IT IS WHAT IT IS - LEBRON JAMES IS GOING TO PLAY BASKETBALL WITH HIS SON BRONNY & DEVIN HANEY WANTS THE SMOKE | S4 EP50
Episode Date: September 14, 2024...
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                                         It's a reunion, hello y'all
                                         
                                         Uh
                                         
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                                         Get murdered here, he counting money
                                         
                                         He said, can't man, the hell we're at
                                         
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                                         Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga
                                         
                                         Black Benz's and white Vigas
                                         
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                                         MACE and CAM, and we Baby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam.
                                         
                                         And we are joined today
                                         
                                         with our analyst,
                                         
                                         Maurice Claret.
                                         
                                         Mo, what's good?
                                         
                                         What's going on?
                                         
    
                                         Mo, what up, man?
                                         
                                         How you?
                                         
                                         Oh, my mic ain't,
                                         
                                         my bad.
                                         
                                         Mo, what's good?
                                         
                                         How you doing, man?
                                         
                                         All is well, man.
                                         
                                         Good.
                                         
    
                                         Took my daughter
                                         
                                         to orientation yesterday.
                                         
                                         It's a great day.
                                         
                                         What's up, man?
                                         
                                         Congrats.
                                         
                                         What school?
                                         
                                         What school?
                                         
                                         Shout out the school.
                                         
    
                                         Come on, man.
                                         
                                         Come on, man.
                                         
                                         Ohio State, baby.
                                         
                                         Why they put Larry on the screen?
                                         
                                         She's not going to Larry's school.
                                         
                                         No, we went to orientation at Ohio State yesterday.
                                         
                                         So all is well.
                                         
                                         It's been a good week.
                                         
    
                                         That's good, man.
                                         
                                         Congrats to her.
                                         
                                         That's fire.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         So let's get started, y'all.
                                         
                                         Ronnie James is officially a Los Angeles Laker.
                                         
                                         Yo, you still a vegan?
                                         
                                         Yeah, this is cute. Yo, you still a vegan? Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         What, my skin is glowing?
                                         
                                         Yo, Paul.
                                         
                                         I'm not saying you're still a vegan.
                                         
                                         That's all.
                                         
                                         I'm pescatarian.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         Now, I was in Lolo's Chicken and Waffles
                                         
                                         and seen your picture up recently.
                                         
    
                                         What?
                                         
                                         I was in Lolo's Chicken and Waffles
                                         
                                         and I seen your picture up in there. Oh, that was way backolo's Chicken and Waffles and I seen your
                                         
                                         picture up in there
                                         
                                         and they said.
                                         
                                         Oh, that was way back.
                                         
                                         That was when I first
                                         
                                         came on here.
                                         
    
                                         They said it was
                                         
                                         last week.
                                         
                                         Lolo,
                                         
                                         Lolo,
                                         
                                         see what you did,
                                         
                                         Lolo?
                                         
                                         I'm just checking.
                                         
                                         I forgot to mention that.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, that was like,
                                         
                                         that was like in
                                         
                                         last year.
                                         
                                         Are you a vegetarian
                                         
                                         or not, bro? I said pescatarian. I don that was like, and that shit all got... Are you a vegetarian or not, bro?
                                         
                                         I said pescatarian.
                                         
                                         What does that mean exactly?
                                         
                                         What does it mean?
                                         
    
                                         Like seafood, fish.
                                         
                                         Yeah, like...
                                         
                                         So the answer is no.
                                         
                                         Ask me what it means.
                                         
                                         The answer is no.
                                         
                                         This is not still a good...
                                         
                                         80% vegetarian,
                                         
                                         20% pescatarian, you know.
                                         
    
                                         I wasn't a bet.
                                         
                                         We didn't have a loud bet.
                                         
                                         It was a matching bet.
                                         
                                         My bad.
                                         
                                         I didn't even mean to interrupt.
                                         
                                         I just remember yesterday I seen this nigga pitch up in Lolo's.
                                         
                                         Oh, no.
                                         
                                         But I didn't do that.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I was going to eat this weekend, though.
                                         
                                         Of course.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         This was ass.
                                         
                                         I didn't know. Yeah. You I was going to eat this weekend, though. Pause. Okay. This was asked. I didn't know.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You know what I noticed about vegetarians?
                                         
                                         You can get fatter being a vegetarian.
                                         
    
                                         This is true.
                                         
                                         They want you to eat bread and all that, pause, all day.
                                         
                                         This is true.
                                         
                                         And pasta and all that.
                                         
                                         I was like, man, this is worse than just eating clean.
                                         
                                         This is true.
                                         
                                         I know a few chubby paws vegetarians, man.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         They tried to introduce me
                                         
                                         to, um,
                                         
                                         what was it called, paws?
                                         
                                         Slutty vegan.
                                         
                                         Oh, that's good.
                                         
                                         You ate it before?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         It's not my favorite,
                                         
    
                                         but it's good.
                                         
                                         Oh, I wouldn't eat it
                                         
                                         because of the name.
                                         
                                         It just sounded...
                                         
                                         She from Harlem.
                                         
                                         Shout out to Pinky, man.
                                         
                                         Yeah, shout out to Pinky.
                                         
                                         Shout out to Pinky, man.
                                         
    
                                         I would eat it.
                                         
                                         I'm not a vegetarian.
                                         
                                         I, you know, I support Harlem,
                                         
                                         baby. You know what I'm saying? That's crazy, though, but
                                         
                                         yeah, shout out to Pinky. You're not
                                         
                                         supporting Harlem. You said you would eat it.
                                         
                                         I would. That's a pause,
                                         
                                         but if you don't want to support somebody
                                         
    
                                         from Harlem, that's on you. No, I'm
                                         
                                         supportive.
                                         
                                         Shout out. Shout out. Shout out to Pinky. shout out
                                         
                                         shout out
                                         
                                         shout out to Pinky
                                         
                                         they opened a Harlem location
                                         
                                         I did the commercial for them
                                         
                                         so congrats to her
                                         
    
                                         okay also
                                         
                                         Bronny James
                                         
                                         is officially a Los Angeles Laker
                                         
                                         after being selected 55th overall
                                         
                                         do you guys think that the Lakers
                                         
                                         made the right choice
                                         
                                         Maurice first
                                         
                                         I think they
                                         
    
                                         I think they made the right choice
                                         
                                         an obvious choice.
                                         
                                         I was happy to see it.
                                         
                                         I think we've kind of heard about it all day
                                         
                                         and heard about it all week, and everybody
                                         
                                         expected it, but the clip
                                         
                                         that I seen on SportsCenter
                                         
                                         when I seen Savannah
                                         
    
                                         and Bronny, when they
                                         
                                         was crying, that really did it for me.
                                         
                                         It was special to me. One, I think the Lakers made did it for me. And it was special to me.
                                         
                                         One, I think the Lakers made the right decision.
                                         
                                         But then it was special to me to see young Bronny have his moment.
                                         
                                         And then we get so used to seeing Savannah always being supportive of LeBron.
                                         
                                         And we've always seen her in that light.
                                         
                                         But it was different to see her in a motherly role and happy for a kid.
                                         
    
                                         And I probably was in that same frame of thinking,
                                         
                                         just seeing my kid going to college.
                                         
                                         But seeing her happy for him and then seeing the little brother,
                                         
                                         he was behind recording a video of it all.
                                         
                                         So it was like a special moment.
                                         
                                         So I think the Lakers made the right decision.
                                         
                                         I think it was the obvious decision that everybody
                                         
                                         pretty much knew was going to happen.
                                         
    
                                         So I was happy to see him get drafted.
                                         
                                         I'm going to let Cam go.
                                         
                                         Y'all going to need me to go last on this one.
                                         
                                         Pause.
                                         
                                         I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         I think it's dope.
                                         
                                         Listen, man. Like I said I said before the Greek Freak Brothers
                                         
                                         is playing
                                         
    
                                         there's no reason
                                         
                                         that Ronnie shouldn't
                                         
                                         be playing
                                         
                                         and I'm not
                                         
                                         what I'm about to say
                                         
                                         I have no
                                         
                                         actual knowledge on
                                         
                                         I haven't talked
                                         
    
                                         to anybody
                                         
                                         this is not
                                         
                                         any
                                         
                                         like text messages
                                         
                                         between me
                                         
                                         and the people
                                         
                                         that I'm talking about
                                         
                                         or nothing like that or calls or nothing.
                                         
    
                                         This is just purely speculation from what I was hearing.
                                         
                                         And I didn't do any homework on it.
                                         
                                         I want to give Rich Paul a lot of credit, man.
                                         
                                         Rich Paul basically threatened the NBA and told niggas,
                                         
                                         if you draft Bronny, he's going to Australia.
                                         
                                         he's gone he's going to Australia
                                         
                                         so
                                         
                                         basically
                                         
    
                                         if
                                         
                                         and
                                         
                                         he gave Phoenix Suns
                                         
                                         the green light
                                         
                                         and the Lakers
                                         
                                         the green light
                                         
                                         we got a nigga
                                         
                                         out here
                                         
    
                                         calling shots man
                                         
                                         not a black man
                                         
                                         a nigga
                                         
                                         that nigga's a nigga
                                         
                                         out here telling niggas
                                         
                                         don't touch niggas
                                         
                                         I'm telling you that
                                         
                                         right now
                                         
    
                                         you better not
                                         
                                         touch niggas
                                         
                                         cause if not
                                         
                                         we'll send them overseas
                                         
                                         and we'll make the same
                                         
                                         amount of money that they'll probably make in his rookie contract anyway better not touch niggas. Because if not, we'll send them overseas and we'll make the same amount of money
                                         
