IT IS WHAT IT IS - MA$E EXPECTED MORE FROM JORDAN POOLE & CAM IS FED UP TALKING ABOUT THESE BUMS | S3. EP.50

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

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What's up, man? Killer, what's good, man? How you doing, you all right? Yeah, man. Seems you're imitating me. I was coming with one of you today, but I want to get my vocabulary together. So tomorrow, I'm going to be doing a mace impression tomorrow.

But I said, I didn't have the words that I needed. You have an extensive vocabulary and it ranges from different genres, so to speak. So I wanted to compile them all. But you did a good job it's pretty good man it's pretty good i don't know if i say everything you said but you had the voice and everything it's pretty good man yeah he kept saying shut up in the back i was like kim doesn't say that it's pretty good man i Also, I heard you say that Michael Jackson can't dance as good as Chris Brown, man. That was crazy, man.

I don't know. That's a good one. But I know who dances better than all of them. Who? MC Hammer. MC Hammer won. MC Hammer won the problems with Mike. I don't know if you remember he challenged Mike to a dance.

Yeah, Mike ain't do it. That's what I'm saying. See, people wasn't there. Like your famous quote, he wasn't there. Yeah, that's the thing. People didn't know that Mike didn't want that smoke. Yeah, Mike ain't want no smoke with MC Hammer. MC Hammer wanted problems with Mike.

Yeah, he kept trolling him, too. Yeah, what about Genuine? Genuine. Genuine. Genuine Genuine He had the little broom He went boogaloo He had a two step

He ain't fucking with Chris Nah I'll put up the prime time MC Hammer, though. I would like to see that one. I would definitely like to see that one. Because Mike definitely didn't want to smoke when MC Hammer, he offered him a dance battle.

But then again, at the same time, Mike was so, Mike was like, because Hammer was popping, but he wasn't Michael Jackson. Okay, so Otto Porter Jr. announced he's retiring after 11 seasons in the NBA. What did you guys think of his announcement? To start off with Otto Porter Jr., I think he was,

I think he did as much as he could do with his body. Paul's holding up the way it did i mean he's he's been severely injured a long time um it looked like he only played about 23 games in the last two seasons after he left golden state and got that championship the good thing is that he was able to win a championship with golden state what was that in 2020 2022 yeah yeah and coming from georgetown you know i expected him to have a better career but you know sometime it doesn't work out like that the basketball guys had different things planned but i'm looking forward to see what else

he's gonna do you know in his life because he's really young to be retiring. It's only 30 years old, really 10 years after being 21. This is really interesting to see what else he would do because he got a lot of time, probably made a lot of money, hopefully made a lot of investments and got a good life ahead of him. Hopefully, he'll be a GM or something. It seemed like the best GMs are people that had, you know, these type of things happen to them sometimes. So who knows? But shout out to him and the Porter family. You really looking forward to see what he's doing in the future?

You going to check him on that? You're like, yo, I wonder what Otto Porter Jr. is doing. Like, yo, it's been two years. I wonder what Otto Porter Jr. is doing. You don't care what he's going to do in the future. That's a lie.

He's a Georgetown. You're getting corporate. He's a Georgetown alum. He's a Georgetown alum. That shit sounded whack. It was real corporate, bro. I'm looking forward to see what the Porter family has

Yo pack it up Porter Jr Yo pack it up nigga You had them A couple of this season Golden State You left You took that bread

I ain't mad at you For taking that chicken But niggas wasn't Been looking for you Since you left Golden State Pack it on up man You won't really be missed It ain't like you gonna be missed Mace right You stopped at an early age But Pack it on up, man. You won't really be missed. It ain't like you're going to be missed.

Mace, right? You stopped at an early age, but pack it on up. I'm not checking on you. Mace is lying. He will not be checking to see what you're doing in the next few years. Now, if your name come up, they're like, oh, Otto Porter Jr., they just hired him as the... Okay, they'll be like, oh, yeah,

homeboy who played for Golden State. Caught the check for $100 million once he left Golden State. Okay, they'd be like, oh yeah, homeboy who played for Golden State. Quit the check for 100 million once he left Golden State. Look, maybe, but as far as murder digging to see what you're doing in the future, that's a lie, my nigga.

I'm not checking neither. Just for the record. Yo, you made some bread. I was looking at your contract. You made some bread. Mace is 100% right. This is really early for you to be retired. In Golden State, you was really good.

After that, I don't know if you was good or not. I stopped keeping up with you, to be totally honest with you. But you did help them win that championship. And I don't know if it's injuries or anything else, but the reason why I don't know, because I ain't been keeping up with you. I don't know what the fuck you really been going through to be honest with you but I wish

you luck and I hope you do have a bright future because this is kind of young but as far as us digging in a thousand a year or two or three that nigga lying he's about to show off lying that's an outright lie like yo killer you ever wonder what all the Porter Juniors doing?

This nigga's Catholic. Good luck, though, nigga. Yo, he's a part of Georgetown, man. You got to check up on the Hoyas. Where's Victor Page at? That's what I was about to say. Where's he at? You need to find out where Victor Page is at.

You should be checking up on all the Hoyas. Where's Victor Page and them niggas at? Yeah, don't forget about Victor Page. Where's Patrick Ewan Jr. at? They fired him a few years ago. Where's he at? You been checking on him? Where's Patrick Ewan Sr. at?

You ain't checking on the Hoyas. You ain't been checking on them niggas, man. I know where Pat is. And pardon me, I didn't mean Patrick Ewan Jr. Pardon me, John Thompson. John Thompson Jr. John Thompson Jr. was coaching. They can't.

That nigga a few years ago. You ain't check on that nigga. This is a pandemic. All right. Say no more. All right, bet. What a lovely way to start off this show. Okay, so former 49ers quarterback Sam Darnold

signed with the Vikings for a one-year deal worth up to $10 million. Do you guys think the Vikings made a good pickup? Or do you think that they're in shambles? They got to be in shambles. I mean, the Vikings got to be in shambles I mean yeah the Vikings gotta be in shambles it seemed like

they'd just be giving the money away especially there was the team that kept franchising Kurt Kurt right

Kurt got a franchise they did and so did the Redskins I believe yeah the Knicks and the Vikings just be throwing the money away.

