IT IS WHAT IT IS - MA$E & CAM'RON GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE KENDRICK LAMAR HALFTIME SHOW & TITLETOWN OFFICIALLY ON THE MOVE TO PHILLY?! | S6 EP20
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Hello y'all, uh
I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back
But no confusion, this a reunion
Hello y'all, welcome back
Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money
He said, can't man the hell we're at
I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches
Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga
Black fences and white vigas
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Killer was good, man.
You made me bet on the Chiefs. Niggas getting to me like I was rooting for the Chiefs all year.
And now, now I'm in the doghouse with you
and I ain't been fucking with the Chiefs all year.
I ain't in the doghouse.
Well, how's you doing?
We on the move.
Title Town, I always told y'all Title Town was on the move now.
And when the cowboy had to be supportive in a rough time.
But you ain't fucking with the Chiefs?
I mean, y'all want me to start right now?
Yeah, I'm just asking your question and you you fucking with the cheese before you before you start let me say something real quick
Look on some G shit. I love our audience. So y'all y'all niggas made us who we are today
I love y'all, but y'all calm the fuck down now for real like nigga
You be y'all you know that we here five days a week for you
You know, we got other shit to do we got man
We stop a lot of other shit that we have to do to be here five days a week.
We can't take no days off niggas,
y'all running, y'all with some bullshit,
y'all where the fuck is y'all at?
Let me read that.
They say you're getting too much money.
Can't understand that.
They say we.
You gotta.
Oh, okay.
Tidal town on the motor.
And listen man, we really got mad shit to do.
We're here five days a week.
Let me read some more comments.
We're gonna cut this shit to four days.
Keep it up.
So we can do everything.
Then if you say some more, we'll cut it to three.
You know we can do this once a week.
We're here for you.
Calm down, niggas got shit to do.
My bad, Murr, I was reading the comments.
Niggas, son, your niggas getting mad.
You're gonna say Cam getting comfortable.
Nah, nah, they didn't say Cam, Murr.
That's what I read.
Of course you wrote that.
God damn.
But don't get me wrong, we love the passion.
We love that you don't want to wake up in the morning
pausing, don't want to watch them other bullshit shows.
We get it.
But calm down, man.
You know that we worked at one time 400 and something days
nonstop, New Year's, Thanksgiving.
Like it was a nonstop.
We worked 400 days straight, it's only 365 a year.
We calm down y'all.
We not going there relaxed.
Maybe have a little business take care of, right?
My bad, man.
Now go explain something.
Yeah, Tidal Town on the move, man.
I mean, we've always been, you know?
And you know what I really wanna tell y'all is a difference.
You know, like you know what I really want to tell you is a difference. You know, like you, you live in these expensive subdivisions
and there's different houses on different streets, you know.
So is title town is all title town, but some people live on
different sides of title towns.
Like there's a difference between a dark skinned nigga and a light skinned nigga.
You know, there's different sides, man.
People live on different sides, Cam.
I couldn't wait to tell you that.
Who we join with today, man?
Yeah, I'm totally lost.
I definitely need a brain indefinition of Tidal Town
because it changed it.
I don't know what the complexion got to do with what's,
this sound like segregation
Mike know this right right right yeah
Analyst Michael
Mike urban listen Mike isn't there a difference between light skin nice niggas pause and dark skin nice niggas, you know
It is a difference.
That is what we talking about.
We talking about what the KFC didn't do.
Now we can, hey, that's that old technique I used the wrong time ago
when I used to catch him in the club.
If I can't convince him, I try to confuse him, but I get to the room.
You see what I'm saying?
So you can stop all of that, buddy.
You're trying to confuse us right now.
Hey, hey, stat.
That jam.
Am I real quick, Mike?
You don't even go walk in here today?
What?
No, no, real quick.
No, what I wanna say is real quick, Mike.
Mike, what I wanna say,
because I want you to get back to your point,
is that you don't just use that in the club.
You tried to use it last week when we was discussing the knee.
You can't convince niggas so you try to confuse them.
I see your technique.
Yeah, my bad.
Yeah, Mike, what this nigga thought he was going to do?
Tell us what this nigga thought he's going to do, Mike.
Mike, what this nigga thought he was gonna do? Tell us what this nigga thought he was gonna do, Mike.
But that wasn't the same.
In the club, you can see if you got immediate results or not.
You understand what I'm saying?
You know, so yeah.
But hey, people really probably thought
that we took a couple days off
because Minks was calling in with the new COVID.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't want to come and face that. You don't wanna come in face to face.
Y'all getting calls from Nick, talking about, yeah, May say here, May say come in.
May say, where the hell is May?
Y'all hear me out?
So I guess we finally found him.
Now we back.
Now, Mike, Mike, see, let me tell you something.
I kinda knew they wasn't gonna win. Let, Mike, see, let me tell you something. I kind of knew they wasn't gonna win.
Let me tell you how.
Oh my God. Wow.
Let me tell you how.
Wow.
No, for real.
Wow.
I mean, listen, you can't leave a black girl
for a white girl.
It just ain't gonna go good, I'm telling you.
You didn't know this.
That boy is spinning now.
He's 60 weight.
He can't leave no sister.
Shout out to Nicole, you know what I'm saying?
He done had Nicole, you the one that.
Yeah, the flaws is true.
The football guys didn't like that.
Wow, this is how we're starting, Mase.
Yeah.
This is crazy.
You got to take up for the sisters, you know.
Okay.
Wow.
Well, we have a lot to talk about.
The Chiefs lost the Super Bowl.
The Chiefs lost their chance at a three-peat.
The Chiefs lost on the biggest stage to the Eagles, 40 to 22. Mike, gonna let you go first.
Wait, let me start since I got more to share.
Go ahead, Mase.
I mean, because I was saying something, I was getting to something like.
You got more pain in your chest.
You got more pain, I got you.
Go ahead, Mike, go ahead.
No, no, no, spare your pain, buddy. We gonna get you right.
That was crazy, Mike, that was crazy.
But, you know, honestly, you got the Voodoo Dog,
it was just so much that day, you know?
It was just a lot going on.
You got people trying voodoo on us.
He left Nicole, you know what I'm saying?
Shout out to Nicole, you know?
I feel what you were saying, you know?
And then I blame Michael Jordan.
He made it too easy. Pause. He made it look too easy. And then I blame Michael Jordan
He made it too easy pause. He made it look too easy. He made brothers think they can win three peets without sisters
You got to have a sister by the side of you going three P Just for you athletes out there if you're trying to go three Pete
You're gonna need a sister with you Only Mike been able to do it. Sometimes pause, we make it look so easy
that people think they can do it too, man.
This just speaks to the greatness of Michael Jordan.
360 waves.
360 waves, baby.
Is he spinning, PT?
360?
All of it in the door, nigga.
This nigga's spinning up.
Pearl Monroe.
