IT IS WHAT IT IS - JACK HARLOW ON INDUSTRY DATING, RAP, KENTUCKY AND WHAT HE LOOKS FOR IN A WOMAN | IIWII EP#47

Episode Date: November 17, 2023

Cam'ron, Ma$e & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one only this time being joined by Jack Harlow! ***NEW MERCH** Shop the Come And Talk 2 Me Store....https://comeandtalk2me.com  Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $100 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson.

Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Florida, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. It will also match your first deposit up to $100 and you get a special pick when you sign up. Of course, I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along

with your hosts Cam and Mace. Hold on, hold on, get it right. It's Mace and Cam. Mace and Cam. Let's make sure we're clear on that. It's Mace and Cam. Oh, it's clear. Very, very clear. Don't mess that up again.

I won't. All right. What's happening, man? He must be feeling it. He got his jewelry on. My jewelry's always here whether I wear it or not. It's always available.

It's our last day of the week, so I didn't think we had to dress up. I see a lot of denim, though. I see the denim. I tried to interject what's going on. It's a whole lot of denim though. I see the denim. I tried to just interject what's going on. It's a whole lot of denim, man.

Making denim doubt. I'm thinking it'd be weird denim. Word. Okay. Well, today we are joined by a very special guest. He's a rapper, singer, and actor from Kentucky. He was voted the top new artist at the 2021 Billboard Music Awards. That same year, he was also Variety's Hitmaker of the Year and was in Forbes 30 Under 30, known for hit songs such as First Class, What's Poppin', and many more.

Introducing Jack Harlow. Jack, what's up, man? What's good? Thanks for letting me be here. What's good, Jack? I appreciate y'all letting me come, man. Oh, man, cut it out, man. First of all, congratulations on everything you're doing. You know, we've been watching since the beginning, and your growth has been exceptional, man. For real, poor us. Thank you, man. First of all, congratulations on everything you're doing. You know, we've been watching since the beginning

and your growth has been exceptional, man. For real, poor us. And not only that, listen, you part of the family. Drum and Lake is like our family too, man. Being part of them. Drum just keeps fucking...

His fucking eye for talent is very underrated, man. He has a great eye for talent, man. Shout out Drum and Lake as well. Yeah, he's got it, man. Yeah. He's got it. No, that's part of the reason I felt comfortable coming up here.

Yeah. As you know. Yeah, they said you don't do a lot of interviews. You don't. Well, I've just been watching y'all for a while now. And Jesus Christ, I just had to get up here. I had to come fuck with y'all man I appreciate it

so what's going on when's your next project going on what you got going on tell us some things that you got going on it's kind of undetermined I'm just kind of

in a space where I'm just recording and you know fucking around making singles and when it's project time we'll know so I'm just cooking up right now i just

dropped a song called loving on me and uh motherfuckers seem to be resonating with it so i'm just we're just gonna take it as it comes i feel like we're in a space now where like you can kind of just look at the playing field and make decisions in an instant you don't got to plan ahead six months a year ahead of time. They are 100% right. You watch the show? You watch the show? Oh, fuck yeah. Yeah, so take it out. How it comes is a wild pause.

We'll just start with that. My fault, yo. Your fault. It's okay. Don't apologize. You'll probably fuck up again. So it's okay. All of us do every day.

I knew. I knew. I just have been wanting to come up here, bro, for real. You won't stop. Keep going. Keep that. No, no. no, no, no, no. As soon as I walked in here, Cam showed me so much love when I came,

like for real. So I really appreciate it, yeah. Yo, listen, man, I had to go get cleaned up real quick, but we appreciate you, bro. Nah, for real. So who's your favorite teams? We hear you love sports. Who's some of your favorite teams? We hear you love sports.

Who's some of your favorite teams? I fuck with the Celtics. Okay. I always fuck with the Celtics. I mean, you know. Come on. Obviously. Obviously.

I'm sure that's not a shocker. Jack, you turned red when you said that. Did I really? Yeah, you turned red when you said that. Did I really? Yeah, you turned red when you said that. I like that answer, obviously. Why wouldn't I fuck with the Celtics? Nah, did I really turn red? Yeah.

I wish I could see you turn red, bro. Not Trump red, but since you got jokes. I like the Celtics. I feel like I don't talk about soccer enough up here, bro. You want to be our soccer analyst? I mean, I'd be open to it. Okay, we could discuss it. We're actually in the process of getting,

we're interviewing people for all sports right now. So hockey, wrestling, also gaming, soccer. If you're a big soccer fan, we can give you an interview. And if you want to come up here and be the soccer analyst, you're more than welcome. Gaming. That's crazy. Yeah, gaming as well.

We're about to get into gaming as well. Gaming. All right. What about football? I fuck with football. I grew up a Steelers fan. Okay. Why the Steelers?

You're consistent. He's consistent. Yeah. What do you mean? You know. Honestly. Honestly. Honestly. Honestly. You know Obviously Obviously Obviously

Jack What do you mean though Jack I didn't Jack I didn't Know this about you Yo Jack got swag man

Yeah He got the swag man I like I like championship teams Um Big Big Louisville Cardinals fan, obviously. Okay.

Not Kentucky Cardinals all day. But yeah, that's kind of my speed. How you feel about Rick Pitino? Fucking love him. Fucking love Rick? I fucking love Rick, man. Do you know what happened with him? Obviously, you know the story.

It's a damn shame. Which one are you talking about? Several stories on Rick Pitino. Which one are you talking about? I just mean Rick Martino. Which one are you talking about? I just mean like the whole, you know, cluster of stories. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's a shame it had to come to an end.

It was kind of a golden age for us. And then they tried to put an asterisk next to our 2013 title, which was like, you know, a core memory for me. I was a freshman in high school when we beat Michigan in the title. So they tried to take it away. But in Louisville, it's very legitimate. Okay. How do you feel about him when he coached Kentucky?

Before my time. Okay. Don't give a fuck. So the Celtics that you like are the new Celtics. You don't care about the old Celtics. No, he liked the old Celtics. But that's before his time. So when he said before his time, I'm trying to figure out which Celtics.