I mean, I don't like this at all. I'm not going to cap right here. I don't like this at all. I mean, he was the backup for Purdy, but how much do you think he really learned backing up a rookie quarterback? And he's not a rookie. I don't think that helps. It's not like rookie there's i don't think that helps it's not like

he was backing up you know um oh tom brady or he was backing up um hertz or one of them you know i'm saying is nah i'm not going with this to say that they gave him 10 million dollars get your money you know but you better perform. Whenever people start getting them one-year contracts, this is a show-me year. He's going to have to prove something. I mean, he only started 17 games when he was with Charlotte

and they packed him up. So I'm going to go with that vibe. This is where you pack him up. Pack them up Once again, thank God murder did the homework cuz I'm keeping up with you Neva nigga I don't know what the fuck been going on. She was popping like three four years ago You supposed to be that nigga end up not being that nigga I'm not on your journey with you bro to figure out what team or what person you gonna back up next

You you have the chance a lot of niggas don't realize you it's very rare very very rare like you got let's see you get geno smith yeah you get uh i'm talking people who get second chances you got uh your man in tampa bay who just signed re-signed um Baker Mayfield. Yeah. You could probably, on both hands, count in the last 20 years how many people get a second chance after you get a first chance to come back. And a good one.

Yeah, absolutely. Teddy Bridgewater got a few shots. You know, he kept getting hurt, but it's very rare that they give you a second and third opportunity. Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, Jameson Winston. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Exactly. You know what I mean? So I think, like you said, how much did he really learn back in Purdy up? And Purdy, I don't get it fucked up. Purdy had a great season, but his experience in the league is- Yeah, he was figuring it out. Purdy was figuring it out.

So it's not like he probably had a consistent regimen. He was figuring out his regimen. So you can't leave with that blueprint because he's still figuring it out. So where maybe Kirk Cousins wanted more money or the Vikings field. A. Tom was up with Kirk Cousins or I know he got hurt at the end of the season. They didn't want to risk it. But I would much rather have Kirk Cousins than Sam. So I don't know if they can. I know his contract was up. I don't know if they could reconfigure it

or what the problem was. But I would like to bring Kirk Cousins back, even though they haven't got it done in the last few seasons he's been there. I think. Why would you want him back? It's better than the option they have now. This is what you end up with. Look, at the end of the day,

it's not easy to find a decent quarterback in the NFL, and especially, and I'm not saying Kirk Cousins is a franchise player, but, you know, one year they just got robbed. You know, they were supposed to go to, I believe it was at least the conference championship. But Kirk Cousins is pretty good. He racked up a lot of money, but he's definitely 10 times better than Sam. I would definitely want to ride with Kirk Cousins is pretty good. He racked up a lot of money, but he's definitely 10 times better than Sam.

I would definitely want to ride with Kirk Cousins. You would have gave Sam Donald how much money if he was the GM? I don't know. I have to look at his contract and look at his numbers because I know they're basing everything off that. Like, even with the Baker Mayfield shit, I'm like, damn, he snatched 100.

But this was his first Pro Bowl season, I believe, off the top of my head. I believe he had 25 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, threw for over 4,000 yards. He had a career season. It didn't even seem like it. I didn't even know all this until his contract came up. But when you're negotiating contracts, I guess all those stats matter.

So I don't know Sam Donald's stats off the top of my head, and I'm not sure, but I'm figuring. Last time he was good, he had, in that NFC game, remember he had about 297 yards, two touchdowns, and one interception. Okay. What year was that? 22, probably. 23.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. More the story is, if he's getting that, I think that everybody's value is going up because during the free agency the last couple days, the money I'm seeing, I'm like, oh, he's trying to pay football players a little bit, man.

Because football players, you know, I never really understood it. I get it, but it'd be like, yo, they signed for 100 million 40 million guaranteed there's centers of 60 million dollars of shit you have to do

to get the other 60 like you in the NBA Steph Curry 250 million 250 million now yeah

you know what I'm saying even with what they call it when you resting yeah with low management pours. Yeah, now he's getting $300 million in on low management. Right, and I think that needs to be worked out in the contracts as well

because look what Ben Simmons is doing. Yeah. So I don't know how it's supposed to go, but $60 million and not guaranteed is crazy. So you think there should be a Ben Simmons rule? Call it the Ben Simmons rule? Apparently football is already doing it. Yeah, they done figured it out.

Yeah, exactly. Niggas is not going to do that. Yeah, you're not just going to come here and walk away with all the money. I mean, as far as basketball is concerned, you see little, it's a lot of little details and everybody's contract is different. Look, J. Will,

you know, this is when a team is investing in you and spending tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars on you and they're going to find out your habits,

they're going to find out what kind of females you like, they're going to find out what you eat, where you stay, etc. Because when the Chicago Bulls gave J. Will that contract and they say,

you're good as long as you don't get hurt on a motorcycle, then you get your money. How the fuck they know he could potentially get hurt on a motorcycle? Career ending shit, too, as a matter of fact. You know what I'm saying? Same thing with Zion this season that's going on now. If you're over a certain amount of pounds, you don't get paid. If you got X amount of body fat pores on you, you don't get paid. And I think it needs to be leaning more towards that. Not necessarily,

you got to have 700 touchdowns to get an extra million dollars. It's a bunch of participation, I would say. So just circling back to your point about having Kirk Cousins over Sam Darnold, the discussion right now is that Kirk Cousins is robbing the NFL with his high contracts. Do you guys agree? I just want to know what you guys think before we move to the next topic. No, I don't think so. You know why? Because Kirk Cousins, and I should have checked this out before I come. I'll check it out probably when Murda starts talking about me personally. That's what happens, you friends. Kirk Cousins has been on himself year after year after year after year,

not taking long-term deals, being franchise tagged. And that also means you could get hurt. So you get hurt without a long-term deal and you're only in a one-year deal. Now, granted, they was 20, 25, $30 million years for him, but it wasn't longevity. It wasn't until like seven or eight years, I don't know off the top of my head, until

