IT IS WHAT IT IS - MA$E & CAM'RON CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT STAT BABY OVER HER STEELERS & LIAM COEN PRESS CONFERENCE FALLOUT!

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

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Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is presented by Underdog. If you're new to Underdog, today's the day, get $75 in fantasy bonus entries when you play just $5 on fantasy with code. It is what it is. So Underdog is bringing the playoff magic all postseason long. Every playoff weekend, make sure you all open the Underdog app to see what promos are waiting for you. Underdog is available right now in most states, including Florida, Texas, and California, just to name of few. So make sure y'all support the show. Hit that subscribe button. Lock in your bonus and start playing today with code. It is what it is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host,

Mace and Cam. And today we are joined with our analysts, Arabia. Somebody got to win. Hi, guys. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Glad to see you and have you back. Somebody got to lose. I'm doing great. Thank you. How are y'all? How's y'all new year coming? How's 2020. in y'all so far. Really, really good. Really, really good. And stat is up here. I can't wait for this show.

Arabia is wonderful to have you here at 2026. Killer, how are you doing, man? You got a good haircut, man. Thank you, man. I just started brushing my hair again. I only take three days for me to get my ways back. I only take a couple days for me to get my scissors back.

Yeah, I've been brushing for like two days. for like two days now. Yeah. Yeah, my sister's right there. I'll be be beehiving soon. I know you want to have a wave battle. You know, you want to have a wave battle. You know, wave, but thank you for the compliment.

You don't give out a lot of those, man. I appreciate it. And it's good to have you here, Statt. I'm sure it's so small. Yes, pray, you know? Yeah. Love that. My goodness.

That's so good to see you here today. Is there anything we can do for you? Why? The answer is, no, we have a lot to talk about. Do you got a dog at the top of the arena? No, anything else, maybe. Keep going down the list. What else you got?

I can't wait. Is Papa Statt doing okay? Does he have a dog? He does, actually. You know? With him, he does. Is it now Europe's team? Like, you know, let's go.

Go, let's go. I can't wait to go. Now, which team are we, which on thing are we starting with today? I'm sorry with the Steelers. Okay, you know, welcome to the show, everyone. It's so great to have you here, you know. Okay, let's just get into it. Arabia, glad to have you back. Okay, so the Texans are moving on to play the Patriots after beating the Steelers 30 to 6. Arabia, what did you think about how this game went? Well, first of all, D.K. Metcalf is back from his suspension just in time to see Mike Tomlin tie, Marvin Lewis. For most consecutive playoff losses, he's 0 for seven in the last seven playoffs and the last five have been by double digits. So welcome back to D.K. Metcalf, but now it's time to go back to the off season. Arthur Smith, to me, left a lot to be desired as far as

play calling goes, the sealers are averaging 2.6 yards per carry on first down runs. That really leaves you in really bad late down situations when you're starting to drive off, when you're starting the down off with a first, your run is for a loss or for very short game. So play calling really wasn't there for me. I'll keep an eye out on Arthur Smith's job position to see if he keeps that over the next few days. As far as the Texans go, Nico Collins exited the game with a concussion again. He missed week seven and week eight due to a concussion and he's out again. This is a huge hit for Houston.

He is C.J. Stroud's favorite target. He leads the Texans and targets. He's tied for most receiving touchdowns with Jaden Higgins. He's tied with six. He's also leading the Texans and receiving yards by about 350 receiving yards. So this is a really big hit. Most likely this is a short week for Houston. They will probably be without Nico Collins against the Patriots on Sunday.

So, you know, we'll keep an eye out for that, that, uh, Houston offense to see how that works out. Listen, listen, I'm just happy to say that every year around this time. We come to the same conclusion, you know, Mike Tomlin, hey, welcome to 500 again. You know, stat, this is getting repetitive stat. You might as well on your jersey instead of putting a number, just put 500. because that's what you guys are going to be every year. Get you a steal of jersey with 500 on the front,

500 on the bat, stat baby. I'm making a jersey more. If you're watching, send me to Jersey. I have to get this jersey. This is not anything we did not know. We knew it was coming to this end every time around this year. We knew that C.J. Strout was going to be over 225. I told you guys this.

The only thing I was wrong about was Metcalf. I thought he was going to have a little bit pause, more yardish than this. But this is exactly how I expected to go, you know. Aaron Rogers has been playing phenomenal all during the season, but far the time always kicks in around this time. You know, I wish I had the Dion watch on today, or it should do. I would just go like this because this is the time it normally happens. I don't know how many ways to say it's that.

But you're not surprised that. this is how you guys do it, you know. So tomorrow I had a, what's that, a blanket that I was going to come in with, you know. It was a stillest blanket I was going to wear and probably give it the stat, you know. I appreciate your stat. This is just for what you told me about the chiefs this year. I just had to get my get back, you know. Do you feel like your get back was got?

Not yet. You don't know what I got as a surprise. waiting for you in the rest of the know how those surprises go they don't appear but yeah but I look forward to Houston I think Houston I actually think

Houston might beat New England and I'm going to go on the record because they look so good they're playing championship putting up championship points and that's what I look for as an expert of the non-experts that when you start putting up these kind of points, you definitely got a chance. It's not the team who got the best defense all the time.

Sometimes it's a great defense, but it's better offense, and that's what I like about the Houston, Texas. That's a lot to say. Get it off your chest. A lot to say. Good. Do you think. First thing. Sucks how much a game can just lead your mood, the way you feel, but time has come. It's here. It's not you got to talk about it. First of all, as far as the Patriots, Mace, I actually disagree with you.

Honestly, I'm just going to say congratulations to them because if the Texans play them, the way they played us, they're going to have a time. The overall game to me was not a good game. There was a lot of things that happened in the first half that were Texans' mistakes, right? You had C.J. Stroud dropping the ball. You had us, well, granted, we were struggling definitely towards. the second half of the game because we saw Aaron Rogers had a fumble. They were able to pick up the ball, make touchdowns. Just the whole game throughout was real slow. Was that a good seven and six up until maybe like end of, end of first half, early third quarter? I don't remember exactly when

it changed, but it was a really stagnant game. It was a lot of defense. Our defense came in hot, right? At first it looked like, okay, like the Steelers are actually making strides. We're actually doing something. D.K. Metcalf is far out, but then he's dropping passes. It's like, okay, where is this direction going to go. But then by the time it got to the fourth quarter, it was just an overall shit show. Like there was a lot of opportunities where we could have capitalized off the Texans mistakes and we didn't. Like Aaron Rogers had a lot of time for certain plays and then he just didn't run the ball. It sucks to not have a mobile quarterback. And again, you can you can look at what he's done, you know, this season and what he did this game. And that doesn't take away from what he's done

in the past because I think overall he's still a great quarterback, but just how it all unfolds when you see what happens in the end, it's just like, damn. But it's like all the things that we were concerned about at the beginning of the season, bid us in the ass towards the end. So I just feel like overall, I can't say it was a good game because it wasn't a good game. I mean, the Texans had a blast towards the end because then at that point, we were just messing up a lot and they were able to make touchdowns and shout out to them because they also lost some key players. Like we saw Nico Collins go out and they were able to still profit off of, you know, mistakes and be able to capitalize for them at the end.

