IT IS WHAT IT IS - KNICKS BROUGHT THE BROOMS OUT, EMBIID'S FUTURE, ANTMAN'S BIG GAME 4 & WIZARDS WIN LOTTERY!

Episode Date: May 11, 2026

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Welcome back to Today's What It Is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stap Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Cam. What's good? Killer, what's good? How you doing? Shit, everything good, man. I can't complain, man. How you doing?

I'm great. Good to see y'all. Okay. Ready to talk about these basketball games here. So, Nix, we're going to start with the Nix because we got a sweep after the Nix advance to their second straight Eastern Conference finals after beating the Sixers 144 to 114. So the Knicks have won seven straight playoff games for the first time ever, Mace. So my question to you is who do you think is the X factor for the Knicks?

That's not Jalen Brunson or Kat and how'd you feel about the game? Start by saying I might have brought them some luck. Are we ready to say that? Are we ready to say I might have brought the Knicks some luck for real. I think you see what happened when I wear New York hat man they go they go crazy they go crazy shout out to the game Jalen Brunson and all now let me stop this is gonna be really interesting it seemed like that Philly just folded like a beach share man I don't know what this is about Philly that was disgusting for Philly to go out that

You know, that game was over. It just, it was sad watching, man. I don't remember Philly being like that. Like, losing by that many points is just ridiculous. It was just, it just had every bad sign. Every bad sign was connected to that game. But shout out to New York. I mean, there's so many things we could talk about.

I'm going to let killer. and then I'm gonna come back with the rest of what I'm gonna say about the... But, hey, Kim, I... I don't know why you just don't never say what you gotta say. You wait for me to do my take and then after you just build off what I say. It's a pattern. We already know what's gonna happen. We get it.

Bitch your line step-law. A bitch you line step. Really? I'm, it's sad that I can't talk. Wait, go ahead. Talk. You just said you was gonna let me say, say what you're saying. what I gotta say, but this is what you do.

You say your take, I say my take. It's my first point. My bad, sorry. You're my bad. My bad, my bad, my bad. That's crazy. I'll go to every take since we start this show. I'll say a point, you'll be like, yeah, that's what happened.

That's what you do, every show, even though you go first. I'm not gonna say your point. I'm gonna add to the, conversation. You know they can see you, right? You know that, right? You know they can see you. Let me start by, let me start by saying this.

Yo, Nick, can you put up that picture real quick? This is the problem right here. That picture I sent you earlier. Look, there's a party tonight. It's a party. Look what they're doing. It's a party. This is exactly what happens.

It's a sweet part. party tonight. It was fun. I would go. I ain't gonna lie. I would go. Of course you would. Of course you would go to a party about celebrating where they got last year. Look, I'm not going to say and say with the Knicks aren't looking exceptional. The Knicks, look, regardless of anything, they're smacking teams by 50 points.

The finished product says 30, but they took everybody out in the fourth quarter. They smacking niggas by 50 points. This isn't the Washington Wizards. They're smacking league MVP's, all-stars. They're smacking them around like little children. Not only that, you know, even though Philly beat Boston, which has a finals MVP in a championship, it's still no excuse for this, man.

It's no excuse if you're to Philadelphia 76s, man. They set a, they tied a record for most threes and a half with 18. three points and a half. Look, Deuce McBride, you would have thought he was Cal Culver, Dale Ellis, right, whoever shoots threes, you would have thought that's who Deuce McBride was. Not only that, Jaylen Brunson,

look, we ain't got to talk about Jalen Brunson. The question was, who's the X factor? Think about this, the last two games, they don't even have OGN and Inobly. So think about that. It's a bunch of different people. I was telling Sin, before this series, even starting up before the series,

I'd be like, yo, a nigga name is Landry on your team. Imagine going to school, Beth, and your name is Landry. Yo, Land, what you doing, Lance? Landry is, I don't like the name Landry. Landry out here buss and ass. Nobody in Philly can say nothing about Landry, man. McKell Bridges then came alive. It was just 10 to 12 days ago

that niggas was talking about getting rid of the team, firing Mike Brown, they need to make check. changes when it's Jan is coming and then now everybody's it's a party tonight it's a party tonight man so um shout out to everybody on the Knicks at the new york organization now mike brown you're on the clock this is officially why they brought you in tom tibito made it here last year you are on the clock starting right now to get the new york nix to the championship that is your If they don't win, then listen, it's a step further. But you, Mike Brown, this is where your money is supposed to be earned right now.

So congratulations to the New York Knicks. They're looking exceptionally well, but I don't think they're doing anything that they wasn't supposed to be doing now. Of course they're winning by 50 points, which is amazing. I'm not going to take that away from them. But Beth, were they supposed to lose the Atlanta? Were they supposed to lose to? I'm not celebrating.

I want to get that stuff. You said you wanted to get a lot. I'm not showing up to the party. I don't care. You can go, sink and go, Josh can go, Stephen A can go for all I care. Yeah. They have to be. They get these, man.

Listen, man. I'm going with that. The Knicks, even though it's by a large amount of points, they're doing exactly what they're supposed to be doing. You wasn't supposed to lose to the Atlanta Hawks. You wasn't supposed to lose to the Philadelphia 76thes, especially with Joe Lombiege coming out of surgery two weeks ago. So congratulations on doing what you're supposed to do.

Congratulations getting back to where you was at last year. So it looks amazing, but we've been on this high already. It's a party last night, Beth, the sweet part. This is the shit I'm talking about. Are they going to start naming names after people again? I don't know. I'm not going for it until that clock hits zero and the Knicks are in the championship. And I've seen them in the championship twice since I've been alive.