                                         that they'll probably make
                                         
                                         in his rookie contract anyway.
                                         
    
                                         Don't touch niggas.
                                         
                                         That's first and foremost.
                                         
                                         Secondly,
                                         
                                         I've seen some players
                                         
                                         complaining,
                                         
                                         saying that they earned
                                         
                                         their spot,
                                         
                                         Bronny didn't earn his spot.
                                         
    
                                         This down to third.
                                         
                                         I'm officially changing
                                         
                                         the narrative.
                                         
                                         Fuck that.
                                         
                                         What your father did.
                                         
                                         We got to start giving the fathers credit. I'm mad at my father did. We got to start, we got to start
                                         
                                         giving the fathers credit.
                                         
                                         I'm mad at my pops now.
                                         
    
                                         I had to figure shit out
                                         
                                         for my own mom.
                                         
                                         I ain't have nobody
                                         
                                         helping me out.
                                         
                                         My father wasn't there
                                         
                                         for me.
                                         
                                         Getting me where
                                         
                                         I had to go.
                                         
    
                                         Doing it for my son now.
                                         
                                         You know,
                                         
                                         I'm setting it off.
                                         
                                         Look,
                                         
                                         GM's sons,
                                         
                                         GM's be hiring
                                         
                                         they sons.
                                         
                                         Owners hire
                                         
    
                                         they kids.
                                         
                                         Who running the Dallas Cowboys?
                                         
                                         Who's the president of the Dallas Cowboys, Mo?
                                         
                                         The Maxi.
                                         
                                         Jerry Johnson.
                                         
                                         There you go.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         I'm changing the narrative.
                                         
    
                                         Fuck that.
                                         
                                         Fuck that.
                                         
                                         What your pops did for you, nigga?
                                         
                                         What he did?
                                         
                                         So, niggas is mad because that nigga father is LeBron James.
                                         
                                         So, what?
                                         
                                         The Walmart kids is getting the Walmart money.
                                         
                                         The McDonald kids is not the McDonald's.
                                         
    
                                         The nigga who took it from McDonald's.
                                         
                                         His kids is getting their money.
                                         
                                         Ray Crockett.
                                         
                                         The Crocs is getting the money.
                                         
                                         Listen, fuck that.
                                         
                                         Fuck that.
                                         
                                         And Paris Hilton is getting what she getting.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         And the Hilton's is getting what they getting.
                                         
                                         Fuck that. Trump is getting what they getting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the Hilton's is getting what they getting.
                                         
                                         Fuck that.
                                         
                                         Trump is getting what they getting.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Fuck that.
                                         
                                         I'm tired of this.
                                         
                                         Braun is this.
                                         
    
                                         Fuck that.
                                         
                                         What your pops did for you?
                                         
                                         I was looking at me and my nigga like we driving over here.
                                         
                                         I'm looking at this nigga.
                                         
                                         One of my comedians named me.
                                         
                                         And he made a great point.
                                         
                                         That was my point.
                                         
                                         But he was like, he But he said, Magic Johnson,
                                         
    
                                         you think he ain't want to play with his son?
                                         
                                         You think Magic ain't want to play with him?
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         You think he ain't want to play with his son?
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         I'm just saying, nigga.
                                         
                                         Michael Jordan ain't want to play with his son?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, that's better. You're turning it into something. I'm just saying, nigga, Michael Jordan ain't want to play with his son? Yeah, that's better.
                                         
                                         You're turning it into something.
                                         
                                         I'm not talking about the greats.
                                         
                                         You're turning it into something. I don't know what you're talking about.
                                         
                                         I'm talking about niggas who got sons who wish they could have played with their sons.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I'm just talking about the great players. You don't think these niggas wish their sons could have?
                                         
                                         D-Wade would have wanted to play with his son.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I was with him.
                                         
                                         Exactly.
                                         
                                         That's, you know, exactly.
                                         
                                         That's the point I'm trying to make.
                                         
                                         Niggas would have loved to play with their sons.
                                         
                                         And not saying they don't love their kids,
                                         
                                         but you know how proud of a moment it's like,
                                         
                                         yo, nah, my nigga in the league.
                                         
    
                                         Whether it's manipulated, not manipulated, whatever.
                                         
                                         Whatever.
                                         
                                         People do it all the time.
                                         
                                         I mean, in youth sports, there's a bunch of people playing that shouldn't be playing.
                                         
                                         And not putting this on them, but, you know, growing up watching people play and coaching different teams,
                                         
                                         there's a lot of people that be on a court or on a football field that actually are there because their dad bought
                                         
                                         the gym, their dad paid for the uniforms. There's all kinds of things. And I'm not upset with that.
                                         
                                         I think that's a beautiful moment for basketball. But when it comes to how,
                                         
    
                                         I didn't think they needed to lie to us about it.
                                         
                                         You know how sometime I think I heard one of the guys say, you know what?
                                         
                                         They're not trying to play together.
                                         
                                         He's just trying to make it in the league.
                                         
                                         I wish they would have just stood on it from the jump and just say, you know what?
                                         
                                         We're going to play together and we're going to do everything in our power to make it happen.
                                         
                                         I think that would have even been a greater moment. But
                                         
                                         this moment is good. This moment is definitely good. I think it adds a lot of pressure to the
                                         
    
                                         Lakers organization because people are going to be watching this. But the fight is fixed. I mean,
                                         
                                         from LeBron's side, the fight is fixed. But there's some real iffy things that comes with this.
                                         
                                         Just watching them playing summer league and things like that,
                                         
                                         there's going to be a lot of pressure on them.
                                         
                                         But not that much pressure because no matter what,
                                         
                                         they can't afford to send them to the G League.
                                         
                                         So I don't know how much pressure that'll even really be.
                                         
                                         It should be pressure, but it won't because the fight is fixed.
                                         
    
                                         I wasn't even finished.
                                         
                                         Fuck that.
                                         
                                         Like I was saying, niggas got to keep on.
                                         
                                         Turn that down.
                                         
                                         Niggas got to motherfucking start respecting the father.
                                         
                                         Shout out to my nigga Sham God.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         His son just became the play coach for player development for the Celtics.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So that's what I was in the middle of saying before that.
                                         
                                         I'm changing the whole narrative of,
                                         
                                         oh, niggas got in because they pops.
                                         
                                         And so fucking what?
                                         
                                         End of the day, it isn't like Bronny got to go play tennis.
                                         
                                         It ain't like he got to go ice skate.
                                         
                                         It ain't like he got to go rock climbing.
                                         
    
                                         He's been around basketball since he was born.
                                         
                                         So at the end of the day,
                                         
                                         it is going to be a lot
                                         
                                         of pressure like may said but niggas knew that this ain't nothing new you think his father isn't
                                         
                                         telling him that you know being my son it ain't gonna be no easy thing he gotta be probably dealing
                                         
                                         with that since he was 11 to 12 the pressure of coming with being lebron james's son and now it's
                                         
                                         just going to be to the next level and the highest level congratulations to the james family
                                         
                                         congratulations to clutch sports i think this was a super dope moment and we'll see what happens next And now it's just going to be to the next level and the highest level. Congratulations to the James family.
                                         
    
                                         Congratulations to Clutch Sports.
                                         
                                         I think this was a super dope moment and we'll see what happens next.
                                         
                                         And definitely.
                                         
                                         Go ahead, Maurice.
                                         
                                         No, I'll add on to this.
                                         
                                         Like, you know, before you came on, I was talking about Mesa has many different layers.
                                         
                                         I think the resentment with LeBron and people throwing shots at him is like, you know, you got in or Bronny got in because of his father.
                                         
                                         It comes from, you know, at the end of the day, when you play a sport for a team, you're an employee, right?
                                         
    
                                         And there's a bunch of former players who know that their power only went to a certain level.
                                         
                                         And when you're watching LeBron, you're watching somebody who acts like a boss and an owner in probably 90% of his life.
                                         
                                         And then the only area that he's viewed as a peer, he's viewed as like the guy who can do more than what the other guys do.
                                         
                                         And so to me, that's what I was saying.
                                         
                                         Like you watch something special.
                                         
                                         You just never seen nobody come under all this pressure to perform, perform and win all these championships and then just be having their way. And so like, I know you was, you were serious and you was joking,
                                         
                                         but it do, it do, it do need to become narrative because now somebody can look at LeBron and say,
                                         
                                         man, if I perform very well, you know, be it whatever it is, like I can just wield my power
                                         
    
                                         over, or I can leverage my power towards the NBA organization
                                         
                                         to get things done for me that I probably didn't think well before and
                                         
                                         Just like you seeing people break through industries and do all type of stuff for the first time
                                         
                                         I just think you're watching him do this stuff for the first time and I think it's special
                                         
                                         I think it's cool, you know not to mention he's from Ohio, you know, you know
                                         
                                         And I've known Savannah and rich and all those guys for years
                                         
                                         I just never thought I'll see nothing like this
                                         
                                         But I just think that a lot of it comes from that right there where they look at him as an employee or a peer
                                         
    
                                         Playing basketball for a professional team, but he functions like he basically runs the organization and he's pulled off moves now
                                         
                                         That you know that nobody's ever seen before. Hey listen real quick i know we're moving on it's lebron james so they blowing it out of proportion
                                         
                                         the greek freak has been doing this for a few years now it's not and it's new because it's his
                                         
                                         son the greek freak is strong arming his brother on the team like we know this we don't see where's
                                         
                                         his colin bar colin nba tapes? Where's his scout report?
                                         
                                         Where's the video of the Greek Freaks brother saying, nah, we need to get that nigga in the NBA.
                                         