I'm not a Rick Pitino Celtics guy, but I'm Paul Pierce. I'll tell you why I'm a Celtics fan. Kevin Garnett went over there, and I said, I'm a Celtics I'm not a Rick Pitino Celtics guy but I'm Paul Pierce I'll tell you why I'm a Celtics fan Kevin Garnett went over there and I said I'm a Celtics fan gotcha so this don't have

shit to do with Larry Bird and Kevin McKeown well you know come on that's what I'm saying at the end of the day I'm gonna hold down

you know I'm gonna ride hard any guy that played for the Celtics okay gotcha say no more. Jason Tatum.

I mean, I fuck with him. Eddie House. Come on. Eddie House. That's a true Celtics fan. I knew that would make you believe me. Eddie House is a legitimate Celtics fan. That was crazy.

Let's talk about some sports, man. Let's get into the sports topics. This is the topic everybody has been waiting for y'all to talk about. On Tuesday, the Timberwolves took the dove everybody has been waiting for y'all to talk about. On Tuesday, the Timberwolves took the dove versus the Warriors winning 104 to 101. There is a fight early on between Jada McDaniels

and Klay Thompson. And during that, Draymond comes out the cut and chokes out Rudy Gobert. I can't wait to hear y'all discuss this. So, what are you guys'

initial thoughts on the fight before we even get into the rest of what happened? You, Jack, first. I didn't like seeing that happen to Rudy. I didn't like seeing how his face was like that and how he felt during that. But I do fucking love Draymond.

I can't lie. So I'm a little conflicted. Thought it was a beautiful moment for the league. Why was it beautiful? Because it's like we need that here and there, right? I don't know. A little animosity. You said what?

It was a little animosity. At first, it looked like he was playing until it looked like he was going to sleep. Do you feel as if... It looked like he was about to go to sleep. Do you feel like Draymond couldn't wait to do that to Rudy? For starting COVID, they said? He said for starting COVID.

He said, I seen that meme. Look, my take on the whole shit is this. Look, Draymond, I said this shit about Draymond last year when he, not last year, the year before, when they won the championship. Draymond's going to do whatever they got to do for him to win. And I think, to me, my personal opinion, he's around mad light-skinned niggas, and he got to be the dark-skinned nigga sometimes.

Same shit I said. Yeah. Sometimes you got to be that. No, I didn't say that exactly. Yeah, but you got to be that dark. Sometimes you got to show niggas, besides show niggas, obviously, I'm the dark-skinned nigga.

Like, yo. So sometimes, to me me I be feeling like he's thinking he's protecting him did it need a choke out for 17 seconds I don't know but

I agree with with Jack 100% sometimes you gotta this shit too soft sometimes sometimes this shit you step over

a nigga after you dunk on them ports then you gotta get a fucking technical fine all type of shit my nigga like yo sometimes mush a nigga to get a fucking technical, fine, all type of shit, my nigga. Like, yo, sometime

mush a nigga. Sometime get a nigga off you. Now, the league used to be wild cowboy. Me and Mase was actually talking about this on Stephen A's show earlier today, which actually comes out next Wednesday on Stephen A. Smith's podcast.

And we was definitely like Mase said that when he started to go to sleep, it got too far. It went a little bit too far. For me, he choked him for 17 seconds. Did he go to sleep?

Nah, he didn't go to sleep. He's about to. That's what Mace said. He choked him for 17 seconds. I think nine seconds would have been cool. Yeah. What do you think

about the suspension, though? He got five games. Do you think that that was cool or should have been more? Honestly, I think he should have got more games suspended because what could have really transpired through that, especially he ran from all

the way over there. So he wasn't initially in the fight. So he was inciting more of a ride. It could have been a ride in that case. What do you think about the game five game suspension? Appropriate. It's appropriate? I'm actually

surprised to hear that you wish he had more games. Why? This is very grown up of you. I don't know. That's bizarre. Oh, Jack. Jack, I was taking it light, Jack. I'm normally more fiery than this. That's why I said I'm surprised.

Yeah, so I'm thinking like this. Like, in your case, you know how Draymond had to do something dark-skinned? Do you ever feel like you got to do something dark-skinned? That's a great question. I'll say this. Oh, you you know Drake said Drake said I'm light But I'm still a dark nigga

Yeah Is that how you feel sometimes? Not verbatim but Okay I Can't go verbatim Nah but um There was something in that

That connected with me Yeah You have dark Vader moments, right? You know, you look Skywalker. I just know they're necessary. Yeah. As y'all know. Yeah.

Y'all know best. Yeah. Lessons not learned in blood is quickly forgotten. I will drink to that. That's my favorite. Listen, I'm going to chime in on that. I agree with Mace. I thought five games was kind of light.

I would say seven to ten games, but I'm not beefing because Draymond is my guy, and that's my nigga, so I'm not... He didn't punch him, though. Like, damn. I think that, I think choking out may be worse than punching. If you know how to choke a nigga, pause the right way. You can put a nigga to sleep in about five seconds if you do it right.

But that's another story for another day. Yeah, that's why I thought he was playing because after a few seconds, he's not asleep. I'm like, oh, he playing. No, this nigga's serious. I choked the nigga. I choked the... Sure, I can't hear.

I choked the nigga out about eight seconds. He put him to sleep right on Lennox. On the avenue, put that to sleep. So... You let him fall or you laid him... I laid him down. I didn't want to bust his head on the carpet. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, I laid him down. But you can actually put somebody to sleep that quick. But Draymond didn't actually have that. You know who the biggest take away from this whole scenario? Not Klay. Yo. If you want to play, Jack, you won't get a word in. You've been saying pause the whole time.

I let you slide about 19 pauses. If you want to play, let's play. You've been saying pause the whole time. I let you slide about 19 pauses. If you want to play, let's play. You actually have it. I'll go to the videotape. It's really been bad. If you want to play, thank you, Jack, as a pause. I get petty

about everything. Nobody will be able to talk. I'll let you slide about eight or nine times. Yes or no let you slide about eight or nine times? Of course, yes or no? Like 12. That's about 12 or 13 times. But if you want to start

to get on Mr. Miyagi, of course. If you want to go Danielson and I go Mr. Miyagi, it's not a problem. And he's not your friend. So, but seriously, my biggest...

