IT IS WHAT IT IS - It Is What It Is Episode 1

Episode Date: April 27, 2023

Pilot Episode of the Sports Talk Show featuring Cam'ron and Ma$e... Is Bronny better than Mikey Williams?

Hey guys, it's your girl Esmeralda and welcome to It Is What It Is. Today we have our host Cameron and special guest Mace here to go over some current topics in sports. With that being said, let's talk about Bron. He has a scoring title, but is he the real GOAT? I know you're not asking me that. I know you're not asking me that. I know you're not asking me that. Do you want to go first or do you want me to

go first? Go ahead. Go first. I don't even have LeBron in my top two. LeBron is probably... He can't be first goal. I'm going to let Cam go and I'm going to close because I know what I want to say. Thank you for letting me go.

Thank you for being so kind. Thank you for being so kind. Look, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't go against Mike. I really, really don't go against Mike at all. But Bron make it hard every year, every year, pause to go against Mike, man. I mean, like, Mike is still number one.

Come on, Gellar. I'm just telling you. No, Mike is number one. You're smarter than man. I mean, like, Mike is still number one. Come on, Garrett. I'm just telling you. No, Mike is number one. You're smarter than that. I know you. You're smarter than that. Listen to me. Listen to me.

I'm listening. Listen. Braun, yo, 10 years straight. All right, let's bust down the stats. 10 years with no foul one. Listen, listen, no. Listen. Okay, go ahead.

Listen to the stats. See, it ain't his fault the game changed. You acting like it's his fault that he changed the game. It wasn't him that changed the game. You got four league MVPs, four finals MVPs, ten years straight of going to the championship.

Ten years straight. How many do you want? Four. Four out of ten? Yeah. 40%? Yeah, 40%, but niggas don't even go. How many times did Charles Barkley go to the championship? Now, how many times did Mike go?

Mike won six. How many times did he win? I just said I'm not going against Mike. I'm going to let you finish. I'm going to let you finish. Because that's sensitive to me. I'm a Mike fanatic. Listen, I'm trying to explain to you why it's hard every year. So he wins the scoring title the other night, right? He needed 35 points or whatever.

Bro, 38. For him to say, you know what? Everybody out tonight. J out. Kareem's here. Everybody here. He can score 40 in three quarters when he want. He didn't have to score 40.

He turned it on like the stars out. I'm going to drop 40. I give him his credit. I don't go against Mike. All I'm saying is that it's hard to fight for Mike year in and year out because LeBron do amazing shit for a long time. Okay. I like your pause.

I like your pause on that. Yeah. Because LeBron is a. I like your pause on that. Yeah. Because LeBron is, LeBron is a, I can't even give him gold. I can't. Gold is today, but when you've seen better, you know better, you do better. And Mike is just better. I'm not going against Mike. I'm just saying the fight is hard every year. And there's no fouling.

Remember, Mike was getting punched when he won the championship. Mike was getting clotheslined. But niggas, see, the thing about that, niggas act like LeBron and these niggas changed the rules. It wasn't them who was like, yo, let's change the rules. He did, though. He did. He did.

Nah, he did. He played with his nemesis. Bird would have never played with Magic. Jordan would have never played with Magic. Jordan would have never played with Bird. How do you justify that? I agree with that. I'm going to keep it 100. Niggas wasn't friends. These niggas got camaraderie.

Yeah, so two of those wouldn't count. He would actually have two. What do you mean? Two he got with his mans. With Dwyane Wade. So that's his fault that he cool with a nigga. Because he cool with a nigga. He didn't with a nigga because he cool with a nigga. He can't win a championship because he cool with a nigga. That's like going in a park

and getting two seven-footers on your team and playing with two seven-footers and all that's left is six three players. What happened was Bosh and Wade. That ain't what happened. What happened was the year before niggas seen Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen go to Boston.

Niggas like, oh, that's the formula. Three niggas. We need three niggas. That's what's going to do it. Everybody, them niggas went over there and won that championship the first year. After that, niggas is like, oh, we need a big three. It ain't just LeBron. Everybody started trying to get a big three. So LeBron and them n, oh, we need a big three. It ain't just LeBron. Everybody started trying to get a big three.

