IT IS WHAT IT IS - JAMES HARDEN WANTS TO RETIRE WITH THE CLIPPERS BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE HIM | S3 EP.11

Episode Date: January 18, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Florida, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. It will also match your first deposit up to $100 and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm treasure Wilson, AKA stat baby,
Starting point is 00:00:48 along with your host mace and can murder. What up, man? Chill it, man. What's going on? Good. I was a good Samaritan today.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I waited for you. You were late. I appreciate it. Hey, listen, I mean, what can I say, man?
Starting point is 00:01:03 I really appreciate that you waited. What episode are we on? 92nd episode, 91 episodes. And this is the first day I'm late. First of all, this is the first day I'm late. Mace lives six blocks from here. Mace walks in here. We don't say nothing.
Starting point is 00:01:22 We just like, that's Mace squad. We're plotting to M here. We don't say nothing. That's Mase squad. What can we say? Yeah, Mase. You just crashed this. I waited for you. Thank you. I appreciate it. I appreciate you waiting for me, man. And listen, I don't got no problem
Starting point is 00:01:41 with you coming in late every day. You murder. You come late every day. You murder. You come late every day. You stroll in here. What's up? Blame all of us acting like we late. And you live six blocks from here. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I don't care. I don't mind because you my big bro. Walk in when you want to walk in. It's all fine with me. But I'm going to tell you why I'm late. I'm going to tell you exactly why I'm late. And listen, you my nigga and all that shit. But right now, I'm being, I'm being how, I'm being, what's it called?
Starting point is 00:02:10 I'm guilty by association right now. Because I'm telling you right now, Murda, I don't want no problem with you. But now I'm running into problems in the street now. So we coming in the casino, me and Church. Listen, me and Church, all right, Church. Church had to just grab a nigga up. Nigga walks in the casino. We walk in the casino, me and Church. Listen, me and Church, Church had to just grab a nigga up. Nigga walks in the casino. We walk in the casino.
Starting point is 00:02:29 And a nigga comes to me and says, yo, when Mace said he's going to put out a song on Black Friday, and then the other day he said he's going to put a freestyle out, what's going on? I said, I don't know. Whenever Mace wants to put it out. And then the nigga mumbles under his breath When somebody pop on one of you niggas, I guess she'll be happy Well, I don't know niggas pop on one of you niggas church had to grab it because I'm confused Why nigga might even want to pop on me?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Don't tell niggas you putting out no more freestyles, my nigga, because it's starting to turn violent at this point. To where niggas say, well, when a nigga pop on one of you niggas, I guess y'all be happy. I don't know why a nigga even want to pop. And I'm going to tell you, you be careful as well. You be careful as well. Because niggas is remembering that. Tito said today they was going to start
Starting point is 00:03:26 a petition on when is the shit coming out because people were eager to hear what's going on. Now I'm being threatened. I'm just letting you know that. I'm at the point where I'm being threatened because they want to hear music. We can get to what we got to do. I just thought I'd share that with you. Be careful in them airports, in them countries, and wherever you're traveling, it's turning violent because you won't give niggas a 16 or whatever you promise niggas.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Beware. That's all I'm saying. Dang. Okay. Let's start the show. What an interesting start. Yeah, man. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:00 During the Grizzlies game in which they won against the Warriors 116-107, Draymond Green revealed Memphis's Gigi Jackson, also the youngest active NBA player, told Steph Curry, I got uninvited from your camp. You then went on and dropped 23 points on them.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Why do you think he told Steph that? And what's your initial reaction to hearing that? Gigi Jackson for Memphis? Yeah. Triple J, triple Gs, all these fucking, all these shit. Double G, J, double G, J. Yeah, and all this shit. Listen, you know what I don't understand?
Starting point is 00:04:38 And listen, man, what I just don't understand with people is that while I play with certain individuals? Like certain people you could say shit like that to or you could sit there and talk shit to and you feel confident about it. Like, you know, when I was talking, I watched years ago, this was years ago, Alan Iverson, everybody knows that famous crossover
Starting point is 00:05:04 he did on Michael Jordan. And Allen Iverson got on TV and they was like, how you felt about doing that to Michael Jordan? And he was like, yo, Mike is the GOAT. But you know, this is my dance floor too when I come out here. This is my dance floor. And Allen Iverson is shit.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Probably, not even probably top five, two yards, especially at six feet, six foot one, whatever he is. But he even said it like, you know, this is my dance floor.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And that was bigger him to say, and that was dangerous to say as well. But that's Allen Iverson. I'd never heard of Triple G. And the reason I bring that up is because niggas like Allen Iverson, he can say shit like that. Even though he's not Michael Jordan, he can say shit like that.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Even though he's not Michael Jordan, but he still can say that. You had 23, you didn't have 47. You didn't have 48. You're in second and third to last place, GGG. Don't talk to self-curry like that. The nigga got four rings. The nigga shoots out the building. You know what happened?
Starting point is 00:06:03 You know what happened, GGG? He called him GGG. What's his name? G.G. Jackson. G.G.J. Not Triple G, Cam. He's G.G.J. That's the point.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I don't even know that nigga. That's the point. I'm just G.G.J. I said Triple G, my fault. Juh, juh, juh. You saw that juh. You saw that juh. What I'll say is this, and I, my fault. You saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that Dylan Brooks tried this he tried to say some slick shit to LeBron James and you know what LeBron James did
Starting point is 00:06:49 to him the next time they played killed them and sent them niggas home he's in Houston right now I'm not saying Houston's doing pretty good actually better than Memphis but still he didn't want to go to Houston he got out of pocket with a superstar a hall of famer
Starting point is 00:07:04 the person who has all the leads to NBA He didn't want to go to Houston. He got out of pocket with a superstar, a Hall of Famer, the person who has all the leads to NBA and points past Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. He got out of pocket with him. And you did it subliminally because you could have been like, yo, Steph, you know what's good? I came to your camp and I didn't make it. It's a pleasure to even be on the same court as you.
