribbled too much? I don't understand that. Because he's getting seven assists from Joel Embiid, nigga. All right. What you talking about? I don't know what. I don't understand that. Because he's getting seven assists from Joel Embiid, nigga. All right. What you talking about?

I don't know what. I don't know. He said he dribbled too much. He wasn't passing the ball. But what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, if you always got the ball 80% of the game, you the only nigga passing the ball to niggas. So you should have an assist, nigga. If I'm dribbling, oh, it's four seconds.

I can't get nothing off. Then I throw that shit to Cam. I'm fucking Cam shooting percentages up. Cam got to catch that shit with 1.9 seconds left. All that shit. Oh, man, I'm trying to get paid, nigga.

You got my shit in the 29%. So at the end of the day, now we get that shit, we running. Everybody get that shit. If you open, you get the ball. We get a rebound, we force it ahead. Tob running. Everybody get that shit. If you open, you get the ball. We get a rebound. We force it ahead.

Tobias Harris get to get it. We wasn't doing none of that, man. All right. No, that's a look. Ben Simmons, no disrespect. Well, disrespect. He gives no love on this show. None whatsoever.

We go hard on Ben Simmons because he missed two, three games this season. So he's fucking four games in. I just want to know from a Philly perspective because I follow a lot of comedians from Philly on the gram. Like, y'all got some funny-ass niggas. And I follow a lot of people from Philly. And I seen how they treated Ben Simmons when he left.

I seen how they treated James Harden. It was kind of the same. It's like, man, get the fuck out of here. You know, Philly fans are harsh. Y'all may have the harshest fans in America. Because if you don't want Rockwooders, then get out's like, man, get the fuck out of here. You know, Philly fans are harsh. I may have the harshest fans in America, so. Because if you don't want Rockwooders,

then get out of here, man. Right, so that's why I asked you about James Harden. I wanted to see what was your opinion on if you felt the same way when he left as when Ben Simmons left.

That was just my opinion on that. I wanted to see how you felt about it. Okay. Well, in the comments, let us know what you think about the Sixers and Gilly's take

on James Harden. So let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Hawks will play the magic. Underdog fantasy has Trey Young at 10 assists. Do you have him higher or lower? Mace? Lower. You're going to shoot.

I'm going lower as well. Yeah, Trey Young got to get his 30. Okay. Higher. You want to sign? We can get you a deal now. You want to join the team? Get him in.

You might as well make your pick too. Okay. Paulo Bencaro is at 21 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? I'm going lower. How many points at 21 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? I'm on lower. How many points? 21 and a half. I'm going higher.

Come on, man. Okay. Ben Carroll, what you got? He's doing it. He's higher, of course. Okay. But,

and Jalen Suggs is at four rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? I'm lower. I'm going four rebounds. Want a ticket? higher or lower, Mace? I'm lower. Four rebounds. One ticket? Yeah.

I think you're going to get four rebounds. You're going to get four and get higher. I'm going to go higher. Okay. Lower? Okay.

That nigga's voice went down. I bet on that nigga one time. I was like, get four and add rebounds. That motherfucker got two it happens fuck my parlay up

make sure to download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too we are obviously joined back with our guests Gilly and Wallow so let's look at the Clippers we spoke a little bit

about James Harden but they lost to the Nets 100 to 93 Clippers coach Ty Luce said it's going to take 10 games to see where they're at with James Harden. So thoughts on their loss, and then how do you feel about his comment?

Man, they got 10 games, but not against the Nets, man. The Nets is the easy game. He should have shown up there. What do you think, Gilly? I think they got to see, you know, build some team chemistry. I think the Clippers is a good fit for him, though, because he can get the big men

and them involved, and then they got a bunch of one-on-one players that could get busy when they need to. And I'm not being unrational. It's just like when you have a player that's so used to quitting on teams, you can't wait and give it that much time.

I was just about to say, I think my personal opinion is 10 games with this starting lineup is a lot of games. It's excessive. Essentially, we talked about this the other day. You got player positions, but you really got four guards starting. It could be even Paul George, Kawhi Leonard. They're off small forward or shooting guard, whatever you want to label them.

