IT IS WHAT IT IS - LEBRON JAMES & STEPH CURRY WERE ALMOST TEAMMATES & IF WE THE CLOWNS, YOU THE CIRCUS BOO!! | S3 EP.31

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! ***NEW MERCH** Shop the Come And Talk 2 Me Store....https://comeandtalk2me.com  Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $100 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson.

Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Florida, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog Fantasy app. They'll also match your first deposit up to $100, and you get a special pick when you sign up. I'm Treja Wilson, a.k Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mason Camp.

What's good, man? What's happening, man? What's the latest? Chillin', man. You heard they clapped back at us, Paul, at me. Who? I ain't gonna say her name. Her? Yeah. Did they say your name? Nah, she's not.

Oh, niggas ain't that stupid. What was the clap back about? How'd it go? Nah, they was just saying I'm a clown. What I'm saying is you gotta give me more details. How did this go? They didn't like my commentary to the situation. Who is they?

Is it more than one person? No, it's just one young lady. We're going to let her slide. Why? It's too early in the morning. I'm going to make it to lunch. I need more details on this. Let's move on. Are you sure?

Yeah, yeah. No, you know. I'm going to give you a pass this time. They said you're a clown and what else? I'm going to leave it alone. A female? Yeah. All right.

All right, keep it up. Little slot. Keep it up. Same nigga's name. I can't wait, really. Just give me the green light. Attitude with niggas. You sure?

Yeah. All right. All right. Just be positive. You thinking about this? Let me know before the show. Show me the video during commercial. Let me make my the show over. Show me the video during commercial and let me make my own decision about it.

He want to make his own decision, see? Yeah, I didn't see the video. No, let me see the video during commercial and then I'll make my own choice. You can be on. Let me do me after I see the video. This was on the blogs. Go ahead, stop. Was that on the blogs. Go ahead, Seth. Was that on the blog or something?

Yeah, it was a blog. Yeah, I want to see it. I want to make my own decision about it, honestly. That was a great idea to me. Okay, so we're actually going to start off the show with a little bit of sad news. So during the Kansas City Super Bowl celebration parade, at least 22 people were injured and one was killed when a gunman opened fire. Most of the victims were children between the ages of 6 to 15.

So first, obviously, our prayers go out to everyone involved, and we hope everyone is safe, and we are sorry to the families who did lose a loved one. But what do you guys have to say about the event that occurred? That's super sad. event that occurred. That's super sad. That's super, super sad to even think that somebody would show up to a celebration and want to steal that moment from a city that needed that celebration. And as well, to turn a celebration into a grieving process is really extra sad, you know. And to the person that probably did it, they're probably mentally ill, you know, to think like that.

Something is definitely wrong with them. And to those families, our prayers is with you here at It Is What It Is, and we pray that you guys find strength in this time. Mase couldn't have said it any better. Sad situation, definitely my prayers and our prayers go out to the family and all the victims. As you know, I think about a lot of stuff when I was younger that I probably wouldn't do now,

definitely wouldn't do now, but like Grant's Tomb, when it's Harlem Week, when it's massive, massive people. I've been in a bunch of riots, so to speak, not causing them, just like, you know what happens, I'm not relating what I'm talking about to this situation, but black people, when you hear gunshots, you running, you see people running, you running. I'm not necessarily even saying black people, but the reason gunshots, you running, you see people running, you running. I'm not necessarily even saying black people,

but the reason I'm bringing this up is because when she said a lot of the victims were children, how do you decipher whether I take my kid to this or not? You know, it's gonna be thousands, tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people at this parade. You wanna celebrate for your city, but at the same time, if not hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people at this parade, you want to celebrate for your city. But at the same time, if something happens, it's hard for a four-year-old or five-year-old to run with grownups and not get trampled or whatever the situation is.

So just trying to weigh out the scenario in my brain saying, damn, what would I do? Because I know my child, if there was a sports fan, would want to go to the celebration if we lived in that city and this is very very sad as far as the shooting is concerned i don't have a lot of information on it but anytime somebody gets killed period is sad but during the celebration is even worse so definitely my prayers got to the city, the family and everybody injured, and the deceased family. Agreed. So also kind of on the lines of just Pat Mahomes and the Chiefs. So earlier in the year, he had actually texted his wife, I decided we are going to win a Super Bowl.

So she posted the text on her Instagram page after the now that we know the Chiefs are the Super Bowl champions. How do you feel about him even sending that text and him calling it um I think that's what you have to do you have to really speak things that you want to happen before they happen I think that's what gears your mind up to even begin to like conceive the whole situation um it's it's like even people that are not great athletes like you know they call it trash talking people in the hood they do it all the time they talk themselves into playing better so he actually is a phenomenal athlete to be able to do that on a on an elite level is is supreme to even be able to do that but that's where it

starts it start with words and then words create the thoughts and then thoughts you know create the actions and the habits and and from there you end up being there yeah uh i agree with that you gotta speak things into his existence yeah um 100 but what i I will say is a bunch of bitches who got that on their text messages, all their husbands think that they going to the Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes just really went to the Super Bowl. It isn't like it's not mad bitches or mad party. Lot of girlfriends and wives like,

look, my husband told me we're going to the Super Bowl. Every one of your husbands told y'all y'all going to the Super Bowl when the season started. You know what I'm saying? Everybody though, oh, we got Aaron Rodgers, we going to the Super Bowl. Every one of y'all husbands told y'all, y'all going to the Super Bowl when the season started. You know what I'm saying? Everybody, oh, we got Aaron Rodgers. We going to the Super Bowl. First week, Super Bowl of Dreams is over. Everybody thinks they're going to the Super Bowl

when the season starts. So, I mean, for Patrick Mahomes to do it, it's a little more realistic when he texts it to you as opposed to the other fucking 1,500 or however many players in the NFL. But I'm pretty sure that his wife is not the only wife to get those we're going to the Super Bowl texts. So what I'll say about it is this.