Starting point is 00:07:24 It's a way to do it. You, if you, I don't know the context of how it went, but this is the quote that we got. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:31 you cut me at your camp, nigga. Shit. Take packing on up. Don't, don't play with, don't play at that light skin nigga like that,
Starting point is 00:07:39 man. That's a light skin nigga to get dark for us. Beware. Do not do that because you'll end up... Tomorrow, you won't even know it, and you'll be in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Keep playing. Dumb is the type of niggas that get you traded to the worst team in the NBA. Keep it up, and you'll be in Detroit. Go ahead, Murda. Yeah, playing for the Sacramento Shishkabob. You ain't even in the G league you in the f league my nigga you a buggin you gotta chill what is wrong with these i appreciate the tenacity pause but i'm thinking about how do you get uninvited that's what i wanted to talk about what did you do that made them uninvite you
Starting point is 00:08:26 like you were you had an invitation and then we changed our mind like what happened in that particular scenario because that's crazy so that's actually exactly what happened yeah they gave out invites and they over invited too many people so they had to retract some invites back and his was one of them so he was one of the people that they were being generous to and it was like if we have enough space pauls you can show up and then they recognized they didn't have enough spaces and they had to say come on my nigga you know you don't belong on this list and that's basically what it is. We were trying to be nice. This is what happened when that mentality of giving everybody a trophy goes wrong. You know, like when I was living in L.A., not L.A., but San Diego,
Starting point is 00:09:18 my son was playing on a team, and they would just give everybody trophies. I said, nah, give the trophy back. I said, nah, give the trophy back. He said, well, I give the trophy back. I said, cause you didn't win anything. You didn't win anything. Y'all actually was like in fourth place. You don't get a trophy for fourth place. And then I made him work until he could win a trophy that he could have.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And he appreciated it. But at that moment, that was hell in the household. Yeah, I can imagine. You made him give his trophy back. Yeah, there's like a fourth place trophy. That's not a real trophy. Yeah, that's a participation trophy and we don't do those.
Starting point is 00:09:58 We don't do the participation trophies. You start him out early, then he can get uninvited. This is how you can get uninvited. You're really not in the list. And we decide that we no longer giving out participation invitations and they need that invite back. Yeah. You know who you take, though?
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah. You know who that is? Murder. Like, you know, when you go to the awards and you get over, how you sit in the front, or it's you or Denzel Washington. He's a seat filler. Yeah. He's the people that fill the seats up
Starting point is 00:10:35 when they're around the celebrities so that it look crowded when they're there. Yeah. And you actually, Gigi Jackson, because I'm on a new path right now. You should be actually happy that he uninvited you because that's what made you work to be on this stage. You got to remember, sometimes it's a blessing in disguise that somebody told you the truth. He told you the truth.
Starting point is 00:10:59 But let me get the invitation back. And that's why you was able to get 23 that night. That's how I see it. What new path are you on? You on a new path? What path is this? Let me know what's going on. And I'm not letting nothing slide no more.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Okay. I thought that was the original path. You went off path for a minute and you got back on it? Yeah, I got off a little bit. I was trying to let niggas enjoy themselves. I'm back on it. That's why I got
Starting point is 00:11:36 on all black, you know? Pause. Okay. Well, you said pause kind of a little bit after you was trying to let niggas enjoy themselves, which was kind of crazy. But okay. And look, May said it really well. That's a great way to look at it.
Starting point is 00:11:52 That, you know, being uninvited. What'd you say? I said he helped them. No, absolutely. I didn't look at it from that perspective. That's a great way to look at it. Being uninivided. And not only, we don't know which are trials and tribulations or your road to the NBA was, but obviously, if you remember that and want to tell him, that seems like you've been wanting to tell him that for a minute. That helped you get there. And I didn't look at it from that perspective. That's a great way that Mace put that together. And that could be part of the reason, one of the reasons, many reasons that you are in
Starting point is 00:12:27 the NBA now. I don't slight no NBA player, but it's just about, it's levels to this shit. Be careful. Be really careful. You know, we talked about this with, and it hasn't happened yet, with Halliburton talking to Damian Lillard crazy, and they
Starting point is 00:12:43 played again. Halliburton said, I said what Iard crazy and they played again. And Halliburton said, I said what I said. You know, he bust ass again. So now when this happens after, if you go back and do this again, I said what I said. Same thing with our nigga Sha over there,
Starting point is 00:12:59 Shay over there in OKC. He putting up pictures and stuff. And then he went back and did it again. You know, when you do this multiple times, I could dig it, but not with the Grizzlies at this particular point. They're not that good.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Golden State isn't the best that they are right now, but they're better than the Grizzlies. I just want to add, I just don't think he was being, trying to be disrespectful because even like they had a post game interview
Starting point is 00:13:27 where Shaq was interviewing him and he didn't know until Shaq introduced himself and in the interview Shaq basically just told him I don't have a question I just want to say congratulations young fella
Starting point is 00:13:36 because he did just turn 19 and he was very shook and surprised so like he still obviously has respect for other players but I think in that moment like
Starting point is 00:13:44 you know in the heat of the moment like they're beating the warriors this is steph curry he did get uninvited from the camp he just wanted to say his little piece and he got it out there and that's that but niggas niggas get killed in the heat of the moment pause niggas die sometime in the heat of the moment i don't see niggas get shot in the heat of the moment. So I dig it. I hear where you coming from. Yeah, and he think different in heaven, you know. Yeah, watch that.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah, y'all be careful. That is not the way I was going. Yeah, we from a different area, a different place. The heat of the moment could cost you your life. Be careful. Yeah, you don't get a do-over for that. Okay. You got to play with the right niggas.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Right. Next topic. The Suns completed. Oh, and just real quick, I just think it's funny too. We'll see what happens because every time we talk about a player, you guys are like,
Starting point is 00:14:40 I never heard of him. They end up spazzing out. So we'll just see what happens next for Gigi Jackson because who knows? Well, he's been there all season, right? Yeah, he's on two-way though. So I don't know how many times.
Starting point is 00:14:51 So he's been in the G League as well. Yeah. Well, we didn't hear about him until this. You know, when people... Yeah, we didn't hear about him because he's in the G League. Who watched the G League games? I don't. Yeah, neither do I. unless it's maybe the championship.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Secondly, you might be in the G League next week. When you're a two-way player, that means they keep shipping you back and forth from the G League to the A, G League to the A. You might have been playing because niggas is hurt. You got to think about it. Desmond Baines hasn't been playing. You know John Morant's out for the season. And you're a two-way player saying, You know, John Morant's out for the season. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:15:28 two-way players saying, you know, I got cut from the camp. Look, you can find a nice way about this stat all you want. That's what you do for a living. Watch your mouth before I make a call and get you back in the G League. And you're 19. Be easy, my nigga. Be easy. Moving along.
