IT IS WHAT IT IS - JARRELL MILLER TELLS US WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE TOUPEE, DRAMA IN DALLAS FOR FLAGG & THE WORST WAYS TO DIE!

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

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locking your bonus and start playing today with code. It is what it is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Statt Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Cam. Killer, what's going on, man? Murder was good. How are you today, man? Man, I'm doing good, doing really, really good.

How are you doing? I'm good. I can't complain, man. And you Statt? I'm great. I'm a little sore, though. I went snowboarding. The first time I've only seen snow like three times in my life.

I don't know if you guys have ever done it, but like don't fall so much because I feel like I got beat up. But that's the one thing I will say. You tried it. You tried it, huh? Yeah, I'm happy I did, though. It was like a new thing. You never went snowboarding skiing, like none of this? Skying, but not snowboarding.

Snowboarding can be like really probably equivalent, dangerous. Yeah, it was a lot. Cam, have you been snowboarding, skiing, any of the things? I try skiing once and I'm not doing it no more. And then I like snowmobile and I haven't tried snowboarding. But murder. Yeah. I don't think that we just count stat.

Like, it really doesn't count. She went to manufactured snow. Oh, my goodness, that. Well, first of all, you can't tell manufactured snow versus real snow. I wouldn't know that. When I went there, it felt real to me. Were you like at a Truman show snow? It was like a legit like snow thing.

It wasn't fake to me. You because you didn't grow up in snow. There's a, like, don't know. How do you know? How do you know you was in snow, though? What did they paint? If it's a legit mountain and there's snow all over the place, how am I supposed to know if is real or fake?

Oh my goodness, that. You never cease to amaze me. you know, like, she said, I was supposed to know it was fake. It's all cold. Was it cold? Like, yes. Then it turned in water after a while? Yeah.

No. Then it wasn't snow. Look, I had a time. I wouldn't know if it was manufactured snow or not. So shout out to the snow park because I had a good time. That's all it matters. Okay. So let's get into this NBA All-Star list.

So the reserves have been announced. I'm going to read the West versus the East. Just want you guys' thoughts on the reserves. And I have some specific questions before we move on. So in the West, they got for the reserves, Denny, Devin Bucer, Kevin Durant, Anthony Edwards, Chet, LeBron James, and Jamal Murray. And on the East, they got Scotty Barnes, Jalen Duren, Jalen, Jalen, Jalen, Johnson, Donovan Mitchell, Norman Powell, Pascal Seaccombe, and Carl, Anthony Towns. Just initial reaction, Mace. What is your reaction to the All-Star list?

We liken it. We're not liking it. And then just going into All-Star Weekend, which is coming soon. What do we think? This All-Star List is crazy. It feels like it's definitely got some seniority to it. This is the first year that I would actually say that they missed out on a lot of people when it came to this All-Star List.

And I think they just went with the names they know. you know, like, you know, you get to this year, this is LeBron's 22nd year at All-Star, and you just like, we got, I would have thought they would have made LeBron a starter. You know, it feels weird to even see LeBron on a reserve list, and Cam says I'm normally hating on LeBron. This lets you know I'm not hating on them, Cam, I just call it, do what I see it. And when I see Shea Giltrish, I mean, Gilchrist, how you say his name? Shea Gilgildedish.

Shea Gilges at Guard as well as Stefan Curry. Those are the usual suspects, but now that you got Don't Luca there, it just seems like She messed the all-star up for a lot of people because you're so used to seeing Anthony Edwards in the starting lineup, people like that. And it just lets you know that the times are changing. And when you have a time to do something, you've got to do it because next year is not guaranteed to be the same thing.

It can be a new hotness. be somebody new that comes along. Take that spot. That spot is not yours. You got people like James Harton that's not even in the all-star. On the all-star team is crazy. How do you not have big game James there?

This is crazy for me. It's weird to even look at. And this is a guy that's scoring 25 points a game and then make the All-Star. It lets you know that the, what do they call it, the bots? and the people that vote online, it's starting to make a difference.

You want me to say? I don't know. They made it. The reason why this is weird to me is that it doesn't matter. So you get the 10 people who start, who's voted in by like Macea said, the fans. And then you got the reserves. But it really don't matter.

This is just all like for the sake of saying, who made it as a startup? who made it as a reserve, when it's not going to be like that. The teams are not diced up like this. So when you say it's the West Allsar Reserves and the East Wallsar Reserves, it doesn't necessarily have to be like that because it's three different teams. You know what I'm saying? So what's the sense of doing this just to say,

y'all made it as a starter, if Luca and Steph Curry's not, and Shay Gilles says it's not going to be on the same team anyway. What's the use of announcing it? So you should say, be like, this is the West Coast starters. We made, we made it,

I get it if you want to say, well, I made it as a starter. But Luca and stuff is not playing together. I told, we talked about this last week. I think the system is wow. I think you should name the starters

for who are starting on the team that they're actually going to play for. So we're talking about the American team. Who's the starting five on the American team? What's that answer? Because that's who's really the team. Yeah, and I- Who's your Sart 5 on the world team?

Because that's the real team. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. That's my question. And then it's like they made this team and they put Denny up there. And, you know, Denny is doing this thing. But I really thought that should have been Sagan.

That's how you say his name? Sagoon. I really thought that it should be Sagoons spot. And I know some people may disagree with me on that, but I really have. Sagoon being on this all-star team. It just feels weird that he's not on this team. I don't know.

I don't know another way to look at it. And when you look at Jamal Murray, this is his first all-star game. That's wild in itself. So, you know, it's going to be a lot of hard, a hard all-star weekends for the West Coast because they're only going to get more people. I could think about, like, at least for the people that should be on this team. Kowah Leonard is not up here. It's just crazy, you know, but he's still letting him know.

I guess now he's getting a message. Even though you're playing well, you're not playing enough games and people have caught on to it. The low management, that's probably why they didn't vote him in because he's having a hell of a season. It seems like he's scoring more than he's ever, you know, scored as a clipper, not as an NBA player, but as a clipper is like crazy. This is like one of his best seasons. point-wise, and he's not even on an all-star team.

How do you make right of that? Just curious, because Kauai was a big person that a lot of people were really upset about, in your opinion, because I know you bring him up and that's a really good point. Who would you have put him in place of? I wouldn't have him on this team. I would have, let me back up,

I would have James Hardin on this team. I definitely don't see James discontinuing his, is, you know, his streak of being an all-star. If you're going to hold people's legacy up there, hold his up there because he's actually averaging more than LeBron at this point. And the clippers have been playing very well. I might add. And then, Cam, did you have one more point before we move on?

