IT IS WHAT IT IS - IT IS WHAT IT IS TALK EPISODE 11

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

WITH SPECIAL GUEST "SWAGGY P"... IS HE GOOD OR IS HE NOT SH*T...

Still moving reckless, I snatch you right out your Lexus. I'm moving black like it's Tetris, 100,000 by breakfast. Welcome back to It Is What It Is. I'm Treasure Wilson, a.k.a. Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Cam and Mace. How we doing today? Good, we good. Great, great, great. Okay, so today we have a very special guest, Nick Young, also known as Swaggy P.

Nick is from Los Angeles, California, and played basketball at USC. He was selected as the 16th overall pick in the 2007 NBA Draft by the Washington Wizards. During his career, he played for the Clippers, 76ers, Lakers, Warriors, and Nuggets. Nick was a 2018 NBA champion and a two-time first-team all-conference selection in the Pac-10. Hi, Nick. Thank you for being here. It's a hell of an introduction, man. What's good, man?

What's good? All right. We ain't even going to hold you. We got to get you about 10 minutes and get you back to the film. I hear the kids in the background and everything. What do you think about D'Angelo Russell, bitch-ass, back at the Lakers? What do you feel about that? How do you feel about D'Angelo Russell, bitch ass, back at the Lakers? What do you feel about that? How do you feel about that shit, man?

He back at the Lakers. I don't think that shit right. You know what? I'm going to give them a pass if they win. You know, as long as they win it, I'm going to let them live. You feel me? Do you still fuck with him? No.

Yeah, that's what I wanted to know. That's what I wanted to know because I's what I wanted to know, because I wouldn't even fuck with the nigga never. Was there another altercation that nobody knows about with you and him? Yeah, most definitely. That's right. That's my nigga.

That's my nigga. That's my nigga. That's my nigga right there. That's my nigga. So, also nigga. That's my nigga right there. That's my nigga. So, also, let me ask you a question. You and Gilbert Arenas, of course, are super duper cool. That's your man. Why did you get fined when he pulled the pistols out?

Why did the Wizards fine you? That was my question. Yeah, yeah. Why did they fine you and he pulled the pistols out? I was like, what the fuck they firing my nigga Swag for? They fired me 20 Gs for that. I don't know. You know, I was going along with them.

Yeah. But why did they fire you, though? What did you do? Because they said I failed. Like, I was a part of his, like. Oh, the little shit. When he came out the huddle with this shit? They said that you were like, oh.

That was fucked up. Even if you did participate, you was a victim. You feel me? Let me ask you, do you think you could beat Gilbert Serena tonight? Beat him tonight? If you was to play him right now, do you think you could beat him in basketball?

Oh, I killed Gil back in D.C. We played one-on-one many times. Because he always fuck with you. So this is what I'll say. My thing is this. I think that you should still be in the NBA, first of all. First and foremost. And I think, my personal opinion,

you may know better because you've been playing longer. I think Gilbert, it wasn't time. He was better than you, but as time went along, he stopped playing, and now I think you can beat him. So my question to you, and I'm going to present it to Gilbert when I speak to him, you know I got to get ready to bust Mario Chalmers' ass. The NBPA is on board.

I've seen that. Yeah, I'm working with the NBPA. They're on board with sponsoring this game. Why don't you kill Chalmers like that, man? That was crazy. Y'all talking bad about Chalmers. Nah, nah, I like, nah. The keeper of the buck is all marketing.

Chalmers is cool. Yeah, that was just to get the game ready. Nah, that's my man. I got to do all the marketing. He's quiet. I don't know. I'm making sure I look good. Yo, yo, Swag, back in the days,

do you think you should have won that award over KD for National Player of the Year? Because I put him out the tournament. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking when I saw that, I'd say, yo, Swaggy P was supposed to win that National Player of the Year. KD, that was like the first time they seen like a seven-foot guard, somebody shooting threes and all that stuff.

It was like a unicorn. So I get it, though. I get it for sure. Because y'all both was getting 30 at that time. So I definitely wanted to ask that. Do you think looking back on everything, do you think you had the career you wanted to have?

Ty Dolla $ign, For the most part, yeah. You know, I think, you know, I played as long as I could. I played for 11, almost 12 years. I feel like I should have got more money though. You know, I feel like as time went on, the style, the style of play is like my style of play now. Back then they wasn't used to like people like me and J.R. coming off the bench and just shooting any shot we wanted.

But now it's like they want that. They like to steal back shots. They like the crazy shots and stuff like that. I was telling Killer that before. I was telling Killer that before, that your game and Gilbert Arena's game is more about today game and not back in the days. I also wanted to ask you, since we

got you here, what made you leave Golden State and why didn't you just stay there instead of going to the next team? Man, what messed me up was DeMarcus Cousins. The Marcos are me. You know, DeMarcus Cousins. Man, it was either DeMarcus or me.

You know, DeMarcus was an all-star at the time, so he took my check I was going to get, so it was either. DeMarcus Cousins? Yeah, they picked DeMarcus Cousins up. That's the year when they lost to Kawhi in them. Yeah, DeMarcus owe you money then. DeMarcus owe you money. And tell Gilbert to give you that 20 back.

You need that 20 back. For real, Gilbert, if you watching this, we need that 20 back. Yo, Nick, do you think Dylan Brooks is good or he ain't shit? Straight to it. Straight to it. Straight to it. Huh? it. Straight to it. Huh? They need him.

The NBA needs him. I didn't ask you that. I asked you, do you... Niggas need Dennis Rodman sometime, too. Do you think he good or is he ain't shit? That's what I'm asking you. I didn't ask you if Memphis need him. I know he's a good fit on Memphis.