So LeBron and them niggas went and got a big three. Okay. That's what happened. He didn't start that off. I see where you're going with it. They was first. I see where you're going with it. Okay, so what about the championship he wins with Kyrie hitting the shot,

where he deferred to Kyrie and Kyrie brought him home? I've never said that he was an assassin. I just said... See, that's the thing about Braun, too. People be like, yo, he's not a killer. You know, Kobe and Mike is killers. He's not... I don't think he's a killer. I think them niggas are snipers.

I think LeBron is more like put something in your drink and then you got Of course as much as niggas say that he ain't a killer and all this other shit. How do we got the scoring title? He's been playing since he was 19. That's how yeah Yeah, but at the end of the day it took him 20 seasons like it took Kareem 20 seasons But he did it before the season was over. So at the same amount of time is him 20 seasons? Like, it took Kareem 20 seasons. But he did it before the season was over. So, at the same amount of time, it's still 20 seasons. I see where you're going.

I'm just not arguing about it. But what I will say about this, Mike is still my number one. I got LeBron number two. I've got Kobe number three. I don't got Kobe two because. You got LeBron over Kobe? Yes, I do. You know what that sounds like?

That sounds like. You know what I'm about to say. what that sounds like? You know what I'm about to say. You know me, so you know what I'm about to say. That's like that Jay-Z, Biggie Smalls, because a man's dead, you just crowning the guy who's doing it. That's wild. Because he's alive. Yo, that's wild, bro. That's wild.

No. That's not wild. That's wild. Yo, that's actually wild. R. Peter Kobe and respect his family. When you're seeing greatness, you do better, Cam. No, what happened is this. I don't want to see Mike again.

Kobe is the next thing. I'm not putting Mike and then Mike 2 under Mike. It's the same thing. Let's see what you say. They're the same exact thing. All right. Well, I'm not putting them under there. I'm putting LeBron under there, and then we'll do Kobe after that.

But what I was going to say is this. Outside of basketball is not even a question of who's better with Mike and LeBron. Like, outside of basketball, LeBron's number one. Like, as far as his community service and everything he's done. Hello? Are we talking philanthropy or are we talking basketball? I'm just telling you. No, because listen.

No, we're talking basketball. Yeah, come on. No, but I got to say one thing. I'm not letting that go. I'm not letting that go. We're talking basketball. We're not talking about homeless or Salvation Army. We're talking basketball.

We're talking basketball, but I got to say one thing. Okay. LeBron put his niggas on, right? And I know we're talking basketball, but nobody gotta say one thing. LeBron put his niggas on, right? And I know we all talk about basketball, but nobody brings up the nigga Brian Windhorst on ESPN. He's been on ESPN for 20 years only because he

followed LeBron James through high school. So basically, when LeBron James got to the NBA, he went to the ESPN. ESPN was like, we'll give you a job because you know about LeBron. You've been following him since seventh grade. So he's plainly been on ESPN for 20 years. Is that what makes him your GOAT?

No, I'm just telling you the type of shit he be on. They're getting niggas bred. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Oh, you hear me? First of all, I never said he was my GOAT. Don't try to change my words on that. I'm just telling you. Don't try to change my words on that.

I said Mike's a GOAT, but it's hard to fight for him every year. Okay. So, this brings us to our next topic. LeBron's son, Bronny James. Is he good or overrated? Look, I'm going to be honest with you. Mace kind of was telling me about this situation. I'm going to defer to him, and then I'm going to lie to him.

No, see, they're going to make me seem like the LeBron hater. I like LeBron. I really do. I like LeBron. I like what he does for the game. I like his consistency year after year. I even like the progression that his sons are making. I actually think the second one

will be better than the first one. You can just quote me on this because I'm hardly ever wrong. I want to go out there and say that I'm hardly ever me on this because I'm hardly ever wrong. I want to go out there and say that I'm hardly ever wrong. So, you know I'm hardly ever wrong, right? Since we was eight years old, I'm hardly ever wrong.

This is the shit while we got, you didn't get a good one. This shit right here. Exactly. This is exactly I'm hardly ever wrong. This is the problem right here.

Exactly. But I'm hardly ever wrong. This is exactly where it's telling you. He don't like it, but it's like the older brother that I'm hardly ever wrong. This is exactly where it's starting. He don't like it, but it's like the older brother that he's hardly ever wrong.

