IT IS WHAT IT IS - MA$E AND CAM'RON HATED NBA ALL STAR WEEKEND! | S6 EP23

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

Ma$e & Cam’ron are back with another one!! On this episode, filing in for Stat Baby is Trysta Krick to talk about NBA All Star weekend, what changes would they make to the event & can the NBA take the idea from the women's Unrivaled league and have the All Stars play 1v1 for the bread!? Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Yo right after it is good it is tune in for Talk we're at. I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches. Welcome, man. I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga. Black Benz's and white Vigga's. Now I'm out here and I'm looking for more chandeliers and light fixtures. Now, I don't like niggas. What's wrong with me? I'm a hype nigga, but there's 44.

Turn the mic to Jordan. I'm looking, say, take flight, nigga. Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York,

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What's up? What's up? Trist, you back? What's up, man? Oh, man. What's good? I am so happy to be here, out of the rain and good weather. Yo, we missed you, man.

I missed you guys. That's what's up, man. We had to take care of a few things. Took a little longer than we thought. But you know you was coming back in the fall, man. You got some bars right now? Not right this second. Ah, yeah. I'll try to put her on the spot, man.

Yeah. See if she nice like that. What nationality are you? Oh, I am. How old you want to ask you that? I'm Eastern European, Lithuanian, Polish, little Irish, some other Anian, something like that. Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from?

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Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? Fuck with the niggas, man. She's one of my niggas. That's why I'm so my nigga. You know how I realized murder and nigga? And not just, like, my homegirl in Utah,

and Nick, speaking of Nick, and they feel good when we say you my nigga. Nick said that, yo, he's making you feel good, man. We can't really say anything back, but we're just like... It's acceptance. You're right. You say that, man. I feel accepted, man. Yeah.

How was your drive-in? It was good? Yeah, man. They pulled me over they I told him abogado Abogado that's an ice cream drink. No, I you say I you say lawyer in Spanish You got it. Yeah, I told him abogado man Abogado he said oh, let him go. Yeah, man. You know what it is when you got them paper cars. They just look fast Yeah, yeah, what kind of car were, when you got them type of cars, they just look fast. Yeah. What kind of car were you driving?

I can't say it on the air. It was something like exotic, though. The pocket watchers. Subaru. Subaru. Subaru. Yeah. Those Subarus go fast.

There's a lot of Subarus in Portland. I tell you what, they go from zero to 60 fast. Yeah. Got to watch the pocket watchers, you know? You ever have that happen to you, Cam? Just people pulling you over for no reason? Yeah, yeah. See, Mason's more as in, right now I'm talking about like,

where in like a place where you're supposed to have that car? Sometimes I'm in places where them type of cars are supposed to be there and they get jealous. And yeah, Officer Rizzo, I don't know if y'all, if he's still working or not, but Officer Rizzo is still fuck you, nigga. Pulling me over, taking my car, nigga, charge me. I had a steak knife, I forget if it's Peter Rougas,

where the fuck was Peter Lougas part of me, nigga. Got me thinking about Rougarelle, Peter Lougas. I don't remember, few of those restaurants give you real steak knives to come and take home. I had a real steak knife, nigga, sell a weapon. I just, I feel like, yo, niggas be reaching, bro. Like yeah, that happened. And I recently in Knock on Wood,

cause I remember somebody at my ID, they talking about, they like me on one time for arson. I said, come on, I'm out here committin' arson. It's crazy in Queens. What were you burning? What did they think you were burning? I'm just on fire. Just on fire, just you.

I'm just running niggas on fire. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what facility they thought I was talking about, but I have no idea. New York cops in New York are pretty dirty, man. Or they used to be. I haven't dealt with them in a while. Lately in New York, I get a driver. That's the way.

Yeah, man. Stay out that way. We got to talk about All-Star Weekend for context. So Adam Silver, I think it was two off seasons ago, said we got to get back to basketball. Like, all these gimmicks, we have to get back to the type of games that we want to see. So we got Kevin Hart roasting guys during the All-Star game.

We had Chris Paul and Wemby disqualified from the Skills Challenge. We had a full funeral for theby disqualified from the skills challenge. We had a full funeral for the TNT guys in the middle of the All-Star game. We had a G-leaguer, three-time dunk champion, getting everybody excited. Mr. Beast had like a giveaway in the middle of it. It was a lot of gimmicks. It was a lot of bells and whistles. 35 minutes of basketball on Sunday

for a three hour broadcast. So overall Mace, what did you think of All-Star Weekend? Oh man. All-Star Weekend, when I think of All-Star Weekend, I think it was just like, it was just a horrible show. It just looked like they were reaching. When you're naturally cool, you can tell when somebody's reaching.

And that's what it looked like. Everything that they did looked like they were trying to find a solution to something they lost. And they got to go back to where they lost it. They got to go right back to just East versus West. And stop letting people play that's not supposed to be playing. to where they lost it. They gotta go right back to just East versus West. And stop letting people play that's not supposed to be playing.

I remember a time when people, you know, wanted to play in the game, people, you know, desired to make All-Star. And now it's like, I think they're just getting paid too much and it's just Adam Silver to me, no disrespect to Adam Silver, but it feels like just when you got a substitute teacher, and a substitute teacher gotta do everything

to get the kids to go along with what's going on, because they would not be doing this with David Stern. None of this would be happening with David Stern. I hate to be sounding like a person that's in the past, but he got to go talk to some of the forefathers of basketball because they're trying everything and they're going to come up with more gimmicks. But it really just goes back to just having all stars

on the floor, really, really all stars. And I just think it was just all over the place. I mean, it's gonna be a cookie drive before you know it. They're gonna be selling candy on the court. It's just becoming ridiculous. What'd you think, Kim? Players brought this on theyself, my personal opinion. It came to this because nobody has been performing

during All-Star Weekend. And I'm not knocking down Adam Silver. I didn't like it, I'm not disagreeing with Mase, I didn't like it a little bit, but it's like what else can we do to get these niggas to play? It isn't like he just came up with this format because everything was going great.

Like, wow, everything's going great, let's just come up with this format because everything was going great. Like, wow, everything's going great. Let's just come up with a format to 40 and see who wins. It's because players are not playing, and there's so many different layers to what happened all weekend. I'll start with Sunday, and I watched a lot of what Draymond Green was saying also when he was up there with the TNT cast,

and I loved a lot of his takes that he had on Sunday. One of his takes was actually saying that you have an all-star game with people who didn't make the all-star team. When you got the skills, the younger, the sophomores and rookies are part of the actual all-star game, then how am I working the first half of the season to make the all-star game, and you got people who didn't make the all-star game, then how am I working the first half of the season to make the all-star game,

and you got people who didn't make the all-star game in the all-star game. So that was one, but at the same time, to me, that's why I'm conflicted about it, because that's what made them play, actually. They didn't wanna lose to the rising stars. You sit there, you see James Harden playing defense. You see Kyrie picking up niggas 94 feet.

