IT IS WHAT IT IS - IT IS WHAT IT IS TALK EPISODE 8

Episode Date: May 10, 2023

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Welcome back to It Is What It Is. I'm Treja Wilson, a.k.a. Stat Baby, along with your hosts Cam and Mace. So how we feeling today? What up, boy? How you doing? You good? I'm good. Doing great. I can't complain. That is good. Well, you know who's not feeling so great?

Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is still on the hunt. People are saying he could be traded on draft night, but it's still uncertain. How do we feel about this? How you feel, Cam? Fuck you. You're giving it to me. How you feel?

I just need to know how you feel about it, because me, you know how I feel about it. I think it's fucked up. It's fucked up. Yo, listen, man. That guy is just trying to get on the team and get paid where he's supposed to get paid because he don't have an agent. You fucking... You know what I mean?

This nigga. This nigga's crazy. Yeah. You don't got no agent. So now niggas is almost like crucifying him because he wants to do business on his own terms. But I get it from the team's point of view. They're like, we're going to cut agents out all the way if a player's too good.

But that ass is fucked up. The more, how I feel about it, I think it's fucked up that all these people got signed already. Niggas signed the Giants quarterback. Everything's signed. Listen. They signed the masseuse. He got signed last year.

Nigga, that's the whole... This is the reason this whole fucking shit is going on. They gave that nigga $250,000 and he was out for a whole year. Lamar Jackson's a fuck... Cameron, look at me for a moment. Fuck it, man. For those that do not know, a couple of weeks prior, I was telling Cameron that, you know what? This is a bad idea. And I was telling Cameron that, you know what, this is a bad

idea. And I knew it was a bad idea. Lamar Jackson called himself getting his buddy to be his agent, somebody he had business with. And to make a long story short, I told you this wasn't going to work. You was there for that. You did. I told you I'm never wrong.

I'm actually never wrong. I don't remember all that. You know what? Roll the tape. Roll the tape. Let me get my glasses for this. Can y'all bring my gaffle? I think he should get an agent.

I mean, thinking about it. Because it turned into a thing where if he doesn't show up with the right people, he's not getting a deal. This is what happens when you don't listen. Back to you, Cam. Whatever. The whole point is this. Objective.

On your Uncle Tom time, man. Objective. It's just fucked up, my nigga. Nigga trying to pave the way for athletes. Let me ask you this, Step Baby. I need to talk to somebody reasonable, man. Let me ask you this. And just be straight up.

Yeah. You judging this. You right now. Let me keep my glasses on. This is just. I'm leaving this. Be straight up. You're judging this. Let me keep my glasses on. I'm leaving this on you. Be honest. How do you feel you're a female basketball player? I'm putting you in this scenario. You could go negotiate a $100 million deal on your own

because you're smart enough to do it, but because they don't want to talk to you directly and they want to talk to a second, you know, basically a middleman who they're used to dealing with, and you got to give him 10, 15, possibly 20% of the million dollars you would make, how would you feel about it? Would you be like, well, this is the process,

fuck it, I just got to hire an agent and give him the 20%? Or you'd be like, well, I'm a college graduate. I can go in here and talk. I know this is my major. I can go in here and talk. Right. Why wouldn't they talk to me if I was going to do the same thing he does? Right.

That's the argument. What do you feel? What's your opinion? I don't know. It's like, if I know I could do it, I got to believe in myself and take it all the way through. So at that point, in Lamar's case, he's already this far. Keep going.

But at the same time, I get what you're saying. He went Kaepernick. I told you're saying. He went Kaepernick. I told you he was going to go Kaepernick. I told you it was going to be a Kaepernick result. Now, in the future, he might get the deal. And I pray, I pray, Lamar, you get the deal you want. I'm just happy. You're acting like he ain't going to be out the league.

It ain't no Kaepernick shit. It's just that he's not going to get the money he deserves to get. It's not like he's not going to be out the league. Now ain't no capping and shit. It's just that he's not going to get the money he deserves to get. It's not like he's not going to be out the league. Now he's asking to be traded. I saw that today. He's asking to be traded. So what's your answer? I mean, my realistic answer, I would get an agent,

but my heart, I wouldn't want to just because I've came this far. If you agree with me, just say you fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see I'm wearing green. I don't want to just because I've came this far. If you agree with Maze, just say you fucking agree with Maze. I don't give a fuck. You see him wearing green. I don't give a fuck. Y'all hang out with each other.

