IT IS WHAT IT IS - IT IS WHAT IT IS TALK EPISODE 5
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Still moving reckless, I snatch you right out your Lexus.
I'm moving black like it's Tetris, 100,000 by practice.
Welcome back to It Is What It Is.
I'm Treasure Wilson, a.k.a. Stat Baby, along with your hosts Cam and Mace.
So we have a lot to cover today. Are y'all ready?
I'm ready.
Are you ready?
Are you ready?
Do I look like I'm dressed for a funeral, right?
Oh, yeah.
Right, Stat Baby?
Right.
He coming for the kill.
He coming.
I came to kill him.
Right?
You're here with Lazarus.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's get into it.
So, as we know, John Morant has been a hot topic in the media for a lot of things that have happened off the court.
Incidents involving the strip club, social media scandals, and the list goes on.
He got the chance to sit down with Jalen Rose. He asked him questions like,
how stressful is it being Ja Morant? Whose gun was he holding? But did Jalen Rose really ask Ja
the right questions? Did he ask him whose gun he was holding? Yeah. I think that was the number one
question, but he didn't answer it.
So Jive, you listening to us, that's the question they still want to know.
You can dance around the whole thing, but we need to know whose gun was it.
What the fuck is you talking about, man?
What the fuck are you talking about, my nigga?
I'm not the only one today.
You asking the nigga, yo, so off top, you're asking John Morant to tell niggas...
Who's gun was it?
If he changed,
the way we know he changed,
is he give up the corporate, you know?
If he changed...
If he changed.
Yeah, all right, man, listen.
They didn't ask him to cut his hair.
Yeah, this is true, but...
We need to see something to know he changed.
You out-of-pocket asking that nigga to get on the television
and say whose gun it is.
If he's not gang, then we need to know who gun it is.
But if he's following gang culture,
then he's not supposed to say who gun it is.
He's still gang. I don't know.
I don't think it's about gang and not gang.
You can't get up in there,
Jai, you asked to hold my pistol for the video.
You go viral. No,'t get up in there, Jai, you asked to hold my pistol for the video. You go viral.
No, I get what you're saying.
Now you go viral,
so now you got to throw me under the bus?
That's crazy.
Come on now.
That's wild, my nigga.
I wouldn't have gave it to you to tell on me, my nigga.
That's crazy.
I get that, I get that.
But if it's his, I think he should own up to it.
It was his gun.
I don't know who gun it was
because at the end of the day,
there was a lot of shit going on with Jai and Memphis on the road.
Yeah.
I don't know how all these guns and paraphernalia are going on the road.
I can see if they're home and they're around that shit,
especially in Memphis.
You got to keep a pistol nearby in Memphis.
But how is all this going on the road?
Who is taking this on the road?
I think John Moran and himself just need to acknowledge that he's trying to be something
he shouldn't be being at this point.
And if he got the gun, realistically, if you're stressed out and you're carrying a gun on
the road, I don't want to be on the bus with somebody stressed out and they got a gun.
I'm a.
Yeah.
Listen, what I will say is this, man.
We're laughing, but it's not laughable, you know?
No, you're right. You're right.
It's not.
You keep laughing.
If somebody's stressed out and they're out of control
and they're taking a gun on the road, I can't sleep.
Now I'm stressed out.
John, you're looking at this.
We don't mean to really laugh at your pain.
We want to help, but you got to cut it out, man.
You got to cut it out.
Talk with me.
I can help you.
I'm a trusted voice. Hey, listen, that's a great point.
You don't want to be around anybody with a gun who's stressed out,
which is a great point.
But what I will say is this.
Since John Morant has been back publicly after the interview with Jalen Rose,
he's been amazing, saying all the right things,
what he should be saying.
Now is he going to live up to everything that he's saying he's going to do?
That's the question.
But he has been saying all the right things of what a person should say.
He's staying in a safe place.
But who gun is it?
That's another story for another day.
I hope you don't tell who's gun is it
because that would really be some sucker shit.
It would.
They gave you the pistol so you could show off on the gram
and do all the pistol shit.
No, I'm saying if it's his gun,
not blame somebody or snitch on somebody, but if it's his gun, if it's his gun, not blame somebody
or snitch on somebody, but if it's his gun,
you should say it's my gun.
The shit over with. Murder?
Ain't like nobody getting charged with the gun.
It's not over because I can't sleep.
Now I can't sleep. I'm just saying, no, you can't sleep
but as far as, why bring up a whole
another case or another situation
when it's buried? Nobody's caring.
It's not like Denver police, Colorado
police dropped the case.
They know they're not bringing up in Memphis.
Sweep the gun under the rug. We don't
need to know who gun it is. Let's move on
if I'm John Morant. All right, you're right.
Let's go on. So, well,
piggybacking off of that a little bit, okay,
so he did talk about what happened, but do you
think that him even taking the interview
was a good idea, or do you think he should have just left it alone and just went back to play like why do you feel like
he should even have to answer himself to the public and prove himself because that's the
generation we in that you feel like and not just generation that's sports in general everybody has
one of those interviews after some quote-unquote scandal yeah and uh and sports. Whether it's
the Flakegate with Tom Brady
or you know
I don't want to bring up personal shit
but yeah.
I was going to bring up my man joint.
I thought about that.
I was like I ain't want to do that.
You know what I'm saying?
But you got to do them interviews after the scandal.
Because people want to know where was your brain.