You see niggas actually playing difference because that would have been completely embarrassing if they lost to the rising stars. So it did get niggas to play a little more, but at the end of the day, it's like Tristan said, 35 minutes for three hours. Whenever the game, whenever I thought that they were getting momentum, Just like Trish just said, 35 minutes for three hours. Whenever the game, whenever I thought

that they were getting momentum, something happened. Oh, let's shoot it from half court with Damian Lillard to give somebody a charity $100,000. Not saying that the charity didn't deserve it, but you do this in between games, which takes 10 minutes. Then you get commercials and everything else involved. So the players are played, they're ready to play again, but now you have another 15, 20 minute break.

Then like Trish also said, you're in the rhythm, you're playing again. Then you, of course, everything I'm saying should have happened. I just didn't think it happened at appropriate times. You're giving the TNT guys, Kenny, Shaq, Chuck, Ernie their flowers in the middle of the game. So after that, I seen that, and I seen the momentum for like slack off.

Cause I was like, damn, they slow, they sluggish now, they're not warmed up. They were doing pretty okay, because they were in a rhythm, but then you're taking them out of rhythm for 15, 20 minutes at a time. I don't like the format, but I will say that it seemed like it did get players to play harder

than they've been playing previously. Then we look at the next thing. Each player that wins gets $125,000. Some of these players are making $400,000 a game. This is not real money to them. It's not. So you're not gonna incentivize them by the money because they're making that first quarter of a regular game when they go out and play a game. That's first

and foremost. Secondly, we have to figure out what's going to make them play. I've been saying this for two, three years that we need to have, and it's not just Europe at this point. This is the new format. If you really, really wanna see the players play. The format, I'm not mad at this 14 format and I'm not mad if you go back to East, West or whatever. But obviously that hasn't been working for a long time. If you really wanna, if you really, really wanna see players play,

what you do is you get two American All-Star teams. You say seven people on each team from America, or eight. And then you get a Canadian team. And then you get a European team. It's 63 players in the NBA from Europe. It's 21 players or 23 players in the NBA from Canada. You think that they don't want to bust the United States as? You don't think that they would want to play? You don't think the United States would play? I know Europe and Canada would definitely play super duper hard. And the only reason

that I think that this format hasn't happened yet is because Adam Silver is trying to protect the NBA as far as, not saying NBA because we got players from all around the world, but trying to protect America to still think that we have a chokehold on basketball, which I don't think we have a chokehold anymore. So I think that's the only reason that this format has not gone on yet, because it makes no sense for it not to go on.

You wanna see competition? You think them Europe niggas ain't coming up bust American niggas ass? You think the Canadians are not gonna have a point to prove? Do it like that. You do the countries. I know that Canada's part of North America, but the end of the day, those are the two,

even though Europe's a continent, you have Europe and you have Canada, and you put two American teams against Canada and Europe. And don't get me wrong, if it's somebody who's well-deserving of it from Australia or anywhere else that needs to be a part of it, we'll figure it out. But put the United States up against niggas

and then see who really plays, and I bet you it'll be some really, really stiff pause competition. We actually seen LeBron step, say he's not playing 38 seconds before the game started. The niggas took LeBron, said, I mean, I'm good, but if you look last week or the week before last, they asked him about the new format, and he said he didn't like it.

He was totally disgusted with it. He's not with it. I mean, he said, I'm not with it. I don't like it a little bit. And just mysteriously, uh, 30, I'm exaggerating with the seconds, but an hour or two before the game, he says he's not playing. Now, he's LeBron. I dig it.

He said, I don't like the format. I'm gonna show up. I'm gonna be here. Whatever. Only thing I disagree with LeBron is that you should've gave them more time for somebody to fill the roster spot. Because a lot of people to fill the roster spot. Because a lot of people would love that roster spot.

Greek Freak let people know in advance. I forget who was hurt because Kyrie Irvin wasn't supposed to be in the All-Star game. Trey Young and Kyrie Irvin actually filled in for the Greek Freak and Anthony Davis actually now that I'm thinking about it. But he could have gave somebody else that slack because he knew he wasn't going to play last week when he said he ain't like the format. And I dig it, he's LeBron,

but at least let somebody else get that spot. Overall, the weekend, I wasn't impressed. I'm not happy about it. Are we sitting there saying, yeah, we got more competition? We did, but by how much? 7%, 8%, it wasn't a high percentage on competition. So they do need to figure it out

and figure out what's gonna be better. But I'm totally disgusted with the whole weekend. I thought it was... I have to be honest with you, I didn't even watch the skills shit. Uh, I caught the nigga in the dunk contest. And that's another thing, he brought dunk contest. We're at the point where we're getting a nigga who played five total NBA games,

winning three dunk contests. He won three dunk contests, but only played five NBA games. What are we doing? What are we doing here? What the fuck are we doing? So he's almost won as many dunk contests as games he played in the NBA. It's... it's... it's wow. It's actually... it's actually pretty wow. You know, you got people like John Morant saying,

oh, after seeing Mac, I want to join. Y'all said if you do it, I'll do it. They all say this right after the dunk contest. And then when this time comes again next year, they all, they all forget that they said it. I don't know. I don't know what to do to fix it. And I get it that people are blaming Adam Silver, but Adam Silver just didn't come up with this

like shit was already working. He's just trying to figure out shit to try and get NBA players to play against each other during this All-Star weekend, and he's putting out options, and the only option is, is to get these countries and continents against America if you want to see some real competition, my opinion. Yeah, and they have a bunch of other like proposed

solutions that have come out since the All-Star weekend, which we can talk about later on in the show. I did think it was weird that we have guys like Victor Wemba Nyama and he got to play with nine minutes. That's it, right? He played in the first game, lost against, I think Kenny's team or whatever, whoever he was playing against,

and we never saw him again, right? And I don't think, and this kind of begs the question too, you have Kevin Hart treating the All-Star game like the Tom Brady roast. You're literally heckling Shea Gilder's Alexander, and he's like, yo, fuck you. I don't want you telling me how wack I am in the middle of this game. I'm the MVP. I've seen that. And he's over here yo, fuck you. I don't want you telling me how whack I am in the middle of this game. I'm the MVP.