Nigga just naming
anything. Pearl Monroe got to
do with this. Spin. That was
his move. Oh, okay.
He didn't do nothing else but spin.
Mike, it's on you, baby.
Oh,
okay. Now listen, and this is what I
saw, and honestly, because I know, I know Mase is worried,
but this is what I think will come out of this game.
You saw total domination and I told you guys, if that defensive line gets to Patrick Mahone,
that's over.
It's over.
I told you that's the only way you can beat Patrick Mahone's and what now what the Kansas
City Chiefs have to do right now, Mase,
is they gotta back up and stop.
Because every year, they have taken things away
and taken things away.
They keep saying, well, let's see what else we can win with,
well, let's see what else Patrick Mahomes can win
when we take something away.
We take away Tyreek Hill, we take away this,
we take away, and it We take away the entire interview. We take away this thing with it.
And it's gotten to the bottom now and a fine.
No, I'm going to retool.
And I was looking at the draft choices guys that they made and each year they
had to get a higher receiver draft draft choice.
You know, in 22, they took Scott Moore, 23, say around peak receipt rice
20 and 24 and to Xavier Worth.
You need to start looking at some linemen because I have asked the team
is I think through this, the only way the only way you beat them
is to kill them like the Eagles did.
And I'm talking about, dude, let me be here.
I'm down. Eagle should get arrested.
They should get a recipe for what they did to Patrick.
Remember that one play where he was throwing the ball and they
they took the ball and then they just he then they knocked the
they knocked the shit out of him. I mean, not the shit.
I was like, it's almost like somebody ripped the matrix and
he was gone. I was like, damn, what did he call? I mean, not the shit. I was like, it's almost like somebody ripped the matrix and he was gone.
I was like, damn, what did he call?
I mean, they covered him up.
And I'm telling you right now, they have to start thinking Kansas City in terms of
my only concern is protecting Patrick Mahomes.
No more. We hear every year.
We got to get Lamar Jackson is we won't get Josh Allen is we don't get somebody.
We'll never hear that we're going to get Patrick Mahone something.
It's time to get him something now and that's some protection.
Yeah, that's a great thing. I just want to say
that Mason needs to study more during the season because all he does is the championship leads to
the AFC. The championships leads to the AFC.
The championships going through the AFC.
I don't got time to watch this.
I don't got time to watch that.
And this is a testament of what happened.
What happened, Murda?
Because the fans told me to get you, pause.
They say all this AFC, the titles going through the AFC.
Let me ask you, what happened?
I'm gonna tell you what happened.
So when you look at Philly, right?
They got good, they got a good defense,
but I don't think it was the defense.
Nick and they laughing at you.
Why, you're a bad guy.
I mean, I don't think it was the defense.
I honestly don't think it was.
I think when you got major turnovers in the beginning
and you let any team get out that,
that many touchdowns early,
it's going to be hard,
especially if you're playing against a quality team.
You, you played in the NFL, Mike, you know,
if you make a lot of turnovers early,
it's going to be a problem,
especially against a team that's as well rounded
as the Philadelphia Eagles.
They, they are stellar in each, in each position.
It wasn't just the defense.
You, you had to watch say Quon running.
So then that opened up the backfill.
Right.
Is that pause?
Is that correct?
Mike, say Quon, they bottle that in the up.
That's what I'm saying.
They put all of their emphasis on say Quwan, which allowed AJ Brown to get that
Pass which allowed even now you got rookies getting caught you getting touchdowns
It was just it was just one of those games. That's not supposed to happen towards
Great teams and when I say great, I'm thinking of people who can make the adjustment. I'm thinking of Floyd Mayweathers.
I'm thinking of Jordan.
I'm thinking of people in that caliber.
When you're a great team, you don't have an off game.
You may have an off quarter.
You can go as far as an off half, but you should never have an off game because
that that plays into your psyche about how you're not able to regroup.
So when I was thinking about the chiefs, I actually was stopped watching them
because I didn't see another team
with that type of mental fortitude.
Before we come to the championship,
we all, and Nick got the tapers,
since he back there laughing.
Nick.
And Nick, if you go back to the last tape,
I was saying that if there was a team that could beat them,
the Eagles would beat a team because they had the things that was like kryptonite to the Chiefs.
But I still thought they would figure out a way to win, you know, all jokes aside, Kate,
Nicole and all of that and voodoo dogs to the side.
I definitely thought the Chiefs had what it took mentally to beat them.
But if you look on paper,
they were dominated at each department other than the quarterback.
Every position, they had a better person at that position, so when Kamp say study, that lets you know I did study.
I'm the answer to the first one here that shit, Murda.
I guess I'm gonna hear all that.
The mental fortitude, nah, nigga. I'm not saying.
I'm not saying.
Listen.
Listen.
I'm trying to tell you.
I'm trying to tell you.
I know you're very articulate, very smart,
but you brush teams off week after week after week
and say, yo, I don't gotta pay attention to these niggas.
I ain't gotta do that.
So I'm not saying that you don't know what you talking about,
but you brush everybody off.
I don't got time to watch losers.
I ain't got time for this.
The champions is coming through the AOC anyway.
So why the fuck would I be watching these niggas?
So I'm not acting like you don't know what to do
when it's time to do it, but you brushed everybody off.
Now what I think is this, seriously,
this is who the Chiefs been all year.
They been getting by all year,
putting a bandaid on some shit that needs stitches, all year.
Killing, the refs didn't help us.
That's what happened.
Them niggas didn't show up, that's what happened.
That's who didn't show up, the refs didn't show up.
That's what happened.
That's what happened.
That's what happened.
That's what happened.
They put the camera on, they put the camera on Taylor Swift,
they booed Taylor Swift, all the extra shit.
She walked in there with high spice.
That wasn't part of the agreement.
Yeah.
You know the nigga Donald Trump?
He said, he tweeted, the only person that
had a rougher night than Patrick Mahomes, pardon me,
than the Kansas City Chiefs was Taylor Swift, magazine
Forgiven, because they was born her.
But this is a testament, seriously,
this is really a testament of who the Kansas City Chiefs won, was born of it. But this is a testament seriously, this is really a testament
of who the Kansas City Chiefs won was all year. Week after week we keep seeing the referees make
calls even in the playoffs. Me and Mike was talking about it last time he was up here.
We sit there and watch the Kansas City Chiefs get away with murder week after week to when they end
up being, I know they lost two games, but they really lost one game,
whether it's the referees, whether special teams messed up, whether
the defense came through last minute, whether they kicked the field.
And we like these motherfuckers keep winning.
And this is just what happens with the like I said, a cut
that injury that needs stitches and keep putting the bandaid open on it, pause, and
then they say, okay, it's an infection.
That's what happened.
I don't agree.
I don't agree with Mace when he says that the defense didn't do it.
Thumbniggers was clowning their offensive line.