Now, we're going to look back on this, save this clip, and we're going to look back on this and we're going to see the second son. I think the second son

is going to be better. His name is Bryce. Bryce. By the way. Yeah, thank you. Bryce James. Shout out to Bryce James and shout out to Bronny. But at this present time, I think Mikey Williams is far better than Bronny James.

But tell me why, because you're putting me on the, I'm going to keep it 100. I did a little research. You put me on the Mikey Williams. I see he has an NIL deal for like 1.7. He's right behind Peyton and Eli Manning's nephew. Bronny's number one. What makes him better than Bronny? Just skill set, skill set, flat-out skill set.

You know, when you watch players, you can see where they're going. You can see he has all the polishing finishes, finishing left, right. He can shoot the ball. He can dribble the ball. He got bounce. Everything Bronny has, he has better at this point. Now, Bronny will actually be a better basketball player as time go on. But right now, when they made the selection, that was a horrible choice.

And when you say make the selection, basically. McDonald's. The McDonald's selection. they snubbed... Because Mikey has been better the whole time. Just so the audience knows, we didn't say it. Basically, Mikey Williams got snubbed for Barney James to be in the McDonald's. Yeah, that's how it feels. That's how it feels. We don't actually know, but we just know that Mikey was actually better all the way up to this point.

And then when it's time to choose McDonald's, Mikey was not in there and he was. And maybe because I lived in San Diego, I got to see the kid play time after time. And he just, he was averaging 40, averaging 30, everywhere he went. That's why they gave him all the NIL deals. And so you basically saying LeBron used his influence to kick Mikey out and get Bronny in. Is that what you're saying? That's what you're saying? I think the power of LeBron caused them to say,

we have to put Bronny in this game. I think there's countless numbers of people that would agree with me that at this present time, not in the future, at this time when, not in the future, at this time when they made that selection, Mikey should have far been better as a choice. Okay. But if you want LeBron at the game, you gotta let Mikey, you gotta let LeBron. So basically, that's what you're saying.

That's basically what I'm saying. I'm gonna stick my chest out on it. Yeah, so basically you're saying that LeB Bron is using his influence to say, look. As he should. As he should as a father. I was about to say, yo, fuck that. If you want me to show up, put my son in the joint, and we going to fuck around. But there was somebody.

And we might get you 90s and all that other shit for the team. That's what you said. And moving forward, Bronny probably will be a better player. Why do you keep saying that, but you keep saying as of right now? Because the McDonald's is based upon right now. Exactly. But I'm saying potential because Mikey already

is thinking he's lit. Mikey is already walking around with chains and lambo's. So he thinks he's already in there. I see him on the podcast. He talk man shit too. He be on Twitter talking man shit. Yeah, he thinks he's just waiting for the draft so they can say his name to tell him what he already knows. So basically what you're saying is right now, Mikey's...

He's been pro since he was probably 14 years old. Right, but Mikey's pro, but you're saying that Bronny's going to be better than him in the long run? Yes. And are you saying that Mikey's going to go pro, or he's just lit right now? Mikey has to go pro. Yeah, he has to go pro. He has to go run. Yes. And are you saying that Mikey's going to go pro or he's just lit right now? Mikey has to go pro. Yeah, he has to go pro.

He has to go pro. Okay. I'm always right. Okay. I like that. I like that. I don't know. I see you going to go

fuck with Penny in Memphis. Yeah. That might be a bad idea, but he'll still make it. I'm going out on a limb. Okay. Let me get some T.O. for this. On that note, we're going to go to a break and we'll be make it. I'm going out on a limb. Let me get some tea off of this. On that note, we're going to go to a break, and we'll be right back.

We'll be right back. She call this thing about toxic Four years of counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening, me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about it. She want to be free.

Why am I in this woman's way? She want to be free. Hell, I don't want to see her walk away. I wish somebody told me the rules. Disagreements let her win. Then it's cool. then it's cool. Even when I'm right, this ain't about you. Welcome back to It Is What It Is.

We're going to go ahead and get into the next topic. Now that the trade deadline has come and gone, who do you think got better? The Dallas Mavericks or the Phoenix Suns? Oh. Or the Phoenix Suns. We were supposed to end that other thing before we got into this. I don't think he should have actually got in the game at all on the McDonald's.

