IT IS WHAT IT IS - MA$E & CAM'RON GIVE ADVICE TO THE YOUNG ATHLETES OUT THERE ON HOW TO DEAL WITH WOMEN | EP.72

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

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Hey Kim. I'm like, Oh, all right. I was just saying, don't you was on your Bill Belichick. You came in like Bill Belichick, man. Man, this news and these notes had me a little... Feeling crazy today. How you doing, man? You all right?

Flustered? Yeah, better now. A little flustered, man? Okay. A lot going on. There is a lot going on, so let's start. Okay. Anthony Edwards offered a public apology after an OnlyFans model dropped text messages of him encouraging her to get an abortion after she found out she was pregnant.

Anthony is already expecting a child with his current girlfriend. So first, thoughts on her releasing the messages. There's a couple things. So it depends on the context. What happens is usually before a female releases text messages publicly, they try to have a conversation

and the conversation with the person that's there supposed to be baby father doesn't go right and it's usually a little bit of threats involved uh if you don't do this or don't do that we're gonna do this and um that's how to me that's how the text messages usually goes. I wouldn't say threats, it's a negotiation. I use not to be so close to home or not close, pardon me, that's the wrong

word to use, not close to home, but not to be mentioning anybody's former employees up here or anything like that, or partners, but with Puff and Cassie, to me, my point of view on that situation is that didn't get public until the negotiation

behind closed doors didn't go right. And then it becomes, yeah, I want 30 million, I want 10 million or whatever the number may be. I think these conversations going privately, when the female doesn't get the way what she wants or she feels she's being treated unfairly, then she's like, I'm going to take this public because you're not treating me fair.

Looking at the text message here, I see it's a video. I'm just looking at the first few text messages. It says, obviously, the female saying, obviously, you've been through this before, but just by your action. He said, I'll send you money. Anthony Edwards says, I'll send you money to help you out.

She says, I didn't ask for it, but okay. And then, you know, blah, blah, blah. He says, I don't want kids. Let's handle this like grownups. And I'm pretty sure it goes on and on and on. Hey, man, sounds like she tried to negotiate with you. She obviously wants your baby. Just signed $235 million.

I hear it was $100,000 in all for it. That math to her probably ain't mathin', and now she puts her business out there, and that's just how it goes. What do you feel about it, man? It's a lot. This is probably one of those situations that I want. You know, I'm normally comical, but I can't be comical on this one

because when I think about it, if a young lady reach out to you and say that she has a baby and you you you kind of know it's your baby or let's say allegedly you know it's your baby um to say you do have the right to say that you don't want kids but it's it's so many things that's layered in this conversation i don't know if we even have time to deal with it all. For one, he states that, according to what I gathered, that he apologized

because he said it went against his beliefs, right? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, the apology after he was saying, basically, like, you know, a woman should get the choice

to choose what she wants because it's her baby. Like, he was basically apologizing because he felt like he handled it insensitively. OK. So, yeah, I'm and I don't I don't want to throw him under the bus. But, you know, wherever he stands, he got to stand consistently there. If he's going to go with his beliefs and his beliefs wouldn't have had him with her. You know, so, you know, it's so many ways you could

take this, but let me, let me get to the matter at hand. The matter at hand is that the girl is pregnant. The girl is pregnant. She shows you a baby or, or the evidence that there is a baby. And it is very insensitive to just try to get rid of the baby and put money on it. You know, it says it says a lot about where we are as a society, not just what Anthony Edwards just period that people think money can can like wash away the wrong that they do. And, you know, I don't claim to be a person has has always done things 100% the right way, but right is right and wrong is wrong. Well, just to be on the flip side, when you're saying money can wash away certain things and certain problems,

sometimes, and I'm not saying this is the situation, I'm being general, sometimes that's what the females out to get anyway it isn't even genuine about them wanting to have the baby it's about maybe they see who they're having the baby with and they're saying okay this is a ploy to get money and like I said

I don't know this situation I'm not saying this is the Anthony Edwards and the female that he's dealing with right now in this situation this This is their situation. But this is why Deion Sanders wanted us to come talk at his school. Because it is females out there like that. And I'm glad you shared that because that's why it seemed like I was stumbling with the conversation because that is the other side of it. because that is the other side of it.

But as the person who's the guy making 200 million, if you know that this young lady is only sleeping with you just for money, then that kind of make you have to make a better decision because why would you go into a setup and then get upset that you're being set up? You went in a setup knowing it was a setup and now you're upset that there's a setup. So I'm saying this speaks to how dark the world

is right now. That people this is where we are at. That people are actually even like Cam was saying if that is the case, not that this lady is doing that, that we're at a place where people have a baby and just want money right that's crazy oh but but you know the thing about it is mace when you're saying you know you've

been set up obviously he doesn't know he's being set up i mean who walks into a setup unless he's just stupid i don't care if it's a robbery or anything else but i think what happens is stupid. I don't care if it's a robbery or anything else, but I think what happens is, pardon me, a lot of these athletes and when we, like we said, I'm speaking roundabout. I'm not about this

situation. A lot of times these athletes have been popping since they've been 7, 8, 9, 10 years old and been that guy since high school because they're going to the pros. So a lot of times, and no disrespect to you athletes,

none whatsoever, you're green. Yeah. You thinking that females be liking you for you and not saying that some of them don't, but they see the potential of having a better life. You know, you sit there and be like,

don't walk into the setup. It's mad niggas got set up. We just talked about Dwight Howard born in a cheerleader his first week of getting to the Orlando Magic and then she ended up being a stripper

dancing all over the place, everything else, but he had a baby with her. And then we could go, like I said, the list goes on of a bunch of people. Was that a setup? To me, it was. You're never going to say, no female's going to be like, you've been set up, unless you catch her.