I guess when you're patching my homes, this shit is believable. You know what I'm saying? Imagine how many girls are talking to their girlfriends tomorrow, girl here we go again, he said he going to the Super Bowl for the ninth year. He been to the playoffs once. And wish he had shown his text if they didn't win it. Of course not.

That's why not. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, the thing is, that's what I'm trying to say. We should, and I know they don't want to throw their niggas under the bus, but the bigger question is, let's show all the text messages of the niggas who didn't win the Super Bowl.

I would bet it's at least 350 of those texts or wives' testimony saying, they didn't say we was going. But I believe in them. I'm standing by him. We'll do it next year, baby. I'm your Super Bowl. I'm your trophy.

Don't worry about it. Okay. Well, switching gears to basketball, when LeBron James signed his two-year $99 million extension with the Lakers, it included a player option for the 2024 to 2025 season, meaning he could opt out of the deal and become an unrestricted free agent. Two teams that reached out were the Sixers and the Warriors. So my first question is, could you have seen LeBron on either team?

I'm going to let Cam go first on this one. See LeBron on any team really, you know, but I wouldn't like him on either one of the teams. Me personally, I wouldn't like it. As far as seeing him on the team, yeah. But to me, the reason, so this is why LeBron James is a commodity because you got to realize these teams want to make trades for LeBron possibly, and his contract is up.

So that means you only want LeBron James for possibly three months. You're willing to take that risk and say, fuck it, we'll trade X, Y, Z, and we'll get Le, Y, Z, and we'll get LeBron for three months because he got opt out his deal. So let's say the Warriors did trade for him, and then he gets there in February. They make the playoffs or don't make the playoffs.

He's out of there in the summer. He don't even have to stay. Same thing with the Sixers. You want him for a minute, and then when the contract comes around, if he doesn't want to stay, he doesn't want to stay. Listen, I like LeBron James. I think he's dope, but am I willing to risk my roster or my draft picks for three months and don't know if he's coming back? No.

But that's the credit to him being that great. The niggas is already willing to risk three months of players, draft picks, et cetera. But I heard about it. Chris Paul kind of nipped it under the bud, draft picks, et cetera. But I heard about it. Chris Paul kind of nipped it under the bud, said it wasn't happening. I've been hearing also Draymond Green is trying to recruit to get LeBron James and go to state.

Darryl Morey talked to Rob Palenka. Darryl Morey was inquiring with the Sixers, for those that don't know. That's the GM for the Sixers. Was inquiring about LeBron James and Rob Pelinka asked him, well, is Joel Embiid available? And the conversation ended right there. He said, forget it. So all these are scenarios that are woulda, coulda, shoulda.

If you want to sit there and imagine what woulda happened or coulda happened, that's up to you. But it's just all what you think it might have been. Joel Embiid is hurt. Klay Thompson's not coming off the bench, starting the game, not finishing the game. They've actually been winning since that's happened. They creeped back into the 10th spot.

So if the playoffs start today, they end up playing. Steve Kermit has figured something out with that. But as far as LeBron James going there, just because you got superstars on the team, it doesn't equal championship. I don't think it's a lot of chemistry between him and Golden State or him and the Sixers to make them win a championship right this second. It doesn't put either one of those teams against uh better than boston to me doesn't

make them better than phoenix at the moment the clippers at the moment the denver nuggets at the moment i wouldn't say minnesota or oklahoma city because even though they've been leading in the west majority of the year i want to see where that dictates them in the playoffs coming up they had a great regular season both of them teams so far what happens in the playoffs coming up. They had a great regular season, both of them teams, so far. What happens in the playoffs? So to me, it wouldn't make a big difference. So you don't think LeBron and Curry will beat the Suns? Not right now.

I don't think so. That's a good – that's a bold statement. Do you think they would? Huh? Do you think they would? Do you think they would? Huh? Do you think they would?

I think LeBron beats – LeBron sometimes end up doing well against the Suns, and we just saw what Curry did. So I was thinking them two together would be crazy. I mean, just to think about it. They could take – you talk about a team that could take their time, like each person getting a basket, this would be one of those teams if that was the case. I wouldn't want to see them on the Golden State, though. They would have to give up.

I mean, I would prefer to see them on Golden State than Philly because Philly would have to give up a core of that team as well as Golden State. But it seems like Golden State is unhappy with the pieces that they have right now. So it looked like they would probably be the better fit for that, even though we know it's not going to happen. We're just talking about it.

But I think it is balling down to where LeBron wants to play next year, and I think people have every right to start putting their bid in for him. That's what I would say. To what you were saying, I don't think that Steph Curry and LeBron could win against the Suns this year, but if it was to happen potentially next year, to me it's one of them situations,

if that was to happen, that they gotta gain the chemistry. Kinda how D. Wade and LeBron at first didn't know who was going to be this person. And it took them some time to figure out. And I don't know if this is a big enough time for them to beat the Suns. But I'm saying big enough times.

It's February, playoffs start in like two months. So that's what I meant. But if it was long term, i'm not mad at that comma just not in two or three months yeah so i know we're talking about a lot of hypotheticals so hypothetically speaking do you guys think lebron will remain a laker until the end of his career i think it's in everybody's best interest that leBron stays a Laker to the end of his career unless another team can put together some kind of deal where they could bring Bronny in. I think that's his ultimate goal.

