IT IS WHAT IT IS - #ITISWHATITISTALK EPISODE 27 PART 2

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

PAUL PIERCE ARE YOU BETTER THEN D.WADE...

I said it's only one. Oh, he ain't got it. He ain't got it. He done hurt his tongue. Hurt his tongue. Welcome back to It Is What It Is. It's Stat, Kim, and Mace. We're live in Vegas and back with a part two.

And we are still here with Paul Pierce. So before we ended part one, Paul was clearing up some crazy allegations and rumors. So Paul, the floor is yours. Real quick, Paul. I floor is yours. Real quick, Paul, I'm sorry. Just real quick. Paul was telling us what happened last episode. He said, I pull my hard hat and go to

work. I didn't even say nothing about it, but I thought I'd bring that up at the start of this show. He's holding a bang. Yeah, he's off the first episode. Off the first episode. He said, I pull my hard hat and I go to work. No problem, Paul.

No problem. Stop. Stop. No, but seriously, like, Paul was giving us some really good insight. And I'm, like I said, I'm a real big Paul Pierce fan, KG fan. Just, you know, I like what you guys was doing. And you was telling us at the end of the last episode

about some rumors that happened yeah they say I faked the knee injury because I shit my pants in the finals like that don't even make no sense

right so that's the narrative wasn't that liberal no but I guess that's what the rumor is that's what social media that's what this new generation running with

and like if I don't get this I I don't know where. I made a joke about it one time about, like, I had to go to the bathroom when I was on telecast during the finals. But that, like, that ain't it. Like, why, if I shit myself, why would I jump in a wheelchair and smush it in a wheelchair and roll to the back? Like, come on, bro.

Like, come on. Like, that don't even make sense. So I'm tired of that narrative. Right, and let me ask you this. Before social media, what did people say about that? It wasn't nothing brought up. It's just, you know, social media come up with stuff. Right.

And then once the fire is lit, it's just a flame and then a wildfire. Yeah, so basically, I ain't going to hold you. So basically, niggas is like, reason Paul. You're tired of hearing like, yo, Paul shit his pants. That's why he went in the wheel. He didn't want a nigga to see the back of his pants. But time out. Not to be funny.

Did they smell something? No, we going to find that clip. A nigga is summer league shit in his pants. Did you see that? No. No, I swear. I didn't think about it. Find the picture. Yeah. A nigga shit summer league shit in his pants. Did you see that? Nah. No, I swear. I didn't think but find the picture. Yeah. A nigga shit and he had the white shit and I'm like, oh, he's nigga scared

to shit on that nigga literally. Nah. All jokes aside, I didn't even know that that story's about you, but literally a nigga shit in his pants and was playing two days ago in summer league. Nah, so I want to get that out there. So they said you was in a wheelchair.

So they said the reason I faked the knee injury because I shit in my pants and I took a wheelchair to the back to change or whatever. Yeah, whatever. So what really happened? I tweaked my knee, which was a light sprain, MCL sprain. I didn't ask for a wheelchair. They brought a wheelchair out, and the doctor was like, sit in this. I went back in the back.

He was like, all right, stand up. So I stood up like, all right, let me see how I feel. All right, it's a little bit of pain, but all right, it ain't that bad. I'm moving it side to side. I said, give me a little bit of pain, but all right, you know, it ain't that bad. I'm moving inside the saw. I said, give me a knee brace. Cool. Let me put the knee brace on. I could tolerate this pain, so I went back out.

Period. Did you fart or anything? No, don't do that. Don't do that, Berger. Don't do that, though. Don't do that, though. So I put the knee brace on. I didn't even go, though. So I put the knee brace on. I didn't even go to the bathroom.

I put the knee brace on. I was like, all right, I'm cool. It's the finals. It's the finals. I'm like, I need to get out there. That was, for your generation, a Willis Reed type moment. You get what I'm saying? What's up?

Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Deja Pu, man. What's the nigga name, bro? Deja Pu. J.D. Davidson. J.D. Davidson. Deja Pu is crazy.

Deja Pu is wild. Come on, now. Deja Pu is wild. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. But now, listen, man, one thing I will tell you is this, Paul, and just me, I'm Cam.

I'm not, this is all just sad. This is worth everything I love. We, being celebrities and being in the public eye and being, just being, if you wasn't nobody, nobody would give a fuck. Yeah, for sure. Nobody would give a fuck. You know how long I did?

Cam is gay, he wears pink. Bring your mother around, nigga. See if she get fucked, nigga. See if your mom look good. See if her home fucking, nigga. Tell y'all gay I am. I'm fucking the pink mink, nigga. The fuck is you talking about, nigga?

You know what I'm saying? Right. So you can't let too much bother you. I know what you're saying is overwhelming and y'all burning it out. But if you wasn't nobody, nobody wouldn't give a fuck. Yeah, it don't bother me though. Because I can tell it bothers you. No, it don't bother me.

Okay, cool. No, but I'm just tired of it on my social media. It don't bother me. But you never answered the question. I wear the black hat. Mm-hmm. I embrace that, but like, don't do that. Gotcha.

You know what I'm saying? Don't make the narrative that... And I always said, the only shitting I did was on the Lakers. You know what I'm saying? That's the only thing I did. Period. So let's change that narrative. Move forward. And let's go.

Don't discredit me. Don't discredit my career because I'm one of the... I'm him. I was one of hims. Period. And if they don't know this new eight-year-olds, these 10, 12, 15-year-olds who wasn't born, go to YouTube. Right. Go to YouTube.

Let me, before Stack continues, because I know we have to get to the next question. Before Stack continues, yesterday, I know we have to get to the next question. Before that continues, yesterday, Paul George ran down on Mace because somebody said that Paul George was the GOAT. And I said that that kid, whoever said that, is on drugs or whatever, whatever.

And I would say to myself when I'm acting, shout out to Paul George. You know that. You my guy. I'm just fucking with'm acting, shout out to Paul George. You know that. You my guy. I'm just fucking with you. Big shout out to Paul George. Are you better than a Paul George in his prom and your prom? And do you think, two-part question, that's part one.

And part two, do you think that it's cool for some kids to think that Paul George is their GOAT? Yeah, I think it's cool for some kids to think that he's their GOAT. Okay. Okay, that's whatever. You're a fan of him. That's who you emulate. That's who you want to be like. Fine.

Right. Now, as far as am I better than Paul George, I'm going to leave that question to everybody else. I'm just saying, who would you rather have? Who's the real Paul? Chris Paul, Paul Pierce Pierce or Paul George? Paul. That's a great one.

What's the order of the Pauls? Yeah. I'm saying if you want to win, who you want? That's crazy, but we just. What's the order of the polls? If you want to win. One, two, and three. What I'll say is this.

This is what I'll say is this. And regardless. Great question, man. I like that question. But what I'll say is this. Great question. And like I said, I'm big on accolades. Accolades is a major. Okay, that means something. No, no, no, no. But what I'm saying is this, and like I said, I'm big on accolades. Accolades is a major.

Okay, that means something. No, no, no, no. But what I'm saying is this. You have to write team, write chemistry, so on and so forth. But you are top, for this question, you're the top 75 player. Not only to me that doesn't matter, not just winning the championship, to get the MVP in the championship matters as well. So I'm going to put you at the top of the polls right now.