Just wanted to make sure. I'm out of the all-star business till I see what goes on, man. I don't like it. I don't like it because it don't make sense. Yeah. You should have noticed the starters on the three teams to start because you're confusing people. I understand what's going on, but naming the East and West starters is not conducive to how the format is being laid out.

So I understand that you're asking who should be there, who shouldn't be there. Who's on the American team, period? That's just that. That's the question. Who's on the World Team? It's two American teams. Who's slicing and dice in that? It's an East West, it's an East Coast American team or West Coast American team, I guess, and then the World Team.

But the way they're announcing it, and I hate to. keep repeating myself, you're announcing Americans with the same people that's on the real team. I just don't want to talk about to us. I see, I'm really disappointed in the NBA product that we're getting for the last couple years. And then also with the new TV deals that they're doing,

I know they're bringing more money to the NBA, but it's hard to find an NBA game. You say it's on NBC. You get two games a night on NBC. We watch the first game, but then the second game, you've got to go to Peacock to watch it. Another game coming on. Amazon Prime. Another game's coming on ESPN.

I understand Adam Silver is trying to make more money and getting more money for the NBA. I totally get it. But nobody's downloading 12 apps. I don't like the process at the moment. Yeah, it's not like the old system with that geriatric.

It's like, it really doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's a lot going on. Hopefully they figure it out because we're trying to watch these games. That's just that. Okay, so moving along, Dremont Green actually went about a ref to the press after receiving his 10th tech of the season. He said, I find it very ironic that I got a technical foul for telling a Caucasian referee

not to put his hand in my face. As a black man in America, don't put your hand in my face. Ace, thoughts on his reaction. I know we hear a lot from Draymond, what do you think? When Draymond says this, right, the fact that he's mentioned, that he's a Caucasian referee. It's already troubling. It's very troublesome

because that means in his mind he's still thinking racist, right? He's still thinking, like, I wouldn't care if it's a Hindu man. If he put his hand in your face, it's just a no-goat no matter who it is. So the mere fact that he's bringing up, a Caucasian man says that in his mind,

he's really trying to rage bait us. I think as commentations, and people who do a lot of, what do you call it when you're, like you're speaking on sports as an analyst. He's trying to rage bait us and separate us on race, which people do very well. But I caught it as soon as you said it, Paul, is that he's up here saying, well, as a Caucasian man, now he's saying as a black man, when realistically anybody put the hand in your face should merit the same response.

It's not like, will you reponse? will you respond differently if there's a Salvadorian man that put his hands in your face, every guy is going to get the same result. So I'm not going for it. He almost got me to jump on the blackfish train, but I'm not going to do it. I'm not doing that early this morning. And all of you watch out for that. Whenever somebody come to you and say, as a black man,

you're trying to get all of us. You know, almost had me go from gray to all black, you know what I'm saying? Black Lives Matter. No, you can't do that early in the morning, man. Go ahead, killer. I had the same take. It didn't matter the race. Salvadorian, Colombian.

Somebody put their hand in your face, to me, it doesn't really matter. The race, they're invading your personal space. and Mace laid it out perfectly far. I think that Draymond, like if anybody put their hands in his face, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, what I think he's doing is putting another 10 on two by throwing Caucasian in it too. Like, yo, yo, because you know,

because you know what a nigger is saying? A niggas say, first of all, nobody can put their hands in my face, for the white man? Yeah, that's exactly what he was trying. And he knew the listeners were probably going to be African-Americans, so no matter if he's right or wrong to other people, he thought he had a crowd in us.

And he doesn't. Listen, anybody that does that, who is that Adrian Brona? And the words of the late great Adrian Brona, not that he's dead, but, you know, great Adrian Brunner, American, Puerto Rican, you know, any man can, you know, get the same smoke. Pause if he put his hands in your face. That's that.

There's really nothing more to talk about. I totally agree with Mason. I was going to be my take of Mason and say it. It doesn't matter, race. I think Draymond, I'm like, well, anybody, like somebody putting their hands in your face. but it's definitely you're definitely going to get the black fish gang

on your side and then you're scared this is what they've been doing to us yeah all that kind of talk yeah this is what they've been doing to us how long do we have to keep going through this not respecting man

I feel like three fourths three fifths of a man all that kind of talk You're definitely going to get people thinking like this. And I think he really thought about this. Draymond, that was good. You said that on Black History Month. He waited the Black History Month to pull us out.

Isn't it February? Yeah. Definitely is. We two days in, and Draymond is already using it. Let's go. You got to know your audience when you're talking. And this was a good place to put it right here on February. February 3rd.

Draymond pulls this out. I mean, we're talking about it on February 3rd. What a great way to start of Black history much with a Caucasian man putting this hand in your face. But you're not going to do this because we blackety black all my. Did we even make any progress? All that type of talk. Did we make any progress? since they're walking over the bridge

and all of that. What was the name of that bridge? It was Sam something. They went over the bridge, Salma. Yeah, did we make any progress in Salma? That's where you should have went, Draymond. You was missing Selma.

At least. My grandma. My grandmother had a man put his hand in her face, and that was in Selma. That was the last time we went for that. And Draymond would have been justified. He'll ruffle a lot of feathers, you know. But he got to remember the people that cut his check, they probably talk to him and put their hands in his face. Draymond, I'm going to need you to calm down.

Did he say this to Steve Kerr is the question. It's probably different energy. You don't know. Different energy? Dremont. Stad is over here saying you don't do that to Steve Kerr when he put his hand in your face. Or Steve Kerr would not do it. I don't know.

Yeah, Steve Kerr might be shook or Draymond. I don't know. Might not happen. But Mike Donleavy, yeah, they probably don't put the hands in his face. They know. He said, you ain't going to try me. At least Raymond's consistent. We kind of, that response is a Jermon response.

So. Yeah. Yeah, he didn't even work with Joe Dumas. Joe Dumas is as diplomatic as they come, killer. And he talked to Joe Dumas pretty much the same way. Well, moving along from Draymond, now we're going to get to the Mavs. So Mavs coach Jason Kidd is facing heat over Cooper flags point guard usage.

He said, I don't give a fuck about the criticism. Criticism, that's your opinion. You guys write that bullshit. That's not. I've done this. I've played this game. I played it at a very high level. I know what the F I'm doing.

And he said the criticism only makes him better. So clearly he was very heated and a lot of people are going to tell a coach how they feel their players should be being used. But Mace, what's your opinion on what Jason Kade had to say? And then just Cooper Flagg in general and how he's been playing with the maps. I'm going to let Cam go first on this one.