I think that's where he retires. I think that's when he retires after he plays with his son. It seems like that's been a writing on the wall for a very, very long time. But I don't see LeBron wanting to play with his son in a different, in any city like the way people are making it seem. I don't think that happens any season. I think because of the way the Lakers are playing, it makes it even better to say if you want me to stay here,

then this is what needs to happen. But I think that will happen in the Lakers. Or, I mean, if he goes to New York, it would be better. But that's just my wish list. I was about to say the same thing. I think LeBron stays in New York, pardon me, in L.A., or if he goes somewhere, it would be New York. And the only reason I say that, even though Rich Paul shut that down, is just because all the other stuff that he has going on outside of basketball. Whether it's his production company, whether it's his sports agency, they need to be in

major markets to do the business that they're doing outside of basketball in the major cities that they're in. Can it happen in any city through business? Yeah. You got computers, technology. You could be anywhere and take care of your business. But, you know, when you have Maverick Carter and Rich Paul running up in offices taking care of business day to day, back and forth.

The major cities are where these businesses are at. And for me, I think that he goes, stays in L.A. Or, like Major just said, I was going to say the same thing, New York, but I don't see him going to New York unless it's something that we don't know about because Rich Paul shut that shit down too quick. Do you think it's based upon if his son's played there? Yeah, absolutely. As far as his son's situation,

we all know he had a terrible situation with the cardiac arrest. He's not playing a lot of minutes from what I seen early in the season with USC. not playing a lot of minutes from what I seen early in the season with USC. And we all know that if this situation didn't happen before the season, he would get a lot of minutes. He wasn't getting a lot of minutes. And I be telling this to niggas, they be like,

oh, Bronny ain't on that. Bronny not getting the minutes. I thought he was going to be nice to us. Yo, bro, the nigga just had a cardiac arrest on the court. They're monitoring this kid. Because you have to realize, Bronny could've went to any school he wanted to go to, not any outside of top recruits above him,

but you could've went to any school. So trust me, between his mother and LeBron, Bronny's mother that is, and LeBron, these conversations was had prior to him going to USC. Is he gonna get playing time? Is he gonna get minutes? Because he could have went to Ohio State. He rolled out the red carpet for him

and did everything else. But- That's what I was thinking, he should have went to Ohio State or Duke, one of those type of schools. Either way, right now, I think he's not playing a lot because of the situation. Him being

eligible for the draft? He is eligible, but does he need to go right now? You haven't really had a great college career yet because of your situation not getting the minutes, but when your father is LeBron James everything is possible uh when you say LeBron playing with his son it would be crazy because it's like you know I don't remember anybody else doing that outside of Ken Griffey and Ken Griffey Jr. playing at the same time on the same team but

it's just one of them situations for LeBron. Like, once we on the court together, I did what I had to do. All right, cool. It's over. We made this shit happen. And not saying just leave Bronny for dead. That's not the right term to use. But be like, all right, go work on it.

You're not going to get a lot of minutes. Play here, play there. Or when I say play here, play there, I'm just saying, like, if you get traded to Charlotte, don't worry about it. We did what we need to do. I don't know. Right now, because I don't have a big sample size of his college career, I don't know if he should go to the NBA right now.

That's why I was asking that, because it sets that up to be that way. And especially if people don't feel like you earned it, and they feel like you're it pause and they feel like you're only here because of your dad even though it's a it's a storybook ending for lebron it probably will be traumatic for his son because everywhere he goes people will be nepotism they just be yelling it everywhere they go like yo you yo, you know why you're here, right? Yeah. I mean, to be honest with you, I know we was teasing a nigga the other day and shit.

Talking about Austin Rivers. He was talking about how he had to deal with that. And to me, his high school career and college career was better than Bronny's. He had to deal with that. Not saying Doc Rivers was LeBron, but you had to hear, you're only here because of your father. Your father's here. And he was saying how that fucked with him for a while

because he had to prove to people that he really deserved to be there, which he did. Right. Okay. Shaquille O'Neal's number 32 jersey was retired by the Orlando Magic for their first ever jersey retiring what do you guys think about Shaq having his third jersey retired I mean that's pause that's that's that's Superman so he probably he's supposed to get his jersey retired I think it should have been a dual retiree.

I know Shaq is not going to like this, but I think Nick Anderson's jersey should have been retired right along with his. When you talk about Orlando, because they both had pretty good careers there. And the pillars of that franchise, as well as Penny was, but Penny got hurt probably quicker than they did. Shaq my man, but I don't think it should be Orlando. I think Orlando just looking for shit to grasp onto. Maybe Shaq made a donation or some shit.

They ain't win no championship. And don't get me wrong, people get they shit retired who didn't win no championship. So I dig it. I dig it. But to me, all the greatest shit that we remember Shaq for, and I'm not going to sit here and leave out him and Penny because that shit was amazing. But the championships and all the domination, I'm using the wrong words, because he was dominating from the jump.

But the winning didn't really start till after he left Orlando. You got to the championship and got swept. Dream shit, nigga. Dream used to still a little young, little baby at the time, went behind the ears, pause, Dream got crazy. They were the biggest damn man.

When you know Sinus could even do that. Yeah, yeah, like Dream. He was getting wowed. Yeah. Yeah. Like dream. He was getting wow. Dream dream was going crazy on shot and then dream went crazy on Patrick Ewing. Yeah, he did. It was back to back.

So to me, I'm not, I'm not knocking it. Shaq is well deserved of the statue. He sees he got, he got, uh, the retirement in Miami and LA Orlando. I don't know. the retirement in Miami and LA, Orlando. I don't know. Yeah, why don't people talk about Dream? Dream gave a lot of niggas problems, yo. Problems, yo.

Problems, yo. Them two years Mike was gone, it was his league, bro. And think about it, the championships that he won those two years were against the top centers. It was Patrick Ewing and Shaquille O'Neal. Not only that, they swept Orlando. Swept them niggas. Dream was a problem.

