IT IS WHAT IT IS - JERRY JONES YOU KNOW WHAT YOU GOTTA BRING BACK TO DALLAS & IT'S NOT THE COACH | S3 EP.12

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

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Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Florida, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio

and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They will also match your first deposit up to $100 and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treja Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam,

and we are joined with our analyst, Maurice Claret. Mo, Mace, what's happening? Eminem, what's good? Chilling, man. We backstage right now

having a great time. Shout out to you, Killer. Shout out to Mo. Shout out to Stat. Shout out to you, Killer. Shout out to Moe. Shout out to Stat. Shout out to D-Wade. And look. What's that? I tried to help him out.

What'd it say? That old TMZ. TMZ. That was good Yeah Yeah Bow bow bow Right back at you Take that take that

Yeah nigga What the fuck is they talking about But they I don't know I'll really be trying to figure out What niggas niggas think they got On any blog I'll really be trying to figure out what niggas niggas think they got on any blog I'll really be trying to think

I'll be thinking like do they know the niggas the niggas that they be fucking with they don't know fucking with us pause turns niggas on like I don't really understand that shit we can do this all week next week too TMZ if you want

we got more shit for y'all to do. Yeah. If you want to keep it going. Keep it going. T.M.Z. You know, cause you know what'd be crazy is like, yo, some G shit murder. Like it'd be like, oh fuck man. No, it'd be on some G shit. It'd be like on some what the fuck man no this on some g-shit it'd be like cam you be wilding i'll be like y'all really don't know this nigga like y'all really

really have no clue who who's worse than me like it's real subtle and deliberate so you really don't have a clue of how this nigga operates, man. So, I be like, enjoy yourself. You got the real, you really have the wrong niggas to try and put under pressure for us. It's really the, like, the dead-ass wrong niggas. Rawr!

Yeah, man. Oh, man. I'm mad I ain't thinking that, man. Oh, man. I'm mad I ain't thinking that, too. Mo, what's up, Mo? I'm mad about that. Mo, what's good? What's going on? How you, man?

How was your week? Oh, it's fabulous, man. Look, it'd be so crazy. I'd be out in public, and it's crazy. Like, everybody asks me about the show now, and they swear up and down. They be like, yeah, when Mase come back to the show and act like we talk every day.

I'm like, yeah, you know, he'll be back in a second, man. I'm in big time with people now. Yeah. I told niggas, I said, when Mase come back, I'm leaving for a week. Niggas said, don't do that. I said, nah. They say, yo, when he be back in studio,

this is not any of a show. Y'all niggas getting too fancy for us, nah. They said, yo, when he be back in studio, this is not any of a show. Y'all niggas getting too fancy for us, man. I said, he be back soon, man. They definitely looking for you, though. Well, Mace, we'll be back in studio soon. Yeah, we'll be back Sunday. Yeah. Okay.

He'll be back Sunday. And then Maurice, glad to have you here this week. So let's get into the Cowboys. The Dallas Cowboys are keeping head coach Mike McCarthy despite losing to the Packers 48-32 in the playoffs. After speculation, Jerry Jones confirmed and said, while we're all disappointed with the result on Sunday and with our playoff record,

I am 100% supportive of him as our head coach and ability to reach our goals. Is this a good decision for the team? Go ahead, Mo. Well, I don't think so, man. I looked at this one. I looked at him. I looked at like the Ryan Day situation at Ohio State where you have somebody who takes you but so far, but in the games that matter and moving on and making divisional runs to the championship or getting you to the Super Bowl, a guy just can't do it. And so I don't know if there's like not a free coach in the market that they currently want or that they're currently eyeballing. But for me, I'm like, man, it's sort of similar to the Ohio

State situation where you have a good coach and he can get you but so far. But, you know, he isn't he isn't the guy, you know, proverbially to make that championship run with you. So I don't agree with it. You know, that's just my personal opinion. Um, shit. This, you know, a lot of different directions. I believe, I don't know this for a fact. I believe niggas reached out to bill. Bill said, no niggas say, keep the neck.

You know, it's just that simple for me. Like, Bill Belichick would not have lost that game if he coached that same exact team last week when they lost. That same team, he would have got at least to the, I'm about to say the Eastern Conference Finals, to the NFC Conference Championship. Minimum. Minimum with that same team.

I think that Jerry Jones is getting older. Prematurely, in his past, he may have fired head coaches too quick, and they may have said this, that, and that. Look, I ain't even going to be long-winded and give some fake political answer. Niggas is not available who they want. McCartney, he has a great regular season record.

I believe he's like fourth in a lot of statistical. I don't have it in front of me. I was reading it earlier. A lot of statistical coaching stats. In the regular season, he's well. Playoffs, he's not doing so well. And we said this at the beginning of the season. The Cowboys will be judged purely

on what they do in the playoffs. We said this preseason. We said this week one. We said this week four. We said this week eight. We said this week 12. We said this week 17 going into the wild card weekend. And we was 100% right.

And the thing about it is, we don't need to be Biff from Back to the Future 2 to guess what was going to happen. This shit been happening. There's nothing new. So at the end of the day, bringing them back, I'm not saying it's bad, but it may be nobody else on the market.

But I agree with Mo. If I had another opportunity to bring somebody back, then I would. You got to realize he didn't just lose. He lost to the organization that he coached for however many years he coached over there.

You don't want to lose to your old organization that you've been coaching and they got rid of you. So if it was a better person out there to coach the Dallas Cowboys I think that Jerry Jones may have picked them but my opinion is Bill said I don't need that type of pressure on me right now and he may go with the Falcons shout out to Jermaine Dupree though too Jermaine Dupree did say Bill Belichick was going to the Falcons if he's going still that has yet to be determined.

But it looks that way. We'll see. Yeah, Mo, you wanted to ask me something for Nate's talk? Go ahead, Nate. Sorry. Yeah, I was going to say Belichick would have been a bad fit for the Cowboys in a way because him and Jerry Jones would probably be fighting about who's going to make the decision.

And I think McCarty should stay as the head coach because he's an offensive coach and their problem is offense. Their problem is defense. They weren't able to stop nobody from running the ball. So whether it was the 49ers, I know they're going to blame Trevin Diggs for not being present, but they got more issues than that in their defense. I was going to ask this question, right?