                                         It's been going on.
                                         
                                         It's LeBron James and his son.
                                         
    
                                         So it's escalated because it's him.
                                         
                                         But the Greek Freak got two brothers in the league.
                                         
                                         Then they shit.
                                         
                                         Trash.
                                         
                                         I take Barney over to Greek Freak brother.
                                         
                                         I tell you that.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Like, I think the situation that,
                                         
    
                                         now I'm going to give you the voice of the people on the opposite side.
                                         
                                         They're probably thinking, and not that I feel this way,
                                         
                                         but there's people that feel like, but this is the Lakers organization. This is not any organization.
                                         
                                         This is the Lakers that's This is not any organization. This is the Lakers that's
                                         
                                         competing with the Celtics. Now, the Celtics have won a championship and they're saying,
                                         
                                         this is what they're saying. I'm not saying this. This is what they're saying,
                                         
                                         that the Lakers is looking like a reality show almost. But to me, I think this is going to compel LeBron to want to win.
                                         
                                         I think the story gets even better if he wins a championship or go further with his son.
                                         
    
                                         Then it becomes a crazy story.
                                         
                                         You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         Like, I don't think LeBron would even, not that he would try to lose, but I know he's definitely not going to lose with his son playing with him.
                                         
                                         I think he's going to try to put his best foot forward to try to get a trophy with his son.
                                         
                                         That's just what I believe. When I saw him up there and I saw all the emotions,
                                         
                                         I was like, yo, you know what would be crazy? If the Lakers win with LeBron and his son, then I think he would truly retire that this
                                         
                                         year if he win the championship.
                                         
                                         So I just wanted to put that out there.
                                         
    
                                         I think, and to add on what you're saying,
                                         
                                         look, I would agree with
                                         
                                         that statement as far as niggas saying that
                                         
                                         Lakers has turned into a circus. Who was available
                                         
                                         at 55? It isn't like they
                                         
                                         used a, not you Mace, I'm just saying,
                                         
                                         it isn't like they used a 17th
                                         
                                         pick on him he's 55 this
                                         
    
                                         draft was super duper weak other niggas was going to get him so they say and rich paul said don't
                                         
                                         even try it who was what what niggas that you could have been like at 55 i'm talking about the
                                         
                                         55th pick niggas passed on so-and-so from Boise State.
                                         
                                         Like, yo, my nigga, they could have grabbed so-and-so.
                                         
                                         It's the 55th pick in a week-ass draft.
                                         
                                         Who else are you getting?
                                         
                                         So when niggas say that, it'd be like,
                                         
                                         I could see if they picked him in 17,
                                         
    
                                         I would have been like, oh, nah, niggas is reaching.
                                         
                                         It was trash.
                                         
                                         Secondly, to me, I don't think he retired.
                                         
                                         Secondly, I don't think he retired if he went
                                         
                                         because you got about three years,
                                         
                                         maybe two now if I'm thinking correctly,
                                         
                                         his other son could come.
                                         
                                         He got a three-year deal with the Lakers.
                                         
    
                                         He got a three-year deal with the Lakers.
                                         
                                         Bryce has been eligible in about three now Bryce
                                         
                                         Bronny and LeBron
                                         
                                         yo my nigga
                                         
                                         y'all pulling off some Walt Disney
                                         
                                         shit my nigga this is shit
                                         
                                         that's made of dreams
                                         
                                         this is shit that will tear trickle down your eye
                                         
    
                                         Bryce make it cause to me
                                         
                                         I like Bryce
                                         
                                         I like Bryce a lot
                                         
                                         I like Bryce a lot man I like Bryce better than Bronny. I like Bryce
                                         
                                         a lot, man. And Bryce is taller
                                         
                                         than Bronny. Bryce got one of them
                                         
                                         smooth-ass games. I like Bryce
                                         
                                         a lot. And this is not
                                         
    
                                         further than reality. You know,
                                         
                                         today when we talk about something like
                                         
                                         that would be crazy. This
                                         
                                         isn't a two, three-year thing. I think Bryce
                                         
                                         is about to be a junior. So we
                                         
                                         got one, a junior. 2026.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's 2024.
                                         
                                         So then we got one more, 2027
                                         
    
                                         and LeBron James contract is for three more years.
                                         
                                         Man, listen, even if he don't play
                                         
                                         with his brother and his father,
                                         
                                         even him just getting to the NBA would be crazy
                                         
                                         with all of them in the NBA at once.
                                         
                                         I mean, I definitely agree with all you guys.
                                         
                                         I think it's definitely a dope opportunity
                                         
                                         because if anybody was in LeBron's
                                         
    
                                         position, they would do the same thing.
                                         
                                         But I do want to kind of further discuss
                                         
                                         a point that Cam did bring up. So, obviously,
                                         
                                         we do know that, basically,
                                         
                                         Rich Paul was telling other teams not
                                         
                                         to take Bronny. If so, he was going to
                                         
                                         Australia. That was also confirmed by Bob
                                         
                                         Myers. But I'm just curious on
                                         
    
                                         you guys' opinion. Do you
                                         
                                         guys feel like that is a bad look or do you feel like it's not a big deal because they got what
                                         
                                         they wanted? What do we think about that? And I'll let Maurice go first. I don't think it's a bad
                                         
                                         look. I think it's a total what Cam was talking about. Somebody finally, it's a nigga who
                                         
                                         exercising their power. You know, there's a bunch of people who exercise their power over athletes and players and black people every day.
                                         
                                         And Rich is just doing it now.
                                         
                                         And I'm pretty sure, like, not just the basketball thing.
                                         
                                         I can't imagine the amount of money and marketing dollars that he's going to be able to facilitate for his son.
                                         
    
                                         And when I look at it like that, like, and so Rich is like, man, you're not about to fuck this up.
                                         
                                         You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         No other team is about to pick him and shelf him.
                                         
                                         And so I'm going to just go ahead and strong arm you all the way that you strong arm players.
                                         
                                         So I'm happy he did it if he did.
                                         
                                         Like I said, I can't confirm that he did do it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he did.
                                         
                                         You know.
                                         
    
                                         He did.
                                         
                                         And one thing I want to say that that will be an interesting question because I hear what killer say and I I kind of
                                         
                                         agree with him because I had a different point before he shared that and I agree with what you're
                                         
                                         saying and this will be my question to that so then every time that this was done to a black
                                         
                                         person was it okay because now you seem to feel like it's okay if somebody else does it so that's
                                         
                                         just the question I want to put out there.
                                         
                                         What do you think about that?
                                         
                                         Just to be clear on a question, can you say it again?
                                         
    
                                         You know, like like you said, he's strong on his way, got what he wanted.
                                         
                                         The deal was done based upon just the bloodline of this person, not just their credentials, but the bloodline. So now when it happens with
                                         
                                         pause with another nationality or group of people, is it now okay since both sides can do it now?
                                         
                                         I don't know if it's right or wrong. That's all left up to each individual, but it's exercise
                                         
                                         and leverage in business, right? When know, when you start off negotiations,
                                         
                                         you're trying to put your client
                                         
                                         or whoever you represent in the best situation.
                                         
                                         And like, what are you trying to do when you do any deal?
                                         
    
                                         You're trying to get to your desire space
                                         
                                         that you want to do.
                                         
                                         And if you know what you want,
                                         
                                         then you understand what leverage you have.
                                         
                                         I think the point that I was making
                                         
                                         is that you've never seen a black person
                                         
                                         have leverage in a professional space ever. Like, I just don't remember too many,
                                         
                                         like, you know, and I know this is going into a different direction. The reason that you've
                                         
    
                                         killed off the running back is because running backs would hold football teams hostage and hold
                                         
                                         out during camp and they'll just fuck everything up. That's why you have this emergence of
                                         
                                         quarterbacks because it's like, okay, we could have more influence over quarterbacks
                                         
                                         and these are white guys who will have influence over
                                         
                                         and not these who are running the ball.
                                         
                                         That's just a blunt way of saying it,
                                         
                                         but I'm saying watching Rich Paul do this
                                         
                                         and basically function in a space where,
                                         
    
                                         when he was on the show, they probably resent him.
                                         
                                         People think that he's only in his position
                                         
                                         for the same reason that Bronny's in his position because somebody made a way for him.
                                         
                                         But we we as black people always talk about we want to see black people make it and black excellence and black people come together.
                                         
                                         I guess I'm just seeing it with them in real time.
                                         
                                         And I'm like happy that he's using his leverage for it.
                                         
                                         I think that's a cleaner way of saying it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'm basically saying so based upon what you're saying, then it's not wrong.
                                         
    
                                         Moving forward, it shouldn't be seen as wrong.
                                         
                                         It's just who you prefer to elevate.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I just think in business, yes.
                                         
                                         The answer is yes.
                                         
                                         I don't think so.
                                         
                                         Yeah, because when it's on the, you know how people say when the shoe is on the other foot, you don't see nothing wrong with it.
                                         
                                         So when the shoe is on the opposite foot, then we should just let it go because that's just who they desire to do business with and be okay with it.
                                         
                                         You get what I'm saying, Scott?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I know.
                                         
                                         Kind of.
                                         
                                         Like, so, like, so let's say you're saying when a non-black person exercise, this power is,
                                         
                                         is not cool.
                                         
                                         And this is the first time you saw a black person do it.
                                         
                                         So when a black person does it,
                                         
                                         you,
                                         
    
                                         you felt like it was,
                                         
                                         it was good.
                                         
                                         It's,
                                         
                                         it's,
                                         
                                         it's what should happen.
                                         
                                         And it was great to see.
                                         