Y'all be best friends. He's like, green shit. Go back, niggas, take y'all 20%. I don't give a fuck. Y'all on a different type of time, man. I don't care where your heart at. That's why I'm like, I see both sides. Lamar, we wish you the best.

Yeah. Yo, fuck that, Lamar. Keep going. You're a valuable asset, man. You're playing great. At least you're playing great. He is. Okay, so speaking of...

He ain't even played the end of the season, my nigga. Speaking of QBs on the hunt, so is Cam Newton. He released a video, and he said, there ain't 32 guys that's better than me,

but I also know that I could also be a backup, but I also know that I could also be a backup and I'm willing to be a backup. He listed a few people he would be a backup for such as Tua, Jalen Hurts, and Bryce Young. What are your thoughts? I feel like he left out so many people. There's more people. There's just a couple. Oh, so when he says he's ready to backup, that's his job at this point. I'm a realist. I'm a realistic guy.

I don't think he's a starter at this point in the league anymore. What do you think, Cam? You want to disagree with me? Is he good enough to start? I think it's a team or two, maybe three, he's good enough to start. Will he start? No, he's not going to start anymore. So he's going to have to be a backup.

The problem with him being a backup is almost like Carmelo Anthony when Carmelo Anthony had to be a backup. It isn't about them not wanting to be backups. It's more about the teams and the coaches having so much respect for them saying, yo, we don't want to make you the 11th man on the team like you Carmelo Anthony or Cam Newton. That's what they're talking about. They were saying is Cam Newton's personality too big to be a backup.

That's the real question. It's one thing saying it like I don't mind being a backup, but then you get there and be like, oh, nah, this is that bullshit. Yeah. Somebody start underplaying, and now you're like, wait a, oh, nah, this that bullshit. I ain't got it. Somebody start underplaying, and now you're like, wait a minute, I should be in the game. Yeah, niggas is violating my nigga.

Some niggas is built for that. Some niggas ain't. Think about homeboy. It's like AI. He wasn't built for it. Yeah, everybody not built for it. Now check this out. Look at, what's my nigga out there in Seattle right now?

Which one? The quarterback. He took Russell Wilson's spot this year. Oh, man. I can't think of his name. He's not good. He's not good. He just got to renew his contract.

Yeah, Geno Smith. Geno Smith nigga was missing for six years, seven years. Yeah, that's what I remember when I heard his name in my mind. Geno Smith. Yeah, Geno Smith. So basically, yeah, he been missing for six years, seven years. Yeah, that's what I remember when I heard his name in my mind, Geno Smith. Yeah, Geno Smith. So basically, yeah, he been missing for years. He just came and did one year deal with Seattle. I just think he signed for some real good money. You can revamp yourself

sometime. You know, and Cam Newton, I'm not saying he's a spring chicken. He's like 33. You only got a couple years to do it, but football, anybody could go down any time. Look at Purdy. We ain't no Purdy at the beginning of last season. Now everybody talking about, yeah, we got Purdy.

Nobody fucking was thinking about Purdy, my nigga. So I'm happy for Cam. Can he really do it? I hope he can because some people will be like, nigga, I can back up. It's all good. It's part of the job. And he'll get there and be like, oh, I'm not no sucker.

The first nigga to go to Cam and beat Cam and be like, yo, pass me your water. Yeah, he's too eclectic to be a backup. Yeah, like once Cam will hear the wrong shit and be like, yo, what you mean pass you the Gatorade? Oh, nah. You think because I'm second string that I'm going to go be getting passed and get Gatorade and all that. Now fuck the whole job. I'm going to go begin passing niggas Gatorade and all that. Now fuck the whole job. I'm out. I retire. You never know. Well, let us know in the comments what

you think about Lamar and Cam, but we'll be right back. Maybe I'm my own problem, babe. She's tired of hearing I don't know. My stubborn enemy won't fall. Dealing with this thing called trust. But she really thinking about it. She wanna be free. Why am I in this one? She wanna be free. Welcome back. Okay, so I'm wearing green, so we got to talk about some big money moves. Yeah. The WWE and UFC are merging into one, forming a $21 billion company.

