IT IS WHAT IT IS - JOKIC VS. SGA FOR NBA MVP, ARE THE PISTONS A SLEEPER & CAMRON'S CLASS!! | S6 EP40

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

Cam'ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are here with another one!! On this episode, are the Thunder the team to beat this year in the NBA?! Jokic vs. SGA for the NBA MVP, Lebron's monster season at ag...e 40, the Pistons getting their flowers for this season & a lady says she won't let her kid wear Anthony Edwards sneakers because he's a bad parent! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga
Starting point is 00:00:19 Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus credits with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Treasurer Wilson, AKA STATbaby, along with your host Cam, and Mace will be back. Cam, how you doing? I'm good, I'm good, how you, STAT? I'm great, everybody was good. How you stat? I'm great. Everybody was getting on me about that lot,
Starting point is 00:01:08 that lyric that you had about the guy biting the girls. I'm caught up now y'all, cause everybody was on me. No, it was crazy. I didn't even know I had, I forgot I was in my bars, the Marv, I bite on my hose like Marv Albert. That was like my first single I put down.
Starting point is 00:01:21 That's how long ago it was. But yeah, style. See, when I talked about yesterday, you looked at me like I was bugging. I had a little banter with Bace about it. You were writing in your computer, like I just be up here making shit up. I know I got a little history stopping around a minute.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Yeah, I just learned something new every time I come up here, down to the Woolies, down to the... I'm like, it's always something I've never heard of. Y'all, like, I didn't have that. Like, I did't have that. Like I did not have that. Yeah, I was talking. No, cause one day I told her where the wooly was.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I was like, what is that? I don't even know how we got the wooly. I don't remember. But I remember telling her, yeah, you know a nigga smoking wooly's and all that. And I said, Starr, you know where the wooly is? She's like, absolutely not. I said, yeah, don't let a nigga pass you a wooly.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I don't know if you smoke weed in your off time, but. I don't. But yeah, don't ever take a blunt from somebody that's already, that you didn't see them roll it up. Just some advice if you ever choose to indulge. You know, lesson learned, I don't indulge, but for those who do, now you know, because I didn't. Listen, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:02:24 One time I was in Florida in the club in diamonds, this before was King of diamonds, or they had a King of diamonds, I was in diamonds. And they got diamonds, I ain't King of diamonds, man. You know, you wasn't, I don't think it was born. I know what King of diamonds is. No, I'm sorry, I don't think you was born when I'm talking about this.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I'm here. Maybe you was, maybe about three or four. Because they had diamonds. It wasn't the reason I mentioned it wasn't the king of diamonds yet. It was just diamonds. And I was in the club and I was smoking a blunt and shot to my nigga Trick Daddy. Trick was in the club with me, or not with me.
Starting point is 00:02:59 We happened to be in the club together. And I was smoking my weed, he was smoking his weed. I was like, you know, at this time, niggas share blunts or whatever. He was, yo, I really appreciate Trick for that, man. He was my nigga, he said, this bump. And I was like, okay, I don't want bump, because I started smelling the difference.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I was like, oh, that nigga, thank you, Trick. That was my nigga for letting me know that. And that was a lesson learned for me, like, nah, I don't care who you are, who you are. You might be smoking bunk and I don't smoke bunk and you might not tell me it's bunk. So from that day forward, I don't share my blunts, nothing. I don't even, like, I don't even share blunts with my niggas.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Like I give them their own shit. Not saying they got germs and that. It's more than enough weed for everybody to have their own personal shit. I used to run around, I get ounces, my periwals, besides my pants, I have my ounces and I pay people a dollar. Dutch Master used to come in a 50 box,
Starting point is 00:03:55 I pay people a dollar, two dollars to roll a whole ounce and run around Marblance in a Ziploc all day. That's how much of a weed smoker I used to be. But yes, that Marval was biting on them hoes. And I was trying to tell you, and I know you probably didn't know that, but I'm glad you got a little history lesson yesterday and learn some things, man. Love the history lessons I get up here. Y'all, I learned something new every day.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Yeah, there you go. This show is not just sports, it's education. About life. Yeah, Life lessons for sure. Okay. So the Thunder beat the Celtics 118 to 112 and in return clinched a spot in the playoffs. Do you think this is the Thunder's year? It sure is looking like it. Um, look, like I said, in the seven game series, it matters.
Starting point is 00:04:46 You had the game the other day, right? Where OKC played Denver back to back. Why'd it be back to back? First game, OKC look good, they beat Denver. But the next night, they lost. In the seven game series, you make adjustments and you figure out exactly what to do game to game. It isn't like you beat Denver and then go on to play Boston
Starting point is 00:05:16 and go on to play New York, go on to play the Lakers, or go on to play whoever. Seven game series, you sit there and you learn your opponent. It's a game of chess and you figure out what's best. That's gonna be the key for Oklahoma City. Can they beat anybody in the NBA? Absolutely they can beat anybody in the NBA. What it's about, can you beat them in the semi-game series?
Starting point is 00:05:35 Is this their year? It look like it. Shay, that nigga Shay is looking, Shay's looking fucking incredible, bro. I know there's one of those situations where a nigga like this motherfucker Doc Rivers, none of where niggas like, this motherfucker Doc Rivers. None of them niggas like, what Doc Rivers got to do with this?
Starting point is 00:05:49 Doc Rivers got rid of motherfucking Shay. Shay was with the Clippers. I know people know that. Niggas was all Paul George crazy. Oh, we gotta get, we gotta get Paul George. We gotta get Paul George from OKC. When Paul George OKC, to get to the Clippers, now the Clippers don't got dog ribbers, Paul George,
Starting point is 00:06:10 or Shay, but I know getting rid of Shay got to hurt looking at how good he is right at this particular moment. So, I'm not gonna do that just yet, because that was a test for me when we was in the house watching the game. We said, now if they beat Denver two nights in a row, because it was literally back to back, then okay. But they didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:06:30 And that's what's gonna concern me for OKC moving forward in the playoffs. How they play seven games, a seven game series against particular teams. But do they look like one of the best teams in NBA? Yeah, that's another thing. I don't know if we talking about that today, but it's the same situation with the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Cleveland Cavaliers is looking crazy. Like, almost like the Harlem Globe Childers. Almost like, you know, in recent memory, Golden State when they won 73 games that year. I know they're not gonna do that, but I'm saying that's how good Cleveland looks. Is this gonna translate in the playoffs in the seven game series?