Pause. Killer, what do you think about it? Crashing out, bro. Jason Kidd crashing out, bro, because they're not doing it. the Cooper flag and point guard shit is not working. And when you say you did

this at a high level, yes, you did as a player. As a coach, not so much. Don't get me wrong, you had injuries and so on and so forth. I'm not saying Jason Kidd isn't a good coach. We know he's an outstanding player. Hall of Fame or one of the best point guards

to ever play the game. But the Kupa Flag experimented and point guard just isn't working. and a lot of people like, you know, it'll make it better when Karee comes back and this and find all these excuses and and it's just not working out.

Like look, Mirdo, we grew up watching Jason Kier, right? Talking about from high school, we know about Jason, this is how good Jason Kidd was. Like, you know, we grew up with no internet and nothing, the niggas knew who Jason Kidd was. You usually don't know about other kids from other states unless they back good. You know what I'm saying?

So we watched him from high school to now. And he's always been a mild-manate fellow. For him to be on the podium cursing, and saying, I know what the fuck I'm doing. Because I actually seen the clip, and I'm like, oh, this niggas crashing out. It is bad in Dallas, man. It is really bad in Dallas.

I don't think the Cooper Flag and Point Guard experiment is working out. It's Cooper Flagg Outstanding player? Hell he is. He's going to be a great player? Absolutely. but he you know this is more alluding to him playing point guard I'm not saying that one guy he can play point guard but even like LeBraw right he's a point forward

you're trying to make him run the offense and starting and maybe because the team isn't doing that you're saying excuse me the team isn't going to do it like fuck it let them try it now because we're not winning like that anyway I don't think you but as a rookie the first time you played point guard is in the NBA. Like, you know what I'm saying? If you want to take it to be a point guard,

I don't think you learn on the fly in the middle of this season at the start of the season. It's going to take some time to be a point guard. As much as I, look, we play basketball, right? Like, I'm six feet

or 5-11, 6 feet, whatever. If I was 6-5, I'd probably be in the NBA. Because I can play point guard. I can play, I've actually had to play point guard because of my height. But I'm more nationally, like a two guard.

You know what I'm saying? But because of my height, I had to play point guard. Mason's a better point guard than me. You know what I'm saying? If I was 6, 4, 6, 5, I would have been out of here. But I'm not. But I had to play point guard. It's not an easy position to play.

It may seem easy, but we ought to run the office is not an easy position to play. And I think that's what's going on. And I think that's why Jason, kid is getting so much criticism because he's not going away from it. It's one of situations where when you be like, Like, yeah, I don't think, I don't know a good, something to relate it to, but it's like something, one of those situations where you so deep pause in the situation that you can't turn back from it in there.

Because you're going to look like maybe I shouldn't have did this when you kept doing it. So that's my opinion on that. Yeah, this is too far gone, actually. But I want to look at this from a different perspective. Everything you said was spot on. When you think of Jason Kidd growing up in San Francisco, you know, close to Oakland, he already had this kind of vibe in him. It's just the laybackness of the West Coast, I think, has been present for so many years.

He's been so groomed. Paul's in a good way as a basketball phenom that he always had this great media, even when he had issues, you know, off the court. you never really saw Jason Kidd rattled in any kind of way. I mean, basketball off the court. And he has a few moments. So to see him like really explode here, Paul's is a real telling sign. Like, this is, this is cool of all of the cools, right?

This is a guy that just walks up, been through things, Jimmy Jackson, just all of these type of issues. And we never seen Jason Kidd like out of, out of, pocket, right? And this is, this is just a real telling sign because when you see him seeing this and cursing in this man in the, in the press conference, you can only imagine what he's thinking. Like, y'all, y'all making me play this guy at point guard at a, at a position, I understand so well. That's another thing that's frustrating. When you're watching somebody play the position that you play the wrong way, it's even more, it's even more like, um, like just gruesome to watch and irritating and all of the other words that comes with that. And, and he's just thinking, no,

he's not running this right. Like you said, he could have been a point a point forward, but you got him bringing up the ball and, and setting up the plays. And he doesn't look this set up the play. Like if you watch him play, he's bringing up the ball like, like we're playing in a YMCA or LA Fitness. He's bringing up the ball to get his shot. He's not even thinking really about anybody else. And that's just made for a terrible team, even when Kyrie comes back. But I know what they're thinking, get him going. If we get him going, scoring a lot of buckets early in his career, it'll be that much easier when it's time for him to play as a second option or they might want to keep him as the first option. And I think at this point, Jason Kidd does

I think he's a first option, or else he wouldn't be cursing. And that's another problem when you went all in and you did all of this to get him. And you got rid of my best player. To go work on a player, we already had a hot white boy. Why would you, why would you can him for the future white boy? And we don't know if this is going to pan out 10 years from now. It could turn out. We know what Luca is right now.

I just think it was a poor decision. Jason Kidd wasn't in on it. He feels slighted on that. And this is just the brunt of that slight. Good. Right down from both of y'all. Okay, so now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. Two nights.

The Nuggets will play the Pistons. Underdog has Yokic at 23 and a half points. Do you have them higher, lower Mace? Hi, this is Yokish. This is the Joker, man. Are you serious? We got to go. We haven't been talking about Joker this year as much,

but Jokka is. still Joker, no matter how you want to look at it. Okay. Camp. Joker was hurt for a little while. That's why before he got hurt, number of the average and triple double number of years being a Joker, he's out for a few weeks, but yes, I'm going

higher as well. Okay. Jamal Murray's at 22 and a half points. You have him higher, lower cam. Lower. Yeah, lower. And Cade Cunningham's at 24.5 points. Do you have him higher, lower, Mace? All right. He got to keep his name hot, you know, they're saying he wanted him one, so he got to go crazy. And he's from the family of number two, so what could I say?

Okay, Pam. I think he's going to play good, but I think it's going to be low. Okay. Make sure you all download the Underdog app and you can make your picks too. We're going to go to break. When we return, we will be back with a special guest. Don't go anywhere. That's life, nigga, life, nigga.

That's life, Nick, life, nigga. Welcome back. So today, y'all, we got a special guest. He just won his fight versus Kingsley in Madison Square Garden from Brooklyn, New York. We got Gerald Miller. Gerald, welcome to the show. How you feeling? How you doing?

Ooh, what's up, big dog? What's up? What's so, what's so? What's so, Kim? How are you guys doing? Chilling, man. It's good, bro. Thanks for joining the show, bro.

Appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thanks for having me. How are you going to come on with your head on? Paul, you got to take your head off. I'm waiting for y'all. I'm waiting for y'all. You know what I mean? Do the introduction. First you got to say, Gerald, Big Baby Miller, the proper way. And I'm like, I got you. Let's go. All right, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. No, we do it because you're the winner. So you, what you say goes. Okay. So he just won his fight versus Kingsley in Madison Square Garden. He is 27 to 1 with two draws. We got Gerald Big Baby Miller in the building. Gerald, how you feeling? How you doing?

I feel great. Yeah. Ah, B-K in the house. What's on? What's up, man. We're here. We're here. We're here.

H-A-R. We're here. We're here. Oh, man. So I feel like we just got to cut straight to it. You got to walk us through exactly what happened. Like, I know that's not a moment that you could prepare for when you were in the ring, but what was going through your head?

Because I know you locked in. You're trying to win this fight as you did. So talk to us about what happened. I mean, first, first I got to get to the point of even getting a damn two page. You know what I mean? Like, I can't even get to the boxing ring yet. You know, like I have here. Like, I have natural here.

But, you know, the last week. So I've been putting a lot of the Beijing and putting the black spraying from a barber and back in Miami and I didn't wash it out for like two, three days just putting a du rag over and going to sleep and when I washed it out, a lot of my head just broke right off

and it was like pitchy patchy and you see a big spot in the middle of my head and I was like, man, I ain't trying to fight like this so you know me and my cousin's driving, we in Queens and I get to New York doing the press running all that with my do rag on and I'm just like your cousin I do not want to fight like this. He's like yo my man got to

pieces. I said, but you mean got the pieces. And my man got the joints. He got the whole, the two-paid. I was like, yo, bet that's calling out. Let's go see what he can do. So we go over there and he said, yo, I ain't looking good, but I think I could do something with it. So I said, I bet, you know, he slapped the piece on, sort of doing his shape up and, hell, the shit came out of fire. I ain't going to lie. So I think it was going to hold up. So I'm talking to him like, yo, this shit really going to hold up? He's like, yo, I put the double reinforcement on it. My man put the tape and all that.

Then he got the paintbrush with the glue And he was like I swear he thought he was painting a wall The way he was painting my head with his damn glue And he patted down and squeezing and all that I thought yo This shit really gonna hold up Nah I didn't hold up

My own boy was trying to murk my shit I ain't even gonna lie to you But long story short Now we get to the fight You know anything looking good I'm walking like Mike Tyson Yeah I'm feeling good I'm feeling great

Yo all I know is my leg was in movement I'm getting hit with a one two I'm getting duff left and right I had a crowd going, ooh. And I feel a draft in my scalp, but I'm like, nah, I don't think it came up yet. But then it's not until I sat down on the chair. In between rounds, my coach usually giving me instructions,

but he usually don't stutter. Next thing I know, he's like, yo, you're getting your ass, well, his eyes is on me, but then he look up. He's like, listen, man, you have to do something. Y'all looking good right now. I'm so, fuck, he keep looking at that vote. So I'm like, yo, did this damn, did this damn toupee come off my head?

And I'm like, man, I can't tell me sure, of course, right? So I'm like, if I look at a jumbotron and I see this damn toupee up on a replay, yo, I'm washed right now. So I look up and showing up the replay, we show the two pay, everybody in the crowd going, oh, I'm like, yeah, I just played myself. So I just told God, I said, you know what, we're going to run with this shit, WWE style. As soon as I got up, I took the rip the toupee up and threw into the crowd, the crowd went crazy, and I said, all right, fuck it.

The worst is done is getting this wind now because I can't get my ass whoop and get my weight pushed back. Yeah, yeah. That was the thing on the internet. They kept saying he got his cap pill back. But I wouldn't ask you a question. When it comes to a two pays and what is that? What's the difference between a two pay and a man unit?

What is the difference? So they actually the same thing from what I'm understanding because Alex is my first one. So the toupee It's something people just put down on their head But the man unit Now is like I guess it's more of a Manly way of this saying as a toupee

Because basically the same shit for what I'm hearing It's not a weed But it's a man unit So it's the same thing bro Same thing, same thing Same thing Yeah because what I was thinking about was When you see a lot of

When I saw like a lot of people Like that's around my age right And they start popping and I went braids like pop smoke. I was wondering, I said, man, ain't, ain't no way. My hair don't grow that large, you know? So that fast, fast.

Yeah, and that fast. So I was wondering, how his niggas getting brazed all the way down here, told him I day it brazed down here. But now it makes sense. You let me know what was going on. Listen, little Durk did it too, man. He had dreads one day, then he had a season of next and then went back to dread.

So, I mean, listen, man. I feel that's where you come from and if you want to ride, what are you going to ride with it, man? I was like, you know, I'm tired of this shit. I had to take the L-phone moment and you go with that W. Cam, I'm going to get you a flat-top man unit

so you could have the flat-top used to play basketball with that we used to play, you know? May they already saying you got a man unit. I'm just telling you was going to have a man-unit. I ain't going to lie. Listen, yo, fast.

You know, you, you know, Mace, you know, Mace, ways to that was in the Mexican school.

That's real hating right there. I feel it, you know. Nigger's been that smooth that long. I'm going to hate on that nigga, too. I don't like that nigga.

If you're going to recommend that for me, how are you going to get it for me if you ain't got the plug? I mean, you got the plug already, murder. You can go. I got it. I wish I'd give you my plug

My plug is M-I-A right now As soon as this shit went viral You've been looking for it I need a refund Yeah My competitor He must got the plug Yeah

Killer Is a lady Is a lady named Mickey In Houston She's supposed to be The most fire one But I couldn't sit there And let somebody glue my head

I mean killer You gotta remember When we grew up I had the ball head anyway So I don't have no problem you know, getting a one Caesar or I'm not doing all that. I just get a ball head

with a cowboy hat. I'm just saying, why do you know Mickey and Houston that? Uh-huh. Why do you know Mickey and Houston? Because you have to know when I used to look at Steve Harvey, I used to wonder how this need

get his lines so straight. And if I had one, my line would be straighter. My line is not straight as I would like it to be. Mace, I asked you one question, how do you know about Mickey and Houston? Oh, I just told you. I said because Steve Harvey and people like that, they would have their joints so straight. I used to wonder how James, what's his name, Jamie Fox and all of them.