We all know there's coaches who get it done in the preseason, right, or during the regular season. In your opinion, like, what is it that a coach has in the postseason to make championship runs? Like, what is that coach's mentality versus somebody else? And I don't know if that's the right way to frame it. But when I thought about him and Ryan Day, they have similar, I don't know, similar paths with, you know, we win all of the regular games that we're supposed to win and we have good records. And like Cam said, he has good stats.

So it's hard to argue against that. But what is it that you can't get done in the postseason? So like when you look at Andy Reid, right? Andy Reid was up in Philadelphia for all those years. And then he went over to Kansas City and then he got it done. And is it the team? Is this something that switches mentality? I don't know. I just wanted to ask a general question to see if y'all like have some feedback on it. Yeah, real quick. Absolutely. Just real quick to piggyback over what Mace said, though.

Yeah, I think that you may be right about Bill Belichick and Jerry Jones bumping heads and colliding. That's a great take. But if their problem is defense, Bill Belichick is a defensive coach. He comes from the Giants when they was winning the championships. He specializes in defense. And like you said, if there's no problem on offense because McCartney specializes in offense, the problem is defense. But I do agree with what you said. It may be a clash of bumping heads because Bill Belichick been a GM all these years outside of just being a coach. Back to Mo, that's a great question, Mo.

And it's just, you know, at the end of the day, you got to take, you got to, it's about being also turning up as a coach. A coach, not saying, I don't know Mike McCartney's personal personality, but let's say for instance, let's just use the Texans, right? For example, you got young quarterback in there,

you know, new coach in there, that energy in there. I look at that coach and I see, yeah, let's get fired up. Nigga, let's go. Nigga, you know what time it is. You know they saying we gonna lose. Let's go. I look at that same energy

with the Lions coach. You know, the it is. You know they're saying we're going to lose. Let's go. I look at that same energy with the Lions coach. You know, the Lions coach that week, they lost to Dallas because of the penalty or whatever it is. That nigga couldn't even sit still at the press conference. He couldn't know where to put his gum. He's sitting around running around just like, yo, what the fuck?

He just put the gum in a piece of paper, boarded the shit up. He was really upset. Same thing with Green Bay's coach. Now, think about Green Bay, right? We'll just use Green Bay, for example. Floret. LaFleur, pardon me.

I call her LaFleur. My nigga LaFleur. He had to think about this. Him and Aaron Rodgers was bumping heads for mad years because Aaron Rodgers felt, I got more knowledge than you, nigga. I've been doing this longer than you've been coaching, nigga.

I won the Super Bowl, nigga. So when he first got there, I seen a lot of tension between him and Aaron Rodgers and it even leaked in the press conferences to where Aaron Rodgers would say little slick shit

like, you know, trying to tell me what play to run when I've been in the NFL doing this longer than him. To where now you got Jordan Love who can listen to his game plan, listen to what he has to say because it's more of a teacher-student thing

as opposed to when Aaron Rodgers was there and Aaron Rodgers felt he had superiority over the coach and he's still your coach, whether you're older or you're close in age or whatever the case may be. I think it's your coach has to turn up to another level to rile your team up as well. And I don't know if McCartney has that

in the postseason. I would like to hear what Mace has to say about that as well, though. The situation with Jordan Love and his coach, I think they're just a better fit all together. I don't really have much to say about that, Paul. No, the question was, just in case you didn't hear the question, is he said, what makes coaches better in the postseason as opposed to the regular season? Just any coach.

Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, what makes any coach better is preparation. Preparation and the ability to communicate and get the best out of their players. Some people know which button to press. Like you said, Killer, what conversation to have. You know, some people can use

even negativity like somebody running in the in the in the locker room on us. And he said, yo, I mean, if y'all lose a day, I wouldn't be sad. You playing against Steph. That's all you need to know. I mean, if y'all lose, I wouldn't be sorry.

I mean, you should look at Mason. Y'all should have no problem with it because he's just better than y'all. I swear to God, I swear to God, I was going to say that same thing. I swear on everything I love. I promise you, after you finish talking, I swear to God, I was about to say that same exact thing. say that same exact thing. When we got to, so when the playoffs started,

when the playoffs started that year, we went to the championship. You know, you get the brackets. You get the brackets of who you're going to play. And if everybody won their games in the semifinals, we played against Lincoln,

Steph Marbury and them. So our coach looked at the brackets and said, well, y'all look like y'all, y'all had a good run. It looked like he was going to stop at the semifinals, but you know, that's a hell of a run getting to the semifinals.

Cause there's no way you're going to beat Lincoln. Y'all should be happy. Yeah. Y'all come back next year. Y'all get good. This will be great next year. Y'all get good. This movie. Y'all be great next week. Yo, I swear to God, I was going to say that.

He doubled down on it in the locker room. I say, yo, kill him. This nigga is not scoring. Yo, that's a fact. I'm making sure he doesn't. Right. So now, before the playoffs start, you know you got to win two games. We got to win a game, win another game. Now you're at the semifinals.

So now you're in the locker room. He said, y'all did what you said. Y'all did what y'all was supposed to do. Y'all should be happy. This nigga used to piss us the fuck off, my nigga. And that was a great way to put it, Mace, that if you know how to push certain niggas buttons pause like for instance let's go let's let's use this weekend for example he knew that wasn't gonna break us he knew that pause he knew that wasn't gonna break us right some players you tell that to you will ruin their confidence he knew we was from the ghetto he knew we we got up for the games. He know Maze can't afford to listen to this and he knows

I'm a killer. Let's go. For instance, let's just use, let's just say for an example, right? I'm just trying to think of an example. Let's just use this for an example. You got Kansas City playing against the Bills.

And I don't know this. I'm just trying to give you an example. You may have the defensive coordinator for the Bills saying, you know, I don't know, last time Patrick Mahomes had three three touchdowns he may be telling the cornerback this the cornerback for the Bills

and this is not actual stats I'm just saying a scenario they went to your side three times three touchdowns it's the playoffs now

so he may be expecting four or five you're the weak side that's what I'm figuring they figure that you're the weak side so they're going to go to your side.

I know I would. You know, this is the shit. You got to say the certain things. You got to know what buttons to push, like May said, to get the best out of your players. Yeah, you're the weak side. I hope your girl is not coming

or anything like that because you know next week we play Mahomes. Yeah. And they disrespected you last time. So imagine what it'll do to you in the playoffs. So that was a great answer. You got to know what buttons to push with certain players.