I've seen that. And he's over here, like, taking photos, taking people's heads off in the, like, photo shoot. It just didn't feel serious. Like, the things that felt silly to me, like, for example, the skills challenge where you have Wemby and Chris Paul, literally cheating, trying to figure out the rules,

trying to figure out, okay, how fast can we complete this? And then they get disqualified. That's a silly thing. That's like a low key, hilarious thing. But they're treating that like it's a state secret. You can't interview them after the game. You can't figure out, hey, what was your strategy? Who came up with this idea?

No, no, no, shut that down. But the stuff that's supposed to be serious, the game, we've got Kevin Hart heckling guys. We've got, you know, guys giving fishing poles to Kenny and all of them in the middle of it. So, yeah, it's really sad as well. And I kind of wanted to get, Mace, your thoughts on the dunk contest, because that's kind of like

a separate thing as well. I know Cam doesn't think it's going to happen, but do you think... Okay, let's just say hypothetically, Ja, Yannis, Aunt Edwards participate in the dunk contest, and we get it back to where it was in, say, the 90s, early 2000s. Does that reinvigorate it for you?

Does that give it juice? Really, if you add Ja and you add Anthony Edwards, I think you have a better dunk contest. But at this point, I don't know if there's any other dunks that somebody could do. People really gotta get really creative because at this point, all the dunks have been done before. It's not like people are coming up with new ideas. They're coming up with the same things,

but I think it'll take somebody like Ja or somebody like Ant-Man to really push the envelope in that way to have that kind of explosive athleticism with a creative mind, you know? But even when we was talking about the All-Star Game, I think if they give the money to baby moms, if the money have to go to baby moms, you All-Star game. I think if they give the money to baby moms, if the money have to go to baby moms,

you get a better game. I forgot about that. That's what I really wanted to say. You talk about lighting a fire under the players? I don't ask you for nothing all year. Go win this game. That'll really get them going. What about if they did, what about if they did, I like your format, but what if they did winner take all?

The losers don't get nothing. The losers don't get nothing. Oh, I thought you said, I thought, oh, the, oh, the, oh, okay, my bad. I thought it was the losers get, I thought they get something too. Yeah, but if you give the money to the baby mothers, that changes everything. That changes the whole dynamic. I thought it was the winners get like 125 and the losers get 75.

That's how it is in the Pro Bowl, right? Right. What if it's a baby mama you don't like? Like why would you compete hard for her? But it's people that's gonna be playing for theirs though. Okay. If you have eight babies moms. Just imagine you don't have to pay no child support.

If this money right here could take care of that, you're going to get it out of the way for the whole year. For the whole year. What about, I know Cam talked about the LeBron thing. LeBron ended up sort of backing out, like he said, 32 seconds before the game. Aunt Edwards somehow mysteriously didn't play in the game. We don't know why. He's fine.

He's gonna play for the Timberwolves as soon as the All-Star break comes to an end. What did you think about that? Was that weird to you that LeBron was in street clothes getting announced as an All-Star? Should he have backed out earlier, or what did you think? At this point, my take is that LeBron is bigger than the game. He's bigger than LeBron and Pauls.

He's bigger than the program. And I don't care what nobody says. He pulls out all the stops. He go to teams that he want to go to. If he don't want to play that day, if he don't want you on the team, if you're the first draft pick, listen, it doesn't matter you're the first pick.

We'll send you to Liberia if I like. You know, pause it. That's just what it means to be, you know, king, I guess, of the NBA. But he definitely earned that status. But I would have liked to see him say, you know, earlier that I'm not playing. So who would have played in this place?

It was probably somebody that really wanted to suit up. Probably like a LaMelo. LaMelo ball. He didn't want to play for sure. We would have wanted to see that. Yeah. And I think that's the thing I think about the All-Star game was we don't really even know what it's for anymore. Is it to give accolades to the best players in the NBA?

Is it the most entertaining players? Because unethical basketball is what is awesome for all-star games, right? The Cam Thomas's, the Trey Youngs, the Lamellos. I think that's what messed the all-star game up when it became just about the votes, right? And somebody who's not that good, but they're from Liberia,

got everybody from Liberia voting for them, put them in the All-Star game. It used to be, you know, the best players, and that's when you get the best game. But I don't think the NBA today is producing the players that love the game. I think that's the real root of the problem. You're not playing against players that love the game.

You're playing against highly skilled players, but they don't have that inner workings that make them want to be better than the next player. Even, I mean, I had to go back in the days, but there was a different pedigree of athlete that even if I didn't have the talent you had at the heart or the will to want to compete, I don't see the will to wanna compete. Like, it's just if I make a certain amount of money, I'm good. And that's the attitude all over the place.

You think players in this era don't love the game? No, not in America. Yeah. I just think, I think that... See, y'all think about this, right? It's the salary that they're getting. And... Seriously, like, the salary is crazy.

And I always bring this, and I could use a million examples, but I always bring this Michael Jordan stat up that he made $111 million throughout his career, and the majority of that was on the last three years of his contract, because he's doing one-off deals with the Bulls. You got to think, during these dunk contests in the 80s and 90s,

they think Spider-Man may need that $50,000? They wanted that extra $25,000, extra 25, 50, whatever it was. They needed that. They don't need the money that they're offering these players right now. Like, they don't need it. So it's not incentivized to go get it. A lot of things are money incentivized

and these niggas are getting shitload of money to where they like, it doesn't make sense for me to do it. So Mase is right, it's not about the love. It's about, I got paid and then, what I'm gonna do with a buck 25, I'm gonna make that before halftime, my next game. Then the next thing is, you see them playing gingerly, we was talking about this, me and B's on the house earlier,

to where the last six, seven years, you see them playing likely. We was talking about this, me and Beez on the house earlier, to where the last six, seven years, you see them playing like it's no defense, it's nothing. But then you don't want to risk injury either. You know, you don't want to sit there and get hurt in the All-Star, and then you don't be able to play the second half of the season. Then niggas will be like,

oh, why is he playing? You can't win out here. You know what I'm saying? You can't win. They'll be like, oh, he shouldn't have been doing this. He shouldn't have been doing that. They didn't care about that. When you go sit there and watch Kobe Bryant play an all-star game, it took no minutes off.

Defense or offense, it didn't matter. But I think a lot of things at that era was money incentivized because everybody needed that little extra change to where they don't need it anymore. If you're sitting there talking about a dunk contest, right? And I know that a lot of things are based on creativity and everything else. And I'm not saying this is a lot of money for these players.

But you sit there and say, look, we'll give $2 million to the dunk contest winner, and we want... We want Anthony Edwards, John Morant, and Zion. I don't care about the B League, the G League. That's the goal. Yeah, and you sit there and say... Because I'm not saying two millions a lot. I mean, a little bit, but to them it probably is.