Nobody's going to admit it's a setup. Nobody's going to be like, you know I set you up, nigga. It's like, nobody's ever going to say it's a setup. But I'm pretty sure that if you're in position to be around somebody with hundreds of millions or a position to have a baby with somebody who doesn't have any money, you know who you're around. You know what I'm saying? And listen, this is not to every female because some of you females are genuine. And this female, by her text messages, it seems like she's genuine because he offered

money and she said, I didn't ask you for any money. So just from that alone, I see that it's not about the money with her, but at the same time, you did put the messages out publicly for people to know. So that means it wasn't being handled behind closed doors. I have mixed feelings about this particular situation because everything doesn't have to be internet. Everything doesn't have to be social media. Everything doesn't have to be for everybody to see. And even if he isn't doing what you want,

this is why you get a lawyer or this is why you get consultation to figure out how to go about it. But once you make it public, everybody's in your business. Now it is what it is with our lead off conversation on a Tuesday morning talking about this conversation because you made it public. I said this a while ago, it's a lot of shit and I'm not comparing every female's different. It's a lot of things that I did a hundred percent wrong when it came

to my child's mother. My child's mother, you don't know who she is unless I want you to know who she is. She didn't say I cheated on her publicly. I admitted that I cheated on her publicly. She didn't say, and say, Kim isn't doing this.

Cause I mean, I did everything for my son, but it's a bunch of shit when females are mad that they can put out publicly. But, um, I'm just giving the other side of the coin cause Macy's on heads and I do tails, paws. But at the end of the day, I'm just giving both scenarios. Yeah, I think I appreciate you for what you're sharing.

And I know this is a sensitive topic. Even like what you just shared, Cam, shows that you have major growth and major maturity in that area. I just think that we're we're at a time where where people got to grow up. You know, I'm saying especially as men, because they're dealing with life changing money, but they're still thinking like kids. And I say that from a place of being a guy who made childish mistakes, being a guy that hasn't done everything right. But somebody got to say this, like, for real, for real. Niggas ain't thinking like if you got 200 million, you got to be looking for the setup. And especially if you're having a baby already with somebody else, you got to understand that I'm a different

guy. I got to move different. I can't move like, like I'm nobody. If I'm somebody, this is, that's what more so what I'm speaking of. Cause once, once you get the girl pregnant, everything is in her court. It's not, it's no longer in your court. You're on defense. Well, Mason, and I'll put this in translation.

For real. Your pull-out game is weak. That's what that nigga Mason said in a nice context. Stop going raw or get your pull-out game together. It's only a few families that have good luck with a weak pull-out game. Of course, the Waynes brothers, you know, the Giannis family, you know, your pull-out

game is weak. Then that's on you to be in this predicament or strap up. One or the other, you got to realize who you is, who you are when you're walking around with that type of contract. So Mason's not going to say it. I'll say it. Oh, no. I was going to say

it. I mean, he's in between. Pause. It's like, if you're going to be a savage, be a savage. Or if you're going to be a good guy, be a good guy like me. I'm working on myself. I want to be good. I want to be better. So I try to put myself around better things. You know what I'm saying? I don't always do the right

thing, but I'm definitely working in that direction. So it's just certain things but I'm definitely working in that direction. So it's just certain things you can't put yourself in that position. Do what Slim Thug did. I mean, it's early, and I know you having a kid with your girlfriend, but get a vasectomy. Slim Thug got a vasectomy?

He announced it. I don't know his personal business he put it he put a reason I noticed he put it on Instagram and he like

y'all I was trying to be serious I'm just saying I'm not I'm not joking he admitted that he's like yo y'all won't catch me no more

see I like pause not to be that's being responsible that's what I'm talking about he knows he knows he ain't gonna pull out

pause he just clipped his self yeah exactly he took his self out the game responsible. That's what I'm talking about. He knows. He knows. I'm not pulling out. He just clipped himself. Yeah, exactly. He took himself out the game. And I know you're young and maybe want to have more kids. But at the end of the day, if you know your pull-out game is weak, pause. Yeah, and that's going to cost you a lot. That's going to cost you a lot.

I don't think guys really think. That's going to cost you a lot. If you I don't think guys really think, like, it's going to cost you a lot. If you just sign for $200 million, my goodness. Yeah, and not only that, on his Instagram,

on his Instagram, Anthony Edwards, he's actually, maybe we'll play the clip if we could, Nick, when we get over this. But what he did is that when he signed his extension, pause, for $260 million, he's in his bed with his girlfriend smiling, saying, I ain't going to let a chick take none of this money. All you females who think y'all finna come up off a nigga from signing the contract. She the only one.

No, her. Boy, don't laugh. She the only one that's coming up. Look, she new to the table. So I'm a little green for her. Everybody else's delight is the same color as my damn jacket. Hey, you talking talking about You feel me Didn't age well

Cause Cause uh That's what I'm talking about Cause it's robbery And I know ladies appreciate this It's robbery for the one who's right You know what I'm saying That she gotta share

That now with somebody else That wasn't down for the one who's right. You know what I'm saying? That she got to share that now with somebody else that wasn't down for the cause. You want to use the word robbery? So you, I thought, I'm just go, stop going raw, nigga.

Like, yo, bro, you got a lot of money. Like, when you're in that position, then he said he don't want no kids and all that. Look, man, like you said,

we'd probably be here for about an hour going through this. I'm going to finish and say this. Just off the text messages I've seen, she said it ain't about money.