They got to win them games, man. They got to win them games. Yeah, Beth. That was, yeah, you got my bad. Yeah, I'm in Detroit. I think K. comes in there, man. You know, K goes crazy.

In the garden. This is a team that is known to spank. Pause the Knicks. This is a team that beat them by 25, beat them by 22. You know, different 20 games. I don't see why they were celebrating. This is like, this is like, you know,

celebrating you got Drago next. You got Drag on next. Well, to add on to your point, the point differential this year is 28 points difference in the three games that they lost, their 0 and 3. Now, I will say is this. They're two-on-one against Cleveland. Now, Cleveland didn't look that bad last game,

but are you going to get that from James Harden every game? That's the point. James Harden had a terrific game, not even terrific. He had a decent game last year. So the home team has won, talking about Philadelphia, pardon me, talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Detroit Pistons. Now, I think this game goes six games with Detroit winning, but they got to get one on the road of your Detroit.

To me, the best three teams in the East Coast all year are still in the picture. So we'll see what happens with Detroit, because one thing for sure, two things for certain. Tobias Harris is going to have to keep playing the way he's playing. Jenkins is going to have to come off the bench and keep playing the way he's playing. because the Knicks are playing literally 13 people to 14 people a night. Mike Brown isn't doing what Tom Tibido did. He's rotating players, getting minutes from everybody,

and everybody's kind of producing. It was only two players, Joy Clarkson, and I can't remember other players, I got to look at my notes, they didn't even shoot a three yesterday. Everybody was shooting threes. They were raining threes, man. Oh, So Han. Yeah, so on. They went in Philly with no mask,

And went in their house and did a home invasion, murder. It was ridiculous. It was, it was. I can't celebrate. I said it. That's what I was saying. Trent Tucker and them, what they were called the bomb squad?

Yeah, yeah. He's called how that turned out. Yeah, Xavier McDaniels. We've been there. We've seen it, man. But listen, real quick, the X-Men. Listen, hold on. We got somebody.

You celebrating actually on line one. The New York, the head of the coalition, John, go ahead, man. Yo, listen, man. Y'all know what it is. Turn that shit up a little bit. You can. You're not going to give us no credit?

Credit. Would you hear this time last year, Josh, just accent, just action. But did it look like this, though? Look at what's going on. Check the call. This is the coach. Y'all say how.

Y'all say how. That's it. That's it. That's it. Yeah. Tom Timidale wasn't living like this. This is a celebration of moving on. So you saying I shouldn't celebrate, Kim.

I know how you are. I shouldn't celebrate the night. No, no, you shouldn't. You was here last year, Josh. This was the same thing. I'm not saying if you don't make the championship. Listen, I've been alive. been allowed to see the Knicks make it to the championship before?

Yeah, 99. All right, then. So you've seen this movie. You know, you are eight games away from celebrating. You celebrating too early. I see you out there. Did it ever feel like this, though?

Did it ever feel like this? Hey, yo, watch your mouth. Watch your mouth. Watch your mouth. Watch your mouth. We went in closed out games by 30. Did it feel like what? Pause.

Hey, yo, watch the mouth, man. Yo, muscle. You know, the muscle. You know, the muscle. Time to watch his mouth. You know, look. To offset the pause moments, I got the car, Phil. Y'all say hi one more time?

Yeah, that's a little bit. Okay. So let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, Josh. Did you all do anything so far that you shouldn't have done? Sweet the Celtics? I mean, I called them the Celtics because that's who was supposed to be here.

I'm sorry. Sweet the Sixes? You thought we was going to do that? No, I'm not going to lie. I didn't think that. No, there. That's all I'm saying. It's about overachieving.

I said it the other night. Mace, it went viral. Overachieving, we did it again. Who's next? And it's looking like the Detroit pick is the questionable. That's what we got a question. We were so sure it was going to be catered. them. But I told you all they got the

Wack Thompson brother. I said it. So let me ask you this. Who would you rather play Detroit or Cleveland? Detroit. Why would you want to play Detroit? Because we beat them already. That's why

the same team. Who you like? You like you like Kay? You know, Mace. Mace. He liked Kay Cunningham? Because that he was dead last year. You like Jayland Duren? He was there, too. What about Thompson?

He got crossed out the picture to end the series. So who you were lying on? Tobias Harris, who's from Long Island? If you wasn't making the work out here, you're not going to make it work out there. I got us in five. And I might be being generous. What you said? Don't disrespect Long Island.

Who? Don't disrespect Long Island. No, we're not doing that. Yeah, you know who that. And first of all, let me get him off the thing because he's looking at it. First of all, Josh, Josh. Josh. Josh, Josh, you're from Queens.

You're not from Manhattan. How are you going to do this Long Island? I'm saying, I'm not from Manhattan, but that's where we go to war at. You already know that. You're from Harlem. That's like, I'm from up to block. Me and Mesa actually from up the block.

We could come back when we want. So why are you wearing Celtic Leathers? Because the next half they won. We see, see, Josh, you're not old enough to see the disappointment. That me and Mesa C. You see? Look, look. And this is why I said,

everybody in our age, bracketing shit, look up to you. You out here wearing Celtic shit. I'm like, this is why we've been losing. We've been looking up to the top of here now. I'm here now.

I don't want a dip set jacket. It's me. It's me. You don't age out. You're wearing a Stephen A suit. Dad. You first, you first take now.

Go ahead. Let them know. Send two. Send to, Mason's at least like, yo, they winning, I'm gonna fuck with the Knicks. Cam still hate him. Josh, let me tell you something, Josh. You know where I'm from, Josh? Where you're from?