Yeah, get them niggas out of here. Yeah, yeah, swept them niggas. With Penny, everybody. Dana Scott, they team was crazy. Horace Grant tried to run over there. They had this. That's a fact. Yeah, they had a super team.

Yeah, so, yeah, Dream doesn't get a lot of credit he deserves. You know, a lot of people go see Dream in the offseason to learn moves or footwork and so forth, you know, even to where Kobe Bryant was going before to go see him. And I remember we talked about it earlier this season where Gilbert Arenas was trying to get mad at Dream because Dream charged Giannis 50,000. You remember that when he tried to charge Giannis,

or he did charge Giannis 50,000 for footwork. And listen, you know. Everybody went and worked with the Dream, came back with something worth that 50. I remember Kobe came back with that, that turnaround fade that nobody could stop. Dream shit was crazy. I just think me personally, I would definitely disagree with Gilbert because, and that's my nigga, but only reason I kind of would agree with Gilbert, I think that

a nigga 6'11 should go see Dream. Yeah. Even though you're bringing the ball up. You got to go see Dream. Yeah, I think he could never. Yeah, if you're a playing guy, you got to go see Sham. It's just stuff you got to do. I just think that the game's kind of changing a little bit

to where you don't really see niggas run to the box and be like, come on. Now, at that time, you had to go see Dream. It was a mandatory thing to see Dream. But, you know, you got big men facing the basket now. It isn't like they're backs to the basket. Working on their threes. Yeah, you can actually see.

If the point guard is being covered full court, you can give the ball to Joel Embiid, and he bring the ball up. Or you can give the ball to Giannisnis and he get the ball up the court. It was times where it was- You wouldn't dare do that. Patrick Gil would never- He's like, go get it, go get it. Yeah, yeah, you would never get Patrick Gil

when they bring the ball up the court. You know what I'm saying? Even Joker does it from time to time. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's different now. So, but far up to 50,000, I got mixed emotions. I think if you over 6'10", go see Dream. But I get Gil with his point, the game is kind of changing

and niggas ain't doing no moves no more. Yeah, you still need those moves in your arsenal though because when it comes down to in the defense of the 50, is that if you want to be a champion, this is where Dream would say, listen to me. If you want to just play around at a perimeter, go listen to me if you want to just play around at a perimeter go listen that's how he shut that down okay so after not making the all-star team Jamal Murray said I'd love to get that kind of recognition but I think when you went in the playoffs you went on the

biggest stages you play and show yourself on the biggest stages and you prove yourself against those so-called all-stars, then it's whatever. So do you guys think Jamal Murray should have been an all-star? When I think of the West Coast, not really. Not really. And Denver is my team. You know, I would say that. I don't think he deserved to be on that team.

When you think of, like, Steph and different people like that that have been putting up historical numbers this year, is Jamal Murray capable of being an all-star? Yes. Is he all-star caliber? Yes. But based upon those numbers and the votes, he wouldn't be on that team. It's just that simple.

I could even think about, what's his name, Fox? How do you say his first name? De'Aaron Fox. Yeah, he's the one that should be on that team as well. So you could look at both of them as would they have a player? They need to have a one-on-one game for the last spot like they do for the playoffs that would be crazy you think you're supposed to be in the team he thinks he's supposed to be on

the team let's play one-on-one um i'm looking at the all-star since they got um you know adam silver trying new stuff pause wait you think you belong Balls the way you think you belong on the team, who you think you belong on there before and then the last spot and they should have to play one on one. They get the spot. Yeah, good idea. Would you like me to read some of the names on looking at it now? Because Steph definitely going to be on that team. So if you're a point guard, you know, you don't got that spot.

What's the next spot? Looking at the roster right now, there's really no room for him. Yeah, and then you got what you call it. Every time somebody switches coasts, like James Harden switched coasts, that's somebody's spot. Damian Lillard goes to the east, that's somebody's spot. People got to pay attention to that as well. James Harden's not even on here, though.

He didn't even make it. It's Kawhi and Paul George here. I feel for Murray, though. I feel him. I'm looking at the roster, and I'm not mad at anybody on the roster because you got to realize Shea needs to be on the team. That's just the way it is. Yeah, exactly.

Shea and stuff need to be on the team. But at the same time. Both of these could be true. Yeah, because you know what it is it's like this it's like yo look and i don't know how to fix it i don't have a solution i don't know the answer uh when it comes to stuff stuff stuff curry in this particular situation 35 years old carrying the whole team on his back um having a sensational year, buzzer beaters, 30-point game after 30-point game after 30-point game, over 50% from the field, probably about

25% or 30% this season, I would not take him off this team. But what is the solution when they're in now 10th place? When the selection was being made, I think they was in 11th, 12th place. And you're the second best player on your team. And you're a defending champion. And you're in fourth place. and you're a defending champion, and you're in fourth place. What's the, you know, how does it work? You know, I don't, you know, it's only one person from the Nuggets going to the All-Star game.

We even got LeBron in AD, which we know LeBron needs to make it also in AD because he's the second best player, should be first on the Lakers, but they're in ninth place. So we got four players that's not in the playoffs, in the play-in, but four players that's not even in the playoffs right now, in the all-star game, so where we got teams such as the Nuggets that are guaranteed in the playoffs right this very second, and Sacramento that would be in the playoffs

right this very second, and Sacramento has no all-stars, and Denver has two. So what's the answer? What's the solution? Because we know popularity is also winning some of these decisions. But if I'm helping my team have a great record, we owe them

the championships, and I know season goes from season to season, but right now at this very moment, I got two teams that's in the playoffs versus four players that's not. I don't know the answer. This West Coast team is a perfect team. Like if I was looking at this team, to think of Shea.