You're too good, bro. Nah, nah, see? Exactly. Nah, nah, nah. It won't go up. So, nah, but seriously, my biggest pause out the whole shit is Carl Anthony Towns. Like, Carl Anthony Towns sat there and watched that shit. Like, yo, Carl Anthony Towns was like, stop, stop, bro.

This nigga's choking, pouring your man out. Like, Carl Anthony Towns, where the fuck, what was that? But not everybody's the same, bro. This nigga's choking, pulling your man out. Like, Carl Anthony tells, where the fuck, what was that? But not everybody's the same, bro. Yeah, I dig it, but. And how Rudy, how Rudy let a nigga

choke him out that's like eight. What's your name, Holy? Urban? Eight inches. Like Urban America. Okay, Urban, somebody's choking Jack out.

Are you going to do a Carl Anthony tension? Okay, cool. But I'm telling out. Are you going to do a call to detention? Okay, cool. But I'm telling you, we were just talking about this. Carl and Rudy don't have what me and Urban have. Yeah, but at the end of the day, y'all have the same goal to try and win a championship. Right, but that has...

Where was Ant-Man in all of this? Niggas don't want no problem with Draymond. That's how I took it. I took it as, yo, leave Draymond alone. That's how they took it. Draymond's like a wild, you know, at this age, and we're older than Draymond, of course, but I'm talking about as far as the league is concerned.

Draymond's like that wild uncle at the barbecue. Like, yo, you don't know what to say to this nigga. He might go over the edge at any given point, and I think that's how younger players look at him because he was beefing with Ant-Man throughout the game too. Yeah. And nigga just was like, alright, bet I'm gonna bust your ass. His legacy's solidified. I told his dream on him.

I told his dream on him. He's big. He's big. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. To yourself. He's big as crazy. He's big. He's huge though. I mean, come on. You won't stop, will you?

D66. He's a skilled player for his position because, you know, they said he was undersized for us when he's coming in the league. For a power forward, that is kind of small. He slides some shits in. Yeah, listen, I was last year's rock, but you wanted to be petty. Nah, nah, nah. I was some real shit in my four. listen, I was like, it's rock, but you want to be petty? Nah, nah, nah. I want some real shit

in my foot. Nah, you good, man. Okay. So, last thing about the whole fight. After Gobert said, every time Steph doesn't play, he doesn't want to play

without Steph. So, he does anything he can to get ejected. Do you guys agree with that statement? I don't know about that. What a response after being choked out. What? I like the Frenchman.

So you got? Right. Everybody's been dogpiling, bro. I fuck with Rudy. He slept. You know what I mean? Taking Rudy's side Yes Got it Mace how do you feel?

He says slap nap What's the next word? I don't fuck with Rudy like that Pause That's why I took up Cause I can I can feel it in the air My thing

But um She won't stop But listen I think he's He's too so forced to be that tall. Jack is trolling us. Yeah, he's got to be trolling. I'm not getting into it.

I was reaching. I just think he's too soft for us for his position. Like, in Utah, yo, listen, him and Donovan Mitchell was super good together. They had to break that shit up. And I think they really had a chance, but he's been good on defense. But I just think the B7-1 and not as,

you know, he's just not tough enough for a nigga 7-1 for me. Moving along to Ben Simmons. He will be sidelined indefinitely due to a nerve impingement in his back. So how do you feel about him being out? As long as he ain't got the back injury Dwight had, so I think he should be straight.

You know how I feel about Ben Simmons. What do you have to say about, how do you feel about Ben Simmons, Jack? I'm indifferent and y'all are too. So we can run the next one if y'all want. No, I'm going to say about, how do you feel about Ben Simmons, Jack? I'm indifferent and y'all are too, so we can run the next one if y'all want. No, I'm going to say, I just wanted to see

if you had something to say. Look, the thing about Ben Simmons, when you get a chance, we can talk about it before we go to break. I want to know how many games he's played in the last two years, period,

82 games per season. Now, I can see if he was playing murder. I mean, if he was out with a time frame. This is a indefinitely. How did he get hurt? Like, he wasn't. The nigga just got back. He's not even playing.

How the fuck did he get hurt? That's an even better question. That's a better question. fuck did he get hurt? That's an even better question. That's a better question. How did he get hurt? For anybody playing in the league, can you just go to your trainer and say, yo, my back, pause, my back is killing me and just be out for games? That's a good question. Because I think they can.

I'm going to see if he's still. I'm going to call Rich Paul and see how he got injured. That's what I'm going to do. Still sign to him. I'm going to find out. I see how he got injured. That's what I'm going to do. Still signed to him. I'm going to find out. I will add, though, it is something with his nervous system. So it's like, I hope he feels better because that can. Oh, it's his nervous system.

Yeah, that can be like a huge. What's a nervous system? Like one of the layers in your body, you know? No, it's your nerves. So that, I don't even know if that can be cured. The point is, it's serious, guys. So show some respect. Seriously that, I don't even know if that can be cured. The point is it's serious, guys. So show some respect, seriously. I really won't.

I'm really not. I was just about to say before you even said that, Stat always finds a way to feel, guys, this is serious. So what I'm going to do is I hope he gets better. You know, Stat, that nigga got that $20 million back that he got fined for not playing. This nigga, he's robbing the league, period. He's just robbing the league. I'm not going to show any respect because this is what happens.

This is my personal opinion. I could be all the way wrong. And if we want, we could use Mace's disclaimer if we like. He said he had mental health issues, and maybe he does. I'm not saying he doesn't. But it didn't really seem like it. And now, to me, it's karma for playing around with that type of shit.

Now, if he really did, then I apologize, and I'll say sorry at a different time. But stop playing with that mental health shit when niggas really got mental health shit. Now you got all type of nerve problems. Hmm. That's a real good assessment, Killa. It's decent.

I mean... It's decent? I don't know if that's the nerves that's going on. What is it? Were you not talking about physical nerves? Like, no, like his nervous system. His nervous system, like that could be a balance, anything. Let's just keep moving. Fuck it.