I'm asking you, you know where I'm from? I know where you're from. Where I'm from? Harlem. Harlem, right? My team, the Globetrotters, we never lose. You from Queens, you should be rooting for the Mets, nigger. Fuck is you talking about, nigger.

Glob charters never lose, nigger. We're global. Fuck is you talking about. Watch the mouth. Yo, you know, you know, you know, you know what you're going to do. Yeah, murder. You know, he said, you know he said some bullshit when you got him to say more than one word. This one right in.

That's all right. That's all right. I'm laughing and saying two words to me, word. You must have made it. You must have made it. You don't have no, what happened? Yo. All right.

Listen, Josh. Josh, we got, we got, we got to give you the last 90 seconds. What do you got to say about the winner? What do you have to say about the future for the next coming up? Jalen Brunson, I guess me calling him Michael Jalen Brunson. That's validated a little bit because you sweep in people that you thought we considered and be the lead. What we think about them now. And that's what Mike used to do.

When we used to look at people so high on calm alone, all-time score at the time, John Stockton, all-time assists, you just. You're just washing them up. That's what Jalen Brunson is doing. We question his personnel all the time. McCall Bridges, you ain't worth the seven picks. Cat, you sold. Josh Hart, you like playing with thumbs and stuff like that.

Jalen Brunson is the constant piece that's going to get us to where we're going. It's time to overachieving. Y'all know what overachieving is. So let me. Josh, you was believing when y'all was down to one, because I didn't hear this supplement from you now with the Atlanta series. Now you just ain't let me on the show.

Now, I bought you on the show because of your energy. Exactly. I don't switch. I never thought we lose to Atlanta. I'm like young talking now. No, we ain't. It's all about who you got rep in your city. Who's back in Atlanta right now?

Who's back in who we just be? Philly? Who's even? No, I ain't. All right. So you want Detroit, and if you get Detroit, how many games you're going to win it? Files. So Nick's going to the championship in five games.

Oh, you said I'm wild, right? So Detroit, Detroit got that same type of team. Detroit got that same type of team that Philly got. You got Maxie, Maxie, not a dog, 28 a game? Yeah. You hadn't beat former MVP. He came back. He smoked a Celtics.

y'all thought they were just going to beat us right not one game beat them by 40 in the close out we really here and it's time for y'all to accept that i'm here you know what is spike lee he don't be hitting the waves like i am like i'm on y'all show poking my shit they watch it they watch it they're watching they're watching they know i'm out here act crazy if you want you're getting traded mike brown you act crazy you getting fired i'm out here calling them out that's it i got a plenty platform i got y'all now all right first take well steven a show Well, listen, listen, Josh. I told you, sweet.

Sweet. You too quiet for me. You can't think y'all going to beat. No, I'm texting. Like a second. Josh, you think you're going to beat Detroit in five games? Yo, you know Detroit, you know Disney World just took on the seven? Disney.

Disney World? Who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, what's that player? Which one? Ben Chiro. Ben Chiro. And that's another thing, hold on. Yo, stop disrespecting Landry Shammit. We don't even call him by his first name.

Like, we don't call rapists by their name. We call him Dammit. And he represented today. Nigger name is corny, my nigga. I don't give a fuck. What you call? It said, nigga name is corny. I ain't hanging out with no nigga name Landry.

I don't care what you said. I don't care if he has several race. We know we have a sucker, my nigga. We wait for our opponent. His name is Landry doing. He couldn't sit at the lunch table with us. His name is Landry. Now, what about,

yo, what about E.T? That alien, that 7-5 robot that somebody programmed and put out here. What they doing? Is it 2-2? Yeah, my nigga had the elbow tonight. They had the elbow-n-kid. Yeah.

Oh, let's see what. Oh, no. You know what's, listen, we're going to talk about that next, but before I let you go, I let you know what's going on. Because the Knicks looking good and because O KC is going

the probably sweet Lakers, they are extending the other series. So expect them games to go six, seven games, because they need the TV money. Josh, it's been a pleasure to muscle. The muscle. The muscle was it's always good seeing you. We'll see you.

We'll watch it with that. Don't know what you. Don't know that. Don't wrote that. Don't want to. You started it. You called him the muscle. You literally called him that. Now it's stuck. I look at somebody try you. That's what I'm saying. See, he loves.

I want to. Yeah, I love, look. We're going to call me East the conference finals when them bump. When we find out who y'all play, we're going to have you tied back in, man. But I love it.

Go enjoy it. Go enjoy yourself tonight. The sweet party. And have a party. They're banging on the window. They're banging on the window. I got to go. All right.

All right. Get them out of here. This is the shit I'm talking about. It's not going to stop. No, listen. It's not just him. It's millions of them. It's not just, listen.

They're paying on the window. It's crazy. Yeah, man. Mace, this is exactly what we're talking about with the New Yorkers, man. And that's why I love having them on the show. Pause. They waste too much energy and only to get there and get let down. You know what I'm saying?

This is what we call it. This is that heartbreak train that they are on right now, man. Yeah, but you're just, You're also wearing the hat. So at this point, I feel like anything can happen. That's what it looks like. See, the thing about it, the, sorry, May, Scott. Sorry, no, no, no, go ahead.

I'm glad that the hat gave them, you know, some more energy. So if they lose after this, it wasn't on me. Unlike you, Stach, when you got involved, the team lost. You had that jink. You had that juju with you. Me, I bring good favor. I bring blessing. You see, they won 40 points after I put the hat on.