But just overall, it was just a frustrating game. And it's just like, what do the Steelers do next? You know, because like we've said throughout and I know they always get on me, but like we can't be content with mediocrisy. Like we don't just want to be over 500. That's not what we want. And even just play calling on the offensive side. I'm not even going to like say too much to defense because I think the defense did

exactly what they needed to do for most part of the game. Offense, it just wasn't a match against the Texans defense. And it's like, we also knew this going into the game that the Texans had the best defense really in the league. So it wasn't supposed to be an easy one, but I didn't think it was going to be that bad. So it's real frustrating. I know all Steelish fans feel the same way. And it's just like if we're going to start making changes, where do we start making

those changes at? That I cannot tell you. But that's how it was, Cam. Now it's time to make changes. I told nicks. Suss-s-s-s-s. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Yeah, I make-changes.

Now, they want to make changes. Last week's niggas told me they went to the Super Bowl. This week, niggas making changes. This is crazy. Yeah. Ha-ha-ha-ha. I mean, it's just like watching the game. Like, I don't even understand.

Like, it's hard to explain the feeling when you just see the decline. Were you crying? No. I'm not really a crier. Larry. Just irritated. Larry, when she got a running quarterback, they need somebody who can pass the ball. When they get somebody who can pass the ball, now they need somebody who's mobile.

Well, of course you need, of course you need both. You need somebody who you can do both. They say he's not tall enough. Well, we also didn't really get both also. Like, if you look at the quarterbacks that we've had, especially like after Big Ben, like, Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph. Like, we didn't have the best options to begin with.

So it's like Aaron Rogers, it's like overall, like you're seeing him as a good pick. But yeah, like you said, father time or whatever you want to call it. Because literally the other day, your take was, this is when veteran QB. is coming to play and this is how they win game like the same way I'm flip flopped it like everybody's taking them flip it off veterans veteran in the football league is it's pretty much

under 34 it's not it's not that veteran and senior citizens are different we we need a clear definition because Justin Herbert was a senior citizen at one but like yeah and that's what I said that's That's what I said. Justin Herbert was a senior citizen? That's what he said. No, no. Okay. Yeah, you know it's true.

I mixed them all with the other one. Was that Justin Herbert? I don't know. That's true. You thought Justin Herbert was... She's angry. Philip Rivers. Very.

Yeah. It's not the time. It's not the time. But I definitely was thinking about the age, but we're not gonna line jump stat. We're gonna let Cam. Oh, now we're not lying. It's just situational

when we decide. to line stuff and would not to. Okay, got it. Heard. We're not going to line stuff. Listen, you know what it is? And because my teams, as far as, you know, the San Antonio Spurs, which we're doing good this year,

and, you know, I've been a long-time Cincinnati Bengals fan after Tom Brady left the Patriots. And they haven't been doing good. So I've never really been emotionally involved. to where I get mad because my teams usually aren't doing good, even though the Spurs growing up, they've done good, Tim Duncan, Navajo, Tony Park, et cetera, and we know what the Patriots have done.

But this is why I'm not a Nick fan, because I've refused to be emotionally evolved when you think something could happen, and it's just not, it just doesn't happen. You know what I'm saying? like, and I see the frustration on Stats' face and the anger. She can't hide it. You know what I'm saying?

But I understand it because you think, okay, we got a shot this year when I knew they never had a shot this year. This is the same thing that they did last year. Mike Tomlin, long as, or is this, eight playoff consecutive losses straight in a row? Seven. Seven. Seven, seven.

Seven, seven, thank you, Arabia. Seven straight. But, but. Look, I'm not going to rain on anybody's parade. I'm just going to say congratulations to Houston Texans because it was a time in this season where we didn't think the Texans would be where they're at now. C.J. Strout was out.

They didn't look good. And we basically would say, what happened to C.J. Strout from two years ago. Last year, he didn't have a great season. He looked decent, more than decent the year before last. And it looked like this season was going to be a wash. and then for them to come back and get a wild card win and move on to the divisional next week.

It's really amazing. But I do want to say this, man, because it looks like this will be the end of the road for Aaron Rogers. I just want to say that, you know, we live in a society that doesn't remember yesterday. And Aaron Rogers was considered at one time, and to some still, top five quarterback ever. And, you know, this season, you know, like May said, people get older and people just get older.

But Aaron Rogers has a cessational career. If he decides to come back, it is what it is. But if he doesn't, we got to still give him credit. You know what I'm saying? Let's just take this in consideration. And I'll end it with this. Aaron Rogers played against Domingo Ryan's. Domingo Ryan's actually has a sack on Aaron Rogers.

That's how long Aaron Rogers and his longevity speaks to being in the league. It's like when players come in and get on the basketball court, they'd be like, see LeBron James, you play against my dad. And Braun, like, damn, Bronner, your dad ass, paws, and his ass, that's longevity. So I know it didn't look the best for Aaron Rogers going out, but if it is the last game he had, I know it wasn't great, but I want to say thank you for Aaron Rogers because he had a definitely, he definitely had a great career, just didn't end on the good note and not on a good night either it was pathetic actually yeah I think I

think I have a question for you oh go ahead yeah no I was just gonna ask if this outcome changed how you feel at all about Tomlin and his future with the team or do you kind of feel the same nothing's changed nice way nice way to let her down Arabia nice way I like that I'm gonna take your approach I think the Steelers would be better if they just lost more, right? Because then they would be able to get a better quarterback. I think this going 500 every time actually hurts them because it doesn't put them in position to get much better talent with just being right here. If they would just lose a little bit more, then they will have higher draft picks and then they will be able to

get the pieces that they need instead of just staying right here year after year. because Camp said seven losses. Next year will make eight. They'll just keep being right here until they either get rid of Mike Tomlin or they actually take Mike Tomlin away from this, not get rid of Mike Tomlin until they actually lose more. When they lose more, they'll get the talent they need, and then they'll be to Pittsburgh still as they're supposed to be.

My opinion, Mesa, and that's a great point. I like that. But, dude, you can't really tank, but that's a good point. Yeah. It's stagnant and it's where, you know, you're not going to get top draft picks. That's a very good point. But to me, my opinion is I don't think Mike Tomlin will be back next season. Not because he gets fired.

They'll make, you know, he's too legendary. You have a coach to where they're not going to say they fire them. They'll say some shit like it's a mutual agreement or next year, if they do it again, they'll definitely be his last season. My opinion, with the Steelers, this isn't about he's not a good coach. Sometimes you just need a new voice. But to stats point as well, it's a lot. There's no consistent quarterback play over there.

Everybody up here has made great points. There's no consistent quarterback play. Mace, you just made the point that they can't probably draft the great quarterback because they're stagnant in the middle and you're not going to get one of the top quarterbacks because you're not as bad as the other teams. Everybody up here, Rayby, all you guys takes were really, really great today, which is very rare. So I just want to say that Mike Tomlin, if this is... his last year with the Steelers.

He'll have a job in 30 seconds. Definitely. Yeah, just think if they lost a little bit more and they got a great quarterback. Just think if they was losing at least four more these games and they get to the place where they could be potentially the first or second pick.