You got to know who's sensitive. To sum it up, Mace said it really the best. You got to know, however he summed it up, the ability to get the best out of your players and maximize it. Because football is not basketball. You can't go back in game two and make adjustments or game three or game four, five, six, or possibly seven. This is one and done. Any given Sunday, you go home. So the preparation throughout the week has to be tremendous. So this is actually kind of like a two-part question because McCarthy was asked

why fans should buy back into head coach. And in an interview, I'm going to read it verbatim. He said, I believe the direction, the leadership, everything is in place.

I'm not very comfortable talking about myself, but I came here to win a championship. I didn't come here to get another contract or anything other than that. I came to Dallas

to win a world championship and that's why I'm standing here. Buy into it. Does his pitch make you believe Maurice first? No, it doesn't make me believe. That's like a good political answer he probably gave to the fans. But don't nobody want to hear that shit after you lose. You know, people still mad. They frustrated't nobody want to hear that shit after you lose. People's still mad. They're frustrated. People want to win.

Those good, wholesome talks are good for training camp, and it's good when you're having new fans come around. It's good when you're trying to sell tickets and corral the energy back around and get your fan base, but don't nobody want to hear that shit after you lose. People frustrated,

people mad, and then you'll have, like, you know, we'll make jokes and everybody else, like, around the world make jokes, and you become the butt of the joke as the Cowboys not being able to get it done and hanging on championships back from, like, 93. You know what I'm saying? So it sounds good, and it was probably the only words that he can conjure up, but at some point when you have all of the pieces that you need to go on a championship run,

at some point it comes down to you. Like even what Macy's talking about, or they were talking about the defense being the issue, right? At some point you have to look back on coaching. So for anybody who doesn't know, and I love, like I love this platform because it becomes like people who may not be

familiar with all of sports, right? Always remember this of sports, right? Always remember this in football, right? Players are supposed to make plays. Coaches are supposed to put them in position to make plays. And if you have guys that are out of position and you have big plays being gotten on the defense, it's because coaching didn't put people in position to make plays, right? You may see an error from a player, but when you have people getting gashed for yards or people coming back from huge deficits and stuff like that, a lot of that stuff is leaning on coaching. And so the answer was some bullshit, in my opinion. Yeah, I'm going to totally agree with Maurice. I mean, it wasn't passion.

Like, nah, that shit was just a political answer. Just like, yo, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

And I ain't gassing it. Stat was there. I don't know if Stat was there this time. Stat was there one of these times. Then we went to, and listen,

man, and sometimes, sometimes the speech doesn't always work, but it's about believing what you say. We went to Colorado, and when I was in that locker room with D.R. Sanders, I swear to God, I'm not capping.

If that nigga asked me to suit up for two plays, I would have did it. I can't say i got 16 plays and if he needed me on special teams i would have got out there for special teams yeah after the nigga said what he said man you know you you gotta make niggas believe and and deon sanders and i know as professional coaches that do this too, I'm just saying that's kind of close to home. That's why I'm using Deion Sanders. But what I'm saying is the coach said, this is what Deion said, and I know we're dealing with college and professional two different things, but I'm just giving an example of motivation. The coach told Deion

Sanders that, I don't know why you got on a hat and sunglasses because you're doing an interview. My mother told me to take my hat and my sunglasses off when I'm talking to people. I went to that game one day. It was about the player. The locker room was packed. Deion's making the speech.

I see the crowd moving out the way. I'm like, what's going on? It's Dion mother walking through the crowd to get on the podium. Niggas is like, yo, nah. She takes the mic. She like, fuck toe niggas, I ain't raised my son right. Right. We about to go kick ass. Niggas is like, what, yo? Fucking, mama loves it, yo.

I'm telling you. Sometime it take that. It take that. When I seen the niggas part in the shit for his mother, and things talk about, so I ain't raised my son right? Yo, fam,

that gave me the chills. You know what I'm saying? No cap. So sometimes it takes little techniques and little motivation to get your team aroused. As far as the speech that he just said,

that shit didn't make me want to buy the next year. And I know that made Dallas fans even more mad. Tell me some shit. Lie to me, nigga. Tell me some shit that made me want to be a season ticket holder. That speech would not make me comfortable as a season ticket holder

if I was in Dallas. Real quick to add to that, ticket holder that speech would not make me comfortable as a seasoned ticket holder if i was in dallas real quick to add to that because um at the speech at colorado was insane like because i was there for that moment yeah when his mom came out it was crazy we was chanting had us all running out on the field like i've never suited up in my life and at that moment you feel like you could do anything yeah and it wasn't like he was making it easy he's not like you guys are gonna have it he's like y'all better fight y'all don't let nobody disrespect you or your mama And it wasn't like he was making it easy. He's not like, you guys are going to have it. He's like, y'all better fight. Y'all don't let nobody disrespect you or your mama. And it was just like, yeah.

Yeah, for real, yo. Nah, it was crazy, man. It was crazy, man. Mase. Yeah, I think, honestly, my take on that is that your belief matches matches how you live you know what i'm saying so it's hard to say you believe something if you're not going strong and pause in that direction so to say that as the loss is like the total opposite like for me i believe i'm supposed to win so if i that's why when i lost i'm crying because i believe i'm supposed to win. So if I, that's why when I lost, I'm crying because I believe I'm supposed to win

this. Like you said, killer, there's no emotion towards that loss. It's just like, you believe this, but on the basis of what? That's crazy. So I can, I can agree with that. Anytime that I'm super frustrated or like, I feel like, uh, I've given my everything to something, if I lose, it's going to visibly show. Anybody who you invest a whole lot of anything into, if you don't get the results that you want, and it's just that loss, especially in sports when you give a lot to it.

So I agree with you. Listen, man. Yeah, when you're that cool about a loss, you definitely didn't give it your all. Go ahead, Killer. No, no, no. I didn't mean to interrupt you. You definitely didn't give it your all. Go ahead, killer. No, no, no. I didn't mean to interrupt you. You got finished?

Yeah. I was going to say, give me a solo real quick. I'm Mike McCartney after the loss. And I just got reinstated to the Cowboys. You know why I'm back? Because I didn't get the fucking job done. That's why I'm back. You know why I'm back?

Because I let the Jones family down. That's why I'm back. You know why I'm back? I let the city of Dallas down. That's why I'm back. You know why I'm back? I let the Cowboys before me down. They're boarding the championship.