If you in the park, are you picking him? Oh, no, no, no. I'm not picking him on my group team. Well, I might, because you need somebody that's going to play dirty. Yeah, if you're trying to go nut, you're trying to go nut, you pick...

Wow, that's crazy. I'm going to let it go, because we're doing an interview. He's going trash and getting people an interview. He's going trash. He's getting people's head. He's good for that. He needs somebody that don't care really about shooting. I like to shoot, so I know he ain't going to shoot all the time. So you would pick him solely to get your rebounds?

Yeah. Give me a rebound to play defense. All right. He Bill Lambert. He done his Rodman. You know, you rebound, you pass, and you get out the way. He built Cartwright. Yeah, exactly.

We didn't know that Kendrick Lamar and Looney's your cousin. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. What's it like growing up with them guys? Shit, growing up with Kendrick, he used to play on my team. He was a little traveling boss. He was just shorter than us. He wasn't good? Kendrick was trash.

I know it. You said you bust Kendrick Amore? Hey, yo, that was great. Hey, yo, that was great. We're going to let it slide. We even, yeah. That was great. My bad, my bad, I'm slipping.

I'm slipping, I'm bugging. Can you? Nah, I gotta leave him alone, leave him alone. Little, he's not like a little fast guard, like you know, when you little, you gotta be quick and have hands. He's little and slow? No, you say he's fast.

He's slow? Yeah, he's, normally he's small? Yeah. Normally he's small and fast. Kendrick was small and slow. That's crazy. Who do you think is going to the finals this year? Oh, I want to say Boston and Phoenix. Okay. What do you think happens to people like, where's John Wall right now?

Why is John Wall just getting shipped all over the place? Yeah. He's an all-star. He's a real good guy. Why do you think they're doing that to John Wall? I think, I don't know. I think if he. Let me ask you this before you answer.

What team he play for? I don't know. Do you know who he play for? No, he don't play, right? He ain't on no team, right? You don't even know. That's what I'm talking about. That's my point. You don't even know where John Wall is right now. Why would they do that to John Wall?

You know what I'm saying? I don't know. I'm asking you. That's crazy. That's your circle. You only form an NBA player. I thought you would know. That's your man from the Wizards. Yeah. But I think John need, like, for players like that, they need, like, a jump shot for people.

Like, I don't know, the NBA, like, people that can shoot. Like, right now, they label him and Russ. If Russ was hurt like that and not the lead for two years, I don't think, like, they trying to do Russ the same way. So, for me, I think John need to, I don't know, reinvent himself so he can shoot, he can play in this style of era, this new era of basketball.

I don't know. When you watch the game, give me one player, when you watch the NBA, any NBA game, any team, you be like, that nigga ain't shit, man. Yo, I hate this nigga. Who's the one nigga that you be like, yo, I hate this nigga, man? Because it's one nigga that everybody hate. Especially y'all.

The thing about it is, you're a former NBA player, so you really would know. But I really would like to know. Who ain't shit you be like, yo, I fucking hate Tobias Harris. I can take Tobias Harris' spot, man. Like, who do you hate as a two-guard? You hate Tobias Harris, huh? No, no, I'm just using an example. Somebody who would play your position.

Because, like, for instance, I see Jimmy Butler walk out the locker room one time when Philly was supposed to re-sign him. They didn't re-sign him. They picked Tobias Harris and Jimmy Butler was like, Tobias Harris? Over me? Tobias Harris?

So that just came to my mind. That's just what Jimmy Butler said. Who would you say, a two-guard in the NBA, that you'd just be like, this nigga ain't shit. How you get a job? He ain't gonna say it. He ain't gonna say it. I ain't gonna say it. I can't. I don't know.

Somebody on the Lakers probably. You said it. Whoever the two guard is on the Lakers. This is an argument I have with a lot of my friends. Do you think that Chris Middleton is worth $170 million?

Nah. Not no more. Not no more. You know what? Because I have this argument, man. You know what? $170. What I say is this. Five many years.

I think it's five years. See, my thing is this. It's the new NBA contracts. But what I will say, this is what I will say, Nick. He got to chip out there. Some niggas, they be a little about a half a billion dollars in with Portland and don't have a chip.

So the reason I ask that because me and my friend argue about that all the time and he gets mad. He's like, how they gonna give him $170 million? I'm like, at least they got a chip. They got a chip out of it. But I'm gonna take your word. He don't deserve $170 million.

$170? Ooh. We need yes or no answers. Yes or no swag. What happened? What'd you say? I didn't hear you. Do we deserve it or not?

Do we deserve it? Do we deserve it? I'm going to say all players deserve getting their money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got it. But is he deserve it? I'm going to say all players deserve to get their money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But is he worth it? I don't know. I don't think so, but he deserve it for the boys. Okay.

Okay. Let's reframe that question because I see you trying to hide. Yeah. Who is the easiest starter score on? The easiest starter score on? The easiest starter score on? Yeah. Put it like this. Pause this question. Who you had your way with? Pause.

When you played. The hardest one was probably Jimmy Kawhi. I ain't gonna lie. The hardest. Easiest probably I would say Mario Chalmers. That's easy. the hardest, easiest probably, I would say. Mario Chalmers. Oh, that's easy.

That's, that's, that's, that's like. That's, that's, that's, that nigga play, play on high. I hear that. Yeah, that's easy. That's easy work right there. You might get them, man. I seen some of y'all, I seen a little pictures and stuff. Yeah, we, we, we was all right.