                                         So I'm saying moving forward,
                                         
                                         we should just understand we got to work to be in a better situation because
                                         
    
                                         anybody that's in that position
                                         
                                         should do what they could do is that what you're saying yeah yes but i just think it's just so new
                                         
                                         to to watch a black person have power at such a level like this you know i said i think that's
                                         
                                         like probably like my the biggest points i'm trying to make like we've never seen it and
                                         
                                         you know um i don't know.
                                         
                                         We've just never seen.
                                         
                                         I think that's the point that I'm making.
                                         
                                         And to watch somebody exercise the power that they do have and not be fearful or not move in a way where, you know, they're governed by some agency.
                                         
    
                                         You remember he was up under, I think it was with CAA, but he's independently doing this stuff now.
                                         
                                         And so it feels good to be doing that. But I think like to,
                                         
                                         to,
                                         
                                         to answer,
                                         
                                         I guess the first part of your question,
                                         
                                         him,
                                         
                                         like just him,
                                         
                                         him being in a position to do this is everything.
                                         
    
                                         It's great.
                                         
                                         And it's,
                                         
                                         it's,
                                         
                                         yeah,
                                         
                                         it's new.
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
                                         And so you hope that over time,
                                         
                                         more people,
                                         
    
                                         more black people,
                                         
                                         more Hispanic people,
                                         
                                         more people who are other than white have the ability to leverage their power.
                                         
                                         The reason that we say it's unfair with white people is because oftentimes when white people
                                         
                                         lean on black people in sports, black people don't even have the leverage to push back, right?
                                         
                                         You kind of got to accept whatever they give you. And that's when we say, man, it's unfair because
                                         
                                         we bringing a knife to a gunfight. You know what I'm saying? That's how I like a lot of
                                         
                                         these situations feel at times when you have black players negotiating or black agents negotiating you don't feel like you have the
                                         
    
                                         same leverage as somebody who can lean on you so seeing rich paul do what he's done feels good i
                                         
                                         think that's why cam has so much pride when he came onto the show was like man it's really good
                                         
                                         that we see one of us being able to leverage our power yeah and i i understand what you're saying
                                         
                                         i'm just saying i'm just saying the things I'm
                                         
                                         saying for the conversation so
                                         
                                         we can have both
                                         
                                         views represented. So if
                                         
                                         somebody's watching this show, they don't look
                                         
    
                                         at us as biased.
                                         
                                         I got you.
                                         
                                         You look at me how you want to look at me out there,
                                         
                                         man. I don't give a fuck. I don't really
                                         
                                         care. That's the thing with me.
                                         
                                         I never care. I don't care who it. I don't really care. That's the thing with me. I never care.
                                         
                                         I don't care who it is. I'm going to have my
                                         
                                         opinion and I'm financially stable enough
                                         
    
                                         to say what I want to
                                         
                                         say. That's the
                                         
                                         thing about me. Stat, what was the exact question?
                                         
                                         Basically, I
                                         
                                         was saying, do you think it's a bad look for
                                         
                                         Rich Paul to basically tell your teams
                                         
                                         that he would send Ronnie to Australia if they chose
                                         
                                         him or you think it's not a big deal?
                                         
    
                                         It's a bad look for James
                                         
                                         Harden to come to practice fat because he don't want
                                         
                                         to play with the team.
                                         
                                         It's a bad look when Ben Simmons
                                         
                                         comes to practice with his cell phone
                                         
                                         in his pocket and it's falling all out
                                         
                                         of his pocket so he don't have to
                                         
                                         play with the team. It's a bad
                                         
    
                                         look when Peyton Manning be like, yo, if these niggas
                                         
                                         is picking me, I'm not going to that team. Fuck that. When he was getting drafted, Is it a bad look when Peyton Manning be like, yo, if these niggas is picking me, I'm not going to that team.
                                         
                                         Fuck that.
                                         
                                         When he was getting drafted,
                                         
                                         was that a bad look?
                                         
                                         If you can use your leverage,
                                         
                                         use your leverage.
                                         
                                         Was it a bad look
                                         
    
                                         when Anthony Davis said,
                                         
                                         I'm not playing
                                         
                                         fourth quarters no more
                                         
                                         when he played in New Orleans?
                                         
                                         Niggas be using
                                         
                                         their leverage.
                                         
                                         If you can use
                                         
                                         your leverage,
                                         
    
                                         why not use your leverage?
                                         
                                         It's just,
                                         
                                         this has been going on for years
                                         
                                         and decades
                                         
                                         and probably centuries.
                                         
                                         The reason why we're talking about it now
                                         
                                         is because it's niggas.
                                         
                                         And niggas can't believe it.
                                         
    
                                         These motherfucking niggas.
                                         
                                         When did they get the power
                                         
                                         to start doing the shit that they doing?
                                         
                                         We could do that.
                                         
                                         Now they think they can call the shots.
                                         
                                         Fuck is these niggas?
                                         
                                         Nah, man.
                                         
                                         This has been going on for years.
                                         
    
                                         This is the,
                                         
                                         these niggas has figured it out.
                                         
                                         That's why sometimes, you know,
                                         
                                         I get upset when I sit there and say,
                                         
                                         this nigga want to switch teams again
                                         
                                         and switch teams again,
                                         
                                         switch teams again or whatever.
                                         
                                         The shit these players is doing, don't get me wrong, a lot of it I don't condone because
                                         
    
                                         I'm into competition and playing and competing against the best and not having it, the league,
                                         
                                         lopsided, football, basketball, any sport.
                                         
                                         But when you the owner, these niggas be trading niggas in the middle of the night.
                                         
                                         when you the owner these niggas be trading niggas in the middle
                                         
                                         of the night niggas will be sitting there
                                         
                                         asleep in Denver
                                         
                                         and wake up in Milwaukee
                                         
                                         my nigga this been going on for
                                         
    
                                         years so now that the players have figured
                                         
                                         out I don't want no trade clause in my
                                         
                                         shit nah
                                         
                                         matter of fact if you trade me I ain't showing
                                         
                                         up you know we talk about
                                         
                                         we talk about how
                                         
                                         I'm just using a recent example, but there's several examples of this.
                                         
                                         Drew Holiday got traded to the Trailblazers for Damian Lillard.
                                         
    
                                         He ain't going to the Trailblazers, nigga.
                                         
                                         You can keep me if you want.
                                         
                                         I wish I would show up to Portland.
                                         
                                         You need to figure it out with somebody else.
                                         
                                         I'm not saying that was his attitude.
                                         
                                         Yeah. But we've figure it out with somebody else. I'm not saying that was his attitude. Yeah.
                                         
                                         But we've seen it done before.
                                         
                                         Mm-hmm.
                                         
    
                                         Where niggas be like, oh, yeah?
                                         
                                         I play for the Sacramento Kings.
                                         
                                         I'm not going there.
                                         
                                         So Sacramento, if y'all want to get on the phone with some people and figure it out, cool, because I'm not showing up.
                                         
                                         And you don't want to waste a roster spot, time getting ready for the season, et cetera, et cetera.
                                         
                                         So, yeah, this has been going on for a long time.
                                         
                                         It's just that niggas is doing it now
                                         
                                         and niggas got a problem with it.
                                         
    
                                         And listen, Rich Paul is a black man,
                                         
                                         but he's a nigga.
                                         
                                         That's the real problem.
                                         
                                         You know, it's black men and it's niggas.
                                         
                                         He knows how to conduct himself as a black man
                                         
                                         but that nigga's a nigga and that's the problem they got with that niggas don't like nigga niggas
                                         
                                         niggas like barack clean cut light-skinned black men nigga nigga niggas be in there
                                         
                                         they do not like nigga niggas be they don't yeah i think i think a a great a
                                         
    
                                         great um question would be to ask like people like magic um what does he think about it um
                                         
                                         just to add color to it and i know kobe probably wouldn't be in that in favor of it because he's
                                         
                                         a basketball purist but i definitely understand the sentiment and the time that we're in.
                                         
                                         Real quick to add to that, Kobe got all daughters.
                                         
                                         Think Kobe, if he had a son, wouldn't try to pull this shit off?
                                         
                                         He's doing it with his daughter.
                                         
                                         He's doing the shit you was trying to do, coaching and everything, nigga.
                                         
                                         I'm saying Kobe would have made him earn it.
                                         
    
                                         Kobe wouldn't have did this.
                                         
                                         So you're saying that Bronny didn't earn it?
                                         
                                         That's what you're saying?
                                         
                                         I'm not going on record saying he didn't earn it,
                                         
                                         but I'm saying Kobe wouldn't have.
                                         
                                         Kobe wouldn't have wanted it this way.
                                         
                                         He would have wanted to earn it.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         Are you saying your thoughts
                                         
                                         or are you saying like the other side thought?
                                         
                                         Is this how it is? No, that's my thought. That's my thought that's my thought that's my thought okay this is a good conversation y'all okay so before we move on how are we feeling about the second day of the draft do you guys like
                                         
                                         that it goes over two days did anybody really stick out to you guys how are we feeling about
                                         
                                         this day to Maurice first no I didn't pay attention to anybody other than the UConn players and Bronny.
                                         
                                         Just like it is.
                                         
                                         They could have did this
                                         
                                         all in one day.
                                         
    
                                         Just to be honest,
                                         
                                         they could have
                                         
                                         did the entire draft
                                         
                                         with only 60 picks.
                                         
                                         And they could have
                                         
                                         just been done with it.
                                         
                                         And then I got to ask you
                                         
                                         really quick.
                                         
    
                                         So UConn has had
                                         
                                         eight players drafted
                                         
                                         in six seasons
                                         
                                         under Dan Hurley,
                                         
                                         including six in the last two seasons.
                                         