I see him.
I see him.
I can't think of the player's name. He said, we came into the game knowing that
the Kansas City Chiefs weakness was their offensive line.
They only blitzed two times the whole game.
They rushed four diggers the whole game.
What you say, Mike?
I'm sorry.
Yeah, yeah, they only-
That was late in the game.
Right, and that was late-
It was late when they blitzed.
They had to whoop your ass already.
They just did that to get something on the stat sheet. Right, and that was late. Late when they blip. They had to whoop your ass already. They just did that.
Get something on the stat sheet.
Right, exactly.
And they rushed forward the whole time.
And Mike, you made a great point.
I didn't look at it like that
because we're so focused a lot of times
on what Tyreek Hill says.
It's like, he wants to leave.
And they like, oh, he shouldn't have left the Chiefs,
shouldn't have left the Chiefs.
But every year they keep nitpicking
and taking people away and
getting no disrespect when I say Juju's Smith,
the nigga Juju, I ain't got time to, he got a tongue-twister name and all that, poor.
Yeah, Smith's Schuster and all that. That's my nigga when he's in Pittsburgh, I fuck with him.
But you're going to be like, oh we can make him hot again.
It's one of them things like you said Mike Mike, if you put them with Pat or anybody
with Pat, it's you're expecting greatness.
And I think that the Eagles just exposed that.
You know, I went with the Chiefs last minute because I said, if anybody could do
it, it's Patrick Mahomes.
But Mase did make a great point.
That team is so well-rounded that they should not have lost it all.
so well-rounded that they should not have lost at all. Listen, I've seen so many people try to downplay
Jalen Hurts' performance as well.
And I'm like, bro, nobody's fucking happy out here.
Nobody's happy out here.
You sit there and say, we're not gonna get Saquon,
we're not gonna let Saquon Barkley beat us,
end up finishing with 57 yards.
But then Jalen Hurts does a great job,
and he's like, well, he managed to gain.
The boy was throwing good passes.
He threw one interception.
He was dropping them in the basket,
whether it was Devante Smith, or it was AJ Bray.
They did their thing, man.
And you have to give props to the Philadelphia Eagles.
And everybody's so quick to jump the gun
because we're in the era.
Are they the new chiefs?
Are they the new dynasty?
Calm the fuck down and let's find out.
What I will say is this, Mike, and I'll let you go next,
is that I've seen Dak Prescott.
He said, yeah, we right there with the Eagles.
You know, if they can do it, we can do it.
What the fuck kind of shit they smoking in Dallas, Mike?
Cause next time I see you, have that shit with me.
Yo, we right there with the Eagles.
No, you're not that.
You can't even stay on the fucking field
for a full season.
Calm the fuck down.
Congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles.
And y'all well deserved this, man.
Very good, cause not only that, nothing like us I want.
Real quick, Mike, cause what I want to say,
sorry about that. I just want to say because they went through a lot of scrutiny throughout the
year. There's in the Super Bowl a couple years ago, then last year they had a terrible year.
Then when this year started, oh, Jayler Hertz and A.J. Brown is again alone. A.J. Brown is on the
side reading books. Are they the same team? They didn't get off to a great start, but they finished
great. We sat there talking about Buffalo all year. We sat there talking about Baltimore all year.
We sat there and said, well, if Joe Burrows and them could sneak into the playoffs, they'll be alright.
We kind of brushed the Eagles off and not saying that we didn't think they were going to be somebody in the NFC to watch,
but we were so busy focusing on the Vikings, focusing on the Lions, saying, uh-oh, I'm
talking about early in the season.
Well, if San Francisco get healthy, they might make a move.
Nobody was picking the Eagles unless she probably lived in Philadelphia or made the Eagles fans.
So I just want to give them their props.
Sorry, my bad.
Right.
And it is.
And I held off talking about Philadelphia because we wanted to ride in on Mace over there.
But you do supposed to start with the champions and they are the champions.
And let me tell you something, I talked about this on our show Monday morning.
Like when they asked the question, you know, what did Jalen Hurst prove with this Super Bowl win?
And I said, OK, you know, well, that he can run that offense,
that he's a good quarterback for that offense.
And I had absolutely, I should apologize to Jaylin Hurst.
I went home and thought about it more.
And I was like, man, wait a minute.
This dude did so much more than that.
And it's so much deeper than that.
Think about this, think about all of,
well, we saw his flight. I
was telling you guys a measurement of distance travel. You got pulled from a
championship game. Another guy came in and threw a championship game, went in
touchdown. You know, then you got trained, then you transferred. Any place, anywhere
along that line, you could have said, man, this ain't for me and got out. But he
believed in himself and he got back to this point.
And here's what I'm talking about too.
Yes, I've been antiquated.
I think all of us have been antiquated
in our thoughts and process about what a quarterback is
because we remember Peyton Manning and Tom Brady
sitting in the pocket, distributing the ball
and winning championships.
So we quick that with championships.
Now we have been fighting as African American quarterbacks to get in and certainly running
quarterbacks to get in.
And a lot of that fight has been because, oh, they have the ability to shoulders down,
but secretly they don't have the ability shoulders up.
They can't read the defense.
When somebody says that's a running quarterback,
the underlying word is what they're saying is,
oh, he can't read the defense, so he has to bring it down and run.
That's why you always heard a running quarterback can't ever win a championship.
And Jalen Hurts here again blazed a new trail.
Think about the talent that came in prior to him.
Randall Cunningham ran way better than him.
Michael Vick, Cam Newt, Lamar Jackson,
Doble, ooh wee Ronald, ooh wee.
Every time they made a play, ooh wee.
Jalen Hurts is just the ooh. a oh wait Taylor hurts is just the ooh
He died the week. He's just who you go to push you see what I mean?
There's a toosh push, but he has great leadership and it's incredible what he has done. He has knocked the door down
For the running so-called running quarterback in incense the African American
so-called running quarterback in a sense, the African-American quarterback, because now the thing that they always held against them was, well, you can't win a championship
with that style of play.
Jalen Hurst says, yes, you can.
And now you can go get the rest of those brothers and bring them in the league.
So you got to give them all the credit in the world man for for for standing there You would have thought Michael Vick or Lamar Jackson would be the one that gets this on
But it was it was Jalen Hurts and he earned here. He deserves everything. He's getting that's like your man Sean Payton, right?
He don't like the black quarterbacks, right?
Well, the whole thing was like what about a lot of coaches didn't like the black quarterback
because like they said, they don't think they could think through a process like that.
I said, Sean Payton, Mike, I said, Sean Payton, Mike, Sean Payton, Mike, I asked you, Sean.
Oh, you trying to go back to the. I understand Sean Payton's situation with Russell. Russell was also, Russell could read,
he was just too damn short.
What?
And those guys started learning. We just got to put our arms up.
Heard that before Mike?
Was that?