I let Emmitt Smith down. I let Troy Aikman down. I let Michael Irvin down. I'm not leaving this city until I get a championship because that's what I was here to deliver. That's why I'm back.

You understand? And that's what I was here to deliver. That's why I'm back. You understand? And that's what I'm here to do. And that's what's going to get there. Questions? You start like that, nigga. That's how you sell it. No, because you know I don't get it. A tear got to drop down your eye like Denzel and Glory, nigga.

Yeah, exactly. Was that Herm Edwards? I want winners. I want winners on my team. Who is that? That's the coach I'm talking about. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

You got to go. Yeah, exactly, man. That's how it got to go, man. Got the shoe program, nigga. Yeah, the shoe program, man. That's how it got to go, man. So anything else. You got a shoe program, nigga. Yeah, the shoe program, nigga. Yeah, you need Denzel in training day, nigga. Yeah, like, nigga, if you ain't come in with that energy, then I don't want to, I can't be bothered, nigga.

I don't believe you. Period. Do not be surprised if somebody takes that. Because I could see it right now. Like, this looks real familiar. Yeah. Uh-oh, if somebody takes that because I could see it right now like this looks real familiar Oh oh if somebody steals my shit yeah let me copyright that tomorrow

case of coach they try to steal my shit and run with it I can see it already Yeah Alright and they gonna tag us too if somebody does it next

so we'll be waiting for that Yeah Alright moving along Colts owner Jim Ursae was found un. All right. Moving along, Colts owner, Jim Irsay, was found unresponsive at home in December. The Colts revealed

he was dealing with a severe respiratory illness and then they declined to offer any specific response. But it's still unclear what the issue was. So thoughts on the situation. Maurice first.

Yeah, it just shows you what power does. You know know just a blunt word about it so he had issues in the past where he had overdosed before and not not overdosed we got caught with a bunch of Percocets and then he went on like a bunch of interviews and talked about him going into drug and alcohol treatment and him being a bad example for players and so on and so forth so I'm pretty sure you know he lived in probably the rural Indianapolis area and they pulled up on him and he was unresponsive. So they gave the commercial response to try to protect the Colts brand. But it's like, you know, it's a hypocrisy of everything.

You know, when you when you're an owner, you're powerful. There's no sanctions or there's no standard for behavior because your peers, you know, they probably do the same thing that you do. But that was like my first thought on it. But the second thought on it is I actually hope that he does get well and that he doesn't abuse and end up killing himself. But, you know, if you're to the point where you OD and, you know what I'm saying, you had an issue that ain't been checked and, you know,

the people who are around you just allowing you to, you know, abuse yourself. I don't know, two thoughts on it. Well, well, I'll say what Maurice just said. I totally agree with it, but I'll just make it short. He's a junkie. Jim Irv says he's a junkie, all right?

We're not going to sugarcoat it. He's a junkie. He's been getting fucked up for years. Ha and everything else. He got pulled over under the influence. And he also said, I remember him getting pulled over talking about he was under the influence driving and he said, niggas

just pulling me over because I'm white and I'm a billionaire. What? The audacity. Like, yo, he said that shit on HBO. He said, nah, niggas just fucking with me because I'm rich, white, and I'm a billionaire. Fuck with black people.

Well, then why the fuck we keep getting pulled over and we ain't none of that shit? Well, I don't know. He said that shit loud and clear, too. And he was drunk when he said it. And it was on HBO. He's just fucking with me. He just sit down.

Yeah. He's just pulling me over because I'm white, rich, and I'm a billionaire. Murdered a real reverse racism. Yeah. Yeah. Yo, bro, he's been getting high and drunk and fucked up for years. We got to think about how many times that they didn't put this out publicly. This has been going on for over a decade.

The fans and analysts and whoever knows about, whoever's been looking to it, this is not nothing new. And when he got fucked up the last time, they were like, oh, he's going to get help. He's going to get better. This has been going on since Peyton Manning. Been at the fucking courts. Nigga's like, oh, he's going to get help. He's going to get better. This has been going on since Peyton Manning been at the fucking cults. So this is not nothing new. I'm going to classify it to junkie and I'm going to move on

from it and I hope he gets better. I do agree with Mace. I mean, pardon me, with Maurice, but Maurice had an eloquent answer. You know,

I'll give you a perfect, I'll give you a perfect example and this is, you know, it's a TV show I was watching and the mother, a son was dating the mother. I'm bugging out. The son was dating a girl and the mother was like, yo, your girlfriend's getting high. Your girlfriend's getting high. And James Evans Sr. took the phone and said, Julius, he's a damn junkie. Come on home, man.

You're out with a junkie. Stop it, my nigga. And that's just what happened just now. Maurice, no disrespect. He was flawed and I was James. You're dating a junkie. That nigga's junkie. He been doing this for years.

We don't even know about the stuff that's not publicized. Hope he does get help. But this isn't nothing new. If it's over 10 years and you tried to get help a few times, there's a pattern, and sometimes it's going to be hard

to get over at his age. Mace, what do you think? That's crazy. I think he's blessed to even be found unresponsive. Like, for real. They could have just went a whole other way. Like, any time you found unresponsive, it's time for you to clean it up. Because that is your other chance.

So to be arguing with the cops when they pull you over is reckless. Yeah. But he got the complexion for the protection. But is that reverse racism or he was really drunk and high murder? Because you know you're the president of reverse racism, the CEO. I'm trying to figure out, is this a case of reverse racism when he said, niggas just pulling me over because I'm white, rich, and a billionaire. That sounds crazy to hear somebody say,

oh, you just pulling me over because I'm white. Said it, though. And a billionaire. No, but I'm talking, it ain't crazy to you. Basically, he was saying, in other words, nigga, you hating on me, but I couldn't say it. That's a fact. That's a fact. Yo, Mo, you hating on me, but I couldn't say it. That's a fact. That's a fact.