Starting point is 00:07:06 And that's what really matters. But it's for asking the court to answer the question, does it look like this is okay to you? It looked like that. But sometimes, you know, a lot of shit look like a lot of shit. You know what I'm saying? Deceive.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I'll tell you one day, I told my nigga, my nigga Shug bro, Shugadooga was about to take off. I had to grab the nigga, I'm grabbing nigga by the shirt. He said, Cam, you see that bitch? I said, it's not a bitch, Shug. Why it's not a bitch? I grabbed his shirt so hard, it ripped a little bit, he's trying to get the,
Starting point is 00:07:39 said you missed it, you was in the store, I seen that nigga walk past, man. Everything ain't what it looked like, my nigga. She said, good looking. I said, I got your back, nigga. Yeah, I'm gonna say definitely the Celtics should be scared because looking ahead, this could be a potential finals matchup.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I think both of these teams have been very consistent. And even in this situation, the Thunder has a great starting five. They have a great bench and even just going against Jason Tatum. I know everybody's like Tatum can't do this. Can Tatum can't do that? But going against OKC and then still losing. This is kind of like their best matchup overall was a good game. We're seeing both teams put up a lot of points. And of course, you know, and we'll get into SGA. He's in the MVP conversation. best matchup overall was a good game. We're seeing both teams put up a lot of points.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And of course, you know, and we'll get into SGA. He's in the MVP conversation. This is kind of that level headed matchup that we want to see. And it's entertaining to see it from both of these teams, but even down to OKC having a younger roster and still being able to, you know, play like this against the defending champions. The South have a lot to worry about. So I'm excited to see kind of how these things, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:44 translate over their next games that they're going to have. But at this point, I don't want to say it too early to jump the gun, but it is looking like it's OKC's year and I don't want to just go with it because, oh, like, OKC is having a good year. And like, I know Cam, you're always saying, like, don't be a prisoner of the moment, but we've seen it for them this season. And I think that it will translate on. So I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I'm happy for them. I think that they're having a great year and then their coach is doing great. Just everything has been good for them. Even when they've had injuries and when Chet was out, they were still able to continue winning games, which is something that the other teams are struggling to do when they have players out.
Starting point is 00:09:20 So shout out to OKC, but that will bring us. Did Poisinga's play? Poisinga's playing this to OKC, but that will bring us. Yeah. Did Porzingis play? Porzingis playing this game? No, he didn't. Exactly. So, sorry I had to lie to you like that. That's what I'm trying to say. Listen, I think OKC, I'm not disagreeing with you.
Starting point is 00:09:39 If this is a year for them to win it, they gotta win it, but they're young. And listen, and this could be a test of time for both these organizations because Boston is young. I think OKC is the second youngest team in the NBA right now, if I'm not mistaken. But the playoffs is a different animal. The players are different animal, but I'm not disagreeing with you. I do think that this is OKC's year if they're going to win it. But to put them against Boston now, I think both Boston and OKC got some work to do before we actually see a finals appearance. I think Denver may have something to say about this.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I think one team in the West that has Denver's number is Minnesota. If Denver could avoid Minnesota, then Denver might be in the finals as well. But it seems like Minnesota is their kryptonite. We've seen Cleveland Cavaliers bust Boston ass this year. So it looks good game to game, but. Summer game series is different and Poisoning is in play. Poisoning is a big factor in contributing this whole thing. I totally agree. But we always say the best ability is availability.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And we've seen it among both teams. And the Thunder has been able to get it done when Chet was injured. And even down to Denver, like I know we're talking about this damn stat, their standings and stuff like that. The Grizzlies are with them right now. They're both 42 and 24 record, which I'm not going to lie. I'm going to say I didn't expect the girls to be at this point. I know we're looking at Ja, but it's like, I didn't expect them to be at the same standings
Starting point is 00:11:10 as the Denver Nuggets right now at this point in the season. So anything is up for grabs. And that's why I know it's early to say, but I'm going to put my stamp in early because what I've seen from OKC, I think they have it in them. Like I said, I think they've remained consistent. So I get your point too. But from what we're seeing right now, I'm gonna say it's their year.
Starting point is 00:11:28 No, listen, they look great. And listen, not only do they look great, they have a, and I think that's what's gonna decide, we'll talk about later, but they have a really big gap for us between them in second place. I think it's like 11 games. And they won last year in the West,
Starting point is 00:11:47 but I believe they won by one game or half a game or two games. It's a clear cut, decisive, not decision, decisive that we could see that they are the best team in the West. And you're right, the best availability is availability. And when that nigga, Port Zingas, is available in the finals, he makes a difference. Because he wasn't available around this time last year. And they made sure he's available in the finals.
Starting point is 00:12:14 And Dallas looked pretty bad in the finals. Matter of fact, everybody, it looked like a clean sweep when they swept through the East. Put Indiana on the bed in the Eastern Conference Finals. And then I think Dallas won one game. They look really good, but you're right, Starr, he got to be available. But I think that's part of the reason he's not playing certain games like tonight. Yeah. So he could be available.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Yeah. I do think that this game was a wake up call for the Boston Celtics. They did snap their five game winning streak. And even though, you know, you always say like the players nowadays are like nicer, they don't have as much of that grit. Like this really should be more of a rivalry. Jason Tatum versus SGA when we see them on the court, because they both have really good accolades. And I want to see more of that kind of grit between both of them when they're on the court. So hopefully that's, I think now gonna kind of show, you know, for the next games that they have, but.
Starting point is 00:13:10 They cooking. No, no, I totally agree with you. I think the problem is, and not a problem, that could be a rivalry. They only play twice a year. That's the only problem is that. But you're right, don't get it fucked up because Magic and Bird was a rivalry
Starting point is 00:13:24 and they only played twice a year. So if you get to the championship, both of them, then it's gonna be a real rivalry. But yeah, absolutely right. Even though they only played twice a year, I don't think I have the same thing because it was a whole racial shit going on with Magic and Bird and the type of shit.
Starting point is 00:13:39 But when them two niggas played, it was a problem. Them niggas, see that's what I'm saying now. You wanted to see that because Magic and Bird was in the league about six years, seven years before they actually spoke to each other. The first time they even spoke to each other, they had to do a converse, a commercial or some shit. And a nigga asked a nigga if he was hungry.
Starting point is 00:13:59 After they been playing against each other about eight, nine years, you ain't gonna get that. But I don't know if it's gonna be a rivalry to where, to where they don't like each other. I like SGA because SGA don't care. Like I'm not from America, nigga. I cook y'all niggas, nigga.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Come on, come on down. Every last nigga pause, I will cook y'all niggas. Even like today, I walked in right after my nigga Beezer was telling me high. He put Jalen Brown on skates. Fuck you, Jalen Brown. Come get some of this work, nigga. You acting crazy?
Starting point is 00:14:32 The rest of the game, first of all, Jalen Brown fouled out. Fouled him out. But the rest of the game, after he got on skates, he had the little white boy. I can't think of a name for my boss, little short nigga. Richard.
Starting point is 00:14:44 You get him, Richard. I ain't got time for this SGA shit. Yo, Brits, you go out to be at, Brits go out to the nigga full court. You think the rivalries, the rival, cause like I watched that game tonight and they don't really say nothing. He don't say nothing.
Starting point is 00:14:57 That's what I'm saying. He's very quiet. He's like a real assassin. Like he don't say nothing. Like, you know, Magic Nib was coming out talking shit. You know, like the niggas clothesline the niggas. Like these niggas ain't built this way no more. I think that my opinion is,
Starting point is 00:15:11 rivalry isn't the same rivalry as the past. It could be rivalry, but I still like you, pause. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like rivalry, niggas ain't like each other. Michael Jordan, and like I said, I'm not telling these stories to go back in the days. I'm talking about niggas used to be in Chicago. Michael Jordan, and like I said, I'm not telling these stories to go back in the days of Michael Jordan. I'm talking about niggas used to be in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I just hear players talk about this because I was a kid when this happened and they would have to play the bulls of Michael Jordan at a restaurant. Michael Jordan would try and invite, let's say, the Knicks to the restaurant. Y'all go eat at my shit. No, we ain't coming to eat at your shit.