I can't put the hat no more on. Pause. I'm going to run with that. See, the thing about it is this, man. The reason I love having Josh on the show because he's actually the spirit of every New York Nick Finn. Sinners, too, he's just not as animated.

Josh is really outside the garden. He's really outside. He's really outside. Grabbing girls because of nepotism. You know why him I'm his nephew, nigga Stephen A, look, this is him right here. Real quick, Mace, I want you to see,

I want you to take a look at Josh real quick after game three of this series real quick. This is Josh right here inside the club. Oh, wow. He's in the club with a broom. This is a guy. This is the club. It's just

this the club, man. He's walking around the club. He would piss me off. He would piss me off. If I've seen him, I don't want to go to no sweet party. You don't want to go now. No, never mind. Why you don't want to go now?

Nope. You walk around a broom. I'm good. He's walking around a club. What a broom in the air, man. This is what they act like, man. And listen, man, they've been here last year, man. They all looking really good, but I don't think they ain't done anything.

They shouldn't have done. He's saying that they want the trade. If they get the trade, it's going to be five games. Josh, the rest of the New York Knicks, good luck. Me and Mace, reserved the right. And Mace, I think I speak on behalf of you as well. Pardon me if I said anything wrong, and you can tell me. don't tell me a Mace

when to come back. We can come back whenever we want. You know if you leave Madison Square Garden you get out on 8th Avenue it's only one turn to get to my block. You go straight up 8th Avenue and when you make a

right turn on 140th, if you're on my block. Same thing with Mace. Don't tell us when to actually come back if we want. And we're not saying we're coming back. But if you don't live in Manhattan, we're from the Triple L,

money-making Manhattan. Josh, you're from Queens, get the money. People are from Brooklyn, Spike Lee, you got the Nets. See, Bradshaw, y'all from the Bronx. Listen, Tracy Morgan, no disrespect. I appreciate y'all being a Knickfield. Don't ever tell me and Mace, well, we could come back,

and we're not coming back just yet because we've seen this movie before. But we are from Harlem, and our team is the globe trottis. We don't lose. Yeah. Astra just yet, though. Why have been, Beth?

I think y'all should go. What you said, Beth? Home all away. Yeah, yeah. Don't lose. Yeah, yeah. Globetrotters don't lose home all away. You got to understand the geography in New York's that.

Yeah, we don't lose. The Knicks will get right there And something will happen It would be sitting there like, bro If this could happen to anybody, it would happen to the Knicks, right? Their uniforms might not show up It's just always something, man You've been hearing this story for 40 years

You just don't believe it now You can't start believing it now Fam, I don't remember what he is. We had a funeral one yet. Statt was dead. He told him that wasn't this excitement. It was even more excitement than this when Stefan Marbury them got to the championship.

I remember Stefan Marbury talking about ain't no way Avery Johnson going to win a championship over me. And I was thinking, yeah, you're right. We were wrong, stat. It could be different. It could be different. That's what they need you to believe. Right.

That's all you need to bring your broom to the party, right? Yeah. We'll see because I was even wearing the Knicks jersey last year and then we saw where that went. But congrats to the Knicks for advancing. And shout out to Landry. It's a new name for y'all every year. Like this year is Landry before it was Wendell.

You were like, I don't like that name either. Like, you guys add to the list of names that y'all do not like. If you ever get a boyfriend named Landry, don't introduce it. Can't do it. He sounds too close to laundry. Yeah, Landry says he's safe, that he's safe. Okay, so on the other end for the Sixers, because, you know, that was just a terrible way to go out. But we got a quote from Joel Embed speaking on his future in Philly, which we've heard this song in

dance in multiple ways, but he said, I don't know he's going to be here. I don't even know if I'm going to be here. Whatever happens happens, but I'm excited about getting back to myself. So, Mace, what do you make of in Bede's comments? Because obviously this was a disappointing sweet for them. He's getting back to himself. What is he talking about? That's what he said. I hate when people lose and get philosophical. But how does it start happening with my highest self and all of that? So this is not the time for that, man. It's too early for that, stat.

You just lost about 40 points. You're not sure who's going to be here. The writing is on the wall. It's official. The process is over. I got to sing Gilly this t-shirt that says the process is over. Whatever process it was supposed to be all these years, are we safe to say that process is totally over? There is no process.

That's what I figured out. There's no process. It's coming on the TV and saying, you know what I just thinking out. I had an aha moment. There was no process. there's no process the process is no process man oh my goodness

joel and b just relax go to cancun enjoy yourself no i like i like that i like that the the jokes on you would never was a process I'm like he's trying

though why can he get philosophical Like he's like a new awakening You know, niggins said It's been a joke the whole time It never was a process Oh shit This is what Ben Simmons is in Australia saying

Y'all finally know It's so crazy There was no process Yeah He's the only one He's the only one not on the joke Damn There was no process.

Oh, shit. Oh, man. Now you know. You know it's no process. Oh, man. Yeah. You know, that might be true all along. Yeah, yo, listen, I remember my son being so disappointed I had to tell him it was no Santa Claus, man.

It's never coming. Tooth Fairy 2. Yeah, yeah. The Two fairy. Santa Claus, they get disappointed around. And the thing about it is you gotta tell them at a certain age, you got nip that shit in the butt like around eight, nine years old

because you don't want them going to school. Talking other kids like, y'all, I know you still don't believe in the Easter bunny. This, this, this, this, this, this makes, you, you might hit the nail on the head, pause with this, Santa Claus, the two furry, the Easter bunny in the process.

It might, it might. You might have got this one right right here. There's no Santa Claus. There's no food very. There's no process, man. It's been a lot of whole time. It's been a lot of the whole time. You may be correct on this, man.