What's your assessment, though? If mine is just okay? You know, just much respect, you know? I didn't have anything to say. Yeah, Jack, you should be a politician, man. You should run for mayor of

Kentucky. Ben Simmons is a touchy one, bro. Like, come on. Why? Why is he touchy? Been through a lot, bro. What has he been through exactly faced a lot of criticism since he got in the league and it just makes me

fucking sick at the end of the day when you're a public figure you're gonna face it you can face criticism Mace can face it that's fine they got people

who hate stats that's fine I'll let y'all I'll let y'all ride him you can ride him I'm chilling you won't stop that's the pause

of the day so far. I'm going to let y'all ride him, but I'm chilling. Amidst everything happening this week and the crazy games, John Morant coincidentally tweets a blush face emoji. So how do you interpret that tweet?

That's how you... Um... A blush face. He's blushing that nigga's pores. He just blushed. So who though? Who did he send a message to? It's to the world.

Oh, to the world. I guess... Yeah. I think I'm going to take it as this. the world. It was just out there. Oh, to the world. To the world. We're kind of, I guess, I guess, yeah. Yeah. Fuck it. I think, I'm going to take it as this. I think that he's like,

I'm going to kill you niggas when I get back because this shit looks soft as fuck. He's like, yo, when I get back, this shit going to be so easy because to be honest

with you, how do you feel about the 10% of the season went by? How do you feel about the season right now? Honestly, the season feel crazy crazy it don't feel like a real season do all of the right players are not playing people we thought was gonna have a great breakout seasons are totally vanished like right now I'm thinking Jordan Poole was gonna be getting 40 back to-to-back-to-back now that he's in D.C., and that's not happening. Then you looked at, who was that, KD, Book,

and then Bradley Bill getting together, and they really haven't played so much pause together. And then you got the system. System ain't system and so every everything we thought even when we looked at yon is getting with um with with dillard i mean yeah yeah damn everybody is not playing together so it's like it's looking crazy out there i i swear to god that you said everything that I would have said. Like, yo, this, this, see, see what happens is the NBA builds up all these stars and not teams.

So when stars aren't playing, you're like, yo, I don't really be giving a fuck. No, that's because, you know, we, I bet anyway. Mace doesn't bet. So the over and unders is fucked up. Everything is fucked up. But I totally agree with you. Everything that we expected to see this season is not really going on. Little Miss Games, James Harden, they haven't won since he got to the Clippers.

I think we've seen Bradley Bill, Book, and Kevin Durant play one game together, if that. And Kyrie has been no problem. That's the sleeper. Yeah. Dallas. Dallas is the sleeper. Yeah. Dallas. Dallas is the sleeper. Because Kyrie get a lot of off-the-court attention.

I think he need to stay in Dallas because they're talking nothing about, only about basketball when it comes to Kyrie. Nothing off-the-court. I like that. Yeah, shout out to, I mean, shout out to Shamgar. Sham said he with him every day, so shout out to Sham. What do you think, Jack? About what?

About how the league is going so far. It's about 12 games in. Have you been watching? Yeah, I've been watching. Okay, what do you think? You know, it's just good to have it back. No, it might not go as expected, but my Celtics are looking pretty good.

Kristaps Porzingis stepping up to the plate. Chet and Wimby are looking all right. I mean, it ain't the worst. Still time. Yep, you're from this generation You're cool with it We get it We get it I'm saying it's 82 games

Like fuck what's it been 10 games? Like come on About 12, 13 10 11 Okay Point is we got time

This is the point You're cool with this shit huh? I'm enjoying it I like games being on I just like I like to turn on the TV And there's NBA on It's such a warm feeling

Okay I'm not mad at that Fuck, I don't need it to go my way I'm just glad it's on It's better than the pandemic At least we're watching basketball I will drink to that There we go

I will say him saying this Is just so funny Because this is exactly What we go. I will say him saying this is just so funny because this is exactly what we go back and forth about. They're like, you guys don't care? I'm like, not really. As long as it's happening and they're playing well, cool. So you agree with Jack there, basically, sir? Well, it has been a crazy week, but yeah, I do agree.

You don't care? That's a Jacksonville side. No, that's basically... That's my Jacksonville side. So if nobody's basically. That's my Jacksonville side. So if nobody's on the heat, if Bam's not playing, Jimmy Butler's not playing, it's always different. Okay. Moving along. James Harden tells Bones Highland, I'm making shots.

That's my swagger. You feel me? I got to get back to the basics first then I gotta get my swagger I'll be alright though how do you feel about his comment to his teammate

fuck man who is it and said what James Harden told Bones Highland he's basically he's gotta get his swagger back you're about to shit on James

I know it basically he told one of the people he's just gotta get his swag back I'll let Mace go first because Mace is better. You go, Jack. Let's talk his physique.

Oh, my goodness. You like looking at men's physiques and lips. I don't give a fuck about that shit, but I'm going to see it. I see. I see.

We know this. I already peeped yours. I don't give a fuck. Okay. I'm saying. That's crazy. It's sports, brother. It's a body, ES'm saying That's crazy It's sports brother It's a Body

ESP and the body issue What do you think? About James Harden? Physique I don't think about his physique Well now's your chance Yeah I think James I think James Need to take his

Nutrition seriously I actually think I think he's a A generational talent And I think he needs To take himself More seriously That's what I think

What do you think About his physique, Paul? Because I'm not really... James Harden, actually, I'll just stop for real, but James Harden comes in, you know what James Harden does when he wants to get traded? He doesn't work out.

He's fat. And then when he gets in shape and wants to play for a team, he gets in shape. Do you notice two different physiques on James Harden? Or is it the same physique that you see every time? It kind of reminds me of Melo.

And I think it's wise as you get older to bulk up like that. You think that? But what do you mean bulk up? Because you're not relying on speed. So you need to be able to, you know. No, but he gets fat on purpose just to get traded. Perhaps. What do you think about that?

He's eating out burgers just so he can get traded. I mean, shit, man. I don't give a fuck if he does that. Are you supporting that? Yes. Okay. So if you get traded, just get fat and then go where you want to get in shape. I mean, it seems to work.