Starting point is 00:15:38 We don't have to fuck you up too. We don't want to speak to you, nigga. Nah, nigga. You know now, let's say for instance, right, Jason Taylor got a restaurant in Boston, he tell SGA come through. SGA's going through. Like, hey, let me go check your restaurant out, man.
Starting point is 00:15:50 It's a different type of rivalry. But as long as we have competitive competition, that's what it's about for me. You can like each other all you want, but let's play. You ever see, and Stein ain't too young for this, this was six years ago, seven years ago, when Cleveland and Golden State was going through their little shit back and forth career.
Starting point is 00:16:14 LeBron was, it's the face, fuck is wrong with you trying to take the crown, nigga? Stuff like his mind is taken, nigga, niggas was beefing, like fighting, but they in each other's face. Now mind you, that's how competitive it is because LeBron is sitting there yelling at Stuff Curry in the championship, and then you flash back four, three, four years later for that.
Starting point is 00:16:34 LeBron's in the crowd at Stuff Curry College game at Davidson, watching him play as a superstar. LeBron was already a superstar in the NBA. He watches a young Steph Curry in college, damn this kid is good. Few years later, they beefing with each other on the court over a championship. You can like a nigga pause and still be on the court
Starting point is 00:16:53 like I don't fuck with you on the court. Me and this man right here, Bzo, my nigga right here, this my nigga since I was probably 11 years old. Hang out, all type of shit I can't even talk about on the show together. When we on the court, I don't fuck with this nigga. I don't like you. I don't, yo, we might fight.
Starting point is 00:17:11 It might turn into a real fight, all that. And if I don't like the way we won or lost, I won't speak to you when we leaving. And I call you, I'll see you when I see you. We might not speak for like a month over a basketball game. Word to mother. It's like that. Like niggas grab their bag and walk right off and look at each other
Starting point is 00:17:30 and see whatever I see, nigga. Fact. And then we cool a month later. Like, be like that. So how would it happen when you guys were cool again? Like, who would say something first? Because at that point... We'd be like in the projects.
Starting point is 00:17:42 We'd all like, like it'd be like, because we all got mutual friends in different projects. We'd hang out and then be like, I walk in the projects and Bezo, because Bezo would be in there. We didn't necessarily live around each other, but we all hung out in one area. So he'd be in there, like, what's up, nigga, what's up? There's enough time to pass by. It's been like three weeks. It's stupid. Yeah. To the next time.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah. Yeah. I think people, especially like the generation nowadays, takes things way too personal and especially with just like the addition of social media and stuff like that, there's always a trail of things. So even if you try to go back and say something after, it's kind of like, oh, you're coming back on what you said. And it's like not like it was really never that deep. And I'm just saying something now about it because it didn't have to be that deep.
Starting point is 00:18:23 But because that footprint is there, people feel the need to like, I already said this, let me just not say anything at all. That's what I think it kind of comes from. And I think it translates on the court too. And at this point, I think SGA takes a better route by kind of being quiet, but we would like to see more of that.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Yeah, absolutely. And now that we're talking about this, I want to give a statement of apology to a friend of mine, my man Dave Sweet. He used to play with us and shit. You know what I'm saying? That's my nigga. And one time, this is how crazy it is, right? Like we got a little, we used to play for some drug dealers
Starting point is 00:18:54 and shit, you know what I'm saying? And they would give us money and they was my niggas and all that. But one of our homeboys that was down with the team showed up with another team. One day at this tournament called Ray Diaz and coach Dave was mad and rocking them and my niggas shot Dave and rock and everybody was like, this nigga didn't even speak to us. So nigga Dave sent the hit out on the court and had me do some wild shit and like clothesline this nigga, go into the basket, foul this nigga mad hard.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And I was like, I'm just doing what nigga told me to do. And you just went us on the projects like two, three, so how you sure with these niggas? So more of the story, you know what it is, what it is, and Dave's my man. It was all, for me it was all basketball. If it led to fighting later, I didn't, we didn't care, but I really wasn't the purpose.
Starting point is 00:19:43 But the more the story is, is that my man, the purpose. But the moral of the story is that, my man, the coach of that team, Coach Dave, went to see Dave Sweet. He lives in North Carolina, South Carolina now, somewhere. And he brought that up to him, like three months ago, like, yo, why you gotta care him do that shit? And I'm like, damn, this was like 30 years ago. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:20:01 Yo, Dave, I was on the mid, they put me on the mid shit. I ain't got nothing to do. I was watching the show. I ain't got nothing to do. Blame Dave, the nigga you went to see. I thought the nigga was talking like you took a pack and stole it. I didn't know what was happening, bro. I just was doing what I was supposed to do. Sorry Dave. Life you've lived. Okay, so you and May started discussing it a little bit yesterday, I want you to kind of go more in depth. Who would be your pick for MVP?
Starting point is 00:20:30 Right now? Yes. Damn, man. This is really, really hard, bro. Pause. Look. Hard. Yeah, look, man. Subject to change, subject to change.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Because we always say we learn something new every week. It's subject to change. The thing about it is this. Because SGA and the Oklahoma City Thunder have such a big lead on the West, it's hard for us not to give it to them. You know, we always equate MVPs with winning most of the time. Not just with winning. Let's think about this.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Last year, even this year, right? But let's go to last year. Boston Celtics, well-rounded team, won the East by a handful of games, and nobody was in the top two mentioned for MVP conversation. This year, Cleveland, I had in the East by several games. Nobody's gonna catch them with Thomas all over.
Starting point is 00:21:24 There's nobody on Cleveland mentioned in the MVP conversation, even though, pardon me, Donovan Mitchell, Garland, Mobley, nobody's even mentioned for this conversation. So we do equate it to winning, but sometimes is it about winning? Because nigga Joker is out here doing some wild shit, bro. Yo, the nigga's some wild shit, bro. Yo, the nigga's doing wild shit.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Now don't get me wrong, SGA is a walking bucket. He's doing shit that we haven't seen before. But when you think about the Joker, right? If you look at him, I'm talking about statistically. If you look at the stats, his stats this year are better than any of the three years he won the MVP. He won the MVP and with worse stats than he have now.
Starting point is 00:22:10 The man's in the top three in points, rebounds, and assists. Assists is just wow for a center to be in the top three. To be in the top, and listen, man, I don't know how much the game changed, but when I played, I was getting wild steals. The center wasn't getting steals. Could you just double check?
Starting point is 00:22:30 Cause I remember looking at this stuff the other day. Is he fourth in steals? Let me see, cause I don't want to get corrected. But when I was watching this shit, I don't know, my eyes was deceiving me. I just zoomed in. And the nigga was fourth in steals. So I'm like, yo, who the fuck is a center
Starting point is 00:22:48 that been in the top five in steals? So this nigga's playing all over the motherfucking court, which is crazy. So not just points, not just sharing the rock, not just getting rebounds, and he's fourth, thank you Nick, Nick just confirmed. So he's fucking top five in wild statistical categories. Not just statistical category categories.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Pardon me. Categories that's usually guard dominated. When I say guard dominated, it's usually a point guard who's the most assist for the season. When I say steals, it's usually a guard. And I don't start leaving a point guard, a two guard, maybe even a three for most steals. The man is fourth and assist.