So other words, you're saying you Googled where Steve Harvey got his man unit from after. You seen there was a man unit? That's what I'm saying. I know Steve Harvey got a man unit, but I didn't check the background and it was Mickey and Houston. Killer, when niggas. Killer, when niggas lie to me, I do my research. I like to know what I'm talking about. Whenever I say something, I like to know what I'm talking about.

So when niggas try to go back and forth pause, I know I can stand on what I'm saying because I know for sure. I know what to look for. I know why. If I had a main unit, my dream would be like super fire. It ain't super fire, you know? Your stat, do you think he should know who Mickey and Houston is if he has nothing to do it?

I should know everything. I'm an expert, killer. I'm an expert. I'm an expert at everything I do. Research. Research. Research development. Right, Carol, right.

No, listen what I'm telling you. Anything deal with fashion, I know about it. If you ask me where do you get the glasses from? If you ask me where should you go? It's just like girls that get BBLs, right? You should know where the best of everything is if you're going to have best life. I don't know how else you want me to tell you, Killer. You're preparing, prepare.

The comments, hold on, the comments are going to tell you about tomorrow. They're going to tell you. They're going to let you know right in the morning. They're going to let you know. I'm free from the comments. I wore a silver, shiny suit on national TV. I don't care what a Negro thing. I never been that way.

You know Mickey from Houston is fine with me. I just was asking why you know Mickey from Houston. from music. I'm giving another plug because if somebody else is out here and they're going to do a Big Baby Davis, they might as well go with the person that does it the best.

Yeah, I would love to hear a story about your conversations. Big Baby. I don't like the... First of all, congratulations on the way. I don't like you... Appreciate you. I don't like you throw a little dirt in there.

I don't like... I'm going to be a little bit. I don't like you. I don't like to throw everybody else. That's a fucking-up. If you're going to put people in that situation, you're going to throw a little dirt in it. So, I know you're a real nigga,

but I'm going to keep it on it. That was a long story. The Beijing made your hair fall out. It was crazy. Yo, yo, how long it took you to come up with that story? Man, it's real story, man. I got to lie about, man. Listen, if I went through all this bullshit,

you think of a lot of you about some Beijing, trust me. man I ain't got no time about that shit at this point I just gave up I said fucking we're gonna ride the waves and clearly it worked out right now for this so hey I ain't got to rely about the beige man but if you do see me

with a hit if you see me some waves like Mace next week then you know where it comes from I'm just saying Mickey and Houston yeah I'm gonna pull it up for you yo listen man I've seen you I've been following for a minute

is this the heaviest you ever been coming into a fight? No, and I was heavy. I was like 233 when I first came. By 245, when I first came back from my layoff, then 233, and the fight before this was 305. But I was too, it was kind of the fight this kind of came on last minute. I was give me something to get the rust off. And we came in at 317.

I read at 309. But the last week, man, it was just so cold in New York, doing press conference and running around. I have put that actually 10 pounds back on, man. But I don't feel like it was really the weight, man. It was really just being out of the ring for so long, man. And sometimes, you know, you're just not 100% focused way he wanted to. I was going through a lot in the back with dealing with contracts, a lawsuit, getting rid of my promoter.

He being my ex-promot who's being a scumbag trying to, you know, stop the fight, still money. You know, boxing is a dirty game. I know y'all come from the music game. But, you know, boxing is 10 times worse than the music game, bro. Like, at least y'all might be famous and broke in boxing and shit. We broke no fame and brain have brain dead. So messed up sports sometimes, man. So it took a lot out of me mentally just to get the ring.

No, I was saying because I've seen you look a lot better. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And you mentioned it might be some ring rust, but you came away with the victory. You know, following your career earlier, the reason I became a fan of what you were. doing this because, you know, I don't know if, you know, we don't know each other, but I don't know if that's your

personality or sometimes you're trying to sell a fight or sometimes you're trying to get a fight. Like when you ran down on Severn in the gym and Shannon Briggs had to break it up, you know what I'm saying? Was that really you really didn't like the nigga? Or was that something to say, a nigga, let's go get this

fight, let's make this money. Was that just your personality when you see other boxes? You don't fuck with them like that. Yeah, yeah. No, 100%. That's how I still am till the day. I just let shit just go sometimes. But I was actually in bed one night, and Stavrim was popping shit with another fighter named,

what's his name, man? I forgot his name, man. Damn, my man, my man, man, man, man. I was like, I told my manager, book my flight, I'm going out there. So the next day I jumped on a plane, I went to Florida, and I ran up on him in the gym. I was like, we get on right now.

You know what I mean? But, you know, that's how I always am. Yeah, I still do the same shit. I run down on everybody, man. But at this time right now, you know, boxers do got to communicate right now because if we don't communicate and talk about the money on the table

we keep getting jerked around you know what I mean so a lot of fires that don't usually get along with I'm in communication now like hey this is what I'm hearing is on the table what you're hearing and we're trying to up the numbers now

so you know it's good for business you know when the contract is signed we go back to hating each other until after the fight you know what I mean because all that matters we got to get that check for our family you know but I'm still the same way you push my buttons

I'm running you over. That's what's up. So I see, like, you and Jared Anderson have the same nickname. Is that somebody you want to fight? Do you like a nigga running around with the same nickname? How do you feel about that nickname? I mean, 100%. You know what I mean?

It's so funny because I had a brief conversation with him today out of the blue. You know what I mean? Just, you know, kind of checking on him a little mentally. But, you know, because, you know, box a tough game. I definitely want to fight him at one point, you know what I mean? But sometimes when you hear certain things about people, it's not even about want to knock him out or want to beat him because he got my name. I just want to make sure he's good.

You know what I'm trying to say? Because some things we hear about another brother younger than me, before we talk about fighting and knock each other out, I want you to be in the right head space. So yeah, I feel some kind of way about him having an aim. But right now, I know, you know, he's not in the best space right now. So I wouldn't want to really, you know, try to brash him or not like that. or try to get on his neck or not like that.

When he's ready to come back to boxing, then we can definitely put that in motion. But right now, you know, I just want the brother to be all right, you know, and get out of his contractional feud that he got going on right now and get back to the bag, you know? Now, that's what's up. But on a positive note, you know, we know that you have the Big Baby Kids Foundation

against bullying. Could you elaborate on that? Oh, yeah, man. So I started a foundation a few years ago. I used to have a gym in New York and the story of Queens. We had about 30, 50 kids. We trained for free, getting free memberships. And when I moved to Florida, I had stopped the program.

But now I'm getting some momentum again. I had a foundation that opened in Florida in 2023. Now I want to kind of do it again. You know, I want to open up. Get five acres, five or ten acres, man. Get a four to five thousand square foot barnum, you know, deck it out with all the best equipment, get some inner city kids, some programs come down. Start a whole training camp, you know.