Who's second to you? Chris or Paul George? Yeah. Probably Chris Paul. I mean, his resume is a little, you know, when you talk about, like, all NBA teams. But if you want to win, like you said, if we want to win, we're going with Paul Pierce.

Who are you going with? If you want to win, and you got to match them up with Kobe, LeBron. Like, you want to win? Like, who you want on them? Because that's what I've done since that. Right. You know, and I'm not discrediting these guys. So, out of them two, if you want to win, who's second?

If you want to win, who's second? If you want to win? I mean, neither one of them has won. So you can flip a coin on that. What I will say is this, and like I said, you know. Paul is very political. Very political. He should go into politics. Paul George, like I said.

Oh, no, that's a good one, though. No, that's a great one. Paul George ran down on Mason. In a good way, not bad. Talk about, ask Ken why I can't be the GOAT. Why I can't be the GOAT. This is what I will say, Paul George, and I want to say this to you, looking in the camera.

I gave you a hard time, Paul, about not being the GOAT. Yeah. No disrespect, but to me, it's just a lot of players before you. But what I will say is this. I want to commend you on coming back from such a gruesome injury to playing at a high level. I don't know if you're Indiana Paul, George, but even coming back, walking again, playing at a high level,

getting another great contract, I do want to commend you on that because you and Sean Livingston's injuries was probably two of the most gruesome injuries I saw live when I seen them play. So big shout out to you, Paul. Let me ask Sean this. Yep. So he could be the pause, the comeback goat.

All right, no, no, no, no, no. So we talk about the pause. Right. Yeah. Now, if you put me with Kevin Durant and Buck Booker, you think we could win a champ? Yes. If you put me with Kevin Durant and Booker.

But listen, what I'll say is this. The thing, because we like kind of give Chris Paul a hard time. And we're fans. We just be fucking with Chris Paul up here. We're really fans. No, you're really a fan. You don't speak for me. Yeah, my bad.

Are you right? I can't speak for you. You're absolutely right. Brandon Marshall did the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad. He said, everybody go through that. Everybody don't go through that.

I'm a Chris Paul fan, but I'm big on Paul's. You haven't won anything. So it's like I give him all the time same thing but Chris Paul the best abilities availability he's never available in May in June he's always hurt so back to the same thing you was just saying you got Devin Booker and you got KD he didn't play in the series he played the first two games so how do we know what what happened with a healthy Chris Paul we don't know but he's always hurt at that time of year. And I know a lot of people are always injured.

That's true. They always say. No, no, you know what? You're right. I'll give that to Chris. What they all say is that, and you know better than me, nobody's healthy in May, Cam. Nobody's healthy in June.

But he's not even healthy enough to be on the floor. You know what I'm saying? So we don't know. And I'm not saying just with, I, um, I'm not even saying with, he was healthy on the floor last year when Luca Donkis came in there, game seven, they won by 40. There you go.

There you go. But what about when they're one game away from the championship against Golden State in Houston? He wasn't healthy. Right. Then, you know, uh,

damn, he was healthy there, but then... He's never healthy. No, yeah, you're right. I would say this about Chris Paul. He's been the unluckiest superstar in history when it comes down to health in the most crucial moments. Right.

Because like you said, in Houston, even with the Clippers, when I was there, he got hurt. It's like the most crucial times too and like who knows how he would have changed history but he's one of the greatest point guards to ever live I got him top 5 point guards ever

but just one of the more unlucky ones when it comes down to that who's your top 5 point guards now that we're speaking about that top 5 point guards alright are we considering Steph Curry a point guard? Yes. Yes, he is.

So my top five point guards is Magic, Steph Curry, Isaiah Thomas. You got Steph over Isaiah? Yes. Wow. You got... Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

Just go ahead. You got Steph over Isaiah. I don't even want to... You got Steph over Isaiah? No, but go ahead. Why not, though? Steph is a two-time MVP. Four chips.

Like, I mean, he changed the game. He averaged 30 multiple years. I mean, Isaiah's real, and I'm an Isaiah fan. No, I was just wanting you to prove your point. You can put him above him. Yeah, yeah. Man, Curry changed the game. We shoot threes like we shoot the threes.

You know what? And you know what another thing is? Listen, what I'll say is this, man. And Steph Curry and Klay Thompson, they changed the game. But did they really change the game, or did Mark Jackson change the game? Mm. Mm. And when I say that Mark Jackson changed the game, I'm saying he let them play with that style of play.

Everybody forgets that Mark Jackson was the coach at Golden State. Even to the playoffs. Right, but then Steve Kerr comes in and wins a championship automatically. Nobody was letting their team shoot that many threes. You didn't watch me and Antoine Walker listen man Antoine Walker

been doing that he was shooting 10 threes a game you shooting more than Steph and Clay did you see Antoine Walker y'all are not first of all

Antoine Walker yeah I remember that team he's not in the back he's not in the back Patino and all that we shot a lot of threes was y'all making them not that they clipped

no not that they clipped no they. Not that they clipped. No. They two greatest shooters. But we played that style. Like, this style was played. But like, the style was played. This is the thing.

Killer. The style was been played. It's just that they made the style to where you win. They won with that style because nobody thought you could win with that style because Antoine Walker was the stretch poor man that shot threes. But what I'm saying is this, Paul, and I'm not disagreeing with you.

These are the years that you talking about Wade ain't do nothing when you ain't do nothing. It puts you on out what you do. It puts you on notice when you win. Right. But see, what I'm saying is this, because I thought Mark Jackson was crazy when he said,

this is the greatest shooting backcourt ever, because nobody's paying attention to the verbiage. He said shooting backcourt. So when you start seeing these niggas, like Paul said, that was his original point. He said they won with that style. But what I'm saying is a lot of coaches wouldn't let you play with that style because they don't trust your shooting.

You got to see that shit in practice before you let niggas do that shit on the floor, right or wrong. And you had a lot of cachet in Boston. Like, that been your team for a long time to where no matter what coach came in there, you could still do what the fuck you wanted to do because niggas knew this was Paul Pierce's team from probably, yes, second or third season you was in

Boston. That being your team from the time you was there to the time you left. This is Paul. Even if KG and Ray Allen and Ronald come, it's still Paul Pierce's team. You could sit there and shoot 203s. You know what time it is, nigga.

It's my team. What the fuck is you talking about? They was making them, so they rocked with it. Right. But you know, this could have went all bad because nobody knew stuff was going to be as... He kept fucking breaking his foot. You know what I'm saying? Draymond first year was 2012.

Klay had been there for two years. Mark Jackson had to see that shit in practice and be like, we're going to run with this. We're going to run with this. Mark Jackson didn't make it up, though. He got it from Indiana. Remember they had Chris Mullen, Reggie Miller, and Dallas Shroom. I mean, and as they

kept switching the teams up, Sam Perkins and different people at different times. He saw the vision. He saw the vision. I'm shocked that Mark Jackson's not a head coach in the league today. He saw the vision. He saw the vision. I'm shocked that Mark Jackson's not a head coach in the league today. He saw the vision. So, you know, shout out to Mark for seeing the vision, and then they put Kerr in that position to carry it to the next level, and the rest is history.

Yeah, I talked to Mark about it. I said, how you feel? He said, man, as long as they don't disrespect the Caterpillar and rave about the butterfly. I said, I hear that fly shit, nigga. So you're on your third point guard. So Magic, Steph, Isaiah. Then right there, I got to go Oscar Robinson.