Starting point is 00:23:34 If I gotta give it to somebody, look, I either go against the black. He black? I don't know, he Canadian black, which I fuck my Canadian niggas too. Them my niggas. Fuck with them niggas up north. It's the homies.
Starting point is 00:23:51 But I gotta call it like I see it, man. I gotta go with the joker. Now look, let's think about another thing, right? Let's go real quick stat to Google the most amount of MVPs in the league ever. And let's think about this. If he gets one more, he gonna have four like LeBron. You ever notice they put a halt on LeBron for MVPs?
Starting point is 00:24:14 LeBron should have at least nine MVPs. It got to a point where they like, yo, slow this MVP shit down with LeBron now. It's been plenty of years, LeBron did not get the MVP when he's supposed to get the MVP. I don't know about this year, B, but he third in my book for this year.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I would definitely get- At least his name should be in the running. Yeah, I would put him third right now. I'll put him third, but I'm not even talking about the run. I'm talking about years he should have won. He should have won a few times. Don't get me wrong, it's niggas who was about that Derek Rose and all that. It was a few times. Don't get me wrong, it's niggas who was about Derek Rose and all that new,
Starting point is 00:24:45 and it was a few niggas. It's mad years, LeBron James should have won. But you know what it is? Four is almost like the limit, cause you know why? Mike got five, Oscar Robinson got five, Will got five, we can't start giving the new niggas six, seven, eight, nine, 10 MVPs.
Starting point is 00:25:04 We gotta keep some, a reason for a nigga to check the history books. We gotta give a nigga a reason to go back and say, let's not forget how this shit went on. Nigga gonna stop LeBron in the height of his career for MVPs is kind of bananas. And listen, I was, and Braun my nigga, that's like my nigga, but the point being is,
Starting point is 00:25:24 they, I'm not saying this, a bunch of you are like, he might deserve it, he might deserve it, not talking about whoever got it. But if you think about it, LeBron deserved the fucking MVP at least seven times, eight times, minimal. And I think that's what they're doing to Joker, they're penalizing him for winning the MVP previous years, and so they're not gonna give it to him this year,
Starting point is 00:25:44 my opinion. Yeah, so Kareem has the most at six, and then Jok're not going to give it to him this year. My opinion. Yeah. So Kareem has the most at six and then Jokic, if he wins it again this year, he would be titled LeBron and Wilt Chamberlain. And then above them is then Bill Russell, Michael Jordan. So I think, like you said, yeah, people are a little. Yeah. They don't want their one thing is busting out the World Works force in this new era, having more than Wilt Chamberlain and Kareem and Mike and all that.
Starting point is 00:26:05 There's no reason in the world LeBron should not have at least seven MVPs and I'm being nice with seven. But I think Joke is being penalized because his previous MVPs. But am I mad if Shay get it? Absolutely not. But how the fuck you get two triple doubles in one game?
Starting point is 00:26:22 You get two. The only thing about this discussion though is like, so if SGA does win it, right, then it paints a narrative like Jokic was robbed, like his wasn't deserving. And it's like, SGA still did have, is having a really good season. He leads the league in 50 point games with four. Like he's still putting up those numbers stats and it's hard because I totally understand where you're coming from at the same time. But it's really hard to go against Jokic's numbers and what he's doing at 611. So it's like, what do you do in this scenario?
Starting point is 00:26:54 I don't know what they're going to choose. My pick would still be Jokic because it's like, you can't deny it. But then it's like, if SGA doesn't get it this year. When is he? See, that's the next and that's the point. And things are the same way. If we don't get rid of the SGA this year, we ain't going't get it this year, when is he? See, that's the point, niggas, the same way. If we don't get it to SGA this year, we ain't gonna get it. Go play again next year.
Starting point is 00:27:10 What are you talking about? It's another year, fuck he going. Yeah. What you saying? Yeah, I don't know if they ever did that for the league. I know they do it at the All-Star game. I ain't never seen that for the league. That's a good one, but look,
Starting point is 00:27:28 it's hard to argue with these motherfuckers. Look, 6'11", like Stats said, forget the points, forget the rebounds, steals and assists is crazy. It's crazy. But yeah, I've seen that question too, Stats. If we don't get with the SGA this year, when are we gonna get to him? He's fucking 24, 25, right?
Starting point is 00:27:44 Got another, 23, I don't got about another 12, 13 years. Go get your rebails, assistant, steal something, nigga. So I like, and don't get me wrong, I love, I love SGA cause you know what SGA gives me pause when I'm watching him? He gives me the void that we might've been missing for a while, you know what I'm saying? Like we was looking at mid-range game, that sling into the basket. It ain't really nothing too special. He could get in the bag, but he ain't got to get in the bag. Get to his spots. The midi is good.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Get to the basket, fizz around the basket. He's decent from three. He's giving me Kawhi-Lennon vibes and we're not getting Kawhi-Lennon vibes from Leonard vibes from Kawhi Leonard. So I'm happy with SGA. It fills that void. So hypothetically speaking, if there was a co-MVP, would you like that for them or you don't like it? I wouldn't be mad at it. I was thinking about that before PT even just mentioned it. I was at home about a month ago saying But I don't think they would like it. Hell no. I don't even like it.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I don't even like it because it feels sorry. Like, yeah, let's just give it to both of y'all because we can't give it to Yocage too much. Like, nah. Make your decision. And the person who doesn't win it, if it is an SGA, just go. Because he is like that.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Like, he has the power to prove he's like that. And if people don't keep talking about him, they gonna keep talking about him, but he gonna continue to be a silent assassin and put it in the numbers that he does and not whine about it and show y'all on the court, which is what he does. So, hey, I'm against co-MVPs,
Starting point is 00:29:17 but I do think this season it wouldn't be crazy if Jokic won for a fourth time. So- I think personally, to be honest with you, it would have been crazy. What happened is last year, Jokic sprained his ankle, whatever injury he caught about two weeks before the playoffs started,
Starting point is 00:29:35 and he sat down. He was supposed to win last year, and that last two, three weeks, they gave it to Joel Embiid, because he missed probably the last 10, 11 games of the season, because he wanted to make sure he's good for the playoffs. But he almost won this shit last year. But he just took the last 10, 11 games of the season because he wanted to make sure he's good for the playoffs. But he's almost won this shit last year.