How do you say it? Shea or Shea? Shea with Luka and then Kevin Durant, LeBron, and Joker. Even the people coming off the bench is crazy. I mean, you're looking at Anthony Edwards, who's having a phenomenal year. You're looking at Devin Booker, Stephen Curry. There's really nobody you could say will take this person off. There's absolutely not one person you can be like, okay,

let's swap Murray for this person. It's just couldn't do it with the GOAT. I don't know who. I think this is a great team put together. I'm not disagreeing with that. What I'm saying is the argument for me, if I'm a GM or coach or anybody fighting for my players, we are in fourth place. I know this team looks gorgeous, it looks good,

but you got four players on this team that can't help they team. That's just the argument, but looking at the roster, it does look sexy, it looks great. I'm just saying if I have to fight for my players. I do see somebody I will replace. I will replace Anthony Davis with Jamal Murray. That's the spot.

I'm not mad at that either. I'm definitely not mad at that. But, you know, you got four players. You shouldn't be an all-star if there was times this season people was begging you to play. That don't make sense, especially as a reserve. Now, the first couple of people is supposed to be because of votes, but the reserves is supposed to be work put in.

That's the coaches who make these decisions. Yeah. Who's the coach? Who's the coach? Whoever the coach is, you need to revisit this. No, the coaches around the league vote for the reserves. Yeah, they need to revisit this. All the coaches.

Because Murray is definitely, if you're a part of the champs, you definitely got to have two all-stars. I agree. If you're going to give three spots, they used to give three spots to the number one team, so the champs definitely get two players. We knew every year it was going to be these two players. It's going to be you and then somebody else if they lead the East.

There's no way you're supposed to have. But that's a great word you just said. Lead the East. These niggas ain't leading. These niggas ain't even in the playoffs if the playoffs started right now. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what makes it crazy that they got two players in there. Absolutely.

Niggas is out of the playoffs. LeBron and Steph too, for that matter. As good as they are, if the playoffs start today, they're not in the playoffs. Yeah, so if they only gave Steph one spot from Golden State, it should only be one spot from the Lakers. Well, before we go to break, just one more topic. So SoFi announces a partnership with the Jason Tatum Foundation, committing over $1 million over multiple years to aid low-income single-parent families in building generational wealth.

So what do you guys think about the new contribution by SoFi? I think, before we get into that, whatever happened with the player Snell and the autism fund? I don't know if he got picked up yeah he definitely did it okay it's like honestly after the whole tick tock things a lot of things went silent but i will get back to you and see if there's an update there all right yeah so back to this tatum tatum um foundation received a million dollars. Yeah. To do what again? To aid low-income single-parent families in building generational wealth. So they will help single-parent families with a down payment on a house. I like that.

I like that. How many houses can you get with a million dollars as a down payment? Probably a few of it. What, about $400,000 for the house, $300,000. How much is a house in low income? You ain't been in low income in a minute, honey. It's not $400,000. I'll tell you that.

God bless. You looked over like it felt you that. Not at all. Rob Markman, Jr.: God bless. Rob Markman, Jr.: You looked over like a fish. What's that going for these days? That's the fish you had. That ain't funny, man. That's not funny. For real, you know? Rob Markman, Jr.: Yeah. God's been good, you know?

Rob Markman, Jr.: You know, the way you looked over confused. I'm not laughing like that. You supposed to get two. Rob Markman, Jr.: Two. Two. Two. Two. Two. Yeah, you know? Yeah. God's been good, you know? You know, the way you looked over, I'm not laughing like that. You're supposed to get 20% of the house, right? 20%? If you got really good credit, probably 10%.

But that should help a lot of families. They got to give them some criteria, though. That's what I think. When you're giving houses to people in low-income housing, families they got to give them some criteria though that's what I think when you when you give in houses to people in low income housing you're probably gonna have to make some stipulations make your own HOAs that hey there can't be no gambling in this house no selling dope in this house you know you're gonna have to put some stipulations in place you can't just throw that money there because then we'll be having a

different talk about their hustling out of the Tatum homes, you know? Maybe. Right? You got to protect yourself out there. That's what the niggas said. They're hustling out of the Tatum projects. You know what I'm thinking? Is it true? Hey, I'm just trying. You know, you a wild nigga. Is it true?

Hey, I'm just trying to get the game they gave me. They said we don't give the young niggas the game, right? So you take a good situation where you lend finances from your foundation, and now you're in a Puerto Rico, you know? So you got to make sure that they understand that they could not be these kind of situations in these homes. As soon as you tell niggas don't do something,

they doing it. As soon as you be like, yo, don't do this, niggas be like, alright, we got you. But that's how you gotta protect his brand because he came into the situation and do a very great thing, and you don't want that very great thing to turn into a very bad thing.

Who's donating this money? SoFi to Jason Tatum's foundation. SoFi, exactly. The stadium. Yeah. So now SoFi and Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum makes $450,000 a game. This is two games of donations.

No disrespect. So you think he should have put the million up himself? I'm not saying he can't. He definitely can. You know what he about to get? He about to get some real chicken if they gave this nigga Brown, Jalen Brown, $325,000. He about to get some chicken. I'm not saying it's not a generous donation.

I think anything to low-income families is dope, especially in urban America, brown and black people, dope. The stadium, what's they making? And to add, SoFi is the new banking partner of the NBA. Yeah, look at that. He gave a million dollars. Yeah, niggas making that in like the first half of their day. I'm not, listen.

I know niggas will say, Kim, will you donate you a million dollars? I'm not so far. I'm not getting $500,000 a game. So I think it's a great gesture. I think it's dope. I don't care if they donated $20,000, $25,000. It's always good to give back and help out the less fortunate.