                                         How are you feeling about his impact? Because he's always making historical numbers.
                                         
                                         So I'm sure you can attest to that, Maurice.
                                         
                                         I like this, man. It's like anything else, man.
                                         
    
                                         When you see, you know, I've seen a lot of these young kids come directly from high school and, you know, you step on campus, they dream it.
                                         
                                         And, you know, all of them want to go to the NBA. And I don't know you know who's able to go versus who isn't and just to see some of those
                                         
                                         young kids you know live out their dreams like i still get like um like that magical moment that
                                         
                                         everybody sees on tv where you see a kid around his family and they crying and uh you end up
                                         
                                         seeing mothers and fathers like the key is step Castle, right? I remember meeting his mother out in Arizona and just knowing where he comes from,
                                         
                                         knowing his family, meeting these people in the lobbies and hanging out with them
                                         
                                         and just knowing these dudes' lives are changed.
                                         
                                         You know, I just think that's special.
                                         
    
                                         I think for any kid, you know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         Whether you want the first pick or the last pick, you're going to get some money.
                                         
                                         And I know NIL has contributed to it, but you're getting some money
                                         
                                         and you finally reached that
                                         
                                         destination. So I'm proud for
                                         
                                         all the kids that came from UConn and
                                         
                                         this only helps them to bring in more kids because now
                                         
                                         you can say, hey, we win national championships
                                         
    
                                         and we send kids in the first round.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I
                                         
                                         really believe when I was
                                         
                                         looking at the draft
                                         
                                         Castle, I
                                         
                                         thought he would have went earlier being a 6-6 guard um
                                         
                                         but this is what happens um i think the whole entire second day was was set up just for um
                                         
                                         for brani and that's a that's a good thing but i that's how it comes across it's the first time
                                         
    
                                         they ever did it and i think if it would have happened in the first day it would have kind of overshadowed some other people's moments so it's just speak to the power
                                         
                                         of of of the people that be i ain't watching that shit yeah so the the second day and i think it was
                                         
                                         a great a great idea because it maximizes the brand and maximizes the brand for the
                                         
                                         Lakers.
                                         
                                         So I'm,
                                         
                                         I'm for all of that.
                                         
                                         I'm just,
                                         
                                         um,
                                         
    
                                         speaking as a basketball purist.
                                         
                                         And then also just adding to that,
                                         
                                         I mean,
                                         
                                         Bronnie being the 55th pick and this being on the second day had a lot of
                                         
                                         impact.
                                         
                                         Like,
                                         
                                         I don't think we've gotten this late into the rounds and been that
                                         
                                         enthusiastic to see a player get drafted.
                                         
    
                                         So to your point, it being later on, it does work to kind of give the first people their shine.
                                         
                                         But I think a person that we were all waiting to see what was going to happen was Bronny James.
                                         
                                         Yeah, because once it got to like the 40th pick, you know how normally in the draft,
                                         
                                         it starts seeing all of the talent that's still out there.
                                         
                                         It's like they just kept saying,
                                         
                                         um,
                                         
                                         Bronnie,
                                         
                                         Bronnie,
                                         
    
                                         Bronnie.
                                         
                                         And that is a dope thing.
                                         
                                         I mean,
                                         
                                         I wouldn't,
                                         
                                         I wouldn't trade that moment for anything.
                                         
                                         That's what's supposed to happen.
                                         
                                         If you,
                                         
                                         if you can do it,
                                         
    
                                         like killer say,
                                         
                                         you do it because you got the leverage to do it.
                                         
                                         That's why you work to get leverage so you can use it to your advantage.
                                         
                                         So I don't want nobody to hear me and think, Oh, Mace is, hey, no, I'm just giving you the realities of it.
                                         
                                         Like, yo, even though you can do some things, it doesn't always mean it's the best thing to do.
                                         
                                         You could do a lot of things.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         So we're going to go to break.
                                         
    
                                         When we return, we will discuss this new rule by the NCAA.
                                         
                                         Don't go anywhere.
                                         
                                         Can you tell us a little bit more about that?
                                         
                                         I mean, is there...
                                         
                                         I was selling crack on a private jet.
                                         
                                         I don't get the shot.
                                         
                                         Dipsecateur.
                                         
                                         Make sure you go online to dipsecateur.us
                                         
    
                                         to order some shirts and everything else, buddy.
                                         
                                         So I'm going to get some cheeks after this.
                                         
                                         Jewelry and bikes, nigga. Black Benz's and white Vickers. Now I'm out here and I'm going to do some cheeks after sports. Welcome back. Now let's get into
                                         
                                         our underdog fantasy picks of the day. So tonight, the Mercury will play the Sparks.
                                         
                                         Underdog fantasy has Brittany Griner at seven and a half rebounds.
                                         
                                         Do you have her higher or lower mace?
                                         
                                         Higher.
                                         
                                         Higher.
                                         
    
                                         Hey, Diana Taurasi is at 15 and a half points.
                                         
                                         Do you have her higher or lower cam?
                                         
                                         Higher.
                                         
                                         Higher.
                                         
                                         Come on, man.
                                         
                                         Hey, and D'Erica Hamby is at four first quarter points.
                                         
                                         Do you have her higher or lower mace?
                                         
                                         I'm going lower, boss.
                                         
    
                                         Higher.
                                         
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                                         We are joined back with our analyst, Maurice Claret.
                                         
                                         So the NCAA will no longer be testing athletes for cannabis
                                         
                                         after removing it from the banned drug list for athletes
                                         
                                         participating in championships and postseason games.
                                         
                                         How are we feeling about this new change?
                                         
                                         Maurice first.
                                         
    
                                         I'm happy that the, excuse me, I'm happy that the NCAA is just finally getting out the way
                                         
                                         and getting on board with what's been taking place for forever.
                                         
                                         You know, kids in college, kids in professional sport,
                                         
                                         or adults in professional sports, they don't smoke weed.
                                         
                                         Before this ruling came out, it used to be a rule that either for PEDs
                                         
                                         or for weed, they would test you in March,
                                         
                                         and it was like very known that they would test you in March.
                                         
                                         And so, you know, the coaches would get with all the college kids
                                         
    
                                         and say, hey, man man clean up right before march and they would do everything to get you to
                                         
                                         pass the test and so this is basically saying hey now that we're paying these dudes with nil with
                                         
                                         the money now that we're sharing revenue and now that we're paying these niggas uh to perform we
                                         
                                         don't want to have these dudes sitting on the sideline and so that came from somebody's board
                                         
                                         of directors and everybody else and so i'm actually happy i'm actually happy with it i think
                                         
                                         like i don't know who else said it earlier i think may said it earlier where people are just vocal
                                         
                                         and out front about what's really going on and uh this is just a step to see what's going on but the
                                         
                                         interesting thing that i don't know is that i wonder how this will affect the nfl because if
                                         
    
                                         you get college kids believing
                                         
                                         that, you know, it's okay to smoke weed and then NFL really isn't all the way on board with, um,
                                         
                                         just, you know, we smoking and, uh, the testing, I just wonder how it's going to affect the kids
                                         
                                         at the next level. Those who do go. And, and just for, just for, um, for learning sake, if,
                                         
                                         if it's elite, if they're not testing for it, are you able to come in smelling like weed from your vantage point?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You know, kids do it already.
                                         
                                         You know what I mean?
                                         
    
                                         And that's not a right or wrong thing.
                                         
                                         And I believe, like, there was players, man, who I seen play.
                                         
                                         They played better.
                                         
                                         I don't want to say, to say it just sounds crazy saying it
                                         
                                         but they just function better high or they just they were they were just different people you
                                         
                                         know once they were they were under the influence whether they was performing whether there's
                                         
                                         lifting weights whether there was a meetings you know you have indica you have sativa you have
                                         
                                         different strains of weed that makes you operate differently So they've already been doing it
                                         
    
                                         This is just them publicly coming out and saying it but I think them saying it is only for
                                         
                                         Them not being able to have players be suspended for basically getting popped for dirty urns
                                         
                                         No, man, I remember um, hey, I was getting 40
                                         
                                         He was smoking weed and he didn't care about it, but he was getting 38, 40, 42.
                                         
                                         And I mean, I know we're talking about college, but you're right.
                                         
                                         There are some people that perform very well that way.
                                         
                                         I just don't know how that will roll over.
                                         
                                         If you you have a good game and then you walk by and you see, let's see, Pat Riley or somebody and they're looking at you and they can smell the weed
                                         
    
                                         when you're walking in the tunnel.
                                         
                                         But like Killer said, if you're good enough,
                                         
                                         they'll make a way for it or they'll turn out the way for it.
                                         
                                         So I don't really have much to say about that.
                                         
                                         Yeah, Mo, you made a great point.
                                         
                                         It's not just, I know a few people and some kids
                                         
                                         on the spectrum,
                                         
                                         they function better
                                         
    
                                         when they're on cannabis
                                         
                                         and not to be high,
                                         
                                         just to fit into society better.
                                         
                                         Sometimes they're socially awkward
                                         
                                         and they're tense
                                         
                                         and they're jumpy
                                         
                                         and it actually helps them.
                                         
                                         I'm not just talking
                                         
    
                                         about athletes.
                                         
                                         I'm just talking about
                                         
                                         people in general
                                         
                                         that function better on weed. And I know we're talking about athletes. I'm just talking about people in general that function better on weed.
                                         
                                         And I know we're talking about athletes.
                                         
                                         That's something totally different.
                                         
                                         But to your point, I get what you're saying when you was talking about people actually being in certain settings, being better with weed.
                                         