Where was your brain when you was doing that?
I know you was doing that, but what was you thinking?
Yeah.
So I think doing those interviews are important.
Do you have to do them?
No.
But then if you don't do them, you're going to seem like you're insensitive.
You know what I'm saying?
It's going to seem like you really don't give a fuck.
And he's going to be like, oh, he can't even do the fucking interview.
And tell us what the fuck is going on.
I have a real problem with certain things when it comes to athletes
dealing with media because some people may be the best player in the world.
Who said I'm good at talking to people?
Or as a person.
Right.
I'm just good at putting the ball in the basket.
Pause.
But at the end of the day, swear I'm good I'll be serious today but I tried to try to die tried to be professional. Bat. Bat.
Bat.
Bat.
Good, good.
That's fine. Good, good.
You were just sipping.
That was crazy.
That was wild.
That was crazy.
Come on, Steph, baby.
That was crazy.
More stories, you got to do them interviews.
You got to do them interviews. You got to do them interviews.
You got to do them interviews.
And you got to pick the right person.
Next time, pick us.
Yeah, that's important, too, because you want to pick somebody.
That's why I think he went with Jalen Rose.
He went with somebody.
They're not saying Jalen, but it's going to be soft pause.
They're not saying that.
But I'm just saying, like, you want to stay safe.
Like, Muhammad Ali at Howard Cosell.
A lot of people don't talk about this.
I just talked about it on, like, one of our first episodes.
Brian Winhurst, Winhurst or Winhorst, whoever he is for ESPN,
he came in piggybacking off LeBron.
He's one of LeBron's employees.
He worked for ESPN, but you got here because of LeBron.
You know what I'm saying?
So can you trust that though?
If they do the interview through a person that you know is favorite, that's favorite
him and controlling the narrative where it's safe for you.
Exactly.
Brian Winhurst, when it comes to LeBron James, I don't believe nothing he says.
He's not a trusted voice.
I'm a trusted voice.
I don't believe nothing he says because I believe all the good shit he says.
If there's anything bad about LeBron, you will not hear from Brian Winhurst.
Winhurst, Wynn, whatever.
Winhurst, yeah.
Yep, got it.
You won't hear from him because he came in off LeBron.
The reason he got the job is because he followed LeBron all through high school.
When LeBron went to the NBA, ESPN hired him to follow LeBron.
That's how hot LeBron was, and he says nothing bad about LeBron, and you shouldn't say nothing bad follow LeBron. That's how hot LeBron was. And he says nothing bad about LeBron.
And you shouldn't say nothing bad about LeBron.
You have a 20-year career at ESPN because of LeBron.
And I don't blame you for not saying anything bad.
You're smart.
Yeah.
There you have it.
So then you can't trust it.
But go ahead.
The more the story is, you can't trust it.
You can't trust it.
There you go.
There you have it.
We'll be right back. She called this thing about toxic Four years and counting
Got you feeling like an option
Maybe I'm my own problem, babe
She tired of hearing I don't know
What's happening to me won't fall
Dealing with this thing called trust
But she really thinking about it. She
want to be free. Why am I in this? She want to be free.
Welcome back. So switching to football, as we know, the Baltimore Ravens have placed the
non-exclusive franchise tag on quarterback Lamar Jackson.
That means any team will have the chance to offer the former league MVP a new contract.
But he is still on the hunt.
Is it time for Lamar Jackson to get an agent?
I think he should get an agent.
I mean, thinking about it, because it turned into a thing where if he doesn't show up with the right people, he's not getting a deal.
What do you think?
And who are those right people?
You know, I like to ask the right questions.
I think you want some Uncle Tom shit, nigga.
Fuck if you talking about nigga, I get an agent.
You know what the fucking problem is?
This nigga here all he want, bringing somebody else.
All they doing is talking the problem is is gonna open up a can of worms for anybody who nice cuz if he figure it out they
don't like what the fuck we need an agent for oh no I'm on your side they
saying it's not no longer the Redskins it's the commanders or whatever they
call but seem like he still got red skin.
I ain't got nothing.
I don't know where that comment went.
I ain't got nothing to do with that.
But what I was saying is this.
You're saying he should get an agent.
And what I'm saying is this.
If he ends up getting an agent, if he doesn't get an agent, this goes right.
He gets the $250 million, $230 million he wants guaranteed.
Other football players are going to be like, well, fuck, I need an agent for it. Yeah, that's why they're not giving him the deal, though.
I understand that.
But what I'm saying is, I'm not disagreeing with you on why he should get an agent.
But I'm saying, don't fold now, nigga.
Stay strong.
Yeah, if you've been standing this long.
Yeah, you got to pave the now, nigga. Stay strong. Yeah, if you've been standing this long. Yeah, you got to pave the way, nigga.
You got to be motherfucking Martin Luther King for this situation.
You got to be Malcolm X.
You got to be one of the leaders to get this done,
because what's going on in now,
if you prove your point and get this deal done,
all the other football players are going to be like,
word, Lamar Jackson did it.
I don't need an agent.
So right now they blackballing him.
You want him to pull a Kaepernick
and then everybody just...
Kaepernick never was a league
MVP. Kaepernick never
had the most rushing yards for a quarterback
and holds the record for that.
Kaepernick was never
a two-time Pro Bowl
player. Maybe he was, but Lamar
Jackson's stats are way better than Colin Kaepernick's
stats ever was.