But y'all got it. Y'all got it, nigga. Y'all definitely got it. Yeah, a million ain't news. It's not news. A million would be news if one of us gave a million dollars, but a million is not news if you got that kind of money. T.I. just built some whole low-income shit, don't know. T.I. just built some whole low income shit, Dolo.

Yeah, man. T.I. just built the whole shit down there in Atlanta by himself. So far you can't do less than T.I. Yeah, T.I. just built the whole shit. We not going with that. Man, T.I. built shit, Dolo. Him and Tiny built the whole low income shit, Dolo. No bad, he ain't play a game one time, ever.

He don't own no stadium. Nigga gave back, D dolo so are you pocket watching oh me i'm not pocket watching she told me she gave me the information i'm like yo if you're telling me i'm gonna tell you my opinion yeah i just yeah i think i think if you're gonna if you're going to help the hood, I'm going to go on the record. If you're going to help the hood, you got to put some real serious money into it because that's one of the things that make other nationalities better because people invest more. So if you invest a million dollars that everybody got split up it probably i'm not using the best words but

we need to invest more in the black neighborhood so people can have better outcomes if better outcomes is really what you desire and not only that like where's that money niggas was promising during the pandemic like when niggas were scared when they when they thought they shit was going to get burned down yo wendy niggas about to burn a Wendy's there. No, no, no, we donating $20 million to the black community. What black community, where'd that money go? Who did you reach out to and who was in charge of it? It probably went to the gatekeepers.

That's why we need new gatekeepers. It probably went to the gatekeepers. Whoever it went to, it's no paper trail. And there's no proof that they sent it. I think it was so many niggas saying they don't donate because they didn't want

to have their organization feel racist or feel they didn't give back. And there was no person to watch this shit. Yeah. Yo, don't burn, hey, don't burn down

the Pepsi Corporation. We're going to donate $10 million to the black community. to the black community. Yeah, and it's crazy that they had $20 million on call when things got hot. Yeah. Who was those niggas? Look, they got everybody looking.

End of the day, right? And I'm just being honest with you. And all these people are cool with me. I'm just giving honest with you. And all these people are cool with me. I'm just giving you a scenario. Yeah. Eminem had this black woman and caught them bitches or whatever. And he apologized for it later.

He said he was wrong about it. But at the time when he did it, he's under Interscope, which is Jimmy Iovine, and Def Jam is under Universal, which they is both under Doug Morris. So for people who don't understand what I'm talking about, the parent company to Interscope and Def Jam was Universal and a guy named Doug Morris. Russell Simmons ran Def Jam, Jimmy

Alvigne ran Interscope. Eminem said something about disrespecting black females. He apologized. People were kind of up in the outroar. It was kind of pre-internet, so it wasn't crazy. Russell Simmons came over and said, no, he didn't mean it he's a good guy we had a conversation um that isn't even his character so in other words go get that to clear up this with the black people yeah to calm them the down so they don't go crazy and no disrespect to russ he was the token at the time to fix the M&M situation. So you got niggas when you answer your questions like, who's on standby? They always got a nigga.

Yo, what's that black nigga name in the cubicle? Tell him to go fix this shit. I know I never met the nigga. Tell him we love black people. Tell him we cool and we going to donate some money. What's his name, Tyrone? Yeah, Tyrone Jenkins. Tell him to go get in front of the camera fix the whole for black people real quick i think every company got that in these times

well just to add on to the jason tatum part i will say at least it's a start i mean black people are less likely to actually own homes and have that home ownership compared to other races and then just in general in the conversation of buying black, we should buy more into black businesses and black establishments more. We should because that's going to help us more generationally. Because if we keep buying from other people, we're never really going to make that mark. Just saying.

And it's Black History Month, so we should be doing it even more now. Says the lady with a Rolex on. Yeah, I didn't buy it. Shout out to y'all. I didn't buy it. I'm just saying, I'm team buy black. Gotta support our people. You mean well.

I always mean well. I know. That's why I said you mean well. I was just playing with you. I got on a Rolex too. Cam does too. I'm buying what I like. You're not buying black?

If it's dope or if it's, look man, I'll be honest with you. I buy black if I can. If I can buy black, I will. We got a history of doing shiesty shit. And people like us are changing that. Yeah. You know, you got to think about this. Before we did the deal with Mark Jackson, he thought we was going to rob him.

Yeah. Mark was like, yo, this is Mark Jackson's exact words. And Mark knows because he's my nigga. He's like, I'm just saying, you know, people of our own skin tone usually do it to our own skin tone. So what you really trying to do? I'm like, Mark, are you trying to ask me if I'm trying to get over or rob you? He said, what's in it for you? Yeah.

Because that's what niggas is used to niggas doing. We changing the narrative. So they like that. But at the end of the day, as far as buying black, look. My neighborhood is a grocery store. I was about to say that. You don't even buy black food. No, I'm saying that you got a grocery store.

You got the Habibis, the Arabs, you know. You got Arab every corner. There's one black grocery store. You go in there and get whatever, but it was a front for something else. I ain't going to say if there's people in the room who know what I'm talking about. You know, they got all this soda, chips. Right there on Lenox Ave, right around the corner. I'm like, this quiet ass grocery store nigga's standing there like this against the whole four or five.

You ever go get weed from Branson back in the days? You got to buy chips when you leave the store. Yo get a soda when you leave. You remember that beat? You gotta go buy chips. Yo you come by the weed, yo grab some chips too. Yo this ain't no real grocery store nigga. So yeah I want to buy black but it has to be quality.