Where did you get the name Swaggy P from? You know, it came to me in a dream, man. I mean, I've been swagging for so long, man. I haven't watched y'all, man, since Horses and Carrots. Why you don't rap like that no more, man? Why you ain't Horses and Carrots no more, man? That shit was 20 years ago. we got a new bag to get Nick let me ask you one last question before we get you out of here

are you high right now nah I don't do drugs okay good man that's a nigga trying to get back in the NBA and you deserve to be back, nigga. Bird, you got anything else, Murda? No, that's it. Yo, Nick, thank you for your time, bro.

We appreciate you. You came to death row, a.k.a. it is what it is. We appreciate your time, baby. Thank you, Nick. And we'll be right back. All right. Bye. No trust, but she really thinking about it. She want to be free. Why am I in this one? She want to be free.

Welcome back to It Is What It Is. I'm Treja Wilson, a.k.a. Stat Baby, along with your hosts, Cam and Mace. How are you? You all right? Love it, love it, love it. Good, good. Okay, we are in the middle of the NBA playoffs, and already Draymond Green got suspended for one game.

During game two, Draymond stomped on King center Sabonis. The Warriors lost that game to the Kings by eight points. This is the first time since 2007 the Warriors are 0-2 in the playoffs. Steve Kerr commented about Draymond's suspension, saying, We don't have a single championship here without Draymond Green. That in the playoffs. Steve Kerr commented about Draymond's suspension, saying, We don't have a single championship here without Draymond Green. That's the truth. We will go to bat for Draymond and go to battle with him every day of the week.

What are your thoughts? I agree with Steve Kerr. I mean, you need Draymond Green. You need players who are going to get gritty, who's going to get dirty, who's going to get down. Draymond gets a bad rap a lot of times, but I don't think he's right. You don't get those champions. He's Bill Cartwright. Yeah.

Luke Longley. Yeah. Let me ask you this, because I get into a lot of arguments with niggas. Because niggas, you know, to me, Draymond's underappreciated by a lot of people. And I'll be like, Dennis Rodman couldn't bring the ball up. Come on, Kim, don't be starting to compare Dennis Rodman to Draymond or Charles Barkley. I wouldn't compare him to Charles Barkley or Karl Malone. Definitely not.

But other power forwards, I think that he's super good. He has the most triple doubles in Golden State history. Wow. A lot of people play for Golden State. So he's the triple double leader of a franchise. And I just think that all they look at is all the gritty stuff. Last year when they played Boston in the championship, there's down 0-1, tied up 1-1, and the Draymond said,

let me get to work. He snatched Jalen Brown's neck. He pushed Tatum on the floor. Whoever else has a problem, uh-1, tied up 1-1, and Draymond said, let me get to work. He snatched Jalen Brown's neck. He pushed Tatum on the floor. Whoever else has a problem, uh-oh, y'all are in the way of this championship. And he went and got it. Then he went and got it. So I think this is just what Draymond does in the playoffs.

I think it was a little excessive because it looked like he stomped on a nigga, which he did, but Holmwing grabbed his leg. Holmwing might have been smart. He grabbed his foot. Holmwing might have lined him. He might have lined him. He did. He did. Because Imwing grabbed his leg. Holmwing might have been smart. He grabbed his foot. Holmwing might have lined him. He might have lined him. He did. He did.

Because I was thinking about it. I don't think he did nothing wrong. Like, if he grabbed his ankle, just think, if he would have twisted it the wrong way, he could have tore his ankle. That's a fact. So, you can't grab my ankle and put me in a figure four and expect me to just let you do that. Yeah, I mean, and then after the game, he was too cool with it, getting stomped out.

He was like, I ain't got no problem. You know, it's part of the playoff. Stomp me in my chest. I'm at the locker room, my nigga. You ever stomp me in my chest, I don't get the nigga outside the bus, the locker room. Feet on me. Feet, hands, pistols on you.

As always, don't ever put your feet on me, my nigga. Foot, sock, barefoot, don't touch me with your feet. Yeah, but on another note, what if just hypothetically thinking, what if this is the way Golden State is setting Draymond up to move him out? They had those rumors

before about trading Draymond and shit. Because he just, he punched Poole, and now he used to do this right here. If they don't win, it's almost like he gave them an out to blame it on him. Right. That's the only thing I'm thinking outside of that. What I will

say is this, man. Andrew Wiggins and John Poole, y'all got that fucking money. I ain't seen y'all all season. Where's the Jordan Poole from last year? Where's that nigga? You're doing everything. Ice Spice.

He's a munch now. You fuck with Ice Spice? Yeah. You a munch? Hey, yo, Tom around. You that serious, mother? All jokes aside? Now, that serious. I didn't know that. You worth everything. I'm not throwing this business out there. You heard it from me, a little birdie.

You a much. Another thing you NBA niggas gotta realize is this, man. They know when you get the bag. They know you got a fresh $130 million, nigga, $140 million, whatever it was. And to be honest with you, I think you deserve the money,

but you really got that on a sympathy because the niggas over at Golden State was like, damn, what we gonna do now? We had some time to renegotiate. Draymond done knocked this nigga out. Yeah. Which, you know, I don't support that because they're teammates.

And that's just a rumor, but they say, you know, he took it on a shopping spree. Just to add to that, he did spend half a million on a date with I-Spice, so. Half a million dollars? That's the whole thing in itself. Where's your big bro at, though? Yo, where?

Hey, yo. Yo, all my niggas in Milwaukee, because that's where. Even in Milwaukee? Yeah, yo. Talk the pool. Half a million dollars on a date, which I ain't knocking. Shout out to Ice Spice. Bronx get the money.

Bronx get the money. Bronx get the money, nigga. I ain't mad at that. But God damn, man. I'm looking. City girls up 200. Right? City girls up 200, man.

That's crazy, man. I didn't know that. He could have built a whole new projects in Milwaukee with that money. That's a fact. But do you know, did you hear the rumors of why he allegedly got snuffed by Draymond? What he said to Draymond leading up to that? No. What he said?