And he's super good.
Lamar Jackson is as Michael Vick on steroids.
I agree with that.
I'm just saying I don't want him to pump
himself up to where people
do what they did to Kaepernick.
They pumped him up to go do it,
and then when it went bad,
everybody just backed him off.
My problem with this is this, is that he didn't do nothing
bad. All that man is doing is trying to negotiate
a contract for his future.
He ain't got no off-the-field scandal.
He ain't nailed on one knee. He's not
disrespecting the flag. All
I'm trying to do is negotiate
to get my contract done.
Nah, man, go play football.
Go play.
We don't need you in here negotiating.
Why you not training?
Fuck is wrong with you, nigga?
Go train and all that.
Hire an agent to get this done.
Same thing they tried to do to Rich Paul.
Rich Paul, they didn't want him to be an agent
talking about he don't have a college degree,
and to be an agent, you have to have a college degree,
so they tried to call it the Rich Paul rule,
and he couldn't be an agent.
Niggas was like, oh, get the fuck out of here.
If a nigga know how to politic deals and do deals,
then they good.
Everybody don't have to go to college
to be good at what they do.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's how I feel about it.
I think that that man will open up a can of worms
if they get this deal done,
and I think that the NFL and other agents
don't want that happening happening but I don't see
why he can't get a guaranteed contract
when Deshaun Watson
is a hand job. He can get
a great contract but it just seems like
if you're showing with the right
skin complexion
for the protection
you're going to get the right deal.
You have the right complexion for the connections
but what happened is also is that Cleveland set a standard
that other teams are probably pissed about.
They're like, yo, why would you give this nigga 250 fully guaranteed?
Now we got niggas like Lamar coming up with their contract.
They did it for Tony Romo.
Nobody ever got 250 guaranteed or 230.
I mean, Tony Romo been playing and
he never put up the numbers. You could call Tony
Romo, whoever. Nobody got the contract
ever that Deshaun
Jackson got.
Watson, pardon me, Deshaun Watson got for
a fully guaranteed. All his
money. You know football players' money don't be guaranteed.
This shit is fully guaranteed. They offered
After the scandal? Yes.
That nigga finished handjob heaven and went and got 230.
It's like, so what they did was, Lamar Jackson, they offered him 230,
but only like 130 was guaranteed.
And he's like, yo, I'm out.
Just keep playing me, man.
I ain't do nothing wrong.
All I did was bust a nigga's ass.
Secondly, only thing I would say is that he hasn't been durable. I think he could have played
at the end of this season, but he didn't want to play because he knew he had a contract coming up.
Just my opinion. I wouldn't mess my bread up either. Yeah, me neither. So let me ask you both
this, and I like that you put respect on his name because I feel like people start trying to
disrespect Lamar Jackson, but so as we know some of the trades that have happened, the Carolina
Panthers traded up to the number one overall pick to draft a quarterback.
The Miami Dolphins gave Tua his fifth-year option,
and the Raiders signed Jimmy Garoppolo to a three-year $67.5 million deal.
All these deals are being worked around.
Meanwhile, you know, Lamar still doesn't have an agent.
Is he hurting himself?
Like, okay, I understand stand your ground and, you know, say what you said,
but is it hurting him?
Is he not going to get enough money because he's negotiating?
That's what I'm saying.
That's what he's saying.
Exactly.
So are you asking me?
Mesa could be 100% right.
I could be 100% wrong.
I'm just telling you how I feel.
Now, has niggas been blackballed before?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But I think.
And it's sad that that happens, though,
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But I think... And it's sad that that happens, though,
that people can't even stand for themselves
without losing their future.
What I'm saying is, though...
That's crazy.
Like I said, he could be 100% right,
I could be 100% wrong,
but what I'm saying is this.
I think this is a great time for Lamar Jackson to do it
because he's not old.
He's in his prime.
He won an MVP before he got even
25, 26. He's in a
great space to do this because it's like
he's over the hill.
It happened to a guy who played a couple years
or somebody maybe older. He's
in the right space to try and do
this, but he could be fucking himself
up too. Yeah, he could be blowing the biggest
bag of his life. Right.
Wow!
Wow! Wow! Wow.
Wow.
Oh goodness.
You take that sentence back?
You stay on what you said.
No, I'm going to stay over here for a minute.
I'm going to just, I'm going to just lie.
Wow.
Oh wow.
Come on, Statt baby.
Let's go.
Well, well, just how did you get here?
I'm going to just, I'm going to just lie.
I'm going to just lie.
I'm going to just lie.
I'm going to just lie.
I'm going to just lie.
I'm going to just lie.
I'm going to just lie.
I'm going to just lie. I'm going to just lie. I'm going to just lie. I'm going to just lie. I'm going to just lie. Wow.
Oh, wow.
Come on, baby.
Well, just have to, you know, have to let that have its moment.
But I will say, look, if he can pull it through, that's great for him.
That would be amazing.
I can say I'm rooting for you.
We'll see what happens.
Let us know what you guys think Lamar Jackson should do, and we'll be right back. Maybe I'm my own problem, babe. She's tired of hearing, I don't know.
What's happening to me won't fall.
Dealing with this thing called trust.
But she ain't really thinking about it.
She wanna be free.
Why am I?
Welcome back.
Okay, so we're gonna go into what I think
is the hottest take of the week.
Mario Chalmers said nobody fears Braun.