They get the guy from Indiana and they would still have pickings. They wouldn't even need the trade. They just know that we're going into a better direction and they will have a young, you know, quarterback, young receivers that could really get the job done. That's where they need to be. Yeah, I completely agree with you, Mace.

I think that's like the ideal long-term situation is the draft. You're a young franchise quarterback so you can have them for years to come. But if you look at a couple other teams that are currently in the playoffs, the Rams didn't get their quarterback from the draft. They were able to make a really good trade for him from Detroit or even the Seahawks. The Seahawks didn't get their quarterback this year from the draft. They made, they got him from the Vikings. Even the Colts, like they started off really hot and kind of, you know, fizzled out towards the end of the season.

But they went to go get Daniel Jones. So sometimes if you can't get your guy from the draft, you can have a short Super Bowl window or playoff window you can get with the right trade, the right offseason moves. So even if you can't get it from the draft, you got to be smarter in the off season with the quarterback position. That's really good. But you know where Daniel Jones is right now? He's not used to playing them kind of minutes. And when you got players that are not used to playing them kind of amendment, you can't expect them to do it in the playoffs.

So that's why I kind of said go to the draft, but I understand what you're saying. I thought that was a great point, Arabia. Dan Jones, he's hurt. That's why he had to go out and try and get Phillip Rivers. But you're right. Sam Donald, they niggins are ready to kick him to the curb before Minnesota when they got him.

Minnesota fumbled on them. And then that was another great point with Matthew Stafford, because, you know, people were looking at that particular trade saying, yo, why are you getting rid of Jared Golf? Y'all niggins just went to a Super Bowl with him. And they're like, yeah, but we didn't win it with him. And then ironically, they won it the first year with Matthew Stafford. I thought that was a great, great, great point.

Okay, that's a great point for both of you. So who is the quarterback you think right now they could trade Aaron Rogers for right now? Aaron Rogers isn't going to get traded because he's retiring. So it isn't about getting traded. It's about seeing who's available in the offseason and not just working on a contract. It's different scenarios. Like, right, when she brings up Sam Donald, Sam Donald was, contract was up. Minnesota didn't want to pay him because he had a bad game going to the playoffs.

So he ended up going with Seattle. It wasn't a trade situation. and it was free agency where they got him. But to her other point, it was a trade situation with golf. So it's different scenarios for different things. Right now it's going to be an open slot for Pittsburgh because most likely Aaron Rogers is retiring. So I don't know who you get in free agency.

That's the thing. Who's going to be a free agent? And I don't know that off top of my head right now, which quarterbacks are free agents. But then again, when you think about somebody like Daniel Jones, you wouldn't think that he would be starting with Indiana it wasn't before the season over

if I'm not mistaken he was a backup with Minnesota last year and then he ends up winning a starting job with the cults no that wouldn't have been on anybody's agenda winning solves a lot you know what I'm saying so I don't know who's going to be available in a free agency this year

Russell Wilson Joe Flacco Daniel Jones Marcus Mayota Well, Russell Wilson already was with Pittsburgh. Joe Flacco's, he's the same age almost as Aaron Rogers, but he's a bad, he's a bad, he's a good backup, not a starter. And Trey Lance. So it doesn't look good for free agency.

That's why, that's how I was hearing, you know, so I thought about that. You did. You Google it. You can. I had my notes. This is my, that's my computer. This is here, killer. You don't know it was free agency.

All you're trying to do is just credit, Arabia's take. I thought it was a great take. I thought it was good. I thought it was a good take too, if we disregard the information. That's why I was trying to bring the information to the table, because normally stat will look it up,

but she's not in the mood today. So I figured out. Not what it is. There are just no quarterbacks that I knew would even be in the court. conversation if you are our quarterback so there's no point in bringing it up case closed before we move on though we love you style we love you love you love you all too but sometimes love hurts and this is one of those ones i don't know why you got an attitude like everybody else ain't out

everybody else is out too yeah but y'all were supposed to be out you and us that you and us that's the guy we actually wasn't supposed to be out man here's the city got to best quarterback in the league. The last year, last year the commanders look really good. Jayden Daniels looked good. You know, we didn't know Joe Burroughs going to get hurt. If anybody wasn't supposed to be out with none of our teams, you were supposed to be out before any of our teams.

Yeah, you overachieve, staff. God, team. Yeah, it's even to the point where, you know, we got this, whether it is group texts, and I just rolled my eyes at Arabia's text yesterday talking about, yo, the Chicago beers look identical. to the commanders as last year. I'm like, yo, just calm down.

Look, nobody's talking about the commanders this year. He's trying to figure a way to throw them in there. Let the Chicago Beds be the Chicago Beds. And now you're still comparing them to the commanders. People can't let it go. So don't feel bad. That everybody's out. That's true.

I will ask just before we move on, because Cam brought up a great point. And I know, like, he gave his prediction. But Arabia, do you think that there? that was Aaron Rogers last game. I hope so. I think so. Hopefully he's had enough.

And I think he's going out sadder and sadder. The longer and longer he tries to maybe get a ring with someone else before he leaves. He tried it with the Jets. He tried it with Pittsburgh. Everybody can't beat Tom Brady. Everybody can't get six rings with the Patriots and then immediately leave and goes to the Bugs

and get another ring. Like, hopefully it is. I'm gonna say that it is. If not then, maybe he's just a masochist. Okay. Why can't he link up with Pete Carroll somewhere? like everybody else does. Pete Carroll's fired.

Yeah, and nobody's saying, and do what? That's what I mean. Like Pete get the job, he gonna get a nigga that wasn't playing good, and they make magic happen, you know? Pete, I don't even got a job right now. But, um. Yeah, they're both done. Yeah, but look, man, I'm trying to think,

I can't remember, the only person I could really think of off top of my head, that went out with the Super Bowl. Even Tom Brady didn't go out with a Super Bowl. It's probably John Elway. And it doesn't always happen like that. We've seen as much as that's one of my favorite quarterbacks all the time talking about Drew Brees.

He tried it. You know, everybody's not, he didn't go out as bad as that Rogers went out, but everybody's not gonna get a Super Bowl and go home. It just doesn't work that way. It's very hard, pause. Not.