And then after that, for me, it's got to be, I'm going to go Gary Payton. See, you didn't even have Chris Paul in your top five and just said he was your top five, and then you don't name your top five. You're confusing us here. Yeah, Paul. You said he was top five, and then you don't name him in your top five. He's in everybody's top five. But you didn't name him in your top five just now.

Yeah, and you didn't name Tiny Archibald. Yeah, but how the fuck Paul? Don't hold a car. Chris Paul is going to be recognized as a top five point guard. I don't know what he fucking drinking, bro. He just said the nigga was top five and named five. He's on ESPN's top five. I said Paul Pierce top five.

Yo, Paul, what the fuck you drinking? I just asked you. You said Magic, Isaiah, Steph, Oscar Robinson, Gary Payton, no Chris Paul. But the reason that made me ask you who you're talking about because you said Chris Paul's in my top five, then you don't put him in your top five. No, I said Chris Paul is a top five point guard. He'll go down when you see the ESPN and all that.

But my top five, who I want, that's mine. Got you. Say no more. Got you. So he's an honorary top five for you, but not your top five. No, no, no. He's top five who I want, that's mine. Got you. Say no more. Got you. So he's an honorary top five for you. No, no, no. He's top five. When you look at everybody's list at the end of the day, when he's done,

he's going to be on everybody's list. But mine is this one. But you're not a part of everybody? I don't get a vote. I don't get a vote. He's on everybody's top five. I don't get a vote. He's telling everybody. When they do the official AP, they're going to name him that.

Got you. Yo, Paul is crazy. Great answer. Okay. Last episode, we were talking about the ESPYs. Patrick Mahomes won the ESPY for best athlete in men's sports and best NFL player. Do you think he deserves both awards?

Best NFL player, yes. What's the other one? Best athlete in men's sports overall. Ooh. Ooh. Well, there's no more Floyd, so who else is there? There's LeBron. Who else is there? There's LeBron. Who else is there?

Reek Free. I might have to give it to him. Yeah, I might have to give it to Patty Mahomes, man. You might have to give it to Patty Mahomes. Man, that was wild. That was wild. That was wild. That's wild.

I'm just, I'm going to hold you. You might have to give it to Patty Mahomes. I ain't going to hold you. I'm really disgusted with myself behind that. That's crazy. That was wild. That's crazy. And I'm mad at myself. That's wild. And I'm mad at myself.

That's crazy. And I'm mad at myself behind it. I'm mad about it. What did he say? I almost walked off. He might have to give it to Patty Mahomes. Nah, he's going to give it. He might have to give it.

Y'all, I'm sorry about that. He might have to give it to Patty Mahomes. Shut up, Trey. You might have to give it. That was Jason. Disaccepted. You might have to give it. That was wild. That was wild. What are we talking about? That was crazy.

What type of show is this? That was crazy. That was wild. I'm disappointed in myself. Pause. I'm mad about it. Well, the nominees nominees if that helps he's super out of pocket

he is going for that so the nominees were Pat Mahomes, Lionel Messi Aaron Judge and Jokic so you would choose Pat Mahomes that would be your final answer I mean out of that I would definitely pick Patrick Mahomes think about it you know I'm going live now, Messi.

You know why? Because he did it at the World Cup. And then did you see the country when he went back? Went to the restaurant. He couldn't get out the restaurant. He couldn't get out the restaurant. You got a whole country pulling for you. You did it for your whole, oh, man.

Nah, I've seen that video you talking about. Messi, don't you see the videos with him acting his own country, dog. Yeah. He can't get off the airplane. He can't go to a restaurant. He can't go. No.

Now, he represented, he was the favorite and this is the World Cup. Right. And he cracked in the World Cup. I'm not mad at that. That was lit.

That was lit. It might be messy. It might be messy for the best athlete that I'm going to see. Best athlete. I'm still going to go with Patrick. I'm not disagreeing with you, but Patrick, listen, the thing about it is I like soccer. I like football.

When it comes to best athlete, it's nobody right now top. Tank is getting there. I'm talking about boxing like Mase just was about to relate to with Floyd. The thing about boxing, the thing about swimming in certain sports is no substitutions, no timeouts. It's no, I take a break on this play. So I like when we nominate people that in singles sports, especially tennis too. Tennis is a very underrated sport. Rob Markman Yeah, it's the same thing underrated sport. You know what I'm saying? There's nobody to blame.

There's nobody to blame in those type of sports. But Patrick Mahomes, horizontal passes, jumping in the air, all type of shit. I like the way Paul broke down when it came to Messi, but I'm going to go with Patrick Mahomes. I think he deserves it, man. At least this year that just passed. He won the chip even while he was hurt. But not only that, a lot of people didn't think they'd be the same because

the majority of his passes was going to Tyreek Hill. And Tyreek Hill left and ended up going to Miami. So they're like, oh, what is Kansas City going to do, even though Kelsey just stood there? When you think about it, like, who had more pressure on them to win, though? As far as you mean, Messi or... Yeah. Like, going into the playoffs,

yeah, Kansas City might have been favorite or not. But going into the World Cup, it was like, Messi, they should win it. Like, to win the World Cup

is bad. And not only that, Messi, the reason I'm congruent is because Messi kind of been taking a backseat to Ronaldo. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Everybody started getting Ronaldo out. Right. And they're like, Messi's backseat to Ronaldo. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Everybody started getting Ronaldo out. Right. And they're like, Messi's getting older. He showed up. He showed out. Exactly. So I dig that.

I dig that. That pressure on that World Cup, dog, because the world is watching. I don't even watch soccer, but I watched. Right. We don't watch soccer. Right. You know what I'm saying? We don't, as a culture, really watch soccer.

Right. But he made me watch. Right. You know what I'm saying? We don't, as a culture, really watch soccer. Right, right. But he made me watch. Right. And I was like. Yeah, I'm going to hold you. I watched the highlights. I'm not sitting there for four hours for one to zero. Same thing with baseball.

For one to zero. I'd rather them get back on steroids. We sitting there four or five hours, one to zero, talking about, oh, that was a great game. Look, man, one to zero is wild. I can't sit there that long for that shit, man. So I'm not mad at your choice,

but I'm going to go with America and Patty Mahomes. International? Yeah. Probably Messi, man. Okay. So you're choosing Messi, you're choosing Mahomes,

and what's your final answer? I'm going to go, I'm going to choose Pat. Okay. Let us know who you think should have won the award. We'll be right back. She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know

What's happening, me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about She wanna be free Oh, oh, oh. I wish somebody told me the rules. Disagreements let her win. Then it's cool. Even when I'm right, this ain't about you. Welcome back. Larsa Pippen and Marcus Jordan are back in the media again, but not by their choice. Michael Jordan said he doesn't approve of Larsa's relationship with his son.

On her podcast, she said she was traumatized. She said it wasn't funny and that she was embarrassed especially after she's been telling people mj was okay with it thoughts mj wasn't okay with that he said he wasn't they asked the nigga when he was leaving out like the paparazzi's like oh did you approve did you see the video yeah mike said Mike said no. The whole thing is, you know what her problem is, is that she been pumping that Mike is cool with it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

She be like, nah, you know, we all hang out and all this shit. Mike is like, yo, stop capping. What the fuck is he talking about? You got cappuccino all over you. That's graduation cap. What the fuck is you talking about? We all been hanging out together. We have not all been hanging out together in your life.