Starting point is 00:29:47 But he just took the last two weeks off to make sure he's good for the playoffs. Jokic is on an unbelievable run and it's hard to argue. So with that being said, is Jokic, in your opinion, the best player in the league right now or do you think? Absolutely. Adios. I don't see any, let me, you know what's funny
Starting point is 00:30:08 and I thought the nigga was being mad disrespectful when he said this shit. Caldwell Pope, when he was with the Nuggets or when he first, after his first year with the Nuggets or whatever, and we all know that Caldwell Pope also played with the Lakers for a minute. And they asked him in the locker room, I was like, yo, you being wild,
Starting point is 00:30:28 just respectful Caldwell Pope. But now that I understand he's played with the Joker, been around the Joker, won a ring with the Joker, et cetera, they asked him when he first got finished, not finished, I don't know what part of his career was, when he first got there, when he won the, I don't fucking remember, of his career was when he first got there, when he wanted to. I don't fucking remember. But I remember them asking him,
Starting point is 00:30:49 what's the difference between LeBron and the Joker? What makes the other person better? And Caldwell Pope said, I don't know, maybe LeBron just jump higher. I don't see nothing else that he'd do better than the Joker. And I was like, now you being disrespectful, Caldwell, you out in the fuck out, you being wild, disrespectful. Now, like, maybe he wasn't being disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Maybe that nigga was in practice seeing some shit the rest of us wasn't speaking. You been practice with, you know, we see him on the court, court. But you got to realize we see people on the court. We don't see practices. We don't see things that go on behind the scenes. And luckily I've been blessed because I have a few coaches in the NBA
Starting point is 00:31:30 where I've been to NBA practices and so on and so forth and see what it takes for them to get ready for games, preparation and so on and so forth. But looking at Caldwell Polk when he said I was mad and now Caldwell my bad, when he said I was mad and now Caldwell, my bad. I get it. I get it. The best player at NBA. Yes, to me. Absolutely. I'm not picking nobody else over the Joker right now.
Starting point is 00:31:55 We have to start a team right now today. And we're saying, who do you want to get? I'm definitely going with the nigger. This top five and four different categories, this 6-11 and can do everything. Yeah, no, I can't even disagree. And I know like people have the argument about LeBron, but he's putting up all these numbers at his age and he's losing league and I get it. Two things can be true at the same time.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Right now we know that Jokic has been balling and literally like him said, I think anybody would build a team around him because he is that starter that can literally do everything at 6'11". So I'm going with him for sure. Yeah, and real quick, yeah real quick. Listen, LeBron was the best for a long time and LeBron right now is probably top three, top four in the NBA right now if you wanna argue.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Shit that he's doing is amazing. It's nothing short of spectacular. I'll sit there and get amazed every night. Nigga coming through the lane, switching hands on. LeBron acting like crazy, he is shooting. Listen man, it is exceptional what LeBron doing. Like I said, for me, LeBron would be in third place for MVP votes right now.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Purely alone with the Lakers being in third place. They wasn't second when he got hurt. For them to be in March about to be with one month left in basketball, you would have never got me the better dollar in October to say, what place do you think the Lakers would be in right now? And March going into playoffs, second place, even though they're in third now,
Starting point is 00:33:19 something about before he got hurt. Brand new coach, we all thought JJ Reddick was some hand-picked nigga from LeBron, which he might have been. Pardon me, which he might have been. But the shit working out. Shit is working out. Shout out to JJ Reddick and LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Rob Pelink, a Genie bus, the organization is looking good right now. So I don't wanna shit on LeBron because I think Joker's the best player. But shit, LeBron been the best player. LeBron played his 22 seasons. LeBron probably the best player. 16 years, 17 years.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And when he was, since he's been playing, it had been, you know, like you might have the argument around 2008, probably 2008 to 2013, 14 with him and Kobe. Outside of that, he's been the best. Okay, so the Lakers will play the Bucks tonight. Obviously LeBron is out with a groin strain and will be out for a couple games. But looking at this roster, so Luca is noted as day to day, Ru Hachimura is out and Jackson Hayes is out.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Only. Semi good for I'm gonna say he's good. That's their starting five is Austin Reese right now. So Underdog has Luca at thirty one and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower? Lower. I think I mean, don't get me wrong, Luca can get it. But I don't think Lucas. That was really bad. That was poor. That was really bad. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:46 That was crazy. That was really bad. That was really, really bad. That was really bad. That was bad. That was bad. You know what? That was a good one, Poison,
Starting point is 00:34:57 but I'm so disgusted with what I said early in the year. That was like, yeah. When you hear that one back, and I know the way I said it was real calm, real, I'm gonna call real SGA. That was crazy. It's false that it's like, listen, you know, I'm not petty. Yeah, nevermind.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Nevermind. Nevermind. I let you go edit man's shit over there. I don't edit nothing. I keep everything I do for a scene. Can I say, I rarely, rarely, rarely edit anything out. You guys get the true... I never edit nothing out.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Never. There's a couple people up here that's the edit masters. I live it, I'll spit it, pause man. But yeah, that was crazy, you're right. Luca can get it, was crazy. But I'm so mentally fucked up from what I said early in the year that it's hard, pause. See, go down rabbit hole, forget it. No, lower.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Got it. Luca will No, lower. Got it, cool. Luke, I'm gonna go with lower. Great, Yannis is at 12 and a half rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower? Damn glad you said that. I had called T.A. back. He called me on the way here earlier. He should be higher.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Look man, Milwaukee really disappointed me, man. Because that year that Milwaukee won the championship, it looked like they was about to go take the East Coast over, go on a run, Yonis looked like he was unstoppable. And they already drew for Damian Lillard. Damian's my man, shout out to Dane. Got Doc Rivers back in there in the middle seat. I don't know what happened with the organization that quick, but to answer your question,
Starting point is 00:36:47 he should have more than 12 rebounds. Look, them niggas better rev up. They better rev up, because playoffs is coming up. And not only is the playoffs coming up, we need to figure out what's going to happen with the Yonis, with Yonis in the playoffs. I believe last year the reason they didn't win is because Yonis got hurt in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:37:03 He didn't play them games, and they would have ended up being in Indiana, my personal opinion. But you got to be available. You got to be available. I'm going to hire them. Okay. Make sure you guys download the Underduck app and you can make your picks too. And then just real quick before we go to break, you heard all the injuries that I kind of
Starting point is 00:37:20 listed for the Lakers and I feel like the Lakers were on such a high, like just with JJ Reddick, Luke Atrey, LeBron's back. Boom. They got, yes, it's Jackson Hayes, but you know, you have a center. How do you kind of expect things to go for them for these next couple of games? Like, do you think that the record is going to fall drastically? Like, what do we kind of predict? Or do you think that they'll, they'll be able to hold off for a little bit? They should go fall. They lost to for it. They lost to Brooklyn overnight. They lost to Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:37:48 These niggas was on a crazy winning streak. I forget how many games it was and seven. Yeah, it was crazy. Might have been more than that because of me. I remember Mase said they lost a certain amount of games and I looked at this shit and I'm like, niggas on a fucking 12 game winning streak. But you're a Laker fan, B-Soul, you know better than me. Know I'm saying how many games it was.