Okay. Who is your quarterback, Justin Fields, right? Yeah, well, both. Do you think it would have been better now looking back in hindsight if they would have led Justin Fields just have an entire season? No. Because now looking, you know how you say, like, time will always tell? Just looking at how things have went, I just feel like from what we've seen

and even what we've seen other teams deal with him, it probably just wasn't best case scenario for him. Not saying that he's bad, but he's not the best. Yeah, I was thinking about that because while you guys are looking for a quarterback, it might have been better for him because just like Daniel Jones, some people don't play good at other places, but I think if he would have continued playing, he could have got this same record that Aaron Rogers got

because he was off to a good start. It's just they took the position from him too early. Yeah, he was off to a good start bound. I don't know about that experiment. The experiments are getting old, but that's what you got to do to win. That's a good point to Mace point. He was like five and one.

and then Russell Wilson got paying back and they took the job from him so you don't never know what he could have been to be totally honest at Pittsburgh at least specifically with the Steelers that's what I'm saying from what we've seen I'm like I don't know because he started off hot too even in that first game but I don't know

you just never know that's kind of another what if situation okay so moving on there's some more coaching news so the Browns have actually interviewed a number of people one being Mike McDaniel for their head coach opening. Arabia, what kind of coach do you think the Browns need? And then do you think Mike McDaniel would be a good fit? I think Mike McDaniel is a much better coordinator than he is a head coach. You know, sometimes some women are better side chicks than they are main chicks. Some women do better over here than they do in the main relationship. And I think that's what Mike

McDaniel is. Speaking to a few dolphins players who are under his tutelage, they don't think he's a great head coach. I think he's an example just like Robert Sala, who gets fired from the Jets and now has been very successful in San Francisco as a defense coordinator. Everybody can't be head honcho. Sometimes you got to be a role player and that's okay. We see Spagg, Steve Spagnola, defensive coordinator for the Chiefs. Chiefs didn't have a great year, but over the recent few years, I think Spags has been a much better coordinator than he was as a head coach and Cam, I'm throwing the commanders

in there again, I'm a fine way. It was a really good way. It was a really good defense coordinator and then he becomes head, coach gets fired as a Falcons head coach and becomes coordinator again and then he gets a second chance of head coach. So for me, Mike McDaniel, much better coordinator. And if he does become a head coach, I don't think yet, like take, go back to coordinator. I know it can really hurt your ego being demoted from head coach to coordinator, but go back to coordinator like some other people have done and found success. And then try later to be head coach down the road when you get some

experience because I've heard some things about him as a head coach. And then as far as what kind of coach the Browns need. I just think that they need somebody who will, will be a leader of men. And if you are a defensive coach, which I think could really benefit a Miles Garrett, a defense that's just being, you know, really dominant in the NFL right now,

make sure you have a offensive coordinator that you could be hands off with. Just somebody who really has their players' best interest in mind because I can't say that I thought that about Kevin Stefansky in this roster at time. So best luck to Mike McDaniel, but to me, much better coordinator than head coach. Now, I normally get these two Ohio teams mixed up.

Which one are you talking about again? For the Browns. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I think it actually could be a good fit. You know, not that it's guaranteed the work, but like you said, your statement was platinum, you know. But when it comes to the Browns,

I think if they're going to go in the direction of playing Chador, then he might be a good fit. Sometime when you got two new people there together, they get to grow together and have this new nuances that allows this team to thrive in a much better way. I think their defense is already straight. If they could, I mean, if they could put up some points, it could change a lot of things for this team.

So I really, I'm for it. I want to see, it can't be no worse than what they've already done. So they needed to shake it up. and maybe this is the direction that'll show that. I wish I would have been thinking about with them all fucking Cleveland Browns and what's the nigga Mike? Mike McDaniels.

It's January. I didn't study this. I didn't care. I've seen this question. I said I wish I would spend my time doing homework on this. It's January. I don't know what they know, I'll be honest with you. What I'm more interested is this.

Yo, Arabia, you ever been a side chick? Hell yeah, I was a side chick when I was in a relationship. That's the best dynamic. See, people kind of getting messed up. The best time to be a side chick is when you in a relationship too, because you got something to lose, he got something to lose, anybody trying to blow their spot up. So yeah, I've always, when I was a side chick,

I was also in a relationship in a previous life. I don't do that anymore, but yeah. That was great. What, what, what, did you like it though? Was it cool? Yeah, it was great. But actually, I had a better relationship with my side-nigger than I did with my main.

Yeah, that's how to be side-nigger nation. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, side-nigger nation. Yeah, side-nigger nation. Yeah, side-nigger nation. Sometimes, because you know what it is? Sometimes you don't want to be the main nigga because you don't have to, you don't want to have to deal

with all that shit. You know what I'm saying? And then you know what be happening to murder? You've been out the game a long time. You know what be happening to? That girls be more mad than the side-naker. than the main niggas sometimes. Because they be getting caught up,

and then you gotta remind them, I'm not your nigger. You got a whole nigger. I'm not your nigger. And then last thing on this topic, Murdo, I'm just schooling. Yeah, you're the Super Bowl. I get it. Yeah, no, because this is what happened too, right? And this girl told me this one time.

And this years ago, when I had a girlfriend and I was kind of doing what Arabia says she was doing, I said, you know, She's like questioning me and shit, and I'm like, yo, you're not my girl to be questioning me about nothing. She said, you're so dumb. You don't even realize I'm really am your girl.

You're over here three, four nights a week. I'm cooking for you. You're happy when you leave. You're mad when you leave your real house. You stupid-ass, nigga. I really am the main chicken. You don't even know it. I ain't speak to that bitch for like a month

and then end up going right back over there. The next month. She pissed me off, she's braced. You reverse psychology on me. I was mad about that shit. I'm like, Warren, I am over here a little more. I am happy. She's like, you stupid-ass, Nick, you don't even realize.

I am the main chick. But go home to your bitch, that's what you think your bitch is. Your PS was over there, so. Yeah, my PlayStation definitely was over there. So you. Yeah, you ain't lying, man. It's stamped. I was more interested in who's coaching Cleveland, Cleveland to me.

I'm like, it's a nice combo there. I know you have no interest in the coaching conversation, but we got one more before we go to prayer. So John Harbaugh, so we know that a lot of teams have interest in this coach and a lot of buzz noting the Titans, Falcons, and the Giants could be a number of options, but Arabia, where do you think he should go? So a few options for me include Miami is one. Not super likely, but Miami is one because of Stephen Ross.

And I've spoken at length about Stephen Ross, owner of the Dolphins. He's a huge Michigan fan. He has an appreciation for the Harbaugh's. Michigan's School of Business is named after the Dolphins owner. So when John Harbaugh became available, he fires Mike McDaniel. They now have a new general manager. And so the Harbaugh could go to Miami because of Stephen Ross and his connection to Michigan.

That's one. Another one is the Giants. I think the Giants have the market and the roster for the scheme and bravado of John Harbaugh. I think it could be really interesting. They have a lot of talent on that team, and I can see him in the New York market. Another one is the Falcons,

a big benefit of the Falcons, another young roster with a lot of talent. He also could be involved in the GM process because they're still looking for their general manager, and that's really attractive. A petty way he could go, And I don't think he will, but it's just an interesting thought experiment. He could be petty and go with Cleveland.

I don't think he wants those problems twice a year with the Ravens. I don't think he wants to do that. But if he wanted to be petty, he could go with Cleveland. He did oversee the drafting and development of Joe Flacco. He did oversee the drafting and development of Lamar Jackson. And right now, Cleveland's quarterback room needs some developing and some overseeing. So he could be intramid in that. He could be an asset as far as making sure that Miles Garrett is taking care of.

I mean, he's been the leader of men with a really good Ravens defense in the past. So I could see him going that petty route, but again, I don't think he will. Again, Titans need a head coach. Cardinals need a head coach. Raiders need a head coach. But I would like to see him in a bigger market. So maybe the Giants potentially, but we'll see. Yeah, I'm all for him going to New York.

When I think about John Harborough, he'll be perfect for New York. They got Jackson Dark. They got Scatterball. I know Cam doesn't like him because he's running with the name. And the streets are saying he might be the biggest Cam in the city. That's how you press a button right there. Trying to raise me. Yeah.