Because we know that's going to turn Scottie up. Yeah, I mean. Scottie like Mike was with y'all too? This is really, you know, we talked about this before on the show. And it's just like, to me, I don't know what happened with her and Scottie. But it's like she does the most to get Scottie upset. And to me, Scottie's been handling this like a trooper. Yeah.

We ain't hear him lash out when it was Future. Yeah. We ain't hear him lash out when it was the other niggas she was fucking with. Now you fucking with a teammate's son that you probably was around him. Like Paul just said, niggas go trick or treating on that little Mike and Al.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? 91, little Mike, eight years old in the crib and all this shit. You know what I'm saying? 91, Lil Mike, eight years old in the crib and all this shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, you got to think about this shit. That's what Paul was talking about. Right.

You don't do that. Yeah. Yeah, but this is what I'm saying. You watch this nigga grow up. Yeah, and she got in there to talk about she traumatized. Yeah, the audacity. Yeah, what do you think your kids are traumatized? Yo, that's like- Do you think your kids are traumatized? Yo, that's right.

Do you think your kids are traumatized? Listen, y'all think about this. Allegedly. I'm working on my allegedly. Do you think the kids could be traumatized, for real? I forget. We talked about this on an episode to where something was going on. Their son-in-law was playing for the Lakers.

Yeah. I can't remember was playing for the Lakers. Yeah. I can't remember what the fuck we talked about. Oh, but the dude that dated her is on the Lakers too. Yeah, but they son. That's what I'm saying. How does that work out in the locker room? What about his trauma, his traumatization or whatever that is? How does that work?

Like, yo, what you about to do? Now your mom's outside. I'm about to jump in the car. You want to be at the crib later? Like, yo, what you about to do? Now your mom's outside. I'm about to jump in the car. You want to be at the crib later? Like, yo, what the fuck? This shit fucking work. Yo, this shit is some wild shit. And I really believe that she's very inconsiderate of people.

She's very inconsiderate. Very inconsiderate. And she got the money. We are in the era to, this is weird. This is the weird era that we're in. Yeah. Right. Because like there's certain laws that apply to our era that you just don't do.

Right. And this era, they just throw that out the window. But the whole shit is this, Pete. She before all our eras old ass. Like, yo, it ain't like she from this era. Right. You're right. She's just using this era as the token to do what she want to do.

You're older than all of us. Yeah, you don't see Dolores and all them doing this. Yeah, this ain't like, she, like you said, we all know we're era, but you're not from this era, boo. Yeah. You're in your 50s. She from that era where ladies' names was Dorothy and- Yeah, and Phyllis. And Phyllis. Yeah. and Margaret and Margaret and Dolores

that's like all of a sudden my daughter was old enough to date Ray Allen like that's not cool yeah that's not cool that's not cool that's not cool you rebound with him and now he's talking about he caught your daughter on a rebound

that's gonna be crazy and then not only that it's like you know You rebound with him and now he's talking about he caught your daughter on a rebound. That's crazy. Right. And then not only that, it's like, you know, it's only from what we see in media. Like, it's not like Scotty and Mike got the best relationship right now. Because, you know, that used to be, you know, that was shit on the block. Mike sicked his son on it. Scotty acting funny and shit. Mike went and said, yeah, go grab the bitch. Youga talk about, Mike sick the sun on her, Scotty acting funny and shit. Mike want to say,

yeah, go grab the bitch. You know what I'm saying? You know what she like. You know what she like. You know, yeah, you know what time it is. Go get a new Joyce and shit. Pink horsepower.

Yeah, yeah. It's a pink joy, lifetime supply of Joyce. But then when Mike said, no the other day, I'm like, damn, Mike not even down with this shit? Is Mike a petty ass nigga?

I'm thinking Mike was in on this shit. Now I'm like, this bitch is lying, going on talk shows, and just being inconsiderate. I think that- She's traumatizing me. Right. To answer Stats' question- I'm traumatized for sure.

I'm traumatized watching it. Right. Look, the song in the future say, I done fucked your bitch with some Gucci flip flops. That's about her. Yeah. That ass, you go right. How are you a

son on a lab line and that come on? Yeah. I don't fuck a bitch in the Gucci flip-flops. Stop, dog. AKA Larissa Pippin. Secondly, look, you know what? Just give me back my last name and run around and do what you want to do. I'm tired of you running around with

the Pippin shit. Yeah, just give me back my last name and you can go be Larissa Williams or whoever the fuck you are before around with the pimpin' shit yeah just give me back my last name you could go be LaRissa Williams or whoever the fuck you are before you got the pimpin' like yo cause every time you hear the name pimpin' it ain't like it's Williams it ain't like it's Brown it ain't like it's it's pimpin' you know it's not a lot of last people with that name

please give me my last name and go fuck who you wanna fuck cause every time your name gets brought up my name gets brought up well she about to have the Jordan last name now. Yeah, and that's even better. That'll be crazy. Think about that. She about to have that.

She's now Larsa Pippin Jordan. No, no, she going to be whatever her middle name is. No, Larsa Pippin Jordan. Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy. Don't say that, dog. I think that she'll be like, now I'm the real number one option.

I don't need to be Pippin. That's crazy. Don't say that, though. I think that she'll be like, now I'm the real number one option. I don't need to be pippin'. Oh, stop. Y'all, I'm going with the number one option. Nah, she don't. Oh, man. No, but they say that. They say NBA wives are the worst. Yeah, I agree.

That's what I heard through the grapevine, through my sources. Listen, man, I can only go by what I see. But at the end of the day, I just feel bad because we was making fun of Scotty one day when he was up here. But it's like, yo, bro, this man ain't even retaliate, ain't saying nothing crazy, ain't not going on no rampage. He's not fazed by this. No, he's fazed.

I think he's fazed. He definitely is fazed. You think he's fazed? We're not going to do that. You know what it is? It's the same. What I'll say is this, because I didn't even hear I didn't even hear

about your shit story pause. Imagine what... Real talk, not even joking. I never heard, I didn't know that people was going around saying you shit with a wheelchair. I never heard it. I'm not being funny. This is worth everything I love. What I'm saying is this.

Scotty, you like chill with that story. Imagine what Scotty got to deal with every day. Whether it phase him or not, when you open your phone, niggas in your DMs with showing pictures, every fucking at is atting you. He not on social media like that, though. Yeah, but everybody in they phone. Yeah, but imagine what the kids are going through. Right.

Like the younger ones. They grown now, too. Yeah. Not all of them. Not all of them. But through, like the younger ones. They grown now, too. Yeah. Not all of them. Not all of them. But listen. All of them. But even if you grown, that's the age where they're in their phones.

Yeah, if you're in high school, you're in college. And then when you come around, everybody like, yo, let me shoot my shot. Scotty ain't famous. He understand what the game is. We all in the game. We all in the industry. When we have a girl or we marry her or she my girlfriend, we understand when it's over with.

We understand the game. You understand? What does that mean? Break that down for the people that don't know. When you break up with one and my girl, next thing she know, she didn't kill her. I got to charge her to the game or she didn't murder. Let me ask you a question. That's what it is.

Let me put it like this. Let me put it like this, right? That's crazy. Put it like this, and I wouldn't use KG because y'all are closer friends. Your ex-wife or your last girlfriend, whoever, starts dating Ray Allen. You ain't got a problem with it? I ain't got no problem with it. I hear that, nigga.