But let's move on forward with what you're saying. So you're saying that Bernie... No, I'm not laughing. Nah, I'm not laughing because Bron is my man. I like LeBron too. I do, but... You've been hating on him since the show started, man.

People want me to be a trusted voice. That's why you brought me on here, right? You want me to lie or you want me to tell a truth? Listen, I'm just asking because you know better than me.

Yes, yes. You know that circuit way better than me. Yes. So I'm just saying, just saying, Bronny shouldn't even have been in the game, period. He shouldn't have been on that team. Okay. He's good, but McDonald's are for people who are great right now.

He will be great, but right now. You keep saying right now. Because I'm trying to. When is he going to get good? Like, when is he going to get good? When is he supposed to get good? Some people have. It happened for people at later times. Like Dwayne Wade.

He turned around in the tournament. What's his name? Stephen Curry. He was not good in high school. But then he came alive in the tournament. There's a lot of people that happened for him. It doesn't mean he won't be great. I'm saying right now he don't belong on McDonald's.

Okay, I'm not knocking that. But what I'm saying is this. When exactly is he going to be good in your estimation? When is this? So, all right, change the question. If LeBron wasn't his father, he wouldn't be getting none of this shit. No accolades, no D1 offers, no NILs, nothing. If LeBron James was not his father, would he get any of this?

I've seen he was ranked number 20. 20% of it. But you can't do 20% because the average person is getting 20%. You're not going to know him because LeBron James is not your father. All right. You get what I'm saying? I'm not harping on a kid because I know that's how it's going to look, but I wanted to make sure I made my point.

It sounds like you're harping on him. No. It definitely sounds like you're harping on the nigga. I live in San Diego. Mikey's from San Diego. Now you rep the SD. Yo, you a wild nigga, man. Now nigga rep the SD.

All right. Yo, what's... So, next topic. Okay. Dallas Mavericks or Phoenix Suns? Who do you think got better? I'm going to go with the Phoenix Suns. Oh, God.

I have zero trust in Chris Paul. I really don't like Chris Paul. So why are you saying the Suns got better? Because that's my opinion, nigga. I like Kevin Durant. What the fuck is you talking about you don't trust Chris Paul Chris Paul got to get the ball to KD

I trust Kevin Durant though that's who I do trust I trust Devin Booker I think that Chris Paul is a jinx I hope that he doesn't jinx this situation I think everywhere he goes he fucks shit up they give niggas this you know and niggas be like, oh, he's the perfect point guard.

He's the floor general. Yeah, the floor. How are you leading the floor if we don't win? Yeah, we never win, my nigga. Oh, my goodness. The guy did a chip one time. It's like he brings experience. Experience in what?

Not winning no motherfucking chips and not really getting to the championship. All I'm saying is KD, I think that that team got better than what Dallas did. I don't really think that Luka makes his team better. I think he's going to respect Kyrie because he thinks Kyrie's a great player, but I don't really think he makes the team better. I think he's an outstanding talent,

but you don't get rid of Rick Carlisle. Rick Carlisle bought you a championship. And there was something going on between him and Rick Carlisle for Rick Carlisle to leave because you can see where Rick Carlisle is. But now you got Jason Kidd. Yeah, I'm not mad at Jason Kidd at all, neither. Jason Kidd will be the one to get through to

Kyrie. He might be. But what I'm saying is you won a championship with Rick Carlisle. You didn't win one with Luka yet. I'm not saying that you're not. But if you ask me who got better, I'm going to go with Phoenix. It's two individual players. I don't know if they're going to play good together.

I rest my case on that. I think Kyrie is one of the best players to watch in the game. So I think Dallas got better, actually. Yeah. I like Kyrie, too, though. Kyrie my nigga. Don't get me fucked up like Kyrie ain't my better, actually. Yeah. I like Kyrie, too, though. Kyrie my nigga. Don't get me fucked up like Kyrie ain't my nigga, though. Don't do that.