This name is trolling, you know. That's trolling at its best. That's right. Yeah, I can see him going to New York. And with that young talent there, you know, who knows how far he could take this team? He could turn it around in one season. We just saw it with the Carolina Panthers that just the right mindset could come into a nation of football and turn it around in one season.

It can go from a dollar ticket to them playing in the playoffs. So I think this will be perfect. New York is a big market. He'll love the city. The city will love them back. You know, even he'll have the four seasons like he had in every other place. So I think that would be perfect for him. It's only for the whole, he don't have to take a job right away.

But if we're saying, what if for me, if I'm John Harbaugh, it's only one place for me. It's the Atlanta Falcons. If I'm John Harbaugh, I'm 63 years old, I ain't got time to be rebuilt. I ain't got time to deal with New York media if I don't get this shit done in a year or two to be on my back talking about fire him. This is why Baltimore got rid of him. Like Arabia said, you could be petty. We talked about another show, Arabia as well,

how he could go sit to Cleveland and play against them twice. But all these teams that were talking about Titans, it's too much rebuilding. We don't know the situation was going to happen in Miami. We don't know what Tyree. Hill is coming back. It's just a mess down Miami

as they look so promising a couple years ago. You got right now, The NFC South and Atlanta actually, you know, they didn't win it, but they tied with the same record as the people who won it. You got a decent quarterback, a good, a decent backup quarterback, decent receivers and a great running back. But John Robinson, I think he's top five, if not top three, running backs this year.

You're in a situation to win immediately if you go to Atlanta. So if I'm a 63-year-old John Harbaugh, I ain't got six, seven years to rebate. I don't, that time to be 70 the time we get shit together. And like I said, well, really, like May said, you know, we did see a major turnaround

with North Carolina. Sometimes you just do need, you just do need a new voice. But if I'm John Harbaugh, I'm going to Atlanta. That's the team I would go to. I ain't got time for nothing else. I'm old. Okay.

In the comments down below, let us know where y'all think Harbaugh should go. We're going to go to break. When we return, we will discuss what's next for A.J. Brown and Philly. What's up, big dog? What's up, big dogs? Martin Luther King Jr. will be alive today if Tewa was the shooter.

To his passer rating can barely go to the club and get a bottle. 24.1 passerated against the Brown. Marlon Humphrey is online saying that he wants to go on a glizzy tour. He wants to go to 50 states and try 50 glocks. It's going to be challenging for A.J. Brown. He typically stands outside the numbers a lot. And that's where PS2 thrives. CD Lamb said this is one of the best offenses he's been a part of.

And as much as I hate to say it, I can see why it says that. I just said all these positive things about the Cowboys makes me want to throw up. So I know it's taboo to put your hands on your kids. I know. But I had to whip your son the other day. When I evaluate rookies,

the best thing I can always say about the ones that are doing the best, they understand pass protection. Pass Pro is where you see some rookies, struggle. He's not doing that. I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day. On Saturday, the bills will play the Broncos. Underdog has Josh Allen at 220 and a half passing yards. Do you have him higher, lower, Mace? I'm going to get it perfect this time. I'm going higher. I'm going to go lower. Okay. James Cook is at 81.5 rushing yards. Do you have him higher, lower cam? Lower.

Lower. And Bo Nix is at 215-and-a-half passing yards. I got to go higher. I got to go higher. You know, alumni, duck bucks. Lower. Okay. Make sure you all download the Underdog app and you can make your picks too.

So we briefly spoke about it in our previous episode, but we saw the exchange between Eagles Coach Siriani and A.J. Brown. So Arabia, do you think A.J. Brown is going to be out of Philly or do you think he's just fine? What do you think is going on over there? I doubt that he's out of Philly only because of contractual obligations. In 2024, he signed a three-year at $96 million extension that runs through 2029. He's right now the sixth highest paid wide receiver in the NFL. If the Eagles get rid of him before June 1st, he would take the fourth largest single season dead cap hit in NFL history, the Eagles would, plus a $20 million

loss in savings. So just because of contractual obligations, I doubt that they'll kind of take that hit on their on their cap. But again, more thought experiments. He could go to Tennessee with Vrabel, you know, he started his career off in Tennessee with Rabel before he was traded. He could go to New England and be a really good asset with Stefan Diggs for for Drake May. He could go to Denver. You know, they have Cortland Sutton. But I think Cortland Sutton and A.J. Brown will be a fun dynamic duo to see. Josh Allen, obviously. need some weapons on offense. Lamar Jackson could be a really interesting quarterback for him, him being a duo with Zay Flowers and those receiving

tight-ins. So a few places that he could land that would be really, really interesting, but ultimately I don't think he's going anywhere because the Eagles just can't afford it. Yeah, 96 million was a lot to move. I think when it comes to AJ Brown, though he's a major, he's a major distraction to this team. They don't need to trade them, but they definitely need an intervention. Somebody got to sit down with him. They got to find out who he respects. I don't know if it's Jalen Hurts and Sequin both sit down with him, but somebody got to get in his ear pause because what he's doing is unacceptable. I don't know too early to tell, man. This niggas just lost two days ago.

I don't fucking know. I know he is a distraction. Everybody said it's right. I seen when they asked the nigger Jalen Hurts after the game, he said, we're in a good place. We spoke. I don't know What the fuck that mean? Jaylor hurts me saying, wow, shit, like, yo, if the sun is out, the sun don't come out, you can't shine. You know, he has a lot of, like, cryptic messages and shit. You know what I'm saying?

You can't win if you don't lose. Like, you know what I'm saying? You say, your type of crazy shit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, how you're gonna be a dog if you don't bark? You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't got time for his fucking quotes and all that shit, you know what I'm saying? So I don't fucking know what I'm saying.

So I don't fucking know what? that meant when he said, that they spoke. You know what I'm saying? He got all that crazy shit where I do know that he is a distraction. You're on the sideline reading the Bible. Not saying that people should read the Bible anytime they want to read the Bible, but you know that that's going to get the cameras on you and people talking about that as they should be talking about the game.

They're yelling at the coach. You're dropping passes. You want the ball all season. You get the ball in prime time. You're dropping the ball. You got commercials talking about I'm always old. And then you don't deliver. Whose fault is it?

Look, he's good when he's good, and he's not good when he's not good. But what happens is when you're AJ Brown, you're held to a high standard. You know, I'm not going to say Jamar chasing none of that. You're not Jamar, my nigga, but at the end of the day, you're held to a higher standard because you're that good.

Is he going to be with the Eagles? I have no idea. I don't know what's going on. You know, I know one thing, nobody expected the Eagles to go out this early, even though I think the 49ers are really good. but it's going to be some shifting around. Somebody's going to be the blame.

That's how it is. Somebody's always the blame. I don't know if it's going to be the OC, the defensive coordinator. I'm not saying any of them in jeopardy, but they're going to blame somebody. The coach, I'm not saying any of these people are getting fired. I'm just saying you have to blame somebody.