This will end decades of the WWE being a family-owned business, and the deal is expected to close later this year. What do you think about this, and is this a smart move? Great. It's great for business. It's great for the WWE and it's great for the UFC. I think the UFC needed to merge with them because, I mean, I think the WWE need to merge with the UFC because it looked like UFC was taking over. Not for the kids sake, but for the grown ups. Rob Markman I think the shit is dumb as shit, man.

You ask me. You got fake shit and you got real shit. Why the fuck are you going to confuse people when you got wild, real shit going on? They talking about Conor McGregor now could go to WWE and make money over there so he can really be fighting. But now it's like, yo, you know wrestling is fake, WWE is fake, and you know the UFC is real. So now if some nigga get knocked out of the UFC, they be like, nah, that's the WWE portion of the UFC.

That was fake right there. So you confusing the fan. I'm like, yo, I think if y'all both under the same umbrella, cool. Merging with each other, the sponsorship is fucked up. You're going to fuck up your brand. Yeah, you're right. I take that back. That's right. That's right. Yeah, because UFC fans are going to be like, I hope this ain't no WWE shit. First nigga that look like he ain't get hit for real, they're going to say, see?

Yeah, water down the brand. Yeah, they water down the brand. They was thinking about the money, because they know WWE make all that money, and the people that are in UFC, they're fighting for nothing. That's a fact. They're fighting because they want to fight. Yeah, now that's a fact. So they figure they can make some millions.

So that's the part I was speaking from. But when you think about the brands, it will be like evaporating one to start another one. Okay. So, we touched on mixed martial arts and pro wrestling. But I think that also poses a question for boxing to see what people are really tuning into. Do you think boxing is a dying sport? Did Don King ask you to say that?

No. I think that people People ready to see Dark King. I can't wait to see what fight he comes back with. I think boxing is... We're starting to get the fights we want to see. I think when we said that last week, it put pressure on people to even make that Terrence Crawford fight. But we'll talk about that later.

What you think, Killer? Killer Markman, Jr.: Now, when you're about Tarence Crawford, I think that personally, and I was looking at this Tarence Crawford, Errol Spence thing, seeing what's happening and everything, and everything is always still, still is saying, the sources say it's close to the ending. It's still pending? It's pending. Exactly. It's always fucking pending, bro.

How long is it going to be pending? Now, what I will say is this. Who you think it is, Errol Spence? I think Crawford want to fight a little bit more than Errol Spence. I don't think it's. I think what's going on is this. I think that Crawford finished his deal with Bob Arum. And now he can bust his own moves.

Yeah. To where now it's like Al Spence is like, oh now you free so you want to do what you want to do. Because I'm like, nah nigga, because I'm not free yet. I'm still under Al Heyman in these minutes. It is what it is. So you think Al is slowing it up? Who do you think is slowing it up?

Because the fight should have been having Cam. Come on. I think if you ask me, personally, I think Al Heyman just a busy nigga outside of boxing. Yeah. He like, yo, I'm going to call y'all next week. I'm going to give you 10 minutes. Yeah. On Monday.

They get to the phone. All right, we'll try it again next month. And Al go off and do concerts and all the hundreds of other different things that he do. That's just my opinion. I think somebody's holding up and it ain't Terrence Crawford. Rob Markman Well then that's the answer. You said that it's Errol Smith holding it up.

Just say that. But what I will say is this, as far as boxing is concerned, one of the biggest stars is Tank and Tank is fighting two times a year right now, three times possibly. And I like that. So other fighters I think are seeing that and it's like, damn, Tank's the biggest star and he's fighting people that niggas want to see. Who they want to see? He fought Rowley.

I wanted to see him. Yeah, I wanted to see him. I wanted to see him fight Devin Haney. Devin Haney is what we call him for after Ryan Garcia. Yeah. People want to see the Ryan fight. Yeah, they do. They do.