You tougher than level. You tougher than nails, nigga. I'm over here with it. Right. I got no problem with it. I hear that, nigga. You tougher than level. Yeah. You tougher than nails, nigga. I'm over here with it. Right. I'm over here with it. Okay, say no more. You real P, huh? I'm over here with it.

You pushing P for real. I'm over here with it. What am I going to let that, like I'm older now. I'm in a place in my life to where I'm not going to let that anger me. Maybe when I was young, in my 20s, but I'm older now. I'm over here now. I'm not even paying attention to you. Even if her name is Pierce?

I'm not even following you. Even if her name is Pierce? The only way I'm going to find that out is if I walk down the wind lobby and y'all bump into you. What Mase is saying, if she still had your last name, how would you feel about it? Yeah, I think that's what it is when you running around

with the name. I hear that. That don't phase me. That nigga pimping pee for real right now. That nigga cold-blooded. I swear on my life, that don't phase me.

I ain't mad at you. Frozen like Ida, baby. I'm so far in another place in my life that that don't happen. Listen, I seen Scotty at the baggage claim in the airport when one foot up on the shit with some black-haired ones. He's bothered.

That's what I think, my opinion. I think Scotty unbothered. You would know better than us. You would definitely know better than us. I think Scotty unbothered, dog. But, you know, it take a certain type of dude to be that way. And I think you have to be a certain point in your life. When you done been through so much in your life,

and think of us as us. Nah, I don't agree with that, Paul. I don't agree with that. Let me stop you before you go there. No, no, no, dog. Listen, we older now. He's unbothered, but when she get 50% of even his retirement. It's annoying. That's annoying. That's the part that probably annoying. That's annoying. He's not unbothered, but when she get 50% of even his retirement. It's annoying.

That's the part that probably annoying. She's not unbothered. It ain't like she's spending it on him. He got his own thing. But I think when you get to a certain age, we ain't got time for all that. Our time is limited. I'm going to live the last, these last 30, I'm going to live. I'm going to live.

That ain't phasing me. But if she got half of the money, you're going to live that 30 off. Where does that put everything? Man, she taking his retirement. You know what that is? That retirement that the NBA giving you, that's $5,000 a month. He ain't tripping off of that. Oh, yeah, we ain't tripping.

They ain't tripping off of that. They sound like something, but that ain't nothing. That ain't nothing. It's only $5,000 for a retirement? $5,000 a month. We ain't tripping off of that. He ain't tripping off of that. He getting other shit.

He got other little deals. What other little deals you got, Peele? That's crazy. What else Scotty got going on? I would like to know. Hold on, Murda. What the fuck, Scotty? What the fuck? I'm, Scotty? Stop trying.

Scotty. I'm feeling Scotty in a bit of a bad way. You don't know what the fuck, Scotty. He did this with me when I was just out. I'm running into Scotty

at the airport, the private airport joint getting off. What year are you talking about? I'm talking about like a year ago. And you met him where? I seen him getting off the jet.

I was getting off the jet right here. He right there living his best life. I'm going to keep it 100. It's them off the jet right here. He right there living his best life. I'm going to keep it 100. It's them little L.A. jet joints that be flying in from L.A. Niggas be telling them shit's just jets, jets. The dead leg?

Yeah, yeah. Don't cry. He was on the private jet. He was on that L.A. 49. This is the last chance to tell us what does Scottie Pippen have going on. Not saying he doesn't have anything. I'm trying to figure out what he has going on. I mean, you telling me that Scottie can't do an autograph?

You can't do it, can you? You telling me that Scottie can't do an autograph signing and get like $50,000? That's Scottie Pippen's sixth championship. He can go to China right now and make $100,000. All we ask you, Paul, is what does Scottie have going on? I'm not in his personal affairs, but I know that Scottie can make money in this era based on his name because people

know who Scottie Pippen is. He's still a name. There's a lot of cats that retired before Scottie or after Scottie that people don't know. Let me ask that age group right now. I would like to ask that a question. Who's more famous? Larissa Pippen or Scottie Pippen

at this particular moment for your age group? Right now, everybody's talking about Larissa Pippen. I ain't gonna lie. Thank you. But he did you exactly how he did me episode three, if you're a real one, with Giselle when I tried to say, she's still popping right now. He was like, she ain't doing it. Fame don't equal

money. She ain't doing it. I agree. she ain't doing it. Fame don't equal money. She ain't doing it. I agree. Fame don't equal money. But you're right. Fame don't equal money. Kilo, would you date Lasha? No, she could suck my dick. I wouldn't go out with her.

She could top me off. Definitely throw me some top. I'd go back and listen to Future drink Gucci flip flops. But you gotta go, you gotta take her to the movies or something. Nah, why would I do that? You gotta take her to dinner. For what?

I mean, for that to happen you gotta go somewhere. Future said he fucked her in his Gucci flip flops outside the studio. Future didn't say he took her to dinner. He didn't say he did none of this. You know what? See, y'all think I'm making this up. Go listen to the song Gucci flip-flops.

And he tell you how the whole shit went. The first verse. I ain't hear nothing. Y'all never pay attention to it. Paul, since you said it's all part of the game, would you if she crossed your path? I crossed her path before. You'd take her down?

No, no. Did you take her down? What kind of cross paths did y'all do? No, no, no. I ran into her. No, no. I thought you was ice cold.

I'm good on that. I don't believe you now. You sound like you cool with Scottie. I'm cool with Scottie. Yeah. I know Scottie. I didn't work with Scottie.

I didn't hang out with Scottie. No, I wouldn't do nothing. Gotcha. I was just certain bro stuff that I know I'm going I know Scotty. I didn't work with Scotty. I didn't hug out with Scotty. No, I wouldn't do nothing. Gotcha. I was just certain bro stuff that I know I'm going to run into Scotty. So if she hugged you and rubbed your leg, you're cool with Scotty? That's not going to happen. How do you know controlling her what's going to happen? How do you know that?

Because when I see her, I'm moving a certain way. Like, I'm Paul Pierce. You ain't going to get close to me. I'm going to give you the Desmond Howard. Okay, got you. So if she got close, you would. But what if she came

to the halftime show? I'm going to give her the Britney Spears. Gotcha. Too soon. That's right. Too soon. You got to come to the show, Paul.

We got a spot for you up here, man. Okay, so we got to talk about Michael Rubin's all-white party. We got a spot for you up here, man. Okay. So we got to talk about Michael Rubin's all-white party. Everyone was outside, including Tom Brady. And rumors, and I will emphasize rumors, are being said that Tom Brady and Kim Kardashian could be a thing. Do you believe it? And could you see it happening?

Tom Brady and Kim K and MK oh you're talking about Kim Kardashian yes that's not a good matchup yeah that's that's not a real good matchup like Tom Brady is not like a high profile dude who want to be on the shows and limelight so that was like that's bringing that's bringing too much attention to him he wouldn't do that i know that for a fact you know i don't know tom like that but just knowing him just just seeing how he moved and like his past relationships that's too that ain't him i would say this is that i think since his last wife left for's just been doing a lot of shit just out of pocket.

I don't think he would have been at that party still with his wife. When Tom first broke up with his girl, his DMs popped up on the shade room. Some DMing bitch talking about, I'll fly you out to Tampa. He's been in a relationship. Oh, I didn't see.