Starting point is 00:15:44 The Suns completed a tour. Did you just threaten that nigga, Cam? Did he just threaten you? I wasn't threatening. When I say, no, I'm saying be easy, I'm telling him be easy for himself because, look, think about it, Mace. We laugh and we joke and all that other shit,
Starting point is 00:16:00 but dead ass seriously, and niggas won't ever admit it and say it, that nigga Dylan Brooks is not really that bad of a player. He's not terrible. Yeah. He, you know, he, some may say he was the Draymond for Memphis. If you want to look at it. Yeah, he just said it to the wrong
Starting point is 00:16:17 player. You said it to the wrong nigga, man, and that got you out of here. And then as far as you like, as far as that just saying how we always say we never heard of nobody and then we end up hearing about him. Look, we only
Starting point is 00:16:34 talking about him because what he said to Steph. If he had to 23 and then say this to Steph, we wouldn't be talking about him. We're talking about him, but not his basketball. He did a decent job. 23 points is cool. It wasn't, like I said,
Starting point is 00:16:48 it wasn't 90, it wasn't 70. It wasn't a fucking Booker, a Booker, Devin Booker night. This conversation is purely happening because we're leading
Starting point is 00:16:58 the show off with this because of what you said to Steph Curry. Not your 23 points. It's the audacity of you saying this to Steph Curry. So. Now. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Killer, if he does this seven more times and go Jeremy Lin or get an ice cream named after you paused, then maybe you had the right to say it, but not one game. At least Jeremy Lin did it for a few games. Yeah, absolutely. And the. At least Jeremy Lin did it for a few games. Yeah, absolutely. And the problem with that is Mason totally, because you know he played in New York,
Starting point is 00:17:31 so he turned the garden upside down. But where's Jeremy Lin? He did get an ice cream can. Yeah, listen, Buster Douglas got a video game. He knocked Mike Tyson out one night and got a video game he knocked Mike Tyson out one night and got a video game we ain't hear from him since and shout out to Buster Douglas
Starting point is 00:17:51 he from Columbus, Ohio he's an Ohio nigga I know Buster personally with that bust he got a little box of tournaments he got a video game because he knocked out Mike Tyson I ain't never seen
Starting point is 00:18:02 Jeremy Lin ice cream I ain't never played Buster Douglas punch out nothing consistency counts yeah okay let's move on to the Suns they completed a
Starting point is 00:18:15 22.4th quarter comeback to defeat the Kings 119-117 so what do you think about the comeback and then what's your opinion on the Suns? Look, me and Mace picked the Suns to go to the Western Conference Final.
Starting point is 00:18:37 They haven't been living up to the expectations that we thought they would. I'm not going to say it's not a tremendous feat to come back against the Sacramento Kings because the Sacramento Kings are not the Sacramento Kings that they used to be. Sacramento Kings were really, really good last year. This year, they're not about to succeed right now.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Mike Brown, we already know his coaching pedigree. He's really good, but I wouldn't make a big deal out of it because right now, if you ask me this at the beginning of the season, the Suns would be first, second, and third in the Western Conference. Right now, I'm looking at it, they're the eighth seed, which guarantees no playoff spot. Right now, you're in the play-in to see if you're going to be in the playoff if
Starting point is 00:19:31 it ended today. And Sacramento is a better team right now than the Phoenix Suns. So I watched that, and it was a great, tremendous comeback. Look, the NBA, if you get a victory, you get a victory. So they say us as fans, we're not counting that shit.
Starting point is 00:19:48 We expect certain things. Yeah, we expect certain things from certain players. It's great to come back, but we got to stop acting like they don't have Kevin Durant, Booker, and Bill. I don't
Starting point is 00:20:03 know why they wasn't up 20. So that's just my opinion. You know, congrats on the win. But this shouldn't be news. You know, we're sitting here as analysts and sports commentators looking for shit. And that's why I used to be mad when I watched other sports shows.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I'm like, damn, they used to be making shit up to be talking about, why the fuck is this really news? They made a comeback. It's the Phoenix Suns. You got fucking Kevin Durant and Booker and Bradley Beal, and you're playing against the young guns. Now, I'm not shitting on Malik Monk or Fox or the coaching staff
Starting point is 00:20:38 or the rest of the crew over there because they're young and up and coming. They took Golden State to seven games last year in the playoffs and did a phenomenal job. But you're fucking with the and coming. They took Golden State to seven games last year in the playoffs and did a phenomenal job. But you're fucking with the big dogs. Of course. You know? This shouldn't have been a comeback situation. This should have been...
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah, dude. Yeah, Murdoch. Yeah, the crazier news is, why does Eric Gordon have the same amount of points as Devin Booker? Right. I mean, or Bradley Bill. That's really the issue. It's not the comeback.
Starting point is 00:21:11 It's like, yo, you got Bradley Bill at 13. You got Devin Booker at 16. And the story is you got Grayson Allen at 29. That's the crazy part. Right. So when I'm thinking about this as a team, it's still concerning because you're winning on the back paws of Grayson Allen. He had the highest points on the team. That's not a good sign. It's a great, excellent point, man.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Look, we always say it's a long season and we got some time, but it's winding down, man. All-Star break is exactly one month from now. A few teams need to get it together sooner than later. And the Phoenix Suns are one of them. The Los Angeles Lakers are another team. Golden State Warriors are another team. Or we are going to see the changing of the guard. Right now in the East, pretty much what we said before the season started
Starting point is 00:22:06 is going on the East, Boston, Philly, Milwaukee, the creme de la creme of the East. The West, they shaking it up, baby. They shaking it up. And if something doesn't get done quickly, we're going to see some new blood on the West. Outside of Denver, that is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Who you thinking? Sacramento and who else? Because Sacramento is definitely one of them teams. If we're talking about the West, look. Look at the West. Look, you don't know what it is. Minnesota was number one in this one of them situations where they'd be like, oh, they're number one now.
Starting point is 00:22:40 They've been number one for about a month and a half at the number one seed. It isn't like they've been number one and. They've been number one for about a month and a half at the number one seed. It isn't like they've been number one and somebody else comes in number two and then they're number three. Then before you know it, they slide down to four or five or six. Minnesota has been the number one seed
Starting point is 00:22:56 in the NBA. And I don't know this for a fact, but off the top of my head and keeping up with what we need to do for it is what it is, at least a month. At least a month. At least a month. Maybe longer than that.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Oklahoma City has been number two at least a month. At least a month, they've been number two, and Denver's been number three. The sleeper, and I'm not going to say it's a sleeper, but the team that's really surprising and has the best record probably since December, mid-December at least is the Los Angeles Clippers.
Starting point is 00:23:30 You got the Los Angeles Clippers looking like, uh-oh, you know, even with Denver, like, if they can figure that Joker shit out, the Clippers are looking sensational because now you got the GOAT Paul George acting crazy now. He acting GOATish.
Starting point is 00:23:47 He acting real GOATish lately. James Harden is looking really happy as a basketball player. You know, body language says a lot when you play basketball. I'm not saying he wasn't happy. They're all back in their hometown. Killer, they all from LA. Yeah, I know that.