You niggas is getting $100 million, $200 million, sneaker deals. Forget the NBA deals. They're getting nine-digit sneaker deals. But at least they get some incentive. Because like Mase was saying, you can sit there, even if it ain't the baby, you're like, yo, mom, here, take the dunk contest money. Or your little brother, or your cousin, or your father,

or whoever. Somebody else in your family could use it. You understand? So I think those are the names that you want to hear when you hear something like a dunk contest. And you got to raise that price. The price is not going to get them to do it. You mentioned, Cam, just like players saying,

oh, I don't really want to get injured for the All-Star game. And I think that's a super valid point because you look at LeBron and you say, well, they're in the fifth seed right now. They're half a game out of the fourth seed. And they just acquired Luka, one of the most blockbuster, shocking trades we've ever seen, probably in the history of the game.

This might be their only tiny window. So, when you think about the context, and I guess I'll ask you first, Mace, if you think about the context of the Lakers as a whole, does it make more sense knowing where the Lakers are at and the trade they just made and maybe the window that LeBron has left in his career that he would sit out,

even if considering he's played in 21 All-Star games before? Yeah. I think the All-Star game helps players. I think it rejuvenates players because there's a certain energy that you take from these type of games into the second half of the season. Let's say there's somebody that wasn't playing well in the first half of the season. Let's say they turn up in the All-Star weekend.

They come back to their team believing that they should should compete like that for the rest of the season. And that ends up going into the All-Star, after the All-Star weekend, into the second half of the season, as well as the playoffs. We've seen that time and time again, where somebody catch fire in an All-Star weekend,

or do well on All-Star weekend, and the entire season is totally different after that All-Star weekend. You'll hear people say that, well, we'll see after the all-star break because people understand that from that point on, everybody switched gears. So let's say I'm sitting out and I'm waiting for the second half. I don't think resting is a great thing for players as they get older because the more

you start resting, the more you need that rest. That's just my vantage point. When you got young players and they're playin' through all of these times, if you gotta think about gettin' hurt, I got to wonder, were you really prepared for the season? So I just come from a different school of thought. Yeah, we was talkin' about it

because it wasn't necessarily the All-Star. We was talking about when Paul George wasn't necessarily the All-Star, we was talking about when Paul George got hurt in that preliminary Olympic thing, and you actually seen the players walk off the court and not go to the Olympics. And they was like, they stopped the game, looked at Paul George, went over to the Games Conductors, KD just walked out off the court,

couple niggas off, stopped it. Then niggas like, I'm cool on the Olympics because it's great having a gold medal and winning for your country, but your bread and butter and your money and your bottom line is in the NBA. So Paul George was lucky enough to have a 85% insurance on his contract, you know what I'm saying?

But it's not about that because if you, let's say, let's reduce round numbers. Let's say you got a hundred million, a hundred million dollar contract. You get 85% of it, so you get 85 million. But luckily, and thank God, you know, as much as we fucked with Paul George, it's a blessing for him to even still be playing basketball.

Yeah, his legs snapped. Like his legs snapped. Sean Livingston, Gordon Haywood, when we see injuries like that and I see people come back, I give them much props, man. As much as you're not the GOAT, Paul George, for you to even be playing, you get a lot of props from me.

Just cut the GOAT shit out and you'd be Indiana legend. Not Reggie Miller, but you wanted them niggas. Indiana George. Yeah, Indiana George. Miller, but you wanted him naked. Indiana George. Yeah, Indiana George. Ah, gee, run with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I like that. And what I was gonna say is this,

is that I think a lot of players would not even show up to All-Star if it wasn't part of the contract. Their contract actually binded in your contract. If you go to the All-Star, if you're nominated to go to the All-Star game and bearing injury, you have to go to the all-star game. I think madder them niggas would take the weekend off

and not even go. My personal opinion, I think they'd be like, man, I'm cool, tell niggas I got the flu. But you gotta go, you gotta prove that you're injured and sick or whatever. That's why you see the players who can't even play there most of the time, unless it's an injury to where they can't even track you.

Their contracts actually bind it to be there. To me, the way these niggas act, and these niggas wouldn't even come to the weekend, my point of view. Yeah, and you're seeing NBA players show up Sunday morning. They don't even wanna be there for the festivities at all. That's the point. You know, you sit there and think about

NBA All-Star Murder, when we see Shaq with the camcorder going crazy when niggas is dunking. Yeah. Blending up 11 and all of that. Yeah, yeah, and all that. You know what I'm saying? That's gone. That's gone. And to be honest, you can get competition to play, but that feeling's not coming back,

because we're not going towards that competition to play, but that feeling's not coming back. Because we're not going towards that as the NBA, as a country, as nothing because of social media, people branding theirself, they have their own outlets, they don't have to feel they have to comply to old media. They don't need it, so as a country, we're not going that way. So when niggas be like, not you, Murdo,

I'm just saying, and I watched a bunch of different shit, need to go back to East and West. It's like, you could, but these kids' minds are good. Yeah, exactly, their mind ain't there. As much as we wanna see it, you gotta think about this as well. And I'll let you and Tristan finish up on this. You gotta think about this as well. And I'll let you and Trista finish up on this. You gotta think about this.

And that's why I love the age I'm at. You know what I'm saying? To still be loopy, to still be in the mix, but still be old enough to not panic if my phone is under 50%. You know, I see kids go crazy. Oh my God, I'm the outlet. That's 50%, it's 49%.

Who got a cord? Yeah, like they fucking be bugging. I'm like, you got a whole 49%. I'll be looking for the outlets, so shit is on the 1%. Oh my God. I'm just saying, I'm being honest. Because you know what? I lived without a phone.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, you know, like I said, I do a lot of stand-up. Not do a lot, watch a lot of stand-up. And I remember Chris Rock said one time, his parents lasted so long, they was married over 50 years because his mother could not get in touch with his father for 12 hours because he was at work.

Can't call work, can't beep him, there was no beepers. You can't call him on the cell phone. That made sure you was happy when he got home. Niggas texting you, Oh, what are you doing? I'm at work, bitch. You know, all day, you just keep hitting my phone. Just relax. I'm getting back to you. But I don't think these kids are in that mind state.

And like I said, I don't mean to sound old when I was about to say what's that. Is that actually me and Murda been around to see niggas have the passion. Yeah. And see, and that's why we want it so bad cause we seen it. Yeah, on tip off the ball about to go up pause,

you see niggas like, yeah, let's go. Me and Bezo was talking about it and we were saying niggas used to stop what they was doing to go home for All-Star Week. But see, what happens is this murder, and this why sometimes, and this why I love that we have this show and this outlet so we can be ourself and be the regular niggas we are.