Yeah, so I think he's giving people the fight they want to see. He's the biggest star at this point. And now it's like, yo, we got to bust moves. Tank is the biggest star and fighting niggas we want to see and making money. We have boxers that are having two or three year gaps in between fights. And it's like, yo, you're wasting your own career because time is flying. Not saying y'all ain't making money doing other shit, but as far as giving niggas the fights that they want to see, when y'all in your prime, after a while nobody going to

care. Answer your question, boxing is a dying sport. I don't think it's dying, but I think it got like mononucleosis. Rob Markman, What is mononucleosis. Like, you know. What is mononucleosis? Yeah, it's like it got a little flu joint with it. It's a little sick. It ain't dying.

It ain't like it's about. COVID-15. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all boxing. Y'all need to get together. Y'all been sick for a little while. But we want to see these fights with fans of yours. And hopefully a lot of these fights that we want to see will happen.

Okay, well, you heard it here first. Boxing is sick, it's not dying. We'll be right back. That was crazy. That was crazy. Toxic. Four years and counting. Got you feeling like an option. Maybe I'm my own problem, baby. She tired of hearing, I don't know. My stubborn in me won't fall. Dealing with this thing called But she really thinking about She wanna be free Why am I Welcome back. Okay, so let's really talk about it.

The NFL only has three black head coaches. There is the Rooney Rule, which requires all NFL teams to interview a minority applicant. But how do we get more black coaches in pro sports? First, who are the three you're talking about? Okay, you got Mike Tomlin, Mike McDaniel, and Todd. All right, all of them black black?

I mean, one of them's multiracial. You got McDaniel for the Dolphins. That don't count. So we got technically probably two. Is he a nigga? Would he say he is? Probably not. He wouldn't.

Then we got two, right? He wouldn't say it. He wouldn't say it. For the barbershop, we got two. Got two. Okay. How do we feel about that? Yeah.

It depends on what will bring more quarterbacks. I think people got to stop... I mean more coaches, they got to stop hiring their friends. What do you think? We can go back and forth about this. Listen, there's no fucking black owners. You all right? Let's start there. Yeah.

Niggas ain't got them billions. Them football, that football money is generational. And they're going to keep the money in the family or people that they know. When you say hire their friends and all that, that's what the white coaches is doing. They hiring their friends and their family and their coaches. Look at Jerry. Yeah, I'm saying that's what make more coaches. Yeah, and look at Jerry out there.

Jerry's where his son is one of the coaches on the Cowboys. You know what I'm saying? So even Andy Reid, he had his son coaching on the Kansas City Chiefs too. So that's what they do. It's just that when a black coach does it and hires their friends, they hiring niggas with no experience. But white niggas are hiring niggas with their friends with experience. Black nigga hiring they uncle who never played or seen football ever in they damn life.

Like yo, got a job for you nigga, show up. Tata, you asking me for money. Come coach the Dolphins with me. Exactly. Exactly. Like, you know what's a great example. And we've been trying to get to this topic for a while. We love you, Dolphins.

Yeah. And the coach. Yeah, that was just an example. And you know what? We've been trying to talk about this topic. And this is a great example of a way to talk about this topic. Is that for years, you know, Patrick Ewan was part of the Charlotte Hornets coaching staff. Michael Jordan owns, you know, the-

The Bobcats. The Hornets. Yeah, the Hornets. The Charlotte Hornets. They keep whatever team. Right, but Michael Jordan owns the Charlotte Hornets. He hiring Patrick Ewan because that's his man. Because they play ball together.

Does that mean that Pat's a really good coach? So now what happens? Charlotte still ain't shit to this day because you're hiring bad people and your friends. Just because they're your friends, they don't know how to coach. Now what happens? Patrick Ewing, pardon me, he get the job

at Georgetown because he got NBA experience and he used to go to Georgetown. So niggas is like, yo, if we get Pat, maybe we turn a university around because he already got the NBA experience. He got the NBA experience. He used to be his

alma mater. Yeah, let's get in there. Pat, they just fired Pat out. Pat is 1-97 at Georgetown. I think Pat Deadass won in Georgetown. My goodness. I think Pat dead ass won six games. Yeah.