Starting point is 00:38:07 But I just, whatever. Yeah, they gonna lose. They just lost to Brooklyn. They lost to Brooklyn. And that's another testament to why LeBron James should be in the finals. Not the parming, not the finals. In the conversation for finalists, for MVP.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Sometimes when you're not present, it shows how much, how good you are. Not being there shows how much LeBron James is needed on that team. So, yeah, it's gonna, they gonna fall off dramatically. Yes, I really do believe that the quicker they could get LeBron James back, the quicker they'll be all right. But I think with Luca, what I was about to say before we did the picks,
Starting point is 00:38:46 is that I don't think Luca's 100%. I think that he was mad about the trade. I think that he rushed back to make sure he'd get into a little bit of shape to still play because he felt the way about the trade. But we gotta remember when this trade happened, he wasn't even playing. He was hurt when he was with Dallas.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And then when he got traded, he got better in about two, three games and rushed to get back out there. I don't think he's 100%. And I think he looked decent with LeBron because LeBron is LeBron and they was on the court together. But I don't think he could hold it together by himself with that particular roster without LeBron James. What you think, B? Let me get B. You're a Laker fan. Go ahead. The way we might, I'm scared we might have to drop into the playing. I'm really scared we might drop that bad beat. Word, I'm dead serious.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah, listen, it's a month left for basketball and teams are tight. Teams are really tight. So you might just fall into the playing. You don't want to go from second to the playing. That hurts. I know y'all. This is Mase's team, apparently. So you got that. You got that. OK, so the Pistons, are they legit? We will discuss after the break.
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Starting point is 00:41:17 Yeah. Welcome back. So we're going to discuss the Pistons. They're currently the sixth seed at a 37 and 29 record. So Shaq talked about them. He was talking to his co-host Adam Lefkoe. He said, bro, stop it. They're boring too. They aren't winning a championship.
Starting point is 00:41:44 He said, you want to brag about a team that's 32 and 26, which they are 37 and 29. Stop it. That's not success. 40 and 20. We talked about it. Detroit Pistons ain't winning no damn championship. Stop it. Do you agree, Cam, with Shaq's take or are you going to give the Pistons more credit? Do me a favor. Tell me the Pistons record last year real quick. Yeah. Look I just saw my nigga Larry And I'm being honest with you. I told my nigga Larry yo place me a bet on the Pistons
Starting point is 00:42:17 14 and 68. There you go. What in the year before that? 1468 last year and then tell me the year before that 17 and 65. There you go. So I um 1468 last year, and then tell me the year before that. 1765. So, I was telling the nigga Larry, I said, yo, go place me a bet on the Pistons right now to go to the championship. Or was I at the Eastern Conference? I was at the Eastern Conference, because I'm gonna spend a little shorties,
Starting point is 00:42:43 I don't gamble like that outside of underdog. I only gamble with underdog. But I'll spend that real quick because if they go, they go. If not, I probably would have spent a little money on some bullshit anyway, because I don't gamble. I'm not no big time gambler outside of underdog. All my money goes to underdog,
Starting point is 00:43:01 because if I lose, I'll figure a way to get it back. Shout out to the team, baby. Code cam in the building. But I just said this, like, I get, see, it's a lot, you know, Shaq comes from greatness and it's hard to impress Shaq. You know, Shaq don't fuck with Dwight Howard to this day
Starting point is 00:43:21 because Dwight Howard tried to be superman one day and it just didn't work out for Dwight Howard. And he been trying to be Shaq friend ever since, and Shaq will not fuck with him. I seen some shit recently, I don't know if it was Superbowl or some other shit, and Dwight Howard tried to reach out, not reach out, I don't know where I read it at. And Dwight Howard said, yo Shaq, let's be friends.
Starting point is 00:43:41 He said, no, I'd rather hang out with winners like Rob Gronkowski. You go about your business basically. He told the way Howard, I'm like, it's hard to impress Shaq. So, I'm gonna have some leniency to the Detroit Pistons. Like you know the nigga Shaq is rude. Shaq got Donovan Mitchell on his show
Starting point is 00:44:02 and they interviewed him after the game. He told Donovan Mitchell, I don't think you like that. I don't think you can lead a team to the championship. To me, you just not like that. You all right, but trade. Darwin Mitchell like, all right, what can you say when a three-time, four-time champion,
Starting point is 00:44:18 but a person who three-peded, wins the championship, and was the MVP three of them times that he won the championship? So it MVP three of them times that he won the championship. So it's hard to impress Shaq. Me personally, I don't know about if Detroit Pistons are gonna win a championship this year, but they absolutely should be talked about. Them niggas was in the trash.
Starting point is 00:44:38 It was a time when niggas, for real, it was a time last year, Pete, where Sports Center would start the show off with them to see how many games in a row they lost. It was leading the show with, okay, did Detroit set the record? They're creeping up on it. They lost 14 in a row. The record's 19.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Up is 17. And they're going to, like, leading ESPN off or SportsCenter off with that. So for them to be where they at now, I have to talk about the Detroit Pistons. I have to give them some props. And I'm gonna be honest with you. Sin City is a super duper duper Nick fan. He said he don't wanna play Detroit in the first round.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Out of all the teams, he said, I'm scared of Detroit. Them niggas a little rough and tumble. They got a little bit of veterans on the team, but they got them young guns, you know, we all expect people to blossom as soon as they get out of college or as soon as they come to the NBA. And it took Cade,
Starting point is 00:45:34 Cuddeham a little longer than the average person or the average superstar, because he's looking like one of them niggas right now. And for the first couple years, they're like, oh, he ain't doing it. He's number one pick, he's number one pick. That's why I really don't go that hard on Scoot. Scoot in Portland, I get on them niggas
Starting point is 00:45:51 about not living up to expectations with Damien Lillard and CJ McCullough. But they young, they got some time to get to it. And this is a situation where Cade Cunningham, he didn't blossom as much as y'all thought he would in the beginning. Got some good pieces, got a coach that's finally fitting in with the system. And the Pistons to me are looking good. They're actually right now, what? They look like they're not even
Starting point is 00:46:14 going to have to be in the playing. They're four games above Atlanta. Like I said, we still got a month left for that sixth spot. And let's think about this. If, if we, if the, if it ended today and they have time, think about the teams that's in the playing. You got Atlanta, who would be in the playing, Orlando Magic, the Miami Heat, the Chicago Bulls. All those teams will be in the playing and the Pistons win. Now we still got a few games left to tell, to see where that end up. But shit, no, I'm giving the Pistons props. I can't agree with Shaq, but I never won four championships
Starting point is 00:46:51 and finals MVP in the league, MVP in all the accolades that Shaq has. For me, congratulations Pistons. Y'all keep doing the fuck what y'all doing. I like it. Yeah, we definitely gotta give Detroit props, even just in general for the sports here that they've had. Like they have something to be excited about.
Starting point is 00:47:05 They completely, like Kim said, flip their seasons around. We talk about other teams who have star players who have a lower record than them all the time. I don't think it makes sense to just throw them to the side because just because we don't think that they're going to win at all. They still deserve to be talked about. I mean, Cade Cunningham is doing his thing. They have Osar Thompson, the twins, which even over there with the Pistons and over
Starting point is 00:47:28 there on the Rockets, they're both doing their thing to buy his hairs. And I know they're a younger team. And when you hear the players, everybody's like, that's not as sexy. Flashy is talking about LeBron James, Steph Curry. They should still be talked about. We'll see because they're inching up more and more and more as we see their standings go. So I think Shaq, I don't want to say it's hating because it's not hating because he has All the right to say the things that he said with the type of player that he is and he does hold people to a high
Starting point is 00:47:54 Standard let me make that clear. I'm not calling Shaq a hater I'm just saying he feels that way because you don't want to really talk about them and that's fine But that doesn't mean that we should discredit what they're doing, what they've done this season. That's all I'm going to say. OK, so this next segment, I'm just going to call it Cam's class because you have a lot of advice for people. I want to make this like an advice moment rather than just like we're going to talk about it. And that's that.