he ended up getting a longevity contract, a long-term contract, because niggas didn't want to pay him. So he's like, fine, I'll take the one year. So as far as him robbing people, I would say people are saying that because he's not winning, people are saying that because he's not winning but i'm not mad at a nigga who uh i don't want to use beat the system i want to say that on itself yeah you put the system in place y'all tried to send me out i let y'all do it for me then i figured out sending me out was working for me so i ended up getting a long-term contract. So that's just my opinion. If the answer to the question

is no, I don't think he's robbing people. I think he's figured out a system that wasn't made for him or NFL players and used it to his advantage. Well, I would say I think his agent

is doing a hell of a job. Whoever his agent is is the agent of the year. He's the real MVP. He's the one that consistently, you know, make these deals happen. I wouldn't be surprised

if it's his mom, you know? Remember I was telling you that a mother's love goes a far way. You're not paying Lamar about that, bro. You didn't. You didn't.

You didn't believe Lamar could get it done. You say you need an agent. Yeah, I'm telling you, whoever his agent is, you're doing a great job. Can we find out who his agent is? Because this is the guy that keeps making it happen. It could be a woman. Mike McCartney. Mike McCartney.

Shout out to Mike McCartney. Is he with Clutch Sports? I don't think so. Mike McCartney. Shout out to Mike McCartney. Is he with Clutch Sports? I don't think so. That guy is good. Yeah, I'm looking at this. Niggas can't get mad at Kurt. Niggas franchise. How many times?

That's a good question. How many times was Kurt Cousins franchise tag? Because I remember as a time period it was just like god damn they changed that shit up the rule up to where you can only franchise tag a nigga a certain amount of time

yeah he was franchise tag two times back to back so and was and both both teams when he played with the Redskins too

there gotta be more than twice Washington twice and what about Vikings yeah let me know figured it out There's got to be more than twice. Washington twice. And what about... Vikings? Yeah. Let me know.

He figured it out for himself, man. Yeah, he figured out what worked for him. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you can only get franchise tag twice, but it was annoying. I was like, yo, get that nigga that bread. I like Kirk Cousins, man. I do.

Yeah. And he had a no tag clause with the Vikings. So no. Yeah. Answer your question. What's a no tag clause? Can't tag me, nigga. If I come over here, y'all niggas can't franchise tag me.

Paul. Yeah. That's when people really want you. You got to say, I got a no tag clause. Yeah, you can't tag me. And that's one of those situations. It's like almost with the NBA is no trade. You can't just trade me if you want to. You can't just decide tomorrow you're going to put me in a three-way.

Right here. False trade. Okay. So speaking of another quarterback, Commanders agreed to a one-year deal with QB, Marcus Mariota. Do you guys like this move for them? I don't care about him. Mariota been sticking it up for years, man.

Marcus Mariota, he had high expectations when he was coming in the NFL, yo. Very high expectations. I remember his name. Yeah, nigga. He was fucking, he was fucking he was he was that nigga in college

and then he came to the NFL he had a star position and he started stinking it up and then he became Ryan Tannehill's backup

if I'm not mistaken and then when Ryan Tannehill got hurt he got a he got a a job starting with them niggas in Tennessee.

He stuck it up. Wasn't he with the Eagles? I thought he was with the Eagles. He was with one of them too, right? What did he play for? All the teams. Yeah, let me check. Yeah, he played with the Eagles.

That's what I remember. Yeah, but he's like from Oregon or some shit. Like, off the top of my head, I'm not sure. That nigga's from Oregon. He was like that nigga in college. He's from Hawaii. No, I'm not sure. That nigga's from Oregon. He was like that nigga in college.

He's from Hawaii. No, I'm talking about he played for Oregon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

like, he was Bo Nix before Bo Nix. He was that nigga out there. He was definitely supposed to be a great quarterback. Yeah,

and he turned out to be Christian Laitner, not even. So, he played for the Titans 2015 to 2019, Raiders 2020 to 2021 Falcons 2022

2023 the Eagles. And get right. Yeah. So I mean whatever if niggas want to pay the nigga

I'm not mad at him. And he got drafted to a good a team that gave him some gave him a shot. It wasn't like he was he never got a shot.

Yeah, absolutely. This is what we're talking about. You're not going to get a lot of opportunities to be a starting quarterback again in the NFL, but what they understand is that even if your second string, I don't know if he's going to start with commanders or not, because I know they're doing a lot of moving around, but even

if your second string or third string, what coaches need is not necessarily a Pro Bowl quarterback. They need somebody who understands the game, understands the commitment, understands it may be the next man up if somebody gets hurt. So I think that's the place he's at in his career right now. Okay. They better not start him.

Yeah. Magic Johnson over there trying to rebuild a command. that's the place he's at in his career right now. Okay. They better not start him. Yeah. Magic Johnson over there trying to rebuild the commanders. We're banking on you, Magic, to get the right guy in there, man. Okay. Also, speaking of not starting quarterbacks, the list goes on, y'all. The Patriots finalized a trade sending Mac Jones to the Jaguars. Do you guys think he will ever start again in the NFL?

What is this? Bum ass nigga. Don't bring me back on this thing. Yo, what is this? You know these topics, right? We got to hit them in order. This is the same group. Bum ass nigga day. Just talk about all the bums across basketball and football.

You start off with the bum-ass niggas from the jump from the start of the show. You're right, because the next up is the women in the B-choice. What the fuck is we doing? What did you just say again?

Mac Jones! Mac Jones! Where's he at? Now he's with the Jaguars. So I said, do you guys think he'll ever start again in the league? Ever. He's not going to start in Jacksonville. Yeah, you're backing for Trevor Lawrence.

Look, it's another nigga. You understand the game. You understand what you need to do. Sit back. Watch this nigga get these shampoo commercials and throw these three, four thousand yards, and if he gets hurt, we'll get you in there. You know, Trevor Lawrence got hurt for a couple games last year, and I'm not sure if they trusted their backup.