                                         Like I said, it isn't just athletes.
                                         
    
                                         It's sometimes just calming yourself down from a situation.
                                         
                                         I know somebody who, if they leave the room and come back in the room
                                         
                                         and it's not the same as when they left,
                                         
                                         they kind of bug out and have to leave the room again
                                         
                                         and get ready to see how the room looks.
                                         
                                         It was like the craziest shit I've ever seen.
                                         
                                         I forget what it was called, but she explained it to me.
                                         
                                         But the weed calmed her down, make a long story short. Back to the original
                                         
    
                                         question. Look,
                                         
                                         man, NCAA,
                                         
                                         y'all ain't low, my nigga. Y'all not low.
                                         
                                         This NIL shit fucked y'all up.
                                         
                                         It fucked y'all up bad. Now y'all want to
                                         
                                         pay students? Let them smoke their weed.
                                         
                                         Fuck it. Do whatever the fuck they got to do.
                                         
                                         We got to get these motherfucking players to our
                                         
    
                                         school. I don't give a fuck. As long
                                         
                                         as it ain't crack cocaine,
                                         
                                         let them smoke they fucking weed, man.
                                         
                                         All right, what are we talking about here?
                                         
                                         I can see the meeting.
                                         
                                         I can actually see this meeting.
                                         
                                         What are we talking about here?
                                         
                                         It's legal in 37 states.
                                         
    
                                         Why are we not having it?
                                         
                                         What are we complaining about?
                                         
                                         They're not coming in here with crystal meth.
                                         
                                         Everybody smokes weed.
                                         
                                         John, your wife smokes weed.
                                         
                                         She smoked weed with my wife.
                                         
                                         That meeting was probably fucking crazy because
                                         
                                         it was so easy to decide.
                                         
    
                                         We was talking about one show,
                                         
                                         a few weeks ago. The school,
                                         
                                         state by state, we seen every week
                                         
                                         a new state saying it's okay to
                                         
                                         pay players, right?
                                         
                                         Yes. Now they can smoke
                                         
                                         weed too. Do
                                         
                                         what you got to do. We are losing.
                                         
    
                                         We losing bad. Every fucking year we keep losing.
                                         
                                         Shout out to Deion Sanders. You shook this shit up. Niggas can smoke weed now and the schools
                                         
                                         is playing paying niggas. This is what happens when a nigga come in there and change what's not
                                         
                                         regular. And I'm not saying Deion Sanders is letting us play and smoke weed or anything like
                                         
                                         that. I'm talking about what the schools are willing to do now
                                         
                                         to get kids to come to their school.
                                         
                                         Paying y'all and letting y'all get high.
                                         
                                         NCAA, y'all not low.
                                         
    
                                         Y'all are not low.
                                         
                                         Y'all could have been doing this for years, man.
                                         
                                         Y'all put Chris Webber to five-five,
                                         
                                         all these players, fucking Reggie Bush.
                                         
                                         Through the ringer, yep.
                                         
                                         Yeah, through the ringer.
                                         
                                         They're on the monkey wrench in their program.
                                         
                                         And now y'all saying, damn, they figured a way around us.
                                         
    
                                         Just let them do the shit that they've been doing anyway.
                                         
                                         More nigga shit, even if they white.
                                         
                                         Wigga shit.
                                         
                                         It don't matter.
                                         
                                         Let them do what they got to do to get them to our school.
                                         
                                         It's dumb obvious.
                                         
                                         And it kind of disgusts me a little bit
                                         
                                         because it's like
                                         
    
                                         y'all not even being,
                                         
                                         y'all didn't,
                                         
                                         like for instance,
                                         
                                         and I didn't see the statement
                                         
                                         or anything like that.
                                         
                                         I would have been more happy
                                         
                                         if them niggas
                                         
                                         would have been like,
                                         
    
                                         due to studies,
                                         
                                         we have went back
                                         
                                         and found out that
                                         
                                         marijuana is not
                                         
                                         so-and-so, so-and-so,
                                         
                                         this, that, and the third
                                         
                                         and it's actually
                                         
                                         culpable to help you become a better,
                                         
    
                                         I would have been happy with that.
                                         
                                         Not just, no, y'all niggas can smoke now if y'all want.
                                         
                                         Come to our school and we got 20,000 for you if you need it.
                                         
                                         That's what they basically saying without saying it.
                                         
                                         Y'all ain't long.
                                         
                                         So, man, it's to your point.
                                         
                                         Most of the times when this stuff comes out,
                                         
                                         you will hear somebody saying, hey, man, we're having this discussion in our chambers
                                         
    
                                         and we've been discussing it for four or five months.
                                         
                                         When you look at the timing of this,
                                         
                                         soon as they said that the decision
                                         
                                         for revenue sharing came out,
                                         
                                         man, three weeks later, this comes out.
                                         
                                         You know what I'm saying?
                                         
                                         And it's basically, man,
                                         
                                         we need these niggas on the field.
                                         
    
                                         That's it.
                                         
                                         Or we need these niggas on the basketball court. That's it. Yeah, and they, yo, it's basically, man, we need these niggas on the field. That's it. We need these niggas on the basketball court.
                                         
                                         That's it.
                                         
                                         It's obvious.
                                         
                                         That's what I said.
                                         
                                         Shit is blatant.
                                         
                                         And then just...
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think
                                         
    
                                         when it comes
                                         
                                         to it,
                                         
                                         they just got to watch it because
                                         
                                         when you're dealing with weed if somebody get
                                         
                                         get their giant lace and they run on the court and do something crazy it could go
                                         
                                         i don't think i don't think college sports is ready for a bad batch you know i'm saying just
                                         
                                         i mean that's just thinking out loud you know a football player hit the wrong blunt
                                         
                                         it's gonna be a real oh we'll see it. You'll see it.
                                         
    
                                         Because everybody's going to be honest with what they're selling. So, you know, that's going to be
                                         
                                         a crazy time. And then just for a little bit more context, so you guys can hear the quote that the
                                         
                                         chair of the council said. So he said the NCAA drug testing program is intended to focus on
                                         
                                         integrity of competition and cannabis products do not provide a competitive advantage.
                                         
                                         They want to center on student athlete health and well-being rather than punishment for cannabis use.
                                         
                                         So I think it's just to really just lay off the whole stress of like, OK, you're smoking weed.
                                         
                                         Like we want you to focus, play a good game.
                                         
                                         We're going to take that out the way.
                                         
    
                                         But Macy do bring up a good point because you can't regulate certain things.
                                         
                                         So you can't regulate it.
                                         
                                         But Macy, you do bring up a good point because you can't regulate certain things.
                                         
                                         So you never regulate it.
                                         
                                         You know, somebody give you the wrong blunt and then they go on a lab line and he just start.
                                         
                                         I mean, we from Harlem. So we know you get a bad blunt.
                                         
                                         All jokes aside, like a little kid from Harlem just ran off the off the roof the other day.
                                         
                                         It's like people get the wrong blunt.
                                         
    
                                         They could do something really crazy. So, you know, just adding the other day. It's like, people get the wrong blunt, they could do something
                                         
                                         really crazy.
                                         
                                         So,
                                         
                                         you know,
                                         
                                         just adding that other side.
                                         
                                         It's basically not,
                                         
                                         this has nothing to do with me, sir.
                                         
                                         It's like,
                                         
    
                                         all over the place with sports.
                                         
                                         And I know Olympics
                                         
                                         and track and everything
                                         
                                         is everything else.
                                         
                                         Girl just was smoking weed,
                                         
                                         killing niggas running,
                                         
                                         and got suspended.
                                         
                                         Now the NCAA is sitting there saying, smoking weed,
                                         
    
                                         come play for us. Take the money.
                                         
                                         It's all good. You can do
                                         
                                         whatever you want to do.
                                         
                                         There's no balance.
                                         
                                         It's all over.
                                         
                                         Great point.
                                         
                                         Okay, and so now we're going to discuss
                                         
                                         Devin Haney. So he says he's ready
                                         
    
                                         for this Ryan Garcia rematch, and he wants we're going to discuss Devin Haney. So he says he's ready for this Ryan Garcia rematch,
                                         
                                         and he wants it back in blood.
                                         
                                         He said, I would love for my next fight to be against Ryan Garcia.
                                         
                                         I want to get mine back in blood.
                                         
                                         I'm just that kind of fighter.
                                         
                                         He will pay for what he did in and out of the ring.
                                         
                                         So after hearing that,
                                         
                                         how do you guys feel about Devin Haney's comments about Ryan Garcia?
                                         
    
                                         Marty's first.
                                         
                                         I'm happy.
                                         
                                         I think he's probably set and he's heard all the conversation.
                                         
                                         He's probably went through, you know, all the drama of the PEDs and everything like that.
                                         
                                         And I think he went back in that gym where he talked to somebody who was real with him.
                                         
                                         And they said, man, the only way you get your get back, it ain't through talking, it ain't through social media, it ain't through arguing over a live, it ain't your pops going out here and defending your
                                         
                                         name.
                                         
                                         The only way when you a fighter to get your get back is to get inside that ring and see
                                         
    
                                         if you can really whoop his ass.
                                         
                                         Because I'm pretty sure he's on social media like everybody else.
                                         
                                         Everything that he says like, hey man, give me my zero back.
                                         
                                         And everybody's response is people can't unsee that ass whooping, right? And I think
                                         
                                         that that affects him, right? And I really believe that he's a
                                         
                                         champion. He's been a fighter since forever. And I think like,
                                         
                                         you know, like, you just have to be honest with yourself. Like,
                                         
                                         how do I redeem myself? The only way you redeem yourself is if
                                         
    
                                         you get back in that ring and walk that road and go back to
                                         
                                         those, you know, face offs and you know, you get back in ring
                                         
                                         and so I'm proud for him to even say it because that means he's obligated himself
                                         