That he's too short. But when I said it, I sounded crazy.
I just had to co-sign that.
Keep going.
It is spin day.
Sean likes to play pre-snap.
So like that's what work with Drew Brees.
You're that short.
You ain't gonna, you know, you won't be able to see everybody when they get close to you.
So play pre-snap.
Understand where you're going with the ball before they snap the
ball and Russ is actually a post snap player.
So they were going to, they were going to collide.
I didn't like the way they collided on the sideline, but I saw him collide
with his quarterback this year, but them two white guys got it together and went
on to do some good things.
Well, Mike, Mike, um, for the, for the viewers out there. Can you let everybody know? What's the proper?
Paulside for quarterback so you and stack to stop using this
Yeah, cuz Russell Wilson's and I'm not really going to tribute that the mic is stat went to the game and in Pittsburgh and she says
Russell Wilson's kind of short to see over the
Russell Wilson's kind of short to see over the offensive and defensive line.
But when he was winning, it was just fine and Mike Tomlin made the right decision.
But then when they start losing, I realized the problem.
He's too short. He's a super. He actually should have two Super Bowls.
He's a he's a play call away from not having two Super Bowls.
Super Bowl champions that.
But guys, I digress.
But but but but can't make them.
But then those Super Bowl
championships, the Russell guy, Super Bowl opportunities that
he got to Seattle, that was a young Russell, he was short, but
he could move. Now he's short and stuck. That's a problem. You
can't move like you used to. So that's that that's what stat is
talking about. Because now when you get trapped in
that pocket and you can't whirl and twirl and get out of that pocket because your ass
too short and you can't throw the ball, you can't steal from nobody, that becomes a problem.
You try to deal with it as best you can.
Oh my goodness. Stat didn't say anything about him being slow. Stat, we're not letting you
put 10 on 20.
I did say that too, but I said I trust Mike Tomlin,
so that's his decision, go for it.
So what's the height?
What's the height, Mike?
Not 5'9".
He's not 5'9".
I'm telling you, yo, if you look at the video,
because I interviewed Russell Wilson,
we're like the same height.
You're not getting another interview, Stat.
We are like the same height. I hope you know that. We are like the same height. You're not getting another interview, Stats.
We are like the same height.
I hope you know that.
We are like the same height.
Keep rolling the dice.
All I'm gonna say, that's just stating facts.
That's all.
Sierra, Sierra posted right now.
That's all I'm saying.
He's like 5'9".
Sierra gonna see Stats.
Sorry, I didn't say anything else.
He's about 5'9".
That's the truth.
You can look at the videos, you can check the stats.
That's all I gotta say.
Mike, I do wanna say, okay, that,
me and your father, talking about we discovered the problem
and they went to the game.
6'1", there he is.
6'1 is the height.
6'1, I want a minimum of 6'1,
because those guys rushing, you gonna be 6'5", 6'4",
you know, so I need a minimum of 6'1
so you can see it and get it over, that's a minimum.
Yeah, I wanna real quick, Mike,
I just wanna add on to what you said
for some of the audience who may not know
about Jalen Hurts when he was in Alabama,
how he got benched for Tua, and Tua came in
and then he came back and they had to transfer to Oklahoma
to where they don't really know his journey.
And you tapped in on it a little bit,
but it wasn't like one of these easy journeys
to get to exactly where he's at.
So I just want to give Jalen Hurst a lot of love
because the next day he was getting love,
but it was like a backhanded compliment.
If you ask me, a lot of sports shows the next day,
they didn't give them the championship,
Super Bowl championship love slash MVP slash
I'm going to Disney World love that I think he deserves.
Secondly, to me, he outplayed Patrick Mahomes
in two Super Bowls.
He just happened to lose the last Super Bowl
that they played, but he actually outplayed
Patrick Mahomes in the first Super Bowl that they played against each other.
And he had a late fumble, which changed momentum in the last Super Bowl, which they could have probably won.
The Kansas City Chiefs won that by a field goal.
I just want to give Jalen Hurst his props, man.
Yeah, shout out to Jalen Hurst. I'll be at the parade.
I'll be at the parade.
You know. Killer, you know I got a lot of,
we had a lot of fun in Philly, Killer.
We did.
Yeah, a lot of fun.
That was a stat that I think a lot of people
didn't catch in the Super Bowl game was that
Chiefs didn't cross over the 50 yard line
until the third quarter was seven minutes to go.
I mean, that was a pretty impressive stat
to keep the off the 50 yard line,
off the 50 yard line side for three and a half quarters.
Two and a half quarters.
Well, Larry, if we keeping it super 100,
wait, wait, Mike, Mike, if we keeping it super 100,
Vegas won.
Vegas won.
Vegas won.
It wasn't the Eagles, Vegas one. It wasn't the Eagles Vegas.
One hundred.
If we, if we keep it in super one hundred and you said, had it not been for them
turnover, y'all would have been fine.
Super one hundred.
Like, I don't know where you pulled that from.
23 yards in the whole first half.
They didn't turn the ball over.
You went 23 yards.
Mike, you left out the voodoo doll, though.
You left out the voodoo doll.
Did you see the voodoo doll?
No, no, no.
Wait, listen, listen.
Hey, I swear to you.
Mike, you be in the church and all that.
You know what the voodoo doll did.
When you broke that up.
Right, when you broke that up and they started laughing, I'm like,
I ain't messing with that.
I don't want no voodoo on me.
You know what I mean?
I saw that lady, and let me tell you something.
That lady was rhythmic, so she was chanting stuff.
It wasn't like just voodoo.
It was a rhythmic continuation of it.
They were voodooing that man.
They did that voodoo.
I wouldn't have brought it up. I wouldn't have brought it up unless it was New Orleans. the continuation of it. They were voodooing that man. They did that voodooing. They do that voodooing.
I wouldn't have brought it up.
I wouldn't have brought it up unless it was New Orleans.
New Orleans, I had to take that serious.
Right.
I take that serious.
Right, right, me too.
No matter what they say, but New Orleans
is definitely one of those cities.
When I saw that, I said, oh, I see what they doing.
I see what's going on.
That's why Ali and them did the George Foreman. Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll be careful with that.
And then real quick, because I kind of wanted to further discuss that Dak Prescott quote
that you brought up, basically saying that the Cowboys are right there with the Eagles.
And I know it sounds crazy, right?
But I think it was one of those things that's like, okay, if the Eagles can beat the Chiefs,
we have the potential to do it too.
And I'm no way comparing the Cowboys to the Eagles.
But Mike, I did kind of want to know a little bit more of your thoughts on that since he
does have a career record of nine and four against the Eagles.
So he's just kind of comparing.
But what do you think about what Dak had to say?
Well, I think it's absolutely great right now to say right now. And I understand what he's
trying to mean because usually when you are a division opponent like that, you play each other
so much, you know each other so well that yeah, you can play that team tight. I mean, each year
that we won a Super Bowl, Washington wasn't very good, but then we would go to Washington and they would beat us.