Starting point is 00:24:02 So what better place to win? Yeah, no, but what I'm saying is we knew that before it started when we was criticizing them everybody was criticizing them the only person and we gave them them props before the only person that said give me a minute was Ty Lue and
Starting point is 00:24:17 obviously he had the right games in mind I need 10 games cause that's about how long it took for him to figure it out. It took him about seven to nine games, and then them niggas started clicking. And also, like, when we gave props to him before, it was very big of Russell Westbrook to say,
Starting point is 00:24:36 listen, I'm going to come off the bench. Russell Westbrook took one game. Tyrone Lue took 10 games. Russell Westbrook said, take me one game. If I come off the bench, we start winning. And I think they went on like an eight-game win streak.
Starting point is 00:24:50 So I'm giving the credit to Russell Westbrook. I give the credit to Russell Westbrook too, but it wasn't one game. They lost like six, seven games. And then Russell Westbrook said, nah, I'm going to sit down, B.
Starting point is 00:25:00 This shit ain't working. I don't want to be the blame. So I don't know if you took that one game from the sedan, but remember, them nigg working. I don't want to be the blame. So, I don't know if you took that one game from the Sudan, but remember, them niggas was losing like seven games in a row. Yeah, the one game when he made the decision, that's when they started
Starting point is 00:25:13 winning. So, as a GM, I'm giving the credit to Russell Westbrook. Why is he a GM? So, in the future, he could be a GM, Because remember I said If this doesn't go right This is going to be
Starting point is 00:25:28 The end of his career So You know if somebody Pause Take one for the team At least set him up On his next endeavor Okay
Starting point is 00:25:35 Gotcha I don't see Russell Wilson Being a GM No I see him being A fashion model You know that nigga was the head designer for True Religion
Starting point is 00:25:48 and all that shit at one particular time. You know, he's a fashionista. What you call it? Fashionista. Fashionista. He's one of the fashionistas.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I saw his face when you said you don't see him being a GM when he go, what? Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:26:04 he couldn't be a GM. I think he's more in the fashion than trying to organize a team. But who am I to judge? I don't know. Russell Westbrook's my nigga, so whatever he want to do, I think he'll do it. He definitely judges the hearts of players very well. What's that supposed to mean? He can pick, like, Paul's toughness in a player, like the same
Starting point is 00:26:25 thing that Pat Rowley was at first. He knew the right players to pick and put with certain people. That's what he continues to do with Miami. When did he see Russell Westbrook pick tough players, brother? When was this? You know what I mean? Like he
Starting point is 00:26:41 can acknowledge it. KD argues a lot. Different people he, he can acknowledge it. I mean, KD argues a lot of different people. He argued with over the years. His, his perception is kind of, kind of right.
Starting point is 00:26:54 So you're saying, what does he think of KD? What are you trying to say about that? This is the new leaf I'm on. I'm not letting people. That's what I'm asking you. And now new leaf I'm on I'm not letting people that's what I'm asking my nigga NL new leaf what are you trying to say
Starting point is 00:27:13 I'm trying to he deems Kevin Durant to take the path of least resistance okay that's what he says okay gotcha I like KD too. Pause. I want to go back to the sun,
Starting point is 00:27:28 but I still got to tell the truth. All right, man. I don't know your vibe today. I'm trying to pick up on it, man. You got a dark vibe. You got a podium vibe. He deems the path. We're going to deem the path today.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I got to chill out. I don't know where you're going. Because you can dig deep in your bag for us. I don't know where we going today. If we going Dean the Pav, I might got to just chill out and relax. I don't know where we going. Oh, God. We're off to a real weird start because it's showing.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Okay. Well, speaking of like teams changing things around, the Pacers acquired Pascal Siakam and a future second round pick from Toronto in a three team deal that includes the Pelicans. Was this a good move for the Pacers? I think this is great. I think this is great. I'm going to be, I'm going to be,
Starting point is 00:28:25 um, Paul short. I think this is really great for the, the Pacers. At first, I didn't like the trade because I was thinking about how later down the line, they may need Bruce Bowen, but,
Starting point is 00:28:38 um, Bruce Brown. Um, but I was thinking about what Siakam could bring to that team. And it's exactly the other pedigree that they need. And that's in the front court because between Buddy Hill and the point guard, they pretty got what they need for the perimeter. Now they need that presence down low. Pause.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Killers on you, though. I was crazy. I was wild. See, our command, his days may have passed, like, when he was that nigga, nigga. He's not bad now, but... I don't know. I'm not... I got to see how it works out.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I see what the paces are feeling. Look, they was like, we was second, third in the East. They dropped down to seventh. And they're like, we got to bust a move to make sure that we stay where we need to stay in the playoffs. I feel more bad for Bruce Brown because it's like, yo, you could have took a couple million less and don't get it fucked up.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I know you won the championship and you want your money, but you could have stayed in Denver. And y'all niggas could have had the same, almost the same team as last year and played that same role because you played a major part in that championship last year. It was even to the point where I was like, damn, they not playing Reggie Jackson? Who is this? And you're like, oh, they not playing Reggie Jackson? Who is this?
Starting point is 00:30:05 Then you're like, oh, this nigga, hi. Oh, this is Bruce Brown, niggas. Hi, B. So I'll wait and see how the trade goes. I don't have as much information as Mace had about it just now. But more than anything else, it's more for me like, damn, Bruce. Now you're just getting shipped around when you had a real, real great place to be at, a championship team, niggas that you know,
Starting point is 00:30:28 coach that loved you, and you was getting decent playing time, for probably two and a half more, three more million dollars than you would have made in Denver. You ain't got that Jordan Poole syndrome. Oh, Bruce? Yeah. Yeah, Bruce? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah, well, I wouldn't say that. You get out of that system, you look different. You know, sometimes, Paul, you're just in a system that shines on your attributes, and then you get out of that system, and it's not the same. And players know what I'm talking about. Sometimes you look brilliant in that system only,
Starting point is 00:31:06 but in another system, you wouldn't even be that player. Copy. Love that you brought up the system because we're going to talk about the system. It was reported James Harden wants to sign a long-term deal with the Clippers and retire with them. Can you see this happening?