He gets traded when he wants. I don't know. This is actually a true fact. Absolutely. Definitely goes where he wants to go. What I'll say is this about it. I think Ty Lue, I don't know what's going on with the dynamics of the Clippers, I think Ty Lue, I don't know what's going on with the dynamics of the Clippers,

but Ty Lue, the coach that I know, he would have made an adjustment by now. This is him proving to whoever brought James Harden over there, whether it's GM, ownership, management, whoever. This is what y'all wanted. No way, bro. This is what you're going to get. No way he's letting it be sabotaged Just to prove a point It's not being sabotaged

So let me tell you how I'm looking at it Ty Lue had a great team before James Harden got there Ty Lue's not the general manager The general manager brings over players You're saying he didn't want James He didn't say that But I think he was doing great without James They're on a six-game losing streak

With five of the games with James Harden being there. They were doing decent before he got there. It's not his choice if James Harden comes there or not. He's just supposed to coach the team. I just feel like he's about to bounce back, bro. If he does, great. I think I'm rooting for James Harden, Kerouac Leonard.

Listen, this would be great for the state of California. You got Paul George, you got James Harden, you got Russell Westbrook, you got Kawhi Lennon. Crazy. All grew up in L.A. This would go to show that L.A. area has some of the best basketball players ever. They look like the

magic grown up, like the A.U. team just grown up. So at the end of the day, this would be a great look for California, but right now, California ain't California-ing. So we'll see what happens, but I think it's up to Ty Lue

to make the proper adjustments. When you say that James Harden's gonna have a comeback, who are they gonna beat to prove that comeback? I just feel like, like, he's gonna turn it on.

And they gonna beat to be Denver? I said James is I don't know if the Clippers are going to take it there I just feel like James is going to catch his wave here soon He just got there I mean, come on I just don't think it's over for Broski You know what I'm saying? Glad y'all agree

What's next? Look I think I don't think James Harden I don't think none of them is over I just think it's about chemistry And I gotta figure out the chemistry I think James Harden's still a fucking all-star Just about figuring out

Who's gonna come off the bench I don't think all four of them can start Well my opinion on it, I just feel like telling Bones that, knowing that now he's out the rotation. If I were Bones, I would feel some type of way because I'm waiting for you

to get your swagger back. Meanwhile, I got to sit on the bench while you're not playing at your full potential. I know it's potentially coming, but we haven't seen it come yet. So, I don't know. I just think it's messed up the whole,

I don't get, I don't get that. But yeah. I was just peeping, I was just peeping Brody, sorry. Looking at my physique for us.

Hey, come on. So, so that's my opinion on it. So I hope he gets his swagger back quicker because it's just not looking very good

for their team right now. That's what I think. Let us know what you guys think about James Harden. We're going to go to break. And when we return, we will talk about Mark Jackson. Pink horsepower.

She call this thing about toxic. What's happening, baby? Baby, what's happening? Walking like that. That's how I walk. And then like you come on breathing on me like that. I fucking breathe to live.

And like you used to be dark skinned and now you act like hella light skinned. You fucking blind? I'm dark skinned. What the fuck? And then like look at your beard. The fuck is wrong with my beard? Your beard looks stupid.

What the fuck are you talking about? No, I don't even like it. The way you breathe and all of that. Has this ever happened to you? Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset. She's frustrated. There's only one way to handle that. Pink horsepower. But your breath! But your breath is really refreshing!

No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately? It looks so good. No! PHP. It works every time wait where are you going welcome back so let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day

tonight the Rockets will play the Clippers underdog fantasy has Jalen Green at 19 and a half points do you have him higher or lower Mace probably no Jalen Green at 19 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower? Mace. Probably no. Lower. More higher.

I think that Houston doing really well. They're another surprising team on the West Coast. And this is a pretty good game. Clippers is fucking up. This is a pretty good game for Houston to shine. And I think Jalen Green is definitely going to shine the game. Okay.

Paul George is at three assists. Do you have him higher or lower? Fuck knows over there. I'm like, who knows who's passing this shit? It's the GOAT, killer. It's the GOAT. Yeah, no, I'm not.

Yeah, Paul George is the GOAT. It's the GOAT. Three assists? Yeah. The GOAT can get more than three assists. Not with this lineup. I'm not sure. I'm going to go.

I'm actually going to go. I think he's going to have 300. I'm going to go lower. I'm going to go higher for the GOAT. For the GOAT. And James Harden is at five rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Okay. I'm or lower, Mace? Okay.

I'm going lower, too. I think James is going to be on the wing talking about it. You get the rebound. I'm going lower, definitely. He's trying to score. Make sure to download the Underdog Fantasy app, and you can make your picks, too. We are joined back with our guest, Jack Harlow.

Hi. Did you bring us any gifts? Fuck yeah. New ballots? Yeah. Okay. What size are you? So you didn't bring them. You just got a bunch of new ballots. I want to make sure I brought the right shit. What size are you?

Hey, yo. That's crazy. Keep asking what size I am. That's why. You can't do shit, bro. How big are you for real? Yeah, yeah,? Yeah I refuse I'm not gonna do this Jack is trolling you Jack is trolling

I can't even fuck up I can't even operate in here bro I wear size 10 But I would I don't know if you born or not But I would like some of the Jack Harlow New Balance Sent over if they're not here today

It's coming I'm coming Trust me I'm coming Doing it on purpose at this point. I'm not seeing into it. I'm not feeling. Not for real.

How long is your shit? I mean, like your feet, how big are they? I just said it. If you didn't hear me, we'll get a playback for you. It looks. Okay. Mark Jackson

It was announced He will not be calling games On MSG Network After the Knicks Kicked him off The chartered plane You feel some type of way About that

Jack do you want to go first Just such a good voice bro I don't know Fuck man Fuck bro I don't know. Fuck, man. Fuck, bro. I mean, I'm sure y'all feel the same way. It's fucked.

I spoke to Mark Jackson. Mark said this is a lie and that he turned that job down a week and a half ago. So all these stories that's coming out about him getting fired or altercation and so on and so forth. It's not true.

It didn't happen. He's been turned that job down. So it's nothing to talk about. And I actually believe him. Rose plugged. In. Well, like we say, we the new source.

Okay. What are you going to say about it? I'm not going to say anything about Mark today. Okay. Y'all don't speak on Mark for real. Yeah, Mark's from New York. No, no, for real.