Yo, Mo, you was going to say something, Mo? I'm sorry. Yeah, so like, I just, I laugh at this stuff, man, because like, we have like situational integrity, right? And what I mean is that, you know, you were going to get the kid, Henry Ruggs, you know, it was a kid who killed the person out there in Vegas

in the car wreck, you know, when he was driving. And we talk about him being under the influence. So you will paint this man all across the TV of how bad he is. Or if you have players, you will just slander them and how bad they are. But something where somebody's supposed to be the leader of an organization, right? There's no sanctions for that. And I'm not looking for this dude to get in trouble. I don't want him to get in trouble. I wish, I really wish that, you know, whatever situation he's dealing with, he goes and gets help. But I don't know why it burns my skin up sometimes to when it's talking about young black kids or just niggas in general, just the same standard. And I know we live in America and I know just what it is, but this is like the obvious,

like this is one of those situations that, you know, when you suppose to uphold an organization, it's supposed to be the leader or supposed to be the representative. There's a there's an expectation, the standard of behavior that you suppose to exemplify. And I just think like, you know, me personally, I've been slandered for not holding myself to a certain behavior and a certain standard. But this is a situation where, you know, we sweep these things up under the rug and act like today, everyday things. But when you get a player, you become conditioned to beat him up or beating her up for just whatever that they doing, you know, the, the, the, the scales are slanted. You know what I'm saying? And then for those watching who are a little bit confused on the context, I'm going to read the exact quote that he said. Um, he said, I am prejudiced against because I'm a rich white billionaire.

If I'm just the average guy down the block, they're not pulling me in. Of course not. So this is what he said verbatim. This is, it is what it is. We are the source. This is not made up. Just so y'all know. Okay.

As we know, Gerard Mayo is now the Patriots head coach and people are unsure of his experience. He previously played for the Patriots as a linebacker for eight seasons and started his coaching career in 2019 when he was named New England's inside linebackers coach. But do you think people's concerns are valid since he was only a linebackers coach? Maurice first. Two things I think of when I heard of him. One, I think Robert Kraft has been heavily influenced by Meat and Bill, Jay-Z, and everything that goes on with that whole coalition for justice reform and being inclusive or Black people being inclusive in opportunities that

white people don't have or that white people have. Hopefully I said it right. And I think that that probably played a major role. And I'm not trying to say Gerard Mayo isn't prepared because everybody starts off inexperienced with something and everybody needs one opportunity to get going. Right. And I think it's part of that. But then I also think that when you think of Boston or just the whole far northeast, you think of like the area, you think of like a heavily racist space. So I think the racism or the the the disdain for him, they're probably like, man, you're leaving a legacy with Bill Belichick and all of the championships he won. And so we don't really think this nigga can do it. Like you couldn't find anybody else like this nigga who only coached linebackers.

Like when I read that article or when I read the responses and the comments from people, that's how I translated it. Just like as a black dude. Like I was like, oh, they don't think a nigga who coached linebackers can do it. That's just my two cents about it. I'll let y'all talk. That was a great take because if it wasn't yesterday, it may

have been the day before yesterday. I'm not sure what day. I said the same shit as far as territory is concerned. As far as Boston is perceived racist for a lot of years. And we know it's a lot of niggas up there in Boston, but I'm just saying it's perceived as a racist place.

And listen, Mo, I swear to God, I was going to say the same thing. Robert Kraft has become a nigga nigga lately, man. You know what I'm saying? You got to realize it. That nigga, God bless his death,

his wife passed away, a nigga like, I'm going to live the rest of my life to the fullest. He hanging out with Jay-Z. He's hanging out with Meek Mills.

He's hanging out with the owner of the Philadelphia 76ers. But you know, Philly's a super duper white. That's the part ofers, but you know Philly's a... Mike Rubin. Yeah, he's a super-duper white. That's the part. I mean, Philly's a nigga out.

Philly is a nigga-nigga tear. And Robert Kraft has taken into the urban community, which we love you, Robert. We appreciate you. We understand. Think about what this... Robert got caught in a handjob joint. You know what I'm saying?

That nigga Robert is doing nigga shit. He like, yo, I'm going to give this nigga a handjob joint. You know what I'm saying? That nigga Robert is doing nigga shit. He like, yo, I'm going to give this nigga a chance, man. I'm going to give this nigga a chance. He's doing a lot of nigga shit. So I'm not knocking Robert Kraft for giving the nigga opportunity. But I'm not mad at people's concerns either. Like, wait a minute, Rob. Now, we are the Patriots.

Now, you might be taking this nigga shit a little bit too far. Now, come on now. We was built on the fucking shoulders of Bill Belichick, Tom Brady. That's good old Apple American pie, nigga. That's white on white crime, nigga.

We dead as white as can be. You going straight nigga after Tom Brady and Bill Belichick? You don't put a light-skinned nigga in there. You don't put Barack Obama. You put a dog skin. You put a nigga nigga in there. Complexion counts. Melatonin counts.

Think about this. Think about this. Think about this murder, right? Just give me an example, right? I'm just imagine. I'm just saying, and listen, I'm dumb happy for Barack Obama being our president.

I'm dumb happy. Do you think, and I'm asking Mace this, specifically, I'm asking you this, murder. A nigga with Barack Obama's same qualifications school-wise,

education-wise, government, whatever he did before he came to the president. If he was the same complexion as Flavor Flav, do you think he would have got that job? Exactly. Not at all.

Yeah, you can't be as dark as Flavor Flav and get the president job at this particular point. Be happy they like, we let at this particular point. Be happy. They like, we let a light skin again. You know, and he's from Africa.

They said he's from Africa too. So what else y'all want? You know what I'm saying? It is great, you know? Yeah. So listen, I get people's concerns,

but I understand where Robert Kraft has been hanging out the last few years. So I get both sides of the spectrum. That's a great take.

Okay. And then lastly, before we go to break, Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh asked for immunity in his new contract, meaning it would spell out any penalty he could face

if the NCAA rules him responsible for any future case. So what are your thoughts considering his entire situation? Maurice. Oh, he got a great lawyer. That nigga used leverage. He won a championship

and said, fuck that. If I'm coming back, I ain't answering for none of that stuff that I did. So that's just a good lawyer, man. So let me ask you, so I'm more clear on this particular topic. I know exactly what immunity is,

but what is immunity in the NCAA or with the school? I think it's, to me, the way I read it when I read it was, he doesn't want, rather he goes to the NFL or stays with the school that he has no legal recourse against him as contract or anything that he has going on or that he can't get in any trouble. And I figured that now that he's gotten past that counter stallion stuff, he's gotten past the cheating. I brought a championship to you all and y'all trying to renegotiate my contract.

Man, look, if y'all want me to stay with this shit, y'all better push y'all weight against the NCAA and do everything y'all can do to keep me away from that stupid shit. So I looked at him as like he's leveraging himself and leveraging that. And so I'm not sure if it's with the school or both. It could be both, you know what I'm saying? But I took like the entire situation as that. Yeah, that's the entire situation as that.