You have to do great marketing, great presentation. Look, my homegirl, I'll be honest with you. I'm going to try to eat healthy, do the right thing. She said, Kim, and she's Spanish, which is my homegirl, Bebe. She says, Kim, I'm making green. Shout out to you, Bebe, because you know what I'm talking about. She said, I'm making green juice, you should come try it. I drink green juice in the morning.

I said, I'm going to give her drink a try, pause. So I get there and she gives me a mayonnaise jar with no label on it, like, yo, it's just green shit. And I'm like, yo, what is that? Oh no, I made it, it's Kale. And I said, nah, Bibi, that presentation is not correct. I'm not drinking that. You don't trust me?

Yeah, but it don't look delicious. You know what I'm saying? It has to be the right presentation. There's no label. I'm not talking about a real Hellman's jar with the label ripped off. Nah. And they might have been the best thing in the world. How can you ask for me?

But it's not good presentation. She changed it up and got together. You gave her advice so she was able to fix it. Presentation is important. Okay, did you have a thought? Yeah, nigga tried, somebody tried to bring me some sea moss. They said, sea moss is what you need, Mase. And then they brought me the sea moss,

the same thing in a Coca-Cola case. Yeah, I'm choice being a Coca-Cola case. Yeah. I'm choice being a little drunk. Somebody bought me sea moss in a Ziploc. Why would you have sea moss in a Coca-Cola bottle? This is crazy. Yeah. Good point.

All right, y'all, we're gonna go to break and when we return, we will talk about a feud between a couple football players. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. you feeling like an option maybe i'm my own problem babe she's tired of hearing i don't know what's happening me won't fall oh oh dealing with this thing called trust but she really thinking about she wanna be free welcome back now let's get into our Underdog Fantasy Picks of the Day. Tonight, the Timberwolves will play Portland. Underdog Fantasy has Anthony Edwards at 26.5 points.

Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? I'm going higher. High. I'm going higher. Okay. Rudy Gobert is at 12.5 rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower, Kim? How many?

12.5. Lower. Lower. Lower. Do you have them higher or lower? Kim? How many? 12.5. Lower. Lower. Yeah, we're not getting crazy up here now. Okay, and DeAndre Ayton is at four first quarter points. Do you have them higher or lower, Mace? Lower. Lower.

Okay, download the Underdog Fantasy app, and you can make your picks too. So the Jets' Sauce Gardner got into it with 49ers Tavarius Ward so sauce Gardner had tweeted I told y'all the Niners might look better on paper but the Chiefs always find a way Tavarius then responded boy yo ass ain't never sniffed the playoffs you watching from the couch worry about the sorry ass Jets. Everybody got something to say about the team in the Super Bowl. Your opinion doesn't need to be heard, kid. Thoughts on his response? Hmm.

It sounded right to me. Like, yo, nigga. Look, I know second place is not first place. But you get to experience the Super Bowl. At least you get to go. I'm not a big fan of second place. But the Jets? Chill, bro.

You got to chill. Until forever notice. Like, make the playoffs and then at least have something to say about something. I talk about it all the time. If you got a phone, you got an opinion. And that's just what you have to deal with in this society and this generation and what we're living in. Everybody can give you an opinion.

I'm a victim of this myself. You sit there and you go on Instagram or Twitter or TikTok or Snapchat or whatever app you're on. And I'm guilty of this. I'll have 5,000 comments on a post. I'm scrolling through them. You know, somebody likes it. I like a comment.

Somebody says, like a comment. Somebody says. And then somebody says some rude shit, and I reply to them and get smart back with them. And I'm like, damn, this thing got me caught up arguing with him when I could have responded to the 300 people who said something nice before them. And I know this is to athletes. I'm just saying in general.

I see it all the time. Whether it's not just me, other celebrities too. There'll be a million nice comments. Somebody say something slick. Now you're in a confrontation with them instead of just saying, yo, thank you guys for supporting me. I appreciate the love. You could have did that a hundred times, but the nigga who say the negative shit, you get caught right up in there and ready to fight with them instead of giving some love to somebody who said something good. I don't know exactly

his Twitter feed or Instagram or whatever that was on, but that's us as black people. or Instagram or whatever that was on. But that's us as black people. As soon as you say something slick, we're going to say something slick back. And I'm pretty sure it was a bunch of comments to him saying congratulations on going to the Super Bowl. Don't worry about it. Maybe next year you'll get it.

You had a great season, et cetera, et cetera. Nope. We got to answer this nigga who said that slick shit before we say something to anybody else. Who is he talking to? Yeah, exactly. Does that make him a prisoner

of the moment, though? That's what I was thinking. I just say, us as black people, like, you know, you do a good job ignoring everybody. But even me,

sometimes I'll erase the kind of shit I'm about to write and be like i ain't even gonna respond to this i'm just ignore it because i just ignored 25 good comments to give this negative energy some some of my attention and i could have gave these 25 people some love for showing me love but nope cam doesn't work like that. Cam got to say something dumb back. Cam got to get into a whole argument for four or five paragraphs with niggas. And all my fans who do show love, I'm working on that.

I'm working on me. And I'm going to get to y'all and start ignoring and just blocking people who say negative things instead of giving my time and energy. So then I should ignore what she said to me. You talking about the girl from earlier? Yeah. Well, think about it. Since we talking about it, I looked at it during the commercial break.

Yeah. And she said that you're a clown for saying what you said. But I don't understand somebody who's in the circus that is the clown. Call somebody a clown. You're dead in the circus, boo. You're in the circus. You're in every housewife shit. You don't own it.

If you ain't Shawnee in them, you in the circus. You're in Real Housewives of this, Real Housewives of that. You fucking with niggas' nephews. Because really, what's the nigga, Jordan, son? Yeah, Marcus. That's Scotty Nephew. Come on, man. You know what I'm saying? What up, Neph? Yeah, Marcus. That's Scotty Nephew. Come on, man. You know what I'm saying?