That's what Tom is on? Not to Kim K. When he first got out of his relationship, he was DMing girls, and they were screenshotting. Oh, word. Sent them to the shade room. And he was, you know, because you've been in a relationship so long,

you Tom Brady. You focus on your shit. He don't know how to date. He don't know. He don't know. Yeah, he don't know. So he in there talking about, you're beautiful, I want to fly you to Tim, but she's sending shit to the shade room.

So it's just. She's got two bands for that. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Instead of keeping it cool, it might potentially be. So when it comes to the Kim Kardashian situation, I want to agree with what Paul is saying, but I just think Tom is in almost a sunken place for football players. Like, yo, he don't know how to date.

You've been with the same woman the last however many years, and now this whole new social media dating is going on. Nobody's giving you advice like, don't DM that bitch. You're bugging. You know what I'm saying? She is not the one. Right. That ain't the rebound, no.

Yeah. I wouldn't recommend it at all. No. I wouldn't recommend it. I know I gave Kim Kardashian a hard time up here, too, but so what? She was crying saying she wanted Kanye back. I don't know. Whatever it is, I don't think Tom Brady.

Tom Brady does not need to be with Kim K. And I just think, look, Tom's about to be a football analyst. Fucking Tom Brady, probably the best quarterback arguably ever. He did a porno with Ray J. What are we doing here? You know, what the fuck? What the fuck are we talking about here, bro?

You know what I'm saying? His brand, crossing with that brand, like, just knowing how he is. I mean, I don't know if it'll be all bad, but it just don't seem like a good mix

based on who he is and his personality. I feel like them personalities. We all agree that that should not be a good match, but let's get back to Michael Rubin party. What the fuck was going on in that shit, man? I seen niggas with they ass cheeks out. What kind of party is that? I think you spoke that up about the split roast.

Whatever it is. Nah, they had a little baby and a little hug and all that. I seen the video. That was even crazier. All the pictures come out. They had him in a vanilla Oreo. Yeah, the reverse Oreo. And then the next

picture is a nigga who got they ass. He paused this whole shit like what kind of party was that? I wouldn't want to be in that party. Let me ask you something. For real, for real. All jokes aside. Are rappers supposed to be at those kind of parties? Like the nigga just said, we in some strange ass times.

My nigga shit is crazy out here. I looked at this party, and this party been going on for a little bit, right? Like how many years or something? No, but first answer my question. What? Are rapper street rappers supposed to be at that kind of party? I don't know who's supposed to be at that party, but it looked like everybody who was at that party was a who's who.

But like, and Michael Rubin is putting this on. Like, why can't nobody from the culture do this? Right, exactly. Like, why we can't say, like, why can't Diddy do this or Rick Ross or somebody? They used to have these parties, the all-white parties. No, but this is a certain time of the year. This is like- In the Hamptons in the summertime.

You're right, you're right. It's part of the, what is it, maybe like 4th of July or Juneteenth or something. Yeah. Like, I feel like that's something that we should be doing. Yeah. Like, I love Michael Rubin. Nah, Paul, I love Michael Rubin. Nah, Paul, I don't want to do them kind of parties with you.

No, but just bring all of us together in one spot and network and rub elbows and give each other our flowers and be in one spot at one time. We got the money to do that all together. Like, we could go to Rick Ross' house during this time. Diddy can have his house up. That's something we can do. Basically, you trying to say he's Skip Bayless

of this shit. You grabbing all the niggas. I mean, that's what I say. So Michael Rubin and Skip Bayless are bad hands. I like Mike Rubin, too. Yeah, man. I just feel like he got Little Baby

and Meek Mills rolling with him all around the country in the private jets. What does Michael Rubin do? He's the owner of Fanatics. And he's the owner of the Sixers. Okay. Oh, that's okay. Gotcha. Michael Rubin, Rick Rubin, Rubin's Cube.

I'm never going to that shit nigga's ass cheeks out, nigga. Ever. What would you have done if nigga hugged you like that? I didn't see the hug. It was, what you mean? Yo, pull these shits up. Pull the whole pictures up. What you mean?

Show them all the pictures. He about to show you everything we talking about. What you talking about? He gonna pull up all the pictures. The hug. You gonna have a whole new mouth. Yo, he gave him the jelly fam hug. Okay.

What you mean? Who? Michael Rubin is hugging Lil Baby from the back and Kyle Kuzma's in front and they got him smushed in. Hold on, man. Let me see. He couldn't move. Yeah, man.

He couldn't breathe. Yeah. There's another picture. These is drunk hugs. So you approve of these? These ain't that bad. Who is that? Wait, hold on.

Let me blow this up. What's going on? No, to me. Who is that? All of it was cool. What the Daisy Dukes on? This is what I'm trying to tell you, bro. You approve of this party?

He's asking for us to throw that kind of party. No, but I'm not. I mean, I can't tell. I can't tell no. No, no, I can't tell. Stop, dog. Boy, I ain't the boy. I'm tired of y'all.

Y'all are crazy, bro. Everybody listening, we just had fun. I'm about to go shoot some dice, man. No, Paul. Paul, real talk, real talk. I think the craziest picture was the Joel Embiid picture. That was the craziest one. Be honest.

Did you see that one? Which one? The Joel Embiid one. Not sure. That was the craziest one. Be honest. Did you see that one? Which one? Joe Allen B one. Not sure. I might have seen that. You got to pull that up. If Killers see this, I want to see what his response is. Bubba, pull it up.

Pull up the Joe Allen B shit. Nah, what you mean? It's on the level of the Daisy Dukes. No, it ain't, dog. What are you doing, man? You lying. Pull it up. Nah, we ain't, dog. Come on, man. You lying. Pull it out. No, we ain't seeing that.

No, ain't no picture. Yeah. That picture ain't out there. As we know, a lot happened at Michael Rubin's party. No, no, no. We need to pull that picture out. It ain't. I don't see it because I see Jolin beating the picture.

There wasn't one. No, dog. Come on. Let me see this again. What are you doing, bud? I mean. Oh, no. That just looked like a drunk picture.

You know how you with your boy. He's like, hey, my boy. I love you. I love you, my boy. Hold on. That's his life. Oh, no. He's like, I love you.

No, that's crazy. Let me see. Nah, that's just like, oh, they don't need to know it's like I love you. Nah, that's crazy. Let me see. Nah, that's crazy. It ain't that bad. Oh, nah, nah. This is Romeo and Juliet. It ain't that bad, though. Hey, murder's trying to start something right there.

Nah, that's crazy. Nah, he's like, this is for any man. This is that 200 million I'm giving you. He's definitely for life. I need to talk to you. That ain't bad, dog. He needs you.

That's a reach. Okay, well, as we know, a lot did happen. I see that y'all wouldn't want to be at that party, but Paul did make a good point.

Maybe there should be a Celebrity Juneteenth party. We'll see what happens. Paul wouldn't want to be at that party, but Paul did make a good point. Maybe there should be a Celebrity Juneteenth party. We'll see what happens. Paul want to throw that party. Man, listen, next year we need to throw a Juneteenth party. That's better. Let me tell you one thing, not to cut you off. We know what bitches Paul coming with.

Paul coming with them hoes. We ain't got to worry about none of that shit. That's one thing we ain't got to worry about. It's none of that shit going on at a Paul Pierce party, nigga. Massages, titties, thighs, cellulite. That's cellulite.