Excuse me. So it was a three-day process. The first day, he said some shit about, you know, Draymond went to Michigan State and he went to Michigan. And he said, I get more bitches than you in Michigan State and I'm a Michigan nigga. That was it. And then he said, Draymond was working out and he's like, I don't know why you working out so hard.

You going to be in Sacramento next year anyway. That's the setup. Then the third day, I can't, you know, I had this question. I can't remember what it was the third day, but it was something, it was three things that Draymond said, you playing with me, right? Yeah. And knocked the nigga out.

But also what I- He went out? I don't know. They cut the video short. I tell you this, his legs buckled. His legs definitely buckled. Them legs buckled. He needed a 10 second.

He needed a 10 second? He needed a 10 second? But what I was listening to, I was listening to Kevin Garnett talk one time. And he said, you know, that was training camp for the year after Golden State won the championship. Kevin Garnett was like, what happens is you win a championship, you come back to training camp, then you know niggas think they all that. And sometimes you got to put niggas in their place. Them niggas think they all that. And sometimes you gotta put niggas, you know how KG talk, and sometimes you gotta put niggas in they place. Them niggas come back thinking they helped you win the championship.

And sometimes they gotta get punched in they face. I was like, okay, cause when I watched that shit, when Draymond snuffed them, niggas stuffing clay said, I ain't seen nothing. I ain't seen a damn thing. I just hear niggas talking, then you get capped. That's sometimes they gotta get capped. That's the time they got you capped. He look like he want no action.

Watch that video again. Whenever you get a chance out there, watch that video again and watch Steph Curry reaction and Klay Thompson reaction. Them niggas, they ain't give a fuck. So that's what I... Okay, so also on the topic of NBA players, Dylan Brooks is at it again. After the Grizzlies beat the Lakers in game two,

Brooks was asked about LeBron. He stopped the LeBron talk and said, quote, I don't care he's old. He also said, I poke bears. I don't respect anyone until they come. He poked bears. He said he poked bears. That's crazy.

He said. That's bestiality. Hey, I don't know nothing about it. He got that. Animal activism. Hey, I don't know. He got that. He did show I poke bears. I don't know why that was the first thought that came to his mind, but he said it.

He said, I don't respect anyone until they come and give me 40. Brooks did score 12 points that game, and they beat the Lakers by 10 points. However, a tweet he made in 2012 resurfaced when he said, all mans, LeBron is the best player in the NBA. That's a lot of switching up. Yeah, well, I will say this. This is what I will say. I like his attitude, though. I can't get mad at what I will say.

In 2012, LeBron was the best player in the NBA. That was 11 years ago. So when he tweeted wasn't wrong, do you think LeBron's the best player in the NBA today? In 2012? Do you think he's the best player in 2012? No. Who's the best player in 2012?

Kobe. I'll go with that. I'm not mad at that answer. And I'm not arguing about it. Okay. Now, not arguing about it. Now, what's your next question? The next question I was going to ask you was, should you do me over? Is he the best player right now? Yes, that's right.

Absolutely not. Okay. Who's the best player right now? Healthy or unhealthy? All healthy. Everything healthy. All healthy. Giannis.

Okay. I'm going with Kevin Durant. Oh, Kevin Durant. Yeah. When Kevin Durant's healthy, I don't going with Kevin Durant. Oh, Kevin Durant. Yeah. When Kevin Durant's healthy, I don't go against Kevin Durant. But as far as back to Dylan Brooks. Yo, my nigga, you causing a scene. I see what you're doing.

You're trying to be Baby Draymond. Shout out to my man, Bomani Jones, too. I was on Bomani Jones' show, and we was talking about- You think he's Baby Draymond? I think he's a giant Pat Beverly. He's a giant... But see, the thing about it is this. No, the thing about it is this, right?

Pat Beverly, Draymond are known for defense, right? He's just known for... I don't know what he knows. That's why I said that. I don't got him getting points and getting crazy. But what I'm trying to say is like he's just annoying. I don't really think he's a defensive specialist. Yeah, I can't even give him Pat Beverly.

Yeah, like shout out to my man Shady McCoy. I was watching him earlier. He made a great point when I was looking at it. He's not all defensive on anything. He ain't made no defensive. He ain't defensive player. What is he known for? But an earthen people that may be a new title. Yeah, just the earth. He's giving me on what's the Matt Barnes. What Matt Barnes? I like Matt Barnes. I like Matt Barnes. He's not as good as Matt Barnes. I'm saying irritating people.

Irritating. Got you. No disrespect, Matt Barnes. We shout out to Matt. You know Matt driving the nigga house. Matt will come to the church. Matt coming up. Shout out to Derrick Fisher too, nigga. Nigga, Matt put his feet

on Derrick Fisher. My bad, Matt. We don't want no static, nigga. Matt will drive to the church. He got time from that. But I just think Dylan Brooks is annoying. I think he does this purposely. I think that he sees that he's annoying people. Because I don't give a fuck about the nigga, to be honest with you. But seriously, as far as Dylan Brooks is concerned, he's annoying.

I don't know, you know, exactly what his specialty is. But what I will say is that he's needed. Yeah. I'm trying to think of the player that comes to mind when I think of him. Was it Chris Leverstein on the Bulls that just fouled everybody and Bill Lambert? Bill Lambert definitely.

You know, just want to fight. I can't give him Bill Lambert. You know? You can't give him Bill Lambert. You. I can't give him Bill Lambin. You can't give him Bill Lambin. You ain't going to give him Bill Lambin. Come on, Bill Lambin. Bill Poise is that form. And Bill got them championships. My thing is with

Dylan Brooks, he got some time. I think he's been in the league for a little while. He got some time to prove himself, but you can't say LeBron is old. First of't say LeBron is old. First of all, LeBron is old, but he busts an ass. Right.