I don't think Mac Jones is bad for a backup. As we see, a lot of things happen, too. You got to realize this, and niggas thought Mac Jones after that first season was going to be all right. But you're in a place and replacing somebody where there's zero tolerance for this nonsense. Like, you've got Bill Belichick out there. You're following the GOAT. Robert Kraft is probably like, look, we got a clean house because I'm not really used to this.

You know what I'm saying? Bill, this is who you wanted. This is your man. This is what happened when you bought a saying? Bill, this is who you wanted. This is your man. This is what happened when you bought a grocery. Yeah, now. And you cooked. Yeah, you know,

we let you do it with Tom Brady at work, but this, look, the fans is getting restless. Whatever. I mean, I think Mac Jones would be a better backup quarterback

than starting quarterback, but I think being with the Patriots, it's a lot of pressure. You're under one of the greatest coaches of all time, if not the greatest coach of all time, and you're replacing the greatest quarterback or arguably the greatest quarterback of all time

depending on who you're talking to. So I think he, to be all jokes aside, I think he did a decent job for being in an organization and coming right behind, pause, Tom Brady. But that's not going to get it done a decent job. Yeah, I don't know. They try to put out there that there was clubs interested in him. It was like five other clubs, four other clubs.

Nobody was interested in this. Nobody was thinking about that. Sometimes niggas think it may, I mean, I don't know the clubs you're talking about, but I'm just thinking to myself, you know, the pitch, if you're his agent, the pitch you make is,

come on, you got to think about the pressure they had on that guy. Yeah. If you put him in a backup situation, he's going to be much better for the club. Yeah, and backup situation pours, or what his agent probably trying to pitch is he could start somewhere else, just not in New England.

But he's definitely not starting in Jacksonville. How much did they offer, Matt? Everybody getting paid. I'm for that. Yeah, football players ain't getting paid right now. Yeah. Okay, so let me just reconstruct things so we don't have to go to another bum topic.

No, you can bring it up. You can come like it keeps going. This is bum nigga day. I didn't say bum topic. I said bum ass niggas. That's why I'm like the list continues. It's just a day. They need love too, I guess, guys.

Okay, so let's talk about, you know, a quarterback who doesn't have a situation yet that we've seen. So what do you guys think is next for Justin Fields? Can you guys see Chicago keeping him? Absolutely not. Go ahead, Kill. Of course they're not going to keep Justin Fields. I was looking at this last night, and it's like they're trying to find what it is.

It's this. Now they're not getting back what they think they can get from him, being that all this movement is going around during the free agency season. So now Chicago might have thought they could get more and they're not going to get what they wanted in return. So I was watching this last night and I'm like, damn, he might have to stay there. They're trying not to get him to stay there

because it's going to be an awkward situation, especially if you're drafting a quarterback first. Because the quarterback that you're drafting, obviously, you want to start him. If it's Collab Williams or whoever, Caleb Williams, pardon me, you want him to start. So it's an awkward situation i would say but from the reports that i was reading the beers aren't getting anything in return when they're trying to make a trade for him so he might end up staying there it just ended up being a backup for um for caleb because they definitely got to put caleb in a rotation i I don't see them drafting him to make

him fight for the spot. I don't see that. Yeah, I totally agree. Especially where Chicago is now. They need clear leadership. So is there any potential team that you could see him on if he were to get traded? The Jets. You can go to

the Jets and back up if you want to go there. He couldets. You can go to the Jets and back up. If you want to go there. He could back up Aaron Rodgers when he come back. Jets, Giants. Yeah. That's about it. I was thinking maybe the Raiders. Because Raiders just picked up Gardner Minshew.

And he's still technically a QB too, even though he did have a pretty good season with the Colts. Because Aiden O'Connell, I don't really know how he would perform there, but I don't know. He's in a weird situation to go from. I mean, I guess that's how the game goes to go from being QB one to being a backup

for like random teams, but I don't know. I guess we'll see what's next for Justin Fields. Listen, the problem is this. I think he would do well with New York. I don't know what weapons he would have. I'm talking about as far as the Giants are concerned. But they gave homeboy all that bread. You know what I'm saying?

They can't move him. They gave that nigga all that bread, bro, which is ridiculous. Crazy. Okay. The quarterback I'm referring to. Yeah, somebody owes somebody and he says,

since this your guy, I'll give him the money. He gets it to you. Yeah. Okay. So the Washington Wizards and Detroit Pistons are mathematically removed

from playoff contention. What do you guys think both teams need to look at improving for next season? Who's out? Wizards and Pistons. I'm surprised. I'm surprised, honestly,

that the Wizards are out. So, not the way they've been playing. If you would have said this last year that they was going to get, they was going to get, what's my guy name?

Man, you forgetting his name, that would play with Golden State, Jordan Poole. Jordan Poole. And he was going from Golden State to the Washington Wizards. And you would think, like, he's going to go crazy when he get there. And to see that now he's coming off the bench, it's just been a total, like, debacle in Washington. Now, I expected this from the Pistons.

I wasn't expecting it as much from Washington because they do have a few pieces. They should be decent. I'm not saying they should be, like, storming through the East, but they should be decent with a lot of the pieces that they have. Look, it's bum nigga day. Bum nigga day. Bum nigga day.

I don't know. What the fuck? They been stinking it up all season. Like, just saying, eventually they was going to be eliminated from the playoffs. Of course they going to be eliminated. These niggas, they had no spurt the whole season. It wasn't like, oh, look, niggas was offering niggas

food to win three games. Was that Detroit? Yeah, Wingstop. Was that Toronto or something like that? Detroit, right? Yeah. When they almost won, niggas was like, yeah, they messed the wings up. Yeah. The whole point is they're offering niggas food

for victories like what are we doing here secondly joe and pool you're talking about you don't record your practices start recording them sis we need to see what the fuck are you what you're doing you're talking about i don't everything don't need to be on tiktok yes it do for you nigga it should need to be recorded because we have no idea what you're doing. You obviously not even, when I say, and listen, I'm not big on having to look presentable.

As long as you come to ball, I don't give a fuck what you look like. You come to ball. But he looking like, he looking like. Yeah, he looking stressed. You looking like pokey.