He said, and I quote,
Nobody's like, damn, I got to go play against Braun tonight.
Nobody said that.
I don't know why, because I've seen people be scared when they actually line up to him,
but they're not scared thinking about that matchup.
What do you have to
say about that? It sounds like he's kind of being passive aggressive about what he really want to
say. And then it's also sound like he might be hating. As much as I want to go against, you know,
they go to today. I can't go with this one. I only stay on the true side. What'd you think, Killer?
I can't go with this one.
I only stay on the true side.
What'd you think, Killer?
Well, this could be very true.
This could be... This could be true what you're saying.
I've seen years ago...
Sorry, I was reading some stuff about Mario.
I was seeing years ago...
LeBron doing an interview,
not really an interview,
he's talking to Steph Curry about
how
he hesitated on
hit him with a move or Mario
Chalmers. He said, why'd you do that to my point guard
when Golden State
was playing the Miami Heat
when Steph was early in his career
and LeBron was giving a lot of props to
Steph Curry about busting Mario Chalmers' Thomas ass and people don't forget that shit.
Yeah, I can see him saying, you know what, you was going crazy over there.
Right, so to answer the question, I've seen that.
I mean, I can't say that he has a better understanding.
From the outside looking at him like niggas like us, I think niggas would be
like, fuck Bron, man.
And I don't know why they would say that.
They tried Braun way more than they tried Mike.
I wouldn't say that.
I'll tell you this much.
The Michael Jordan stories compared to the Michael LeBron James stories,
the Michael Jordan stories are plain frightening.
I get scared listening to them. Vernon Maxwell.
I get scared of them shits listening to them shits in. Miles in 2023, you be up under the covers like,
Mike is a Freddy Cooper.
Mike coming.
Mike, yeah.
Pause.
That was crazy.
Ken, we trying to be serious.
I'm just, I try last episode to.
Yeah, I'm trying to be serious today.
I can't even, I can't even do.
You know?
Because I'm thinking about all the stuff you're going to say pause to,
but listen to this.
Mike was a terror, you know?
When it comes to LeBron, I think people are like,
we're playing against Bron, and Bron is cool,
but the story is not the same.
See, I can't even... I can't even elaborate the way I want to talk.
Go ahead, Kim.
Yo, if we going to chill, we going to chill.
I tried to last week.
Never mind.
But he's right. He's absolutely right.
The stories you hear is definitely like,
we play Mike DeMars, Freddy Cougar, it's Nightmare on Elm Street shit. But he's right. He's absolutely right. The stories you hear is definitely like,
we play Mike DeMar's Freddy Cougar.
It's Nightmare on Elm Street shit.
It's Jason.
It's Sharks.
Yeah, it's all the Nightmare shit that you could get.
And every player got them.
You got Dominique Wilkins talking about Mike Wilkins in their locker room in Atlanta.
It says, tonight gonna be a long night.
Yeah, tonight y'all gonna have a long night. Yeah, tonight y'all going to have a long night.
And then goes, you know,
to the story Byron Scott is talking about,
talking about how Anthony Peel had to guard him
because LeBron was hurt.
I mean, pardon me, because Byron Scott was hurt.
Yeah.
So he said, Mike comes in the locker room,
said, you hurt?
Who guard me?
He said, Anthony Peel, he said, 60 he said 60 he said Mike gave him Mike got 62 yeah
like these Michael Jordan stories these stories are frightening he said he couldn't sleep yeah
he said it was sleepless nights he said it was sleepless night like what kind of shit you can't
go to sleep tonight he said thinking about getting embarrassed all type of shit. What I will say is
players that played with Michael Jordan
seemed like they were way more
scared of Michael Jordan than
players that played with LeBron.
If we're comparing goat shit.
And Chalmers said,
look at me, Chalmers said
nobody is scared of LeBron.
Well, listen, man.
He didn't say two people.
He didn't say one, 13.
This is what I was looking at.
Out of the 19 seasons?
See, this is what I was looking at before we even going any further.
I was like, okay.
That's personal.
You know what I'm saying?
So, Chalmers, we know Chalmers solely because he played with LeBron James.
He's probably upset he didn't take him to Cleveland when he left.
Well, we know Chalmers really if he wasn't playing with LeBron James.
Let's look where he left when he left the Heat.
He played in Memphis.
Played for Memphis two and a half years.
Then he played for Virtus.Burglona.
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Etcetera. Succes, falls, sky falls. Did he play for the Globetrotters? And now he plays for Zamboga Valentines in 2023.
Mario, look, if you got something to say about people in the NBA, be nice.
Be nice.
I don't know where the fuck this is at.
Zamboga Valentines.
I'm telling you, it's personal.
You know when it's personal.
You can feel when it's underlying and hate.
In 2006, this was Navarro means the platform basketball players.
Oh, he playing La Filipanas.
Take us out of this, baby.
He playing Filipanas.
Yo, Mario, write us, tell us where you play.
Where you playing so we can tune in, man?
Mario's in the hit right now. Where you playing right now?
Yo, alright, where's this save?
Zamboanga.
You think I'm making it up?
What's it say?
What's it say? Bold.
Zamboanga.
You think I'm making these names up?
Yeah, I'm not making these names up.
Y'all can look it up.
That's an even better question, man.
So I tell you one thing.
I tell you.
What are they, the dragons?
Yeah, I'll tell you one thing, Mario.
Ain't nobody scared to play against your ass.