And the girlfriend app. Yeah. Date for the night app, bitch. Yo. Yo, stop. Yo, stop. Yo, stop, man. maybe somebody else will host it but we'll be right back excuse me after last night performance we're gonna do this again not tonight i don't think so Excuse me? After last night's performance? We gonna do this again? Yeah!

Not tonight. I don't think so. And make sure you close the door behind you. I'm Rico fucking strong I'm back I'm back Oh my god Oh my god I'm back! Oh my God! Oh my God! Oh my God! What the hell, man?

Boy, get up. Drink this. Drink it. Right now? Drink it, drink it, girl. Okay. Drink it. right now right now right now yeah welcome back shakur stevenson and devin haney were beefing on twitter shakur told Welcome back. Shakur Stevenson and Devin Haney were beefing on Twitter. Shakur told Devin Haney, send a real offer. Let's get active champ. Devin said, sign the contract. Shakur said, you so soft for that. What are your thoughts?

I think because of Devin Haney's last performance against Lomacheco, that a lot of people feel Lomacheco won that fight. I think Shakur Stevenson, after seeing that fight, think he's fooled. He's like, oh, if that's all you got, I'm going to kill you. And it's been going back and forth ever since the Lomacheco fight. If I had to pick somebody to win, I'm going to go with Shakur. But I've seen them.

After that, I actually see some old footage of them sparring, and they both was giving each other some good work pause at that sparring. Thank God you said it. Thank God. Thank God. He's really into it now. Yeah. I think that sparring match was good, but that was years ago.

I think right now, the way that Shakur Stevenson is trolling Devin Haney in real life, he went to a party he was at and sent them bottles with signing the contract with the bottle lady. And then Shakur, Devin sent him a contract.

He wouldn't sign it. Right. But he was saying that, I think it was a 25-75 split, and he was saying that it wasn't 50-50, and he was saying that you're going to make more money total

than you made in your last three fights with that offer. That's why Shakur Stevenson was like, yeah, whatever, nigga. I'm not signing that. But David Haney feels that he's the A-side. So that's just my opinion. I agree. I mean, if I got all the belts, I ain't giving you no leverage to get more money. Right.

You know what I'm saying? So, look, you sign a contract, this is going to boost your career. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? If you beat me, then the money go up for you after that. But I got all the belts. I'm the one that you got to beat. Yeah, that's what Floyd did with De La Hoya.

Yeah, come on. You got to come. Yeah, that's what Floyd did with De La Hoya. Yeah, come on. You got to come. Below his purse. You got to come over here and put the hands up versus the champ. I'm the guy. Right. I'm up here, dog. You over here.

You ain't had no major fights. You want to get these belts? 75-25. Here or here. Take that or leave it. Or I'm going over here. Gotcha. So if I'm Shakur, take the fight.

If you feel like you better, because if you win and you get them belts, now your price go all the way up. Yeah. So that's how you got to look at it. You got to like, all right, I'm going to eat later. I'm going to take a crumb of the money right now. But after this, my price up now. Now I got the leverage because I got the belt. So if you think you better and you think you're going to win, my price up now. Now I got the leverage

because I got the belt. So if you think you better and you think you're going to win, do it. Gotcha. Yeah. And the news just came in that Devin Haney

just got arrested. So that fight is not going to happen. What happened? Okay, I'll add that. So Devin Haney was recently charged for carrying a concealed weapon

in Los Angeles. He was released on $35,000 bail and is scheduled to appear in court on August 3rd. You know what I'm tired of? This generation of athletes feeling like they gotta be gangsters. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like, we see it with Ja Morant and now Devin Haney with the gun charge. Like, it's too much money out here. Mikey Williams. Mikey Williams. Like, I don't know if the rap videos is a big influence on the culture, that they got to look a certain way so people don't step to them or what.

But that ain't it. When you get to a certain level and you make a certain amount of money, you need to have people around you to say, you don't even got to do that. Stop trying to give off this persona because you're not gangster. You're not gangster because before you became at this level to a fame, you weren't on that. You weren't on that. You know what I'm saying? Think about it as everybody that you just named.

And we like you talk, because we talked about this on several shows. Yeah. Several shows that we had. The thing about it is I'm more disappointed in the parents. You're growing up with your kids. I can't speak for the Haney situation, because I have to do some more due diligence and homework on that. But you're around your kids, and you see it isn't like this just randomly happened.

You see them getting ready to go down the wrong path and then you don't say nothing. What I do commend, like we said on a few other episodes, if Melo act crazy, you think LeVar Ball ain't coming over and say you need to cut this bullshit out. Or any of his sons. Like certain fathers, even whether it's Ja, Mike Williams,

or I don't know, I think that Haney's father, Bill Haney, is really cool too. Bill Haney is real cool. But you have to step in and say, yo, you are fucking bugging. You're there the whole time that he's scoring 50 points or when he's knocking niggas out or when he's about to get his scholarship to go to college. But when he does something wrong, y'all all disappear. We haven't seen none of these fathers speak up and say,

no, I'm going to get him under control. I'm going to make sure that that don't happen again. That's real. But when he's about to pop off and get everything done, yeah, he at 50. When shit goes south,

you disappear. All y'all fathers need to get involved when shit go left and say, you know what, I'm going to grab my little nigga and make sure this shit don't happen again. They can take the heat.

You know what? They got a voice now because of social media. They can step in front of the camera. You know what, y'm going to grab my little nigga and make sure this shit don't happen again. They can take the heat. You know what? They got a voice now because of social media. They can step in front of the camera. You know what, y'all? That's on me. Right. Like Johnny should have said that. My dad can say, you know what, y'all?

He can step on any platform. You know what? I'm going to take the heat for that. Right. That's on me. I got this now. And then all the pressure off. Now everybody looking at him.

Right. And everybody going to talk about him as a father. Right. So what? We ain't talking about him. We ain't talking about John no more. We ain't talking about John no more. But why do you think they're not doing that?

They don't know how to do it. They not used to because they sons is the breadwinner and taking care of them. So they looking up to them now. It gets to the point where you look up. The Gary Coleman syndrome we call it. So now your daddy is looking up to you. Right. You know, because when I became a breadwinner,

now the people who older than you looking up to me, because I'm like, I turned into the godfather or something. Right. And so it's like, well, shoot, I don't want them to cut me off. I think a lot of that has to do with that. Because, like, say you question him and he doing this and that, and he cut his daddy off. Because there's a lot of guys in the NBA that cut their mama off,

that cut their daddy off, that question them. God bless the day Kobe stopped speaking to his parents. Absolutely. You know that story. Everybody know that story. They cut them off because they question what they did. Their judgments. Right.

And so I think that has a lot to do with it. And that's something that's not talked about enough. That's sad. Right. That's really sad. That's a good point. Okay. That's really sad.

Errol Spence is set to fight Terrence Crawford on July 29th here in Las Vegas. Yeah. So as we get closer, who do you got? I'm going to keep it 100. I'm not choosing anybody because I see... Killer, don't do that. Don't do that.

Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't be biased. I'm telling you what's going on. All right. It's them niggas. Whoever you pick, niggas like, bet. Like they got a problem with you.