But it's like this. You gotta sit there and think about when you're fucking nine or 10 years old and you're enjoying, and you're enjoying Labibird and Magic Johnson, Isaiah Thomas and Michael Jordan and your Uncle Busau said, nigga, Jimmy Lou wasn't doin' that with the San Diego Celtics, nigga. And you like.

And Gervin, Iceman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you sitting there like. He ain't doin' nothing but what Iceman did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,, you're like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it.

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I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, all them niggas be like, Bill Russell got 11, he was coaching two of the times. He won 11. And sometimes I be like, damn, I hate to do it, but I cannot say I didn't see it. You know what I'm saying? What happens is when you don't see it, you be like, whatever, I didn't see it.

You know what I'm saying? So you don't care, then these kids didn't really see it. So I hate sometimes I have to do this, but it's just annoying. And the good thing about our day, though, we have people present that respected the people from before. I think the problem now is that you have people present

that try to erase the memories of people who went before. And that's where the passion is getting lost, because you're losing legacy, you know what I'm saying? And the way that people are commentating and the way that they're being analysts, we're losing legacy. So the blueprint that they should be coming up with, they're not coming up with

because you're raising them up with lies, telling them that bad is good. Like, oh, this is okay, because you make this amount. Instead, like, bro, you're really like an average player at best, but you make superstar money. You know, so that's really what's got the players jaded. Because a lot of people that are making 20 million, right,

they wouldn't make a team. Right. Nowadays. So that's why when you hear people like, one day me and you was talking, you was like, I would have 16 right now. Right? And people was laughing, but it's the quality of the player

and the quality of the athlete. And right now, people are just telling them what they want to hear. Instead, they need to... They're looking at the All-Star game like a company party like a company that's a good one yeah that's a christmas party how do i have to go yeah exactly some people are showing up for their job just to say hi to the bars but they don't really want to

be there yeah trish just made a good point niggas is showing up three, four hours before the game. Like we just said, niggas was coming all weekend to see everything. Watching everything. And if you could shoot, you was in a three-point contest, you wouldn't dare miss it. If you were a dunker or at least a little bit athletic, you know you was supposed to be in that All-Star, I mean, the dunk contest.

You almost felt slighted, like, oh, people don't think I could dunk like that? WhyStar, I meant the dunk contest. You almost felt slighted like, oh, people don't think I could dunk like that. Why am I not in this dunk contest? Yeah, cause everybody could make it and there was a lot of people trying. So you're right to be in the dunk contest. Yeah, like you just didn't get picked like, oh, we gonna take this one, that one, that one.

It's like, nah, bro, we not putting you in the dunk contest. And as a spectator too, I was in San Francisco this weekend. I was at an event inside a Chase Center, not inside the arena, but like in one of the steak houses. And I'm like, oh, the Dunk Contest is about to start. Andre Jackson, Mac McClung the third time around, or like a bunch of like great food,

great drinks, like the vibe is amazing. Like I don't want to go outside and walk through this entrance and go into the arena and deal with some bullshit. I'm just going to sit it out and I'll kind of just watch it on the screen without audio. And that's as a fan, as a media member, as somebody who grew up with the NBA to like skip the All-Star game, when you have a free ticket to the event, the Saturday Night event, and it's like, no?

Exactly. That's real bad. Right, and to add on to that, the cameras couldn't even hide the empty seats that was in there. I was like, yo, why was they catching that? And if I was the NBA, and the camera, and people, and the commissioner, because you know you're supposed to disguise it

if you got to zoom in and do whatever. I've seen too many empty seats too many times during that broadcast. Well, we gotta hit this break. When we return, there's one more solution that the women's game might have actually spurred. Let's talk about that. Is that the solution to All-Star Weekend

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Welcome back. It's time to go over our underdog picks of the day. Second half of the NBA season is just right around the corner. Looks like JoJo, Joellen Bede is going to be on the court, I think, this Thursday against the defending champs, the Boston Celtics. Underdog has his points prop set at 26 and a half. He has hit that three of the last four times that he's played, mace higher or lower against the defending champs. Mmm. You got to watch that. He has hit that three of the last four times that he's played Mace higher or lower

against the defending champs. Mm. You gotta watch Underdog, man, because Underdog, he might not play the whole game. This is a tricky one right here. Jojo. Oh, man. Mm.

He's capable of getting more points than that. I'm going to pause, Lord, I'm going lower. I'm absolutely going lower. I've been killing... I've been... Listen, Code Cam is back. Code Cam is back. I've been killing with these tight joints. Niggas had Zion for 26, I said under, he's not playing. Right before the game, he ain't playing.

Y'all won. This is another one. Joel Embiid will fracture a toenail tomorrow before this game. He will not be playing. And if he does play, he's gonna get hurt before halftime. Lower. I don't know the last time they could play the full game

thoroughly, absolutely lower. This is another good one then, because LeBron James took a whole week off, but they're playing the Charlotte Hornets on Wednesday. Is that a load management game where he only plays three quarters, or is he feeling like that's a full four quarter game?

His point prop is actually set at 23 and a half, which feels very low. Higher lower cam. I'm definitely gonna go higher because this second half of the season, they're probably, like you said, just a half game, game and a half out of the fourth seed. And then between that two and four, five seed,

it's only a three game span. Yeah, nobody say. Yeah, you could sit there and go on a three game winning streak in the two seed Memphis Grizzlies or Denver Can lose two or three and before you know it you're in second place There's no days off for the rest of the season when you're in that tight of a race unless you're really really hurt I'm gonna go high. Oh, I like that. Yeah, I'm definitely going higher for LeBron Yeah, LeBron has to really turn it up if they want to have a good half stretch

or a good third stretch after the All-Star break. Let's talk about this solution that hasn't been talked about so far in the show. So, Unrivaled, the women's three-on-three tournament that's in Miami, they spun off into a 1v1. Winner, Nafisa Collier won the whole thing, multiple time MVP. She ended up winning basically her full salary, $200,000 is how much she won. I know they don't make that much money in the WNBA, I know.

So now Adam Silver has come up with a 1v1 strategy for All-Star Weekend. 32 players maybe, maybe it's 24. A million dollars to the winner. What do you guys think about that format, maybe over Thursday, Friday, Saturday, or Friday, Saturday, Sunday? Do you think that will create buzz?

And if it's not a million dollars, how much do you think it would take for them to actually compete? Let's go with you, Mason. Man, this is interesting because when you think of the one-on-one game, again, we're just talking a million dollars when you're dealing with people that money is not enough to really get a reaction out of them.

I don't know if that will make them play better on All-Star weekend because when you think about it, some of the best one-on-one players are probably not even the people we think about. Back in the days, they used to say, what's his name, was the best. From the left-handed guy from, man, I'm forgetting his name. Curry? From Baltimore.