Starting point is 00:31:23 Jesus. He said he want to retire there? Yeah. This is like a girl that been married three times. She told the last nigga she'll be with him forever. And the one before that, she told
Starting point is 00:31:38 him she'll be with him forever. And he was her soul mate, you know? James Harden is a Vir virgo let me start with that so as and i don't really talk about this a lot but that that psychological makeup is just a lot of highs and lows so not to cut you off murder what's your sign virgo okay i'm just letting the people know you got to continue i just wanted the people know. You got to continue. I just wanted people to know.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Well, actually, that's not my sign. What's your sign? My sign is dollar sign. My bad. No, I was just saying you was about to speak on Virgos, and people may not know why you have this much knowledge on Virgos. That's all I was saying. Yeah, it's like when they're a part of it, they're a part of it,
Starting point is 00:32:30 and when they're not, it's just nothing you can do to make them a part of it. So I wouldn't hold any of that as true unless he puts it in writing. You know how they have a no trade clause? Yes. They got to make a new clause for players. I don't know what it would be for the GM, but they need that same clause for the players. You promised to not defame the organization.
Starting point is 00:33:01 That's an NDA. They might need an NDA with James Harden, let alone a no trade clause. Well, even when he shitted on Darren Moore, he got fined. They fined him for doing that shit. Look.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Because Darren Moore was his man, right? I was his nigga. And he gave him a lot, a lot of money in two different cities. But Darren Moore, he did play. And he gave him a lot, a lot of money in two different cities. But, Darren Morey did play a little game with him
Starting point is 00:33:28 and said, look, re-sign here and I'll make sure I trade you. And then, once he re-signed, because he wanted to make sure,
Starting point is 00:33:37 that's what I'm saying, that's how much of his man he was. He like, yo, I'm going to get you the bag here because if you go
Starting point is 00:33:43 to another team, you're not going to get the bag that you could get for re-signing. Then I'll trade you. And when Darryl Morey didn't rush and do that, James Harden said he's a sucker, bitch-ass nigga, liar, whatever else he wanted to call him.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And that's when the phrase, come on, my niggas started. Because that's when Darryl Morey's like, what else can I do for you? Back to what you were saying, Mace. Did he ever re-sign him for the more money? Yes, that's what got James Hart mad because he re-signed with Philly and Daryl Morey was supposed to trade him.
Starting point is 00:34:15 And once, because he re-signed, and if Daryl Morey didn't want to trade him, he couldn't bust the move. He couldn't go nowhere. So Daryl Morey ended up trading him eventually, but it wasn't, it started looking like he lied to him. Like, I know I told you to resign, but we can't figure the trade out. So it may look like you're going to be an affiliate another year. And they get like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. That wasn't the deal. You said you resigned me, you got me. And that's his man.
Starting point is 00:34:40 So he trusted him and it didn't go as fast as James Harden wanted it to go. So that's when the problems between James Harden and Daryl Morey started because James Harden thought he was shitting on him. Back to this long-term deal. Look, it sounds good right now because y'all are winning. What? What happened? No, I was agreeing with you. Yeah, I was agreeing with you. Yeah, I'm agreeing with you.
Starting point is 00:35:07 You said it first. It sounds good now because you guys are winning and it's looking good. And y'all climbed out of a hole to being in the fourth place in the Western Conference. And why wouldn't you want to retire at home? Like you said earlier in the show, Mace, Kawhi Leonard, Paul George,
Starting point is 00:35:26 Russell Westbrook, and James Harden is all from the Southern California area. And if you can win and stay home, I think that's dope. We'll see, will it survive the test of time? The Clippers, one thing
Starting point is 00:35:42 for sure, two things for certain, got a jinx on that motherfuckers. I know that. Every time it seem like it's supposed to go right for the Clippers, don't matter who's on the team, it just doesn't seem to go right. Will this team make it right?
Starting point is 00:35:54 Hopefully we'll see, man. We'll have, like I said, Kawhi's looking great. James Harden's looking great. Paul George looks great. Russell Westbrook looks great. Ty Lue coaches asshole. But look, and God forbid, knock on wood,
Starting point is 00:36:08 this thing is an ankle twist from being turned all the way around. One player gets injured, God forbid, and this whole shit will go downhill. Long-term contract, the system, whatever the fuck you want to call it, it'll all go downhill. We are one Kawhi
Starting point is 00:36:24 Leonard hamstring away from this chick turning to a whole different story. So hopefully that doesn't happen, but it sounds good when you're winning. Steve Ballmer, who's the owner, he seems like a dope owner. You know, they're building
Starting point is 00:36:38 a new stadium for the Clippers. They got their own stadium. Some fly shit. I seen it last night. Looks really dope. They're not going to be sharing the court with the Lakers anymore? Nope. They building a new studio.
Starting point is 00:36:49 The Clippers got some new dope shit that they're building right now. It was looking fly too. They got a section in there where if you got on, you can't sit in that area if you ain't got on a Clipper jersey, Clipper jacket, Clipper paraphernalia. You can't sit in a certain part of the arena. So, in other words, if you're not a genuine clipper fan, for this portion of the arena, you can't sit there.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And even if you're not a clipper fan, you got a front like you are and wear the memorabilia that they have there, so, the merch or whatever. But I think Steve Ballmer's dope, man. He's really excited. He's a Steve Ballmer's dope, man. He's really excited. He's a fun... He's not Mark Cuban. He's kind of quirky,
Starting point is 00:37:29 kind of different at the games. Exciting. Excited. But I think he's passionate about his team. When he was in the arena today, pardon me, last night, with a hard hat on pause, with the construction workers
Starting point is 00:37:42 showing how the arena's getting built. Like he was part of building this shit. So I think they got a dope owner and good things are happening for the Clippers moving forward. But I do think that's part of the problem being where the Lakers play. Every night, whether they change that floor
Starting point is 00:37:58 or not from the Lakers to the Clippers, when you look up in them banners, in the Raptors, you only see Laker banners. You don't see no other banners but Laker banners. No matter if the floor say Clippers or not, the Raptors say Lakers. So I think you got to get out that building
Starting point is 00:38:15 and start your own dynasty. Yeah, it's like a nigga letting you stay in his house and saying you're good. You're good until you're not good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Good point. And then last topic before we go
Starting point is 00:38:33 to break, DeAndre Aiton missed Wednesday night's game against the Nets because his neighborhood was too icy. He tried for hours to get out, but was unsuccessful. The Blazers sent people to help, but they couldn't get available. So thoughts on him being stuck? Wait, let me say this.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Let me say this. Yo, D-Wade, I apologize for dissing you on your birthday, but I still stand by what I said, but not on your birthday. I shouldn't have said that on your birthday. But moving on to D, what's his name? DeAndre? DeAndre Ayton. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Why do they got to send somebody to help that big nigga get out the house? Ain't he like seven feet? This is crazy. What do they send over there? I don't know. They just said they sent help and it said to no available. That was the report. Imagine two five, eight niggas over there trying to shovel snow to get a seven foot nigga out with slippers on.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Was it too snowy or too icy? It said too icy. Who buy you some ice skates, nigga? Like, yo, you get paid too much money. Look, me and Mason went last year to go see the Phoenix Suns play, which he played for the Phoenix Suns last year,
Starting point is 00:40:04 which he didn't play because he was beefing with the coach, Monty and all that. Like, yo, niggas gotta, it's always... Yeah, he wanted to stay in Phoenix. Right, yeah, exactly. And it's like, it's always something. It's always something with certain niggas.