We even play you tonight, nigga.
Shoot up, nigga.
I'll play you tonight, nigga.
How much you bet you would beat Chalmers?
Chalmers? Yeah.
Ten-day workout, whatever you want to bet.
We put the house on. I need ten days, though.
For Chalmers? Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. Chalmers.
I'm not going to Zambagola.
I'm pretty sure there's some nice people out there.
No disrespect, because now they're going to say I'm hating on whatever country that is.
Shout out to everybody in that country.
You could beat Chalmers.
I could beat Chalmers. Shout out to everybody in that country. You could be Chalmers. I could be Chalmers. Shout out to everybody
in that country. Now back to you.
Yo!
Yo, let me ask you something.
It ain't like this. No, this is
for TV. It ain't like this.
I'm just trying to say
who's Chalmers though?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's a few
niggas in the NBA we could be.
You could be Chalmers. I could beat Chris Paul 30 days out.
He's my height.
Chris Paul, I mean, my thing about Chris Paul, he's a habitual pause.
He's dirty pause, man.
I want to be careful playing one-on-one.
That kid is dirty, man.
Be careful, man.
Chalmers, Chris Paul, I will give Chris Paul way better than Charmers, though.
I'll tell you that much.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
That's why I said 30 days.
Yeah, I mean.
It's a mindset step, baby.
You ain't got to look at me crazy.
It's a mindset.
I'm just taking it in.
That's why he said he could beat Charmers.
I didn't doubt it.
No, that's not a mindset.
If I work out for 10 days, I could beat Mario.
Yeah, but Charmers is out.
He plays for Zazamba.
And he was playing for Sussex Falls last year.
Does he start, though?
So last year he played for the Miami Heat G League,
which is in South Dakota.
How does the Miami Heat G League?
Why they put them in South Dakota?
They come from Palm Springs?
American Pressure Basketball G League team based
in Sussex Falls, South Dakota that's affiliated
with the Miami Heat.
So this nigga played for the
Heat.
South Dakota Heat.
That's crazy.
Yeah, I could be charming.
Why the fuck you play for the South Dakota Heat.
Tell me your niggas ain't scared of the brawn.
Always out there.
It is cold.
That's some cold shit.
I don't know about y'all but I'd love to see a 1v1 cam versus Mario Chalmers.
Let me know what y'all think and And also, is he tripping with what he said?
First of all, he ain't worth my time.
Let him know now.
No, first of all, look.
First of all, look.
My thing is because I stay high school.
It's all black.
Yeah.
My thing is this.
You got to build your credibility up because let's say we play pay-per-view.
What do you bring to the table?
He's the B-side.
Yeah, he's definitely the B-side.
I'll play niggas. I'll play niggas one on one, but it's like you gotta get your priorities straight, because
I'm hotter than you right now.
So you gotta be hotter, that's almost not worth it.
Now it's like when I wanted to fight Bernard Hopkins.
You wanted to fight Bernard?
Yeah, I was trying to fight Bernard.
We almost had shit going and then he backed out.
You could Google that shit.
Hell yeah. I did a song dissing Bernard Hopkins and all that. But what happened was, this
is what happened. I went to Bernard Hopkins' fight and it was empty. And I'm like, Bernard
Hopkins too good to go out like this. Fight me and we going to sell out. I just wanted
to make him some money and I jabbed his face off and run around the ring. I wasn't trying
to get no phone booth with Bernard Hopkins. I was steady jab his face off and run around the ring. I wasn't trying to get no phone booth with Bernard Hopkins.
I was steady jabbing and going to run around the ring, but I went to one of his fights,
some shit was empty, I didn't like that, I wanted to bring him back.
But that same thing with Charmers, you want to play, we'll do pay-per-view, you'll make
a lot of money.
I'm not saying you're not making money with the Mack Goulas, but you'll make a lot of
money fucking with me, but you got to do lot of money fucking with me but you gotta do something get hot run outside naked
smoke some meth
kidnap a baby
if you smoke meth you ain't coming back
well that's what I may be
do what you gotta do to get hot
you can do a lot of shit to go viral
you ain't wrong okay well let us know
what y'all think and also was he
tripping with what he said
we will be right back. All this thinking about is toxic Four years of counting
Got you feeling like an option
Maybe I'm my own problem, babe
She tired of hearing I don't know
What's happening in me won't flow
Dealing with this thing called trust
But she really thinking about us
She wanna be free
why am i in this woman way free
hell i don't wanna see her walk away i wish somebody told me the rules
disagreements let her win then it's cool even when i'm right to sing about Welcome back.
Okay, huge switch.
Andrew Wiggins announced he will miss a large amount of games
to a very personal matter.
And there's no sign of his return.
Now, I'm not here to say what happened,
but there are a lot of rumors circulating.
His girlfriend, also his baby mom, tweeted,
The internet is a really sick place.
Steph Curry commented in an interview and said,
This is a tough situation with him being away for so long, but necessary.
Life is bigger than basketball.
What are y'all's thoughts?
Whew.
If, just, let's go straight to it Andrew where are you I'm putting APB out I don't want to hear all
of this about there's nothing going on it's not what we think well what is it tell me what is it
Steve Kerr Steph somebody tell me what's going on.
We paying money.
We flying out the Golden State.
You not showing up for games.
Where are you?
That's what I need.
That's the first thing I need to know.
We'll get to the scandal later.
But right now, I'm paying my money to see the whole team.