Curry, you made me think about Curry Goat. Yeah, it was a lot of nice, yeah, a lot of nice. That's what I'm saying, a lot of people that was super nice but they never made it. A kill? Crump stuff? No, he's left-handed. He played the three. He went to Kansas State. He was right after, or right before Kevin Durant.

Oh, man. Michael Beasley. Michael Beasley. There was a lot of people that couldn't beat Michael Beasley, one on one. But he was never the man on the team, right? So even today you'll see somebody like Cam Reddish, if we just drop the ball half court, that people can't beat him one on one. But then you put them in a system and people say he's not

that good. And it's not that he's not that good. Everything is ran through somebody else already. You know what I'm saying? So, and if you get somebody like Kam Reddish or one of them people win the whole weekend, then it looks, I don't think that helps the NBA. If you got somebody win the one-on-one that nobody thinks is like that, I don't think that's a good help. Yeah, I agree with that.

Because if you get Kam Reddish beating LeBron at the end, it's not gonna be good. It actually would damage the brand. It actually would damage the brand. Because, like you said, you sit there, you think about this, and I know you gotta play defense too, but just think about niggas. Carmelo would always win that.

You know what I'm saying? It depends on who's playing. And if niggas still take us, it's not about, you can come up, Adam Silver, NBA, whatever, with all these gimmicks you want. If niggas heart is not in it, it's not gonna matter. I can see somebody getting crossed over

and then nigga be like, ha ha ha ha go. And nigga not gonna be like, you know what I'm saying? Like, nah, let's go. Like you ever see, it's a play. Y'all can Google it. That nigga T-Mac did some wild shit to Kobe and made Kobe slip and fall. It's a real game for him.

Yeah. Kobe took that seriously. Kobe got so mad. Yes. Took the ball, went down on the next plate, and dunked on the old team and smacked the glass. Well, I thought he was gonna break the glass. If that's not your, that's a nigga who wanna get back.

You can't get crossed over or shook and be like, oh, that was a good one. I don't think nothing that you niggas is doing is gonna change the mentality of the player outside of playing, getting niggas from other countries because niggas from the other country want to be America. Like, I don't understand why it's big trivia. Only thing I could put to this is, like I said,

we don't wanna look like we lost to Choco Roar as Americans on basketball. Adam Silver, you could do one-on-one, three-on-three, five-on-five, four teams, four quarters, 40 points, 80 points. If niggas' mind state is not there, it doesn't matter what you come up with. Get ahead and listen.

These niggas' paws will be drooling to beat America. If you want to see niggas that want to play seriously, this will be Olympic- type shit for a weekend. Well, and that's what you think. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm standing on the fact of give the money to the baby moms, even if you give it to the mothers. Think about this.

When we look at KD, right? KD said his mother is the real MVP. Look at the buckets he gets behind that. I'm telling you, in order to bring greatness out of people, you got to get them to play for something bigger than themselves. No matter even, and I love killer, if they make it about overseas, then that

could damage the brand. You get what I'm saying? Let's say that you make it the US against Europe, and Europe blow them niggas out. Pause. Now what? Are we going to take the NBA to Europe? Yeah.

But this is exactly what I'm saying, Murda. This is why they haven't done it yet. This is what I'm saying. They're scared of losing to other countries or other continents. This is it. Because this is not a, it's not a, it's not Chinese checkers. This would have been done. But at the end of the day, it's not damaging the brand

because you still got, they're still in the NBA. They're just not Americans in the NBA. Now what's going on to the, to what you're talking about, we talked about this like three weeks ago. Europe is starting to league over there with their shit. NBA said, no the hell you not, we coming over here too. And then we talked about like three weeks ago or two weeks ago we talked about it on the show.

And we like, oh niggas is like, nah, they ain't keeping niggas. We setting up shop over there too. So the NBA, to add onto your point, they're actually setting up, and like it's NBA Africa now, it's about to be NBA Europe already. They're already doing that. But to your point, I get what you're saying.

You're saying that it's gonna fuck the brand up, but it's kinda not fucking the brand up because they're NBA players. What it is is fucking the country up. You're fucking the whole country up. Because trust me, like we said, on numerous occasions, these niggas wanna go home when the season's over. So if they could sit there and play in Europe

and make the same money that they made in the NBA, they wouldn't be here. They not coming back. They wouldn't be here. And people not gonna wanna fly 10 hours to play a game. Right, they would not be here if nigga, if the Joker or what the fuck,

let's just use Luca, cause he's about to get a super max. He could get 400. If he could get 400 home, he's not coming over here. He like the beer better over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. The water over there, the women over there, all of it. So I do agree with you as far as messing

the United States brand up. But for the NBA, to me, it's a win. And what I'm thinking is, to add onto your point, is if you do something like that, right, Adam Silver's, they trust me. It's not that we sit there and say Adam Silver. I'm not trying to talk about all of us because he's the commissioner.

It's a team of niggas who come up with all this shit. He's just not in there pointing fingers and saying, this is what we gonna do. They, I guarantee you, I've never been in none of these meetings, I have no information about it. They say we can't do that because we're murdered, they say. We do that and lose?

It's fucked up because what's gonna happen is Europe gonna try and figure out, look, we got the best basketball players in the world, let's get more sponsorship here and get more sponsors and keep these niggas home. So to me, that's the only reason they haven't done it, is because of what you just said. Rachel Nichols talked to KD, I think,

James Harden, Kyrie, a bunch of other All-Stars. Who the fuck Rachel Nichols work for? Yeah, where in Rachel? Oh, I think she's with HBO Max. Shout out to Rachel. And she's on public access last time, I swear. Yes. So she was at All-Star.

She said some racist shit, man. You know that, right? For real? That's why she got Ken. I don't know. What's her name? Oh, man. I like Rachel Nichols. She got mad, right? For real? That's why she got Ken. I don't know. What's her name? Oh, man. I like Rachel Nicholas.

She got mad because it was, you know what? It was just shit. Reverse racism. I forget what it was. It was the all it was. It was Malika Andrews in the finals in the bubble. The finals in the bubble. And she was on a hot mic.

Well, they had one of those Zoom things. So she was doing it. Tristan Nutt. That was crazy. So they had the Zoom situation. She thought she of those Zoom things. So she was doing... Oh, that was crazy. So they had the Zoom situation. She thought she turned the Zoom off, and it was off, but ESPN had a live recording the whole time. So she was talking to somebody on the phone.

I think, actually, she was talking to one of LeBron's guys, somebody who was on the bronze team, and was like, yo, this is fucked up. They got Malika in the bubble over me. This is in my contract. It's just don't make me the loser because you guys have a bad racial strategy because you guys have a racist policy,

and now I'm the one. Yeah, they basically said that they... The Rooney Lord, the Malika, like, yo... I think it was actually Maria Taylor, my bad. Whoever was somebody black, but they basically like, yeah, we gotta get some niggas in there, the diversity and all that, kick Rachel out. She talked about it and then turned her mic off.