The year we were one in 15, we didn't win a game.
The only game we won was we beat Washington
and that year they had won the Super Bowl.
So he's equating the divisional battles.
But once you come outside those divisional battles,
you have to have another notch
because you're not so familiar with the opponents.
And the Philadelphia Eagles have those other notches to go beat you in many different ways when the Dallas Cowboys have not.
So I just think that's a, that's superfluous.
That's too many words to say nothing.
Well, I'm done with the chiefs.
I'm auctioning off my red cowboy hat.
So on it is what it is.
Pay Jacques a vote how much I want to pay for the Chiefs hat.
Wait, I have a follow up question.
So if you're done with the Chiefs,
where are you in Philly right now?
Like where are you at?
Are you switching to basketball solely like on the move?
Title town is on the move, baby.
I told you I got to be at the parade on Friday
Philly accepts me. Okay, do that actually every Philly fan every Eagles fan
Please let us know in the comments down below if you guys are accepting Mace
To join y'all I would love to know
to join y'all. I would love to know.
We can make that a poll.
They gotta accept the founder and the president
of Titletown.
All I do is come to promote the trophy, you know?
Now how would you feel if you see me with the trophy on?
I would feel some type of way.
You would?
You would not be part of the Eagles Titletown train.
You just wouldn't.
So I'm gonna leave it up to the real Philly fans
so they can let us know how they're feeling.
Okay, we are gonna go to break. When we return, we will discuss this Super Bowl
halftime show performance. Don't go anywhere. She call this thing about toxic
Poor years and counting
Got you feeling like a option
Maybe I'm her own problem, babe
She tired of hearing I don't know
What's up and then me won't fall, oh, oh
Killing with this thing called trust
But she really thinkin' my words
She wanna be free
Why am I here? This woman way free
Hell, I don't wanna see her walk away
I wish somebody told me to lose.
Disagreements let them win, then it's clear when it's cool.
Even when I'm right, this ain't about...
Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog picks of the day.
Tonight, the Bucs will play the Timberwolves.
Underdog has Anthony Edwards at 30 and a half points.
Do you have him higher or lower, Mace?
Who they play again?
The... what? The B what, the Bucks.
Bucks and symbols.
Higher, going higher.
Yeah, Greek freak is out.
Should have a field day, higher.
Okay, Damian Lillard's at 26 and a half points.
Do you have him higher or lower, Cam?
Greek freak is out.
He should be scoring as well.
Yeah, higher.
Okay, and Kuzma's at one and a half, three pointers made. Do you have
him higher or lower, Mase? I'm going higher. I haven't seen him play with the Bucks yet.
This be a grab. I'm going to make sure I tune into that game tonight. See if he, is his
hair still blonde? I think so. Lower. We'll see how it, we'll see how it is when he plays though. So,
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So now it's time for us to discuss
this halftime performance by Kendrick Lamar,
which the stats are saying this is the most viewed
halftime show ever.
It peaked at 133 and a half million viewers
with guest appearances by Samuel Jackson,
his uncle Sam, Serena Williams, and SZA.
Mike, what were your thoughts on this halftime show performance?
Well, I thought it was an incredible performance.
I mean, when you look at the scope of all that he did, all of the people in sync and going red, white, and blue, and all of
the messages that he put in that performance.
I thought it was an incredible performance.
Now, I'm a bit biased because, as I told you guys, I watched the Michael Jackson performance
live in Pasadena, and to me, that was the standard.
That was the standard.
But the Kendrick Lamar did a hell of a job
in delivering a hell of a message in so many ways.
You can tell I never met him
because he's a pretty smart, slick guy.
Artist, I should say,
a pretty smart, slick, delivering artist.
Mike, what was the message that he sent in your arm from your vantage point? Dude, he was sending so many messages having Uncle Sam out there,
Sam was playing Uncle Sam.
There was a lot in there.
I mean, you could tell.
And even the way he played
with Drake
You know, he didn't just chop his head off the game all the time to stay out still slow stabbing
You know, yeah, I can't play this for them. They sue me
I'm gonna do it anyway
Yeah, it was a lot of.
Tell them and have and have another man have a Serena
up there having that man. They're balanced like that.
And if somebody I saw it on social media somewhere where Drake was saying,
you know, you give your heart to something and all of that.
And it just kind of household it like that.
I was like, wow, this is, yeah, this is really, hey, man.
I see how this rap stuff gets you back in the corner
you really wanna take a nigga out.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this.
Y'all taking this. Y'all taking this. Y'all taking this. Y'all taking this. Y'all taking this. Y'all taking this. Boosie says, Serena giving her hurt vibes.
Nigga love, that's what Boosie says.
He said, Boosie said, I'm getting madder,
nigga love me vibes from that.
Go hang out with this nigga.
We gonna do a show, I gotta get Boosie,
you gotta get Boosie on the show.
Boosie knows sports, Boosie's really good.
As far as the, look, it was a great performance.
I've seen a lot of mixed reviews about the performance.
Some people say it wasn't good.
Some people say it was dope.
I think that me personally, it was dope for Kendrick Lamar
cause he didn't capitulate.
He didn't say, I'm gonna do the halftime show
that everybody wants to see.
I'm gonna bring you to my world.
I'm not gonna necessarily be, have a bunch of, you know,
theatricals that people usually have. He said, I'm going to bring the Super Bowl
and the audience into my world, whether you like it or not, come into my world.
But it was really personal.
The shit that you just said, Mike, looking in the camera, playing games
with Drake like that, saying his name throughout the performance.
And then at the very end of the shit, they could put game over like I'm done with you type vibes.
You know what I'm saying?
So I thought it was a great performance.
I think that Kendrick Ma was a great actor.
Was it my favorite Super Bowl performance?
No, but I thought it was a great, great performance
because he didn't say I need, you know what I mean?
People was like, what song is this?
Clue Nuts, the reason I didn't know the church few songs.
But that's what I said I liked about it.
He's like learn them and Google them.
Cause you have to realize he's coming off one
and three Grammys, five Grammys, whatever it was last week.
So now off these Grammy wins, the audience wants to say,
okay, who's this guy that beat out Beyonce?
Who's this guy who beat out Taylor Swift?
Who's this guy that beat out Bruno Mars for these Grammys?
Because he swept all this category.
So they like, let's watch this.
So that was very smart of him.
Everybody's going to be watching me.
I just killed the Grammys.
Now let me show you all niggas what I do.
I'm not going to go into your world.
You're going to come into mine.
And I thought that was very smart.
Well, I'm going to speak for the people.
He wore that lowercase a necklace.
He was just sending all kinds of symbols.
The lowercase a to signify a minor is the minor eight.
It was, it was, yeah, I saw a lot of messages.