But then at the same time, she puts the text messages publicly. I don't know. That's like seesaw shit. Then Anthony Edwards says he doesn't want to have a baby

but he's about to doesn't want to have kids but he's about to have a kid about to have two kids lastly I'll say this the Minnesota Timberwolves

completely said look we don't approve any of this and we have nothing to do with this it'll be monitored yada yada yada

but they basically did their own disclaimer saying this is so and so matter i just had it up i won't read it verbatim but basically in a nutshell pause they just said uh we don't support this decision yada yada yada you know anthony i was our player we but monetize it close. And that's that. But as an organization, this is kind of back to what we were talking about maybe last week or the week before, not this particular situation where we sit there and say, a lot of people may not be the best people in the world or make the right decisions or so on and so forth, but they're just good basketball players. We talk about media when people was talking about the media. You know, he may not be the best person in the world, but is he a good basketball player? Yeah. But what happens is when it affects a franchise's bottom line, then they have to make decisions. So now, you know, just use an example of, oh, y'all are supporting babies out of wedlock,

this, that, and depending on what cities and you're going to have people who don't with that belief that, oh, we can't give y'all marketing dollars anymore. We can't invest into your franchise. I think the Minnesota Timberwolves, as long as it doesn't mess up their bottom line, that's a statement they had to say. But as long as they don't miss out on no money, I don't think they ever gonna have a problem with it.

Any franchise. It's people who got, who brought murderers back on. I'm not saying murderers, but hit and run drivers. People who died in certain situations and they've been back on the field the not saying murderers, but hit and run drivers, people who died in certain situations and they've been back on the field the next year.

Yeah. I have a lot of thoughts, but I'm just... Give us your thoughts, that's what I'm telling you. I'm just trying to... I'm loaded with pause, a lot of thoughts as well.

I would like to hear from a female point of view. I just have a lot of views because I just feel like everybody needs to do better with the people they decide to mess with like in her shoes it's like you're saying like you know you thought it was going to be more than that or whatever the case may be but it's like at the same time he had a girl a public girlfriend and he's expecting a baby with her

and then on his part it's like clearly you didn't really know her that well to not know how her reaction would have been. And then my last point, I'm just going to keep it short and sweet. I just feel like initially the conversation did not need to be had on text. That should have been something that would have, should have been a phone call immediately because you're putting yourself in a position to quote unquote, get set up when you're expressing your feelings and emotions, knowing that you're a public figure. Obviously people are going to talk about what you do. So any type of business that you put out there, especially when it's written, you're setting yourself up for it to be posted, not saying that he knew that she was going to do that, or that's what she expected to do. I just feel like you're putting yourself in a deeper hole. So now we're at a point where he's like, OK, I'm going

to send you one hundred thousand to get it done. The end of the day, this decision is still up to her whether she wants to do it or not. You know, that is a woman's choice. But to get what done? He told her to get an abortion. So he sent her one hundred thousand dollars, which I mean, it doesn't cost that much, but I guess to just deal with everything else just to pay her off, which is still like a messed up situation because it's like you can't just pay me off to do something like that's going to be her choice. So it's like I don't wish for anybody to be in this situation because it's just sad, but they're both going to have to kind of deal with the consequences because now her name, at least in my opinion, is forever going to be tied to this situation. And if she does decide to, you know, continue with the pregnancy, that's going to be his child forever. And that's just kind of how it goes. But I feel like these situations happen time and time again.

And there's so many like warnings like, hey, be careful who you decide to mess with just because you don't know the way that it's going to go. But people still I mean, she obviously they're not thinking with their head they just think with other parts so yeah it's a very interesting I'm all thinking with their head they know what they're doing and I'm not saying this particular situation but some of them myself yeah I know it's a sensitive time and all that but let's stop acting like some people

don't get lined for this like I said we don't get lined for this when I say lined up by females

yeah that's what I said yeah no I'm saying I'm not disagreeing with you I was saying but we started talking about

something else but this is why Deion Sanders wanted us to come talk at his school to his football players because they're making, he doesn't want them to make similar mistakes. When you're in the NFL, not necessarily

the NBA, before you get to the NFL, it is a six-day class on how to avoid certain females. Seriously, so you don't mess up your money. They give a whole course on this for a week on how to throw your condoms away,

time out, flush this, that, and the third. It's a six-day course in the NFL for people to beware of certain situations like this. So you don't bump into this. Maybe the NBA needs to get this same policy that the NFL has with the conduct of not getting

lined up. Because the NFL, they don't call it getting lined up, but they have a whole course, a five, six day course of not being lined. And that goes back to not being disrespectful to being a little bit green. Like me and Mace and

I could say Chicago, I could say New York, I could sit here and say LA to a certain extent, Detroit. When you say you're from the city, it's one thing, but being inner city is a whole nother thing. So when you're a celebrity in Iowa, and there's no disrespect to any town or talent, any town that's not inner city. You grow up wild fast when you live in the inner city. Like, it's moving. When niggas say a New York minute, that

shit is a real thing. Shit is moving a hundred miles per minute, realistically. So you don't, when you're living in a rural area or the suburbs and you grew up being Italian, everybody from the town comes to see you, you don't necessarily know what these inner city, and they don't have to be inner city,

what these females are up to. And I'm pretty sure I can speak for Mace on this, but it's going to be hard to get over on a nigga like us. It's not going to be that simple. And you could be genuine. I tell a lot of people this all the time. When I meet you, you're down 30. You may have done nothing wrong to me.