Yeah. Anyway, so she... I would've wrote a book about it. Yeah? Yeah, I mean, if you got fired for it, can't get double jeopardy. Good point. Back to the one on one though, they all said that they would do it, right? Harden said, I would love to.

Kyrie said, I'm not ducking the smoke, I'm the fire. KD said, yes, I want to do it. Aunt Edward said, yes, sign me up. Do you think, like, is that a lie? Because I feel like once you roll the ball out and it's mano-i-mano, it's a very different thing than a team atmosphere, right? Like, there's an ego to it, there's a pride to it, there's that street ball component

of when you played as a little kid, like, you almost revert back to that, and you're gonna get clowned if you get smoked. Like, Breonna Stewart was a one seed in Unrivaled, and she got baggled by Aaliyah Edwards, who's like, only in her second year, a rookie. 12-0. So, do you think if they were... I know, like, so imagine, like,

KD getting smoked 12-0 to Cam Thomas. I feel like the ego or the pride of the player or maybe the fragility of not wanting to get clowned would allow that competitive juice to increase. What do you think, Mason? Some people are not gonna play. Watch and see what I tell you. There's gonna be some people you think

should be playing that won't play. I think where all of this got to be stopped is in the low management. Like for real, they need to find teams, the whole organization, if somebody is doing this. It's just time for the cream to rise to the top. I like that kind of concept better where you just let everybody play and

injuries is a part of a sport, no matter if it's football, soccer, hockey, basketball, injuries is a part of the sport. So that's why you want to be well conditioned. That's why you want to be in great shape, but all of this resting so you could be better in a postseason. That's really not competing. Competing is beating you on the same playing field that you're playing on. Whenever you're allowing somebody to have an advantage with something they're strategically doing,

that's against what they're getting paid to do. It's kind of like cheating. You get paid for 82 games. You should play 82 games. If I get the rest 30 games and then I show up, you know, on game 50 in the playoffs and now I'm looking energized. That's not the same as playing the same games as you and, and forcing my will upon you to win a championship. That's totally different.

But you know, again, I stand where I stand. What do you think, Cam? It's time for the cream to rise to the top. It's crazy. Hot mic. It was crazy, too. It's crazy. It's crazy.

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She ain't got no friends, though, bitch. She ain't got no friends, though, bitch. She ain't got no friends, though, bitch. salary as their WNBA salary. Why do you guys think that that won't work on the men's side? Well, I don't believe it'll work, is for the fact that it's still not enough money. Today's NBA players love the NBA, but they don't love it how we love it. We love the game. They love it today for the money.

So a million dollars is not enough for men. If you're telling me women only make 200,000 a year, then that million, they're gonna come out and they're gonna play hard for that million dollars because it's not- Shit, they went hard for 200. Yep. Yeah.

But you can't do that with the men. If they sign a contract, 300 million, 250 million, what money are you gonna put one on one that's gonna give them a sense of- It would be 10 million. Let me ask you gonna put one on one that's gonna give them a sense of... It would be $10 million. Let me ask you a question, B, that you brought that up. Do you think growing up that it was more about,

I'm talking about, you know, playing ball in the 80s and 90s. Mm-hmm. Do you think that it was more about the money or wanting to prove that you were good and getting to the next level? I think it was more about proving to the next level. Even though we took, when we was coming up, we really didn't talk about money pertaining to the NBA.

It was more like, I wanna get to the NBA so I can bust his ass. You understand? People you looked up to was like, okay, wait till I get to the NBA. I'ma get at him. It wasn't really about the money, it was more about, like I said,

the love of the game and the fame and what you could contribute to the game. What do you think, Mase, about that? I think if we had NIL deals, I wouldn't have finished school. Yeah, I'm about to disagree with Bill a little bit. Look, let's be honest. We almost didn't finish. We didn't finish. Yeah, we did, but the point being is, like,

we talked about this a couple months ago, maybe. How many niggas at 13, 12, 13 years old, we seen stop playing ball to sell drugs because they were making money? And they never returned to basketball. We seen niggas at 13, 12, 13 years old, we seen stop playing ball to sell drugs because they were making money. We see we... And they never returned to basketball. Exactly. We see them watching.

I don't know, we shot the native notey and marquee and Alistair, his brother Yoda. Manzi and all. Yeah, manzi. It's a bunch of people who stop because that's where the money was at. They sit there and ask me like, yo, Cam, you thinking with the NBA?

Look, in hindsight, being older, mature, I don't think I would make the NBA. You sit there and look at that. And you sit there and look at that 96 draft class. You be like, yo, that shit was tough. That's a pretty tough draft class. You gotta think of Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Marcus Canby, Alan Novosin. See, that's what made us think with Stephenson.

Yeah, that was the thing. He like, yeah, I could... Yeah, I could, I could, I could. Yeah, yeah. I'm not playing in your place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah place. Yeah, he's in there. We in there. I don't know, Sid. He's in there.

We in there. Shout out to the Marbury family. Oh, Tony Allen. Yeah, that was mom and Tyron. That was Stephanie. Maybe not drafted, but you know. Yeah, Stephanie's fourth. He was fourth overall.

He was not about to say lottery. Right before Ray Allen. Right. But the point being is this, right? So people ask me about this, and they'll be like, because I said to myself, I definitely could have won D1 not without a question, and maybe overseas in career.

But what happened is this. Mace went to school. I don't know how he got out of school. I don't know what happened is this. Mace went to school, I don't know how he got out of school. I don't know what happened up there. Purchase. I never asked, I didn't care. And then the next year I went to school and I got kicked out.

And then when I left school, Mace was in the process of hanging out with Cuda and in the process of almost getting a record. Not almost, but it took some time, maybe a year or so. And 19, 20 years old, supposed to be a sophomore, about to be a junior in college. So when you sit there and you sit there and say, yo, you know, because people didn't really understand,

like I didn't talk to people a lot about it. Yo, I was hiding from niggas, because I was so good, niggas be like, Ken, why you not in school? I'm like, oh, somebody's sick in the family, I had to come back. I'm literally wearing hoodies, going places, because I ain't feel like hearing that.

Yo, why you not in school? Why you not in school? And I'm like, yo, we on a 123rd scheme and just chill out. You know, niggas don't't wanna hear that when you get, they be like, yo, cut it out with the rap shit, man. You gotta stop, yo. You need to go back to school, you're too good. I remember I played in the tournament,

when I was like 19, 20, I didn't do good. Niggas say, you too young to be falling off, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now in fact, Rod Deuce said that to me, on my night two, he said, yeah, Rod Deuce said that. I said, yeah, come on, corner and he said, are you rapping, dog? You said that? You said that? Oh, that's what you're doing? Niggas don't want to hear it.