Starting point is 00:48:22 So a mother went viral for discouraging her son to purchase Anthony Edwards sneakers because she said he doesn't take care of his kids. So just to give a little bit of context, but not too much because nothing is completely verified. You know, a lot of people, especially now, say a lot of things on the Internet and claim people. So I'm going to just say this is a legend. She claimed that Anthony Edwards didn't want visitation of their new daughter that they had together.
Starting point is 00:48:50 So just hearing that the mother, you know, took that as a moment to tell her something like, you know, I don't really want you buying these shoes. He doesn't take care of his kids. What do you think of that situation first? And then just in general, we talk about a lot of athletes who are doing great and there is always something on the side that comes to light more often than I feel like we would like it to.
Starting point is 00:49:13 What advice would you give to these young athletes and players kind of dealing with women who are actually at the top of their class in their sport doing their thing? This is a long question. Let's just do one at a time. Let's do the first part. First, the mom's saying, I don't want you to buy those sneakers because he doesn't take care of his kids. This is a random mother. This isn't the baby. No.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I was saying, now you gotta get the baby some kids. Some shoes. If you're that's, I thought the mother was trying to say that. All right, so this is a random mother. Yes. Saying, we're not gonna buy Anthony Edward's shoes because he doesn't take care of his kids.
Starting point is 00:49:48 All right, just before I answer this, what kids he not taking care of? So the new baby mom that she's claiming that he doesn't want custody of that kid is saying, so that's a new child. The baby's here? The baby's, yeah, the baby's here. How old is the baby?
Starting point is 00:50:04 She's four months. How he, yeah, the baby's here. How old is the baby? She's four months. How you can, the baby just got here. Like, yo, what's y'all P? She been here 62 hours. Yo, what you, yo. Nigga, I'm gonna take care of the kids as well, my nigga. They can't even get a blood test. Alright, yo, let me get a blood test, my nigga. What you talking about? You don't take care of the kids is wild, my nigga. They can't even get a blood test. Guy, let me get a blood test, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:50:27 What you talking about? You don't take care of the kid. I just, because I, I just want to make sure I'm clear before I get to this. They know it's his. So she's saying it's his. That's why I'm like, elect, elect, elect. Because of course he hasn't spoke on this situation.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I'm saying what she said. Very, very, very, very clear. OK, basically, let me give you a little more context. So the woman is Aisha Howard. She said alleged text claiming that he asked her to get an abortion, asked for her to get a DNA test. But she refused. And then she said she tried several times to resolve the situation privately before exposing DMs and text messages between her and Anthony Edwards.
Starting point is 00:51:13 So she's saying that this is his kid. I don't know what happened in the back. That's yeah. So just from what you read, yes, he requested a DNA. Did he get it? I from here, I don't know if she's saying that it's his kid. And she's sewing the messages and stuff between them. A bitch told me I had a kid. I took the DNA. She said,
Starting point is 00:51:32 I was bugging. I got, bitch said, you know what? I was drunk that night. I was fucking, yo, word to blood. Bitch told me, bitch from the Bronx, years ago, yo, I'm pregnant. I went up, my fucking stomach dropped in my legs. I said, I said, you pregnant? I look, she's like, yeah. And I'm like, shh. Like maybe I had a little pound puppy, a little pre-k,
Starting point is 00:51:53 because I was, my pull-out game is crazy, nigga. My pull-out game top notch, nigga. I'm your 70 Sam, nigga. Pull-out, nigga. So just for more cooperation. Damn, nigga. So just for more cooperation. Yeah, God, first time. This is I just had to make this. Yeah, I need to know because I don't want to be.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Well, I know, because it's not like it's not like he posted like this is my kid. Like it's saying paternity tests was done and it later confirmed that he is my kid. Like it's saying, paternity test was done and it later confirmed that he is the father. But again, he's never posted anything regarding this situation. This is all from her. But it's a DNA test out there.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Paternity test says that it is his kid. Where does test come from? No, cause niggas is- No, you're right, you're right, you're right. This all needs to, this is what, this is a problem with media. And this is why people have so much problem with shit with the media is cause it's not about reporting what's right. It's about reporting what's first. And sometimes what's first don't mean what's right. You know what I'm saying? So this is why I'm asking these questions because you sit there and
Starting point is 00:53:02 just jump on what's out there and it might not be fact. Everybody's in a rush to put first, first, first, but it's first fact. That's the question. So that's why I'm being questioned. We can sit there and say DNA test and see if you have a DNA test and he might not have participated. It could just be a random test, but go ahead. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:21 So this is what it says. He urged the court to order a paternity test which confirmed he was the father. He later moved to dismiss the case and later said that he would neither pay child support nor seek visitation rights for his daughter. So it's a legal court document saying that he's the father. Yes. All right, I can move on then.
Starting point is 00:53:38 You know what I'm saying? I think that, listen, I'm more compassionate at my age, at this age. 23-year-old Kim, we gotta take a few more tests. I need my doctors on this. 23-year-old Kim would have been fighting the pain. My daughter would have been fighting the power, my nigga. At 23 years old, see, cause at that age, I wasn't sure if I wanted kids and all that.
Starting point is 00:54:13 And then when I like, I do want a kid. Then when you get a kid, you like, nah, this my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo. But I remember, not 23, cause I had a kid when I was 24. But like 18 year old-old, 19-year-old? Nah, but refusing to take care of the kid, you don't have to take care of the kid
Starting point is 00:54:31 whether he wants to or not. To me, this sounds more about attention and putting it out there that he doesn't want to be bothered with you. Now, he doesn't want to be bothered with the kid. He's young, he'll come around and when he comes around, you may not want the nigga to come around and be like, fuck it, you missed out on his life X, Y, Z.
Starting point is 00:54:51 But I think that sometimes men are more angry at women for not doing what they want them to do in that situation. Yo, get the fucking abortion, man. I trusted you. The gold raw in you. Now you gonna keep it. Yeah, you shouldn't have went raw, nigga. Fuck you. Fuck you going raw. You know you even got that weak pound puppy, that pre-comp, or your pull-out game weak. Everybody got a good, when you don't got a good pull-out game pause, you better hope you like the ivory, Keenan ivory and them niggas.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Everybody wearing that rich. Cause you bustin' and you get these kids and you can't pull out and then you can't take care of them. And now you sitting there, that's why I told niggas, I told one of my niggas, he get to y'all go can't, I got a baby shower. I'm not coming in no more baby showers, hell. Fifth baby shower so I can keep bringing you pampers
Starting point is 00:55:43 and money and nah, I'm not doing it no more stop Stop having baby shower to give free gifts I'm saying for real man. I'm not doing it no more with that nigga man. Keep inviting me every other year I'm having no you're 60 nigga Not doing it bro, not doing it Get more gifts. So basically... That's what it means. You made me want the free shit. So basically to conclude again, because we're just seeing...