Teach kids about farming. and just get outdoors, man, to go away from the computer, get away from the phones, and just have a weekend to come out, just train, have fun, and also get the pros down there because sometimes the pros

want to get away from the city life too. So it'd be a good mix and mingle with the pros and the kids to kind of see their idols in the gym training and get them inspirational words, man, and confidence, you know, because, you know, you can't be confident, you've got to be confident in this world

to kind of deal with the hurdles. And, you know, you guys are from New York, so you know how it be, man. Everything will go bad in a New York minute, you know, one minute you, one minute you hear, one minute you're not. You know what I mean? And clearly, one minute you hear and one minute you're not.

You know what I mean? So, shit, that's life. Go with the punches. Now, that's what's something. I don't know if Mace have anything else to finish I with, but I just want to tell you, congratulations. Welcome back. Thank you, brother. I know niggas looking for your, Barbara. I guess you'll see

Mickey in Houston. Yeah. And my barber is Tariq Mallet. He actually cuts on, on like real famous sets. And he doesn't really use enhancement. So that just for the record. And if you're doing anything with the foundation, whenever you start, feel free to let me know

I definitely will love to help out for whatever you're doing. I appreciate your brother. Appreciate your brother, yeah, man. We got to up and running. We've got to have paperwork done again, a 513C. We're getting active about tomorrow. And we're going to start pumping it some more, man,

because, you know, just want to be around good vibes, man. And unfortunately, you know, for me, always being around kids, you know, I got four, three kids of my own, I'm about to say, for Lord of Amherst. I got three kids of my own. I got about shit. I got a hundred and some cousins, you know, just in New York alone. So, I mean, being around kids always motivate me when I'm in the gym for the simple fact that you're looking up to you.

And it's always a good vibe, man. Kids are honest of hell, you know what I mean? You guys are honest, man. A kid who comes with me, your baby, you fat as shit. What are you doing? You know what are you talking about? So, you know, I love being around kids because honest, genuine, just truth

when you're around them, man, it's always a good vibe. So, you know, when I'm in New York, I train the cops and kids in Brooklyn, which is in the bottom of the project and flat bush when I'm home. You know what I mean? It's nothing but bad asses kids in the neighborhood. But I would choose that any day

than being in a flashy gym, man, and that's where I get my grit from. It's being home and just being in the hood sometimes. It's training. That's what's up. Congratulations. I'm welcome back, brother. Yeah, congratulations again.

Thank you, man. I appreciate you guys. And I also just want to add, too, like I think it's really dope that, because obviously it was a viral moment, like just like your demeanor and how you're just cool about it and you're like, I am who I am and I'm going to keep doing what I do. Like, I think that's really

dope so salute to you because a lot of people, when situations happen, they just don't really there's not a right way to act, but like you are just you and I think that's dope. So keep doing you, rooting for you, congratulations, and then just you want to tell the audience where can they follow you and say up to date with what you got going on next?

Hey man, just following me. B-I-G-B-A-B-B-Y-M-L-L-E-R. That's Big Baby Miller, Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, you know, we're going to get the Twitch going. Man, let's follow it your boy, man. If you want to be entertained and see me beat people up, just tune in, man. Make sure y'all go ahead and follow Big Baby Miller. Make sure y'all show some love. But now we got to get to Caitlin Clark.

So while Caitlin Clark was taking part in NBA coverage for NBC, she was live on broadcast with Reggie Miller. So Maria Taylor asked Reggie Miller if there was an NBA community. comparison that reminded him of her. And he said Peyton Pritchard from Boston. And she could not help the face that she made. Let's actually take a look at the clip, Nick, if you put it up here so we can see it. You guys have seen Caitlin play. She's a one of ones. But is there like a comparison of somebody that you played with you guys watching the game right now that reminds you of the young lady to your right? I like Peyton Pritcher from Boston, the way he's able to handle the basketball. He needs big shots when the So as you think of this young lady right here,

these are the afraid of the big moment and as the champion. So as you saw, Caitlin wasn't really rocking with that, but what did you think of the comparison, Mace? Did you see it possibly or what? That's like somebody coming and being like,

yo, compare Cam to somebody you rap with. And I went, Mims, this is why you're hot. Killer will look at me like, nigga, you lost your mind. There's no way. I remind you.

of this nigga. Well, I could imagine him saying I remind him on somebody. I'm like, bro, that's a horrible. There's nothing comparison of that. Like, that is disrespectful. That was disrespectful.

And sometimes because people are up there, you think they know better than they don't. But I'm going to let Killers. I know he got something more interesting to say, that's crazy to think about. I know she was looking at it like I know this nigga did not. Put me with Pritchett.

I'm one of the ones. Listen. Yeah, she could have said Reggie Miller. He could have just made up somebody. Like, bro, there's no... That's the problem. He ain't going to say his soul. I know what it is like.

Richard. Where did he play with Pritcher that? I didn't know he played with Pritchard. No, I'm saying. You said he couldn't say Reggie Miller, but he ain't going to compare her to himself. Yeah, you're right. But that's who she reminds is Indiana. Come on, you can't do that. You can't do that. Reggie know better than that. Because Reggie is one of the one. of those people that was always talking about the quality of guards and who can shoot it and who shows up in big games. So he understands the importance of scoring in the clutch. Like somebody would tell me about, you know, a basketball player. And I say the same thing about killer. Like, I know in the clutch you're going to come through. Like, we know it. It's like, it's not a

question. If I drive and I kick the ball out, I know you're going to hit the shot. It's not even a question. I can run backwards. So this is what I'm thinking when he's talking about Caitlin Clark. She got to feel disrespected. And he's a fellow Indiana basketball player. He's supposed to put something better on her name. He could have said

Mark Price. He could have said all kind of people. Richard? And no disrespect to Pritchie, but not Caitlin Clark. That's not comparison. I've actually had three different views on it. right. So the first view is this.

If you're comparing like Lee, WMBA to NBA, Pritchard is disrespect. Mm-hmm. You know, Pritchie, first of all, Pritchie is a six, don't get it fucked up,

he's the six man of the year. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? He's good. Kaila Clark is a star in the WMBA. So if we can do in comparison just WMBA

to NBA NBA star comparison, that is wild disrespectful. Yeah. She does not come off the bench. She's actually one of the reasons that the money's getting raised higher in the WNBA. Outside of Agent Wilson, and I'm not saying this ain't other players that's not better than her. But she's arguably, arguably, can be the face.