And right now, the biggest person to blame is A.J. Brown for them not winning the game the other day. Yeah, I think that's a real issue. him being on the side of the sideline reading the Bible, that would be like going in church with your shoulder pads. Like, that's not the place for that. While you're on the sideline, they need you to play football. That's what they're paying you for. You can do your soul winning outside of the time that you're playing football,

you know? That's not the time for that. Yeah. Okay. So from what we've seen and then what's ahead, Arabia, who do you think has the best path to the Super Bowl? I got to say Denver, only because right now the AFC runs through Denver. And typically, it's really hard for teams to come in and play at mile high.

And environment is really, really important. You breathe different in mile high. And again, this is a question that I asked some players because I've been like, is it really that hard to go to Denver and play in Denver? And they're like, yes, like the air is different. Conditioning is different when you're there. It's hard to go in there and play. Not just because of the crowd and fans and the noise,

but literally like you're at a higher altitude. So it's going to be harder to do that. So just based on home field advantage alone and the environment that they're in, I'm going to say Denver. And I know a lot of people disagree that defense wins championships. I know a lot of people are more on the offensive side now. But I'm a defensive girl. I still believe defense wins championships.

And I think their defense is super formidable. I think if Bow Nix can click for more than just the fourth quarter of a game, they have a really complete team with complimentary football. And Sean Payton, I think, puts his guys in really good positions. So I'm going to go Denver right now has the best path just based on their first round by week. They don't even have to worry about that one round of the playoffs. And then after that, they have home field advantage. Yeah, I actually think is the Patriots.

I think the Patriots have the better the better route or the Seahawks. I would go one of those two. And in fact, let me go with the Seahawks. I think the Seahawks have the best path to the championship because they could, could basically beat any of these teams very, very easily in that they proved in, they've proven during the season. Sometimes when you beat teams, you're not going to be able to beat that team again as easy because now they're looking for get back. But I think the people that they're playing with a wounded San Francisco team, they should get past them. And then you get the bears,

let's say the Bears beat the Ram. You got a young quarterback in that. And I'm not sure if he's to be on that stage where you're going to the Super Bowl. So that's why I gave them the nod for being the easiest path. I don't know. This is a really tough one because I think the NFC final four teams, these are some great games coming up. You know, you speak to the Seahawks and 49ers. I remember we, you know, Seahawks just beat the 49ers,

but I remember us playing in the championship losing a brand ice, but we beat them two times in a regular season. And it's hard to beat somebody consecutively like that, especially when something's on the line. I'm going to leave the NFC out of it because these games are really great. I want the Rams to actually come out to NFC if you actually, who I want.

But I don't know, man. I don't know. This is really tough. I really want, I would say the bills, but they didn't look the greatest. Didn't look like Josh Allen had a lot of help. I don't really trust Bo Nix that much, but the Broncos defense to Arabia's point is really, really good.

You got a Super Bowl coach and with the Broncos. So I'm going to make a choice. I'm not going to make a decision. If I got to go with Mesa's decision or Rabia's decision, I'm going to just go with Arabia's decision as well because of the Broncos having home field advantage. She made a great point. It isn't just football players.

It's basketball players. They're like, this fucking air in here is, it's hard to fucking breathe. If you ever look into Denver Nuggets jerseys, it's some numbers on there. It's like 5,123. And I'm like, what the fuck is on their jerseys? And so I googled it one day,

because I've been seeing it on their jerseys for the last couple years, and it's the altitude of where, how hard Denver is in the sky. So they actually have to altitude on the Denver Nuggets jersey. You see a lot of boxers. They go out there to train for their, to get their breath together for fights as well.

I really want the bills to win this game because I'm hoping Josh Allen makes it to the Super Bowl, when everybody's not there, but I'm just going off both you guys analysts, both of you guys points, which is really great. I can't make a decision, but I'm going to agree with Arabia on this. Okay. So I think we're all in agreement that we've seen. seen a lot of really good games because, you know, just something's just different about this wild card weekend. But Arabia, in your opinion, what do you think makes a wildcard weekend so

great? I think it's close games. I think it's a lot of lead changes. Besides the Sunday night Chargers Patriots game and then last night's Houston, Pittsburgh game, every other game during Wild Card weekend was won by the team who was trailing in the fourth quarter at the two-minute warning. That means these games are coming down to the wire to the last play. Sometimes it's exciting for the implications of a missed extra point or a missed field goal or unless just your team, then I'm sure you have a lot of anxiety. But these even seeing teams in the postseason that we didn't necessarily expect. We didn't necessarily expect a banged up 49ers team in the postseason. We didn't necessarily expect the bears in the postseason given the NFC North and who made it

and who's not there right now. Even seeding. I don't think anybody expected not only for the Patriots to win the AFC East, but for them to be the number one seed in the AFC with a buy, like a first round by. Like I don't think anybody expected that, actually, know that the Broncos are the number one in the AFC, but I don't think people expected the seeding even.

So that's even really exciting to see that and the way that things are playing out in the postseason. So I think it's close games. I think it's also nice to see some teams missing from the postseason that we've seen more recent. i.e., the chiefs aren't there, which is kind of nice that they've cleared out so we can have a chiefless postseason. I like that. So just kind of like it's refreshing and the way that these games are playing out and these really close games is also nice.

You see the hate that? I was going to ask you're paying on that. Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. She just, she hate niggins why they ain't even present. That's when that nigger really hate you. You ain't even present. And the niggie ain't on you.

That's one is great. Like, bro, I'm not even present, champ. Like, my goodness. That's the best time to hate. Yeah, that's the best time. I think what makes the weekend of a wild card so crazy is thinking about you not getting that wild card buy. Like, you know, why didn't we get the buy?

And then knowing that the team that's waiting for you, they're rested. So I think it makes people play with a extra, chip and with extra energy because they know they got to get it done because just next week they'll be playing that team that took their buy. And normally it's people that should have gotten the same buy. They was close enough to get it. But something happened.

So I think for me that's what makes it so crazy because you didn't get the buy. What makes it crazy? Like, it's just happy to be in the playoffs. Raby, look, Rabia is you kind of killing the day. You're doing your thing, Arabia today. You know what I'm saying? Appreciate you. Thank you.

Real happy to be here. Yeah, you're doing your thing today, man. You've been slacking lately, but you've been doing your thing. I'm sorry. Hall of niggins can't give you no credit. Yeah, haul of niggins. You can't give a full. You can't give you the full credit.

Not too much. Yeah, but look, I mean, every year is something different, but she made a great point. And all jokes aside, seriously, the teams that we, thought would be here is not here. Michael Irvin too, shout to Uncle Mike. Mike, he made some, he said this in the beginning of the season. I'll probably say four, five, six weeks in, when he's saying that this season's going to have a lot of new faces and you're not going to see the people that we're used to seeing towards the end of the season. The usual suspects aren't here.

And the usual suspects that are here outside of Matthew Stafford, I was saying, and I'm trying to think I don't have to have in front of me, Matthew, Stafford, Sean Payton as a coach. You know, Sean McVeigh, of course, been to Super Bowl. It doesn't even have Super Bowl experience. Players, as I'm talking about mainly, I've thought of a couple coaches. So just to have some new faces here and not know, like when the questions that just asked me previous before this particular take, I'm sitting here looking and I'm like, I can't make a decision. Because one week I'm sitting there saying, okay, look, the first.