Neither one of them are big enough to play a powerful position. And I think Russell Westbrook or James Harden, neither one of them should come off the bench because it gives you more power off the bench. This starting lineup, I don't think it's going to work. The same thing I said about Golden State

with Chris Paul in the starting lineup. Now Golden State is cooking with Chris Paul coming on the second unit. Me personally, I think James Harden should come off the bench. Not that he isn't a starter. I just think that he has more... He's been there before

when he played with OKC and been successful off the bench. I don't think Russell Westbrook is good off the bench. It didn't work for the Lakers. I think that he should be a starter more than Russell Westbrook, but I think it'd be more successful in a Manu Ginobili situation. So who would you start at the two? What I would do, I got to go through their roster,

but what I'm saying is, me personally, I think that James Harden's going to start, and eventually they're going to bring Russell Westbrook off the bench. But I wouldn't do that. Just me, Cam, as a coach. I think James Harden off the bench? That's incredible. I think you take James Harden off the bench,

that's a recipe for disaster. Why do you say that? Because the man just sat there and told you, I ain't a system player, I'm a system. And then you're like, oh, you're a system that's coming off the bench, nigga. No, listen, I'm 100% agreeing with you because some people don't have the mentality

to come off the bench, 100%. I think Russell Westbrook takes the role of, he is at a point in his life where he done took so much criticism and done been beat up so much that he like, I just want to win and I'm going to play my role,

whatever role it is. I ain't got nothing to prove no more. Everybody already got triple doubles for two, three seasons straight. I'm just trying to win. But James Harden still believed that I'm a top 10 player in this league. I'm a top 15 guy in this league.

He just said, I'm a system. If you listen to what I just said, though, is what you just said. I said, I think Russell Westbrook's definitely going to end up coming off the bench. But for success, my opinion, I don't think it's going to happen. My personal opinion, James Harden off the bench is going to end up coming off the bench. But for success, my opinion, I don't think it's going to happen. My personal opinion,

James Harden off the bench is going to be a monster. But some people that's been starting their whole career, even though he came off the bench in OKC, don't have the capacity, mental capacity to come off the bench because I agree with you 100%. Niggas just said I'm a system. And like you said,

he probably believes he's a top five, let alone top 10 player in his brain in the NBA right now. But I'm just saying, imagine if he was, if he did have the brain space to come off the bench, the Sixers would be crazy. But this starting lineup, I don't really think he's going to get it. My opinion, I don't think it's successful.

What do you think is in store for the Clippers in the next 10 games? Well, I think they got Kawhi. I think they got the nucleus of that shit and I think if James don't really try to force anything, he just come in and say,

you know, I'm just going go with the flow and I think they'll win and they'll figure it out as they go because they got some superstar people,

you know what I'm saying? With this star lineup right here. I don't know, you got to see it. You got to, you know, only time will tell. I'm saying? With this start lineup right here. I don't know. You got to see it. You got to, you know. I'm going to. Only time will tell.

I'm going to put it out there and say, no, this start lineup is not going to work. I don't think so. Because they don't have the spot of shooters. For that type of talent, all of them are the same type of players. They need the ball and they need the drive. Look, what I think is going to happen, not what Albuquerque

would do, Russell Westbrook's coming off the bench and P.J. Tucker's going to get in the starting lineup. And it's going to push everybody up

because right now you got Paul George as a power forward on the team. I think P.J. Tucker's eventually going to be in the starting lineup. That's just my opinion.

What you think, Lo? I don't even know. I know P.J. Tucker. That's my man. I know Horan. I know Kalawha, the one with the braids, right? He used to play for the Spurs and some shit. He played for the Spurs.

That's all I know. He just called the name Kalawha. Ain't Chris Paul over there? He played for Golden State. No, but I thought he was with the Clippers. He was at one time. See,'s all I know. Ain't Chris Paul over there? He played for Golden State. No, but I thought he was with the Clippers. He was at one time. See, I don't know. No, he was.

Seven fucking years ago. Yeah. When he was Lob City, nigga. That's my man, Chris. Cool. Okay. So, I don't know if y'all have tuned in to Undisputed lately, but Skip had rapper Yellow Beezy on the show giving his football take.

So, a couple of those clips. Yellow Beezy just lost 10,000 to Gil Cowboys. Bum-ass Cowboys. And that's the clip. Yeah, he was talking about the Cowboys on the show. But Skip had tweeted that he's part of Undisputed's weekly Young Money group. So how do you feel about this route that Skip is taking? I think Skip is old head

that's just trying to find a way out here, you know? He's, you know, I just think he's just trying to find a way out here. I just seen him on an Instagram post where he was basically begging for somebody to come work with him. I would love for him to be my partner

in religion. But I don't know. You know, I don't really, I don't really get Skip and Young Money. You know,

but shout out to Young Money. They on TV. They doing their thing. So. Skip is reaching, bro. Like, you know, I ain't gonna hold you.