You have to work your way to zero for me to even put you above zero. You are negative 30 when I meet you. I don't trust you. I don't believe you. I don't think what you're saying is true. And it may all be true, but you have to work to gain my trust from down 30 to get to zero, to get back up to maybe 100 one day, if it ever reaches that point. Excellent point. Okay. So in wake of the Anthony Edwards news, I think you can see a lot of young athletes are dealing with drama off the court, right? So do you guys feel like NBA stars have enough guidance?

Not even just NBA, NFL have enough guidance. And what advice would you offer these athletes? I mean, I wanted to listen because I definitely wanted to hear what Killer had to say. And I think that's what makes us like, um, extraordinary together because he speaks from one end of the spectrum. I speak from the other and we both have similarities and, and history that makes a lot of this go together. However, I really believe that the item that's missing, as much as people would joke about it, is God. That's what they're

missing. It's like they're trying to get every other piece, but when you slice life into eight slices, you got finances, you got family, you got health, you got all these things. But God is one of those pieces or spiritual is is a part of one of those pieces. And when you take that out, you really don't end up with the life you're supposed to have. So no matter how cool you think you are, how tough you think you are, even gangsters pray. You know what I'm saying? Even gangsters pray, you know what I'm saying? So I think what we're looking at is one of the first generations that don't have that piece that seems so small. But pause is just like if you got a bike with no brakes or you got you playing football with no helmet, you missing that that one piece that that that is not there.

And in all of these conversations we're having, that's going to be the piece that's missing all the way through. It's crazy. But that's why when I walked in here, I just felt like so, oh, it's crazy. Because I was just thinking like, it's crazy that that's not acknowledged.

Like, but we sit there and say he's about to lose 45 million because he didn't have that piece. You know, it's crazy. Absolutely. I definitely believe in God, and I definitely pray all the time. Maybe not to the level of what Mace is, but I absolutely agree with that.

And I'm very superstitious as well. So I'm super superstitious. Yeah, like a nigga says his gut instinct, but that's what I'm talking about. Like our generation had that. Like that's what I'm trying superstitious. Yeah, like a nigga says it's God's instinct, but that's what I'm talking about. Like, our generation had that. Like, that's what I'm trying to say. It's not that anybody got to be over spiritual. I'm saying this is that generation

that doesn't have even that, like what Killer said, I believe in God. We looking at the generation that don't have that. That's very true. See, the thing, and not to cut you off, but see, the thing is this. It's like this for me, my opinion, yo.

It's like, these kids have mothers and fathers who are well off and everybody's not coming from the struggle. I'm so big on praying because I didn't think I was going to live to be 16 years old.

I remember I was 15 years old, and I'm like, damn, when I'm around here, 40 wolves up the block. Yeah, you made it to 18. You did it. Yeah, like in the 90s, I'm like, damn, I'm probably going to die. This is real. No kidding. I'm like, yo, I ain't going to make it to 16.

These niggas killing these niggas every day. I got a bad attitude. I'm not having it. I'm going, yo, I ain't going to make it to 16. These niggas killing these niggas every day. I got a bad attitude. I'm not having it. I'm going to end up getting killed. So I always pray. But at the same time, these kids is not going with through what niggas had to go through. When we grew up,

they got parents who's not, maybe not be the richest, but they're, they're situated, you know, they got good jobs. They're not here to live in check to check like certain people. Not saying that all families are like that,

but we just was talking about Marvin Harrison Jr. He could go back to school when Maurice Claret was up here because he's not struggling for a dollar. You know what I'm saying? He had to go after one year. Yeah, you know, so at the end of the day, my thing is this. Had to go after one year.

Yeah, you know, so at the end of the day, my thing is this. It's no guidance, but it's back to the Gary Coleman syndrome as well. If you, even if your parents are well off, they're not always going to listen to their parents because they may feel they're making more than their parents. So when you're sitting there for guidance, like me personally, it's only a few niggas that could tell me anything growing up. Maybe about four or five niggas that could tell me anything growing up. Maybe about

four or five niggas. And they may not even been coaches. Because some coaches was cool, but they didn't have no money. Or some coaches maybe know how to coach, but they'll tell us they were sniffing kilos last year or two years ago or whatever. Sometimes, even though they were drug dealers

that I looked up to, they had a bigger plan and didn't want to necessarily be drug dealers and take their money and do good shit with it. As far as guidance, who are these niggas looking up to? Sometimes you got to be your own guidance and say, look, this ain't right. Or look for me, my biggest thing as far as God is growing up and even today, looking at other people's mistakes. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not doing that.

Oh, he did that. I'm not, I can't fuck with that. Oh, I ain't going to do that. Sometimes you can't blame it on I didn't have a father figure or nobody was there for me. You got to look there and say to yourself,

yo, I don't want to be go broke like, and I'm not disrespect to none. This is just documentaries. Lose my money like Charles Sprewell. Lose my money like Antoine Walker. Lose my money like MC Hammer. And I'm not saying these people don't have money today.