He looking like. Because when you was a gold and shade, when you was a gold and shade, your shit was clean. It looking like pokey. He looking like. Because when you was a go to shake. When you was a go to shake, your shit was clean. It was clean, yeah. Shit was nice. Now it look like you just let yourself go poor. It's like, yo, no haircut, lamb chops, sideburns, pork chop joints. Yo, my nigga, start caring about yourself before anything else.

And then it'll translate to the team. But the way the season's been going, look, we knew they was going to be eliminated from the playoffs. Just, you know, we didn't know it was going to be 20 games left in the season until they was eliminated. Yeah, I thought Jordan Poole was going to go. Jordan Poole, if you're watching this, we're concerned, for real. I thought you was going to go to the Wizards and have, like, the Jordan,

I meant the James Harden first year in Houston. You're supposed to go there and be averaging 40 lead in the league right now and scoring. So I just want to give you that information so you can reset your thinking to where you need to be. Because going there, getting dirty, becoming everybody else. That's not what you were supposed to go there and do you're supposed to tell them this is how I won a championship in Golden State and begin

because you and your boy there y'all both got championship experience so y'all should both be able to take something from that those championship runs and communicate that to the rest of the guys in dc yeah listen um i was gonna say that too we we definitely give uh jordan pool a lot of

flack some time on the show but cal kuzma is there too you know I'm saying like yo someone just got to go to Kyle Kuzma and that and he's doing he's averaging 25.5 points I mean that's you know average NBA player which what can you do but uh as a team it's just y'all aren't getting it together for y'all to be eliminated with 20 games left in the season it's's kind of crazy, but I don't want to keep pushing on Jordan Poole and Kyle Kuzma is there too. You know, whose team is it? Who's going to step up? Who's going to hold other people accountable?

Lastly, I'll say is I'm sitting here thinking about it, and, you know, I'm thinking about this. The reason I'm taking me a little second because I'm thinking about it while we're discussing. And it's like, damn, Jordan Poole got put in a raw deal, man. Pause. Why you say that? Because he was starving in Golden State.

He was thriving, bro. You know what I'm saying? He helped him win the championship. So you're blaming Golden State. That's what I was going to do, too. I was waiting for you to finish. I'm blaming them niggas it's like bro

I'm blaming whoever let that tape out cause that shit might not have been that bad if that tape didn't circulate

and cross the internet and everybody seen it it might have been able to been tucked and been fixed and I'm not saying they would have because you know

once it gets to that point I'm not fucking with you no more ever anyway. What if John Poole put the tape out to try to get rid of Draymond hypothetically? Not mad at that scenario,

but to be embarrassed like that, that's on you. Yeah, you ain't put that tape out. Yeah, that's on you if you want to put that tape out. You're a different type of nigga. So I just really feel bad now thinking about it, but as a professional, you gotta

be ready for all scenarios, and I'm not saying feel bad for them as a professional, because you're still getting paid, still got a job, but just that situation, I think, whether they liked each other or not, I'm talking about Steph, Clay, Poole, Draymond, whoever else,

they all knew how to play together and won a championship together. So I'm more mad about that situation. Yeah, I definitely feel bad about the situation because I feel like Jordan Poole gets treated like the X because it's like he was on a high, then, like you said, the tape release, and now everybody just kind of gave him the cold shoulder. But if we see him playing better then maybe but if you think about it they need him

as well it's not like they're balling without him they're actually losing games as well and yeah you think about clay thompson right now we wouldn't have this clay issue if jordan pool was there he would be on a bench. Yeah, listen, it's times where I turn the game on and I'm watching Golden State and I say,

it get to the end of the first quarter, second quarter, and they make substitutions. I'm like, oh shit, Chris Paul played them niggas. I mean, forget it.

I'm like, yo, shit, I forgot this nigga even played them. Is Wiggins playing? Wiggins is out indefinitely. That's who I'm blaming. I think Wiggins is out indefinitely. That's who I'm blaming. I think Wiggins split the tape out. I don't know for sure.

Allegedly, he would benefit from the tape. That's his man. I doubt that. His man. It's the nigga in the camera room who probably went and got some extra bread from TMZ because they pay for footage like that. And that's who let the tape out. They probably got $50,000, $60,000 for that. So I don't think Wiggins would need it.

And secondly, Wiggins and Poole was in the same younger age group but not originally with the original Golden State crew. They was like, them two niggas was cool. So Wiggins don't got his man there pause no more. Thanks.

Okay, we're going to go to break. And when we return, we will discuss Skip Bayless's next move and more free agency moves. Don't go anywhere. She called us thinking about toxic. Four years of counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe

She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening in me won't fall Dealing with this thing called trust But she really thinking about wanting me free me won't fall oh oh dealing with this thing called trust but she really thinking about it she wanna be free why am I in this woman's way she wanna be free

hell I don't wanna see her walk away I wish somebody told me the rules disagreements let her win then it's cool even when I'm right to say Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, Denver will play Miami. Underdog fantasy has Jokic at eight and a half assists. Do you have them higher or lower?

Mace? Eight assists. Eight and a half. Jokic? Jokic, yeah. Lower. Mace? 8 assists 8.5 Yoga? Yoga Yeah Lower Okay Cam since

I can't even tell who's not playing Cam 8.5 assists What do you got? I'm going higher Okay

Jimmy Butler's at 21.5 points Do you have him higher or lower Cam? Higher Higher Okay And then Bam's at 10.5 rebounds. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? Higher. Higher. Okay. And then Bam's at 10 and a half rebounds.

Oh, yeah. This is the rematch. Everybody's higher. Even Joker higher. This is the rematch. Niggas got to get busy. I'm going to go higher, too, for bear. Bet.

Okay. Download the Underdog Fantasy app, and you can make your picks, too. So, sources are saying that Paul Pierce is likely joining undisputed with skip bayless in a regular role how do you guys think their dynamic will be when you say regaining um rejoining no likely joining oh likely joining all right you know um that's that's interesting but i think it'll work i think it'll definitely work shout out to paul pierce it would it would be great for paul pierce actually because paul pierce will be needed to be exactly who he is which is a good which is a great thing um skip this is this is the last of the Mohegans.