Starting point is 00:40:20 You know who would've got to the game? Kobe Bryant, God bless him to death, would've got to the game. Michael Jordan would've got to the game. Allen Alvinson would have got to the game? Kobe Bryant, God bless him today, would have got to the game. Michael Jordan would have got to the game. Allen Alvinson would have got to the game. And I hate always bringing up certain niggas because it seems like Cam, you're always bringing up
Starting point is 00:40:35 the old niggas, this and that. Yeah, like, you know, like, when this segment, when we after I say what I say, and you say what you say, Stats gonna say, say, that's going to say, well, if it's just too icy to get out the house, you can't blame them for not making it to the game cam. And, you know, things happen.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And, and, and, and what do you expect them to do? Because it's just icy. We're in that world. Where's Jen? What is it? Jen? Why she is Jen? I actually disagree
Starting point is 00:41:05 with this one but I hear you yeah man Jen Z shit it's frozen what is he supposed to do he's seven feet
Starting point is 00:41:13 and he's frozen his his pinky is frostbitten you know what would you like him to do yeah Jen Z shit
Starting point is 00:41:20 and I'm cool with Jen Z don't get it fucked up but it'd be a lot of excuses with Jen Z shit mad excuses man'm cool with Gen Z. Don't get it fucked up. But there'll be a lot of excuses with Gen Z shit. Mad excuses, man.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah, when they on fire, it's, oh, it's a new day. But when there's some struggle, they want every excuse in the book to get out of it. Yeah, and listen. You know, my problem is, it's just the athletes, because Gen Z got the drillers for us. Niggas drilling shit. You know what I'm saying? So it ain't like Gen Z ain't out here doing certain things that need to be done.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It's just some of the athletes. And it's not all of them. John Moran, them niggas dogs. Zion's healthy dogs, nigga. So it's just certain niggas, but I don't know what, I don't even know. Yo, that just, to me,
Starting point is 00:42:07 I don't see ice. I can't see a nigga just slipping his way out the house like, nah, I can't go nowhere, nigga. This is crazy. My bad, Jen. G-Z.
Starting point is 00:42:19 G-Z. Yo, I need to compile a list of things. Gen Z, Gen X, Millennials, and see what y'all think is weird versus not. We're going to have to go a list of things. Gen Z, Gen X, Millennials, and see what y'all think is weird versus not. We're going to have to go through that one day. Yeah, for real, we should. Because I think that would be hilarious.
Starting point is 00:42:31 That would be. It would be. Some things that I probably think is weird, y'all are probably like, yeah, da, da, da. That's a fact. We'll do a list. That's a fact. Whether it be next episode, we'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:42:40 We got to settle this. No, I think you're absolutely right. Because I had an argument. I hate to keep bringing this thing up on the show. My man, since city, he's mad at me cause I don't miss pay phones. He's telling me,
Starting point is 00:42:53 Kim, you don't miss this going to the pay phone. No, I don't. I don't. And then you say, you don't miss smooth magazine with all the girls on it. I said,
Starting point is 00:43:01 man, listen, I ain't gonna lie. I like my iPhone is bitches on there. I can see who I want. I used't going to lie. I like my iPhone. There's bitches on there. I can see who I want. I used to have to jerk off to the Jet Magazine Beauty of the Week
Starting point is 00:43:09 when I was little. I don't want to do that. You don't even know the Jet Magazine Beauty of the Week stat. That was a big deal at one time, man. That's what I had to do.
Starting point is 00:43:19 No, I don't miss that. Mace has no comment. Okay, I will make the list and we'll discuss that opening of one of our shows next, but we're going to go to break. This is my new weed. What'd you say, Mace? This is my new weed. That's part of it.
Starting point is 00:43:33 My bad, Murda. I'm just sad. She pissed me off. I looked at the phone and we all argued with this nigga for three and a half hours because there's no more pay phones in New York. She was crazy and I don't miss Smooth Magazine for the bitches. It is what it is. Hey, we're going to go to break.
Starting point is 00:43:51 When we return, we will talk CJ Stroud's edited post-game interview. Don't go anywhere. She call this thing about toxic Boy isn't counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing hearing I don't know What's happenin' to me won't fall Dealin' with this thing called trust
Starting point is 00:44:32 But she ain't really thinkin' bout it She wanna be free Why am I in this woman's way? She wanna be free Welcome back. So let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. On Sunday, the Bucks will play the Lions. Baker Mayfield is at one and a half passing touchdowns. Do you have him higher
Starting point is 00:45:09 or lower, Cam? Baker Mayfield, higher. Yeah, higher. He gonna definitely need to score points.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Okay. Mike Evans is at four and a half receptions. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Four and a half receptions, higher. have them higher or lower at Mace? Four and a half receptions.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Higher. Higher as well. Okay. And Jared Goff is at 34 and a half passing attempts. Do you have them higher or lower, Cam?
Starting point is 00:45:35 Higher. Lower. Okay. Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. Reading that is funny to me because somebody literally mocked me the other day. They were like, stat, download the underdog fantasy app and you can make your picks too. Guys, I get it. It's part of it. It's part of it. Okay. So NBC is being- Mesa's here Cause you tell them how the aliens And us are trading gold for wifi You on the show We got
Starting point is 00:46:15 We got wifi from them Wait that nigga said we doing business with the aliens? This is him Hold on Start over real quick I said we got our internet and wifi from them with the aliens? Hold on. Start over real quick. I said, we got our internet and Wi-Fi from them
Starting point is 00:46:29 because our planet produces sulfur like no other planet. So we made an agreement. God. So, yeah, they won't teach us how to fly because we'll kill ourselves.
Starting point is 00:46:51 They don't like nuclear bombs, so that's why they're there, all the hot spots, which is Ohio, New York, wherever we keep nuclear bombs, Virginia, wherever we keep nuclear bombs, that's when they come around
Starting point is 00:47:05 when we start bombing each other. Because our planet is the only one that produces sulfur. What's funny? What they need it for, though. What the aliens need it for. I don't know. Last question,
Starting point is 00:47:22 because Mace can't even hear you. I mean, you can't hear him because the speaker's there. Who's conducting the deal with the aliens on our side? Well, we got a special part in the government for that. Not even the president is down with that. There's a special part of the government that's funded by the government. It's called a group book. But only America's involved, not
Starting point is 00:47:45 Asia, not Russia, not... No, no, no, no, no. Everybody got their own thing. Wherever it happens at, they got their own secret society in the government. It's called a blue book. Alright, Mace was just wondering about it, because I told him how we was doing
Starting point is 00:48:02 business with them, and they give us internet, we give them gold, so So we'll discuss it later, man. Thank you for chiming in, man. You can't make this shit up. You can't make this shit up. We're doing business, man. We're trading gold for Wi-Fi. You know that? This nigga. Only a nigga from Harlem.