Yeah, that's the reason I was asking, because I dig it with the school. Like, look, y'all niggas can't penalize me, but the NCAA may be like, who the fuck is you trying to get immunity with us? We the NCAA? No, you can't get immunity, nigga. Who are you to tell us to give you immunity?

What the fuck are you talking about? You want a little chip, ha ha. Now you want immunity? The fuck is you talking about, my nigga? You know the show goes on, right? I'm the NCAA talking to Chip. You know the show goes on, right? You know, if you leave it, the show goes on, nigga. And listen, I'm a hardball fan. You know I would fights for players, fights for them to get money, fight for all this shit. Listen, I'm a big hit fan, but if I'm the NCAA,

you know we ain't been paying niggas, right? You know we get billions of dollars and don't pay players. We figured out a way for y'all to go get money on your own. You know, because niggas see NIL and be like, oh, they get players can finally get paid not from the schools

not from the NCAA they like if you could go get it go get it they not we're not giving you none of our shit you can forget about that

so when he's asking for immunity that's why I was asking for clarity and I would probably have to do some more homework on it as well but I could see him

asking Michigan for that. But asking the NCAA? I don't know if they would go. I mean, I would definitely try if I was gutsy as fuck. Definitely gutsy. Some shit I would do, too. You want me in that community, nigga? I'm a diplomat already.

No, even... Go ahead. No, here you talk about it. Here you talk about it, what makes more logical sense is with Michigan. Like, just the way you explained it, and I just talked about it, and the reason it, I think it might be Michigan.

I don't think it's the NCAA because they don't have any governance over that. Right, that's why I was asking the question. I'm like, how far does this immunity go? Now, look, that's still good with Michigan, too, because, you know, Michigan will sit there and the five five banners down because they took

a couple dollars when they was fucked up from a nigga take down their accolades and all their wins and all this other shit so I dig that

if they doing that for Michigan I don't think that's going to fly with the NCAA so I hope it is Michigan but Jim if get away

with as much shit as you can why you hot you know that's just the way you do it. That's a good way to look at it. Yeah. While you're hot, get away. While you're hot.

Yeah. Get away with it. This is where you ask for immunity. Yeah. Exactly. When you're hot, get away with as much shit as you can. But if you're a scream, he must have did something, right? Immunity does scream that, yo, you don't know yet,

but I know that somebody might know. Right. So we're just going dead dead right now. I want y'all to let bygones be bygones. You didn't see me, I didn't see you. That's a fact. And it also lets us know, we know that they got pulled with the NCAA

to make it be erased. But that's a good... But you're going to ask for that. But that's a good point as well, Mace. Fuck about to happen. That you need immunity. What's about to happen that we don't know that you want immunity yo if y'all don't give me immunity right now i'm going to nfl let's just say i'm not saying i did but if i did do and

somebody might know about it i need you to help me out with the immunity. Yeah. So did you do it, Jim? We don't need to talk about that. I want y'all to push the immunity through. Yeah, exactly. And then just for a little bit

more clarification, so it is within his Michigan contract, but it's saying that he wants immunity and to delay the buyout in case an NFL team calls. He's really trying to get best of both worlds and see what happens. So if it's saying that he wants immunity and to delay the buyout in case an NFL team calls. He's really trying to get best of both worlds and see what happens.

So if it's on his record, that's technically not on his record because it would be bypassed. So that's a sticky situation to get out of, but it looks like he's going to make it happen. So you're hot, you're hot, man. That's just the way it goes, yo. Listen, man, if you're, look, if you're a musician or artist or whatever, you got a price and you got a super price. Mase got a moment price for us.

When we negotiate, those niggas, you got to pay for the moment. And they pay. And they pay. You're paying for the moment. And they pay. And they pay. You're paying for the moment. We're going to go to break. And when we return, we will discuss the Josh Giddy case. Pink horsepower.

She call this thing about toxic. What's happening, baby? Baby, what's happening? Why you walking like that? That's how I walk. And then, like, you come on and breathe in on me like that. I fucking breathe to live. And, like, you used to be dark-skinned, and now you act like hella light-skinned.

You fucking blind? I'm dark-skinned. What the fuck? And then, like, look at your beard. The fuck is wrong with my beard? Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are you talking about? No, I don't even like it. The way you breathe in, all of that. Has this ever happened to you? Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset. She's frustrated. There's only one way to handle that. Pink Horse Power.

No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately? It looks so good. No! No. PHP. It works every time. Wait, where are you going? Welcome back.

So let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Celtics will play the Nuggets. Jason Tatum is at 27 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower camp? I'm going to go higher. Okay, Mace? Higher. Okay, Jalen Brown is at five rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower? Mace? I think I better have five, more than five rebounds. I'm going to go higher.

Okay. I'm going to go higher. Okay. I'm going to go lower. Okay. And Jokic is at 46 and a half points, rebounds, and assists combined. Do you have him higher or lower, Kent? Points, assists, and rebounds? Mm-hmm.

That's a good bet right there. That's really good. I'm going to go higher. I don't think he liked that loss to Philly the other night. He filled the stat sheet up the other night as well.

I'm going to go far as low on that one. Lower? I'm going to go higher. Okay. Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make

your picks too. We are joined back with our analyst Maurice Claret. Okay. OKC's Josh Giddy won't face any charges from an alleged Make your picks too. We are joined back with our analyst, Maurice Claret. Okay. Okay, sees Josh. Giddy won't face any charges from an alleged relationship with a minor.

The case has been closed. You guys have been wanting us to talk about it. So what are you guys' thoughts on the results? I didn't, you know, people get mad at us about this topic and shit. They've been pissed off with us. Like, not saying nothing about the G topic and shit. They've been pissed off with us. Like, you're not saying nothing about the Giddy shit.

And I'm like, I didn't really do too much homework on it until a conviction because I still stand on what I said. Fucking with a minor, once you do that with me, or not with me, pause, of course. Listen, once I find out you do that, I'm going to bomb on you and I'm never fucking with you again. And I'm going to bomb on you anytime I get a chance to bomb on you. So I didn't do a lot of due diligence on it. I know people have been furious with us.