                                         to say, hey, I want to do this again.
                                         
                                         And I hope that Ryan, and I know he got personal shit going on with wanting to fight
                                         
                                         this year long suspension, but I hope they do get back in the ring.
                                         
                                         And I really hope Devin redeems himself the right way in the ring.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I really hope Devin redeems himself the right way in the ring. Yeah, I agree. I agree 100 percent with you more on this, because when it comes to Devin Haney, his initial response to the loss was kind of shattering for us as Devin Haney fans.
                                         
    
                                         If you if you look at how he first was talking, like, you know, I probably never get in the ring with him.
                                         
                                         And then you see how they was trying to get him to fight the other guy.
                                         
                                         And he didn't want to, not he didn't want to fight the guy.
                                         
                                         He just, his team said they wasn't ready to take that fight.
                                         
                                         I truly believe the conversations did make its way to his brain and saying, you know what?
                                         
                                         You got to get back in the ring.
                                         
                                         You can't just call places, try to get these videos deleted.
                                         
                                         And that's kind of like, you know, how it seemed like he was thinking.
                                         
    
                                         And somewhere it's like, bro, they're not going to pull down the pay-per-view.
                                         
                                         They're not going to pull down.
                                         
                                         DeSone can't get it pulled down.
                                         
                                         Matchroom can't get it pulled down.
                                         
                                         You're going to have to fight again. And he didn't't get it pulled down. Matchroom can't get it pulled down. You're going
                                         
                                         to have to fight again. And he didn't even have to fight Ryan Garcia next, but he has to get back
                                         
                                         to fighting. I think when you take a whole year off and if you had a problem making weight and
                                         
                                         you take a whole year off, it will be even harder to make that weight because you got to kind of stay close to that weight,
                                         
    
                                         that weight level to fight at that fight.
                                         
                                         And that's too much management for a person that just got beat so decisively.
                                         
                                         And not to mention, it's great that he's saying this, but what happens if Ryan gets drugged up again?
                                         
                                         Like I know a lot of people saying because he's on probation, he probably won't do it.
                                         
                                         But I mean, if you're a troll, you're a troll, right?
                                         
                                         What makes him not get in a press conference and start talking crazy to him?
                                         
                                         You know, I'm juiced up, right?
                                         
                                         You know, I'm juiced up.
                                         
    
                                         You ready?
                                         
                                         You ready to fight, nigga?
                                         
                                         Because, you know, I might I might be juiced up, nigga. And'm juiced up you ready you ready to fight nigga because you know i might
                                         
                                         i might be juiced up niggas and he started talking to him like that is definitely gonna do something
                                         
                                         to the way he's thinking because his initial response showed that he was very fragile mentally
                                         
                                         and i i wish i wish nothing more for the fighters of today, especially Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia, that they really develop mentally.
                                         
                                         So they're not so broken when you lose one fight.
                                         
                                         It seemed like people are so broken by one fight and Muhammad Ali and people like that lost five fights and still came back to beat those people.
                                         
    
                                         And sometimes you got to take a fight somewhere else
                                         
                                         before you fight Ryan Garcia.
                                         
                                         So that's what I feel about this.
                                         
                                         I don't feel like Ryan should be the next fight,
                                         
                                         but you should take a fight before the year's over
                                         
                                         with somebody else that you probably can beat.
                                         
                                         But if you're so locked in about the money,
                                         
                                         then it's going to force you to go back to this fight
                                         
    
                                         and you might not be ready. And that's going to force you to go back to this fight and you might
                                         
                                         not be ready. And that's what we saw happen to Deontay Wilder. He jumped right back in the ring
                                         
                                         with Fury, got beat worse. And now where do we go from here? If he gets beat worse next time,
                                         
                                         it'll be completely over for him. And I think that's a bad decision. And I got super love for the Haney's and the whole camp,
                                         
                                         but I think that's a bad decision,
                                         
                                         especially when dealing with a troll.
                                         
                                         There's too much going on.
                                         
                                         If he's mentally fragile and this guy is mentally challenging
                                         
    
                                         outside and in the ring, that's a bad combination.
                                         
                                         I want him to fight next.
                                         
                                         I don't think that he could beat him.
                                         
                                         And like I said, I fuck with Devin, and I fuck with Bill.
                                         
                                         Styles make fights.
                                         
                                         The way he would have a chance, my personal opinion,
                                         
                                         is if they follow the same guidelines that Tank did.
                                         
                                         I don't know what weight they're going to meet at,
                                         
    
                                         but that rehydration shit matters.
                                         
                                         And Tank was smart,
                                         
                                         and his camp took advantage of that.
                                         
                                         And Ryan, you could tell in the fight,
                                         
                                         if you look at Ryan in the ring with Tank,
                                         
                                         and you look at Ryan in the ring with Devin,
                                         
                                         it's two totally different niggas.
                                         
                                         It's almost like a skeleton to a diesel nigga.
                                         
    
                                         Pause.
                                         
                                         It's two totally different niggas.
                                         
                                         So that rehydration shit really, really matters.
                                         
                                         It matters a lot.
                                         
                                         So if you're going to do that, the Haney camp I'm talking to, I support it.
                                         
                                         If not, even if you had a fight in between,
                                         
                                         I just think that Mace made a great point just now.
                                         
                                         The mental games,
                                         
    
                                         he plays a lot.
                                         
                                         He looks bigger.
                                         
                                         Pause.
                                         
                                         Like,
                                         
                                         I seen him
                                         
                                         trying to fucking troll Tank
                                         
                                         in real time
                                         
                                         after Tank's fight.
                                         
    
                                         Talking about,
                                         
                                         yo,
                                         
                                         you got to give me a rematch
                                         
                                         after Tank
                                         
                                         knocked out Homeboy
                                         
                                         a couple weeks ago.
                                         
                                         He's in the ring apron
                                         
                                         talking to Tank.
                                         
    
                                         He's like,
                                         
                                         yo,
                                         
                                         I got to get the rem's like yo i gotta get the
                                         
                                         rematch i got the rematch the tank say yo you look like you're 200 pounds like that's what tank told
                                         
                                         him he's like bro that nigga's walking around like 200 now nigga so if you even get him down
                                         
                                         to 147 or 140 the next day he gonna balloon up to 170 180 and them left hooks look like they hurt
                                         
                                         them shits look like they hurt man i think it needs a lot of strategy needs to be thought about before just rushing back into it.
                                         
                                         I get it.
                                         
    
                                         We found out the nigga was cheating.
                                         
                                         I seen Bill Haney actually on live with Ryan having a great conversation.
                                         
                                         Shout out to Zab Judah.
                                         
                                         I think he put that together.
                                         
                                         It was really dope.
                                         
                                         Ryan was really just the calmest I've ever seen Ryan.
                                         
                                         He was like, yo, I'm not arguing. He he's like i don't even have to be here i'm telling you what
                                         
                                         happened what i took etc etc but my personal opinion is before you go into these fights a
                                         
    
                                         lot of strategy has to be done yeah um going back to floyd mayweather and i'll wrap this up uh
                                         
                                         quickly um going back to floyd maywe, he was probably one of the best strategists
                                         
                                         besides boxers. He would
                                         
                                         sit down and say, oh Canelo,
                                         
                                         you think you're that nigga?
                                         
                                         So and so, you're 22, you're the best.
                                         
                                         Meet me at 154.
                                         
                                         Cool. You sit there and you fight
                                         
    
                                         Manny Pacquiao. When he fights Manny Pacquiao,
                                         
                                         I can't think of her homeboy's name,
                                         
                                         but he took Manny Pacquiao's
                                         
                                         strength and conditioning coach and he hired him just not to go work with Manny Pacquiao.
                                         
                                         He kept him in the gym with him every day and he didn't even use him for his training.
                                         
                                         He just said, you can't go hang out with him.
                                         
                                         I don't know what y'all got going on, but I don't like it.
                                         
                                         Y'all fuck niggas up together.
                                         
    
                                         You work for me.
                                         
                                         All this is strategy. We sit there and watch him, whether he
                                         
                                         told us or not, we sit there
                                         
                                         and watch him on FaceTime with Ryan Garcia
                                         
                                         say,
                                         
                                         we sit
                                         
                                         there and see him and Tank's corner
                                         
                                         before they start falling out, rehydration
                                         
    
                                         clause. This nigga's smart.
                                         
                                         And instead of being
                                         
                                         emotional, that's what you gotta do.
                                         
                                         It's come up with a great strategy
                                         
                                         and not have a rematch built
                                         
                                         off of emotions because Mace made a great point
                                         
                                         when it came to Deontay Wilder that was
                                         
                                         purely off emotions
                                         
    
                                         when it came with Tyson Fury
                                         
                                         and another thing
                                         
                                         going back to this fight
                                         
                                         if you look at
                                         
                                         like you said how he fought Javante
                                         
                                         the first two rounds he was
                                         
                                         trying to attack giovante the same way so we know that he's going to be aggressive and if you knock
                                         
                                         somebody out the first time you fight them again you're coming for that same knockout you i would
                                         
    
                                         i would i wouldn't throw nothing but that hook you You're going to have to show me you could take the hook.
                                         
                                         And I think that's just horrible, man, like just a horrible decision.
                                         
                                         And another thing you got to come to terms with is that you took the money for the three pounds.
                                         
                                         So then you don't get to complain about the three pounds if you take the money for the three pounds and still fight.
                                         