49ers, them niggas look like they're about to do their thing. Brock Purdy's looking good. He's back from being hurt. Kittles is looking good. Yaya, y'all, yada. Then they have a chance to go into Seattle and have home field advantage. And think about what that meant for them. Not only home field advantage throughout the playoffs,

if they make it to the Super Bowl, the Super Bowl is actually in their stadium. But they stink it up and they lose. Then you also lose Kittles last week. So, you know, the, what's the word I'm looking for? The, I don't know the word I'm looking for at top of my head, but not knowing exactly who's going to win this year is more exciting than anything else. I don't know about Wild Card Weekend and all that,

but the fact that we don't have a definitive champion in our brain is one thing. You know, even if, like, let's say, for instance, sorry to bring them up again, Mace, but let's just say even if Kansas City, he was in it and they wasn't looking good, you were thinking your brain, now Patrick Mahone's gonna figure a way to get there. Yeah. No matter what, I don't know.

I don't give a fault. He's gonna figure a way like to get there or the Russ is gonna get them there or Taylor Swift's gonna get them there. Like that's what you would be thinking if they were in it, but they're not even in it to make all these speculations anyway. So I think that's the beauty of it this particular year

that we have no idea exactly who is gonna win. Yeah, and I think that's a great point from all y'all, especially like just adding on to kind of what Arabia said, because I know like we're not poking fun because like the chiefs are still a great team, but to see like the chief's not in this period, but like we're still enjoying watching like a Panthers game. But like it's interesting because I feel like on the NBA side,

if it's not as marketable team or a team that's not as big, like it's a huge different in viewership. Like if we see like the wizards go all the way, everyone's like, I don't really want to watch the Wizards, but a team like the Panthers, like we can actually enjoy watching those games. So that's like the real interesting thing, between NBA and NFL because I think people are still going to ride to the end.

No, the thing about football is just in comparison with football and basketball, because, you know, this nigger, I don't know how this nigger makes the show every other show with sin. He's mad that the NFL came in on Christmas because, you know, the NFL, you know, years prior just really played Thanksgiving. They didn't really play Christmas

unless it landed on NFL day. In the last two, three years, they caught a wave when it comes to the Christmas games. And this year's Christmas games were not as live as the NBA games. The NBA has some really good games this year on Christmas as opposed to teams that weren't going to make the playoffs

because I don't remember if it was Baltimore, Kansas City, whoever it was, we knew Patrick Mahomes was out. I forget who it was. More of the story is, it was some teams that wasn't really good. I didn't even watch the football games. I watched basketball on Christmas.

And we went to viewership, and the NFL had 27 million people watching football on Christmas, and basketball, their highest rate of gain was 8 million views on Christmas. And the basketball games were way better than the NFL games, but NFL is just America's sport. And when I talk to NFL players and people around the NFL that argue about this with other basketball players, they say it's so many games in basketball that, you know, you can make it up tomorrow, the day after, so on and so forth.

The build-up every week with the NFL from week to week, you're like, you're emotional. Yo, we lost, we're going to get it back next week. Then you win, and then you're on a high of the next week. It's a build-up every week to where basketball games, you have three, four, maybe five games in one week to where it's not as emotional because you're playing 82 games as a season as opposed to playing 17 games with football. But football numbers can be disputed as far as viewership is concerned. It's not even close, it's not even close a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, good point.

Okay, and last thing before we wrap, so a reporter is facing controversy for a message to Jags head coach Liam Cohn after their loss to the bills. So at the conference, she told him, I just want to tell you, congratulations on your success, young man. You hold your head up high. You guys have had a magnificent season. You did a great job out there today and you just hold your head up. Ladies and gentlemen, Duval, you the one.

So she was just giving him a lot of words of encouragement. So right now, the discussion is kind of like, do you think that was unprofessional? Like reporters shouldn't be able to go and say those things to coaches. Or do you think that in this day and age, maybe we need more of that compassion from the media? Arabia, what's your take on it? I just want to say that as somebody who kind of goes back and forth, between being credentialed media in those spaces at the Super Bowl, at the draft, all these things, and then also having the opportunity to be on a show like this where I can actually give my opinion.

I see the stark contrast between both worlds. What you Cam May Stat Nick are building with this is really keeping this industry modernized and push forward because I think this is what people want. People want to hear your opinion on the game. They don't want to always hear this robotic take of facts and stats and just asking these stale questions like they do on the sidelines. Hey, coach, what do you got to do to get the team to win the game? And then they hate the question and it's just like this awkward interview. So I say all that to say, when they hand you your credential when you're in these spaces, the expectation is that you don't give your opinion. The expectation is that you don't say, oh, that something was really good in your opinion or really bad in your opinion.

So from a professional standpoint, sure, technically, this was unprofessional and it's not what they look for you to do in these spaces. But at the end of the day, I think we see the industry changing because of shows like it is what it is, because you are handing a human being that credential. And if this person has covered the Jacksonville Jaguars for years, and this is one of the best seasons she's seen in a long time, this is a very emotional sport. It's going to bring that out of her. And God forbid the lady gives the head coach some credit for how, having a really good season. May she brought up a point where head coaches come into situations. It kind of turned the program around.

We saw Liam Cohen do just that. We've seen Dave Panales do something very similar. So I don't blame her for how she feels. I understand from a technical standpoint that you aren't supposed to do that. When I go to these networks, I'm a commanders fan, but I'm supposed to be unbiased. I can't say we did this or our quarterback did that.

So she wasn't supposed to do it. But I think we need to start changing the conversation and changing the tone of some of these things. not get people slack for being positive in these in these arenas. I think I think it was expected. Um, when you look at her, you know, being a positive black woman, it looks like she probably go to church. Um, she had real good glasses on. Uh, high, her hair is really nice. So it looked like, you know, like a mother of the church would be talking to somebody that

just had a hard day. That's what it looks like to me from my vantage point. So she didn't do anything that I didn't expect, especially in the city of Jacksonville, that is like, I don't know how to really describe it, but it's something you really hardly ever see. Somebody black, encouraging somebody white in Jacksonville. And all those that have lived in Jacksonville know what I'm talking about. That was just rare in any situation. So I think I thank her for doing that. Yeah, it sounds like somebody auntie after they little enough, you got beat up.

Don't worry about it, baby. You gonna be all right. That's how she looked, dude. Yeah, I didn't see, I just heard when she asked the question, but when I heard it, I said, that's a, I didn't even see it. I said, that's somebody black. I already knew about her voice. And that was somebody that sounded exactly like somebody who and her family got beat up, and she told, yeah, that's what I thought she looked like. That's exactly what I thought she looked like.

Sound like somebody in her family got beat up, and they were out there told him, don't worry about it. You lived to fight another day. You ain't die. You ain't got. It made you stronger. It made you.

Yeah. Yeah, all right. You'll be back. You just got a workout, and you just got to get stronger, baby. That's what I got for me. I got, what's that big mama's house, all that mama's. I got, I got, I got, I got,

I smell sweet potato pie. I smell porn bread when I heard that. I smelled soul food. That was the movie I'm looking for it. I smelled all that shit when she was talking. I said, that is somebody who says, listen, man, we gonna be all right. But also what I got from that is this, that look,

she was basically encouraging him to say, and look, the way, real quick, the way he answered, it was like a kid like, yes, ma'am. Yeah. Yes, ma'am. You're right, ma'am. He felt exactly without coming from how I'm trying to explain it. But at the same time, you know, I've seen somebody doing an interview.