Oh, yeah, I haven't spoke about that. You talk about this nigga. You talk about that nigga. You haven't talked about him yet. Because I was like, I'm waiting for a conviction or indictment to see exactly what happened. Maybe Mesa Maurice has a little bit more knowledge on it. But, you know, the most I know about it is, I know she was under 18,

but whatever state they was in, it was legal. So I'm like, let me see how this pans out and now see the charges are dropped. So I didn't do a lot of homework, but to the fans, I'm sorry. I'm not going to do that because once you're a pedophile in my book, I don't do a lot of homework, but to the fans, I'm sorry. I'm not going to do that because once you're a pedophile in my book, I don't fuck with you.

That's why I went so hard on somebody trying to call us a pedophile one day and I bombed on niggas for playing games with me like that because I don't play them type of games. So I'll leave this for Maurice and Mace if they have more knowledge about it, but there's no charges filed, so I don't have a lot of information on it. Yeah, no, so it was just interesting to me how they handle it, right? And I always, like, allegations are allegations, right?

And you've had less serious allegations towards other players, and they've been suspended, they've been hailed out of stuff, and they've not been able to participate, you know, in whatever their respective sport. And what I think people was mad at, they was like, man, was something is so serious, you know, because like when you talk about pedophilia now, everybody naturally jumps to the whole Epstein thing and everything that he's had going on. And that becomes like the national conversation.

So I think people were mad that even if accused, something should happen or some sort of sanctions should come down and they should delay him from moving forward. And I think that since it was so much information out on social media and pictures that, you know, a picture on social media automatically made people assume that she was guilty or he was guilty. And I don't know the age of the girl, so I want to be real careful how I talk about it. But I think people were mad that the NBA, who is this national organization, they were mad that nothing happened with that. Right.

And so I don't know. Obviously he's gotten acquitted. You know, they, and I don't know. I'll leave it at that because I don't want to misspeak, speak on something with something so serious. because I don't want to misspeak on something with something so serious. Me personally, I can't speak much about his situation, but I can speak about that topic. Hypothetically, you think of pedophilia when it comes to kids and adults.

I think even with the way Adam Silver said he was going to look into it, I think you got to take a different approach because it's a child. When it's adults, then you can kind of afford to let the information play out. But when it's a child, somebody should step in and do that for the child and be that protection for the child. And do that for the child and be that protection for the child. So what I would say is that even though a person is cleared now, what we've seen in our society is that a person could clear you today because they're 16 and not want to go through all of the dramatics and the drama of it and come back at 18 and need their money. So even though it is brushed off today, doesn't mean it'll be brushed off two years from now, three years from now. And that's an interesting thing to think about. Well, since the case is closed, I don't really have much to say on the actual subject,

but I do know OKC is second in the West. So now it's time for you to step it up because y'all, y'all right there. While LeBron and the Lakers went to play the Mavs, Bronny James played on the same night for USC against Arizona. But what do you think becomes the motivation for kids when parents are already financially and commercially successful?

Maurice. I don't, I, that was, that question was probably more for those two. My, my kids little, and they a lot more famous than I am and a lot more rigid than I am.

And I just wanted to hear they, like, you know, cause they have kids and like, that was probably more for y'all than me. And I heard the question about who was playing what? So basically LeBron and Bronny James were playing on the same night. But Maurice's question is,

what do you think is his motivation for wanting to play when his father's LeBron James? Like everything's. No, I just said, I just, I was just. Let me say.

No, I was going to say how I thought it. So I was thinking to myself, like if, if I'm one of y'all kids, I'm talking about both of y'all too. Like what becomes the motivation to pursue anything? So when I seen LeBron, I seen this kid, I played just to get money. I was trying to get out the hood, right? But then once you have money and you out the hood, like what becomes the motivated factor? But y'all have kids, y'all rich

and famous. And it's obvious, like just from dealing with y'all kids in general, what becomes the motivation for kids when so much of the things that motivated you to get money or to get notoriety and fame, like, what becomes that? That's what I'm talking about. I think Mace told me a funny story about him and his kids.

I don't know if he'll share it with y'all, but that's a great question for Mace. Mace. Can you hear question for Mace. Mace. Can you hear us, Mace? Y'all want me to say something? Yeah. I know y'all waiting for me to say something. But I think it's a great thing.

I also, I believe that it's more about them creating a legacy that's the motivation the motivation got to be legacy at this point to be able to do something that nobody else has been able to do it will it will speak on volumes for his genetics pause to be able to say i even got a son on the court at the same time as me. You know, I think that's that's the best thing you could you could possibly see in LeBron at this point. He's done everything else. And and once that happens, I think the quicker Ronnie turns up, the quicker LeBron can retire. I think that's the only thing he's waiting for. But what he was saying

is Mace just so you're clear on the question that you could hear he was saying not just Bronny and LeBron your kids or my kids what is their motivation with famous parents to want to create their same legacy if the parents already got

money? The real answer is still the same. His legacy is because where Cam was able to take it, your son got to take it even further because it's like Trump. His dad gave him a million dollars and he became the president.

It's always for the kid that comes after. You're an heir now. I wasn't an heir. I was in the president. It's always for the kid that comes after you. You're an heir now. I wasn't an heir. I was in the hood. So I redeemed the name. I brought the name to a level to where people around the world know this last name. But now you got to take this name to another place or it will be a horrible life for you because that name already come

with prestige you know the same way with cam or maurice claret if that kid runs on the floor and his name is maurice claret jr he doesn't get to be dropping dropping balls and paws and niggas tackling him out of out of bounds and he get up and crying he got to take that name to another level and sometimes it's a lot of pressure on kids so the motivation is to make your dad name remain that's that's because we redeemed the name but now they got to take it somewhere greater that's that was a great. I couldn't have said that answer any better, especially if you're doing the same occupation

as your parents are already doing. Like me, I have a different scenario with my son. My son doesn't want to live off my name. You know, I'm his first go-to, but I'm his last go-to. Like when niggas asked my son in junior

high school, my son has the same name as me, Cameron Giles. So they started putting two and two together. Like, yo, is your dad Cam the rapper? He says, nah, my father owns a Macy's in the mall. That's not my father. And I'm like, Cam, nigga, they're going to put two or two together, so you're going to sound crazy, my nigga. But the end of the day is, you know, we go to the same gym. He'll get to the gym. I'll go to the gym. I'll get on the machine next to him.