This need to be evaluated. Listen, I didn't think about this, but I think Mason's correct. I don't want to hear fill a, I pronounce it from you, Mason. Philosophical. Philosophical. I don't want to hear it neither. I don't even know how to pronounce it this morning.

Philosopher, I don't want to hear it. Don't get all big wordy on me. Yo, what's the talking about? All this time. Yo, Jo, M.B. has played 91 games in a regular season since winning the league MVP. Talk about jippin' niggas. Yo, my nigger, the majority of the Philadelphia 76's money is going to. Paul George, Joel N.B. and Tyrese Maxie.

I figure Paul George be playing. I was giving a credit before the series started saying, oh, he looked pretty good against the Celtics. He had a couple moves. It might not be podcast P. We might really see playoff P. Well, the nigger was Casper. I didn't see the nigger.

He was a ghost, my nigga. I forgot the nigga was playing at particular times, man. His time may I went as past him, bro. Not even May as Tom has passed, man. And he had a great career, we ought to realize, man, when it comes to Paul George, that pace of Paul George was amazing, man. It's just that he ran into LeBron James

and there was a couple years, he was real close to get into the championship, but probably me beating LeBron James, but he just couldn't get over that hump, cause. But those days are far removed and I still want to give Paul George a lot of credit because a lot of people wouldn't be able to come back from that injury that we see him sustain that year. Man, that was a gruesome injury for him to come back and have a successful career afterwards. I don't, I'm not talking about winning wise or getting to championship wise

when I say successful. Just being coming back to play professional sports is a great career after that injury. Well, we're going to cap it at that. We're going to cap it as a, damn, Mace, what story we could put this with? We can't put it with Reggie Miller. We can't put it with Charles Barkley. You can't put it with Alan Osson.

You can't put it with Carl Malone because all these players that we named that didn't win a championship been to a championship. And Paul George hasn't even been to a championship. Joe L&B, Philly, I don't know who would take him, but y'all should trade him. You're not getting the productivity out of him. He's crossing an arm and a leg, not literally, figuratively. And I don't know exactly.

You would trade him beat? Yeah, he got to go, bro. He's not playing. He won the championship three years ago. He's played a total. Let me see him my notes real quick. How about my notes? So he's won MVP 22, 23, right?

39 games, which is less to half the season, 23, 24. 38 games, 24, 25, 25, 26, 26 games, depending on the exact time. It's a little bit all over the place. More of the story is 91. It's 82 games in the season, so he played 91 games in the last three years. Tell them, take the process somewhere else, maybe that shit might work in Utah, so I don't know what you get

and who wants to pay that much money for somebody who's not available, and I don't think that he's faking. I think that you're correct also, Mace, when you say that big men have a lot of problems. I don't think, I don't think it's a Ben Simmons situation. I don't think that is actually load management. I don't think it's any of that. I think that he's a big fellow with a lot of problems,

with being associated with being a big person, pause. So I don't want to wish him any bad as far as his career is going. I want him to be successful and to win. We've seen spurts of that this year, but I don't know how long it takes him to heal, pause. He sat out for the Olympics last year or whatever year that was a couple years ago.

We seen him try to come back last year. He ended up getting hurt else last year. He didn't play in games this year. Then right before the playoffs, he had a surgery. Listen, man, I don't think he's cheating us on purpose at all. I really believe his injuries. It's people that I'd be like, yeah, right, low management.

You want to take the day off, you're tired, et cetera, your fingernail chip, whatever. I don't think that's the case with Joel Lambie, but I'm not getting the productivity that I'm paying for if I'm the Philadelphia 76's organization. Yeah, great, great, great point. Because it does suck because you can tell that he wants to play, but it just sucks if you keep trying and it's never going to be up to par,

especially with your peers. Because we always say, best ability is availability. He's just never available and it robs us of a lot of good games and honestly his future. So, Mace, I know you had a point before we go to break. Yeah, I don't think you can get anybody to trade for Joelle. I'm thinking about where would he go? like who have the assets and are they willing to give up those assets for joel and b knowing that he's not healthy i think this is something that you got to just not not buy him out i ain't going to play him like that

but you you you need a miracle for this because where where can you see joel mb going on the east coast or the west coast that people would trade all of their assets you need a least two assets back for Joel and B. Who would give up two of their prominent players for this? Well, the thing about it is, Mace, I agree with you prominent, but you might could get a two-for-a-dollar deal at this point. You might give up draft picks and give up eight and two draft picks. Go to go out there and be the new Anthony Davis.

That's not. Hey. It's expensive. You have to restructure your contract. And he would be crazy. I think, I think L.A. will revitalize him. Pause.

When you think about it, L.A. because that's a market that he'll be healthy for. You know what I'm saying? You know, like, is L.A.? You showing up? He got to show up in L.A. Yeah, and that's a great point.

You know, that's why I said that, because as much as we see Anthony Davis hurt, LeBron got the best he could get out of Anthony Davis. You know, I don't know if he followed LeBron's regiment. I don't know if LeBron helped coached him and said, do some of these things, do some of that things, or if it was mental or whatever. But even though he did get hurt a lot in LA,

LeBron still to me got the best out of Anthony Davis pause than anybody else got. And maybe if you give up Aiton, give up Marcus Smart, some drive picks and figure out the money. That's the real problem. the money, because they'll be diving into the luxury tax. But think about this, think about this line up.

I'm not saying they can win the West, but if you got LeBron will come back for a year because he can opt out. Austin Reeves, Luca Donters, and Joelle M.B. It's 65, 70%. That might be all right. Yeah, that may be enough to get it done.