I'm just stories of people who had tens of millions of dollars, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars and don't have that anymore. You know, a lot of times niggas be like, yo, can I hold some? Can I borrow this? Can I hold this? And I be like,

yo, you have $50 million at one point. I don't know. I'll have a problem lending you anything. If you have $50 million, yo, you just can't budget your money. Or $100 million and you want to borrow something, I can't be lending you bread

and you fumbled 100 million dollars what i do want to do is give a big shout out to those niggas in seattle though yeah because those are the best they have a um a system a system you know a clergy system is the word i was gonna use of, of how the next NBA player looks out for the next up-and-coming NBA player. And they keep that going and going. And Jamal Crawford talked about it when he was on the show here. If you didn't hear Jamal Crawford talk about it, it was dope because I already knew about it through jingles and through mace on how Doug Christie will look out for Jamal Crawford

when he gets to the NBA. When Jamal Crawford gets to the NBA, he'll look out for Brandon Roy. Brandon Roy gets to the, and I may be wrong in the order, but Brandon Roy looks out for Jason Terry. Yeah, Jason Terry. And then he looks out for Nate Robinson. Nate Robinson looks out for Murray. And the list goes on

and on. So those are the best role models and guidance you can listen to. And the reason why that works is because you're looking at somebody that wants to be in the same field that you're in. So they're going to listen to you to see what they can do to be in the NBA as well. And I think that's a great system. A lot of teams, cities, and anybody who has inner city talent or not inner city talent, talent around the country should look at this system because it may not just have to be for sports. It could be about life.

Okay. I want to say what both of you guys said is super, super dope because I know we come up here and joke a lot about a lot of things, but this is like a very real conversation that needed to be had. Cause I mean, to Ken's point, like influencers are very important. And even to your point, Mace, like a lot of people haven't been able to build their relationship with God or, you know, whatever they decide to believe in. It's important. Cause that's not even said, especially from people with big influences. So make sure y'all are really listening to what they're saying. Cause they're giving you a lot of truth that isn't said a lot moving along the Raptors played the Hornets beating them 114 to 99 ahead of the game Miles Bridges was denied entry into Canada due to legal situations and essentially a tweet

Miles Bridges tweeted he got denied in the six so thoughts on the situation and the Raptors win. Here we go again. Everything, that's what I said. Like when I was on my way here today, this is just, I felt extremely overwhelmed with every situation. Like being kind of the same situation is that you're trying to, you're trying to advance yourself and great success, even like what Cam was talking about. Every person that has ever had great success have had an inner image of that success first. So that's where it comes from. So a lot of times we're just looking at a lot of the outward situations that are happening, but it's coming from somewhere. looking at a lot of the outward situations that are happening, but it's coming from somewhere.

And it's just crazy to keep having the same conversation. Because even though this is slightly different, it's the same thing. It involves a young black guy with money. It involves a young lady, right? Children and some crazy behavior, right? Children and some crazy behavior, right? And like Cam said, the, um, how do you say it, killer? The, um,

pocket watching. He's the hustler. He's the pillow talking. And betrayal. Back slapping and betrayal. This is exactly what we're constantly watching. So even when he gets to the States,

now he can't go into Canada and get another bag because of a decision that Zab hit me up. For another decision that he made involving a young lady. Is that his wife that he went through the domestic thing with? Yeah, I think it's his baby mom. Or his baby mom. Same thing. So,

I'm going to make myself available. Pause this. Start doing some counseling. In that situation, is he guilty? Did he cop out? No contest? No contest.

Yo, get Drake number. He get anybody in there, bro. You got a problem getting into Canada? You got to be cool with Drake. I got a felony. Look, let me tell you something about Canada. I'm not talking about

the situation with Miles Bridges or nothing. I'm just giving you an advice on getting into Canada. I got denied. Mad times going into Canada because I have a felony. Canada, you can't just roll up into Canada because them niggas will pull out your whole history of crime. Canada has, you can't run

into Canada. You need to be cool with Drake. Or you need to, what I did before I was cool with Drake is I entered the rehabilitation program. It's a program they put you through up there. It costs about $7,000. And you have to go through a rehabilitation program. I think it's three hours, an hour each time.

It's some online shit. But at least it'll get you into Canada. It's a lot of money in Canada. And it's fun, fresh food, nice females, good atmosphere. A lot of people don't know Canada is dope. Now, outside of what Mesa said, I'm just giving, I agree 100%

with what Mesa said. I'm just giving, don't think, this ain't just Miles Bridges. Anybody who think they could just go up to Canada, like we're going to go to Canada and you got felonies

or you got a history of crime or you got some open cases, you're not going to get in. I've been to Canada and I've been back there with customs for hours and they walked me right back to my flight and said, you won't come in here.

Canada don't play that shit. You might slip through the cracks, pause, but if not, if you don't have your shit together when you go to that custom agent and you look nervous and you start stuttering, you'll be in the back. They'll even stop you in Canada for child support. If you're going through a dispute for child support, they'll stop you. Man, I was in customs, man, in Canada.

And I already had my rehabilitation papers so I could go through. They just put me through the ringer. I ended up getting in anyway. But I was back there with this Asian couple and they was just hounding on how they was about to put her through x-ray or type of shit because in China

you can only have one baby and some people act like they go on vacation to go somewhere else so they can have more than one baby so customers are aware of that you know if you have a second baby in Asia it costs you 60, 70, 80 thousand dollars000, $80,000.

Me and Steph Marbury was talking about that. And sometimes people from Asia go to other countries to have their kid. I'm just sharing a story that I seen when I was actually in customs for a few hours. But don't think you just go into Canada. Now, what they're doing is, to me, they're making an example out of Miles Bridges, like NBA or not NBA. If we didn't let him in, do you think we're going to let

a regular nigga in? Because he's there with a franchise and I'm pretty sure that they tried to put all the resources they can to get him in and it didn't work. What do you think their reasons are, though? Because it's so,

it's been so many Americans that try to get through Canada customs, and all of us for different reasons. What do you think they're really trying to make a point about? I think Canada, and this is no, no disrespect, no disrespect whatsoever, none. But Canada may look at us how America looks at Mexico. The further we're down there,

you know. You're not going to come up here with that. Yeah, with that cartel. You know, I think it's good for Donald Trump wanting to build a wall and all type of shit.