Maybe seven. He led them to a losing record. That's ridiculous. Seven games, they had to get rid of Pat. You know how fucked up that is to fire the fucking one that- A nigga who's jersey is in- ... is in the Raptors. That's crazy.

That is crazy. Just because you know how to play basketball, that don't mean you know how to coach. And y'all niggas who get these jobs, that don't mean hire your friends just because they're your friends. Hire somebody with some experience so you can keep your job. Makes sense. With that being said, we'll be right back. She called this thing about toxic Four years of counting Got you feeling like an option

Maybe I'm my own problem, babe. She tired of hearing, I don't know. What's happening to me won't fall. Dealing with this thing called trust. But she ain't really thinking about it. She want to be free. Why am I in this one? She want to be free. Why my head is wonky when I'm free

Hell, I don't wanna see her walk away I wish somebody told me the rules Disagreements let her win And it's cool when it's cool Even when I'm ready to sing about you Welcome back. Let's get into basketball. The Bucks have claimed the number one seed in the East for the 2023 NBA playoffs, and the Nuggets clinched the number one seed in the West.

Who do you got? On the West or the East? Both. I'm going to let him go first because he's just going to pick my team if I pick the team. You know, he knows I'm going to be right most of the time. Does that even make sense? Why would you let me go first if I'm going to pick the team that you're going to pick?

Wouldn't I let you go first and then I'd be like, yeah, that's the team? That's what I meant by you would pick my team. Anyway, listen, man. So, listen, to me, I think the Bucs are going on the East if Chris Middleton stays healthy. They went seven games last year with Boston without Chris Middleton. I think Chris Middleton, the key to Milwaukee getting to the finals. But I'm going to go with Milwaukee

on the East. And on the West, it's tough, man. Because you know what? I'm not sure if... Who you got if nobody gets hurt on the West? If nobody gets hurt? Nobody gets hurt. Who you got?

Shit. Cut off all the rope right there. Shit. That's tough, man. If I got a- Nobody gets hurt. Nobody fall on the layup line. No twists and no ankles.

No nothing. It's out of Phoenix and Golden State. Phoenix and Golden State. If nothing. Rob Markman, It's either Phoenix or Golden State. Phoenix or Golden State. If nobody got hurt. Rob Markman, Pick one. Pick one. Come on, man. Who would you put your money on?

If nobody got hurt? Golden State. Rob Markman, Golden State. Okay. Where'd you choose? Rob Markman, I got, I got, I'm going to go, mmm. Okay. Who did you choose? I got, I got, I'm going to go with the Suns. I'm going to go with the Suns and I'm going to go on a limb for Milwaukee.

I got the Suns and Milwaukee. Why do you got the Suns? That's bandwagon shit, man. Why you got them? Because they haven't lost since Kevin Durant came here. Okay. I like that answer though. I'm not mad at it.

I mean if you think about it- Who's your team matter of fact? Who's your team? I was going to ask. Who's your team? The champs, Cam. You know? My team always wins.

The champs. Who's your team? Golden State. That's your team? That's my team. Since. The champs. Ooh. Golden State. That's your team.

That's my team. Since when? Since. Which year? Since about, I mean, since Klay Thompson. Yeah, exactly. You ain't Billy Owens. You ain't Chris Mullin.

I wasn't with him. What's the high-flying nigga name that couldn't shoot from Detroit, Saginaw, somewhere? Yeah, man. Richardson. Listen, bro. I just was wondering. Tim Hardaway. I'm glad that you said you're Clay Thompson.

Yeah, I'm going to tell the truth, Cam. That's what I got the guy for, you know? All right, cool. Well, cool. I just wanted to see why he picked the Suns. Rob Markman, And they gonna beat them in six. Okay. So, he said his team, so what's your team?

Rob Markman, My team? Yeah. Rob Markman, My team really never lose. Who's your team? Rob Markman, My team is the Harlem Globetrotters, nigga. I'm from Harlem, nigga. You never lose, nigga. Every time we play, we beat ass Washington Generals and whatever things we wanna fucking

win. Harlem Globetrotters don't lose. Rob Markman, You know what I'm saying? I'm a big fan of the Harlem Globetrotters. I'm a big fan of the Harlem Globetrotters. I'm a big fan of the Harlem Globetrotters. I'm a big fan nigga. You never lose, nigga. Every time we play, we beat ass Washington Generals. Whatever these motherfucking win, Harlem Globetrotters don't lose, nigga. That's my team. Yeah.