Starting point is 00:48:39 This is what I'm trying to tell you. It was, yo, bro, three hours of this yesterday, man. I didn't even mean to interrupt the show with this and listen listen you know what's crazy about this
Starting point is 00:48:49 there's gonna be people who watch this and be like yo he's right so there's gonna be six niggas out there somewhere like nah he ain't lying
Starting point is 00:48:57 yeah maybe this is where they get the galaxy phone from. That was good. Yeah. Issues, man. This is where we got the galaxy. That's where the galaxy phone came from.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Oh, shit. My bad, Stat. My bad. I have more questions, but I guess that's for another day. Because even the soldier conversation threw me off. But, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:36 NBC is being accused of editing CJ Stroud's post-game interview cutting out CJ thanking Jesus Christ. So in a side-by-side one edit, he says before the speech, first and foremost, I want to thanking Jesus Christ so in a side-by-side one edit he says before this speech first and foremost I want to thank Jesus Christ and then in the edit after it goes straight to the post-game question so what do you think about the accusations and the videos circulating around of both of the edits please go first uh man this is this is a real interesting one because I will first start by saying
Starting point is 00:50:10 that he has the right to voice who he gives his credit to. It's like somebody asking you, why were you able to perform at such a high level? Some people may say it's because of our law, or some people may say, even if it wasn't a religion, they may say, my mother did this for me. I think to try to redirect anybody's praise or credit is just horrifically wrong, because that's who they got the strength from. If you like the performance, Paul, or what they were able to do, they're telling you how they were able to find that fortitude, how they were able to do this. But I just think that when you're on certain platforms,
Starting point is 00:51:00 they try to control who you even give the credit to because if you give credit to something that's outside of what they desire that credit to go towards, then I have more people looking in that direction. And I think that's the thing is just we just looking at a world that kind of don't respect God in the form of Jesus or that, because if he would have said Allah or anything else, they wouldn't have had a problem with it. It just was a problem because he was speaking on a platform that, that pretty much did not want the name of Jesus really edified. And because he's a athlete, another side of that is that we don't have you here for Jesus.
Starting point is 00:51:46 So that's going to be their argument. We don't want to know about Jesus. We want to know about your physical athletic ability and how you was able to do that physically and athletically and leaving all of religion out. So that's it seemed like the only time people want to leave that out is when it comes to Christianity, because they look at Christianity as a soft religion. They look at Islam and those other religions as something that they have to respect. But that's where I would take that and conclude that. It's a great take. That was really a great take. And that's why I wanted you to go first because you know better than anybody else about this particular topic. What I'll add in and say is that censorship is real
Starting point is 00:52:37 no matter what it is. I'm not even talking about religion. I'm talking about what they want you to hear. What they want you to hear. I remember I did 60 Minutes. And I was like, I'm not fucking talking about religion. I'm talking about what they want you to hear. What they want you to hear. I remember I did 60 Minutes. And I was like, I'm not fucking with snitches, this, that, and the third. And if a murderer been lived by my house,
Starting point is 00:52:52 da, da, I move. They chopped that shit up so bad that I said about... So basically, I did an interview years ago on 60 Minutes. And I was saying, I'm not fucking with snitching. People who snitch. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I remember that. I remember you.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Right, but they chopped it up to, you know, Anderson Cooper and 60 Minutes crew chopped it up to what they wanted to chop it up to. They didn't put in the part that I was saying that telling doesn't necessarily
Starting point is 00:53:19 lead to a conviction. So you're in the neighborhood, a rough neighborhood, doesn't matter if it's Harlem or California or fucking Washington, D.C., whatever. They tell you to tell
Starting point is 00:53:31 and you really don't have any knowledge of the case that goes on. And I'll say what I said to them being that they never aired it. Yeah. I said that you go and say you're a little kid
Starting point is 00:53:42 and you see something happen. Or not a little 15, 16 year old. You see something happen. And because you testify, that doesn't mean you're going to get a guilty verdict. Now the people that you told on, which you had nothing to do with this situation, you have to go face them every day.
Starting point is 00:54:00 And they didn't get convicted, but you went and told on them for some shit that had nothing to do with you. Now you're the tattletale or you're the snitch or you're the whatever. It's consequences behind doing things and you still have to go back to that same neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I'm not sitting here saying today as a grown man, if you have to go tell as an older lady or an older man or something else, cool, but a lot of times if you're stuck in a neighborhood, an urban neighborhood, and you had nothing to do with the situation and you may want to help, I get that. But that doesn't mean you're going to get 100% conviction.
Starting point is 00:54:37 And now you got to look these same killers or robbers or whatever you want to tell in the face because you didn't get convicted. Same thing like what I was saying also, and I said that they had the blue shield. The cops don't tell on each other. The cops do a bunch of foul shit to civilians or citizens and beat the shit out of them. Like, imagine if, and I know this is older as well,
Starting point is 00:55:00 and y'all could Google this, imagine there wasn't any surveillance. And them cops didn't even get convicted after that anyway. But imagine it wasn't any footage of Rodney King getting beat up by 15, 16 cops. If it wasn't any footage of that, it would have been like, yo, he tripped and fell.
Starting point is 00:55:16 That's how he broke his arm, his neck, his leg, his knees, his teeth is out. He just fell down some stairs. That's how it goes. So I just wanted to clear that up because 60 Minutes botched my whole shit up that made me seem like, oh, Cam's just crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:33 They didn't put any of the points that I said behind, any substance behind the points that I said. But it's nobody else better to talk about this particular topic than Mace? And I'll leave that at that. I think he summed it up really well. Yeah, I agree. And I think the thing about CJ Stroud,
Starting point is 00:55:55 he outwardly always talks about his faith and trust in God, which, I mean, as an athlete or whoever you are, you should be able to do that, especially nowadays. It's kind of weird, I think,, because I mean, I believe in God. I think it's weird that people can't outwardly speak on that or it's like, it has to be edited. I think that's very weird because that's part of him. So why should anybody have to hide that?