Like, yo, we not letting them niggas in here. So now we're the next one up. Canada might be like, nah, we ain't letting them niggas in up here. Like, y'all ain't just going to come up here and do everything y'all niggas want to do. Canada might be like, nah, we ain't letting them niggas in up here. Y'all ain't just gonna come up here

and do everything y'all niggas wanna do. It's the Mexico, America, Canada. The further up you get, the harder it... Imagine a Mexican trying to get into Canada. Them niggas might go to jail. Definitely, probably, most likely not get in. Yeah, exactly. And then

that's all I could look at it as. Because Canada, look, I'm not saying they don't have crime. I don't even know the statistics, but it may not be American crime. Yeah, so exactly. And then American crime may not be Mexican crime. Mexicans, the cartels, look, they, I lived in America my whole life. And I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I've never seen 13 human heads in front of the precinct. Talking about, leave us alone or it'll be more. This happens in Juarez and Mexico and shit like that. So the further up, the further north you get, the less likely it is for you to get in the country, my opinion. Yeah, and I was thinking about that.

With a 10-year order of protection or protection order, a 10-year protection order, they wasn't supposed to let them in there. Who? Miles Bridges. If you got a 10-year protection order, there's no way they're supposed to let you in there.

There's a lot of variables to it, and I agree with you, but if you fill out some work shit, too, it's a lot of different paperwork, like I said, to get in there. Because you got to work for hire. I've been there, too, for shows, you know. So it's a work for hire, and I had a felony, and they let me in to work for hire.

I just got tired of going through customs. So I'm like, what do I have to do to not go through customs? But then again, it boils down to money. Give us this and we'll put you in a program and then we'll let you in anytime you want to be let in. So I basically not saying I'm...

Because look, don't get me wrong, look. The felony ain't go away. I still got saying I'm, because look, don't get me wrong. Look, the felony ain't go away. I still got, I mean, it should be. I'm going to go try and go get my felony exonerated because it's been over 10 years. But when I went in there, I still had the felony. It was still a gun charge, but I paid and I went on online rehabilitation, which is like, are you better? Yeah. Are you going to do this again? No.

You promise? Yeah. Do that really mean I'm rehabilitated? I was never like that, like that I'm talking about, but I still had the felony. But to me, it boils down to the money. Okay. Last thing before we go to break. I know the topics are very heavy hitting y'all today, but former NBA G league player chance.

I don't want to butcher his last name. Come on. Che and his girlfriend were arrested and are facing an open murder charge in relation to a killing and kidnapping of a missing woman in Las Vegas. That's on the situation. I don't know what to say. I'm serious. I know it's a lie. You know what to say I'm serious I know it's a lie

You know what I get what need to happen I'm about to start praying for these niggas For real Yeah for real Cause this is crazy Like How do you go from basketball

To even being in a position Of a girl Murdered I don't They can say they got Other guys He need Jesus He definitely

If you If you like And this This show today Is heavy But that's That's the only thing I know that

That could really help niggas man For real That's crazy If you If a girl pop up Dead Basketball doesn't matter I don't know

Nobody's gonna stand with him on that Nobody And it seem like Everything that's going on Like even when Cam opened the show with Cassie, it just seemed like people were just, it's just getting crazy, crazy, and crazier.

I don't really have too many details of the case. I'm looking at it right here. Only thing I'll say is with situations like this, it's like the other nigga,iddy I just don't like throwing anybody under the bus without all the information and everything else right now he's

arrested and his girlfriend's arrested it's all accusations but we do know is that it's a female dead and that's a serious thing so I won't give my opinion on him or his girlfriend or anybody else because I don't know the facts. Right now, we're in a society is if somebody say he did it, then he did it. And I just don't go by that.

I just can't put that on anybody. But once I find out the facts and I know you did it, then I go in on niggas. And, you know, a lot of people hit me, oh, Cam, we was talking about the gay, oh, Cam, you do this and you say this. And I'm like, yo, because once you rape a female or do something that has to do with being a pedophile, I'm never fucking with you again.

And I'm going to go crazy on you, and I'm going to make you look stupid and embarrass you up here. So before I get to that crazy on you, and I'm going to make you look stupid and embarrass you up here. So before I get to that, I like to know all my facts. And this is a very serious situation, so I won't give my facts without having any more information. But I'm pretty sure more information will come out in the days to come. But what I will say is my prayers and rest in peace to the female who's not here anymore. And my prayers go out to her family.

Yeah. The female's name is Mariana Rogers. So rest in peace. Very scary situation, especially. What happened to her? She was saying she was kidnapped and killed and her body was left somewhere. So, yeah, scary situation. In addition to me being a female that's what i'm

saying i agree with cam about you know not really giving an opinion on a person i'm giving an opinion on the matter like it's certain things you could just stay free of that's what i'm talking about how these niggas is moving like like i try, I try to do things a certain way so if somebody put my name in something, I know they lying. You know what I'm saying? So that's more so what I'm speaking of. And I didn't always do things that way,

but I definitely try to live that way now. So if somebody say something, you can know, yeah, that nigga lying. Yeah. Okay. Yo, for real, if you need counseling your boy is here for you all jokes aside rsvp mace dme i get back with you i'm praying for you man we're gonna go to break and when we return we will talk about the eagles loss She call this thing about toxic

Boy, isn't countin' Got you feelin' like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening, me won't fall, oh, oh Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about us She wanna be free Why am I don't wanna see her walk away I wish somebody told me the rules Disagreements let her win

And it's cool Even when I'm ready to sing about Welcome back. So let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Celtics will play the Warriors. Underdog fantasy has Jason Tatum at 42 and a half points, rebounds and assists. Do you have a higher or lower Mace?