Well, I'm going to, I'm going to be an objective voice just so we can
hear what the other fans were thinking.
I didn't think it was such a great performance.
Let me start by saying, I'm watching the Superbowl.
You watch Usher, you watch Brianna, you see Michael Jackson, you see Prince.
So there's already a status regardless of what you came in to perform.
And shout out the top dog and everybody out there
in the L.A. scene.
What I was more so looking forward to was
if he would have came out with all of the people like Kam said,
bring him into his world.
His world is LA.
So if he would have brought out a bunch of gang members on stage, that would
have been something for the Superbowl to see, you know, right.
No, I mean, like representing America.
Yeah.
I'm talking about the people that were at the pop out show.
That was an amazing show.
And not taking anything away from the show,
but it just, it lacked energy for me.
I mean, even from the outfit selection,
from the lights, just everything.
It just, to me, from my understanding,
it wasn't what I thought a Super Bowl should be.
I don't think that you're taking it wrong.
I think that he just took advantage of the people
watching and said, all right, let me get niggas
to go see where I'm at.
If you like it, you like it, if you don't don't.
But I totally agree with you.
And what I'm saying is, so people don't take it
and I know they're gonna make a sound about it,
but anything, but just creatively,
even if you're going into Kendrick's world,
I would have came out with mustard.
That would have been the way you just walk out pause to where the crowd was more
hype. And then I would have gotten to euphoria, all the things,
two of the things that he did. And if you're going to district,
do the whole song, we want the whole song. I mean, you're going to get sued for it.
If he's going to sue, let them sue for the whole song. We want the whole song. I mean, you're going to get sued for it. If he's going to sue, let him sue for the whole song. I thought the people would have went
much more crazier. And if that was what he wanted to convey, he conveyed what he wanted.
So I'm not here to say he made the wrong choices, but I'm just saying from what the other people
are thinking that saying they didn't like the performance they're judging them between
Michael Jackson um who else to be totally honest with you not even not not even going back that far and he was a part of this when dr dre did it a few years ago his shit was crazy
dr kendrick was a part of that and it's a it's a energy and just like into Kendrick's credit
There's a lot of other songs that he could have performed that he did and that was for that time
But I guess he was just into introducing people to his new music
So I have a lot of thoughts and I'll keep it short
Uh, I actually attended my first Super Bowl. So I was there when I first seen it. I
I actually attended my first Super Bowl, so I was there. When I first seen it, I didn't know how I felt about it.
I had to go back and re-watch it via the TV,
because it looks very different based on the field
versus how it's performed towards the TV.
But I think he did a great job of representing who he is,
because there were a lot of slight messages
that a lot of people didn't fully understand to begin with, because really with Samuel Jackson being
Uncle Sam, him saying, oh, Kendrick, don't do that song.
This is too ghetto. This is too loud.
And then by obeying Uncle Sam, he switched gears and then went to humble
and did what was considered popular for the masses.
It wasn't supposed to be, let me just play what everybody wants to hear.
It was supposed to be, I'm sending a message.
It's Black History Month.
I'm on one of the biggest stages of the year.
And I'm going to represent black people.
That's what I got from it.
And I know, you know, people wanted to hear, I don't know, like, we going to be
all right and different things, but that's why it was like, as he disobeyed
Uncle Sam's messages,
it kind of took you along to tell a story.
So like that's what Samuel Jackson represented.
And, you know, people can argue about what Serena represented, but she is from Compton and she did her thing, which also is confusing for me because I was actually in the same suite as her.
And she got up and left and we were wondering where she went.
She went down to do the performance.
and she got up and left and we were wondering where she went. She went down to do the performance.
I think it tied in a lot of things that if you got it, you got it.
If you didn't, you didn't.
But I think that represented kind of his music and the culture as a whole.
So I think he did a great job, but I don't think it was for everybody
because it's either you understood it or you didn't really vibe with it
because it wasn't his popular hits.
But I think he took a chance and I think it was a cool chance to do
on one of the biggest stages with all those people kind of tuning in and watching.
So I get everybody's points, but that's kind of what I took from it after seeing it over.
Again, it was pretty cool.
But I totally understand where you're coming from, too, because it's like we ain't bopping,
but some people.
Yeah, no, I'm not saying you have to bop.
I'm saying whatever you're just like anything, whatever you're
whatever you're trying to convey you as a speaker, you want to make sure it's clear.
I'll tell you, I'll use an example of this.
Like when I was trying to like
when a virgin getting the deal or trying to get a deal right around,
I don't know, we don't make states, makes or whatever.
And Jay-Z was just coming out as an artist
and Nas kind of was out a little bit before Jay-Z.
And I was telling this girl, I was at this girl house,
I'm like, yo, Nas is crazy, she like, I like Jigga.
And I'm like, nah, nah, nah, nah, yo.
And she like, Kim, I like Jigga.
I don't have time to go to the club
and bring my addiction every with me.
I just wanna have a good time when I go to the club. I don't feel like thinking.
If I'm taking a long car ride, maybe I want to think, but when I go out, I don't need my
dictionary with me. And I always kept that in mind when I wrote. There's certain things are for
certain things and certain things are for certain things. You know what I'm saying? So
maybe that's what this kind of is. Yeah. Yeah.
Last thing I will say, what he did kind of have in there,
he said, the revolution will be televised.
You picked the right time, but the wrong guy.
So he kind of said, look, I'm here.
Just said that two weeks ago.
I'm just saying, but he changed it up a little bit
and said it on the stage, so hey.
What's your remix of shit?
Hey, I'm just saying.
There's always some shit we just say, man. What's the revolution? And y'all did just say that. I know that. So hey, hey, I'm just I'm just saying
This is my Kendrick, what's the revolution I want to know the revolution what's the revolution
Help me out. It's up for interpretation
That's the cans point. Not everybody wants to be reading the whole book
Hey, if you read the book read book, so book. So that's all I'm gonna say.
Let us know in the comments what you guys think about the halftime performance.
A lot of different parts to it.
But that's kind of the... I think that's the fun of it.
Us all kind of breaking it down.
Okay. So Chiefs fans in Swifties have been leaving fake bad reviews
to C.J. Gardner Johnson's Mother's Restaurant in Florida
after he trolled Travis
Kelsey saying he should have stayed with that thick shit.
Mike, do you think he was wrong for what he said?
And then how do you feel about the reactions from the fans going on his mom's restaurant's
page leaving bad reviews?
Wait, the social guard just said he should have stayed with that thick shit?
Yes.
The same thing that made me start this relationship.
I got it.
Right.
Right.
And now.
Mike, you trying to get me intact, Mike?
Right.
Right.
And now, and now, they're writing bad reviews.
I mean, come on, man.
We gotta, we gotta be careful with this the man that man they take the white woman over the black woman
He took the green over all women and I can dig that and understand it
You know what I mean? Don't let that man do his thing. But but but I
Wasn't beautiful girl yet
That was that the gold girl was beautiful girl.