What up, Neph? Yeah, that's real Neph, though. Yeah. You watch this kid grow up. You fucking with a nigga Nephew. This is Woody Allen-ish. Yeah, this is nasty. And it's real nasty.

Yeah, it's Woody Allen. You watch this young man grow up, and then you say, listen, I'm going to lay on him because I see he's kind of not potential. Yeah not just potential he ain't his father I can get him. I can get him he don't have his father traits. But look there's no reason to call Mesa clown

and you in the circus boo. Like we said earlier not earlier yesterday just don't be the next sucker because she's out there. Mesa made a good point you're going to be 50 this year you're not Lori Harvey you don't be the next sucker because she's out there mace made a good point you're gonna be 50 this year you're not laurie harvey you don't have time you need to find the next sucker and i hope nobody's available you're the fucking clam you look stupid everybody in the comments is on mace i really don't you know what's crazy about it is that we're in an era where she thinks she doesn't look stupid.

You know what I'm saying? She doesn't really even realize that she looks stupid. So, therefore, she's like, Mase looks stupid. Not knowing that you really look dumb, my nigga. You look stupid. There's really no more to say because, to me personally. Yeah, but we said this. We said this earlier in the season. We're in a

time where where people people that's doing the craziest stuff they just don't like people to tell them the truth about nothing oh absolutely you tell them the truth you hating yeah absolutely but this isn't you know what you know what i always had a problem with and i don't mind because when you know some people look good and i'm not talking about her and if you can figure out a way to make your money and so on and so forth cool but you really have no talent outside of gassing if you want to consider that yeah i'm not to say if you want to consider that talent more power to you but a lot of females are talentless at making money because they figured out, I'll get a BBL.

I'll get my lips done. I'll get a tummy tuck. I'll lift my cheek up. Yeah. Get my ears shrunk. Move my nose over a little bit. Yank a rib out. Take a rib out. Yeah, exactly.

Move your belly button. Belly buttons is almost to people's chest after them surgeries. I seen a girl belly button on her sternum. Up here. This is crazy. I'm dead ass. I seen a girl belly button up here. I said, yo, they moving belly

buttons? That shit is wild. I said, yo, they moving belly buttons? That shit is wild. But, you know, shout out to the talentless, man. That's all I can say is shout out to the talentless, man. There's really nothing else to say because people like this, Mace, they have nothing else to do now. They watching you or watching us and saying oh he's a clown.

Bitch you got makeup on and big shoes red shoes right now and don't know. And don't know my nigga. Sad man. And I feel more bad. No disrespect Scotty Jr. and Scotty Sr.

Because I feel more sorry for y'all than anybody else. So I don't want you to feel like I'm talking about your baby moms or your mother because we have mad respect for you guys. This sounds like it should be an intervention at home. And I think that may have already tried to happen. But that's one of them. You can't tell me what to do. You're not giving me, listen,

you're not supporting me. Shut up, bitch. Yo, we've been doing, we've been taking care of you forever. Now you plotting on my teammate's son and then they ain't go right and niggas is noticing they ain't go right

and now you got an attitude. When you want to be in the public, it's all great when you're in the public and shit going right. Then when niggas give their opinion, you mad at the people giving your opinion. There's not really much to talk about outside of that. Keep watching.

It's crazy because I feel like that was like a nicer response from you both. No, because you know why? It's where you really going with this? There's nothing we can really say because outside of fucking niggas, what do we know you for we can really say because outside of niggas what do we know you for i really don't know you can sit there and say the real housewives of this because you're somebody to be on that show so i i don't really know what to say about it's like

you know what somebody be like yo she's on the show because she's a wife, not because she's having sex with niggas. Whose wife is she? Oh. Exactly. Exactly. Well. Allegedly, allegedly. Whose wife is she? She's not married to nobody.

She's not. Yeah. She ain't married to nobody. She is not. Yeah. She ain't married to nobody. Them bitches be on the show because this ain't a real housewife. That don't mean they married. It's just the name of the show. They don't be married.

They get the most entertaining. You get exes and sometimes you get formal. Sometimes it be the real housewives and basketball wives and then be a football nigga wife. Just the name of the show. They just throwing niggas in there sometime

who they think can sell the programming. Okay, and then before we wrap on Twitter, Skip Bayless asked, what if a Black Star receiver had gone at a Super Bowl coach the way Travis Kelsey did? So one, how do you guys feel about Skip asking the question, and then do you guys

think it would have been different? What way to come back pause skip great way i think i think i could think of two athletes that would have been kicked out of the league if terrell owens did that shout out to to wherever you are recovering if to would have bumped a coach like that, he'd be out of the league. And I agree with A.B. If A.B. would have bumped into the coach back in Tampa, he definitely would have been out of the league. He'd have been taking his jersey off earlier than usual. Yeah, I agree with that.

Totally. Those are definitely two players. There's probably a handful more. Yeah, Ocho Cinco. Yeah, a bunch of people would have been a big deal. But what I will say is this. When Skip needs to try and make a comeback for anything, he always goes to race.

It's a reverse race, isn't it? Yeah, he always try to break race into everything. Like, yo, niggas ain't say my name in a minute. Let me say some shit you got to do at race so I can get bought up again. Skip said I know what to do. I forgot Skip was on TV, man. Yeah, B-Small would have bumped the nigga. He'd be out the league.

Yeah, man. The way you started, yeah, great way to make a comeback, Skip. Pull out the racism card. That'll do it. Act like I'm with the niggas. Yeah. Let's go. Exactly. Exactly. Well, that'll doas. Let's go. Exactly.

Exactly. Well, that'll do it. That's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.