                                         So if you and a fighter come in a ring, you're like, he's five pounds over.
                                         
                                         But give me a million and we still fight.
                                         
                                         If I give you the million, you don't get to say that I'm five pounds over because we paid for that.
                                         
                                         And you got in the ring with the money.
                                         
    
                                         And I'm not saying that he took the money, but I'm saying that's the concept.
                                         
                                         That's another thing I thought about.
                                         
                                         I didn't want to leave that out.
                                         
                                         So I got to ask, if Devin Haney's next fight was the rematch fight,
                                         
                                         what would happen to him and his legacy that he's starting if he lost?
                                         
                                         It depends on how he—go ahead, Mo.
                                         
                                         No, I was going to think like—I think about how Keith Thurman when he lost, and I think
                                         
                                         about guys like Earl Spence, you know, and I'm pretty sure there's two things I want
                                         
    
                                         to say. The first thing I want to say, it was back to Cam when he was talking about
                                         
                                         how Floyd at times has wisdom from being in the game so long. And it made me think of
                                         
                                         like, sometimes they may reject Floyd for some reasons. But if people value wisdom,
                                         
                                         they will keep them around for just these nuanced things that they should know in regards
                                         
                                         to boxing. That was one thing but I think like that's like even even having the wisdom
                                         
                                         with how do you total align with making sure you can make money but then also picking the
                                         
                                         right fights and all of the little nuances around it, that's probably, and I don't
                                         
                                         know Bill, and I don't want to say it is him, but that's probably what somebody like Floyd would do
                                         
    
                                         for some of these guys, just walking that path and being around the game for so long.
                                         
                                         But I don't know, boxing is fickle. And every time everybody runs from a loss or that they don't want
                                         
                                         to lose, they devalue the prizes that they can make moving forward
                                         
                                         because it becomes about the undefeated record and never getting beat by anybody.
                                         
                                         So I believe that he would be just like one of these other guys
                                         
                                         who ends up losing and they go to the wayside.
                                         
                                         But you need somebody to change the narrative.
                                         
                                         I know the guy from Saudi Arabia wants to create one league and have guys fight each other. You would obviously lose more in that scenario.
                                         
    
                                         But I just think that he would end up being like somebody else. And I'm pretty sure that
                                         
                                         his father weighs that in his mind. Like, hey, man, you know, if you go out here and
                                         
                                         lose, we could be on the outside begging guys for fights. And so I think that in the state
                                         
                                         of boxing now you ruin your career.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and I think that you're right.
                                         
                                         That narrative needs to change because there's only, I think, about two fighters I remember staying undefeated.
                                         
                                         Floyd and probably one other boxer. So I think running with that narrative is unrealistic.
                                         
                                         Everybody's going to lose at some point.
                                         
    
                                         is unrealistic. Everybody's going to lose at some point. So making your whole legacy based on not losing is not really a great, great plan when you're daring to be great. And Devin Haney doesn't
                                         
                                         cross me as a guy that doesn't want to smoke. He's the guy. That's why he got in this position
                                         
                                         because he wanted to smoke, because he knew what their history was and he wanted to clear that up.
                                         
                                         So my hat does go off to him about that because even all the times he got
                                         
                                         knocked down, he never, he never caved in. He got up every time,
                                         
                                         even though he got beat worse as he got up, he still got up.
                                         
                                         And I think he needs Floyd.
                                         
                                         I want to go on a record and say that he needs Floyd because the
                                         
    
                                         style of way that he fights, Floyd is the best at using your strengths against you. Nobody else I've
                                         
                                         seen in boxing does that like Floyd. He'll take the thing that you do well and use that to your
                                         
                                         disadvantage. And I think that's what Devin has to learn to do. How do I make this hook to his disadvantage?
                                         
                                         Like when he does this,
                                         
                                         I'm going to do this.
                                         
                                         And,
                                         
                                         and without that,
                                         
                                         I don't think he wins.
                                         
    
                                         So he got to,
                                         
                                         he got to humble himself and go get with Floyd.
                                         
                                         I think Shakur got to get with Floyd.
                                         
                                         Haney got to get with Floyd and whoever think they're going to beat Tank.
                                         
                                         They better go get with Floyd. That's probably to get with Floyd. And whoever think they're going to beat Tank, they better go get with Floyd.
                                         
                                         That's probably the only way
                                         
                                         they could beat Tank.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         You know,
                                         
                                         everybody wants to be undefeated
                                         
                                         and stay undefeated.
                                         
                                         But I think
                                         
                                         it's because of Floyd.
                                         
                                         Floyd is the standard
                                         
                                         for these young niggas
                                         
                                         and Floyd retired undefeated.
                                         
    
                                         So when niggas
                                         
                                         don't want their O to go, they already think, damn, I'm not going to be better than what Floyd was. Because
                                         
                                         Floyd's not the young nigga no more. You know, when we was younger, Floyd might have been
                                         
                                         looking at Roy Jones, or you might have been looking at Mike Tyson, or you might have been
                                         
                                         looking at Larry Holmes. It depends on how old you are. But for these niggas, Floyd's the standard, and he has zero losses.
                                         
                                         So once you lose, in their brain I'm talking about,
                                         
                                         you're already not going to be the best.
                                         
                                         Because the best nigga that we ever seen,
                                         
    
                                         talking about the younger fight leads, never lost.
                                         
                                         So that's why I think these fighters are so protective of not losing.
                                         
                                         But you can still lose and be that nigga.
                                         
                                         Manny Pacquiao lost five, six times.
                                         
                                         Manny Pacquiao fight any one of these niggas.
                                         
                                         Tank, fucking Devin, Shakur.
                                         
                                         Nigga, the lights is on, nigga.
                                         
                                         He's not a bigger star than him.
                                         
    
                                         Don't get me wrong.
                                         
                                         Tank is right there, but Manny's international,
                                         
                                         and Tank's on his way.
                                         
                                         Y'all niggas want to get a check?
                                         
                                         Stop calling Floyd and everybody.
                                         
                                         Call Manny out.
                                         
                                         Yeah, Manny is show up.
                                         
                                         Manny's coming to fight y'all niggas.
                                         
    
                                         He about 45, 45.
                                         
                                         He coming to fight
                                         
                                         every last one of y'all niggas.
                                         
                                         Y'all want to get a real check?
                                         
                                         Y'all want to see
                                         
                                         the pay-per-view numbers go up?
                                         
                                         Y'all want to see the arena
                                         
                                         filled to the raptors, call
                                         
    
                                         Pitt Manny Pacquiao. He got five losses, six losses. He's showing up like he ain't ever
                                         
                                         lost a fight in his life. That's the attitude you got to have because everybody's not going
                                         
                                         to have a zero record moving forward. And I get it. You got Floyd Mayweather. You got
                                         
                                         Terrence Crawford. These niggas ain't lose, so you're like, damn, if I lose, I ain't never.
                                         
                                         No, you can still be great.
                                         
                                         Sometimes styles make fights.
                                         
                                         Sometimes when boxing, you get caught slipping one night.
                                         
                                         It's a fight.
                                         
    
                                         It can happen.
                                         
                                         But stop thinking because if you lose a fight, it's over.
                                         
                                         It's not over.
                                         
                                         And what happens is you're really depriving the fans and slowing down your career because
                                         
                                         y'all are picking and choosing and taking too long to fight each other because you
                                         
                                         got to make sure you don't lose.
                                         
                                         Keith Thurman, you brought him up.
                                         
                                         He had one loss. Who'd he lose to?
                                         
    
                                         Manny Pacquiao. That's what I'm
                                         
                                         trying to tell you. So at the end of the day,
                                         
                                         we got to stop
                                         
                                         talking about you as boxers.
                                         
                                         Don't think one loss is over for
                                         
                                         you, my nigga. Great, great, great boxers.
                                         
                                         Some of them have three, four, five, six losses.
                                         
                                         But if y'all niggas
                                         
    
                                         want to check,
                                         
                                         call Manny Pacquiao.
                                         
                                         He's showing up.
                                         
                                         He's definitely showing up.
                                         
                                         At what weight class?
                                         
                                         What weight class?
                                         
                                         Manny Pacquiao
                                         
                                         started off at 110
                                         
    
                                         and went up to 154.
                                         
                                         That nigga fun.
                                         
                                         Whatever weight class.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he'll fight 140.
                                         
                                         Whatever weight class
                                         
                                         you want to meet him at,
                                         
                                         he know how to get there.
                                         
                                         Yeah, him and Tank will be a goodie.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I think that's better than the Floyd and Tank.
                                         
                                         I think Tank and Manny Pacquiao.
                                         
                                         Or Lomacheco.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think.
                                         
                                         I would really like to see Tank and Pacquiao because we know Pacquiao ain't backing up.
                                         
                                         He fight coming forward.
                                         
                                         Tank fight coming forward.
                                         
                                         We've seen Pacquiao been put to sleep.
                                         
    
                                         But Pacquiao come with them sleep, but Pacquiao come
                                         
                                         with them six, seven, eight punch combinations.
                                         
                                         Jumping in and jumping.
                                         
                                         Pacquiao and Tank.
                                         
                                         Amazing. I would
                                         
                                         love to see that.
                                         
                                         Great conversation, Maurice.
                                         
                                         Thank you for being here.
                                         
    
                                         Mo, appreciate you, baby. That's all
                                         
                                         our time, Stat. Yeah.
                                         
                                         As I said, it was a good discussion. Okay. There we go. That's all our time, Stat. Yeah. As I said, it was a good discussion.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         There we go.
                                         
                                         That's all the time we have for today.
                                         
                                         Thanks for watching.
                                         
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