He just walks away from me and goes to another machine. Then I go upstairs to another machine. I say, yo, what the fuck is going on? Like, what? I don't need people in here being my friend because you're my dad, all right? So he wants to be great without me being his father. So I like that as well, too. Sometimes they want to create their own legacy

without using you to be the catapult of them creating their own legacy. Because I used to get a little frustrated. Yo, bro, you're not taking advantage of none of this shit. Because I used to get a little frustrated. Yo, bro, you're not taking advantage of none of this shit. I was supposed to catch you stealing the cars about the three times. Your mother's supposed to be calling me saying you got bitches running around the house. We supposed to be underneath a scandal

at least five, six years ago. You know, we supposed to be, your mother supposed to hate both of us by now. But he got his own path and it's a great path and i'm not mad at that so at the end of the day yeah uh if you're going in the same occupation as your parents like may said that's a great answer but sometimes your kids don't want to even do what you did to get where you're at they may want to be where you're at

doing the first being the first of whatever they want to do. Yeah, exactly. That's how my son tell me he want to go into politics. So he doesn't want me around him. He's like, what y'all do on the show is like, I don't want that associated with my name. I don't want it associated with your name. What are you talking about? I don't want to talk about myself.

He's super intelligent. I love him. I love him, but he said, you know what, dad, that's good for you. I'm glad you found something to do with your time. He hit you like you was at a nursing home, man. He's too smart. He's too smart to be amongst this. You know, anybody that used the word amongst is different.

Yeah. That's a hilarious story. But shout out to our kids. Definitely, yeah. Shout out to our kids. Definitely, yeah. Shout out to the kids, man. Yeah. And then last topic before we close. University of Miami's tight end,

Cam McCormick is granted his ninth year of eligibility. He began his career at Oregon in 2016, missed a chunk of four seasons due to injury, had a redshirt senior year, and missed a year of COVID. He was the same class as Nick Boza and Jalen Hurts. How do you feel about this? This is perfect for Kale.

All right. Listen, I have a couple of things. I'll go first. Two things. A couple of things real quick, and I'll go first two things a couple things real quick and I'll be quick about it niggas named Kim

always know how to beat the system we always maneuver our way around to beat the system I don't know how we do it listen I went to college didn't graduate high school

I'm a fucking maiden I'm a businessman I hired college there's no disrespect to that we beat the system and we disrespect to that We beat the system And we figure out How to beat the system This is a little too far

Alright This is wild Alright This is just straight up wild Nick Bosa and Jalen Hurst You're supposed to graduate Yo come on man Come on five

This is preposterous And we talked about this A few weeks ago, and Maurice brought light to the conversation when he was saying how the NCAA wants... We was talking about Pennix from Washington. Keep them around. Keep them around to make the money.

Keep them around to make the money, but this is just beyond anything. This is just beyond that. Like, come on, guys. And I'm not talking to you. I'm just like that. Like, come on, guys. This is, and I'm not talking to you. I'm just like, I'm really speechless about it because, like I said,

when we play, you get one injury year for redshirt. That's just that. You get hurt and you keep getting hurt. You missed out on your opportunity because I would have been hurt

every year when I was playing college. I would have been played in 94, 95. I would have played in 2006 minimum if I could keep getting hurt every fucking year. Hey, will you say he's been in college almost a decade,

but that sounds like a long time. Yes, yes. What you got to say, Murdo? Yeah, when we were growing up, we called that a bust. We called that a bust. If you keep getting hurt and it take you extra years to do it, people give up on you faster than they do now, obviously, because for them to be the same age as Jalen Hurst is crazy. Yeah, and then the way I look at it from an NFL perspective is you're missing years on playing in the NFL.

And how good are you going to be when you get to the NFL if you keep beating up on kids every year? You know, at this point, you're a full grown man playing against kids. It ain't like you're 22 playing against 18-year-old or 23 playing against a 19-year-old. What are you, 27? 26? You're playing against

18, 19-year-olds and beating up on them. So if you ever do get a tryout or make it to the Columbine or whatever it is, NFL, you're going to be in for a rude awakening because you've been beating up

on kids for the last decade. Nigga. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think if you're that age, you're supposed to be dominating everybody. It don't matter who you're playing against.

You're like two colleges past. Yeah, you're supposed to be in law school at this point, nigga. Two masters, bachelors, associates. Come on, my nigga. I always have a different viewpoint. I'm not saying

he should be playing. Like, I think, like, you know, go for your dreams. I'm kind of past the football part. But as far as finessing the system

and getting a ninth year, Miami is such an expensive school. Like, before financial aid, it's $80,000 a year. That's free education. So if you're in it just to get your degree,

then shout out to you because you finessed the system. You're getting a free education from the University of Miami. So go Canes. What I was saying, listen, listen,

how many years did it take you to get your degree? Three and a half. What is it? So he's have three degrees. Well, I don't, I don't know.

Maybe he's getting his masters. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe he's getting his masters or I don't know what his education is. Cause I had a lot of football players who were like engineering or like doing law school at the same time. Like that's the school I went to. So I had people who were doing more than four years.

And that's just what I seen. I was just used to it. They're like, look, I want to be an engineer. I don't even know if I'm going to make it to the league for real, but I can play football and get my education for free. I can go back home and then I'm getting, you know, six figures right out of college. Like that was some of their mentality. And then some of them really were just, you know, doing it to get into the league. But between COVID, like because already going to college during COVID was crazy. Like, that changed everything. So I don't know what mentality they have. And then I think being told that your dream isn't achievable kind of midway through,

kind of hard for some people to realize, especially if football is all they know. So different situations. But in this situation, yeah, I think the football part's gone. But hey, he's getting education for free. So that's what I think. Then when I play, nigga, get out there for two games and say I'm hurt. He might. No, I'm saying it.

I'm digging what you're saying, nigga. Like, I really want to be an engineer. So I'm going to act like I want to play football and then get hurt on purpose so I can go get. If that's what you're doing, I ain't knocking it. That's the plan. I think we missed in the obvious, right? and then get hurt on purpose so I could go get... If that's what you're doing, I ain't knocking it if that's the plan. Hold up, but... I think we're missing the obvious, right?

If he was hurt, he should have had all the time in the world to go get his education already because he wasn't playing. Duh. Talk to him, man. Not if you're going to keep...

I don't know. I don't know his situation. Maybe I'll interview him to be honest because I got questions too. Yeah, man. Maybe Mo should be there for the tougher questions.

Put it on the ice. You just never know. But Maurice, thank you for being here. Mo, thank you, man. I appreciate you, man. Yep.

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