Mark's like one of our guys. Okay. Chris Rock fake recruits USC quarterback Caleb Williams to the Jets so if Caleb Williams were to be drafted right now do you think the Jets would be a good fit for him I'm tired of New York sports fans

begging like yo man we always begging for some shit cause we don't fucking win nothing when it comes to basketball and even when football wins, that shit is in Jersey. We respect it. And shout to Jersey.

You know I fuck with Jersey. But all we really got is the Yankees and they won in like 20 years. We always begging. Spike Lee begging ass. Fucking Chris Rock now you begging. Look, if we get them,

we get them. But stop begging. Like, since when we start begging to have niggas pause, man? And Caleb Williams is dope, but why the fuck would he come to the Jets if Aaron Rodgers is going to come back? Yeah, that makes no sense. Why wouldn't he go to the Giants? He's going to go to whoever has the fucking top pick.

He's going to go one or two. If not first, he's going to be the first quarterback selected. But at the end of the day, Aaron Rodgers is already at the fucking jets. Aaron Rodgers is talking about coming back this year. Yeah, so if he

said if he don't go to the team he like, he said he was going back to college anyway. Absolutely. So if it's not one of those hot cities, he probably going to just hit the portal. This is more about Chris Rock begging to me. Yeah. I don't like Chris Rock begging niggas to come to New York. Like, stop begging people to come to New York.

I don't get that. And he needed to stop soliciting attention. He saw how that turned out with Will Smith.. And he needed to stop soliciting attention. He saw how that turned out with Will Smith. Yeah. He needed to stop soliciting attention. All right. Okay. You're going to put us in a joke for that.

Chris, he was just playing. I didn't say it, Chris. Mace did. I just said stop begging niggas to come to New York. Mace brought all that other shit up. How you feel about it, Jack? Harlem world. Fuck it.

Let me ask you this. Jack might be high. We didn't ask him that. Jack's like going for a late night talk host. Yeah, I know what you're trying to do You got that swag on Let me ask you this Jack I know what you're trying to do

Hey before you start I just want to say something Don't make this about race please Because I peep how you are I don't want to hear that Since I got in here bro I actually love I love white people I like them better actually sometimes than dealing with n go on, go on. I love white people. No, it's all good. Go on. I like them better, actually,

sometimes than dealing with niggas. It depends on what, you know, when my check is involved, I hate dealing with niggas. I love dealing with white people. What were you going to say, though? Because I like where it was headed. I was going to ask you,

how do you feel about Kentucky not having any professional teams? Y'all got the Derby. That's a top tier question. Yeah. First off. It sucks, man. Before the NBA,

ABA merger, we had the Kentucky Colonels. We had Artis Gilmore. So Louisville had a basketball team. I dream of a day we'll get another one. Right now we have a soccer team in the USL, which is right under the MLS.

So it's wonderful, but it hurts, bro. But we're a college state. Louisville and Kentucky was rivalry. It's mattered for but it hurts, bro. But we're a college state. Louisville and Kentucky was robbery. It's mattered for a long time. So. Do you think the city would turn out for NBA team? People love basketball in Kentucky.

Yes. Yeah. Won't you start one? I'd like to. What would it be called? I might bring back the Colonels. Okay. Like Colonels or like...

Is that because of the chicken? Nah, it's kind of an award people get. Like, it's like an honor that the state bestows upon people in Kentucky. Like, I'm a Kentucky colonel and I get like a certificate. I think it's for like good members of society.

And so it's just this kind of, so Colonel Sanders who made KFC was a colonel himself. It's this thing. It's kind of some old, you know. Is Bryson still a colonel?

He might be. I don't know. He got a lot of accolades. I don't know if he's a colonel? He might be I don't know He got a lot of accolades I don't know if he's a colonel Could you help like On one take One take become a colonel? One take Timmy?

Yeah You just pulled that out Like Nardwaur I like your style He's up on shit He's clearly on the way here Googling shit Not playing

You fuck with one take Yeah It's hard Back when he had the bandana one take has a lot of

respect locally so who knows do you know any black colonels no he doesn't I'm a colonel

you should be where you a colonel at you look like you could be a colonel though you look like you could be a colonel though You look like you could be a colonel I like those fucking glasses though bro You see the dollar sign on the side?

Right there on the corner? I can't lie You spaz putting those on Yeah I'm a colonel Them shits are sitting on you Yo this little jack is wild Yo Jack Jack Moving along Them shits are sitting on you. Yo, this little jacket's wild. Yo, jacket. Jacket.

Moving along. The Magic beat the Bulls 96-94. There are rumors of a potential Zach Levine trade. Do you think that would make sense? And should he be traded? For AD? I mean, where is yours?

Wherever you think. I ask the right questions. Who they trading them for? Well, it's a rumor. They talking about like, it's that breaking the Bulls team up because they're not doing well. And he's like the number one nigga on the Bulls.

So they're not saying we should go. I heard it might be for Harden though. I'm not mad at that. That would be great. That would be kind of good, actually. That would actually be really great. Think about being a GM? I'd be open to it.

For the Colonels. For the Colonels. Colonel Jack, the GM. I think that's actually, all jokes aside, I think that's a really good trade. Like fucking Zach Levine on the Clippers and get Harden to go play with another LA dude that's what they're saying

that's what Silver was talking about that might actually balance out the East even more yeah who would you trade him to Mace? who would you what do you think is a great trade? Because I think Jack made it.

And wherever he heard it, I think that's great. What do you think would be a great trade for Zach Levine? Or anybody? Play Thompson. Mm-mm. You're going to break the team. You know I ain't getting rid of them. You know, that core is going.

They all going to die there. That's true. It's clay right now. I'm telling you. You got to get what you can get right now. Hey, yo. Boss. Yo, Jack.

That was a crazy one, though, Jack, for real. Yo, Jack. Real quick, moving along to football. Deshaun Watson will be undergoing season-ending surgery, and in his place will be quarterback DTR, rookie quarterback. What do you see happening with the Browns?

OJ going to have a field day with this shit. This is what I will say. OJ going to lose his motherfucking mind, because last night... He's going to say the quarterback's getting hurt. Last night, man. They don't pay the running backs. I don't even know if you know, man, but Joe Burrows is hurt, man.