Where are you, Andrew?
Call me.
Let us know something.
What do you think?
I really would love to disagree with him, but I can't.
Listen.
Listen, man.
Listen.
Check this shit out, right?
We got to hold everybody accountable for the same things.
All right?
You can't have special privileges for one player and for another
one other and another one different rules and I don't care if somebody got a track record
or don't if this was Kyrie Irving. Y'all be all over his ass. Y'all be Kyrie's missing.
He ain't playing. There's no answer. They're not giving us anything. What's happening?
No, he's back on the tangent. He disappeared again. He's great with basketball, but I can't trust his
appearance. Yeah, I can't trust him. Come on,
Andrew. This is not the same.
He's not being trained. Keep that same energy.
Keep that same. There you go. Keep that same energy
for everybody because when Kyrie
want to take two, three days off, he
has to tell all his business. We have
no idea where Andrew's at
and then why he's not
playing. Yeah, this ain't COVID.
Yeah, exactly. And not only that.
Do you got Corona?
If you ain't got Corona, come to the game.
They would tell him if he had Corona.
The whole thing is this also is that...
What if he does have Corona?
They would say it. They do all type of things.
They will let us know that. The whole thing is then when people make rumors up
or supposed to be rumors and they be like, oh will let us know that. The whole thing is, then when people make rumors up, or are supposed to be rumors,
and they be like, oh, that's not true,
you people are stupid.
If people start speculating,
that's your job to clear up the speculations.
And if you don't want to clear up the speculations,
that's fine too.
But don't get mad for niggas assuming.
Niggas gonna assume, my nigga.
Cause I see Draymond, and shout out to Draymond,
that's my bro, what up Dray? I just see how Draymond. That's my bro. What up, Dray?
I just see how you know because you're an insider.
So you're like, people are stupid making these rumors up.
And I dig it because you got an inside opinion.
Dray, tell us what's going on, Dray.
That's your man.
No one knows that's your man.
Hold on a second.
Dray, tell us what's going on.
But if you really, really want to dead the speculation,
you have to give an answer.
I understand because that's your friend
and that's your teammate and everything else.
But you have to give an answer
because then it's going to be speculation.
And then you'll be like,
well, people are stupid just to assume that.
That's what people do. They assume.
Yeah.
So the original topic is that she fucked his friend
and had a baby with his man.
Oh!
That's the reason they say that Andrew
is not coming to the game.
I don't know if that's true or not.
That's what the rumors are saying, his baby.
Oh!
Oh!
Wait.
Oh!
Oh, wait.
Wait, wait, wait.
Wait.
Wait, wait, wait. We. Wait, wait, wait.
We need order in the court.
We need order in the court.
Yo, yo, we need order in the court.
I can't put up with this.
Objective.
Please, please tell me that didn't happen to no Andrew.
I need to know right now.
Yo.
Hey, listen, they say whoever said don't kick a man
when he's down, he surely wasn't from Harlem.
Oh.
Because I need to know what's happening.
I think he pulled a gavel out. Oh. Because I need to know what's happening. He can pull the gavel out.
Wow.
Listen.
Wow.
Listen, that's the rumor, though.
They're saying that
his wife
or girlfriend
or baby mother,
whichever the title she is,
had an affair
with his best friend
and that
his babies aren't his.
Is it true?
It sounds very far-fetched.
I don't know if it's true or not.
Can I see the pictures? But, uh... Let me see the pictures. Is it true? It sounds very far-fetched. I don't know if it's true or not. Can I see the pictures?
But, uh.
Let me see the pictures.
Of the baby?
Yeah.
Just the kid.
I'm not gonna judge the kids,
but I do wanna see, I think when I see.
You should pull it up, you can show them.
When I see the picture, it's gonna come to me.
This is the picture right here.
Mm. Mm-hmm. This is the picture right here.
Yo, I'm not. I'm not saying nothing.
I'm not saying nothing. I'm gonna leave that alone.
This nigga is crazy, man.
Your Honor, I have nothing else to say.
What I will say is this, though,
my final thought on the whole thing is
people are gonna make speculations,
people are gonna start rumors.
If you don't clarify them, everything you hear
is a go or a cool until you clarify what's going on.
But whatever's going on, I wish you the best.
I am a fan of yours.
I hope the kids are yours.
I hope you work everything out with your wife
and get back to basketball real soon, homie.
Cause all this other shit, AstroTurf is bullshit, man.
Yeah, we're just having fun.
For all of you looking in, don't take any of this
too personal, don't look for me.
Don't look to, you know, run me down.
Cause we're just having fun.
If you're scared scared say so murder
You're scared now apologize now
You hope the baby
I don't know the nigga. I'm just saying I fuck the fucked up position to be in. I'm just thinking about the position he's in.
Pause.
I don't know that nigga from nowhere.
To tell the truth, I'm just saying, damn, that's fucked up.
How you going to play basketball?
Yeah.
And your man is fucking your girl because now you may be scared to leave home. I was trying to back you up because if the kid is his, it's his.
If it's not, it's not.
Don't ever try to back me up.
Pause.
I don't approve this message, but we'll be right back.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Pink Horse Power.
She call this thing abouts toxic.
What's happening, babe?
Baby, what's happening?
Why you walk in like that?
That's how, that's how I walk.
And then like, you come on breathing on me like that.
I fucking breathe to live. And like, like, you come on breathing on me like that. I fucking breathe to live.