Starting point is 00:56:11 I'm not concluding, Scott. I'm not concluding. Oh, you... I'm just veering off the topic real quick. I'm not concluding. I'm not your kid's godfather no more. They just trying to throw me into godfather. Yo, kid killing you, you know killing me and wifey was talking. Nah, don't talk. I don't even, man, I ain't even me wifey.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I'm not the Godfather. You're not gonna keep trying to throw me in there, Pete, because y'all don't want me to be the Godfather so I can keep bringing shit every year. I only met the nigga twice. Now I'm the Godfather. Nah, I'm not the godfather, man. I'm not doing it, man.
Starting point is 00:56:46 They just keep thinking, because I'm loving it a little better. Yo, you know, killer the godfather. Nah, man, nah. I met the nigga twice. He 19. You know what I'm saying, P? Nah, man. Your pull-out game is weak.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Start striping up. And that's just that. But I think the answer to your question, Ant-Man will come around, he's young, I get it. He's more mad at probably the situation than at the baby. Now with social media, don't make it any easier that the girl keep putting it out there, keep putting it out there, keep putting it out there.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Cause from what this sounds like, it don't sound like it was his main bitch. Now you gotta deal with whoever may be your main bitch. So you're having side babies already. One thing is for sure, two things for certain, is that Ant-Man has a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of money. And before this all's said and done, Ant-Man gonna make a billion dollars out the NBA.
Starting point is 00:57:37 He signed the deal for 235 million. That has nothing to do with his endorsements outside of NBA. And now we see the salary cap growing up year after year. He's 23, but time this deal he got over is over, probably be 20, 25, 26, get another five year deal that's probably gonna be worth 400 million. And then when that deal's over, you get another one for about 500,
Starting point is 00:58:01 and he's gonna be rich. So the baby will be taken care of. Miss, don't worry about your baby being taken care of if you took a DNA test and everything else. Sounds more like you wanna be with him, and I don't know if he wants to be with you. But as far as the baby being taken care of, I doubt that that's not gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Will he be in the baby's life? That's another story. But the baby will be taken care of. Now back to the second part of this question. What the lady's life, that's another story. But the baby will be taken care of. Now back to the second part of this question. What the lady saying like, oh we don't buy Anthony Edwards sneakers because he don't take care of his kids. The baby's four months old.
Starting point is 00:58:36 This sounds like the female who has the kid, friend, and be like, yo, go make a video real quick and say Anthony Edwards don't take care of his kids and we not buying his sneakers. This is a relative who did that shit. This is a dead ass relative, a sister, a cousin, a best friend, a neighbor, somebody from the projects at GQ, whatever, it ain't no way, look,
Starting point is 00:58:57 I just had to get to the gist of the story. The baby, four months, how you know he ain't taking it, it only been month to month child support, right? You only gonna miss four payments, right? There's only four payments. Four payments, how you ain't take care of the kid? Cause now the court result says that since, they'll get that four months back and more for the future.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Stop, yo, this was her friend who did that. That was a homie. I get it, you down for your home girl. I can't be mad at that. did that. I was a homie. I get it. You down for your homegirl. I can't be mad at that. I will say basically after that, just because I want to say that, the baby mom did say when the mom was like, you can't buy the shoes, she responded. She said, I'm not sure if this child knows of Anthony's personal issues and if he doesn't, I think it's unfair to take away the part of Anthony that he does admire, which is obviously his basketball talent.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Anthony is a great player, but the mother is in control of what she supports from a moral woman's standpoint. So she said that after the mom told her son that he can't get the shoes. Who said this? The baby mom. I know it's a lot of people. Aunt Baby Mom?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yes. The one that's mad? Yes. She did that for PR to clean her sofa. Yo, go out there and say that ain't shit. And don't buy your sneakers. And then I'm gonna follow up and be like, let's not look at Anthony Edwards like that.
Starting point is 01:00:14 And let's look at the good side of yada, yada, yada, yada, to try to act like she's a clean cut woman. You gotta watch this premeditated shit, man. Everything is plotting. Yo, go set it up. Double back, cause you know why? They already getting on me, cause they mad at me talking about he ain't take care
Starting point is 01:00:31 of the baby and I ain't child support. Let me clean my shit up real quick and act like I'm one of these people. Look, you know what be bugging me out? I know bitches, right? And Instagram and Twitter and everything else, they get certain followings. And they be like, oh, this is like Mace.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Like I'll use Mace's example, and this is not a new trader. Mace was like a hardcore super duper rapper. Like his lyrics, he had tough lyrics. And Puff, when he seen him, he seen the girls like them. No more murder. All the, start rapping about the bitches. Start rapping about,
Starting point is 01:01:06 all right, that's what he's gonna get the check. Put murder away, I made dollar sign eat. Boom, he saw the records. And what be happening, I'm just using that as an example. When you get, when you find out where your bread is at, that's some time where the lane you take. Same thing I brought up on the show before, our flow rider shot the flow rider pit bull. These niggas was rappers. They figured out that pop shit was where they lane takes. Same thing I brought up on the show before our flow rider shout out the flow rider pit bull.
Starting point is 01:01:25 These niggas was rappers. They figured out that pop shit was where they chicken at. I ain't see they can spit around again. For what? This is where the chicken at. I'm booked for the Super Bowl. I'm booked for New Year's Eve. I'm booked, fuck I'm rapping for
Starting point is 01:01:37 and this is where the chicken at. I say that to say this is that a lot of females, these bitches be birds. And they put on a suit one day and hold a briefcase and they be like, oh, she's so sophisticated. Oh, look at her, she's smart too. Oh, she, oh wow, she has a high paying job, six figures. Why, cause she told you that?
Starting point is 01:02:02 Bitch got more roaches and followers in the house, man. This is what you're talking about. I don't let these bitches fool you because they went and bought a suit. When I bought a skirt suit. And then they sit there and put the paperwork in front of them like this. Like they with a pen.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Bitch ain't signing shit. Ain't doing shit. Niggas too. Niggas do it too. I'm just saying. This is one of them shits. And I could be wrong. I'm not dissing niggas babymothers or nothing, but they like, let's do a quick Instagram PR clean up. Me and my homegirl. What it sound like to me? I could be wrong about this, but a lot of times I'm not. She also has a kid with Lil Baby. There you go.
Starting point is 01:02:51 No, but like, no, but like. And love it? She got a kid with Lil Baby. There you go. Good luck. But see, AOP, and I bet you ain't got no money. In between babies, she was selling eyelashes. And hair.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Yeah, she had some eyelashes and got her own boutique where she sell hair and pocket books. Real quick, I will just say, a baby is involved. So I'm hoping the baby is taken care of. She figures out what she got going on. Anthony Edwards continues to ball and they all figure it out. And listen, let me let me tell you something, man. This is all speculation because I haven't spoke to Anthony Edwards,
Starting point is 01:03:40 but through a few people we cool after the commercials. And I'm cool with little baby Baby too. That's my nigga. So I'm not trying to dish out God's baby mother. I'm just saying what statistically goes on in America. So no disrespect to you guys' baby mother. But this shit happens more times than not. Hey, Cam's class is now out of session. That is all the time that we have for today.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. Thanks for watching!

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