Oh my goodness. Fucking sad, bro. You know I'm upset. It's the Ohio thing. Nah. It's the Ohio thing. Nah, y'all ain't hurt the way I'm hurt though. Is that for real?

Yeah. Yeah. Y'all hurt last hurt the way I'm hurt though is that for real yeah yeah y'all hurt last night so what do you mean by that you know what I mean bro how are you oh

you ain't hurt I'm hurt thing about it is you know I used to live in Ohio so me and Mason and he used to live in Florida so we have these Ohio Florida

problems all the time because I'm literally from the Midwest outside of Harlem. When I leave Harlem, I'm from the Midwest. He's from the South, so Joe Burrows has been a staple in the show so far this year, and Mase has kind of been shitting on the nigga. Not really. Just defending Pat Mahomes.

He got the like balls of swoop like you got you know so he what's a swoop looking at my shit now

are you saying that they they got the same hairstyle what I don't know what it's called what is it called

Jack it's cool it looks I know you ain't hating on me but I'm just saying what it's called. What is it called, Jack? It's cool. Good looks. I know you ain't hating on me, but I'm just saying, what do you mean? It's like a swoop. Why are you doing this when you do it? Just my cut. Just my cut.

Jack know you, family. Jack is like like my Paul is my favorite white boy it looks that's racist Mace he said don't make it

about race he's not but he's family we ain't he's not as good as the black rappers are you saying that's what you're saying

no no no what do you mean your favorite white boy why would you say that about Jack some people say that that um you ever hear somebody

say you're my favorite black rapper? Yes. Yeah. I'm saying it because. You're one of my favorite black rappers. No, no, listen. Let me say this. You're one of my favorite black rappers.

It's true. That's real. That's why I'm reciprocating. Paul. Let's look. Yeah. So I'm. No, you know how most people.

A lot of people say one of the best rapper'm... No, you know how most people... A lot of people say one of the best rapper ever is like, you know, Eminem. So I want... I'm saying I'm putting you pause like that. Good looks. But when you mention Eminem,

people don't say he's my favorite white rapper. They just say he's one of the best rappers. They don't categorize Eminem's race. Now I'm racist. I'm going to say he was.

Not everybody understands our bond. It's all good. No, now it's between me and him at this point. Could you excuse us for a second? I just want to know when people mention Eminem, they don't be like, he's the best white rapper. They say Eminem could be the best rapper. So I was just wondering if you only felt,

do you feel he's good amongst black rappers as well? Oh, yeah. Okay, because I think Jack is nice. Yeah, that's what, when I met Jack. When I met Jack, I told him. I would never say he's one of my favorite white rappers. I just say, yo, you're one of the top rappers, period. That's a new way to look at it. Thank y'all both, man.

That's a new way to look at it. Jack is nice. I fuck with Jack yeah Jack there's a lot of niggas I don't fuck with you you can spit bro nah we ain't saying like don't put we in it

you said it I'm not saying white rapper like like Vanilla Ice nigga or like one of them niggas then why would you bring Vanilla Ice

into this because that's see where that's that's where you're trying to take it I'm talking about like up there I think it doesn't

matter what race it is I think he's one of the top 10 rappers out there right now no matter what race it is well real quick before we close one question

gotta ask about it you posted something about 1950s condoms do you want to elaborate on that is there a collection you know

well I was just thinking earlier like You know contraceptives have Been existing for a few decades now And I'd love to just slip one of those Motherfuckers from the 1950s on I'm sure it would fuck it up But

I'm sure they feel the same way Like you just want to try it I don't know Yo Jack You need a stand-up show. Jack. Jack, you need a stand-up show for real. Let me ask you this, Jack. Yeah.

If you meet the right girl the right night after the show, are you going to roar? Of course. Well, when you say right... I mean, you kind of answered it in the question. You said right. Yeah, I mean... The right girl to be raw, I assume you're saying.

Yeah, well, she looks good. Let's be more specific so it can be more of a... Yeah, I'll be more specific. She looks good. She's pretty. It looks like you may want to marry her one day. Have kids and a family with her. Do you go raw the first night?

How are you going to raw the first night with somebody that you just met? How often do I? Yeah. How often do you? Incredibly rarely. On a scale of one to ten, what, two out of ten? It's got to be an extreme magnetic pull for me to go raw with somebody. Period.

But have you ever done it the first night? Yeah. Perhaps. Okay. Perhaps. We'll take that as a yes. Perhaps. Did you see yourself settling down one day with one female?

You know, I used to think so less and less I just become more unsure I don't know it's tough with our lifestyle you know are y'all settled I'm not

are you fuck yeah what are you looking for in a woman actually I'm glad you asked Yeah. What are you looking for in a woman, actually? I'm glad you asked. I like dark hair. I like a baby face.

Nice full face. Full face, like chunky face? No, I mean just like a baby face. All right. You know. And I like sweethearts, you know. I just like girls that are so sweet. And that might seem a little vague, but that's just me.

I don't. What's the definition of a sweetheart? Just a girl that has such a warm presence. And just is comforting. And like, will give you a massage. You know what I'm saying? We just had that up here. But I don't know if she's a a massage you know what I'm saying we just had that up here but I don't know if she's a sweetheart

that's what I'm saying I'm just talking about massages I'm not talking about who people are okay no that's what I'm saying you may get a good massage but uh

no I just at this point in my life you may interview me in five years or maybe we'll just be out to dinner sometime and you'll ask me

what are you looking for in a woman when I'm age 30 and I'll say oh I need a woman that is hard-nosed and pushes back and is... But right now, at this point, in the middle of my

bachelor times, I'm looking for something soft all around. You get what I mean? I'm not sure what a lot of things you mean. You look to physiques and lips and Martin Luther King's lips today. You're looking for a volleyball player from Stanford.

I'm just trying to, you know, the answer is very, you say you're very vague. Do you date black women? Do I date black women? I don't know anything about your dating history. So that's what I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out exactly. I do. Okay. street so that's what I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out exactly I do okay what race was your last girlfriend a couple of them okay you had multiple women at one time no a couple races she's a couple

races mixed in one what was the majority majority? What did she look like? Kind of like Mace. No, I'm joking. She looked good. Beautiful. Beautiful woman. That was playaristic right there. Do you know Larissa Pippen? You said Larissa Pippen? I always say her you know Larissa Pippen?