Higher. Lower. Okay. Jalen Brown is at five rebounds. Do you have them higher or lower Cam? Lower. Jalen Brown, five rebounds. Higher. Lower. Say that again. Jalen Brown, five rebounds. High.

Okay. And Steph Curry is at 26 and a half points. Do you have them higher or lower? Mace. High. Higher. Okay. Make sure to download the Underdog Fantasy app

and you can make your picks too. It's been a very interesting week in sports. The Eagles lost to the Seahawks 20-17 with Seahawks drew Locke as quarterback. Thoughts on their loss? Eagles, y'all fumbled the ball. No pun intended. Y'all was able, you know, the Cowboys lost yesterday

and y'all could have led in the division. This game puts y'all back behind the Cowboys in the division. You secured your playoff spot, but, you know, with San Francisco playing well, San Francisco playing really well, it's you guys, the Eagles I'm talking about, and the Cowboys trying to buy the first week so you don't have to be a wild card team. You fumble, B. Gilly, maybe you should bring Wallow back as an Eagle fan. You dismissed him saying he was bad luck.

He's not an Eagle fan anymore. So now what's the excuse that you guys lost? Don't blame Wallow anymore, Gilly. What I will do is give a big shout out to my man, Drew Locke. He fucked with that Jeezy. You know that nigga? I don't know if y'all remember when he's on the sideline, when he played for Denver, he's playing.

Yeah, man, my spaceship. He loved Jeezy and he listened to Jeezy before the game. So big, big shout out to Drew Locke. This was a good game for Seattle. I have to see where their understanding is. But this is more about the Eagles not taking advantage of the Cowboys losing yesterday. And now you're second in the division.

Congrats. Well, I mean, Julian Love, his two interceptions is really the plays of the game. Other than that touchdown catch that we we hope somebody in

in Kansas City start catching that's the same play they've been dropping every game for Kansas City yeah I mean listen Southside Jew

my nigga Southside Jew I know you're upset too all you niggas in Philly y'all fuck the opportunity up and you have nobody to blame for yourself this is what I'll be talking about when these teams are hot

in the beginning of the season and then fuck up when the playoffs come around I don't really have nothing to say bless you that's that okay the Clippers are on a roll they beat the Pacers 151 to 127, making this their eighth straight win. Can you see the Clippers continuing to win?

Well, before I talk about the Clippers continuing to win, the Pacers, it look like people are targeting them now. They're a target now. It seem like they're not up for the challenge. But I'm happy that the Clippers are starting to win. I think it makes for a sensational showdown between the Lakers and the Clippers, especially with the way they're playing now. I know Ty Lue's happy.

I could see them continuing to win for a little bit. I'm not going on a limb yet and saying that they're coming out of the West, but they definitely looking like they're trying to get to the semifinals. Shout out to Ty Lue. I've seen Ty Lue at Rich Paul's party too. What up, Ty? Big shout out to Ty Lue.

Look, Ty Lue said he needed 10 games. He was right. When James Harden got there, give him 10 games to see what he could do. And I think it was about eight games when he started turning it around. Me and Jamal Crawford believed James Harden should come off the bench. Russell Westbrook took it upon himself to come off the bench. Ty Lue, you know, he started getting in the kitchen and cooking.

They figured it out. We still haven't heard a lot from Kawhi, and I believe he's still their best player, but looking at some of the, I've seen two games, full games since James Harden's been there, and they both was victories in the highlights. It's looking like, see, one thing about James Harden, when he's happy, he gonna ball out, and he's in a place where he's happy. It seems like he's pretty happy. We got to remember, he also led the league in assists last year. And that's big for somebody who led a league in scoring before.

Most foul shots, we know he can score the ball. But for him to get assist leader last year was big also. So when he's in a system where he likes and somewhere where he wants to be, James Harden's going to ball out. Right now, the Clippers, they are in sixth place in the West. They're actually ahead of the Lakers, ahead of New Orleans,

ahead of Phoenix, ahead of Golden State. So I want to give Ty Lue a shout out for figuring this thing out. And we'll see where it goes from there. No shout out to the GOAT. Shout out to the GOAT. Shout out to the GOAT. Paul George been making this happen.

It's courtesy of Paul George. I'm not disagreeing with you, but if Tyloo don't have him out on the floor, it can't happen, man. But shout out to the GOAT. Big shout out to the GOAT. Okay. O.K.C. Thunder defeated

the Grizzlies 116-97 and Ja Morant is expected to make his season debut tonight. How do you feel about both teams? I'm here for it. I'm here for Ja. Yeah, you might as well not have brung up the game

last night. Niggas is waiting for the night, nigga. The niggas sitting at home with their popcorn and everything else. I'll tell you one thing. Man, listen. This is the most excitement

pause I've felt in a little minute. I don't think I was this excited to see Wembe play. Yeah. I wasn't this excited. You know, he was

the new phenomenon and we have to see himembe play. Yeah. I wasn't disexcited. You know, he was the new phenomenon, and you have to see him play. Nah, nah. I can't wait to see Jod Dunk on Wembe. It's a certified assassin returning tonight, and I'm pretty sure not just us, any basketball fan will be totally locked in. What I don't want is him to be too hype.