Maybe. Yeah, that would be something to see. Okay, in the comments down below, let us know where you think would be a good landing spot for Embed, hypothetically speaking. But we're going to go to break. When we return, we will get into the Spurs. Don't go anywhere. Welcome back.

So the Timberwolves outlasts to Spurs, even the series 2 to 2 after winning 114 to 109. So we saw a game changing when Biaj, after he elbowed gnaz read mace does this loss actually concern you for the spurs or you not too worried what are your thoughts here i'm actually not concerned actually when when when wendy elbowed them i like the fact that wimby didn't know what they was talking about what i normally do the niggins when they run up so i was just right yo wimby might be one of the one pause. Whimmy was like, what just happened?

He was looking around like, I told him back up. So he got, what he got? No, I'm just playing. But Wimby, I like this attitude when he was leaving the game. He was clapping up, you know, moving around, dapping everybody up, like, let's still win the game. And to think Wembe wasn't there and the game was still that close,

this doesn't concern me at all. This is a foregone conclusion. I'm sticking with San Antonio to beat them. I know this is a team. I also like Anthony Edwards, but this is a foregone conclusion. I'm going with San Antonio. I'm not going to, you know,

start biting my nose until it's San Antonio versus OKC. I think that's the team that everybody wants to see play each other until then this is just the game yeah listen the only reason I am a little bit worried because by rule

Wimby's supposed to miss the next game so now if he misses the next game what happened was Ant Man smelled blood it was a shark and it was somebody who was bleeding in the water and it was a shark in and ant man's not even close to being 100%.

He's seen Wemby go out and his eyes lit up. He had 16 points in the fourth quarter, and as soon as Wimby got out the game, he started attacking the rim. They don't do that when Wimby's down there. People be a little respectful. They don't go down in the deep end pause when Wimby's in the game, but as soon as Wimby got ejected, everybody says free fall, let's start going to the basket.

And now my question is this to the referees, right? You're letting them play a little rough. It's a lot of hand check. I don't mind it. It's a lot of hand checking going on, especially with Julius Rift. and stuff for our castle. I see a lot of hand touching, a lot of pushing, everything else. Just like you said, when Wimby is like, what's going on?

He just got hitting the head previous to that play by McDaniels. So he's like, oh, if this is what we doing, this is what we doing. If you let us play, let us play. Yeah, exactly. If this is what we doing, then did me a tech and don't kick me out the game, but a nigga just clobbing me over the head. I ain't back. You're right.

Yo, this is how he was taught to get rebounds. When you get, when you got a rebound, your elbows were supposed to be like this, off top. And you go like this when you get a rebound. That's how you was taught when we played ball. All this was legal. It looked like, that's why when you said, it looked like Wembe was one of them niggas because that's how I was taught to play basketball. It was just being with one end.

That's what made it look crazy with one end. But if you're like this, it wouldn't matter. Right. I don't even think that's legal no more. Mace, I don't even know. I'm not even sure. Because the elbow nail, now niggas is tremendous. Not saying, nah, he's not really did.

But don't act like a nigger in my DM say, yo, nah, Wimby hit that nigger with the same shit. Ron Artax hit James Hartinwick. Come on, man. Shout to Coach Ron, too, man. You know, he's doing a tremendous job out there coaching as well. Make sure y'all go to this page and check them out, right? Clean it up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ron said he's seen us. He told me to tell you, I'll tell you thanks, man. Appreciate the love, man. Shout out to Coach Ron. Yeah, shout out to Coach Meadow. But on another note, I don't know what they're going to do now. What I was saying is this to Josh, right?

It's looking like the leg is going to get swept. and we see the Knicks sweeps, the sixes. Adam Silver, and I'm like, we ought to slow this thing down. We need these games, we need these teams, a lot of money's being missed by the NBA with these games going so fast, man. I'm telling you that right now, it is millions of dollars that are gonna be missed

when the OCA, Oklahoma City Thunder eventually sweep the Lakers tonight, and the Nix is, well because you're not thinking about sweeps in the second round maybe the first round right the second round niggas is sweeping niggas so it's cost to the league some money this thing going to get slowed down tremendously so we'll see what happens um but you're right mace they look really good without wimby and we see what they'm not calling minnesota portland but we've seen that this team could play without wimby against portland in the playoffs they have a winning record in the regular the season that the games that wouldn't be missed as well.

But who doesn't want the 7-4 defensive player of the year on the court? Let's be serious, man. Even if it's not point production, even though he only left the game with four points to start the second quarter, we've seen the game before this in game three. He had a record breaking game with 35 points,

thinking 15 assists, eight, five blocks, something crazy, but not assists, 15 rebounds, five, it was crazy. Only other people who did that. 39 points, 15 rebounds and five blocks. Something close to that, pardon me, a million of top of my head.

Only other people that did that was Elijah Warren and Karim. Maybe one other person I'm not thinking about. But you know, he's 22 years old and these are the people that you're comparing them to. Now the referees, you gotta let niggas play. If you're gonna let niggas hand check, hit niggins in back, be physical. A little elbow is a little elbow.

That's what we're doing here. And Adam Silver. That might have been Adam Silver's plan. He said, let the niggins play and then throw Wemby out. It's 2-1. They win this game, it's going to be 3-1. We're not losing no more games. Get him out.

It's 2-2 right now. So you're right, he might be Vince McMahon in this shit. We'll see what happens, man. But hopefully he won't be kicked out next game. But if we're going by the rule of the NBA, he's going to be missing the next game. And that's terrible. Yeah, because they would have got up 3-1, he's losing more money.