He just passed Lou Elson, aka Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, for most points ever in the NBA, and niggas say he ain't a killer. Yeah. Come on, LeBron is good, man.

You know what? What I will say is this. You better be careful because he might stick his son on you. In a couple careful because he might stick his son on you. In a couple years, he might put his son on your head top. Pause. I'm telling you right now, be careful, but you got no right to talk about LeBron.

Okay. So you guys think he's wrong for disrespecting LeBron James? I think he's doing that because it's the playoffs and that's what niggas do. He's wrong, but he's right. He's supposed to do it. It's supposed to be competition. It's for people like us to say, you out your fucking mind.

But he's supposed to do that. I'm not mad at him for doing that. Yeah, you can't be mad at him saying, prove it. Prove it to me. I can't go about what you did to somebody else. But what I will say is this, that they won that game without Ja Morant. They won that game. They looked actually better without Ja.

The ball was flowing. And I love Ja. Yeah, I love Ja. But you know what? They had a better record last year without Ja. Ja Morant missed a lot of games last year. They had a better record last year without Ja Morant with all the games he missed.

So that's something to think about. Do you think about, do you think niggas in the locker room are like, man, I need John. Then when John comes in, he's like, yo, John, what's up? What's up? I tell you this much. If John don't play the next game and they win, that's something to think about.

That's something to think about. And it goes with the whole imagery of how people create narratives around you. Once people think you're wow, then I remember he got the ball and he jumped up like he was about to dunk and he fell over and hit his hand. And I was thinking, once you think of a person like out of control, now it look like he's just wow.

And I was like, wow, that's how they're trying to paint it right now. So you're trying to say he's on the way to trying to be like Russell Westbrook type? I'm saying if he doesn't play well, it's a it's a it's a way that the league start working you into a bad spot. Do you think they did that to Russell Westbrook? Yes. So you're saying the league put Russell Westbrook in? Yeah, it's like they it's like the league works you out of the league. Like, everybody know Gilbert could have kept playing, but he was worked out of the league.

Everybody know, you know, our guest today could be still playing. But it's like they put you on this little two, three-year thing where they're walking you out. John Wall. John Wall. Right. And I think I agree with you 100% because it's a lot of players. You'd be like, yo, where he at?

He's better than him. He's better than him. Like Melo. It's like, oh, yeah, he's older, but Melo is better than him. Right, exactly. I agree. I think three people that you said that should be in the NBA, no matter because of their age or not,

I still see them killing Joe Johnson, Carmelo Anthony, and Jamal Crawford. It's still three people that can still play. I don't care if you say they 41, 42. You put Jamal Crawford in the night, somebody's legs is falling asleep. I saw the way they was passing the ball around. I'm like, they needed Nate. They needed Nate.

I mean, Isaiah Thomas right here at the top of that key. Right. And where's Isaiah Thomas at? Yeah, they did Isaiah Thomas at? They did Isaiah Thomas dirty, man. They did him fucked up. That kid came, Danny Ainge, you a foul nigga for that shit. Your man did that. Who did it?

No, no, no. First of all, Danny Ainge did that. Danny Ainge did that shit. Danny Ainge. Cleveland, Boston was in the playoffs. That man hit was fucked up. That nigga's sister died. He went home to his sister's funeral.

I don't know if it was the funeral. He went back to Seattle, checked on his sister, came back to play in the playoffs with a fucked up hit because he was the leading scorer for Boston at the time. And then after that, they traded him for Kyrie. That goes to show, don't put your faith in them organizations because when they're done with you, they done with you.

Ask Pat Riley and Dwyane Wade. Ask UD. UD is my man too. I think UD, even though it's up to UD, I don't know. That's my nigga. But they could have put him in the front office by now. You keep putting that man in the uniform even though he caught a dunk the other day and all that type of shit. Give that

man the fucking job. He been loyal to that franchise, man. Yeah, even though he caught a dunk the other day. Yeah, it's crazy. Give that man a fucking job. He's been loyal to that franchise, man. Yeah, they gave one to Juwan Howard. They definitely got to take care of him because he's hometown. Right. Well, both good points on that note. We'll be right back. She called us thinking about toxic Boy isn't counting

Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening, me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about She wanna be free Why am I in this woman way?

She wanna be free Hell, I don't wanna see her walk away Why am I in this one way free? Hell, I don't want to see her walk away. I wish somebody told me the rules. Disagreements let her win. Then it's cool when it's cool. Even when I'm right to say nothing about you. Welcome back.

Okay, so touching back on what we were talking about before, y'all said John Morant may not be needed, which is a bold statement. So for context, Memphis ruled out John Morant for game two due to a hand injury. In addition, the Bucs ruled out Giannis for game two due to a back injury. But the Bucs beat the Miami Heat by 16 points and Memphis beat the Lakers. How do you feel about the Bucucks and Memphis winning without John Morant and Giannis? And which team is most likely to win it all without those players?

Let me ask you this, Killa. If with the way they played, would you just put Jive back on the floor? As you were the coach, what would you do in that situation? As far as him coming back from an injury? As you were the coach, what would you do in that situation? As far as him coming back from an injury?

Yeah. Would you stick with what's working or you would just... I think as a coach, I wouldn't put him in. I would definitely play. First of all, I want him to get better. I would definitely play the next game and see how it goes. Well, are you starting him? Next game? Yes. I wouldn't play him next

game at all. I wouldn't play him next game at all. I wouldn't play him. I wouldn't let to see how the chemistry works without him because I think Jai's like that too. I think any player that says, this may not be my series, this may be the series y'all go without me, and I'm here for the next one. An unselfish player would say that.