You know, he probably like, you know, one of them shits where the matador's waiting and the ball is just in it. You got to open the door. You just run when you open the door. I don't want him to go too crazy, but this is a nigga with a lot of pent-up energy and a lot of probably frustration for watching the organization be in a position where they are now.

And, you know, he may be a little bit responsible for that. So now he may try to make up too much too quick. But if he does, so what? I'm here to watch it. I can't wait. And I definitely think, I agree with you, I definitely think it's an awkward moment, though, when Jod comes through the locker room and D-Rose is sitting right there

and they said they wasn't going to babysit you. Well, you know, Jod was allowed to be around the team. He just couldn't be at the games or participate in any games. But he's been around. He's probably been looking. You got to think after the game's been over. Look at Unk talking about he ain't babysitting.

I'm saying when he comes out, dunk on a nigga, I wonder what's the reaction between him and D-Rose. Like, do he dabble? And Marcus Smart said something too as well. Yeah.

The whole thing about it, I don't even think it'd be the in-game reaction. I think he been giving them reactions like, look at Unk and I'm talking about. They don't want to babysit. They need a babysitter.

Icing their knees every night and all this crazy shit. I'm excited. I'm very excited. Me as well. Okay. The Mavs lost to the Nuggets 130 to 104. This is with Jokic only scoring eight points. What are your thoughts?

I'm still thinking about the jaw game, actually. I was just thinking, if Jaw only had 12, I ain't watching the NBA no more. Jaw gotta go crazy. Now, who are you talking about after that? Mavs versus the Nuggets. Jokic only scoring eight. Oh, man.

Jaw playing. Mavs versus the Nuggets Jokic only scoring 8 oh man job planning look you know what's crazy is that we talked about this game yesterday morning and we was like oh this is about Europe and where they come from and this is gonna be big and so on and so forth it was a blowout

it was a blowout highest you know Jamal Murray 22 points and so on and so forth. It was a blowout. It was a blowout. Highest, you know, Jamal Murray, 22 points. Aaron Gordon, 21 points. We didn't expect a good game out of this. I did. You did?

I did. I mean, you got the number four seed against the number one seed. You got a Europe player speaking, two Europe players speaking about Luka and the Joker. I thought it was going to be a really good game. I thought it was going to be like, yeah, let's see. Because we talked about how they don't come over here and take games off like other players

because they're so far from home. I'm very shocked at this. This is like back in the days, a group of guards playing against a dominant big man. Yeah, well, at the end of the day, Luka's still at this. This is like back in the days, a group of guards playing against a dominant big man. Yeah, well, at the end of the day, Luka's still at 38. This is what I'm talking about. Luka came to play. The Joker probably

felt, you know, he didn't need it. He had a triple single tonight. I don't know. I didn't see this game, but looking at the stats, they didn't really need him. They won by 24 points. Luka's still getting 38 points. Only one other player had double digits.

This is what we were talking about. Does Luka make the team better? I know Kyrie's not there, but when you, the next highest scored person only has 11 points. You get a 24 point loss. Right.

Yeah, but, and to your point, Kyrie was out and Derek Lively, their center was out. So they were kind of, you get a 24 point loss. Right. Pretty bad. Yeah. But into your point, Kyrie was out in Derek Lively. Their center was out. So they were kind of, so anyways, next job,

my rant. Okay. And lastly, last week, the Rockets beat the Grizzlies one Oh three to 96. Dylan Brooks made things clear by saying, I don't want to lose to Memphis ever in my career. I want to win every single

time we play Memphis just to let them know they made a mistake. Thoughts on his mentality? Who wants to lose for the team that traded, that got rid of you? Of course you don't want to lose to them niggas. You could have still been in Memphis if you wasn't talking shit about LeBron. And not only not, it isn't really about talking shit about LeBron. It's about you talking big shit to LeBron and LeBron bust your ass after that. Now, if you would have been talking shit to LeBron and y'all won that series

and then y'all went to the next round, you would still be in Memphis. Right now, you would still be there. That's crazy how that one series got him out of Memphis. Yeah, you know what it was, Murda? It was that. John Moran with the guns.

It was a lot of nonsense. Yeah, and they had to make an escape goal. He was the escape goal. Yeah, yeah. They couldn't get rid of Ja. They couldn't. That ain't happening. See what's going on now.

But, of course, nobody wants to lose to the team that got rid of him. Duh. Fuck. Duh, nigga. Of course you don't want to lose. So let me ask you this. Do you want to lose to the team and they got rid of him. Duh. Fuck. Duh, nigga. Of course you don't want to lose. So let me ask you this. Do you want to lose to anybody? Yeah.

I know you might say, nah, I really don't want to lose to them niggas. Yeah, the bigger question should be, Dylan Brooks, do you want to lose to the Lakers? Yeah.

That's who got you fired. Yeah, yeah. LeBron got you fired. Don't take it out on Memphis. That's a great point. If you got a problem with anybody, it should be with one organization and one team. And every time you want to get 20 points,

it should be against LeBron James. Yeah, because he got you to talk shit, and there was a whole thing. Don't poke the bear. You're poking the bear. Yeah, he made you move your whole family. Yeah, yeah, and that's a fact. He made you switch time zones, nigga. And that's a fact. He may just switch time zones.

So that's a great point, Mace. Don't stop worrying about the Grizzlies. Worry about the nigga who got you kicked out of Memphis. The other niggas start laughing and the nigga said, what you laughing at? I ain't slapping you. He slapped you. Exactly. LeBron made you move.

Well, that's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is.