And did y'all see her struggling too?
She was, there was no one more happy than her.
Cause it was like she did, she know that's the only way,
and I know I ain't on the football field,
that's the only way I can bring pain
to them rich jokers over there.
And she enjoyed that moment.
And I saw her many clips having a good time.
So, you know, I don't know if that's the reason,
that you lose a black woman and go to the white woman,
and now you lose, but, you know, yeah.
So, you can say that.
Real quick, for context for what Mike is saying,
she is seen on the field, throwing up the what Mike is saying, she is seen on the field
throwing up the the Eagles confetti and like celebrating on the field.
Talking about Travis Kelsey, I've seen that video.
I was like, yo, bitches be hurt.
This would be hurt. And that's what Boosie meant about Serena.
I know this is why I call him Serena, bitch or whatever.
But this is what this is the shit.
Because you got to realize, get over it.
All this shit, like it ain't like,
it ain't like it was last year,
even with Serena Drake, homegirl, with Travis.
Niggas, they be in the house hurt,
murder, watching this shit like,
yeah, they keep showing this bitch Taylor Swift
every two fucking seconds.
This, they got, it's sting, Pete. You know, I'm saying sting because anybody who doing they think
Moved on getting money got a new relationship or anything else is not dwelling on they ex nigga
Not purposely going to Philly. I'm not saying I don't know where she's from. Maybe she is from Philly
I have no idea but the point being is they're not dwelling on the old nigga and doing this.
I'm not dwelling on none of my old bitches.
I don't give a fuck what they doing, yo.
I do not care what none of my old hoes is doing.
I'm not even, you know how sometimes you be like,
I hope they not doing, I hope they doing great.
I wish that, I hope all y'all, my ex-girl,
I hope y'all living wonderfully.
Cause you know why?
I know they sneaking over and they sneaking when I'mall, I'm my ex-girlfriend, I hope y'all living wonderfully. Cause you know why? I know they sneaking over and they sneaking
when I'm done.
I know it.
And I know it hurt.
I know it hurt.
I know it hurt.
Cause they counted me out and they still counting.
You know what I'm saying?
They been counting me out for 30 years.
Niggas still counting.
So, for me.
Can you with all of your old friends, still make a phone call and they'll still listen
to you or hear you or chat with you to all of those old friends?
See that's a great question, Mike.
That's a great question because what I was telling Mason Staff probably a year ago is that I always end up leaving.
The last time a girl left me was in second grade. I put gum in her hair. Girls don't leave me.
So it hurts sometimes. But the answer to your question is that I could communicate with the
girls who moved on. So girls who have an attitude and still have pain, they still have an attitude with you.
I have girls now, right? A girl may say something, and I may say something on the show and get my
ears confused because a lot of shit went on in my life since I was 92, 93, since I was in high school.
So I'll sit there and say, yo, about 2005, I remember me and this girl doing this and this and a girl I even mess with like,
you was with me in 05.
So I'm just a little confused on how you was with her in 05
when we were supposed to be doing this.
And I said, well, maybe I got the motherfucking arrow.
I don't fucking know.
But it's funny, I do have two or three ex-friends,
I actually spoke to one of my ex-girlfriends
yesterday, congratulating us on the show and everything else. You know why? Because she
getting money and she getting other things. She got other shit going on. She has three hair salons
in Chicago. She travels the world. She goes on vacation two weeks at a time every other month.
She has employees. She has dates. When you don't have nothing going on,
and you have nothing else to ponder on, it's not going to be a healthy relationship because you
have nothing to do all day, but watch what I'm doing or what anybody else is. And I only have
to be me. When you're busy, you can't focus on that, Mike. So to answer your question, I got a couple, but I got some that stings so bad
because the Bruce Leroy glow didn't go nowhere.
You understand what I'm saying?
Look, Mike, I'm sensational.
Niggas still be wanting me to play jello ball.
I'll be having to remind niggas how old I am.
I'm like, what do you mean play a one-on-one?
Man, I'm trying to play in the 40 and over league.
You get what I'm saying?
Because I got so much swag or res, parm,
and I look good and the young girls is on me.
And then they like, you know, nostalgia is in, Mike.
I know, matter of fact, me and Mike,
we talked like behind the scenes.
He know, he know, he know they on us.
He know they on us.
They on us, Mike.
I don't know they on us, man. So man, Mike talks.
Let me tell you the difference because I've always said, anytime there's a departure,
I want them thinking that's...
Departure. I like departure.
Right, right, right. You want them thinking that's on their kind. Because see, like, okay, they don't even come after you.
You rap, the rappers or artists and anything like that.
But football players, they know I'm a CUD.
So you know what I'm saying?
They try to hold your hostage.
So if I tell if it's on them, if it's on them, then they don't hold your hostage.
You know, I said, girl, you broke my heart.
I give you those words, you broke my heart,
you know, stuff like that.
But yeah.
Yeah, see, the thing about that, Mike,
the thing about that for me, Mike, is that
if it's on them, I'll still be in a relationship.
I can't sit around happy and wait for them to be like,
let me do dumb shit so they can leave me
because they'll just put up with it.
I'm just telling you what I heard.
I don't know nothing about it.
Just tell y'all what I heard.
You know, there's some things you learn
by going through it,
and there's some things you learn by picking up a book.
I just listen to other people.
You ain't gotta explain this.
So, you know, that's how I got that information.
Yeah, so, Killa, I wanted to ask you something
before we go to the next topic.
Do you think like the Beef Week, Kendrick,
and Drake is over now?
It seemed like from Kendrick's,
the thing about this, it seemed like from Kendrick's, the thing about this,
it seemed like from Kendrick's point of view,
he put game over,
but you gotta realize he's about to go on tour.
So the song gonna be out in another three, four months,
and you're gonna see it on the internet,
you're gonna see it on social media,
and you're gonna see it YouTube.
You're gonna see it.
So the song's not about to go away
because now he's actually gonna go on tour.
So it could be over for Kendrick, but I don't know.
I haven't spoken to Drake or anything until at the end of the day.
Like Mike said, and I'm not promoting this after all this shit.
And not just, not just the Super Bowl.
You have a lot of people and if you didn't see it, uh, yesterday, I put out an
episode of Talk with Flea where I actually talked about the battle.
Make sure you go check out Talk with Flea where I talked about Kendrick Lamar on episodes out now.
You don't really know where Drake's mindset is at because it isn't just the battle.
You got niggas that you fuck with now rocking with niggas that don't even know Kendrick.
So, send this to my attention to where
Drake may have wrote something for somebody.
Or helped them do a hook or vice versa.
And now they having Super Bowl halftime parties.
So my,
dun dun dun dun, you know what I'm saying?