Yeah. Do you think he would say that? Right now, he got to. He got to be an unselfish nigga right now. He got a lot looming over. But as a coach, to answer your question, I wouldn't play him. Yeah, if you go to L.A. and they start doing well the first quarter, would you dress him?

No, I wouldn't even have him until we down. Yeah. That's when I bring him back. Right now? Down eight, down seven. No, I wouldn't even have him until we down. Yeah. That's when I bring him back. Right now- Down eight, down seven, what? Down one. In the series. Okay.

What I'm saying, and not score wise, I'm saying is, you know, if I'm down three, three, one, and we about to get eliminated, bring him back. Right. But if not, no. Two, one, you bringing him back? They down 2-1? Yeah.

Is he all the way healed? If he's in LA, then it's party central. I'm talking about his wrist healed. His wrist should be healed in two games. All right. If he's down 2-1, no. 3-1, yeah. Because I just spent $200-something million

on the nigga. Yeah. I need the nigga one more time. Don't come back with that Zion shit next year. Talk about it.

Y'all just put me in there. We just talked about that with Isaiah Thomas. Like, you play with these injuries and then you don't perform well the next year and they don't need you.

Not saying John Morant, that's the case. But he got a fresh new contract starting next year for $200-something million. Now, I need you for the saying John Morant, that's the case, but he got a fresh new contract starting next year for $207 million. Now, I need you for the long run because what you got to realize is this, and as much as I hate to say it, as much

as I don't like it because I love niggas, you got LeBron 38, you got Kevin Durant 34, Steph Curry's 35, Kawhi Leonard's 32, Kyrie Irving's 31, 32. The generation that we are looking at now is on the way out.

Ja Morant's 23, 24 years old. Yeah, he's the face. He's the future. So no, I'm not playing him because everybody be loving now in the next six, seven years. As much as we hate to say unless LeBron pull off some miracle shit,

LeBron ain't gonna be here in four or five years, six years. I would love to see him stay, but just like we said- You don't think LeBron got four gonna be here in four or five years, six years. I would love to see him stay, but just like we said. You don't think LeBron got four more years? I think he could play four more years. I think he gonna do whatever he wanna do and as much as his body could let him play. You know what I'm saying?

I think same thing with Kobe. Kobe would've, Kobe, I seen that in him. Kobe said, look, I'm not gonna be averaging 16 and stay. If I don't average 27, I gotta to sit down. I think LeBron when he can't score 30 when he wants to and he's reduced to 11 points, 12 points, I think he leave. If he's scoring 25... You think he's going to

get down to 11? No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I would leave at 20. I think that LeBron after this year when he took the scoring title, I said to myself, that kid could get 30 when he won. He's just such a team player. The nigga, the nigga, the night he broke the scoring title,

everybody was in the house. He needed 35 points to do it. Jay-Z, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, whatever star you could think of was in the house. He said, all right, me put on my suit, put on the show, because every NBA player can't say, you know what, I'm going to go get 35 tonight, because he could have had 20 and said, damn,

I'll do it tomorrow. He knows what the stage is. Do you know that? He can't even dress for it. There you go, Superman put on his suit. So in my brain, I don't think he's nowhere near done if he says, all right, I'm going to go get 35 tonight. If anybody can say that's not easy. A lot of people have great NBA careers who've never scored 35 at all.

How many outstanding seasons do you think he got left? The thing about it is I think he would have a bunch of outstanding seasons. Like three, four? I was about to finish answering. I think he would have a bunch of outstanding seasons if Anthony Davis stopped getting smacked in the ass in the locker room with all that dumbass shit, playing these fucking games, LeBron picked you, Anthony Davis, to be the man.

Same way Dwayne Wade let LeBron be the man when he was in Miami. LeBron tried to give that to you, and you still got a man 38 years old out there losing half his hair killing niggas because every time your toenail hurt, you crying, your fingernail is fucked up, your eyebrows finally got a gap in between them, you got a

problem with it. He came and brought you there to be the fucking man. So to answer your question, I think LeBron will have a bunch of great seasons left. As being a main nigga, I don't know about that. If Anthony Davis, you know Anthony Davis, he sparks this season right here. Oh, shit, he went on a run after we talked to you about this shit.

He went crazy. He averaged about 35, 10 rebounds, et cetera. Then he disappeared again. Yeah, next game, disappeared. Yeah, so I think if LeBron has a good support, Cassie got a bunch of great seasons. Like, if you putting the onus on his shoulders, three or four, five. Yeah.

He'll have enough to make it to when his son get there. Yeah. And people listening, they say, you said he disappeared second game. No, we need him to take the assertive role to be the leader of the team. And he's not doing that. But back to you.

Okay, so you guys said Jaws the future, and he should sit out until his injuries get a little bit better. What about Giannis? Because, you know, the Bucks still won their game without him. That's different. That's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, man.

That's different. Look, the thing is's let's be clear not saying that that um the east is weak but the west is much more like memphis to go through the west without job yes it's crazy yeah now the greek same thing kind of with milwaukee on the east but y'all this is just y'all it's like if i if we have to do a comparison who would go further without their team? I'm going to say Memphis. Memphis is going to go further. You need to greet Freak, man. Yeah, they would not get past

Boston or Philly. Yeah, they might not get past the Knicks. Yeah. Seriously. Seriously. So I would go with definitely Giannis is more needed to come back than John Morant. Okay. And you agree? I agree. Okay.