Crawford is like, you pick Errol Spence. I'm like, stay no more, my nigga. You pick Crawford, nigga. Errol Spence is like, stay over there. God damn, I just can't even pick a nigga. You can't. Like them two niggas I've been watching on Twitter, Instagram, whoever one person pick, they got beef with the whole followers, everybody

else. Like this shit is really personal to me. Put it like this. Yeah. I'll tell you right now, Paul, whoever you pick after- I know who I'm picking. No, listen. No, but whoever you pick is going to go crazy.

The other person is going to be like, stay the fuck over there tomorrow and then and then. And I know you probably don't give a fuck. Yeah, they know me. They know P. Oh, that's just RIP. Don't give a damn. Yeah. the fuck over there tomorrow and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then

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and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then And it may be a video that I haven't seen a Crawford doing this. Everybody watching right now, go type in Errol Spence street fight. Errol Spence is outside, this may be three, four years ago, with somebody about 290 pounds, and they just going rib shot for rib shot. No gloves at a barbecue.

And I said, what kind of crazy nigga is this? Just hitting the nigga outside with ribs. And they like whoever quit first. And I'm like, this nigga break his hand, hit his hand on nigga elbow. I said, this nigga's crazy. It's ghost typing Errol Spence street fight and he's just outside

hitting the nigga ribs, paws. And I'm not saying Terrence Crawford ain't doing that. I just ain't see it. I think they both great fighters but if I had to make a, and I'm not saying Terrence Crawford ain't doing that. I just ain't see it. I think they both great fighters, but if I had to make a decision, I'm going purely off that decision. I heard Crawford's stories too. So you're saying Errol Spence? I'm going with Spence.

Oh, you made a decision? Because we have to make a decision. Clarify that first. The reason I made the decision is because I just said the video that I seen. Okay. If that's, I'm only going with Errol Smith because of that video. Who are you? A nigga might DM me, pause a video, like, oh yeah, you want to see a video?

And send me Terrence Crawford knocking the nigga out in the club. And I'd be like, oh, wait a minute. I've never seen this video. So that's the reason I'm going with Aerosmith, just off that one video. Who you got, Paul? I'm going with T-Bug Crawford. I've been following him longer.

And people got to understand, this ain't no disrespect. You ask me to make a choice. I've been following T-Bug Crawford longer. I didn't have, I didn't been in the same room with him to where we talked and bonded and Wow. Talked and bonded.

Like you can't talk and bond. He reaching. He said he's been in the same room and bonded. Where we talked and bonded. You know and I've been following his career a lot longer. So I'm going with him because I like

his skill set. I like what he brings to the table as far as his hands. Listen, one thing about Thomas Crawford to add on to what you're saying, that nigga can switch the southpaw in the middle of a round. He fights traditional and then he'll switch up.

This is what I'm really going off of. There's only one question in that fight, and that's can Terrence Crawford take the power pause of Alistair Smith? All right, listen, sir. So the reason I'm Bud Crawford, not only because I know him, but I watched him fight, who was the last little dude with the braids he fought? Sean Porter. So I looked at

both of them fought Sean Porter, right? Man, he made... Sean Porter could have arguably beat Spence. Did y'all remember that fight? Yeah, if he didn't get knocked down. But Sean Porter got whooped by T-Bud Crawford. He quit. get knocked down. But Sean Porter got whooped by T-Bud Crawford.

He quit. He retired him. His father threw him in the towel. I was there. He could have got it. His father. I went to that fight, actually. But he was beating him up.

Right. That fight was close. No, that fight wasn't close. Go ahead. We go to school. Go to school. Listen, I'm a fan. I'm just telling you.

But I'll say about this, right? What you're saying right, comparing the fight. I'm going off. I'm just telling you. But I'll say about this, right? What you're saying, right? Comparing the fight. I'm going off they're two toughest fights. Right. But see, Floyd used to say that all the time. Floyd fight Ricky Hatton, and then Pacquiao come beat him in two rounds. And Floyd like, yeah, he damn is good.

I done did what I had to do with him. Now you done fucked him up because I showed you the blueprint to fuck him up. And that could be the same argument that you're talking about now. Yeah, but Floyd didn't fight Pacquiao at his peak either. Not saying that Pacquiao would have beat him. No, no, what I'm saying is this. I know that Floyd used to do that because he, Floyd would have beat him, then Pacquiao would beat him.

And he would say, I gave you the blueprint. Exactly. I know what you're saying. Yeah, got you. But I agree with that fight too. I think they missed their prime on that fight, but who's your pick, Murda? I'm going with I agree with that fight too. I think they missed their prime on that fight. Who's your pick, Murda? I'm going with Bud. What you got, Stat?

She don't even know. I don't. I really don't. Whoever wins, wins. Make the best win. I'm going to choose Terrence Crawford. I got Bud by stoppage. I really don't have an answer. Stoppage.

I got Bud by stoppage. It's fine. have an answer. Stoppage? I got Bud by Stoppage. It's fine. Ooh, in what round? I think 11th. Round 10. Ooh, I think so, too. I think so, too. I think I had Mikey and Danny Garcia crying, bro.

You know what? It's going to be... You know what I usually judge it off of? What song they come out to. That's big. That's big. That's big. When I saw Ryan Garcia, when he came out to his song,

I was like, Ryan Garcia about to get rocked. He came out to some slow song, if y'all don't remember that. I don't remember what song he came out to. He came out to some bullshit. Bud can't start slow if he's going to win the fight, though. He takes too long to some bullshit. Yeah, Bud can start slow if he going to win the fight, though.

He takes too long to get going. This is going to be fun. Right. And I'm going to be there for it. Right. Take too long to go. I don't know what I'm saying. Take too long to what?

To get going. Bud takes too long to get going as well. That's wild. That's wild. Look at Paul. That's wild. He's Paul. That's wild. He's hit. He's hit.

How you doing? He takes too long to get going. Paul takes too long to get going. Shout out to the A's. How you doing, Murph? Takes too long to get going. No, I said he can't take too long. Pause.

He said he takes too long to get going. That's what he he can't take too long. Pause. He said he'd take too long to get going. That's what he said. He ain't trying to clean it up. I'm helping you out. I'm helping you out. Because you was Hall of Fame tonight, so. Y'all crazy. True.

Okay, well, that's all we have for today's episode. Again, Paul, thank you for joining us today. Thank you, Paul. We appreciate y'all, man. Thank you, man. And any closing remarks from you man and any closing remarks from you thank y'all

I love what y'all doing it is what it is man I need to be back here yo check it out I need to be on the boat and I need to be on the halftime

so keep me in mind for that listen man there's a few things before we wrap up we gonna get this Juneteenth party popping up we're gonna figure out

what's the first day of Monday night football coming up. And we're going to do the Paul Pierce halftime show. Will Paul Pierce actually hear? Look, they think, bring it here. You're going to give us a discount, nigga? I'm just messing with you. But let's see what we can do when basketball season comes back around. Absolutely. We can get Paul

back around man but thank you so much Paul we really appreciate you and we're big fans basketball and what you and KG are doing on Showtime

and with your podcast everything one last thing that from fan request how did you not know you was on live on a live I didn't say I didn't

know I was on live he knew he was on live he was on Okay, so well he wanted to know I'm trying to do this Yes, sir a matter of episodes that you thinking about me. My God. I love y'all. I love you. Thank you. That's what's up. Thank you guys, man.

Again, thank you so much for being here and shout out to the Aces as always. It is what it is. Crazy. Crazy. Y'all crazy, dog. Everything nigga Super size Like when they doing them Two for five you you you you you you you you you you you