She's definitely the face of the NCAA. You know, of course, Angel Reese and a couple other players, but for the last two years of college, she was the face of college basketball for women with a few other people. But listen, to compare her to Pritchett, if you're comparing WNBA to NBA, the NBA is wild disrespect. Like if she, I'm not comparing game-wise. I'm talking about stat-wise, celebrity-wise. Right now, I mean, I always go back to what I'm thinking about when we play. But if you compare her to celebrity-wise or somebody who's doing something for the game right now, who would I compare her to?

Maybe Jaylen Brunson. And I'm not talking about game-wise. I'm talking about effectiveness-wise. Yeah. And helping India and get back to the playoffs, helping them being talked about again. They wasn't even in the playoffs. I'm talking about somebody who's going to get buckets.

I'm not saying that game is alike or anything like that. I'm talking about if you're comparing notable people in the WMBA, then the NBA. That's my first thing. Second take is this. Maybe he's saying that he played exactly like Pritchie. Does it Pritcher played in the WMBA right now? He probably the average 60.

Maybe he's saying that. It's like, yo, right now, he reminds me and Pritchard. Think about that. He said, you can shoot, you can jibble. I think Pritchard is really good for a six man, especially come from Boston and many people that come off the bench. I think what he met, and I'm hoping this is what he meant,

when he says, Pritchard. If Richard was in the NBA right now, he average 50, average. In the WMBA? Yeah, pardon me, if he's in the WMBA. Maybe he's saying that if Caitlin Clark played Pritchard right now be a good game. Maybe that's what he said, which is disrespectful to Pritcher. That's what I hope he met.

My last take on this situation is this. You have to think about when you say Reggie Miller, right? Reggie Miller, he was in high school, right? He came home from school and he said he couldn't wait to get home. and tell his sister how he has scored 34 points. To laugh at her face, say, yeah, you said, I wasn't shit. And his sister said, oh, you have 34 tonight? Let's turn on the news.

I had 100 points. Cheryl Miller was amazing. Cheryl Miller, it just wasn't time for women's basketball to be like that. Cheryl Miller missed the boat. Cheryl Miller is better than Reggie Miller. So when you're trying to say a girl basketball player, you got to remember what Reggie grew up. in the house with.

Somebody who scored 100 points. So when you're just looking at the Caitlin Klug, you're like, yo, you're not even half of what my sister was. It just wasn't that time for women's basketball. Cheryl Millick arguably could be one of the best female basketball players ever ever. I'm talking about Lisa Leslie,

whatever you want to argue. Shoops, anybody, yeah. Yeah, suit all that. It just wasn't time for them to get that celebrity yet. So when you're looking through Reggie's eyes and you grew up, up in the house with a female that was better than you. Pritch it.

Yeah. I like that. I like that, killer, because that's a good segue. So he's thinking, I've seen the best. So there could be some hate in his heart. There could be some hate in his heart for female basketball players. Since his sister was better than him, I know Statt loved his women empowerment that I'm about to share. Like, him thinking that his sister was better than him the whole time.

and now he's from Indiana, and he have to talk about the first player in Indiana that get more publicity than him in basketball. Just think about that for a moment. He could be throwing a little shade on, Kaelan, because I'm thinking if you talk about shooting, you got to put up with, like, Trey Young or somebody like that. Not just for shooting, not bop, pop, bop.

You know, not none of that. But, you know, when it comes to the shooting, Trey Young, when you think of markability, you have to put up there with LeBron when it comes to markability. She changed the face of how they get paid, of how they can travel, the marketing dollars, the ticket sales. She changed a lot about this league, you know, so I think she's more impactful than just Pritchett.

I just don't think you can do that at this point because we've seen a lot of female basketball players that was phenomenal. They never got on Jets, killer. Come on, they was, you know, they was on. Yeah, but we're talking about a different trend. Yeah, but we're talking about two different numbers. We're talking about somebody like Michael Joy, who made $11 million this whole career to reverse somebody like Joe L.N.B.,

who's getting, or not leaving Joe Ambien, Jason Tatum, who's getting 360 million and five years as opposed to Jordan getting 11 million. It's whole career. Times and economy. have changed. But I think Reggie Miller is more to the point that you made a few weeks ago when you went off.

Don't get mad at me because I see Michael Jackson. Yeah, you're right. Don't get mad at me because I've seen it. Don't talk me about Summer Walker when I see Janet Jackson. That's what I'm saying.

That's real. I'm not disrespect to Summer Walker. No, this is I like a stuff too. I'm just saying, when you've seen the best of the best, like make sense, that was one of your great takes in the last few seasons, just period, any ear takes. But that's a great point.

When people seen it, some people may have seen it, like, it's kids now who'd be like, I don't know about all this joy and shit y'all be talking about. Because they can only go against the YouTube clips that they see or the highlights they see. They didn't understand the feeling

that you want to get a joy in jail. Or when the first joyous came out, trying to keep them as clean as you can, because your mother didn't want to spend $100 on sneakers. And people killing for the sneakers. Right. So if he's seen it, you can't really get mad because he's seen it.

That's why I gave all three things. You should have saw Stap face and body language when I said, and they were killing for the sneakers. Stadwin. Yeah, they was literally killing for the sneakers. Like, right? They was taking people joins. Like, it was like a thing.

to do. Like, if you had joins, man, you need security for them sneakers. Yeah, absolutely. One thing I want to ask you before we move on really quick, it's just because unfortunately, the clip is just really funny because she cannot hide her facial expressions. And you can clearly see that she was not fucking with that. So, like, my questioning all is like, even after, because now everybody's, like, it just became a whole thing. It's like, oh my God, does he watch women's like, it's just a whole bunch of things. Do you think at this point, he leaves it

alone or do you go clarify? He got to clean this up. He definitely, he got to clean this up for Indiana, right? He doesn't have to clean it up for Harlem. He doesn't have to clean it up for Jacksonville, but he has to clean it up. Not even for LA.

He has to clean this up for Indiana because it's going to seem like there's a disunity between the old grade of Indiana and the new hotness. And one thing you never want to do is have young niggas feeling like you hating on them as an old nigga, right? Like you had your time, bro. And you kicking dirt on a woman.

Not that he's doing this, but that's how they'll take it, right? Like, you try to slight her. Because she might hit more threes than he hit. Then it become that kind of conversation. Well, well, she's. living in a better time, all of that, killer. Now you got a black man versus a Caucasian woman, and that's just never going to go well in Indiana.