So also on the topic of NBA players, an anonymous player commented on Tristan Thompson saying, someone like him has made a whole career out of playing next to LeBron. But I'm not going to lie. Did he make a career out of playing next to LeBron or playing other woman? His 2021 to 2022 stats are six points, 5 rebounds, and.6 assists. Is Tristan the most overrated player in the league? And if not,

who is? Say that with the stats. 6 points, 5 rebounds, and .6 assists. Triple single. Triple single again. Triple single, baby. Give me the triple. Who's the best triple single? That's a good triple. Who's the best triple single?

That's a good one. Who's the best triple single? Before we go into that, who do you think is the best triple single? To be honest? Yeah. I don't know their stats, but I know. Who give you best triple single vibes? Draymond Green sometimes.

Draymond? Because Draymond will get 999. Nah, you can't put Draymond. No, I'm not dissing you. I'm just saying you got the most triple doubles. But I'm saying some nights. I mean the triples, low singles. No, I'm just saying because Draymond, some shit Draymond do is stats. Don't come on the board.

You don't get stats for boom. You don't get stats for stomping on the nigga chest. A lot of shit Draymond do don't show up on the stats, but Tristan Thompson, he just got back with the Lakers. I think a lot of people, look, I ain't gonna sing with Tristan Thompson, but I think

a lot of people get famous playing next to LeBron. Yeah, everybody did. Boobie over there. Boobie. Boobie over there. Boobie. Boobie somebody over in Cleveland. Flat top nigga from Connecticut, you know. Norris.

Norris. You know, a lot of people are going to get famous for playing with LeBron. Should we single Tristan Thompson out? You know, the thing about it with Tristan Thompson. He's the most famous one. You said something in the shit about the bitches. I definitely put that in there. I don't like what you said.

He play around with them bitches, Kardashians, other people. So he going to get a bad rap about that. Everybody who go in that reality show turns out a little different. Shout out to my bro, my nigga Lamar Odom. That's my nigga. You know what I'm saying? You go in that show, shit don't turn out right. Where the fuck is Reggie Bush?

You see him on one of these commercials. Reggie Bush the fucking UFC. He won the two-stack. Yeah, he played two seasons fucking with them bitches. And Reggie Bush was that nigga. Reggie Bush, you disappeared. Where's Humphreys?

Nigga, I ain't seen Humphreys. I ain't seen Humphreys. I think I haven't seen him since the internet came out. He might have been missing since. They just packed him up. Yeah, and I ain't being funny or nothing. And I swear to God, I'm not. What do you think is in it?

Well, I'm going to talk to America real quick. And I'm not trying to be funny. And I'm talking to our black athletes out there. And I'm being in to be funny. And I'm talking to our black athletes out there. And I'm being in all seriousness. Pay attention. This is the real get out. Be careful going over there, yo. Be careful, yo.

Because we just said Reggie Bush. We said Humphries. We said Tristan Thompson. And Tristan Thompson, no disrespect, because I fuck with you. But it's just on the list but this person Kanye's not even an athlete man you know what I'm saying

it's get out man and I'm not saying that they're trying to take they're not trying to take out our genetics so on and so forth you go over there you get mind fucked be careful most overrated player Murda most overrated player, Murda. Most overrated player ever. Of all

time. It gotta be somebody from the Knicks. I'm gonna go with Greg Oden. Greg Oden. Greg Oden, Sam Bowie, uh, Kwame Brown, all the niggas who got picked.

Greg Anthony Greg Anthony was I he was I don't do that to Greg Greg was I W and L me my niggas over there what about Stacey Augman Kenny Skywalker I hate Kenny Skywalker I hate Kenny Skywalker

I hate that nigga we going there I hate fucking General. I hate Kenny Skywalker. I hate that nigga. I hate that nigga. Are we going there? I hate fucking Gerald Wilkins, Dominique, brother. I hate Gerald fucking Wilkins, man. Let me do the bum ass dunks for the Knicks. I hate that nigga, Gerald. It might be Gerald fucking Wilkins. I hate that nigga with a passion, man.

We might be riding with somebody from the Knicks. I'm going to go with Gerald Wilkins. For those that don't know, and y'all may not know Dominique Wilkins, Dominique Wilkins' little brother name is Gerald, and he was just exactly what he was, his little brother. I'm going to go with Gerald Wilkins, the most overrated player ever. You got Gerald Wilkins. Kenny Skywalker.

Kenny Skywalker got to be up there. Yeah, that's a fact, man. That's a great question, man. I might want to come back and revisit this at another time because I have to think about it. Okay. And then just to add to that real quick, there was an anonymous player poll where players voted

who was the most overrated player. Top picks were Trae Young, Julius Randall, Jimmy Butler, Rudy Gobert. Oh, we're talking about right now. I thought you meant – Trae Young? They put Trae Young in there? So, time out. The question is for about right now. I thought you meant. Trae Young? They put Trae Young in there? So time out. The question is for this right now.

The overrated player right now. No, you can't put Trae Young in there. He's number one, actually. 15% Trae Young. Oh, I get it now. I get it. I just had an epiphany. The reason why Trae Young is there is because when you think about players,

most players wouldn't be that same player on eight other teams. So when you think about Trey Young and what he's doing, he couldn't do that on eight other teams. He wouldn't even be the same player on eight other teams. What is he doing? Shooting a lot. Is he winning? No, that's what I'm saying.

But he wouldn't have the leverage to just come down jacking up shot when wiring chains and marty sweaters well we were talking about this talk about this off camera and you was and we was referring like he done got two coaches fired yeah or is this the first coach and they on the second coach no he didn't go he's on his third coach right now he didn't got a lot of people fired. And now they got Snyder and Snyder is not going. Right. So is this going to be a problem in the future? Is Trey going to stay?