Right. So he said, you know, let me guys play. Right. And then right around that time, when I hit my watch, kick him out. Yeah. Yeah. And then he is. Two give us at least seven games.

I'm in six games. Minimum. Yeah. So he is projected to play this next game. We're just going to hope the NBA doesn't follow up with an ejection. because this game five is a must one and it's at home for them, so it should be smooth. But also the Timberwolves, like,

even just going back to that first round, even them just beating the nuggets, even in games without Devincenzo and Ant Man, which obviously we know Ant Man will be playing. I don't know, but I'm still not going against the Spurs because they still look really good, like you said, even without Wembe. And even just regarding this whole physicality of the league, right?

This was Wimby's first career ejection. And so now the question kind of here is, like, what is a big man supposed to? really do because you know a lot of people are going to put all this pressure on Wimby and even Mitch Johnson kind of followed up and said he feels the refs should do a better job of actually protecting the big man from physicality that's going to be opposed on him by opponents. So Mace, do you think that the refs could be better at protecting him or you just feel like, you know, let him play. This is part of the rules. Like to me, this was what was supposed to happen. What is

your thought process on that? Just how the refs are handling these things. Oh yeah, I grew up. in the hacker shack. This is what's supposed to happen. They're supposed to smack him, Paul smack his arms, do all that. And he's supposed to eventually get upset and put his elbows out. But not one.

The one was, it looked more intentional. It just looked crazy. He didn't learn that overseas. They got to teach him hold a ball like this. Keep your elbows hot and just move this way. They're going to move. People are going to start moving their head out the way. And that's what you want.

Pause. But I ain't no protecting the big man. If you're protecting the big man, what are you doing? Exposing the little guy, pause. You can't protect the big man. What are you going to do? Make it suitable for him and they'll make it harder for the little guys trying to steal the ball?

Pause, you can't do that. You got to just make the call. But other than that, let them play. And if you let them play, then they get too physical. then that's just the game could you already let it go in that direction? That's the worst kind of refereeing because now the players don't know

are you letting us play or not? If you're calling everything, then we know you're calling everything. Then we know to play light defense. But if you letting us play, then you missed the call down there when he, like Cam said, when he hit him in the head,

now you call it when I want to play physical. Nah, you got to let them. and let the game be one on the court, not by the referees. I love when coaches, I mean, refs say that. He said, we're throwing the ball up and the best team going to win. We're not, I'm not going to save you today. Bet, let's get it. And which is that question?

Yeah, basically, he was, the coach basically saying at some stage, the big man should be protected because if not, he's going to have to protect himself. And unfortunately, stuff like that happens. So you're agreeing with that or not. You ever see, not necessarily Wimby, you ever see the Joker's arms after the game, pause? I don't think people will pay attention how they scarred up, scratches, red,

covering up blade marks. They just beating the Joker up every game and the reason probably shows more because he's white. And I'd be like, God damn they fucking the Joker up and he still gets the triple double. I don't, you know, Big man is not a quarterback. What do you mean protect them?

I don't get it. You know, I don't even know what that really means. It was what the coach said. I'm trying to make sense of it and process it right now. You know, I don't know what that means. I would just have to say no, because I don't know what protect the big man means. Protect them how, the niggins it.

Protect them. Protect them mean. Keep them out of that position. of making that move on them. Basically, yeah. Making a move. Make it where he doesn't have to do that, protect himself. You're basically saying that the Spurs coaches said this about for Wembe.

Yes. Okay, because I didn't know such a... Nah. Like, come get your man before I heard him. Yeah, okay, I totally understand that. Even though Mitch is my man and all that, I don't think it was a Wimby protect thing. I think that it's a referee,

Latin niggas play physical, and Wimby was like, get off me. He didn't mean to really, I wouldn't think he purposely elbowed a nigger in the neck, but to Mesa's point, which he made an excellent point in his first state, Wimby body language was like whatever, even on the way out, he was smiling. Take it how you wanna take it, pause.

That was Wimby attitude. I was looking, I was rather shut. He was clapping like Mace said, smiling, and Mesa hit the nail on the head again. No, cause he's confused, like, I thought that's what we're doing tonight. Nigger, so you ain't seen a nigga that hit me in the head.

All right, bad, get off me. You know. I don't think it's- I said they throwing you out. Yeah, listen, I think it's a way to play physical without doing with what Wimby did, even though I get with,

wouldn't be dead, but let her, go break your nigger fingers when they jump. Your hand's part of the ball. Get, getting let the nigger jump and all that, forearms, you know, when you come, and so it's ways to be physical because you see Julius Randall being very, very physical this series.

You know, I don't know what him and Stefan Castle got going on with each other, but those two will be a really, really physical, with each other. And Joyce Randall's is a little bigger than Stefan Castle so it's looking like

he's bullying them on purpose. Not just that. Even when Wimby's down there, they're trying to throw the body on Wemby. McDaniels, Nas Reed,

they're being really, really physical. And I think that the Spurs are so good. Listen, man, to be such a young team, I got to give them a lot of credit. Even though they didn't win last night,

you're thinking about this. We're thinking about a rookie year last year when we're talking about. Stephon Castle, 21 years old, Wembe, 22 years old, another rookie this year, Ron Harper's son, he's out here at 27 points last night, looking really good, the sixth man of the year,

Johnson off the bench, Sherpenny, he's like, listen man, Deerrin Fox is like the OG and he's not even 30 on the team. So listen, the Spurs look really, really good considering the situation that they're in right now. You have to think about this. They have zero playoff experience. The only one who had playoff experience coming into this playoffs this year was De Aaron Foxwood's been in one playoff series, which they lost to the Golden State Warriors.