And, like, you used to be dark-skinned, and now you act like hella light-skinned.
You fucking blind? I'm dark-skinned. What the fuck?
And then, like, look at your beard.
The fuck is wrong with my beard?
Your beard looks stupid.
What the fuck are you talking about?
No, I don't even like it. The way you breathe and all of that.
Has this ever happened to you?
Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset.
She's frustrated.
There's only one way to handle that.
Pink Horse Power.
But your breath! But your breath is really refreshing! No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage.
Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately?
It looks so good.
No!
PHP.
It works every time. Wait, where are you going?
Welcome back. Okay, so ESPN announced after imaging that Clipper star Paul George has
a sprained right knee and will be re-evaluated in two to three weeks. As we know, KD was just hurt with a sprained ankle
and LeBron suffered a tendon injury.
What are your thoughts on all these athletes getting hurt?
I think that what it is is this,
is that the NBA markets players to turn them into superstars.
So we get infatuated with these players when they're not available,
we're let down. You love players
more than the team. I asked one of my
homeboys, I said, who's your favorite team?
He said, LeBron, then I fuck with KD.
I said, yo,
what team?
Who's your team? Nah, LeBron, then KD,
then when LeBron retired, KD
my favorite. I said, I didn't ask you your favorite
players. He said, I don't give a fuck who they play for
because the NBA markets, they're superstars.
And so you're so infatuated with the superstars
that when it's time for them to play and they're hurt,
you fucked up.
We talked about this on a previous show
about how superstars aren't available
when you want them to come.
Or for a young person or somebody else
to work hard to buy a ticket to come to for a young person or somebody else to work hard
to buy a ticket
to come to your town, they're not available.
Right now with the injuries,
it's tough. You know, these niggas crying
talking about they don't want to play 82 games,
you should top down to 70. Let me tell y'all a quick
stat before I let the nigga murder go.
Karl Malone, his whole tenure
in Utah,
he missed six games in
18 seasons.
And I know niggas are like, well, this ain't the 70s, the 80s, the 90s.
It's just about toughness, nigga.
Six games in 18 seasons is fucking crazy, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Mike played with the flu.
Yeah, the flu, all type of shit.
Worse than all that, Isaiah played on one leg, Isaiah Thomas.
Killed niggas.
Had about 40 of them, I believe it was.
Great games.
But right now, you chip a fingernail, you're hurt.
Three weeks.
Yeah, three weeks.
For a fingernail.
Yeah, and four and a half weeks for air wax.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
All type of shit.
They just don't play.
But if you're really hurt, I think you're really hurt. I don't think that hurt i think you're really hurt i don't think that kevin durant cheeses i don't think lebron james
cheeses i think lebron went for years without getting hurt certain people would just be like
uh no i can't do it i'm just gonna sit out and it it up for the younger kids who really
want to see these kids play you know what i think it is i think it's their sneakers
who really want to see these kids play?
You know what I think it is?
I think it's their sneakers.
I think it's the wearing the low tops.
Because if you notice all the injuries that people are getting,
they're really the knee and below,
which has a lot to do with the stability of the shoe.
That has a lot to do with the impact that's hitting the sneaker.
If you look back in the days, nobody would dare play in low tops.
There was a reason why you played in high tops.
Now people thinking they saw Kobe play with low cuts, but Kobe was different.
I think you hurt yourself trying to follow something
that you don't know everything that went into it.
I think the first person I saw playing in low tops was Steve Nash,
and he wasn't a high flyer, so I could understand that.
But when I saw KD go on the layup line
and trip over his own feet,
the first thing I looked at was his sneakers.
I'm thinking, and I love KD.
KD is like one of my favorite players in the league,
but the sneaker just, why would you be playing in low tops?
I don't get that.
I think you made a good point about Kobe Bryant.
Yeah, when we was young, we didn't play in low tops.
But I think that Kobe Bryant,
when he started playing,
you got to realize a lot of,
a lot of players,
Kobe is, they Michael Jordan.
Like for us, Michael Jordan.
Michael Jordan. Like for Kevin Dur Durant I heard Kevin Durant
say that before
that Kobe's his Michael Jordan you know what I'm saying
so at the end of the day
what Kobe said was
he see all these soccer players playing
in low cut sneakers and they gotta
do way more cuts and breaks
and they ran barefoot
he never ran barefoot I don't know that but yeah the reason why people wear with that they wear that lower shoe
because they train their feet it's like a marathon runner when i first tried to train for a marathon
the guy told me from africa just run with your bare foot i said man i'm not doing that i did it
for a couple times and i recognized my ankle got stronger.
But until they put that type of training in, you can't play with no low-top sneakers.
That's probably why they're tearing their Achilles, all of the knee injuries.
It got a lot to do with how you land.
So if your foot is not stable, then your ankle is not going to be stable,
which makes your knee unstable.
Look at me. Don't be stupid for TV. Sneakers are not for swag.
So I do have a bit of an interesting question. So I know when like NBA players get hurt,
I feel like they're out for a lot longer time, but then compared to football,
you know, they come back in kind of quicker. Do you feel like that's an issue? Do you feel like
they're just taking more time off in the NBA or do you think it's really like a problem like what do you guys think about that i think
because it's certain players they're not going to cheat like i said i just think that kevin
duran lebron james are he bringing them up because they really love basketball they really love it
yeah you got people will be like yo listen man we still in the playoffs You got people who'll be like, yo, listen, man.