Or is Snyder going to stay? Because in the long run they're going to be like, and they can't be the coach. They got to move Trey Young because they got Murray. We'll see. I never thought that Trey would be at the top of the list. I wouldn't have put Trey at the top.

I like Trey a lot. If we gonna go with an overrated player right this very second, it's Dylan Brooks. Ain't even no fucking... Ain't even no kind of shit. That's easy. I thought we met ever. Most overrated player right this very second is Dylan Brooks.

We talking about all this shit he doing outside of basketball. Yeah. Hey, good point. That was a good one. Well, let us know who you think is the most overrated player. We'll be right back. Pink Horse Power. She call this thing about toxic.

What's happening, baby? Baby, what's happening baby? Baby, what's happening? Why you walking like that? That's how I walk And then like you come on breathing on me like that I fucking breathe to live And like you used to be dark skin And now you act like hella light skin

You fucking blind? I'm dark skin What the fuck? And then like look at your beard What the fuck is wrong with my beard? Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are you talking about? No, I don't even like it. The way you breathe in, all of that. Has this ever happened to you?

Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset. She's frustrated. There's only one way to handle that. Pink Horse Power. But your breath! But your breath is really refreshing! No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately. It looks so good.

No. PHP. It works every time. Wait, where are you going? Welcome back. Okay, so ahead of the Tank versus Ryanyan garcia fight on saturday april 2nd april 22nd excuse me in las vegas they are going back and forth about rehydration restrictions tank wants to implement a rehydration clause how do you guys feel about this

i think it's smart if you get away with it to To be honest with you, I've never seen nothing like this. So all our fans that's not familiar with boxing, just so you understand the concept of what's going on, a lot of fighters weigh more than their actual weight when they fight. So let's say the fight is at 147 pounds. The average person outside of Floyd Mayweather, who's really his natural weight, walks around 30, 40 pounds

more than they really are. What Tank is trying to say is, Ryan, after the fight, after they do a weigh-in, so the day before the fight, they do a weigh-in, then the next day, they may weigh 30 pounds more. Tank is trying to restrict Ryan from weighing a lot of

basically being way heavier. Even 10 pounds heavier. Even 10 pounds more than he was in the weighing. So how do me and Murda feel about it? I just wanted to explain that for people who don't understand boxing. Basically, Tank is saying, if you weigh 150 tomorrow, you can't weigh 160. You have to be under 160. I don't know the exact weight, but that's the idea.

How do I feel about it? I'm smart if you can get away with it. Yeah, I feel he's definitely scared by doing that. You saying Tank is scared of Ryan by doing that? I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know if he's scared. Because if you don't care, like, if you're a champion's champion,

we're going to fight. Especially when it's been smoked there the whole time. Right. You just want to fight. Right. It's not all these clauses. Right. And I think Tank is phenomenal.

I think Tank should win the fight. But for you to put that out there says there is a concern. That's all I'm saying. That's a great way to put it. There's a concern. Because put it like this. If I'm fighting against Tank and you're like, you scared, nigga. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like. You's all I'm saying. That's a great way to put it. Put it like this. If I'm fighting against taking you down, I'm like, you scared, nigga.

Yeah, yeah. I'm like... You know what I'm 162. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's a great point because I didn't look at it like that. I'm just thinking, you know me, I'm on business side, but from fighter to fighter... Yeah, fighter to fighter you're thinking, why don't you want me

at my full self and you at your full self? I agree, man. And whatever you came in, that's what we're doing. That's a fucking good-ass point. I didn't think about that. That's a fucking good point. But it's still smart if you can get away with the shit. If you can get away with the shit.

And then they said he's going to bet the whole purse. You heard about that? Yeah, I heard about that shit. I heard. That's cap. That's definitely cap record. That's definitely cap. That's cap record.

I know Coach Calvin is not letting you bet his proceeds. Yeah, first of all, it's too many other niggas. Jesus said that earlier. Jesus said too many other niggas got to get paid. So you betting the trainer, the manager? Yo, put mine to the side play, boy. Secondly, I just don't see... I don't know Ryan that well, but I don't see Tank

if, God forbid, if he loses. I don't wish for Tank to lose, but if he do lose, I don't see Tank telling him. I see Tank saying, come get it. Because Tank playing with pistols and all that. Listen, I'm going to tell you a story real quick, man. I'm going to tell you a story real quick, man. I'm going to tell you a story real quick, man.

He ain't taking no money from nobody from Baltimore. Yeah, and I'm going to tell the story, man. Tell the story. This is a complication. I won't implicate anybody. But when Tate wasn't Tank, and when he was on the way to being Tank, and he was feeling like he was getting slighted by people from the money team.

He from Baltimore. Tank was mad at Floyd, and this is before he was a superstar. He's in the process of being a superstar. He ran down on somebody with the pistol in the restaurant, so Floyd stopped playing with niggas. You know what I'm saying?

I'm cool with some people over there, so I'm not going to implicate anybody, but I'm just trying to say I can't see a nigga with that mentality giving up his purse to Ryan. You're going to have to come take that, and I don't think that's going to happen either. And Ryan's family is definitely not, they're Mexican, they're definitely not letting you

bet that whole money. Yeah, I mean, the cartel needs to take that. Yeah, the cartel got to eat too. After that, go to the cartel if you're a real Mexico nigga. Yeah. You know what I mean? So, I think it's smart. Murder made a great point. If you're a real boxers boxer, then you ain't ought to do that, but

Floyd did it, but he never said how much you could replenish the next day. I think it's smart, but I like what Murder said as well. Good points. Well, that's all we have for today's episode. Make sure to hashtag it is what it is and let us know y'all's thoughts. And stay tuned for the next episode. Outro Music