Don't act like I don't fuck with Kyrie. But you got to look at the track record. And I don't think anything Kyrie does is wrong. I just think he bucks the system. And I'm with bucking the system. But at the end of the day, you got to look. He leaves Cleveland to go to Boston. he bucks the system and I'm with bucking the system but at the end of the day you gotta look he leaves he leaves Cleveland to go to Boston

whatever happened in Boston it wasn't right it didn't end good then he goes to the Nets whatever happened in the Nets whether it's the pandemic

whether it's the vaccine whether it's somebody's hurt they don't really get a fair shot with the Nets so he don't really get to do his thing with the Mets.

Now he's going to Dallas. Do you like Bradley Bill? Who do you like better, Bradley Bill or Kyrie Irving? Just asking. For which team? For your team. I like Kyrie Irving better. I like Kyrie.

Do you like Damian Lillard better or Kyrie Irving? Kyrie. Me too. Kim, you're growing. Yeah. I like this. Yeah, but listen to me, I'm about to tell you.

Bradley Beal, which you said we both like Kyrie better, has a $230 million signing contract. Damian Lillard up to $300 million contract. Why Kyrie Irving is looking for a deal? Something's not right. If he's this good, and these niggas is up to two,

$300 million contracts. That's the perfect point. You set me up for that. Something's not right. So that's how I feel about that. Kyrie, my nigga. I think it's a good time for him to make his own sneaker.

Could. Could be. I don't know if that's how it goes. It's a new sneaker, but okay. All right all right we're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back Thank you. She's tired of hearing I don't know What's happening in me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about She wanna be free

Why am I in this one way Welcome back to It Is What It Is. We're gonna jump right back into these questions. Now that Deion Sanders is in Colorado, do you think he left Jackson State hanging? Wait, you're going to have to forgive me. I have to say this. We can't go forward without me saying this. Put the camera right here.

Chris Paul, if you lose with Devin Book on one wing and KD on the other side, with a pick and roll from Aiden, you shouldn't even be playing no more. with Devin Book on one wing and KD on the other side, with a pick and roll from Aiden, you shouldn't even be playing no more. I don't think. So, do you think he left Jackson State? Deion Sanders? It depends, it depends. If you're the bank accountant,

you think he made the right move. If you sent your kid that could have went to a Division I school to go be with Dion and then Dion skips out, you feel a way about that? What do you think? I don't think he left the family.

You don't think so? Man, fuck all that. All that dumb shit. This nigga took... Listen, he taking niggas in the portal. The niggas who nice going in the portal. If you're supposed to go to D1 to fuck with, you came to fuck with me before

in Jackson State and I'm going to Colorado, you can go in the portal and come fuck with me in Colorado. Look, nobody was thinking about no Jackson State. Nobody gave a fuck about Jackson State. Nobody was like, hey, I wonder what's going on in Jackson, Mississippi. You didn't send my kid to go play at Jackson State. But what did he promise in Jackson State?

What did he promise? I don't know. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. No, he promised he was going to win there. Okay. They didn't win. They won their little section, the SWAT.

They won that. I thought they lost in the championship. They lost the whole shit. They won their division, though. I know what you're saying. They didn't win the shit, but let me ask you this. Nobody knew about them niggas, though. You wasn't thinking about Grambling and all that.

That was like from the Cosby era. Nobody was thinking about Grambling State with the Grambling Sweat and all that. He did bring a lot of money there. He did bring a lot of money to the school. Let's say what he did well.

He brought a lot of kids that would not have gone to a black college to get the black college experience, but we were getting that experience in the hood. Yeah. He took most of his salary and put it towards the college. Out of his pocket. When the

city went down, the whole city went down with bad water and all that, he called his friends at Walmart to get not just the team water and all that, the city water. They playing games. That's a great thing. Yeah.

I didn't know that. Yeah. I'm on Deion's side now. Yeah, the nigga calls Walmart and calls his partners, you know, when it's a problem. He calls his partners Pepsi. Yo, we need a donation because there's bad water going on. Then we got a game.