Yeah, these niggas stupid. And I can hear them when you walk through it. They want you to hear them. Yeah, bad boy, shout out to bad boy. My niggas passing. So you're gonna be big or small? Yes! You gonna follow Big Eleanor?

You ain't seen how that go. That's how you say it. Yeah, and we not talking about the, we not talking about the devil. We talking about his career. Not the devil, we talking about the career. Niggas on Outblock was harsh. Shit.

Oh fuck, see how that worked out for him. Like they that tight nigga. They jumping off the cliff one half to another. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dad is rude. Dad's half of another. Yeah. Yeah. That is rude. That's a rude nigga. Fuck.

Fuck wrong with you. That is what's fucked wrong with you. Yo, me and Cam came home from school, he said, I hope you don't get Cam following that pipe trick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Y'all are not going to be rapping. Yeah. Yeah. For real. Y'all are not gonna be rappers. For real. It got to be like that. Yeah. And then it was a tattoo.

God bless the dead tattoo. Yeah, God bless the dead tattoo. If he was your man, you would tell him to. That make his rude over there. Y'all ain't moving no rappers. That nigga's rude over there. That nigga's rude. That nigga's brutally honest to where they can't see.

That ain't your man, dog. Because if that's your man, you would tell him to get that. Tell him the truth. Tell him the truth. That nigga's just rude, bro. Tell him the truth. Niggas is rude, bro. And this all blocks. This shit. I used to sit over there and be like,

I can't believe I'm sitting in this shit. Niggas gonna be niggas fired if we shot them. That block is some wild shit over there. You better make it over there. You better make it. You got three layers of elephant skin to live over there, my nigga. I was just gonna say, how that not affect you guys' confidence?

They keep going. That made you wanna go hard. That made you go hard, Paul. You keep going. You better make it. You better, yo, my nigga, because I be feeling bad for people who didn't make it out, and they still my friends,

because you still gotta hear it. It's niggas we grew up with, I'm not naming no names, but you know, my little bro Sugar Dugga Younger than me and these niggas look bad, they not doing good. And he be like, yo, that was your man? And I be like, nah, he was aight nigga. And I be like, but what kind of your man? He look, he was hanging out with him.

I'm like, yeah. He like, yeah, I'm glad you ain't turned out like that, my nigga. Like, it's that type of bad because they still talk shit about you. Like, I can't even say half the shit I wanna say because niggas gonna know I'm talking about them. But it's pretty bad over there. Niggas would be snapping, they'd be like,

shut up, nigga, I just saw your mother three cracks. And they'd be like, shoo. Wow. Niggas mother was getting out of there and they wasn't lying. It was rude. But what I was saying is that- It was very harsh. It was very, shoo. Wow. Niggas muffins was getting out of here, and they wasn't lying. It was rude. But what I was saying is that... It was very harsh.

Very, very harsh. Like I said, I can't even tell you half, because Dean don't know what I'm talking about. But my point being is Mace, when I got kicked out of school... You see? You see? You see?

I couldn't even be around. Mase stayed in the house. Not, not, because we met Kuda. And what happened was Mase, Kuda, I don't want to speak for Mase, but Mase was like a great rapper, but Kuda knew how to format songs. And Mase ran when he figured it out.

Mase started teaching me this shit. But we stayed in this house on 123rd. Well, Mace, I'm saying, I came through like every day, but he was formatting doing songs and songs and songs and songs every day. Because you can rap, but do you not do a song? Do you not do a hook? Do you not count your bars?

Do you not make a melody? Et cetera, et cetera. So Mace was doing this for like a year straight. And I said this on a show last week, this is when preparation means opportunity. Cause he was so prepared that when he went to Atlanta to go try around for JD, he ended up being puff and everything else,

but he was the nicest nigga at the party. But people don't realize that that's a year or maybe more of preparation to go down there to be confident enough to say, fuck who in this party? What's the nigga name or fucking? JD. I mean JD, but I'm talking about Tracy Lee. Yeah, everybody that was supposed to be smoke

at that time. Yeah, exactly. So Mace went down there and killed, but that's where opportunity meets preparation. What's the five P's? Proper planning prevents poor performance. So that's, keep that in mind when you guys are making, trying to just finagle your way.

You can't always put- Yeah, trying to talk your way into an opportunity. Right, so last thing I'll say, cause I know we'd be along with it on this, but the last thing I was gonna say is that, when I came home and everybody's like, you're going back to school, cause we originally started talking about B with the money.

It's like, yo, we probably would have been finished in sophomore year about to be juniors, but nigga about to sign with Bad Boy, are we gonna risk going back to school and see if we make the NBA? Nah, B, I gotta disagree with you. I gotta... I gotta go with him. The money was available, so we gotta go with the money.

But you're right, niggas did wanna bust each other ass, but to me, it was always for the money. Really quick before we end, if NIO would have been available, like the same way it is right now, do you think you guys would have been rappers? That's a good question. What do you think, Mase?

What did you like more? If the money was the same or the opportunity was the same. I don't think we would have been rappers. I think possibly because we just rap for a hobby anyway. It wasn't like we just said, okay, let's be a rapper and try and get paid one day. We was just doing this shit anyway. It's kind of like that girl-

We was doing rap the same way we was doing basketball, to be the best. Yeah, exactly. But we never thought we'd be professional, but we wanted to be the best going around, exactly. But we never thought we'd be professional, but we wanted to be the best going around battling niggas and everything. It's kind of like now, like that girl from LSU, she's a rapper, she signed the Roc Nation.

The Flau'jae. Flau'jae, she's a rapper. So you never know, it might have been NIL. And then if we didn't go pro, we'd be like, yo, let's take these sponsors over to music. Mm. Yeah. Well, that's all these sponsors over to music. Yeah. Well, that's all the time that we got.

We got a wrap. We went a little long. Let us know in the comments. What did you think about the All-Star Weekend? What would you have done to fix it? Is it even fixable? That's all the time that we have. Wait, wait, and do y'all agree

that the mothers should get the All-Star? And do you agree that the baby mamas should get the all-star money? And do you agree that the baby mamas should get the all-star money? That's the key piece. And was Hot Mic actually a pause? I don't think it was. That's all the time that we have for today. I had an absolute blast. Good having you back, Trish. We appreciate you. Man, I appreciate you guys. Loved it.

Thanks for watching, and as always always it is what it is Everything nigga super size like when they doin' them two for five