Right? We've seen Mike Tyson with this. You can't do that, champ. I think if he wants to, he could, but he ain't a nigga that need that. You know, some niggas got to clean up to save their job or the media or social media getting after him. Reggie Miller comes from a military household with his parents of military. I don't think he really cares too much.

And not only not, you don't hear no gossip about Reggie Miller like, yo, Reggie, I'm talking about like not basketball related. Reggie Miller could just stand on, if somebody asks him, he said, Reggie Miller, I wouldn't be, he's a class act as well. Yeah. He will explain it. He'll say, if somebody asks him about it. Or he could be like I said what I said, and it wouldn't be no big deal to Reggie.

To me. Yeah, y'all want to carry your male against female, black words. Well, I said what I said. I'm about to announce in that game. Y'all dwelling on it, not me. Good points from both of y'all, actually. But in the comments, let us know what y'all think. So last thing before we wrap,

so 40-year-old American climber Alex Honnold successfully completed his free solo climb of the Taipei 101 building in Taipei, Taiwan. So no ropes, no harness, and no protective gear. And he reveals he was paid less than one. million dollars for what he had done. So just Mace, what are your thoughts on his pay and then like, what do you think makes that worth it to pay?

I'm just curious, you know? I don't know. I wouldn't have done it. I don't see what you get from that. Like, why risk your life for that? But anything, especially, I don't get it. I'm totally lost.

I know Killer wouldn't do it. I would ask Nick, would he do it? But I think life is dangerous enough for us growing up. Why would you have to do that? You could die a lot of other ways and just climb up someplace and just climb up there for, what, a million dollars? Less than. Less than a million dollars.

That won't even cover his insurance. His family couldn't live from there with that amount of money. So I don't get it. My insurance wouldn't let me do it. What do you think, Killam? Was there something at the bottom to catch us fall? Because I know that they're saying that it's free, no ropes, no this and that. If he would have fell, in other words, he would have died.

Was it something to protect him at the bottom? I'm accident. I don't know. I will check because. No, that takes the whole, that takes the whole climb away. It's supposed to be fearless. Like, you're going all the way up here. Yeah, there's nothing to catch you.

What I'm saying is the reason I'm asking is, because this was on live TV. Now if he dies, then what? Are they going to show it? Everything live? I just was asking. I really didn't know. Secondly, when I see people do things like this,

I just think they grew up in a nice household, suburbia household, and they're thrill seekers. Mace said it, man. Growing up, you didn't really have to thrill seat. You know what I'm saying? I told, you know, Mace, you know, they asked me,

sentence mad at my answer because let me ask you this, let me ask both for y'all. What's your biggest fear of dying? Like, how's the worst way you can die for you? I've never thought about that. I never thought about that. It couldn't be gunshot

because you probably wouldn't feel it if you died that fast. But probably like fire or something like that in the fire. All of the above? Yeah, see, that's the mentality. It's like, you're coming out. You're like, well, that wouldn't be that horrible.

That's like, yeah, that couldn't. I'm like, I'm like, like, what? I would think like fire. That would be like the most excruciating way for a person to go. Pretty bad. My biggest fear, my biggest fear on how I would die is being eaten by a whale and not dying immediately. And you're just in the whale body.

They can take you there 20,000 feet. You're just in there with other fish and everything else and you're not dead. That's my biggest fear, man. I don't want to eat my well. Wait, wait, wait, killer, you ain't learned nothing from what Coach Ford said there. How would you end up in the well?

he's been teaching us since we was little. He said if a shark's coming, you remember that killer, he told us that? Yes, but you're missing a different whale and a shark is too different thing. Yeah, I coach told us, if you're in the middle of the ocean and the shark coming, what you're going to do?

We all like trying to swim away. He said, how are you going out swim a shark? We're thinking of every way that we can think of. He said, what you do? He said, just punch him in the nose. He might be pussy. That's the only thing you got this. So that's why I told Cam that.

I said you ain't learned nothing in all these years. I was going to say, the way you beat his shot. Yeah, it's hit him in his nose. He's never been punched in his nose. I bet you that. What? This is the philosophy. We've been giving growing up.

Y'all even have, like, big bodies of water, like, around. Yeah, he said, I guarantee you. He never been punched in his nose. Like, what? And he'll be dead serious, too. And he wants you to get the answer right. So it brings us out of class and say,

you know what's crazy, you know what's crazy? What? Is that, you know, we felt out years later that our high school coach is Sugar Digger Uncle, which we never knew until probably about seven, eight years ago, I just felt this out. The crazy shit is I told Shug,

the same story that we're telling now, and he got the same answer today. Punch him in the face. You asked him today. He's still running with, punch the shot. I mean, he should ask him the question. He told shook the same shit, punched the shark in the nose. But I don't know where you're going to find a whale nose.

Like a whale, the whale's crazy, man. That's why I said that. That's why I said that if he ended up in the belly of the well, that me he didn't follow what we were taught since 14 years old. You know, that is the dumbest. Kill a whale, like two sides of two, three school buses, man. Like, you can't. Like, a whale is not a shark, man.

First of all, the reason I'm scared, like, when I go to the beach, I don't get in the ocean on the beach. I stay back on the sand because I see them come up on the beach and eat sales before. The niggas go to the beach and wiggle back in the water. I don't even play the edge like that. I'd be on boats. That's what I'm saying.

That's my biggest fear of fucking whale pop up, knock the boat over, eat a nigger. and you just in there and you're not dead till later. Sorry. No, you know, no fault of necessary. I hope that never happens to you. I hope you never come close to a whale because, like, that's already scary in itself.

I hope you never come near fire. A shock. Guys, it's not going to have. Like, we're okay. You got to find out. No, we don't have to find out. We don't have to find out. We don't have to punch sharks.

And Cam, to answer your question, just you're saying, what was the plan? Because they did release that. So they were going to implement a 10-second delay and prepare a contingency plan to immediately cut away from the feed if a fatal fall occurred. And the host actually had a pre-written statement to inform viewers if a tragedy happened for the end of the broadcast. So it was in play. So there was literally nothing there.

So they were just banging on him too. Yeah, that was crazy. Because that's scary. that's a lot. So shout out to that man. He should have got paid more, though. I will say that because that's crazy, risking his life, but he likes living his life on the edge.

Some people like to do that. There are some people who like to do that. The real secret's pause. That's a new one. Yeah. But they got it. We are not going to do that. We are good.

Okay, y'all, well, that is all the time that we have for today. Went so many different ways. This is a very fun conversation. Thank y'all for watching. always, it is what it is.