Skip is fucking reaching, bro. Skip is reaching on Sham Dog. Yeah, no disrespect to Yellow Beezy or none of that shit, but Skip, I think what's going on is that Skip, and I'm going to pat ourselves on the back. Niggas like us came into this space and started shaking shit up, and then Stephen A is still number one on first take as far as ratings is concerned and skipping

him back to his brain is like that's my fucking show and Shannon ended up leaving Skip so now Skip is trying to figure out who I can get in the off season when he wasn't working he's like oh I'm getting Richard Sherman or I got Michael Irvin or I got this person or yo matter of fact every Friday Lil Wayne is coming on no

disrespect to Lil Wayne you know that's my bro too but I think Skip is such a panic that he's like, yo, who's hot? What's going on? Y'all busy? Period. I don't care. I don't care who Skip get. What athlete?

What's the name? It's a different, it's a new sound in town. It's a new, it's a new, it's cultural impact. This cultural impact is taking place. People want to hear a different outlook on sports. That's why y'all doing y'all thing. People like Gil, it's because they tired of that same

old shit they've been hearing for decades, man. The same dry stuff. People that are not connected to the culture a lot of times. Some people that never played ball. You know what I'm saying? No, the whole thing is I'm totally agreeing with you, but Skip knows that as well. So he's trying to get whoever's hip in his brain.

But just because they're hip, they don't mean they're going to connect. That's the point. That's what I was about to say. Just because you're black, that doesn't mean you connect. That's a fact. And just because you're on TV every day don't mean you're connecting.

Why would somebody want to listen to you and listen to your take? It's your take. Do you know what you're talking about? Mixed with some humor? Is it real? Is it raw? That's what people are looking for right now. The difference is we push an authenticity.

That's different. We how we talk and how we represent the sports, you know what I mean, is from a regular human. Barbershop talk,

how we talk, how we just talk and we debate. You know, these corporate, they got the questions already set up for you. They got the, you know,

oh, the Cowboys is the biggest team. So we always got to talk about the Cowboys. Oh, this is this way. So we always got to do it this way. That's not real. That's why all them niggas got fired. Yeah. They fired everybody.

That's why you turn to Mike DiWallo and you're just like, what about this? And he said, I ain't watch it. Because I ain't lying. I ain't read no script. No, that's the point. Exactly. That's what he's talking about. Killer asked me about that. I said, I don't watch them. He said, but we getting paid to do this.

I said, but I still don't watch them. So we get from an authentic standpoint. That's because Mase really didn't do his homework and knew what the fuck was going on. So he just used status. Nigga was lazy this fucking night. That's what happened that day. Killer here like, what the fuck you mean?

It's like whack rappers You don't listen to them Absolutely Yeah I just don't You like that I don't even listen to them I want to tell y'all brothers Yo thank you guys so much

For coming Thank y'all guys For what y'all doing For the culture And pushing it forward It is what it is We appreciate y'all niggas man Thank you guys so much

Stat baby Yeah sir I like she go to a professional She be here regular This is what it is. We appreciate y'all niggas, man. Thank you guys so much. Stat, baby. Yeah, sir. I like she go to a professional. She be here regular. Yeah, what's up, y'all? How you doing? This is what it is. This is what it is.

We want to. You got it down pat. She fuck me up. I'm like. She put that professional. She put that professional polish on the whole team, man. A little bit of both. I try my best.

But yeah. Thank you both for being here. This was super, super dope. And definitely the link up everybody was waiting for. So we appreciate it. That is all the time we have for today.

Thanks for watching. And as always... Shout out to Philly. Shout out the million dollars worth of games. Shout out to the process. The process. Yeah, let's taking a long time.

Get that nigga Gilly out of here. Nut ass niggas, man. These two nut ass, three nut ass niggas right here, man. We'll see you next year when the process starts over. We ain't messing with these nut ass niggas. The process will be here this time next year. Gilly will tell you, now this is going to be the year I'm telling you. That's all good, man.

We on. It's cool. I can't wait to lift that trophy up. Shout out to the Knicks. What's the name? Of course. Shout out to the Knicks. Shout out to the Knicks.

Shout out to Worldwide West, man. Real quick. Hold on, baby. Hold on real quick. We know it's a million dollars worth for a game. What's the name of your sports podcast? Gilly on Sports. Gilly on Sports.

Gilly on Sports. Make sure y'all check out Gilly on Sports. Shout out to JoJo. Shout out to JoJo. Yes, sir. My little homie. You know what I mean? And as always, it is what it is.

It is what it is. Yeah. Outro Music