So I think they're handling this situation with a lot of poise, and they got a lot of people that's hanging around. I mentioned this last week around an organization, whether we're talking about Greg Popovich. We're talking about David Robertson. We're talking about the Tim Duncan. even Wemby last game and I didn't know this until Wemby said at his post game interview last game they said how'd you do it

39 points 15 rebounds you're up there with Kareem and El Jawan and Wembe said you know Mesa I didn't notice he said well I pulled out a couple of things that Al Jua had taught me over to someone I'm like oh he fucking what a Lajuan in his off time that matters

when niggas go see a Lajuan that means that you're ready to take your game to the next level And then they showed the move back to back on the screen that Wimbi did that Elijah Juan was doing. So I think that for them to be in this situation right now, we're just looking at the spurs like, yeah, they post a win. But we're talking about a Minnesota team that's been to the conference finals back

to back and have a little more experience to them. You've got to realize Mike Connolly's 2,000 years old. He's been playing since forever. We're realizing that Nas Reid is a former six man of the year. Anthony Edwards, we already know what he brings to the table. So they have a lot of experience, but what the Spurs are doing

should not be ignored to be such a young team, but you're here now. We don't want to hear that. We want to hear wins. And because you have been winning, that's what they expect you to do. Yep. A lot of upside for the Spurs.

Okay, so last thing, before we wrap, the Wizards won the draft. Then it will be followed by the Jazz, Grizzlies, then the Bulls. So this will actually be the wizard's first overall pick for the first time since choosing John Wall in 2010. Mace, how do you feel about the Wizards getting the number one pick? This could be crazy. I'm thinking, I'm really excited for Washington, D.C., especially if they get who I think they're going to get. I hope they go for booza

so the young kid don't go back to college Don't pick AJ Please don't pick AJ We all know AJ We'll go to Utah, man That's the fact I do Yeah

Like AJ might need Rich Paul, man AJ may need Rich Paul like they did with Brony Don't pick Brony Don't pick them The same way they got to do with AJ

AJ, this time you're not going to be the first pick. Let Boozer go first. Let Boozer go to the Wizards. And they'll start from there. I hope Boozer turn out and pan out to be a great pro. And hopefully it'll be worth it. That's all I can say about the Wizard. I don't know where they're trying to really go,

but they definitely need to fill that slot. Now they will have a really good, front court. So this will be a great move for them. I couldn't agree with you more. That kid wants to stay in Utah. He do not want to go. Do not, Wizards do not pick that kid, man.

They already got their life set up in Utah. And that's not a bad suggestion either, Mace. You've been on point today, man. I'm really proud of you, man. You did your thing today, man. You watched the games, everything, man. Man. You've been on point today, man.

You know, your college prospects and everything, man. Like you told me a few years ago, you don't watch losers, man. I don't watch that. But listen, man, it's a lot of great prospects outside of just boozer. You got, you got Caleb that just bust ass. We didn't get to see the kid. I think it's Caleb Wilson. Check for me, Statt. Yeah.

In North Carolina because he was hurt during the playoffs. This kid is amazing. The kid in North Carolina, if you didn't get to see him in the MCAA because he was hurt. You got this kid in Michigan. And this isn't just Boozer and AJ. It's a lot of niggas in this draft. But I agree.

Washington Wizards do not pick AJ, bro. I don't know what type of move they will pull to not come to camp, did not show up, but his family is situated in Utah, and I think he, I don't know if once you get picked, if you could go back to college, I'm not sure,

but, um, yeah, you can't, you don't put yourself in the drive, or I mean, or if you don't get an agent, if you don't get an agent, because he don't need,

I mean, he really don't need an agent. He knows where he's going. He just can't go to no trial. His father is his agent, but that's his father. Yeah. I ain't going to know

workouts. Yeah, so. All of that, put it on the post. I don't like, I don't like D.C., all that. Is it Caleb Wilson? Yeah. Yeah, Caleb Wilson. I like the kid from Arkansas, though. The kid from Arkansas is... Yeah, A-Cuff is tough, too. It's a, yo, this draft is good. You got a good. One through nine should be actually really, really good, man. But the Wizards, look, I don't know if it's booze or a cuff, you may want them getting in the back court with my niggins

or if you want to pit a forward to get in the front court with Anthony Davis. This could be a really good year for the Wizards if they make the right choice and then you get a lot of, get some decent production from a rookie. But at least they got the number one pick. All I was saying to myself was if OKC get the number one pick.

This shit is crazy because, Sam Presti's a motherfucker. For him to even be in the fucking lottery is crazy for O KC to be in the lottery as well. Which pick they got in the lottery, stat? 12. Yeah. Oh, I was about to say, if they get A cup, it'll be rigged. It'll be rigged.

Yes. It'll be rigged. Yes. It wouldn't be fun because the West is already super stacked. So it's, this is good to me. when this happens. We need to spread it out because we keep seeing the same trades, players, go to the same type of team. Like, I like, I like it to be evenly spaced out. It makes basketball, watching basketball more fun. So that would be my two cents there. But yeah, like you said,

this class in general, like there's a lot of really good picks. Like if you've been watching, like, even just the college games, I just feel like they need to push these younger players to have a better presence just as far as, like, relating to fans and having a better social media presence because I feel like in recent years it hasn't been where it needs to be. Besides AJ, I feel like he has the best overall presence because I feel like he's been pushed a lot, but they need to do better at least allowing them to have more of a presence so they can get more fans before they even get to the team. It makes it better. Okay. Y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. Thank you all for watching. And as always, it is what it is.