You said Larissa Pippen? I always say her name Larissa Pippen We're out of the eye Do you know who that is? But of course If she wanted to leave Michael Jordan's son And get with you tomorrow

Would you do it? If the pussy was good Well if I knew the pussy was good I probably would have already done it. Yeah. But. So you're saying

you could take a nail if you wanted to? No, I'm saying I would have a conversation. All right. Yeah. So you don't mind

that she's been with Scotty, Mike's son, and then, that's an even better question. Do you care about a woman's history if you really like her a lot?

And you want to be what dude? He's really in his fucking bag. I've been waiting on this since Mark Jackson. I'm a journalist. Would you want to

be with a woman with a history of being with a lot of men? If you really liked her a lot, would that matter to you? The thing about history is it often indicates that a woman knows what she's doing. So

don't bother me too much. Some people may say 20 people. It ain't about race for me. Well, me neither. I don't care who you fucked. If I like you, I'm gonna fuck with you. It's my turn. That's how I look at it. It's my go. You seem like the type. Yeah, I'm definitely that type. I like that about you. Thank you, man. And you how I look at it. It's my go. You seem like the type. Yeah, I'm definitely that type.

I like that about you. Thank you, man. And you know what? I like you as well, man. Well. For me,

for me, I try to, you know, obviously it's nice to know that, um, a woman hasn't been everywhere, but at the end of the day, like you get to a certain age,

like every woman's been heartbroken by my age. So they've had a lot of experiences. a woman hasn't been everywhere, but at the end of the day, like, you get to a certain age, like, every woman's been heartbroken by my age, so they've had a lot of experiences. By the time I was 22, I felt like I hadn't met a girl

that hadn't been heartbroken, so. Imagine the bitches I meet at my age. Imagine what the fuck they've been through. Especially after you. Fucked up for me, man. That's why I don't give a fuck

Who you been with You like me And I like you We good Actually Damn I can't imagine What it's like for you Yeah

It's tough man It's pretty tough I could be in your shoes Listen man First of all Before we get back to shoes Whoever's out there You

Yo Urban I want my new balance. We're going to talk. Y'all came empty-handed. Oh, Urban said he doesn't even have his new balance. Urban said I didn't even get my shit. So make sure you bring us some stuff. But you have anything else to go before I ask before I get out of here? No, I did.

But it would definitely seem racist. And I'm not trying to. Just shoot, man. Fuck it. What the fuck was that? I know you're not racist. We all know that. We know that.

All right. All right. I wanted to ask, who are your top 10 white players of all time in the NBA? Race again, bro. I'm trying to get the content that I know is going to shine on the network. Come on, let's talk whites. Yeah. Y'all might have to.

Because I did mine. I did my top 10. Come on, let's talk whites. Yeah. Because I did mine. I did my top ten. Come on, yo. It's like I can't even talk to this guy, bro. Alright, let's talk that shit. It'll make it easier if we don't go in exact order. Yeah, just your

top ten. Let's just name ten of them. Yeah. All right. Big Bird. Bird. Javi. Fuck, man. Tough, no.

My top ten. Name a few for me. Just name a couple. Mikael. Okay. That's a great pick. Bird. I just hate talking

about guys that are before my time it's like Chris Mullin okay yeah Mark Price yeah

should we talk modern whites yeah go ahead modern whites yeah Dirk Jason Williams

I like obscure whites though like Chase Budinger always had my respect Lua Munson Yeah. Dirk. Jason Williams. I like obscure whites, though. Chase Budinger always had my respect. Lua Munson. Top 10? No.

I'm talking obscure whites right now. Oh, obscure. Tyler Hero, of course. Jesus Christ. Austin Reeves is looking good. We got to add Hero to that list. Pause. That definitely should.

What's the pause on that? It's just a list. Is Dirk white or European? Dirk is white. Dirk is white. Yeah. Joker. Joker's

number up there. Yeah. Who? You know, it's a better there. Yeah. Who? You know, it's a better question. Yeah,

Luka Donovan, but let's do white Americans. Yeah. Who in the industry have you dated? What? Would you date somebody in the industry?

Who you got your eyes on? Like I shouldn't say, it wouldn't be very playeristic right now. Okay. It's the early stages still. You and Suki would be good.

Good looks. You and Saucy would be good. Yeah. That was crazy. That was crazy. How are you going? I know your type.

Okay, Jack. How do you think, what do you feel about Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift's situation? Marvel. How he went about it, do you think that was player? How did he go about it?

How did he go about it? He gave her a friendship bracelet at her concert and then basically said, I watch you rock the stage so you should see me rock the field. And then she came to the game.

I mean, fuck, man. I mean, you missed that one, Jack. Clearly not. He begged. Every girl has a different thing that makes them tick. Sometimes it's a friendship bracelet.

That was actually a good gift to get what he's got. And not only that, I think the NFL owes him. The ratings have been crazy whenever she watches. So if the friendship bracelet, the NFL has benefited.

Is he face of the league right now? Is Travis Kelsey the face of the league? The face of the NFL. No. And take y'all The face of the NFL. No. And take y'all's biases out of this. No. I don't got no problem.

I think... Who is? I think... Is it his quarterback? I was just about to say that. I think it's Patrick Mahomes. It's Swoop. They're like...

They got the same type. They're looking like, yo, you got to get out of here. Do you want to stay longer? Of course. I do, but they're probably right. I got to hit stage. All right, cool.

Fucking love y'all, though. Yo, want to stay longer? Pause. I do, but they're probably right. I got to hit stage. All right, cool. Fucking love y'all though. Yo, you're fucking dope, man. You're funny. I didn't know you was this funny. And anytime you want to come back up here, pause, you're more than welcome, man. I'll be back. Please do.

And I'm sitting at the desk with y'all next time. Yeah, and listen, let everybody, what's your new single this out? It's called Loving On Me. All right, make sure y'all go check out Loving On Me Jack Harlow thank you so much

for coming through bro we appreciate you man Jack thank you for being here that's all the time we have for today thanks for watching and as always

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