Okay. So, last question. Do y'all follow a team for the team or for the player? Normally, it's for the player because if your player leaves then you got to switch teams. At one time I liked the Spurs when they had Tim Duncan, then the Lakers were my team with Magic and then after Magic left because of HIV, the Bulls were my team. Okay, see this is great to clarify because you did say the Warriors for Klay Thompson so I'm just trying to see, are you following the player or are you following the team?

I'm following the team as long as they got my play on it. Okay. And then what about you? Nigga, the Globetrotters, nigga. You don't lose. That's it, man. I don't switch up, nigga. Harlem Globetrotters, nigga.

Y'all always a home game, man. We ain't got no arena, but y'all always a home game, nigga. Harlem Globetrotters. Okay. respect. We'll be right back. Pink Horse Power. She call this thing about toxic. What's happening, man?

Baby, what's happening? Why you walking like that? That's how I walk. And then, like come on and breathe in on me like that. I fucking breathe to live. And like you used to be dark skinned and now you act like hella light skinned. You fucking blind? I'm dark skinned. What the fuck?

And then like look at your beard. What the fuck is wrong with my beard? Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are you talking about? No, I don't even like it. The way you breathe in, all of that. Has this ever happened to you? Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset. She's frustrated. There's only one way to handle that. Pink Horse Power.

No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately? It looks so good. No! php it works every time wait where are you going welcome back okay so i have a real interesting topic brett farm's attorney argues that the lawsuit against him seeking for the recovery of misspent money in the Mississippi welfare scandal should be dismissed. This was the state's largest ever corruption case.

What do you think about this? That was a lot. I need you to read that again. Favre, Brett Favre, misappropriation, millions of dollars, in Mississippi? Yep. $77 million to be exact. That sound like white boys doing nigga stuff now. For real.

So he took the money, what, like a PPP? What's the question exactly? So what do you think about his attorney trying to dismiss the lawsuit case? So basically the attorney want the lawsuit being dismissed. Yeah. Niggas out of hand, my nigga. Like, yo, first of all, I'm telling you right now, it's Mississippi, so it's already going to be racially divided no matter what happens

because it's Mississippi. But in the court of public opinion, you know it's going to be racial again because first thing black people want to say, now if that was us, niggas ain't throwing shit out. Niggas would have already been on trial, in jail, sentenced or whatever the case may be if they're found guilty. Them niggas would have been in jail

if this same thing happened to somebody black. Right now this shit is dragging out. I have no idea where the case is at. But the point being is you out of pocket for asking to throw the case out. Nah, you gotta go to court, bro. You gotta go to court. He spent five million on a volleyball facility.

I mean, he spent it like a PPP. I'm telling you, it's... White boys acting like niggas now. That's all I can say. Y'all not hearing me. That's too much money. Favre, listen to me. Favre, you can't do fake philanthropy. You can't take the money for one thing and say you're going to do something else. So he did say that he didn't know that the money he was receiving for his projects was welfare money.

So he said he didn't know. How much money do you have to spend to know this is too much money to be spending? 70 something million? This happened in Mississippi. But what I'm saying is this too at the same time, right? Where did he think the money was coming from? Like, okay, cool. You didn't know it was coming from London.

You know you're not spending your money. Yeah, niggas like, that's what niggas be like. Don't tell me where it's coming from. I don't want to know. Just, you got two million? Nigga said, cool, don't tell me. This is what I'm trying to say. Where did you think the money was coming from if you didn't know it was coming from welfare?

It sounded like he was investing welfare money. Sound like white boys acting like niggas. There's no way around it. I can't come up with nothing else. But white boys acting like niggas, yeah. Go to court, man. I'll tell you that much. Go to court, bro.

That ain't getting thrown out. Hey, Redfall. Like people ain't letting that slide. No. If you get felt innocent, cool, but you got to go to court. Right. Okay, well, that's all we have for today. Stay tuned for the next episode

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