I think if he lose Paul Pierce, there's nothing else he'll be able to do, actually. But I think it's a great move. I think I was trying to think who else would work. Killer, would you work with Skip? He can't work for us. Hey, I like that. Skip, listen to this. Skip, if all goes wrong, you got a spot right here.

Not stat spot. You know, Paul, we'll slide over, you know, put another mic up there and let Skip be there. I mean, I can see it. there and let Skip be there. I mean, I can see it. Because if this Paul Pierce thing doesn't work, it'll be it is what it is. So I'm

rooting for him. Look, I wonder what Kevin, more importantly, I wonder what Kevin Garnett got to say. Kevin like, you bitch ass nigga. Fucking leaving us what we doing to go work for that white man. This is worse than Ray Allen.

Yeah, I know Kevin Garnett. Yeah, but Kevin Garnett, this is worse than Ray Allen. Bitch ass nigga going to go work with Skip Killer. I can say that if he talking to me. Not saying he has to talk to me because niggas will start that up. No, you know how KG talk like this? Bitch ass nigga. Motherfucker going to work for Skip.

After we build shit, Skip want to steal this nigga that come work for us. I ain't even fucking with that nigga. That's how Kevin Gardner handled it. Look, Skip, I don't know if Skip or Patrick Beverly been reaching more this whole season. I have no idea which one of them been reaching. But at least with Skip, you know

it's coming. He does it for that. It was kind of crazy. At least with Skip, you know it's coming. It's wild. You overrided it. Wow. Wow.

I see what you said. Now I think on Charles Barkley time. What happened was I was going to ignore it, but I seen how my peripheral stat look at me after you said that. And I was like, stat really? I seen it on the side.

So it's like, yo. You instigating on the low? I definitely do. You can tell by my faces. You supporting it? That was crazy. But let's think about it. This year, so far, I don't know how they do their seasons.

Let's see it, the undisputed guests and who they hire. They started with Keyshawn, Michael Irvin, Richard Sherman. You had Bubba Dub on there a time or two. Yeah. Lil Wayne on Fridays. Now, you're going to Paul Pierce. You're supposed to bring in that girl, that black girl. She left ESPN because she wasn't getting paid enough.

She did football. She was nice. I liked her, too. I can't remember her name. But she used to work at ESPN. He's supposed to bring in for football. I don't know if he ever did. you know how it is, Murder Man? Listen,

he trying to stir the pot, man. He can't, you know, you got to realize Skip found lightning in a bottle twice with Stephen A. Smith and Shannon Sharp. And the new cast that he has is not matching the energy of the old. You know, Stephen A. Smith came in when they started years ago. He was loud, articulate.

He knew what he was talking about. He had a little bit of personality. A lot of people forget how Shannon started on Disputed. He came in smoking weed, smoking black and mouse, wearing goat mask on his face for LeBron James, jerseys, drinking Hennessy in the morning. You know, he was on nigga, nigga, nigga time. With a do-rag.

Yeah, with a do-rag on. Niggas forget that because he's not elevated the way he's not doing that shit no more. But at the end of the day, Skip was called more nigga shit.

More nigga. More nigga. Black in my house. More nigga. Give me more nigga. More black in my house. Give me more nigga. Pause.

You know what I'm saying? So, it's going to be hard for somebody, for Skip, to try and match Shannon or Stephen A's personality. And I'm not saying that he ain't got people up there that know what they're talking about,

but it's a difference between knowing what you're talking about, having personality, and putting those two together. It's not going to be easy. That's what I was thinking about Paul Pierce. He'll do the black mouths and all that, the drinking. Yeah, Paul will come out with some bitches. Yeah. You just got to let him do it, Skip.

Pause. You got to let him come in there with whoever he got fired with. He got fired from ESPN because he had the strippers. No, that's what I'm saying. You let him come in with the same group. Yeah, but see the thing. Go crazy. Yeah, I like that. What I'm saying is when Skip do an interview, right?

If you talk to whoever, you think like, yo, what's the most nigga shit you think you could bring to the table? Cause Shannon had black in my house and we had... we Yeah what you got How niggerific can you be You ain't got no moves

What can we do with this I want you on the show, but what niggerific thing can you do? I wonder how that goes. Yo, you smoke Newport? He said, Lil Wayne rap. What do you have? What's your thing? Well, you know, I had the strippers that got fired with the strippers.

You can find them hoes? Where them hoes at? Bring them in. Let me see the hoes. That's how you go viral, Skip. The invoice is coming if you use it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

We want to see Paul Pierce win, you know? Nah, definitely. And Paul is our guy, Paul. I wish Paul would have came and visited us, had a conference with us. Because when Paul was up here, Paul was very entertaining, man. Yeah. He was very entertaining. Yo, Paul, I wish I knew you was out there, you know,

willing to take a job because no disrespect. We got to talk, man. We got to talk, man. Definitely. I agree with that. Okay. Bears cornerback Jalen Johnson started his press conference by saying he saw a therapist for sexual addiction last season. He was basically trying to leave a message on vulnerability, saying that you guys can open up about things like this

But how do you guys feel about the way that he opened his presser? Could you say it one more time? Yeah, so he started his press conference coming up on the podium when they were asking him about his season and stuff Saying that he saw a therapist for sexual addiction last season So he wanted to basically open up about his vulnerability What are we talking about? I'm sorry because I was getting texts while we were talking Jalen Johnson I'm sorry about that No was getting texts while we were talking. Jalen Johnson. I'm sorry about that.

No, all good. I apologize, yeah. All good. What does it mean to be a sex addict? That's all you think about all day. No, the reason why I'm asking

because some people may have the thoughts, some people may do the action. Probably both for him. So I wanted to make sure I knew what I was talking about before I share it. You want me to go first?

Yeah. Jay, were you talking about Jayden Johnson from Houston? No, from the Bears. Oh, okay. From the Bears. All right. Let me check. Murda, if you don't mind, you can go first.