Starting point is 00:56:16 Just like if you practice Islam and you, like you are speaking to Allah, like if that's what you believe in, that should be allowed. So cutting that out, yeah, they're going to get a lot of heat for it and people are going to call them out. I'm curious as to how they're going to respond to the situation because they might just brush past it. But I think that's not OK. So we will see the results. But I think it's very weird behavior personally. OK, next, it was announced Jason Kelsey is retiring,
Starting point is 00:56:48 but he never shared the news with a reporter. Apparently, it was leaked from a teammate in the locker room after their final game. But how do you feel about the way it was done? If he, did he, did Jason Kelsey confirm that the teammate was right no he never confirmed nor denied anything yes and what did why would the teammate just blurt that out did he get paid extra or does he just want to seem like he gets the information first by jason kelsey i come back off the strength like yo my nigga you don't know if he's retired or not. Look, everybody's saying he was retiring after the game.
Starting point is 00:57:26 He looks pretty old as far as center. You know, this is the guy, Paws, who's hiking the fucking ball to Jalen Hurts. I think he had a tremendous career. If he is retiring, man, salute to you. I think you've done a great job
Starting point is 00:57:42 with the Philadelphia Eagles. And you come from a great football family as far as the teammates concerned I just don't understand why he was said and it's still no confirmation you know these are the stories that I'll be like I don't really want to indulge on it because
Starting point is 00:57:57 it may be a nigga just running his mouth it may have been a nigga in the locker room like me and Mason in the locker room talking like I think I'm going to wrap this shit up. I think I'm going to retire. And then Stat goes running and be like, yo, Cam's retiring. You know, like, yo, he wasn't ear hustling, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:13 what that lead to. You know exactly what that lead to. That's exactly what I heard. Ear hustling. Yeah, man. You know, niggas know the chain of command after you start ear tussling, man. No pillow talking back. You know, niggas know the chain of command after you start here. That's what I get for that.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I think he overheard him talking to somebody else and went and ran his mouth like he had the information first. But if it is the case, I like Travis. I mean, Jason Kelsey. Salute, bro. Great career. I like Travis. I mean, Jason, Kelsey, salute, bro, and great career.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Yeah, I think for him to realistically go out and say that, I definitely would want to know who said it, especially if it's somebody that's on a team. Like, you don't be doing that. Who did that on the Lakers one time? Who was the nigga name that did that, went out and said, yo, you know your man be cheating? Who did that on the Lakers one time? Who was the nigga name that did that? Went out and said, yo, you know your man be cheating. Who did that?
Starting point is 00:59:10 D'Angelo Russell. Yeah, D'Angelo. That's probably why they not winning at the Lakers, man. It's like you don't want somebody around that does that. And especially even if you're a Heisman. Remember Charlie Ward did the same thing. It's it's like bro you can't be doing that like especially spreading secrets of the team because then there's no trust in the locker room and it might be somebody that probably won his position it hustling and putting it out there getting the story going yeah I agree me, that's like hater energy because even when people
Starting point is 00:59:46 like leak somebody's pregnancy, if they told you not to tell somebody, why would you go? Especially if that's like a sentimental moment with y'all, you know, last game of the season. That's just not your business to tell anybody and definitely not a reporter. So weird again.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Last thing before we end the show, Gerard Mayo, the first black coach in Patriots history and now the NFL's youngest coach, said during his introductory press conference, I do see color because I believe if you don't see color, you can't see racism.
Starting point is 01:00:18 What do you think about him saying that during his introductory speech? That's going to be, that's one of those things, if you start out with that kind of explosive statement, you better win. You better win, because you put the bullseye on yourself, Paul, by even making a statement like that. I think some statements are just, you don't have to say to make a grand entrance, but that was definitely a grand entrance. And I wish him the best.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I hope he does very well because that statement needs to be followed up with a lot of wins. Yeah, and look, it's no secret, man. Boston can be racist as a motherfucker. It's for real. That shit is a racist tale, man. Not saying that ain't niggas up there.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Shout out to my niggas, New Edition, that OG and the Bulldogs and everybody at Roxbury and all them niggas and the young and up-and-coming niggas. But Boston is racist, man. And look, even back in the days, niggas... You ain't shout out Benzino. Yeah, Benzino moved, though. days shout out Benzino yeah Benzino moved though shout out to Benzino shout out to everybody up there but that shit
Starting point is 01:01:31 is a racist city like you know even sports related I remember even though they had the chief Robert Parrish and all that it's changed now like it's super duper changed now because you know times went on. But Boston used to be the white team
Starting point is 01:01:47 and the Lakers used to be the black team. That's just the way it used to be. Larry Bird against Magic Johnson, black against white, and that's what made the league move forward. Period. You know, Boston has a tundra of fucking black players since then.
Starting point is 01:02:03 You know, and don't get me wrong. They had Dennis. What was it? Dennis Scott murdered? Dennis? Was it Dennis Scott? Yeah, Dennis Scott. Yeah, Dennis Scott, Robert Parrish.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Reggie Lewis, Scott, Buster Dad. Had a few tokens. Yeah, hit some token, niggas. But just as a city overall, it's known to be pretty racist. but just as a city overall, um, it's known to be pretty racist and hopefully it isn't like that today, but I'm pretty sure racism is everywhere. And you being a nigga coaching the Patriots, making that statement,
Starting point is 01:02:39 Mesa, that shit right. You better win and win fast, nigga. Expeditiously, T.I. voice. run and win fast, nigga. Expeditiously, T.I. voice. You better run fast, nigga. You do not get a big window.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Run in your mouth like that. You know he wasn't there with his mother. His mother would have told him, don't go up there and say what you thinking. Yeah, exactly. Do not. Yeah, he must have had his Yeezys on, nigga. You got to be careful up there talking that shit with racism, exactly. Do not. Yeah, he must have his Yeezys on, nigga. You got to be careful up there talking that shit with racism.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Right now, they ain't going to make it racism, but you better win. I'll tell you that. Yeah, my mother would have slapped me in the back of my head when I came off there. Why did you go up there and say that? Yeah. And when he being up, first of all, up there is one of the worst places to say it. It ain't like you in New York or Philly,
Starting point is 01:03:31 nigga. You went up there and said it. Bugging, nigga. You better win. He went in his DeJingo bag, boss. You got to be careful, man. Well, salute to him. He is making history and he's standing on business
Starting point is 01:03:47 with his views. So we'll see what happens next season. Stand on business until it goes wrong. Stand on business. Yes. Yeah, that nigga will be
Starting point is 01:03:58 standing in the unemployment line. He don't fucking win. I'm telling you that much. He got a certain amount of time to get that shit done. Don't listen to Stats. Stats gonna set y'all up for failure.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Never that. Never that. And y'all, I'm gonna come back with this list so we can discuss it next episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:17 But that's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.

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