We need to get these people to the next town because we got a game and we can't even take a shower because the water's bad. Yo, Michael Strahan, let me call you up. I know you got your own suit collection. Some of these kids are coming in raggedy. They don't know whether we're at Hoodie. They don't know whether we're at Blazer. Could you get us some suits? Me and Mike Strahan, everybody gets Michael Strahan suits. It's a bunch of stuff that he did outside. What does a Strahan suit look like? I mean, I don't know, but it's better than obviously what the fuck they had on

if you called for the donation for the suits and shit. I don't know what it looked like. I'm just saying that Dion is leveraging his friendships to help the school out. And that's great. And I want people to know, I'm here to be the other voice. So if there's a person that was going to North Carolina, let's say they were going to Duke,

let's say they could have played at LSU, and then they see Dion, this is my dream to play for Dion. And then I forego LSU, and I come to Jackson State with you. And then you have this epiphany from God that now you're going to Colorado. You're saying you were for the black people and now you're at an all white school. I'm just giving

you the other voice of what people are saying. How does that make sense for the kid who you sat in his living room and told his mother you're going to take care of their child and then the next year you're gone and you leave them with your buddy to be at Jackson State.

The thing about it, Mace, is you're a little older. You're from an older era. You don't understand what the portal is. You can go back to LSU if you go through the portal or you can go with Deion to Colorado. It isn't like when we used to play where you have to stay at the school that you signed to.

No, I understand that. I'm saying, but as you did not go to LSU, there's a new top prospect that has that position. So you're going back to LSU, but that spot is gone. But there's other schools, and they ain't just LSU. You got to weigh your options out after that. And not saying that you won't go with Dion Like that number one pick that kid that was number one that year In high school that came to this school. He's going to Colorado. His son is going to Colorado with him

His son is going to do it. They going to Colorado running like he leaving everybody at Jackson State Secondly, they play with his bread. Let's talk about all the shit that they didn't do. Deion knows his money. They selling out the stadium was supposed to be sold out. So that equals a million dollars. He go check the gate. It's 375,000 there.

That affects his pay. It's a lot of shit going on behind the scenes that he not going to talk about, but it was happening. So at the end of the day, him bringing attention to that school, I think was a big deal but it was happening. So at the end of the day, him bringing attention to that school, I think, was a big deal. That was great. It was really great. I get where you're coming from. My issue is only

don't oversell. If you're in it just to make your money, then make your money. But don't make it a black thing. Don't pull the Kanye card like it's about black people on one time and then for the money say something else.

That's all I'm saying. But what I'm saying, when did he do that? Like, niggas act like he Rosa Parks. Niggas act like he Louis Farrakhan. We know Deion Sanders

from football. We don't know this nigga from... I know him from Must Be the Money. Yeah, yeah. I know him from Must Be the Money.

Must Be the Money. Yeah, with the curls, with the shades. That's the Deion I like. Yeah, I MC him on it. So I'm with all of that. Because, see, what niggas fail to realize is that because Deion talking proper, and he talking a little slick, that now niggas talking about,

oh, he ain't doing for the black people. Deion, we would not know Deion Sanders if it was not for football. We know this nigga from catching footballs. And dancing. Yeah, and all that shit. Gold chains and jerry curls. Mm-hmm. We know, niggas be like, oh, he like the black people there. I'm not saying that people like that don't have a point, but he never was in it to move the black culture forward. He used Jackson State to be a head coach because there was no other D1 school where a lot of them be a head

coach and he didn't want to be an assistant coach under nobody. So it really wasn't about the black people. It was just about his advantage. I can't answer that for him, but my opinion is not saying that it wasn't the black people. Because when Shannon Sharp interviewed him, he gave him the Hail Mary pass

to clear it up. But that's his boy. I'm here to be the other voice. I'm here to be the other voice. I'm here to be the other voice that's called Cap when you see me. So Dion capping. I go to church, so I know how it sounds.

So tell me about it. So Dion, because you go to church. Yes, I go to church. You can read Dion and say he capping on everything he's saying. That's what you're saying. Cap. Capicon might be a sign.

Okay. But I love Dion. Next. All right. We're going to take a short break. Hold on. Dion, Cap. Cap-a-corn.

The whole shit. Not an Aquarius. Not a Scorpio. Cap-a-corn. Because you go to church, you can read that nigga. Yes, yes. That's how I had a hard time in church because I would read through it. That's cap.

That's wild. Okay, we're going to take a short break. We'll be right back. D.R., we love you, D.R. I'm on your side, D.R. I'm on your side, D.R. You're right. Don't sound like you're on your side. It is what it is. She called this thing It is what it is. No problem, babe. She tired of hearing, I don't know. My seven and me won't fall, oh, oh. Dealing with this thing called trust.