I was really, this kid was funny. He was about maybe 14 years old, again, 13, 14, coming out the Eagles game. And he's like, yo, man, you got to get rid of coach, you know, AJ Brown, I want him going. I love him, but I want him going. And this kid said, yo, man, you know, our coach, he's like a hamburger, man. hamburger man when you put it on the grill you know you're cooking on one side and

but you're raw another yeah yeah yeah make if you find the clip I'm gonna say you the clip so we can put it up man yes this was a huge let down this was my Christmas present and I got a loss oh no you probably would rather had coal huh yeah probably I'm feeling two of two things a I want AJ Brown packing his bags and I want him somewhere else that is not here I love you, AJ, but, like, you can't make those drops in that game. And I also want Kevin Petulow flipping burgers at, like, the local McDonald's or something. I don't care.

Why do you say that? Whenever he's an offensive coordinator, it's like he's flipping burgers. One side, he's cooking, one half he's cooking, and the other half is completely raw. You know, but that goes to show the expectations of some cities. In Philadelphia, we just won the Super Bowl. We've been going to Super Bowls, and now he's going to Joe Brown. they went to coach going, so on, and so forth, to where you have somebody in Jacksonville saying,

we ain't been this far in a long time. We got a bright young, we got a nice young quarterback, a nice core, listen, hold your head time. How we got time. And it just goes to show from city to city how things changed. When you think about New York, the Knicks, right? These niggas go crazy like they won the championship.

Yeah, they give a niggas streets and all that. Yeah, they named streets after niggins and all types of shit. and didn't even get to the championship and then go crazy. So it varies from city to city depending on the expectations of your team. But I thought that was great to watch the encouragement that she did give the coach, because I felt on that.

Like, y'all are young, y'all got time. Y'all usually don't be here like that. Congratulations. Yeah, this would be a good clip for Lou Young to do over. He normally does the comedy. I would love to see him do, do the white guy right here. Liam.

I meant coach, Coach Liam. Yeah. I just want to add to that really quick, because I thought it was a really dope moment, but I don't see a problem with it, but I also don't see a problem with a lot of stuff that people trip about. So maybe that's just me, but like,

definitely in traditional journalism, they tell you, like Arabia was saying, like, you can't be biased, you can't really have a reaction, don't let people know your real thoughts. Like, even me, like, being on the show, I had to unlearn a lot of things because, like, I was so wired to, like,

not having an opinion because my professor would get on my eye. She was like, you can't have an opinion, you can't do this because that is what some people look for. But it's just like people are going to have opinions. You literally can't mask what you feel, what you see. And then definitely in this situation, she felt compelled to say that. So if that was on her conscious and she felt like she needed to say that in that moment, I don't have a problem with it.

So I'm happy that she did. But now we see it's a big storyline when she was just saying how she felt. So I don't know. I think we need a little bit more of that. I'm not saying you gotta be super nice to everybody, but if that's how you feel, it is okay to say how you feel. I just don't think- And I'm glad you came around, Statt, because that was concerned.

And listen, she's a homer, though. When she said Duval again, she's a home, she's from the Duval one name, like. Yeah. Like, look, I'm not going to work in Wall Street Journal, thing. I work here. Yeah, yeah. She made that clear. Yeah.

Yeah, I completely agree with you, Statt, too. Like, because I know for a while when I first started, it was like, oh, it took me a while to come up my show. In some regard, it is sometimes difficult to co-switch between, you know, my different arenas that I'm in. But to be honest, like, I think this is a microcosm of what we see in these rooms. And the reason why, like, this backlash is indicative of a lot of people being uncomfortable still with black women in these spaces. Because, Cam, you said that this was very comforting to you. You said, you smell the cornbread and you smelled the, like, it just gave you that auntie feeling.

It gave you nostalgic feelings. It gave you these good feelings. But for some people, it's like, why is she here? Who gave her that credential? Why is she saying that? Like, it's like, it's okay if someone may, I honestly feel like if a white man said it in a certain way, like, good job coach.

I mean, just hell of a seating. And dude, that's how I feel. That's how I feel. I'm like, oh, hell of a coach season, hell of a season coach. I think you did an awesome job. Like in a certain way, it wouldn't be a problem. But because she said it how she said it,

the way she said it, now it's an issue. And I think it's just indicative the way that things kind of go on these spaces sometimes. Yeah. And just to add on that, because I felt that completely, even just like the way you say things too, like, I remember when I would like present myself or like do a speech or something like that, they'd be like, oh, she's a little out there. I mean, to everybody else, they're like, oh, she seems so like, da-da-da-da. I'm like, dang, I'm just, that's just how I am. But to some people is perceived a different way. So literally in certain rooms and we've seen it on a broader level because it went viral, they're saying, this is completely unprofessional. We just can't have fans up there in the press room asking.

Like, she's still a reporter just because she said her feelings does not make her unprofessional, but to some people it is. So it's kind of crazy how that works, but it's how it works for a lot of people. But at the end of the day, this is my last take on it. This is why it shows like this and other shows that are winning. Because people want the same old thing, or pardon me, people do the same old thing. And when you do something outside,

at the box, some time people like, that's refreshing. I'm tired of seeing the same format on this show, on this channel, on this station. It's been going on for 70, 80, 90 years, my nigger, when this thing is going to change? The other day, it was so dope. I wish they, I wish it was some type of way they can have an alternative button for certain games, right? Because Snoop Dogg announced the Clippers game. And I was sitting there like, y'all would love for Snoop Dogg to announce the NBA games like commentating through the game

when you're commentating the whole game. And Steve Kerr is good in the fight. He's like, look at Steve Curd, Wildcat coming out that dude, Arizona Wildcat. They don't forgot. Okay, Steve. And I was like, yo, this was funny. They was like, yo, we're in Englewood.

You know what time it is. Like, it was really dope to hear Snoot's point of view. Even when Snoot was doing boxing, analyst, when Jake Paul first started, he fought Nate Robertson, he was like, oh, Lord. date. When Nate got knocked out,

he's like, oh my God. He said, don't play boxing. Yeah, yo, it was, I was like, yo, I would want to see Snoop do these games and these fights as opposed to traditional people doing them, man. So I wish it was a way that you could be like, yo, who do you want to listen to? Analyst the game, traditional, or you want to hear this?

They actually do it on ESPN sometimes on Monday Night Football. We're on ESP1. ESPN 1 is the traditional. And then if you go to ESPN 2, it's Peyton Manning and his brother analyzing the game and they have guests on, Kevin Hart, so on, and so forth. It ain't us the way we talk,

but it's something different. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's dope to see. And shout out to y'all for being pioneers for this because, trust me, like that. You guys literally started like a revolution, like it's a whole new world, which is dope to see.

But we still the best to do it. Okay. That is all the time that we have for today. Raven, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you so much for having me. Sorry about your Steelers. Okay. You know, next year.

That is all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is.