We still in the playoffs. We got time.
We'll get to it.
It depends. I think it's no
one particular answer for one
player, for all players. It's a different
case. It's on a case-by-case scenario.
You know what I'm saying?
As far as football is concerned,
it depends, too.
First of all, anybody who fucking tear their Achilles,
it don't matter, football, basketball, whatever, you're out.
Right.
You're out.
It don't matter.
Definitely.
Yeah, it's a further notice.
So it depends on, I don't think it depends on the sport.
I think it depends on the injury,
and then you can make your assessment from the injury and say,
well, how come niggas keep getting Achilles tears in football?
Or why this person, you know, you're not getting a lot of concussions in basketball.
You're not saying you can't.
There's way more concussions in football.
So you may say, oh, he's only out two weeks.
Concussion protocol is 10 days.
So he going to be back in two weeks.
It depends on the injury.
And football is just tougher, you know.
Some people know it.
Some people get sacked one time and want to play basketball the rest of their life.
I think the people who play football, it's definitely tougher.
But our question was, why do they come back quicker?
Because they're tougher?
Because they're tougher.
Okay.
Yeah.
Hot take.
So before we wrap, if it was up to y'all, right, if you had to play football or basketball?
I play basketball. The money is guaranteed.
Yeah, look, we grew up playing
basketball, both of us, and we only
six feet. My thing is,
and this is some real shit. I'm gonna be
dead-ass serious, man. So, you know,
we grew up at a time where,
you know, and it's funny, I was talking
to my nigga Bezo the other day, and he was telling me how good he was in tennis, but his brother discouraged
him and been like, fuck you playing tennis for, you bitch ass nigga.
This is what he told me, yo, Bezo.
You just told me this the other day, and he like, fuck you playing this feminine ass shit.
You know, B, he's a little older, so you're talking about the late 80s, 90s,
late 80s, really, for him.
Because niggas is playing.
Niggas like, fuck you doing with a tennis racket?
We live in New York where every other block is a basketball court.
Every other block.
We used to be mad.
It was a person on our team, on the basketball team, who played football.
I know, you about the same.
And we used to be mad at him for playing football.
We used to be like, yo,
cause it was interfering with basketball season
and we needed him.
And we used to be like, yo, would you get the fuck,
y'all not winning?
Would you come the fuck over here?
Cause we gonna win and we need you.
But he actually was tougher.
He was actually six foot.
That nigga was playing power forward.
That's a fact.
That's a good point, yeah. And we needed him. And we were leaving it all. Yeah. That's a fact. That's a good point.
Yeah.
And we needed him.
Yeah, that's a fact. Everybody looking at him like, yo, he's about an hour higher.
Shorter than us.
And he was a power forward.
But he's getting all the rebounds.
That's a fact.
But I'm just saying, that's a good point.
But New York niggas don't play forward.
Listen, let me tell you something.
We live in a city where that shit going 100 miles per hour.
It's not going gonna be hard it's gonna be hard to even try to get an organized football game because everybody gonna call back why the fuck he got the quarterback i can't i can't be the
quarterback i don't want to be blocking nobody is definitely playing the front line yeah that's
exactly why am i blocking but they're here? Yeah, a practice would never last.
A coach be trying to organize some shit,
and niggas would walk right out.
You'll never get 18 niggas to play baseball.
And they wouldn't play safety.
Everybody got to be wide receiver.
Yeah, but I'm saying even baseball,
you'll never get organized 18 niggas to be on the field.
Because everybody want to pitch.
Yeah, they could be like, fuck, I'm out here.
I'm out here.
Nigga in the outfield going to be on the cell phone at Harlem. Nigga in the outfield going to be on the field. Because everybody want to pitch. Yeah, nigga be like, fuck, I'm out here. I'm out here. Nigga in the outfield going to be on the cell phone
in Harlem.
Nigga in the outfield going to be like, yo, nigga,
ain't hit shit out here two hours, man.
Fuck you doing?
That's what niggas going to do.
I'm telling you, man.
So, motherfucking, to answer your question,
we're going to play basketball all day because we would
tease a football nigga just for having spandex on.
Like, yo, tight spandex.
Freaky-ass nigga.
We going shoulder pads and tights.
Like, that used to be our mentality.
I didn't realize how poppin' football was till I got to college.
I'm like, oh, football's the shit.
Because all the girls wanted the football play.
I went to school in Texas.
Yeah, the running back.
Yeah, I went to school in Texas.
So I'm like, basketball team's all right,
but the girls like the football play. I'm like, basketball team's aight, but the girls like
the football players, I'm like, where the fuck am I at?
You know what I'm saying?
So I had to learn that, man.
But that was our mentality.
But realistically, we probably would have been better football players.
We was athletic, fast, could catch.
And compete on every play.
Yeah, we too short to be basketball players, realistically.
Well, I posed the question, I want to see y'all's answers. I think I could be basketball players, realistically. Well, I posed the question.
I want to see y'all's answers.
I think I could be Mario Chalmers.
He my hype.
He's standing on it.
Yo, he's standing on it.
Hey, I'm trying to see it.
I don't know about y'all.
Chalmers, call us up, Chalmers.
Let's get it going.
Let's get it going.
Okay, well, that's all we have for today,
and we'll see you guys next episode.
It is what it is. What you want, nigga? Everything nigga supersize.
Like when they doing them two for five.