So niggas is like, you know, you taking a list probably
like when this nigga need to go platinum, all right, so you don't, you know, you take in a list probably, like when this nigga need to go platinum,
all right, so you don't, you know,
I don't know where his mod state is at.
So is it over?
I don't know.
But me personally, when niggas ask my opinion about it,
it's like this, look, Drake can rap
and I'm not taking that away from him.
But to me, I said this on the show
and y'all could, like I said, get more in depth.
Is he losing this particular battle?
Yes, Kendrick Lamar could rap,
but the one thing is that the West Coast
will not stop supporting, especially a rapper
in their prime.
When they do this shit right here, it isn't just LA.
It's the whole state of California.
It's Oregon.
It's Washington.
It's New Mexico.
It's Arizona.
It's Nevada.
And Drake isn't from New York,
but I was explaining that you can't even get New York
to say New York.
You got, I'm from Brooklyn, nigga.
Fuck you talking about.
I'm a Queens nigga, nigga.
Fuck you talking about.
Nigga, nigga, nigga, over the years,
yeah, Queens over there now.
I Harlem.
Yeah, Queens get the money, niggas.
You know what I'm saying?
Niggas doing all this Bronx, you know what I'm saying?
New York can't even say New York.
So when you do this shit,
this unifies a whole section of the United States
to where you can't even say the East Coast
because niggas is sectioning off the small part of town
that they're from.
So I don't know if it's over now,
it's a great question, I can't answer it.
Yeah.
The reason why I say that is because when you when you're dealing with rap battles,
there's a lot that goes into battle.
Sometimes you could beat a person rap wise, but you can't beat all the street antics that
come with them.
And a lot of times people get over on the street antics and not actually could beat
the rapper rapping.
You know, but I think I think this was a really good battle.
I do. I do believe I look at Drake and Kendrick like.
Kendrick won a popular vote, and it just superseded anything that Drake could have done.
And I think when it comes to battle rap, Kendrick is probably a better battle rap.
I think people agree with that. And that Drake is just a better song maker.
And sometimes you're a better song maker, but you gotta pick your battles wisely.
You definitely gotta pick them wisely.
But see, that's the thing, Mason, and not to linger on on this.
I kind of agree with you, but if you ask West Coast niggas, they're gonna say he's not a better song maker.
I'm not saying that right or wrong,
they're gonna support no matter what, yo.
It's not even an argument.
What you mean he got songs?
He just won the Grammys, right?
And even though it's for a diss record,
y'all realize Drake won the Grammy off a diss record.
So it isn't like Drake doesn't understand this.
To me, Kendrick Lamar makes great music as well.
It's just that Drake is more rounded, I would say.
Who's a better rapper than you?
As rappers.
Yeah, just rap.
It depends on what you want to hear. It's the same thing to me.
Like that's why I gave the Nas, Jay-Z comparison. Do you want to
think? Do you want to sit there and break down the lyrics and
sit there and say, read the message, so to speak?
According to hip hop, who is the better?
I'm not hip hop. I'm not kidding.
You're a man, Oscar.
Wait, wait, wait.
Yeah, Mike.
Mike, I'm trying to have honest conversation, you know?
Because now it's about what you want for that day.
Like, for real day like for real like
or some G shit I'm not even being funny is because I listen we we listen to Jay-Z
is hustler motivation shit you know I'm saying like yo that shit motivates you
to go get some money now shit he got that with him but then he go do it so
like I know I can I know I really don't relate to me
You know I'm sure it's about kind of what you want at the time
But then Nas is sit there and make shootouts and say to check Tanisha fat ass real fly with the glass Caesar
to see the Fed
Some of Tom Feddy Cheney. She pushed a two-seater. Yeah, you know say he got a little bit of all that
So it's about your taste at the particular time for us.
Well, these are great questions.
We still didn't get an answer.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, he spent 360 waves with the new brush.
Everybody else spent it.
With the new brush.
Yeah, shout out to Kendrick and shout out to Drake.
It's just hip hop, man.
That's the way to really look at it.
Nobody take this, be offended.
Just get in the booth and pause.
Go harder, because that's what hip hop is.
Sometimes that's just the way it goes.
Sometimes you're better than people and they like the other person more.
That's how it goes.
It goes like that even with ladies, you know, you got to get over it.
Yeah. Great points.
You know, I'm not the voice of hip hop or rap.
That is, you know, I am the voice of Gen Z.
And I'm going to say, regardless, we still bump in Kendrick and we bump in Drake.
So do what you want with that.
Listen to who you want to listen to.
At the end of the day, the discussion is still going to keep continuing
because people have their views and that's that.
But with that being said,
that is all the time we have for today.
Mike, it was a pleasure to have you
all of this football season.
I'm gonna miss you, Mike, man.
Yo, man, it was great having you on the show, bro.
We love you, man.
Where Mike going?
Football season?
Oh, you want football season, Mike? Mike, I'll let you on the red cowboy love you man. Where Mike going? Football season. Oh you want football season Mike? Mike I'll let you
own the red cowboy hat man if they don't buy it you know. Yo Mike we got it we got a call we got a call to the
agency what else we could do man we gotta wait till next season if not man but yo
thank you so much you bought so much knowledge credibility and and your
personality to the show man we can't thank you more than enough
for being part of the show.
And I gained a great new friend, man.
I love the show as well, man.
I just want to tell you, I love you,
and thank you so much for being a part of this.
Yes.
Yeah, Mike, thank you.
And I appreciate you guys.
And also, they told me down there in Atlanta
that T.I. was actually the first guy
that had the sweater
you know over his shirt like that so he actually wasn't the guy.
But we appreciate you being here Mike and we look forward to using the glass house.
Yeah Mike it was a pleasure and thanks for being my Miami partner.
Yeah.
Uncle YSL.
Till next time, Uncle YSL.
I appreciate you guys too, man.
I really do, man.
I'm a football player, a pure football player.
And in order to get through life, I have to find locker rooms to help me
mitigate this crazy shit I got up here and everything. So I appreciate you guys inviting me in your locker room, inviting me in your lives and
crossing paths.
Cam, I remember when you first called me and Dion first called me, I was like, but man,
this has really been, this has made my year with me leaving the NFL Network and picking up
this has made my year because I get a chance to talk more to our people and
our way and show that side so man I love you guys man and I can't wait to do this
again. I'm about to cry man. That's what's up Mike, you family now Mike. You family, Mike, and we mean that.
I'm glad you brought that up.
Big shout out to Coach Proud for helping
make this unite with our relationship.
Thank you, Coach Proud for introducing me to Mike
and putting this relationship together, man.
Thank you guys both.
For sure.
Okay, well, love you guys.
Love you guys.
Love you too, Mike.
Thanks, Dion.
Thanks, Mike. Thank y'all for watching. Love you too, man. Thanks, Dion.
Thanks, Mike.
Thank y'all for watching!