But she really thinking about it. She want to be free. Welcome back to It Is What It Is. We're going to go ahead and talk about our next topic. With Devin Haney, Shakur Stevens, and Tank Davis leading the way, who do you really think the best boxer is at 135 pounds? That's an interesting one. That's a good question.

I think you left out Tiafemo, but Tiafemo should be in that list. Didn't he just lose? Yeah, he lost. Why the fuck? He should be on the list. Everybody she named is undefeated. Oh, they are? Yeah.

I think Tank is at... Tank is number two. Tank is number two. Tio Fimo had one good fight against Lomacheco, and now niggas be Tio Fimo-ed out. Tio Fimo's just gonna go bum and all that. But he backflips. That's what he flips.

If I want to see the circus, I'll go to the circus. Okay, and his dad is good for boxing. His dad? His dad is super ignorant. He sells tickets. I'm talking about the fighters. Personally, I'm sick of the whole shit because nobody who's supposed to fight

fights each other. If you want to see fighters fight, you might as well go to Twitter nobody who's supposed to fight fights each other. If you want to see fighters fight, you might as well go to Twitter. That's where they really be fighting at. Devin wants to fight. Devin wants to fight. And I like Devin, just when he's not getting punched. If he's not getting punched, I like him.

Yeah, and I like Ryan Garcia if I'm on YouTube. There's a lot of niggas I like for different reasons, my nigga. Who the fuck is going to fight that's supposed to fight? Everybody talks shit, arguing on Twitter, whether it's Tank arguing with Shakur or this person arguing with that person. Nobody ever fights. And Shakur is trying to act like he wants to fight Tank, but he really doesn't want to fight Tank,

but he keeps tweeting like he wants to fight. Everybody tweeting. It's not even that way. I know we're talking about 135 or 140, but when the fuck is Terrence Crawford going to fight Errol Spence? I'm sick. I'm really sick of the whole boxing situation. That's why a lot of niggas fuck with the UFC.

I think Errol is ducking Terrence though. Errol is ducking Terrence. I know Terrence said he ran down with that skillet. He said he had that brand. He hadriller. He said he had that brand. He had that money. He said he had that money. He said, what you want to do? And he said, you want to talk to Al Aimer.

He said, talk to Al Aimer. Yeah, I was like, yeah. He said he ran down. He said he was on the boss. But Terrence, I like both of them. Terrence Crawford, my man. But the reason Terrence Crawford talking spicy because he just got out of his deal with Bob Arum.

So now he going boy-stuff. He feeling his shell. He going boy-stuff. So who do you like between Shakur and Garcia? Who do you like out of Shakur and Garcia? I don't give a fuck, bro. To be honest with you. I don't give a fuck about neither one of them.

Who do you want to see fight? Devin Haney and who? Shakur or Tank? Who do you want to see fight? Devin Haney and who? Shakur or Tank? Who do you want to see him fight? I think he could beat Tank. Look, I want to see the fight. And I said think because I'm always right. I'm not going to say it unless I know it.

Listen, man. You can trust my voice. Listen, I like Tank. I actually like Rowley, too. You know what I'm saying? I like he just got caught. Rowley was looking good until the last moment. Yeah, I went in the dream. I like rolling man. I like that division.

What they should do and I'm not going to do it. Years ago. That's how Andre Ward got poppin. He had the six man tournament. Yeah, but a light heavyweights it was uh andre war arthur abrams yeah frock it was it was really good and then they determined the champion these not fighting each other be talking about they want to get rid of yeah king and at least when don king was there was fighting don't fight each other period yeah they need to do that tournament they did the same thing with bernard and the rest of them when they when the same thing with Bernard and the rest of them when they got Trinidad and the rest of them all together. That's one thing you can say about Floyd, man.

Floyd fought everybody. Everybody. That's one thing they say about Roy Jones. They be like, you didn't fight this. But Floyd fought everybody he was supposed to fight. It don't matter if it was Cotto, Pacquiao, Shane Mosley, Oscar De La Hoya. You think they're trying to protect their old, though? That's what I really see everybody trying to do.