Let me look at this nigga's paws for two seconds, and I'll give you all I need to see is the picture. I'll tell you exactly. He said his family helped him out to reaching this point. And it's okay to go through stuff. But I don't know

why I mention this in the in a press conference. Like, if you're talking to some people, let's say you was with a men's group and you wanted to help that men, those men. I could see that being a conversation, but I don't think everything is for everybody. There are certain things you should only share your. Share your injuries with people that can help you heal.

Share your injuries with people that can help you heal. I don't think you share your injuries with people that can't help you heal. Because all this is going to do is land in the hands of people like us, joking and playing around. And I'm really trying to take the high road today. You know, but when I think of it, I have some things I want to say. Killer, it's on you. I'm not going to do that today.

I'm going to take the high road. That's a good answer, Ray. I'm not being lured into that. That's a good corporate answer. You always have two. He's on corporate all day. Yeah, corporate and then his real answer. But that was a good corporate answer. We on bum nigga day.

You know what I'm saying? Listen, what I take from this is this. I don't know because I ain't been keeping up with the biz neither. Them bum ass niggas too. This sound like you had a bad season and you blaming it on sex. I don't know this to be a fact. I don't know how true it is.

I don't know. This sound like, you know, I was bugging. I got a problem. The problem starts with me admitting that I have a problem. Look,

you can be a sex addict and take care of what you need to take care of. You know, look, if you like sex, but you still, the problem, I don't know the direct diagnosis of sex addict. That's why I was asking that. Right, that was a great question too. Because the thing about it is,

if you do what you got to do in life and just want to go home, have sex with your wife, your girlfriend, whoever, but you still take care of business, that's fine. It's a problem when it's hindering business or hindering what you do daily to survive. A lot of people got a lot of habits.

You sit there and play video games all day. People sit there 18, 19 hours a day and play video games after they get home from work, but their bills are paid. Yeah. It isn't saying anything that he did anything malicious. It wasn't saying that he harassed any women. He's not saying that any sexual assault, anything of that nature.

You like having sex. The question is, how good did he play this year? Because if he didn't play good this wouldn't be anything to talk about. Because if you kill because let me tell you something Murdoch

just give me an example. Yeah. If it's basketball right? Yeah. And you averaging you averaging 35 points. 35 points.

14 rebounds and 9 assists and you say I'm a sex addict. Don't. Keep going, nigga. Keep, nigga, sex addict away, nigga. Because if you average 34 points,

nine rebounds, eight assists, and you a sex addict, we don't want you to stop. I think you only bring that up when shit ain't going right. That's my opinion. Just to give more context. So he actually did have a pretty good season,

but he felt like he was putting on a front for not what was really going on in his life. So he basically said throughout this week, I was preparing myself mentally because people are talking about contracts because he just signed a new contract. But he wasn't worried about that. He was worried about trying to get himself right because for him, it was bigger than the contracts.

So it's like, everybody's like, oh, you signed a new deal. What can we look forward to? And he's just like, yo, I was going through therapy this whole entire season. I guess that was the first thing

that he wanted to share that was on his mind. Nah, I see what's going on. He got a bitch he trying to cover up for that's why i got a problem you want to get ahead of it you know i've been going through things yeah i've been going through things y'all pray for me yeah that's one of the things because you know when you're younger and i and even you know i'll tell you because my man Suge Suge or whatever you know he is shorty and even me when I was younger when you don't want to lose your joint you be like

yeah I'll go to therapy if I need to go to therapy I've been bugging let's go to therapy you need to admit it you need to admit it you a problem. Shook said he went in therapy and flipped out on everybody. Talking about everybody going to keep saying I'm bugging out of here. So, yeah, I don't know this to be a fact. It's all speculation,

but it is kind of strange you just do a new contract and bust out with that. It definitely was the timing, but also, I always just have a little bit of a different opinion. I can respect him for being vulnerable because I think a lot of dudes have a sex addiction.

So the fact that he can come and say that and be honest about it. Kirk Franklin said he addicted to porn. No, I know, but. There's mad people who come out. Who say they addicted to stuff. But him just being comfortable to share that. You know what? Salute to him.

You got to let this pause have some air because if the next couple of weeks something come out like he has a girl pregnant or something like that, then it was cap. You was just getting ahead of it. Also, it's not beautiful. You, you, you was just getting ahead of it. Also, it's not beautiful.

If you're serious about therapy, then you should tell us what church you go to and all of that. Cause that goes along with that. I'm sure he'll share more things, but I just, I'm just giving him his props because I, to say that at the beginning of a press conference is, is wild.

But the fact that he shared it and felt comfortable and wanted people to know, clearly that's important to him. So I don't know what relationship he's made with himself. No, because I never wanted to seem like a man can't be vulnerable with things. I don't know about

the whole world, but he can definitely be vulnerable about things that are bothering him. My mom over here, I'm a sex addict. She just say, you nasty ass nigga. The fuck is wrong with you? You mean you're a sex addict? What did you say?

We didn't grow up like that, Stan. You crying. You go over there, I'm going to give you something to cry about. You keep it up. Like you said, you something to cry about. You keep it up. You're embarrassing this family. You go on TV and tell people you a sex addict. I don't know what's wrong with them.

Oh, my goodness. Oh, man. The vulnerability, though. Yeah, vulnerability. That vulnerability so i'm saying like that's what i said i don't know to that extent but i'm not mad if that's what he wanted to say that's what he wanted to say so do you think women are sex addicts do you think a woman make a lot of ready for a female basketball player to come out and just be like hey i didn't have a good year because i'm i was a sex addict i don't I don't think it's about telling us as the people. I just think that's

the relationship with himself. No, I'm saying, are you ready for that? Yeah, I think a lot of people in the sports industry got a lot of things they need to work on. So if you had a problem,

you'd go in front of the people you come up in. I wouldn't because that's not me. But if that makes him feel comfortable, do what you got to do that makes you comfortable with yourself. That's not what I would do, but if that works for him, that works for him. No, I'm saying

if you had an addiction like that, you would feel comfortable going in front of everybody? I wouldn't. Oh, okay. I'm just making sure. Chris Rock admitted it. So he's addicted to porn. It's niggas who come out and say this shit. This ain't like no new shit.

It's like, to me, Chris Rock at the same time was about to go through a divorce too. To me, this is like Mase said. This is getting there. Yeah, it's when niggas say it. That's what make it deceitful because say it before. Like, yo, you know what? I just figured out something last night. I'm an addict.

That's different than you get caught and then you in front of everybody tell them my name is George. Yeah. Hey, George. Yeah. And I'm an addict.

Okay, so Bengals franchise George. Yeah. And I'm in the attic. Okay. So, Bengals franchise bribery receiver T. Higgins has requested a trade per sources. Are you guys concerned

for the Bengals among all the other moves that have happened during free agency? I don't know, homie, like that. Yeah, man. I don't know a lot.

What you doing today This is what's going on To somebody else This has them shaking in their boots He ain't Jamal chasing none of them niggas He one of them niggas He ain't rocking like chasing none of them niggas I don't know.

Man, Murda, you've been real corporate today. Maybe you should just handle this thing just corporately. I don't know who the fuck we talking about here. And listen, no disrespect. You know, Cincinnati, I love y'all niggas. But Joe Burrows keep getting hurt, and it's hard to keep up with the rest of the niggas. So there's no disrespect

towards the city of Cincinnati or the Bengals or anybody in Ohio. But it's kind of when Joe Burrows gets out the loop. Us as football fans, at least me, I have a hundred other things to do

and sports is definitely a priority. But I'm not going to keep up with the Wizards and Detroit. No, I'm going to check in with the Wizards and Detroit. No, I'm going to check in from time to time and make sure they still losing and make sure I'm not bugging them with what I'm seeing, but when Joe Burrows keeps going out

with injuries, it's like, yo, we know that y'all not going to get anywhere without them, not saying I wish that y'all didn't, but we just know the truth. So when Joe Burrows is out for the season, we stop keeping up and no disrespect nobody else. It's just, it is what it is. No pun intended.

Yeah. I'm not talking about this. Sounds like. It sounds like y'all trying to take my expert status by having me. I don't, I don't really do this. I don't do like that. Players like that. Yeah, man. I got to agree with Murda. I'm not doing it't really do this. I don't do like that. Players like that. Yeah, man.

I got to give you a murder. I'm not doing it. Yeah, yeah. I'm out. What you got to say about it? Matter of fact, this is your topic. What you got to say? Yeah.

I mean, Jamar Chase is obviously the clear-cut first pick, but I just think it's... He's the second wide out. I just think it's weird for's the second wide out. I just think it's weird for him wanting to request a trade. I don't know if that necessarily makes sense for the Bengals,

but, like, the Bengals, I just feel like everybody else has made really good moves. They definitely need to step up. That's what I would say. But we're going to see how it translates.

What I would say is this real quick is maybe that's where homie need to go. Justin Fields. Yeah. Because as much as I love Joe Burrows and I try to put him against Patrick Mahomes when they, even though he does have a better record, he's not durable, man. And it's year after year after year, he gets hurt. He's a sensation when he is playing, but he's not durable man and it's year after year after year he gets hurt he's a sensation when

he is playing but he's not durable he does not have the ability for the availability and every year has been proven every year even the year they went to Super Bowl he was hurt for a couple of games he has not played a full season yet so I think maybe Justin Fields maybe need to look into being a backup with Cincinnati because it's probably a 70% chance that you may play. And start some games. Yeah. With some players around you. Right. Okay.

And Patrick Mahomes is reconstructing his contract with the Chiefs so he can allow 21 million in cap space for the Chiefs. This is the second time he's reconstructed his deal in the past six months. Do you guys think he's making a good decision by doing that? I think he is, you know, title town in the house. And that's what it takes to be a champion. He wants to go back and win again. So he's, you know, making moves to make sure that that money is available. So maybe we

get Tariq Hill back, you know. Tariq Hill, if you're watching this, you know, new start. We're going to let water be under the bridge. Come back to Kansas City. We got the money. I wouldn't I wouldn't

keep reconstruction. I did it once. Yeah, somebody else go. Every month. Yeah,

I like that too. I ain't gonna keep reconstruction. It's your goal. Listen. I ain't gonna keep being a bigger person.

Yeah, you see what I'm doing out here, yo. Yeah. It ain't like I'm just... Look, how many times y'all put this together? What I really, really, really believe, in my opinion,

is that it's a salary cap, and they can spend only a certain amount of money on players, so on and so forth, that when you let that $26 million go, figure out where that's coming from from somewhere else. That's what I believe. Yeah, that's exactly what he's doing.

We're going to free it up for the public. Yeah, but you reroute that. Yeah. You know I need that $26. Run that up the sliver. I don't give it from concessions or wherever it got to go. No, it could come from

the Kansas City Royal Bank of America, nigga. Just get that 26. It could come in 17 duffel bags. Yeah. Get that money back over here. Because I really believe that they have the money, but you don't want to take the hit with the NFL because you can only spend about X amount of dollars.

That money is still sitting there somewhere. 26 million is somewhere. Only reason I would do this if I knew the 26 million was coming back on some shiesty shit. And I don't want to, I just used the word shiesty, but they got ways to get it in there.

They may funnel it through the Kansas City Royals. Who knows? I don't give a fuck how you do it. Get my 26 million back because I'm not going to keep reconstructing shit to put shit together when I'm doing everything. Not only that, how do I get us

a Super Bowl? And you want me to reconstruct my contract. No, you want three Super Bowls. I'm not even talking about that. How do I get us a Super Bowl this year with the most drops in the NFL? With the most drops, I still got us the Super Bowl, my nigga. What are we doing

here? No, no, no, no, no. Somebody else go, like you said, I like that. It ain't my turn. It ain't my turn. I did it last time. I think that is a great point. Am I the only one want this team to win? Is somebody else need to go? Travis Kelsey?

It's only me who want us to win come on bro okay well that is all the time we have for today thanks for watching and as always it is what it is

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