Stay undefeated like that means something. Muhammad Ali lost a lot of times. Pacquiao got like six or seven losses. He's still marquee. He's still marquee. I would like to see Adrian Broner get down to 135 and fight Tank. That would be good. Or fight Floyd. He act like he could beat Floyd.

Adrian, you watching this? Come up here. It is what it is. We want to know. Do you really think you could beat Floyd? Or are you on that Capricorn with Deion? I want to know. I ain't ducking no smoke.

I want to know. What you think? I know that's your man from Cleveland, so. He's from Cincinnati. Ohio. That's crazy. Nah, what I'm saying is this. I'll be honest with you.

You hear a lot of shit they talk about. Everyone spends fuck Floyd up and sparring. Yeah. The other kid, I don't know if it was, I think it was Shakur, they said touched Floyd up and sparring. I don't care who it is. Floyd is like Mike Jordan tonight. If you put Floyd in that stage with everybody, I'm not betting against Floyd. I don't care if it's Crawford.

I don't care if it's Spence. I don't care who it is. I don't bet against Floyd on primetime until he lose on primetime. I don't care what you did to him in the gym. He's too smart of a fighter. of a fighter. Welcome back to It Is What It Is. We're just going to go ahead

and jump into this next question. How do you guys feel about Scottie Pippen Jr. being on the same team as Malik Beasley knowing that Malik used to date his mother? Shit fucked up.

What the fuck are you doing, Rob Palenka? Yo, Rob Palenka, that's the GM. You have to do this due diligence before you get niggas on the team. You have to be like, yo. That's a destruction to the locker room. Yeah, that's one of them. Yo, they do all this background check

to see if niggas smoking, see if niggas criminal records, see what the... Are you checking to see if niggas smoking, see if niggas criminal records, see what the... Are you checking to see if a nigga bought another nigga mother before you get them on the team? You don't know... You know what that could lead to in the locker room? Yeah, that got to be very uncomfortable.

Nah, nah, you don't do no shit like that. But how do you know they slept together?.. . . First of all, first of all, Subjisha, she's wild disrespectful. You're putting your whole family in a wild, dangerous situation. Yeah. Period. You're both future.

You're both Malik Beasley. Now you run around with Michael Jordan's son. Like Flaygo. Mike should Jordan's son. Mike should have stopped that. Mike did that on purpose. To be honest with you. Mike didn't like the way he was talking in the last dance. Scotty Pippen been talking greasy

saying LeBron the GOAT and all this other shit. Nigga said, word. Because Mike one of them ill, petty niggas. He like, now my son born your baby mother. That's crazy. Because you've been talking crazy. Like, you know I always win. My son bones your baby mother, and that's that.

She said they never knew them like that. They never knew who? She said something to that effect, that they weren't close. Who's Scotty? Scotty and Mike wasn't close. That's why she was able to do it. I don't give a fuck that the world thinks that that's Scottie and Mike,

nigga. Regardless of whatever, she's born a lot of public figures, and she's being flagrant about it. Me personally, I hit it. She wouldn't play them games. Slide through the set, me and Mike, next time you're in Miami,

slide through the set, man, since you passed the pussy out. We got a couple dollars for you. Slide through, Larry. I'm with it. This has been going on for a minute. Now, there's one thing with niggas like, you know, like Jason Richardson was born to Steve Nash's wife. Yeah.

You know, we just got that shit going on up there in Boston with the coaches. That was crazy. Yeah, yeah. And you cheated on Nia. Yeah, cheated on Nia. Cheated on Nia is wild. Like, that's wild. So, this has been situations to go on corporate or players,

what other players' wives, players, what other players' wives, but to actually have a nigga be able to tell you what's your love because I fucked your mother

is crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. That's mad. So that's going to erupt the locker room. That's going to make the locker room bad for everybody.

Yeah. So I don't know how much team's chemistry is going to come from that. Rob Polinka fucked up with that. I'll leave it on that. That was a fuck up, Rob.

Bad. You fucked up bad. That's sad. Yeah, that was bad. Get him out of there. Okay. Anything else you want to add to that? No?

Okay. That's crazy. Well, thank you guys for joining into this episode of It Is What It Is, and we will see you next time. Outro Music They doing them two for five.